1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty arm Strong. 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: And Getty and he arms Strong and Yetty hurts intercepted 4 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: in and out the balls out. It hurts hims up 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: for the ball in his hands, he fumbles. 6 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: Chargers ball. Troy did hands up on the ball. 7 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: And what a massive a point of a game. Last 8 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: night of Monday Night football, Chargers beat Eagles in overtime 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: interception with the goal line to end the game. 10 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: Good. 11 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 3: I hate the Eagles. 12 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember. Has there been a time when 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: that both teams that played in the Super Bowl last 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 2: year didn't make the playoffs next year? But we might 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: have that this year. Chiefs and Eagles might not make the. 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: Point, Josh, I don't know. Yeah, interesting question. 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of interesting questions, there's the whole who's going to 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: be in the Super Bowl? Then there's can the Western 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: world absorb enormous immigration from the Islamic world. That's a 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: really interesting question. I will tell you this a personal statement. 21 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: The word xenophobe is a tool to get people to 22 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: shut up. 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: It's a bullying tool. I'm not a xenophobe. 24 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a fobe about virtually anything. I Joe have 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: been studying political systems and how they've grown change since 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: I was a wee lad. It's my major in college, 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: and then I've been reading about it, and Jack and 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: I have been talking about it for decades now. And 29 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: as you know, honestly everybody looks at a diploma. If 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: you're a curious person, you learn thirty times more after 31 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: college than you learned in college. But anyway, so I 32 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: look at this is like a historian looking at the present. 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: I'm just interested in the phenomenon. 34 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: I also happen to be a big fan of Western civilization. 35 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean, like, really, I must stand for Western civilization 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: to use the terminology of fairly recently the whole Enlightenment thing, 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: individual liberty, free speech. 38 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could call me a big fan. 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: Anyway, Jack and I both became aware of Tom Holland. 40 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: You read his big book Dominion a few years ago. 41 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: Right, I have not read Dominion, but I've watched him 42 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: speak a number of times, like for an hour and 43 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: a half about it, and I know the full story. 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: Definitely, yes, a fascinating topic. The headline might be the 45 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: entire Western world, the modern Western world is a Christian world, 46 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: even if you're an atheist or a Jew, or to 47 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: a lesser extent, a Muslim, which we're about to talk about, 48 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: because so much of the way we see the world 49 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: and religion and religion's role in the world is based 50 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: on Christianity. 51 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, the way Christianity says you ought to relate to 52 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: the world. 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 2: This historian Tom Holland, he's not a Christian, by the way, 54 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: and he makes it very clear in his book and 55 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: in all his speeches. But he wrote the book. He 56 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: was always a fan of the Greeks and the Romans 57 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 2: and thought they were responsible for all of Western civilization. 58 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: By writing this book, he came to believe that Christianity 59 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: is the dominant philosophy on planet Earth and the biggest 60 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: thing that has happened in humankind, and that we don't 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: recognize it in the same way that a fish doesn't 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: know he's wet. We're we're just in it constantly. The 63 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: views of about the way we approach each other in 64 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: life and everything like that, that is Christianity, whether whether 65 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: you're religious or not. He's from Great Britain and he 66 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: says we're not a religious country at all in the 67 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: United States has headed that direction. But we still swim 68 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: in this moral universe that was developed by Christianity. 69 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Right, So let's unleash mister Holland for about a minute, 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: then discuss, particularly as it pertains to Islam and massive 71 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: immigration into the West from Islamic places. 72 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: The clibate Michael Tom Harland. 73 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 4: We are living through a great choke point in the 74 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: history of this country. What you saw in twenty twenty 75 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 4: and its aftermath was a deeply Christian movement. The institutional 76 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: character of Christianity is often rejected as part of the problem, 77 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: a part of what has to be rejected, even though 78 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: it is that institutional structure that has provided people with 79 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: the ideological framework that enables them to judge it as evil. Essentially, 80 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: what Christianity has that Islam does not is a concept 81 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 4: of the secular. Islam is a totalizing way of leading 82 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: your life. I think Islam is uniquely indigestible for a 83 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: a secular mindset, and people they won't admit that. 84 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: And we'll get to that indigestible part in a minute. 