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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: You're not Derek, I can't be handy. Mike Marshall joined
Speaker 1: us for Disney. Derek is not available. He decided to
Speaker 1: leave on a very convenient just like get away from
Speaker 1: spring break. There's really only two weeks in the offseason
Speaker 1: where you like need to be around. You know, this
Speaker 1: is one of them. It's probably one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay. We're gonna make do without him. Amber Dave
Speaker 1: it might be better. Hey, that's possibility. I like that,
Speaker 1: jumps in his own chair and says, you know what,
Speaker 1: this could be better, And it could be. I mean,
Speaker 1: Derek's not that great. Let's go. You're always looking to
Speaker 1: upgrade your team in free agency, right, definitely, hundred sixty
Speaker 1: five day year process. Right. Maybe talent acquisition maybe maybe.
Speaker 1: Derek said, well, the Cowboys aren't going to do anything anyway,
Speaker 1: so maybe I'll leave. Well, he's not wrong to this point.
Speaker 1: So so far, Cowboys are a little or taking a
Speaker 1: slower approach. I guess. I actually that isn't really true.
Speaker 1: They really they haven't done anything, havn't agreed to anything yet.
Speaker 1: But I still think they're being somewhat active. They just
Speaker 1: haven't they haven't hit yet. They were interested in Sammy Watkins, right.
Speaker 1: I heard reports from our paper friends yea, that they
Speaker 1: were in on that, and then the money got kind
Speaker 1: of silly and they were like it were good smallis
Speaker 1: whenever it drops a little bit sixteen million for a
Speaker 1: guy with thirty nine Yeah, yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had to cut off. I mean I do.
Speaker 1: I do think they were in play there. I think
Speaker 1: they wanted around fifteen million per year, and I don't
Speaker 1: think the guarantee as high as what he got in
Speaker 1: Kansas City. And I mean, and that's might be what
Speaker 1: happens here with the Cowboys, is that. Yeah, we like
Speaker 1: him for this. They probably like Hitchens for six million
Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, and well, you know, it's funny and
Speaker 1: I get it. I completely get why a Cowboys fan
Speaker 1: would be frustrated with the way the Cowboys do free agency.
Speaker 1: But I mean I can't say you weren't prepared for it,
Speaker 1: assuming you pay attention. I mean, this is the this
Speaker 1: is the third or fourth year in a row that
Speaker 1: this has been their strategy. And we've been talking about
Speaker 1: how this was going to be their strategy since you know,
Speaker 1: we started doing offseason shows in mid January. So I
Speaker 1: mean you might not like it, but you shouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised by what's going on. You can tell me a
Speaker 1: year leading up, and even when that week hits, I'm
Speaker 1: still like, my friends are having a party and I
Speaker 1: wasn't invited. So that's it. You're right. I have to
Speaker 1: walk by the bar that they're having the party yet
Speaker 1: every hour or so and see, Oh, Jaguar is getting better.
Speaker 1: Packers pretty much? Yeah, I hear you. I think the
Speaker 1: one question is are they getting better? Are they really
Speaker 1: getting better? Go back and look at last year, go
Speaker 1: back look the year before. These these guys that sign
Speaker 1: that sound good, but do they really help them? I
Speaker 1: mean I don't know. I mean some of them do.
Speaker 1: I mean no, look at the Eagles. Congratulations the Eagles. Yes,
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying there's a lot of Jags too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's like, I mean, it does work if you're smart
Speaker 1: about it, it does work. But like who helped them?
Speaker 1: Campbell for the Jacks, Campbell, Bury, Church Aju. Who else
Speaker 1: did they bring in? Nobody in the offensive side? Right?
Speaker 1: Not really? I mean those those three guys really were
Speaker 1: I mean Campbell helped them. Campbell for sure, I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't watch him play enough. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he played well, had five picks, but I think lockdown
Speaker 1: the passing game, go look at go look at around
Speaker 1: the league though, all these all these guys, I mean,
Speaker 1: I would say, a year from now, are you gonna
Speaker 1: be like, did Paul Richardson help the Redskins? No? And
Speaker 1: that's the vast majority of the stuff that has happened
Speaker 1: this week is pretty stupid in my opinion. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: there's maybe four deals out of the like sixty that
Speaker 1: have happened where I'm just like, that looks like a good,
Speaker 1: cost effective decision. The vast majority of it not so much.
Speaker 1: And that's you know, I mean, one of the first
Speaker 1: things that happened yesterday morning, like six o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchens signed for fifty million dollars which I think
Speaker 1: the world of Anthony Hitchins, and I know the Cowboys
Speaker 1: do too, But I don't know fifty million dollars I need.
Speaker 1: I need more than what he provides for fifty million dollars. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about other players that are still on this
Speaker 1: team for the Cowboys, but let's let's go with Hitchens
Speaker 1: right now. Hitchens signs or is expected to sign today
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. Amber, you can't sign everybody. We've talked
Speaker 1: about that last week. Where do you where do you
Speaker 1: think this is as far as Hitchens leaving? You concerned
Speaker 1: with that one or there? Well, I mean, we all
Speaker 1: need we expect that this was going to happen, that
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have Hitchens back on the team. And obviously
Speaker 1: he's a big guy on the Cowboy's defense, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna they already need a linebacker. Now they're in more
Speaker 1: of a need to have another linebacker. So, yes, that's
Speaker 1: tough to see happen. But at the same time, you know,
Speaker 1: we listen to fans complain about what is happening in
Speaker 1: free agency, the Cowboys not making moves. We seem like
Speaker 1: you mentioned the guys that we're free agent last year
Speaker 1: or were contracted as free agents, were a failure to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys didn't work out. But I have a question
Speaker 1: for you guys if you were the Cowboys, I mean,
Speaker 1: would you be handling free agency the same way that
Speaker 1: they're doing it right now? I don't know if how
Speaker 1: else would you manage this. They're the only team in
Speaker 1: the league that signed a player for that much money.
Speaker 1: I mean, they haven't done anything, but who else has
Speaker 1: actually signed a player for seventeen million per season? And
Speaker 1: the fact that people say, well that doesn't really count,
Speaker 1: it technically counts onto the cap. That's a big deal
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have done. And whether it's sexy or not
Speaker 1: because no one expected him to leave or that doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: Like that's something that they had to do. They did,
Speaker 1: and now fans are like, well, they're not doing anything.
Speaker 1: They had to do that move. I think I completely
Speaker 1: agree with you, And I said last night, you know,
Speaker 1: if they hadn't put that tag onto Marcus Lawrence, Adam
Speaker 1: Schefter and Ian Rappaport would have tweeted out at five
Speaker 1: to thirty yesterday morning that he had agreed to a
Speaker 1: handshake deal with whoever sixty million and guarantees and what
Speaker 1: I get the counterpoints of that, which is that you're
Speaker 1: not technically making your team better. He was already he
Speaker 1: was already on this team that finished nine and seven.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's I mean, fourteen and a half sacks.
Speaker 1: You can't let that walk out the door, and you
Speaker 1: can't just discount their willingness to pay him that money
Speaker 1: to keep him on the team. Having said that, I
Speaker 1: do get the counter argument to answer your question, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't hate what they've done over the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, which is be really quiet. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they had much of a choice. Their cap sheet
Speaker 1: was so ugly for such a long time, after all
Speaker 1: the restructures and all pushing the money forward. I don't
Speaker 1: hate what they've done. I understand it. I do hate
Speaker 1: closing one of the spouts of talent acquisition because you
Speaker 1: have the draft, you have free agency, right, you have
Speaker 1: which stout afted guys. Oh you're talking about just not
Speaker 1: free agency, Yeah, just not acquiring talent through that avenue.
