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Speaker 1: Because a team like Washington that only allows like eighty

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Speaker 1: great challenge because Washington is playing very well. Um, but

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Speaker 1: it's not good enough. So we've got to continue to

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Speaker 1: And that's all we really care about. He thought he

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Speaker 1: That's just the way it goes. But the thing is

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Speaker 1: what you've done a pretty good job of doing so far.

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Speaker 1: But what's the challenge of trying to find creative ways

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Speaker 1: try to press about how much he's going to get it.

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Speaker 1: The more he touches, I think it helps us all.

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Speaker 1: is not just about him. He hasn't had a carey

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Speaker 1: gonna give a shout out to a p He's a tremendous,

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Speaker 1: Anything that he's doing on the field is not going

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Speaker 1: So again, I'm gonna give him all the credits that

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Speaker 1: good things are gonna happen. Against the Saints, Wayne Goldman

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Speaker 1: losing some confidence in him since that light Well, I

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Speaker 1: But I think Wayne Gohlman has done a really good job.

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Speaker 1: I feel good about him him. I'd like to give

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Speaker 1: Eli Penny, what have you seen from him in terms

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Speaker 1: have you seen from him in a confidence whise putting

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Speaker 1: we'll mix him into the game plan as well. You

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Speaker 1: see fit. Uh, he has showed a lot of good things.

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Speaker 1: He's done a good job again in all three phases,

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Speaker 1: and he needs to continue to improve as our whole

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Speaker 1: He's going to improve as a player. But I've I've

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