85 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: But to explain his premise a little further, I love 86 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: that sentence about people have no idea that it's the 87 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: Christian philosophy and the governments that grew out of that 88 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: philosophy that gives them the tools to criticize Christianity. That 89 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: is practically unknown in world history to be able to 90 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: aggressively criticize. 91 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: The dominant religion or one of the dominant religions. 92 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: But Christianity says, no, we're going to persuade you through 93 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: love and maybe logic and appeal to your conscience and 94 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But with a few exceptions in unfortunate 95 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: parts of Christian history, we're not going to force it 96 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: on you, and you get to criticize it. 97 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: And I would argue, in those. 98 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: Periods where people were heard or killed for arguing against Christianity, 99 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: that was a terrible, terrible chapter in mankind. But anyway, certainly, 100 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: in the modern Christian world, we can all embrace our 101 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: Enlightenment values, free speech and individual liberty, blah blah blah. Anyway, 102 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: did you want to add anything to that before we 103 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: get into Islam stuff or so. 104 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: And the other super intriguing thing. 105 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: He points out that a lot of you know already 106 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: is there is no notion of the secular in Islam. 107 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: You're not people with religion, You're a people. Muslims are 108 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: a people. Religion is not something that is an accessory 109 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: to who you are. 110 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: It is who you are. 111 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: And he wrote in a way that was really interesting 112 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: about Jewish people used to be much more like that too. 113 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: French Revolution. 114 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: They said, you can practice your religion, but you're a 115 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: Frenchman first, you can't see yourself as a separate tribe anymore. 116 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. But Islam is a totalizing religion. It's everything. 117 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: And he points out that Mohammed was the seal of 118 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: the prophets, the last one. There will be no other, 119 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: and if Islam fails, humankind is eternally damned, and so 120 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: the spread of Islam across the world is the only 121 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: hope of humanity to true believers. Now, granted, there are 122 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: sects of Islam that are much more Yeah, it's a 123 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: personal faith for me, it's in my heart. But no, 124 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't go with all of the literal stuff from 125 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: the Koran, just like there is in Christianity. But the 126 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: problem is there are plenty of people who see it 127 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: in a more fundamentalist way, and they're willing to kill 128 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: you for it. And he also pointed out, and I 129 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: found this fascinating, that the proof of the truth of 130 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: Islam for centuries was its victories. It conquered virtually every 131 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: land it set its mind to. To lose in war, 132 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: in politics is to risk the eternal fate of mankind. 133 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: That's part of the reason Israel being in that land 134 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: is so humiliating, horrifying to Muslims. 135 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: It's refuting the truth. 136 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: Of Islam as long as it stands, because the victories 137 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: show the truth up until a little history lesson Napoleon 138 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: invaded Egypt, and then there is a sect of Islam 139 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: that was more like, Okay, maybe we're not about conquering 140 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: the world, We're about getting right with God. And those 141 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: people I can deal with all the time. I don't 142 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: care if they live next door to me. But so 143 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: there's a real division there. And he also makes the 144 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: point that when Protestantism really exploded in the United States, 145 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: some of it went very and Jack, I know you 146 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: know a lot about this. Some of it went very 147 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: religion is a coat you put on and off, not 148 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: very hardcore and stuff. But other Protestants said, no, no, no, 149 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: that's exactly the wrong way to go we're gonna go fundamentalist, 150 00:08:54,760 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: complete fundamentalist, and Islam did the same, but with Islamic fundamentals. Fundamentalism, 151 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: the Quran sanctions a tremendous amount of bloodshed, as as 152 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: Holland put it, if you go fundamentalist. So, I mean, 153 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: there's more of it. I could go on. But oh, 154 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: it's part about it being uniquely indigestible for the West. 155 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: There's a somewhat arrogant assumption in the secular West that 156 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: we can absorb anything because and that's partly based on 157 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: assumptions that everyone thinks like us. But he points out 158 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: Islam is an ancient, complex civilization and was for a 159 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: long time, a really long time, more powerful than the West. 160 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: And they don't see any reason to be digested. They 161 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: just think they're a really site of probably terrible metaphor. 