Speaker 1: And I hate that, but I understand it. I understand
Speaker 1: what they've had to do when the restructures and bad
Speaker 1: money getting off of it, and now I felt like
Speaker 1: this year might be the year when you're clear of
Speaker 1: some of that bad money and you have a chance
Speaker 1: to make some kind of splash to be I mean again,
Speaker 1: I got horseshoes only counting horse yet almost only counts
Speaker 1: and horse shoes and handgarnade. Sorry it's early man pass
Speaker 1: rush and that too. I always said that pass rush
Speaker 1: also counts. They were willing to make a splash with
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins apparently. I mean, if they were willing to
Speaker 1: pay him eight figures, that would have been it would
Speaker 1: have been amazing, just amazingly surprising. It got out of hand,
Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't fault them for not wanting to
Speaker 1: pay that guy sixteen million dollars, but that that's the
Speaker 1: open market, and that's what happens when you've got a
Speaker 1: billion dollars in combining. So the will is there, right,
Speaker 1: let's I mean acquire somebody in which well, now that
Speaker 1: shifts us to the elephant in the room as well,
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. They wanted Sammy Watkins, not for that price
Speaker 1: he got, but pretty close. Now you look at other
Speaker 1: receivers that are signing Alan Robinson, what fourteen million a year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: fourteen average three for forty two and Paul Richardson ten
Speaker 1: eight eight year five for forty What has that guy? Don? Wait?
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that how many catches he's had last year?
Speaker 1: A year? I thought you were talking about how many
Speaker 1: catches here? I mean seriously though, And so I said
Speaker 1: that yesterday. I was like, this guy's got half the
Speaker 1: career accomplishments of Terrence Williams and signed for more than
Speaker 1: double what Terrence got in the open market. And somebody said, well,
Speaker 1: he didn't have a chance in Seattle. They drafted him
Speaker 1: forty fifth overall have a chance. They drafted him in
Speaker 1: the top fifty. That that deal, maybe more than anything
Speaker 1: else that happened yesterday, really blew me away. So now
Speaker 1: let's let's get really fun here and try to jump
Speaker 1: into the shoes of Dez Bryant. Geordy gout Cut. Ah, yes,
Speaker 1: Seorty as well. Right, So you're Dez Bryant and you're
Speaker 1: making what the average of sixteen million a year, but
Speaker 1: I mean you're not making it now, but that's what
Speaker 1: your contract is. You're gonna take a pay cut. Well,
Speaker 1: I know it's a tough I mean, you meant to
Speaker 1: run in that room and say Hey, let's look at
Speaker 1: percentage of cap. Because the cap this year is one
Speaker 1: seventy seven. When you signed it was one forty. Right,
Speaker 1: that's what the front office is gonna say, And they're
Speaker 1: gonna go, Okay, well, you're actually eight percent of the cap.
Speaker 1: These guys are eight percent of the cap. I know
Speaker 1: the money's different, but whenever you're getting that check, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you walk into the booth and you're getting that check
Speaker 1: every week, and it looks different, it doesn't matter to you.
Speaker 1: But to Nick's point, I mean, in light of everything
Speaker 1: that happened yesterday, Dez's deal doesn't look that crazy anymore.
Speaker 1: What did Mike Evans get eighty something five for like
Speaker 1: eighty something like that? I don't have it off with
Speaker 1: the cap at one seventy seven and Mike Evans only
Speaker 1: getting five for eighty. I think i'd point to that deal.
Speaker 1: I'd go, are you as good as that guy right now? Well? No,
Speaker 1: I mean no, he's not. He's not as good as
Speaker 1: as Mike Evans is right now. But I think, what
Speaker 1: is he better than Alan Robinson? Yeah? I mean not
Speaker 1: about who's younger and has more upside? Like is he
Speaker 1: a better player? Is he a better player than Sammy Watkins.
Speaker 1: But those guys have question marks. Yeah, Sammy Watkins just
Speaker 1: lack of production overall. I thin injuries. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: had a dozen of them. It's it's fashion, I mean.
Speaker 1: But let's also throw this out. We've been told, everyone's
Speaker 1: kind of been reported that they wanted Sammy Watkins. They
Speaker 1: were gonna be prepared to do that deal for fifteen
Speaker 1: a year. You can't do that deal with Dez on
Speaker 1: the team. I don't think absolutely not. So that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean now that they're gonna cut him. You and I
Speaker 1: talked about this before the show. That doesn't mean Wells
Speaker 1: was going to get cut. He's definitely gonna get cut.
Speaker 1: Maybe they look at it now like we wanted him,
Speaker 1: Maybe we have another guy in mind. If that doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: then Dez still falls here and maybe maybe you know,
Speaker 1: they keep him. I think. I mean, okay, they took
Speaker 1: a swing for the fence on a guy. Des Brian
Speaker 1: would not be here if Sammy Watkins was. There's no way.
Speaker 1: So now I think it just depends on how they
Speaker 1: feel about how hard it is to live without Des
Speaker 1: because I mean, there's there's guys you can bring in
Speaker 1: to fill that role. I mean, Bryce Butler is one
Speaker 1: who's familiar with this team. I'm I don't have any
Speaker 1: off the top of my head, but I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: a handful of guys that fit that description from that
Speaker 1: are on the open market. Absolutely, Okay, there you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but that better next year if Jordy who
Speaker 1: Neilson's their number one? And that's my point is that's
Speaker 1: going to be up to them to look at those
Speaker 1: options and way um and say, are we better off
Speaker 1: just eating this des deal for another year, keeping them
Speaker 1: here and drafting a guy, or do we get better
Speaker 1: by bringing in somebody else for cheaper And I can't
Speaker 1: answer that question, And I think the only way we'll
Speaker 1: know is what they decide to do over the next
Speaker 1: few weeks. And the one thing I am I'm even
Speaker 1: more confident now than I ever was that they're going
Speaker 1: to spend a pretty valuable asset on a receiver in
Speaker 1: the draft. I just don't know if it's gonna be
Speaker 1: with Dez on the team or not. You know, throughout
Speaker 1: this whole process, I've been going back and forth where
Speaker 1: I see, no way does it's not gonna be here?
Speaker 1: And then I say, oh, you know what, this actually
Speaker 1: may seem very possible. Back and forth, back and forth.
Speaker 1: Des posted a picture on Instagram of him I saw
Speaker 1: you twittering about it, Dave, and it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: He It was basically a picture of him and a
Speaker 1: Starr emoji plus ada equals. He posts that in the
Speaker 1: middle of the opening day of free agency, and then
Speaker 1: he goes on Twitter and he's like, stopped reading into
Speaker 1: my exactly exactly, stop reading into I'm not gonna stop
Speaker 1: reading into your posts. Look at me, look at me.
Speaker 1: Don't pay attention to you have I don't even know
Speaker 1: if you know exactly. No, you're right, like, please pay
Speaker 1: attention to me, but don't read into what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like so, no, I'm not gonna not pay attention to
Speaker 1: what you say, Das. I'm sorry. I mean that picture
Speaker 1: made me go all the way back to okay, maybe
Speaker 1: he's staying, Like he's feeling confident that maybe he is staying,
Speaker 1: because why else would you post something like that at
Speaker 1: that time? I think I think I would want to
Speaker 1: get cut if I was this, you would want to
Speaker 1: get I don't disagree with me, because let's let's be honest.
Speaker 1: He's making so much a year, but he's not making
Speaker 1: that that money that he got and he's I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's all spent, but I mean, you could get cut,
Speaker 1: sign a monster deal with someone else, get that money
Speaker 1: tomorrow and pretty pretty much start over and you're gonna
Speaker 1: get more than what you're doing now. And they want
Speaker 1: him to take less. I think he's looking to get more.
