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Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Scott Suh, I'm Evan, Novie Williams and Michael

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Speaker 1: Barr and this is the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast

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Speaker 1: where you and I and Evan whose voice is not

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Speaker 1: good man. Too much partying bar? How old you know?

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Speaker 1: When he was twenty three going back to reunions and

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Speaker 1: partying for three or four days, no problem. He would

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Speaker 1: show up here vim vigor ready to roll. Look at

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Speaker 1: this now, he's a shell of himself. I will say

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Speaker 1: the tail end on this one is significantly and the

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Speaker 1: shell of himself the last couple of days. You know

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Speaker 1: what it is. I mean he's got that beautiful wavy hair,

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Speaker 1: no gray in it. You're expecting more, right, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean you look at me. Man, It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Santa Claus. It was cold in the office yesterday. You

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Speaker 1: know the air condition. He's pumping and then comes over

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Speaker 1: and what were you saying? Freezing? It wasn't that. But

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Speaker 1: he's I'm like, it's not that cold. I was comfortable.

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Speaker 1: He's drinking tea. He's got his team off life out here.

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Speaker 1: I guess speaking of old men. How about that for

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Speaker 1: a segue, starting with the French open, Why do you

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Speaker 1: want to knock him man, It's like it's got a

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Speaker 1: great matchup. So what we get is well and we

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Speaker 1: got well, Friday is going to be very good matchup.

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Speaker 1: We only care about Rafa and Roger. Come on, come on,

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Speaker 1: I mean that Roger hasn't played Clay in three years

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Speaker 1: I'm here to do to play Rafa, his good friend,

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Speaker 1: his rival. So these are two of the all time greats.

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Speaker 1: I know Number of the Week is later uh in

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Speaker 1: ready for Roger. Yeah, I'm taking over for even since

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Speaker 1: he can't speak Roger versus Rafah, give me the record.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you they've met thirty eight times, has

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Speaker 1: got twenty two. Good for that was good, pretty good,

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Speaker 1: But like I said, so that that's good. Nadal eleven

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Speaker 1: French Open Championships, five of a no against Roger at

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Speaker 1: Rollin Gados. By the way, you guys know, we should

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Speaker 1: we educate the audience for those who don't know. Do

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Speaker 1: you know why it's called Rollan Gados because you know what?

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Speaker 1: You know what that is? Was the name? It is

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Speaker 1: a name, but you know who roll this goes back

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Speaker 1: to history though. Yeah, it's a French aviator. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: if you didn't know whether you go exactly so it's good.

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Speaker 1: It's jeopardy James. He came in, man, that guy lost

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Speaker 1: yeah on clay semifinal Roger Rafa dog getting better than that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty much a dream for for organizers, for you know,

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Speaker 1: the folks that are broadcasting around the world. Um, kind

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Speaker 1: of like we talked about engulfed, kind of amazing that

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Speaker 1: it's amazing semifinal of a Rand Slam and it's these

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Speaker 1: two again. I love it, man, It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: old man like me love this. But you would think,

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Speaker 1: for the good of the sport, you would think at

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Speaker 1: some point there'd be somebody else who would consistently knock

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Speaker 1: of doing it. We had Stan Moreenka, Federer's doubles partner,

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Speaker 1: think that the danger for men's tennis is kind of

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Speaker 1: what they're banning people taking picture? What are they banning?

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. They're banning if you buy a ticket

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Speaker 1: to an event for the Tokyo Olympics and you take video,

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Speaker 1: not still shots. You can take your still shots, but

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Speaker 1: if you take video of on field or anything around

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Speaker 1: you can argue that if you can't post it on

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Speaker 1: it really happen? If it doesn't show up on your Insta,

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Speaker 1: choosing too harsh interpretation of intellectual property rights over the

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Speaker 1: we want your friends seeing that you're at your courtside

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Speaker 1: this is so stupid. I'm sorry I use the word stupid,

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Speaker 1: imagine that all these social media networks have better things

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Speaker 1: to worry about than filling the I O C, SEAS

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Speaker 1: so I would not I wouldn't freak out too much

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Speaker 1: But certainly know the Tokyo and the IOC taking a

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Speaker 1: other other sports organizers. I'd like to see the athletes

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Speaker 1: something that I do like. And I know other people

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Speaker 1: are like, you know, I'm a heathen, but we all

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Speaker 1: knew that I love betting. And guess what another state

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Speaker 1: Draft Kings or fandel that's a tough one Illinois, as

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Speaker 1: there's a workaround for them. But Illinois is the sixth

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Speaker 1: every sport. Um, yeah, this is this is a big deal,

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