162 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: They're a great baseball team that's lost four in a 163 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: row today, really ought to be the champs. 164 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: It's a terrible metaphor given the stakes. Illustrative, But what 165 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: was your story that you had the other day about 166 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: in Germany there where they canceled some Christmas tradition that 167 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: they for hundreds of years. 168 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me, I'll hit that in just a second. 169 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: Two more real quick points. 170 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: They want Islam to be everywhere and everything, and the 171 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: more Muslims there are, the more those voices have weight 172 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: and will attempt to force adaptation of other people to 173 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: them anyway. 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That's a Council on American 205 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: Islamic Relations. Care's political arm is operated without legal authority 206 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: across the US. A watchdog report finds they are raised 207 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: and spending a tremendous amount of money to try to 208 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: islamize the United States of America, a lot of it illegal. 209 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: They don't have the right licenses and whatever. So anyway, 210 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: but to the Christmas markets thing, Judy and I were 211 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: in oh Glaston Gugen for part of Christmas, but no, 212 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: we were in Austria and Broadislava and a bunch of places. 213 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: We were actually in I think it was the Broadoslava, Slovakia. 214 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: On Christmas Day, it was snowing like crazy. It was 215 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: absolutely charming and magical. But they have these Christmas markets 216 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: that are like in the town square. They have rows 217 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: of booths with gifts and food and drink and everything, 218 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: and there's this smell of food and steam in the 219 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: air and everybody's feeling super festive. It's like a Christmas 220 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: festival every single day and it's just it's just charming. 221 00:12:54,640 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: Well in Germany, and this has been going on for centuries, 222 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. They became an official German tradition, these 223 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: christ kindlemarkets in fourteen thirty four. 224 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: They run through the advent season. 225 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: A bunch of German cities have had to cancel their 226 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: Christmas markets because of the threat of Islamic terrorism. They 227 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: can't cover the security costs concrete barriers to stop vehicle attacks, 228 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: surveillance systems, armed guards stationed throughout the market, and they 229 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: just don't have the money for the counter terrorism and 230 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: so they are shutting down the Christmas markets. 231 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: So for six hundred years you could have the Christmas markets, 232 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: but now because of so much immigration, you can't. 233 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: Berlin twenty sixteen, a terrorist and attractor trailer drove through 234 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: the bright shite plots Christmas market, killed twelve, injured fifty six. 235 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: I remember that. 236 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen and s and six Syrian nationals, including asylum 237 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: seekers who'd been in contact with ISIS, arrested on suspicion 238 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: of planning attack on the town's Christmas market with bombs 239 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: and farms twenty twenty three and Leverkusen authorities uncovered a 240 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: plot by two radicalized teenagers. 241 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: Magdeburg twenty twenty four. 242 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: A Saudi doctor plot is BMW through a Christmas market 243 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: at thirty miles per hour, leaving six dead three hundred 244 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: and thirty eight wounded. His trial began last month. It 245 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: is not some sort of fantasy that there's a threat. 246 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: It's real and they're having to shut down their tradition. 247 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: You sound like an islamophobe, Okay? Any thoughts on any 248 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: of this? Text line four one, five, two nine five KFTC. 249 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 5: Another moment with one of these humanoid robots. This time 250 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 5: kicking its CEO and a simulated face off in China, 251 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 5: the robot landing quite a forceful strike, appearing to knock 252 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 5: the CEO of Engine AI right to the ground. The 253 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 5: CEO covered and padded gear for the battle, appearing to 254 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 5: be unharmed. The company says the moment of man versus 255 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 5: robot was about shutting down claims that other videos of 256 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 5: this same humanoid robot and his capabilities were just CGI. 257 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so the CEO got it's ass kicked by the 258 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: robot to prove that something. 259 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: Oh all, you're watching the video, I am. 260 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: Did you take a pretty good smacking? 261 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 262 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: Well, and the swiftness with which this thing moves is unbelievable. 263 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: I never thought about that. 264 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh boy, Chinese killer robots. 265 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: Good morning, uh chet gpt open Aye made a giant 266 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: announcement yesterday that could have an effect on the world. 