Speaker 1: Ryan Grant got something like he got seven plus. I
Speaker 1: mean he was He's been the Redskins fifth receiver for
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Like he's I'm not saying he's
Speaker 1: a bad player, but like I was again floored when
Speaker 1: I saw that. If Ryan Grant can't get twenty six million,
Speaker 1: you know who makes seven plus for the Cowboys, Shaun Lee?
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Oh yeah. I mean well, for that matter,
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchens, right is now making quite a bit more
Speaker 1: than Shaun Lee is, which is I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's the nature of how many quarterbacks are pissed now.
Speaker 1: They're not pissed, but they're looking at it like seriously,
Speaker 1: a full guaranteed. I know we're bouncing around here, but
Speaker 1: that's what free agency is. We're bouncing around now. We're
Speaker 1: on to Kirk Cousins and are they Are they pissed
Speaker 1: or are they pumped? Because if if Kirk Cousins can
Speaker 1: demand that, then I think certainly be able. Didn't USh
Speaker 1: try to do that in his last contract, because I
Speaker 1: throw my pin at you, Dave Um Russell Wilson. I
Speaker 1: think he shaid Rush. I was like, no, Russia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush wants a guarantee that's in a couple of
Speaker 1: years when he's done leading the Cowboys. But I think
Speaker 1: we've been moving towards that for quarterbacks, and that might
Speaker 1: be the only position where it's this is the money,
Speaker 1: it's all guaranteed. If you want me to play here
Speaker 1: long term, I'm a top five quarterback or maybe Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins top ten, it's guaranteed. That's how the deal's working out.
Speaker 1: And I think we've been moving towards that, And I'm
Speaker 1: I wish all the money was guaranteed. I wish the
Speaker 1: numbers were what it was. You know, it's so funny
Speaker 1: Romo people that hated Romo. They had one argument and
Speaker 1: it was always playoffs. But you know, nobody cares about
Speaker 1: that anymore. Like that's not a big deal about playoffs.
Speaker 1: It's just so funny how he wasn't very good because
Speaker 1: he couldn't get his team over here. But now it's
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins, like you've won no playoff games, like
Speaker 1: caress guarantee every money. I mean, that might be the
Speaker 1: case right now. But the team they've got up there
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, right we'll find out this year. Well if
Speaker 1: I mean, if I think it's a bad move, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good move for Minnesota because
Speaker 1: they just showed that they can win with a rudypoot
Speaker 1: quarterback and they don't know. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: need to go twenty five million guaranteed. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if Cousins is really that good. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: never really liked it. We can't beat the Cowboys, so
Speaker 1: I don't know why he's that good. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: if they have the money, I guess that's that's fine.
Speaker 1: But they do have a great defense. If a good coach,
Speaker 1: really good coach, and they have a great home field advantage,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're in a good situation. I just don't
Speaker 1: know if they needed Kurt Cousins. I I don't know, Man,
Speaker 1: I guess if they got the money for it. I
Speaker 1: think you can win with an elite defense and adequate defense.
Speaker 1: But that's true, a lot more stuff has to go
Speaker 1: your way, like if you if you have a top
Speaker 1: tier quarterback, you're in every game. And I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's the best he's got right there. I
Speaker 1: think Kirk Cousins is really good and I We're gonna
Speaker 1: see how good he is, because that was my point.
Speaker 1: I mean, with every they they don't have a weakness
Speaker 1: that I can really think of, and they play in
Speaker 1: that ridiculous stadium, it should be good enough to get
Speaker 1: a couple home games. Like if they don't, if they
Speaker 1: aren't one of the top two or three teams in
Speaker 1: the league next year, then everybody's gonna go. And they
Speaker 1: get their first round running back back. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: They know they're they're loaded. It's unbelievable. I mean, I
Speaker 1: do think he's a better quarterback than case Keenum And yeah,
Speaker 1: that guy just continues to steal money to Ben Bradford,
Speaker 1: the best one hundred and thirty four million dollars career earning.
Speaker 1: That's my hero. Why didn't I play quarterback? He is
Speaker 1: to wrap put a bow on the Kirk Cousins thing.
Speaker 1: It's it's a move when you're one move away, but
Speaker 1: that one move away is your quarterback and you just
Speaker 1: invested so much money, like they're locked into this roster.
Speaker 1: If this roster does not get you NFC championship on
Speaker 1: the CUSP every single year, like you're getting fired in
Speaker 1: like two years, I would and will gonna draft Will Hernandez.
Speaker 1: They might you think you'll be there at thirty Maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's I mean, because that's the one
Speaker 1: position where you don't see a ton of great greatness
Speaker 1: coming out of that team. Why are we talking Vikings here?
Speaker 1: But whatever, it's totally possible. I don't know Kings, but
Speaker 1: I would argue signing Cousins gives you a chance to
Speaker 1: be competitive once you when you have to let your
Speaker 1: defenders walk because like Anthony Barr Kendricks to Neil Hunter,
Speaker 1: like all these guys, like they're not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to pay them all. That's the problem the Cowboys are doing.
Speaker 1: And it's not to switch to another team, but it's
Speaker 1: the exact problem Seattle went through. Like remember when Seattle
Speaker 1: was sitting here with this cheap quarterback, and they had
Speaker 1: all these great players. Then they signed Russell Wilson, which
Speaker 1: and then now that they're sitting there, everyone there, thin everywhere,
Speaker 1: but they have a quarterback who can keep them in
Speaker 1: any game. I mean that's kind of the it's just
Speaker 1: the way it goes. All Right, Well, you don't sign
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins for that money long term exactly. You find
Speaker 1: the next Anthony Hitchens exactly. And they, to be fair
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, they actually tried that. The next year.
Speaker 1: They drafted another fourth round linebacker from the Big Ten.
Speaker 1: That's very athletic, that can and he hasn't panned out.
Speaker 1: He hasn't developed yet. He has he makes headlines for
Speaker 1: the wrong reasons. So I got to work on that
Speaker 1: with Damian Wilson. But we talked about linebacker and how
Speaker 1: that was already a need. And actually we're gonna go
Speaker 1: to break, but we'll talk about linebacker when we come back.
Speaker 1: We're also going to let's talk about quarterback a little
Speaker 1: bit and how the quarterback kind of affects the Cowboys
Speaker 1: quarterback how to affects some of these other moves. Who
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Speaker 1: to the break, we are back in its free agency.
Speaker 1: There's so much happening with other teams, but three o'clock
Speaker 1: comes around maybe the Cowboys are going to jump into
Speaker 1: this thing a little bit more. We just talked in
Speaker 1: the first segment about they did have some interest with
Speaker 1: wide receiver Sammy Watkins, they have some interest with some
Speaker 1: other guys. I think they'll be proud of them if
Speaker 1: they make a big splash that no one knows about
Speaker 1: until it happens. That'd be fun. That would be no leaks,
Speaker 1: no agent, not gonna hold my breath. That would have
Speaker 1: been one. I mean there wasn't. Oh yeah, no, Sammy
Speaker 1: never well, the domino effect with that. We kind of
Speaker 1: heard some rumblings in the early part of the week
Speaker 1: that like, don't be surprised if they do something out
Speaker 1: of character. I would and I so I'm thinking, like, okay, like,
Speaker 1: but I would have never guessed Sammy Watkins. They can
Speaker 1: it's a weird one. All this can go away. And
Speaker 1: if you just make some trades with Seattle, see that's
Speaker 1: splashy going well, going back to Amber's question, that's the
Speaker 1: I don't care that they haven't done anything this week,
Speaker 1: but I can go back to last week, and you know,
Speaker 1: we talk about the Eagles. It's not really like they're
Speaker 1: out here signing all these gaudy free agents. It's just
Speaker 1: the type of move they make. I mean, last year
Speaker 1: they traded for Timmy Jernegan. Uh, they signed Alshon Jeffrey
Speaker 1: to a small deal. This year, you know, they traded
Speaker 1: Tory Smith for Brad Worley. They traded for Day Um
Speaker 1: not the Eagles. But there was nothing small about the
Speaker 1: Alshon Jeffrey deal. Was it like one year, nine ten
Speaker 1: million dollars. I mean, it wasn't paying Sammy Watkins fifteen. Um,
Speaker 1: they didn't. They did. People are so mad about that.