267 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that later, but first, Okay, do you 268 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: have a preference and eye color for your baby yet 269 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: to be born? No, don't care. No, I didn't care either, 270 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: But my son yesterday, I have two blue eyed kids, 271 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: or I did have two blue eyed kids, my thirteen 272 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: year old said to me. He said, my eyes aren't 273 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: blue anymore. 274 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: I said, what, Ah, He said, they're a different color now. 275 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: I guess I hadn't looked deeply into his eyes for 276 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: quite a while, because he walked up to me and 277 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: he said, I think they're hazel now, and I looked them. 278 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: You're right, they aren't blue anymore. And I didn't really 279 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: knew what hazel meant as a word, so I had 280 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: to google it and I got the eye chart and 281 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: everything like that, and damn right, his eyes are no 282 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: longer blue. They are hazel. 283 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: I had amazing eyes. Until I was a teenager. They 284 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: were hazel. They were green and brown, and then in 285 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: adolescence they just went all brown brown, which is mad. 286 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: I could add a completely different line. 287 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: Brown is the most popular eye color in the world 288 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: at eighty percent four out of five. 289 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: Life of the hazel eyed I could have lived it. 290 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: Four out of five people on planet Earth have brown eyes, 291 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: is very common. The next most popular is blue, which 292 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: I have eight to ten percent, then hazel, then only 293 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: five percent of people have hazel eyes, and then the 294 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: word the rarest of eyes outside of like you're some 295 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: sort of freak born with purple eyes or two different 296 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: colored eyes. 297 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: Or whatever, like for normal Liz Taylor lavender eyes. 298 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: Two percent of the world's population is green eyes, So 299 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: green hazel and then. 300 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: Blue are blue and green? What about bloodshot? I got those? 301 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: Is one of your eyes blue and the other one's 302 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: green or they're blue green both? 303 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 5: They start they start blue on the outside and they're 304 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 5: green closer to the pupil. 305 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so pay extra for that. I didn't know, 306 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: big price. We wondered if we missed something, so we 307 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: went back and looked at pictures of him on my 308 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: phone before he was little. I know he had bright 309 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: blue eyes when he was little. Now they're hazel, which. 310 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry they're blue and at this point blue 311 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: and what whatever? 312 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: Hazel is like a light brown. Yeah, it's kind of. 313 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: Brown green green brown, I would say, Okay, interesting. 314 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know your eyes changed color. Can it 315 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 2: happen again later in life or is it pretty much 316 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: in your teenager years and then you're done. 317 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: I'm guessing what you just said there, but I don't know. 318 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: I would like to deep black eyes. 319 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: I want red ones, red eyes, red pupils, bright red. 320 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 3: Hello your soul, I mean you're justed in an offer. 321 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: The administration keeps going back and forth and whether or 322 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: not they're going to release this dang video of the 323 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: second strike on the boat. You think the controversy is 324 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: about over anyway? 325 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, I did till I heard. 326 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 6: That, Oh, okay Armstrong and Geeddy, will you release video 327 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 6: of that strike so that the American people can see 328 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 6: for themselves? 329 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what they have, but whatever they have, 330 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: we certainly released, no problem. 331 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: Okay. That was last week to an ABC reporter. Then 332 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: a different ABC reporter asked him yesterday about the release 333 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: in the second video tape, mister President. 334 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 6: You said you would have no problem with releasing the 335 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 6: full video of that strike on September second, off the 336 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 6: coast of Venezuela. 337 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: Secretary Hegsett now. 338 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: Says you said that. I didn't say that. This is 339 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: ABC fankness. 340 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: You said that you. 341 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 3: Would have no problem releasing the full bait. Okay, Well, 342 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: Secretary hegstat whatever. 343 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: Hess, what does he do? 344 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: Is okay? 345 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 7: With? 346 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: I feel like I did hear him say that last 347 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: week that he would release the date, but then he 348 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: told her, who's ah, I never said that your fake 349 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: news anyway. So a different reporter at a different moment. 350 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: Releasing the full video, didn't I just tell you that 351 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: you said that. 352 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 2: It was secretary obnoxious reporter in the whole place. 353 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: Let me just tell you are an obnoxious, a terrible 354 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: actually a terrible reporter. 355 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: And it's always the same thing with you. 356 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: I told you, whatever Pete Hegseth wants to do, is. 357 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: Okay with me? 358 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: Okay, he goes on, whatever he Seth wants to do, 359 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 2: is okay with you? 360 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 3: He now says it's under review. 361 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: Are you ordering the secretary to release. 362 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 8: That full video? 363 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: Whatever? 364 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: He just okay with me? 365 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: So they are were That's where we are, uh where 366 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: it's you're obnoxious, that's where we are. 367 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: Well guilty, I'm wow. Okay, So why aren't they releasing it? 368 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think it is a bad 369 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 2: look to not release it. 370 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if it works strategy and tactic stuff. 371 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what that would be. I don't believe 372 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: that for a second. 373 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: Do you. 374 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: No, No, No, I don't. 375 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: I just think they think probably it'll be troubling to 376 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: people if they see it. 377 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 378 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: Although see that's the problem with not releasing it. People 379 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: don't cover up crimes they didn't do usually. 380 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: Well. 381 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: Senator Cotton coming out and saying, I'll tell you what 382 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 2: I saw. I saw a couple of people who are 383 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: trying to, you know, flip the board over and get 384 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: it going again and reattack the United States or whatever 385 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: that is that sender Cotton said. And if it can 386 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: be explained as that, go ahead and release it and 387 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: then let you know. And my guess would be and 388 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: this is really a revelation that most people who are 389 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: okay with Trump are going to see it one way, 390 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: and most people who hate Trump are going to see 391 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 2: it the other way, no matter what it looks like. 392 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 393 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: See, that's the funny thing for me is that I 394 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: totally bought what Tom Cotton said. I thought that was 395 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: the most likely thing to begin with. Now it's come 396 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: out that the everybody on that boat was part of 397 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: a list of approved targets, and so hag Seth might 398 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: approve targets to kill sogs. 399 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: And you can argue about whether that's appropriate or not. 400 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of a different topic, but so heg Seth 401 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: might have given something like a kill them all order, 402 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: not in that many words. But I just don't I 403 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: don't get why they're not releasing it. Well, and here's 404 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: the problem. They have to be utterly explicit about why 405 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: they're hesitating to release it. 406 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: Don't let the rumor mill take it up. Don't don't 407 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 3: let that. 408 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: Vacuum be created, because something will fill it. Well, you 409 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: got people like Senator Tom Cotton, Republican military guy, saying 410 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: it's it looks exactly like I would have ordered that strike. 411 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: It's perfectly fine in keeping with the United States interest. 412 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: Then you got Senator Tim Kaine, who was Hillary's running 413 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: mate Clip fifty seven, and Michael. 414 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 8: I think what the American public is likely to see 415 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 8: based on what's been described as to struggling individuals clinging 416 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 8: to Flatsham after a shipwreck, without a radio, without ways 417 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 8: to either move or communicate, without weapons, clearly not posing 418 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 8: a danger to the United States, who are just slaughtered 419 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 8: in open water. 420 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: How do you sess their lack of radio capability on 421 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: one of those videos? 422 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 3: Tim Y'll lion line. 423 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 2: First of all, I assumed he was talking from first 424 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: hand knowledge having watched the video. He said, I think 425 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 2: what people would see based on what was described, So 426 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: he's just going on what the Washington Posts said. 427 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: And then ladies and gentlemen, we give you it ought 428 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: to be Dana, not Dana Bash. And Senator Tammy Duckworth. 