Speaker 1: He's like forty years old. Um, um, what you call it?
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett for a fifth round pick? You see, the
Speaker 1: Browns sent Danny Shelton and a fifth rounder to New
Speaker 1: England for a third rounder. That's the type of stuff
Speaker 1: that when I see it, I'm like, yeah, hey, do
Speaker 1: that maybe maybe you know, spend small resources to improve
Speaker 1: your team in a noticeable way. I mean, Danny Shelton's
Speaker 1: only a one technique. He's not gonna get six sacks
Speaker 1: for this team, but he would be a massive upgrade
Speaker 1: over the one techniques on this roster. And you have
Speaker 1: ten draft picks. I mean, that's that's the type of
Speaker 1: stuff that I see, and I think the cow Boys
Speaker 1: could and should be doing this type of stuff. They
Speaker 1: just don't want to do what you did last year.
Speaker 1: But hit on those guys, yeah, I mean hit on
Speaker 1: Nolan Carroll, hit on Stephen Pierre, say his name, Hi, Hi, Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: but you're gone here. Well he was already gone when
Speaker 1: you started working right anyway, I mean yeah, never met him.
Speaker 1: So it was a nice trifecta right there. We got
Speaker 1: three guys. One guy's gonna get a d UI before
Speaker 1: he plays at any game and not even gonna play
Speaker 1: at all, or he's gonna play like a game and
Speaker 1: a half and he's done. Another guy's just going to
Speaker 1: decide to retire like a couple of games in. And
Speaker 1: then another player, another players already got a two game
Speaker 1: suspension on that's hanging over him, and then he's gonna
Speaker 1: have some issues. And that's the strategy. The strategy really
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me. It got Byron Bell. He gotta be
Speaker 1: a lot better about finding guys that can actually contribute
Speaker 1: to Can I ask one question about Hitchins leaving before
Speaker 1: we move him. You're on the show. You don't have
Speaker 1: to ask if you're just making sure I'm the guest here,
Speaker 1: so sum but you said you might be better, and
Speaker 1: I thought you said so Hitchings is he's gone right,
Speaker 1: he's chief four for whatever it is, somewhere five for
Speaker 1: forty five, forty five damn okay. Um. Have they committed
Speaker 1: to taking a linebacker in the first two rounds? Now?
Speaker 1: Is that what they just did to themselves? I think
Speaker 1: first three for sure, top hundred picks. I think, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know unless I think. I mean, I talked
Speaker 1: to Steven Jones about this of the combine. We don't
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen with Kyle wilbur. I guess
Speaker 1: theoretically he could be back, but he played like nine
Speaker 1: percent of snaps on defense last year. So I think
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones he came, he said, we need two linebackers.
Speaker 1: We've got two that are out of contract. We're gonna
Speaker 1: need to I think it just seems really obvious to
Speaker 1: me that you sign a guy for cheap and free
Speaker 1: agency and think justin Durant think you know that type
Speaker 1: of thing, and then I think you've got a draft
Speaker 1: one in the first three rounds just because we saw
Speaker 1: what can happen when your linebackers aren't healthy last year.
Speaker 1: This week we did on the website We've You and
Speaker 1: I went on Tuesday and Brian and uh Rob picked
Speaker 1: four guys yesterday Dave, who are some of the players
Speaker 1: that you said, And we said, this was a wish list,
Speaker 1: this isn't but but we were pretty I mean, we
Speaker 1: weren't crazy about it. We were trying to be Three
Speaker 1: of my four are still available realistic. Feel good about that?
Speaker 1: Do you remember them? Because I don't really remember. I
Speaker 1: had Derek That's I mean, that would be a guy
Speaker 1: that I mean, it makes He's from Waco, he played
Speaker 1: at Texas, he's in the you know, he's winding his
Speaker 1: career down. The fact that he still can play as amazing.
Speaker 1: He's thirty five. Thirty five, Um, you know, four time
Speaker 1: All Pro. He's not he's not gonna play at an
Speaker 1: All Pro level, but he's good in coverage. He can
Speaker 1: play Will and Mike. He's a veteran guy. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine that he would be that expensive to bring in.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to try to ballpark it.
Speaker 1: But he's thirty five. The Cowboys have had success with
Speaker 1: that type of player in the last I would say
Speaker 1: ten years. A couple of times. I mean, Keith Brooking
Speaker 1: was on the downside of his but he still came
Speaker 1: came back, played well. Durant was one of them, not
Speaker 1: as old as as Derek Johnson is. But Zach Thomas
Speaker 1: came in for a year and did a pretty good
Speaker 1: job in the strategy that I have mapped out. I
Speaker 1: only need him for a year. Yeah, because because I'm drafting,
Speaker 1: let's just say Josie Jewel at pick fifty to be
Speaker 1: the Mico, the third linebacker of the future behind Jalen
Speaker 1: and Lee. But if Jalen Smith is sitting here in
Speaker 1: the linebacker room with Sean Lee and Derek Johnson, right,
Speaker 1: He's got to get better. He's got to get better
Speaker 1: up here. I mean every linebacker would, Damian Wilson would
Speaker 1: and should. So I think that that would help your room.
Speaker 1: And I need him ideally, I only need him to
Speaker 1: play like twenty to thirty percent of the snaps. I mean, ideally,
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith is ready to be what they hope he can,
Speaker 1: but you can't bank on that going into the season
Speaker 1: without a backup plan. Question about those linebackers is how
Speaker 1: many linebackers can you have that don't contribute a lot
Speaker 1: on special teams. Yeah, it's true, you know. And that's
Speaker 1: one question you would have with Derek Johnson, like we're
Speaker 1: bringing this guy in, he's going to play a certain
Speaker 1: amount on defense, but then he's not going to really
Speaker 1: play special teams. I say that that's well, that's where
Speaker 1: you got ten picks. That's where my rookie would come in.
Speaker 1: Rookies can play special teams for sure. I mean even
Speaker 1: if they drafted a linebacker at fifty, I'd still make
Speaker 1: him play special teams. But to answer your question, and
Speaker 1: three rounds or whatever, but nineteen overall, like nineteen is
Speaker 1: not a good spot for a linebacker in this year. Right,
Speaker 1: it seems like there's two that are gonna go slider. Well,
Speaker 1: it's it depends. Like I actually had that conversation on
Speaker 1: Twitter yesterday, there's two. There's two studs that are gonna
Speaker 1: ta Tremaine Edmunds and Roquan Smith are the two studs
Speaker 1: that I don't think it's realistic to hope for them there.
Speaker 1: And then there's two others. Rashaun Evans out of Alabama
Speaker 1: as a guy that gets talked about a lot who
Speaker 1: probably fits into that range. And then this kid out
Speaker 1: of Boise State, Layton vander Esch, which people are all
Speaker 1: over the board on him. Some people think he's a
Speaker 1: top twenty pick. Some people think he's a late second
Speaker 1: round pick. Hundred forty tackles last year. Yeah, so there
Speaker 1: are options, but it's not It's not a slam dunkin's either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a slide or a jump for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's why nineteen just doesn't seem like a good
Speaker 1: Nineteen isn't a great spot for most of what they need.
Speaker 1: That's talk about will Hernandez. I mean they needed a guard,
Speaker 1: and talk about these guards so much because you could
Speaker 1: probably well, Quentin Nelson, he's he's you could probably get
Speaker 1: the second best guard in the draft at nineteen, or
Speaker 1: you could potentially get the best receiver in the draft
Speaker 1: at nineteen. Other than that, the board doesn't really line up.
Speaker 1: I think Ridley is he the best hammer or more
Speaker 1: whichever one you prefer, or I'm probably I don't take
Speaker 1: your pick. I don't think more than one receiver is
Speaker 1: getting picked before like pick fifty. I'll give you some
Speaker 1: credit here. He and I know that you're doing the
Speaker 1: draft show, but you for like the last month you've
Speaker 1: been saying, hey, watch my guy DJ Moore from Maryland,
Speaker 1: who was like a third round pick or something like
Speaker 1: that projected at that point, my safety Irwin James, he's
Speaker 1: he's gonna go to the Combine. He's gonna kill it
Speaker 1: up there, and he's not even gonna be in the
Speaker 1: equation for nineteen. Now, you look at all these other
Speaker 1: draft experts after the combine and they tell you, watch
Speaker 1: out for DJ Moore, watch out for Derwin James. So
Speaker 1: good job on those two. I'll allow I'll allow myself
Speaker 1: to Dj Moore or backpad. But like anybody who follows
Speaker 1: the draft knew that Derwin was. I mean, he's a freak,
Speaker 1: but at that point he was sitting there at I've
Speaker 1: seen mocks with Seattle, I've seen Dallas at nineteen. Now.
Speaker 1: That's well, that's what makes the draft process so fun.
Speaker 1: Like you, I mean, it's all up on a wall
Speaker 1: and it looks one way in January and it looks
Speaker 1: a completely different way and the way of all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and then someone goes, man, I got out that quarterback
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, and then people trade up and everything
Speaker 1: just goes out the window. Ten ten years ago on
Speaker 1: this show was probably me and Derek and be like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, uh, I was happy Easter to you.
Speaker 1: It was a good um. You know what, the draft
Speaker 1: is coming up in like two weeks, we should start
Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys are picking where let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: You know, who are some guys now in ten years
Speaker 1: from now, it's going to be like, all right, happy
Speaker 1: Halloween everyone. All right, let's get where. We're about eight
Speaker 1: and a half months from the draft daily draft showing
Speaker 1: October daily getting close to that. Well, I mean that's
Speaker 1: kind of how the team's flus. What shifted? What did
Speaker 1: Brian say today to you? I was in the middle
Speaker 1: of some other crap, dealing with some other stuff, but
Speaker 1: I heard over here about I hate free agency and
Speaker 1: I hate the games of Like, yeah, what do you like? Then?
Speaker 1: He he just wants to draft, wants the draft everything,
Speaker 1: And that's Brian. Brian would like hate the like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, get Danny Shelton. He would hate that.
Speaker 1: He's just like slimmy draft. Yeah, fine, guys, don't trade
Speaker 1: any of my picks. Fine, guys, see I'm the Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I'm sitting here in the third round and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can get I mean, the value of players at
Speaker 1: that point is so low. Everyone wants the draft picks,
Speaker 1: and I guess I'm just still remember Randy Moss going
Speaker 1: to the Patriots for a fourth Yeah, y'all haven't been
Speaker 1: doing the draft show for too long though, because Brian
Speaker 1: will say one word and he and Dane just had
Speaker 1: these like, oh, one word conversations back and forth. Or
Speaker 1: Brian's like the guy and Dang's like, yeah, the guy,
Speaker 1: and he's like yeah. It's like, what are y'all talking about.
Speaker 1: It's a conscious effort on my partists like they're like, wait, hey,
Speaker 1: such on the same page. You're speaking another language. Remember
Speaker 1: that there's other people here. The runner all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's shift gears to the quarterback. Um got some money.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Cowboys quarterback. Yeah he got some money.
Speaker 1: Yeah he got some money. Congratulations. Good yea wake up
Speaker 1: on a random Wednesday in March, and you got four
Speaker 1: hundred thousand extra dollars explaining that never happened to me.
Speaker 1: It's it's something. It's add incentive incentive pay. Like basically,
Speaker 1: if you if you outplay you're you're slotting. Then the
Speaker 1: league rewards you. So, I mean a fourth round pick
Speaker 1: is not expected to play as many snaps as Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: and so they reward him a little bit extra on
Speaker 1: his salary because it's sort of like it's almost unconstitutional
Speaker 1: how little Dak is being paid or his importance in
Speaker 1: the team. And Anthony Brown got a paid a two
Speaker 1: because he hit like seventy percent of the snaps and
Speaker 1: he's a sixth round pick. Last year, Anthony Hitchins was
Speaker 1: was set to make six fifty and he made and
Speaker 1: he ended up getting one point eight. JJ Wilcox a
Speaker 1: couple years ago had the same thing because he was
Speaker 1: on the field for X amounts in three years, Sir
Speaker 1: and Rick would be the one that was getting So
Speaker 1: what's the pattern here? A third, fourth, fifth, sixth rounds?
Speaker 1: He's middle rounds. If you if you outperform your draft
Speaker 1: slot by a noticeable margin, then then the league basically
Speaker 1: doubled his money, didn't he's making yeah something like that.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how that works with like taxation,
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure he would be March fourteenth, but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's awesome here all the sponsors that he gets, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he gets way good for him. He's fine, He's fine.
Speaker 1: Like it's not he's not making his value, but like
Speaker 1: he's okay, Yeah, he's okay. This team goes eight and
Speaker 1: eight next year, is he okay? No? See, that's this
Speaker 1: is the issue that I think we have with with Zack.
Speaker 1: It depends. For sure, I was a very blanket statement
Speaker 1: who he could be playing great? He gets he gets
Speaker 1: compared a lot to Russell Wilson, and that could be
Speaker 1: scary because how many great wide receivers are wanting to
Speaker 1: go to Seattle. Yeah, and Sammy Watkins had a decision
Speaker 1: to make. Now he took a little bit more money.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, that's great, the only one, and then he
Speaker 1: left but underrated, saying maybe maybe Russell Wilson doesn't make
Speaker 1: these receivers that much better. Maybe that That's what I'm
Speaker 1: kind of worried about with with Dak. I mean, what
Speaker 1: if if I'm around the league and I'm liking I'll
Speaker 1: get does his worst year is happening when when he
Speaker 1: him and Dak, maybe I need to go to a
Speaker 1: place where the guy's gonna clearly make me better. And
Speaker 1: Dak's had a position in his career where he's trying
Speaker 1: to figure out himself out. And I don't think he's
Speaker 1: making other receivers better just yet. That's that's what I
Speaker 1: kind of worry about. I wonder if it's got around
Speaker 1: the league, it'll start trickling around, like, you know what,
Speaker 1: why go over here? This guy's had more success some
Speaker 1: of these receivers. Maybe you are trending down. I mean, Paul,
Speaker 1: start adjusting everything around him, and you replaced this because
Speaker 1: they don't work well together, and you get any tied in.
Speaker 1: That's you know, more effective WHOA WHOA into years in
Speaker 1: two or three years, I'm saying, down the road, down
Speaker 1: the road. You move everything around him, and he's the
Speaker 1: one constant in the passing game. Still hasn't changed. Everything's
Speaker 1: Dak friendly, right, and you're still not the offense you
Speaker 1: think you should be. Yeah, exactly think, Hey, that's saying
Speaker 1: Dak friendly. I cannot stand here, thank you because I
Speaker 1: do too. Yeah, I hate it, doesn't I hate it
Speaker 1: when it was Romo friendly. It gets just to just
Speaker 1: make your team better. About that. I mean, I've said
Speaker 1: this a half dozen times at this point. Not the
Speaker 1: only person who's got more writing on twenty eighteen than
Speaker 1: Dak is Jason Garrett. I mean, because Dak's not playing
Speaker 1: for his job because he's under contract for at least
Speaker 1: two more years. But I mean, if if he if
Speaker 1: he's not good, if he steps further back, or if
Speaker 1: the offense is in a rut, and if they don't
Speaker 1: win games, then you're going into twenty nineteen not sure
Speaker 1: about your future quarterback. I mean, I think if they
Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs next year, and then obviously you
Speaker 1: got a new head coach and then they pretty much
Speaker 1: start over. But it depends on how the games go down.