429 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: What is a duckworth? Not much judging by this audio tape. 430 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 7: Senator, have you seen the video? I have seen the 431 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 7: video and it is deeply disturbing. I am mostly concerned 432 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 7: with the fact that we are putting our American servicemen 433 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 7: and women in jeopardy here. We're putting them in jeopardy 434 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 7: in case they ever get shot down. We're putting them 435 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 7: in legal jeopardy. They could be brought up in international 436 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 7: criminal courts. And so what we're doing here is taking 437 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 7: those professionals, or utmost professionals and putting them into harm's way. 438 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 7: And that's what bothers me the most about what Pete 439 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 7: hex said is doing. He is the least qualified secrety 440 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 7: defense in our nation's history, and he's very cavalier about 441 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 7: doing things. The fact of the matter is only Congress 442 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 7: can decide that we can go to war, and there 443 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 7: was no such declaration made. 444 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 5: I just want to make sure that I get this accurate. 445 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: You have seen the classified video of this particular strike, 446 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: the first strike and then the double tap as it's known. 447 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 7: No, I've just seen what's been available in the media. 448 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 7: I've read the food report that I've not seen the 449 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 7: actual video. What. 450 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: Yes, I've seen the video. She's seen the same video 451 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: we all saw. What Yeah? 452 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: No, everybody public's endevor everybody overplays their hand all the time, 453 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: I wish and the lies they lie. 454 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: Oh it's so annoying. Why wouldn't you answer that question? 455 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't seen the video. 456 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: Our politics is just sang it stupid And so she 457 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 3: wrote then. 458 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: On why Pete Haggzeth is the least qualified in this 459 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: and that and blah blah blah, and then finally, Dana, 460 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: to her credit, nails are done. I just want to 461 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: make get this straight. Have you seen the video? No, 462 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, but from what I understand. 463 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 3: Oh shut up? 464 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 1: Why are we even goes with the only Congress can 465 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: declare war? I mean, okay, I get your point constitutionally speaking, 466 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: but where are you been the last seventy years? 467 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well that's really maddening. M Well, let's let's hear 468 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: from Pete himself, secretary of Hegxeth, explaining the reattack of 469 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: this was something at the Reagan Library over the weekend fifty. 470 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 9: I was told, hey, there had to be a reattack 471 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 9: because there were a couple folks that could still be 472 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 9: in the fight access to radios, there was a link 473 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 9: up point of another potential boat. 474 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 3: From what I understood then and what I understand now, 475 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 3: I fully support that strike. I would have made the 476 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: same call myself. 477 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: So his story has not been consistent, which is not 478 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: a good look of the Yeah, I was there, I 479 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: ordered it to the I didn't you know, I'm a 480 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: busy man. I got other things do. I can't hang 481 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 2: around for two hours to wait to see how these 482 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: things turn out. But he followed out my order to 483 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: kind of in between that answer seemed to be and 484 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: then but then you've got the testimony last week that look, 485 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: there was a jag there where there was an army 486 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: lawyer there, military lawyer there to look it over and declaring, yeah, 487 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: this is a valid target, let's go ahead and hit it, 488 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: and then did so. It's not like going off half 489 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: cocked wild West. Well right, yeah, let's just argue about 490 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: whether the jag lawyers were. 491 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: Right or not. But yeah, this as a scale handles go. 492 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: I just. 493 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: But they're making it worse. 494 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. Yeah. 495 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is I remember in Iraq and Afghanistan, 496 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: they're they're the internet's full of the videos of US 497 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: taking out various Al Qaeda guys and Taliban guys or 498 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: ISIS guys whatever, And in uh, some of the some 499 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: of the videos, you see the helicopter gunship chasing after 500 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: people and mowing them down with machine guns. And you know, 501 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: some of those people might have just been like the housekeeper, 502 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: the you know, the guy was there to fix the 503 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: plumbing or something like that. I don't know, but I 504 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: think we all acknowledged, all right, you know it's it's 505 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: it's a war situation. 506 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: You know, you're in the wrong place, wrong time. 507 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: Sorry, Zuela shouldn't have knocked down those towers, That's what 508 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: I said. 509 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 3: Oh boy, that was good. 510 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: So isn't our entire argument about the appropriateness of using 511 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: military force against cartel targets? And never mind the particulars 512 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: of one incident. I don't know, but again, listen to me. 513 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: You're an idiot. Somebody punched me. I'll punch myself in 514 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: the face. This is all about scoring political points and 515 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: making hay and getting contributions. The truth doesn't even matter. 516 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: The truth isn't even invited to the party. 517 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: What am I thinking? 