Speaker 1: But I mean I don't think that they would they
Speaker 1: would look at it and go a week that's definitely
Speaker 1: our guy. Well, that's a tough evaluation just because I
Speaker 1: think that based on everything that we've seen so far
Speaker 1: and the things we talked about about coaching and Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: we've seen that it goes way beyond the players that
Speaker 1: are on the field. So you begin to question, Okay,
Speaker 1: is it really the player or is it the way
Speaker 1: they're being coached? And I know there were some obviously
Speaker 1: coaching changes, but it's still under you know, Scott Linehan
Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett and blah blah blah, and now is
Speaker 1: it really that is the root of the problem coming
Speaker 1: from there or is it the players? I think you
Speaker 1: look around it. There's been great quarterbacks. I'm a quarterback
Speaker 1: drafted really high that had really great rookie seasons. Their
Speaker 1: second season they kind of struggled somewhat and then they
Speaker 1: snowball to the point where they can't get it flipped around.
Speaker 1: And now now Robert Griffin's not in the league, Now
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick's not in the league. It could be other
Speaker 1: reasons involved there. But if they were really really good players,
Speaker 1: they would be. But I would I will say this,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking back to your point about Russ, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, Russ has never needed those guys, because that's
Speaker 1: not I mean, I'm sure he'd prefer them, but that's
Speaker 1: not the way Seattle played anyway. I mean, the first
Speaker 1: four years he was there, it was all based around
Speaker 1: the run. I mean, Marshawn Lynch made it move and
Speaker 1: he made good decisions. He got away from pressure and
Speaker 1: made plays to his receivers. I mean what he had
Speaker 1: Baldwin curse, they traded for Harvin, They didn't bring Jimmy
Speaker 1: Graham on to a way late, and so I think
Speaker 1: about let's just assume Dak is actually really good, because
Speaker 1: I think he is. I'm not really worried about his
Speaker 1: long term future. But Colby's is a free agent after
Speaker 1: this season. You can one way or another. We're already
Speaker 1: talking about shedding Dez and his contract. That's not a
Speaker 1: long term issue one way or the other. Next year,
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to get off there, exactly. So
Speaker 1: what's it really all about. It's all about your running game,
Speaker 1: your one hundred and fifty billion dollar offensive line. You're
Speaker 1: running back and your quarterbacks ability to play a role
Speaker 1: in that. And you know, I'm not worried about their
Speaker 1: ability to plug in young, inexpensive receivers who can do
Speaker 1: the job better. I think the way this team's constructed,
Speaker 1: even if Dad continues to take steps forward, I don't
Speaker 1: see a reason why you need to be investing tens
Speaker 1: of millions and dollars in receiver for the time being. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm surprised has not really been mentioned
Speaker 1: a whole lot. But it's always about Dez and what
Speaker 1: they do there. But what if he's not the receiver
Speaker 1: that needs to be released? What if that's not the
Speaker 1: contract I mean, let's think about it. Who can replace
Speaker 1: what Dez has done on this team. I don't know
Speaker 1: if there is a guy that can do that. I've
Speaker 1: been saying this for a while. Look at Cole Beasley.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody that can replace what cold be easy?
Speaker 1: We just drafted one. I mean, I mean, he's not
Speaker 1: there yet, but he Oh, he's got to get on
Speaker 1: the field to have a chance. I know, but I
Speaker 1: mean there was Cole sitting there. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: the only one of those three receiver deals that they
Speaker 1: can get off of and not have any dead money, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 1: And you drafted a guy in the fourth round last
Speaker 1: year that you apparently liked enough to get him touches consistently,
Speaker 1: whether special teams or offense, and they obviously tried to
Speaker 1: take that part away. I'm not saying it's a it's
Speaker 1: a great idea. I'm just saying, maybe you can restructure
Speaker 1: things a little bit from that standpoint. I don't disagree
Speaker 1: with anything you're saying. I just don't think Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: is not commanding enough money, nor is he like hurting.
Speaker 1: He's not hurting the team. It's just like that idea,
Speaker 1: that's the reason. Nope. The reason we talk about death
Speaker 1: so much is because you see that sixteen point fil
Speaker 1: five million chargs just hanging over everything. Whereas I mean,
Speaker 1: it doesn't drastically alter anything if Beasley's gone. So that's
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I mean he obviously William
Speaker 1: doesn't it. Yeah, I mean number it saves you some money.
Speaker 1: But again, like it's it's not just like this ah
Speaker 1: like this beam of cap space. And he was the
Speaker 1: one guy that seemed to probably garner the most attention
Speaker 1: from from other But what did we do after they
Speaker 1: started focusing on Cole Beasley? Like we didn't adjust and
Speaker 1: make plays off that. So I put a cheaper guys.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you would even bring him up
Speaker 1: to the conversation when you look out, I get point.
Speaker 1: He's not the first person to suggests that. But it's
Speaker 1: like you look at the group of wide receivers and
Speaker 1: we know how Cole has helped this team, and the
Speaker 1: point was the coverage he was getting. You know, he
Speaker 1: was very limited in that way. And why is that?
Speaker 1: Because he is good and he is one of those
Speaker 1: Jason Witten and him is one of those guys that
Speaker 1: Dad could easily go to. But he's also limited, Like
Speaker 1: you said limited, he's limited and the things he can do,
Speaker 1: he can only play a certain position. And I think
Speaker 1: you would have to change the structure of your offense
Speaker 1: and how you're doing things if he wasn't there. All
Speaker 1: I'm saying and is is like his contract doesn't hurt you.
Speaker 1: I don't think you would cut him. I mean, he
Speaker 1: seems like that would be a tradable type type situation
Speaker 1: for sure, if you wanted to go that. My thought
Speaker 1: is just like, put someone better somewhere else and leave
Speaker 1: him there. He and great, great point, someone better the
Speaker 1: goal the goal? Right, Yeah, we're in we just fast
Speaker 1: forward a year. Well, we are in a we are
Speaker 1: in a weird sort of limbo with that, with almost
Speaker 1: the entire passing game really with the role he fulfills.
Speaker 1: That's someone on a rookie contract fills that role. But
Speaker 1: alrty catch a year guy. That's a guy in a
Speaker 1: rookie contract, Like that's what you expect from them, not
Speaker 1: from your guy you just re up for. I mean
Speaker 1: four years, he had seventy something in sixteen. I mean
Speaker 1: he can yeah more. Well, yeah, I haven't seen him
Speaker 1: do more recently. I I just so Daz and Terrence's
Speaker 1: deals are easy to get out of next year. Easily's
Speaker 1: deal is over next year. And Jason Witten, I mean
Speaker 1: when he decides to retire, it shouldn't shock any buddies.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think so much this year, but now,
Speaker 1: I mean, starting in twenty nineteen, you see a real
Speaker 1: turnover and what the passing game on this team really
Speaker 1: looks like. All right, we're gonna take our last breakcare
Speaker 1: we will come back. We're gonna maybe throw out a
Speaker 1: few names, a few positions. Maybe the Cowboys will have
Speaker 1: about David Irving too. Yeah, I'm interested. Yeah, we'll talke
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Speaker 1: Dave al Shan's deal with Philly was for fourteen million,
Speaker 1: so idency I undersold the worth of that. But still
Speaker 1: a one year prove it deal like that's nowhere near
Speaker 1: as gross to me is committing three to five years,
Speaker 1: you know with whatever I looked at Uparantinas, y'all said
Speaker 1: that I looked it up because the number fourteen was
Speaker 1: always in my head with Alison, I get, I get
Speaker 1: Jeffrey and Pryor confused probably for less. There's a reason
Speaker 1: why you said that it was a one year he
Speaker 1: got nine million last year. They put a lot of
Speaker 1: other years on there that that he could he could
Speaker 1: get that like with a option it all averages to fourteen.
Speaker 1: Looks pretty for fourteen. If he would have sucked, that
Speaker 1: could have cut him. It would have been a one
Speaker 1: year nine million. So you're you're kind of right about that,
Speaker 1: kind of like the Henry Melton deal that we did
Speaker 1: here a few years ago exactly, and the deals that
Speaker 1: Haynesworth got with And there's a lot of that going
Speaker 1: on right now where Sherman Richard Sherman's deal in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Like at the end of the day, it's like one year,
Speaker 1: nine million dollars unless he doesn't hit all of his stuff.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that one real quick, because over the weekend,
Speaker 1: cowboys were getting crucified at least through my Twitter timeline
Speaker 1: about why they didn't go that route. Just remember there
Speaker 1: they're his position coaches here, Chris Richard, he's here, he
Speaker 1: knows what kind of player he is. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that they didn't like him, but coming off an Achilles injury, like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean with that kind of money, I don't know. Thanks,
Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm here for you if you want to
Speaker 1: wind to me about almost anything, like I'll at least
Speaker 1: listen to it. But Richard Sherman's almost thirty. He blew
Speaker 1: out as Achilles, and he's gonna want a sizeable deal
Speaker 1: to come here. And I'm not saying the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: loaded with all pro corners, but the whole point of
Speaker 1: what they did last year is they've got four to
Speaker 1: five solid defensive backs who were playing for pennies on
Speaker 1: the dollar. Like you're you're trying to be efficient here,
Speaker 1: and that's just a completely inefficient signing. You invested heavily. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jordan cheated of your woods, Like, let those guys turn
Speaker 1: into something like the Saints did last year and Anthony
Speaker 1: that matter. Yeah, Saints played all their rookies when they
Speaker 1: were young last year. They reaped the benefits of it
Speaker 1: because those guys got experienced, they were good. If if
Speaker 1: they are good enough to hold those jobs, then you've
Speaker 1: got a starting secondary that you're paying the same amount
Speaker 1: of money that Rman is making off of one year
Speaker 1: of his deal. I mean, that's the whole point. You're
Speaker 1: trying to find talent for cheap. Let's talk Scandrick real quick.
Speaker 1: Scandrick apparently has has let it be known that he
Speaker 1: wants to get traded. Release right. I mean, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: release trade whatever he wants to go to another team. No, no,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to get traded. You're right. He wants
Speaker 1: to get the same thing with Dez. He wants to
Speaker 1: get another contract. Um bet Dez would like another contract.
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet you know Zeke would like maybe
Speaker 1: another guy to kind of help him. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: cool that he requested that. I don't think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will or should do anything there. Thanks for your input, Orlando.
Speaker 1: I think not. I think he'll will do what we
Speaker 1: want to do. I think he'll get his wish at
Speaker 1: some point. But when people stop talking about him, that's
Speaker 1: when he puts something into get people start talking. He
Speaker 1: acts like a former player, and he's not a former
Speaker 1: player yet, but he acts like that. Like that, those
Speaker 1: guys will just throw out some outlandish headline just because
Speaker 1: it's really more like, don't forget about me. I was
Speaker 1: a good player once, and he does. He's like he
Speaker 1: wants to get involved with the free agency stuff. If
Speaker 1: I'm the Cowboys, I'd wait two weeks. I think he'll
Speaker 1: get his wish. But yeah, I don't see any reason
Speaker 1: why you have to do it right now. He's seen
Speaker 1: the writing on the wall, right, Yeah, they've invested so
Speaker 1: much in the other cornerbacks that are around all it
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, he'd probably been banking on this for
Speaker 1: a year. He probably saw this happening when I think
Speaker 1: you're trying to replace him. Okay, so let's say he's
Speaker 1: not on this team, you still need a veteran cornerback
Speaker 1: or something. I mean, I don't. I don't like just
Speaker 1: going with those two rookies plus Anthony Brown plus whatever
Speaker 1: Byron Jones is going to be. Uh, I don't think nobody.
Speaker 1: How many more do you want? I mean, I think
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. Yeah, I think so you're probably
Speaker 1: only going to carry five on a team, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: and don't I'm again not draft one, but you don't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable enough with got Duke Thomas hanging around two?
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still here. I'm fine with it. I
Speaker 1: think a safety needs to be and the safety needs
Speaker 1: to be added to the mix one way or the other.
Speaker 1: But I don't think you don't think. I don't think so. Man,
Speaker 1: if if it didn't cheat on the outside, Xavier playing slot,
Speaker 1: Byron Jones playing slot, and then you've got Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: and whoever you want to work at Byron and Cheeto
Speaker 1: on the outside, Jordan in the slot. Brown is your
Speaker 1: number four either way, and then Woods can do a
Speaker 1: little bit of everything, well, at least in like probably
Speaker 1: not outside, but Anthony Brown still there. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's the one position I really liked their dipths if
Speaker 1: it fell to where you know, we talk about how
Speaker 1: the board doesn't line up with their needs. If if
Speaker 1: Mike Hughes at a UCF is there at nineteen and
Speaker 1: he's the best guy on your board, okay, but I mean,
Speaker 1: look at it is this gigantic cornerback is the least
Speaker 1: of my word, Josh Jackson, where's that? Where's he going? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That area too, probably late first round, first or at
Speaker 1: the second. I don't think cornerback should never ever, it
Speaker 1: should never be the least of your concerns because that's
Speaker 1: the position that gets you beat that. I mean that
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying going get
Speaker 1: another Nolan Carroll because that bombed. I'm just saying get
Speaker 1: somebody else in. There's some some more veterans. So the
Speaker 1: fact of maybe not having our Lando Scandrick bag troubles you.
Speaker 1: Somebody that can say, Hey, like we just got off
Speaker 1: the bus and Green Bay, where's the locker room? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't been here. I haven't been two years.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything. I mean, not just that, but
Speaker 1: like I've played this quarterback before, I've played this guy before, Scandrick,
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose a lot with terms of a smart
Speaker 1: cornerback that kind of knows the league. He understands a
Speaker 1: lot of concepts. He's seen a lot. Say what you
Speaker 1: want about him being grumpy and Oscar the grounds or whatever.
Speaker 1: He's a smart player. He reminds me smart guy like
Speaker 1: smart guy. He reminds me a lot of ways of
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman. He's not as loud as as him, but
Speaker 1: he is very smart. I could see where Scandrick could
Speaker 1: be his own agent, just like Sherman. He understands the
Speaker 1: concept of things. I don't want people to mistake us
Speaker 1: saying we don't have to replace him for saying he
Speaker 1: has no value and he's not a good player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a good player. I could just see some value
Speaker 1: in the room because I don't think Byron. I think
Speaker 1: they did that last year. I think that's they saw
Speaker 1: this coming and they took a sledgehammer after it. Added
Speaker 1: three rookies. Yeah, and you know, retain They're keeping Byron. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they're keeping Jeff Heath. They're they're deep. Who can never
Speaker 1: have you can never have enough corners. But it's not
Speaker 1: something I'm losing sleep about. I think I would look
Speaker 1: at the potential I can't move about to say this
Speaker 1: about signing and free agency, which would really be resigning
Speaker 1: Mo Claiborne. Okay, anythink but why I love to have
Speaker 1: another Tiger in the room. But but I mean I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. Man didn't do anything for you,
Speaker 1: not really? How much? Yeah, it's always the question, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how much discount deal to come? Hey, if it's a
Speaker 1: give it to me. Yeah. And if I told you
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would move up the sixth overall pick. I'm
Speaker 1: the best defensive player and he wouldn't do anything four years.