518 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: Tammy Duckworth doesn't give a crap about the truth, So 519 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: put the duck. 520 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 2: Back and then you got the Nobel Prize winner. Then 521 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 2: the actual Nobel Peace Prize winner, not the not the 522 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 2: FIFA Soccer Piece Prize winner, but the Nobel Peace Prize winner. 523 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: That chick from Venezuela, who's all for all this. 524 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: Which is interesting because selling narcotics is how the dictatorship 525 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: sustains itself. 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None of the people believe 551 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: and who nobody believes it? 552 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: Who's it for? 553 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: Just reminding them of what they have to say if 554 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: they don't want to visit from the secret police. 555 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: Quickly, off the top of your head, where does this go? 556 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: Oh uh? 557 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: We got like a quarter of our naval power on 558 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: the biggest navy on the planet right there off the 559 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: coast of Venezuela. Where's this going? 560 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm completely befuddled, but you're demanding that I make a 561 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: guess status quo for a long time, resulting in fewer 562 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: drug shipments to the US and no major military actions, and. 563 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: Then it just kind of fizzles out. We just start 564 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: to pull resources away that one, and we don't force 565 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: regime change. I'm you're surprised if we don't force regime 566 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: change somehow. 567 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure our spooks are working around the clock 568 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: behind the scenes right now trying to figure out what 569 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: the post Maduro reality would be. 570 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: Poisonous beard, exploding, cigar go. 571 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: Caspell again again. The snuffing them isn't. 572 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: The hard part. That's the easy part. What comes next 573 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: is the hard part. No, they're not going to poison 574 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: his beard. I think they'll drop a bomb on his head. 575 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: That hole. You break it, you own it. Whatever we 576 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: broke it, we're out. We're out the door. 577 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 3: Oh that always works out well. 578 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: Oh boy, Isis has established a major new foothold in Venezuela. 579 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 3: Oops, boy, oops, is right. 580 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: More of the way stay here like Dodgers just picked 581 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: up one of the best pictures in baseball for sixty 582 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: nine oh one affair. 583 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: What unbelievable coming up? Major cheese news. The world of 584 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: cheese shaken by today's headlines. 585 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: Stayle speaking speaking of media. 586 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: This is so interesting from our friends at the Media 587 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: Research Center, their NewsBusters. Let's see, they're updating a study 588 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: from a couple of days ago. ABC and NBC News 589 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: have spent a combined seventeen minutes and sixteen seconds on 590 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: their flagship news shows morning and evening on the Somali 591 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: the giant Somali Minneapolis ripoff. 592 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 3: Okay, very very little time. 593 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: Of that little time, only twenty one percent was spent 594 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: on the rampant welfare fraud scheme. The other eighty percent 595 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: was criticizing President Trump's comments and Republicans trying to make 596 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: hay with it. Yeah, so if four to one Republicans 597 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: pounce versus the actual crime. 598 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: The billion dollar theft of taxpayer money, is not very interesting. 599 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: The calling Somali's bad people, now that's a story. 600 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: Now. 601 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: If you combine ABC, CBS, and NBC, about thirty one 602 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: percent explained the year's long scheme and the other what 603 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: is that to the other two thirds, a little more 604 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 1: than two thirds was about Republicans pounce And they mentioned 605 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: CBS did better than the other networks because Margaret Brennan 606 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: had ilhan Omar on and they talked about it, but 607 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: that was pretty soft BALI. 608 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 3: But anyway, that's switch. I guess it's not a shock 609 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: or anything. 610 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: But you know, one of the other studies they've done recently, 611 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: the Media Research Centers less than twenty five percent, it 612 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: was this, twenty four percent of Americans know that Charlie 613 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: Kirk's killer was a left wing crazy person, less than 614 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: twenty five percent. I think it's probably mostly just a 615 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: crazy person in love with a crazy transgender person. 616 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know how I would have answered that question. 617 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: I don't I don't have in my mind that he's 618 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: a left wing crazy person either. I just have him 619 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: as a crazy person. 620 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 621 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: Well, it is unquestionably left wing, super into trans rights 622 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: and LGBTQ and hated Charlie Kirk and blah blah blah. 623 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: But as phenomenon phenomena go, I think it's it's mostly 624 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: just the crazy person who wants to hurt people, who 625 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: latches onto a cause kind of at the last minute. 626 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 3: Anyway, it doesn't matter. 627 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: But the fact that only twenty four percent knew the 628 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: murders politics when it was clearly a political killing is 629 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: kind of troubling. 630 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: But in major cheese news. 631 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: Jack, an American cheddarist, stunned global judges, beating out well 632 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: known European cheeses and sparking a world ride reaction. 633 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: I had some goat cheese the other the night. Might 634 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: be the best cheese I ever had, goat cheese with crackers. 635 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: My son really like, Man, this is some damn good cheese. 636 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: We got to start buying this more often. Cheese made 637 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: in northern California. By the way, your whole mapple Wine 638 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: Valley area also very good for cheese. 639 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely true, Kate, Katie, what is that look on 640 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: your face? 641 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: There? At all the grocery stores sell it pretty much. 642 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: The blueberry goat cheese. Oh, very goat cheese. 643 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 3: Yes, plays game changer. Oh, I tell you what I know. 644 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: Jack doesn't swig the crazy water the firewater like I do. 645 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: But man with a nice red wine, good cheese, just 646 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: crazy pruth that God loves us. 647 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 3: And wants us to be happy anyway. 648 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: Humble New York made Cheddar surprised international judges at one 649 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: of the world's most prestigious cheese competitions, ranking in the 650 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: top ten among a crowded field of European winners. 651 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: This is interesting to me, do Americans not usually farewell 652 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: in the cheese competitions? 653 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 3: Correct? 654 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's mostly the to me, M not to 655 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: me because it's so regulated. It's like you've talked about well, 656 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: right when your buddy brought back the Italian salami. 657 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm aware of that, but I would have thought 658 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 2: we would have done well. Maybe they have to follow 659 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: the American loss. 660 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 661 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: When I was in Italy, I was amazed at how 662 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 2: good their Salamian cheese was because they don't have all 663 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 2: the ridiculous, stupid rules that we have in the United States. 664 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 2: We're missing out on so much flavor because of our 665 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: ridiculous FDA. 666 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: You know, I've been to the Masters now, So next 667 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: stop the World Cheese Awards in burn in Switzerland. I 668 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: love that a cave I actually would if they gave 669 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: out samples. A cave age cheddar sold by Murray's Cheese 670 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: in New York City, took fifth place outranking dozens of 671 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: long revered European producers earned additional trophies from various categories. 672 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: Cave age. 673 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: Do you say congratulations to Murray's Cheese? The stocking all 674 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: cheese is produced, nobody cares look it up? 675 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 3: If you want to know. Let's see. 676 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, a Swiss cheese but not Swiss cheese, La Griere 677 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: aop vander Fultigen Special aged eighteen months was crowned the 678 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: World Champion cheese. 679 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: I wonder what that would cost. Hunk of that pretty expensive, probably. 680 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 3: I don't know. 681 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: It was praised for its rich flavor, delicate crunch crystals, 682 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: and deep savory aroma. 683 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 2: You probably can't get it in the United States because 684 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: that's too dangerous. So there could be all kinds of 685 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: bacteria or something like that could have gotten in there. 686 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 3: Probably, so there were so dumb. 687 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: Why are we like this? Our safety ism is nuts? 688 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: The World Cheese Championships or whatever I called it, uh, 689 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: forty six countries sent more than five thousand, two hundred entries. 690 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of money to be made. 691 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: And if you get a good ribbon, oh yes, like 692 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: price and cheese. Yeah, just like wine. 693 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the experts in their yellow aprons eyeball in 694 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: the cheese. 695 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: Do they eat it just plain or do they put 696 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 2: it on a cracker or a sandwich or anything. 697 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: A nice glass of cabaonet sauvignon. I don't actually know 698 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: they don't explain the mechanics of it. They look at it, 699 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: they sniff it, they grab a little bite of it. Clearly, well, 700 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: I do love cheese. 701 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 3: That's that's the. 702 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: Point of this section, Joe. Like, we do twenty hours 703 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: of this sort of content every single week, and if 704 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: you need any more of it, I would like to 705 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: catch it on your own time. 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