Speaker 1: I'm not watching at thirty for thirty. You know it's
Speaker 1: really a five for five. It's a short. I'm not
Speaker 1: alluding to who you think I'm alluding to, but just
Speaker 1: what if they I mean, bring in a veteran safety instead.
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't have to be a cornerback. Et
Speaker 1: come home. No, it's not who I'm talking about what
Speaker 1: you're saying talking about. It. Just told you he'd signed
Speaker 1: Kenny Vacaro. He could sign anybody. Just add. I mean,
Speaker 1: they need a safety, whether it's the draft or free agency,
Speaker 1: they need one. I agree, I agree with. Then I
Speaker 1: go veteran safety there before I go veteran corner. I
Speaker 1: do think it's a it's a bigger need. I just
Speaker 1: I just somebody in the room. I think they'll probably
Speaker 1: do a Nolan Carroll type deal something like that. Just
Speaker 1: have some veteran. I was so upset a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago whenever they didn't go after Eric Wettle whatever.
Speaker 1: He got free, and I'm like, I want that type
Speaker 1: of duty. He doesn't have to play every snap. He's
Speaker 1: a Nickels safety guy, and he balled out for ball.
Speaker 1: Then you got here and you said, he looked up
Speaker 1: at our social media coordinator and you're like, damn, they
Speaker 1: did get Eric good point shifted jobs. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: five minutes left. The one thing the Cowboys have done
Speaker 1: other than tag to Marcus, which for the end, did
Speaker 1: we figure out how they got there? I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think they needed to get there. I think that
Speaker 1: was miscellaneously or erroneously reported. Not. That's why we don't
Speaker 1: talk about this um salary cap a lot, because I
Speaker 1: think a lot of fans treat it like they're at
Speaker 1: a basketball game and there's a scoreboard and says that's
Speaker 1: exactly what they have left. You can look at contracts
Speaker 1: forty four different ways, probably more than that, and there
Speaker 1: might be a figure that says they were for twelve
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Yeah, that was not and it might have
Speaker 1: been plugged in with a two point nine million, one
Speaker 1: year tender for David Irving, which is what he got.
Speaker 1: So second round tender two point nine to one million dollars.
Speaker 1: He will explain the process of how what happens from here.
Speaker 1: Their team could sign him, say somebody wants him, anybody
Speaker 1: nine ers won him. Let's forty nine ers can take
Speaker 1: that number and make him an offer sheet. It famously
Speaker 1: happened a couple of years ago with c Anderson. Think
Speaker 1: Miami tried to sign him to a three year, eighteen
Speaker 1: million dollar deal. Denver said, nope, we want you, which
Speaker 1: is ironic because they're talking about cutting him right now.
Speaker 1: What happens in free agency. But so they matched that,
Speaker 1: or actually I think they beat it out, but they
Speaker 1: gave him a better deal. So theoretically, David Irving could
Speaker 1: play this year on a one year, two point nine
Speaker 1: million dollars deal if nobody offers him anything. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: don't have to give him any another dime. But the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers will say, come in, they want to
Speaker 1: go four years sixteen. Okay, okay, four year sixteen. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys says, well match that. If they don't, they will
Speaker 1: get a second round pick from the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: this year. This year's which I don't think the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers actually have one because they traded it to
Speaker 1: New England for Garoppolo. But witch it up to the
Speaker 1: let's let him go right if someone comes in with
Speaker 1: a second round pick, there is only there is only
Speaker 1: one explanation. There's only one explanation. For why they would
Speaker 1: if you're giving him a second round tender, it's because
Speaker 1: you don't actually want him that much. You'd be fine.
Speaker 1: If nobody makes an offer, great, you got him back
Speaker 1: if they I mean, you know, I thought about it
Speaker 1: in this terms, like if you somebody was like, oh,
Speaker 1: do you want to ensure this purchase? You got a
Speaker 1: new car, you want to ensure this purchase. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you really want to ensure it, wouldn't you buy
Speaker 1: the top of the line everything, one hundred thousand miles
Speaker 1: and no matter what happens to it, you're good. But
Speaker 1: if you're really like, yeah, you're not really thinking about
Speaker 1: keeping it for a long time, You're like, now we'll
Speaker 1: take the bargain insurance plan and you know, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: not covered for flood, but I'm covered for theft, you know,
Speaker 1: like that type of stuff. So if they're not willing
Speaker 1: to give him the best possible tender, it means they
Speaker 1: don't really want him. They'd kind of like they'd be
Speaker 1: okay with him being on the team, but they would
Speaker 1: take that second round pick in a heartbeat. That's I
Speaker 1: think that's the only way you could read. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of people in like so late second round pick
Speaker 1: for David Irving. Are you going no, I know what
Speaker 1: this guy can do. He's a splash player. He makes
Speaker 1: big plays, he just rubs stuff, he raises hell in
Speaker 1: the backfield. Or are you like, yeah, I'll take that
Speaker 1: cheap contract for that second round pick and hope I
Speaker 1: can find a guy. It's it's running the point almost
Speaker 1: it's six to one half a dozen to the other.
Speaker 1: I really I hate the idea of letting go of
Speaker 1: a guy who can put up seven sacks in eight games.
Speaker 1: I hate. I mean, we've been whining about the pass
Speaker 1: rush on this team the whole time I've watched the soup.
Speaker 1: I can change your mind in three minutes. All right,
Speaker 1: go for it. We have two but right that's why, Okay,
Speaker 1: go no, I'll I need three. Oh, I hear you,
Speaker 1: I hear I mean you think about it, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: if it's a top if it's as if it's a
Speaker 1: second round pick, so it's gonna be a top seventy pick.
Speaker 1: I mean you shouldn't. Regardless of the cowboys woes in
Speaker 1: the second round, you should be able to hope that
Speaker 1: you can find that really good player. That pick also
Speaker 1: moves you into the to the spot of I mean
Speaker 1: you you can take that and sit there with somebody
Speaker 1: at thirteen or fourteen and go, I'm using this second
Speaker 1: round pick that I got for Irving. I'm moving up
Speaker 1: here and oh you know what would happen use if
Speaker 1: someone gives us a second round pick. We're sitting there
Speaker 1: Week six and we're like, hey, we can't get any sex.
Speaker 1: I wish I had someone that could disrupt thee the
Speaker 1: passing game, but nine used you use that extra second rounder,
Speaker 1: you use him to trade up and get Derwin James.
Speaker 1: He's got six picks, but six but you now that
Speaker 1: you don't have David Irving, where's your defensive tackle situation?
Speaker 1: Look like? No? I know, I mean it won't look great.
Speaker 1: I think Crawford going to move back there. The ideal
Speaker 1: scenario that I'm hoping for in the Brian Price, Sorry
Speaker 1: sorry Price, how did we bury the leader there? I
Speaker 1: think the ideal way for all this to work out
Speaker 1: is if every other team in the league is aware
Speaker 1: of the problems with David Irving that prevent the Cowboys
Speaker 1: from loving him, and if hope the ideal scenario is
Speaker 1: that nobody tries to sign him long term, and he
Speaker 1: plays out this year on a two point nine million
Speaker 1: dollar contract. If he balls out, then you've got a
Speaker 1: question to answer next year, and you either sign him
Speaker 1: long term, which I doubt happens, or you let him
Speaker 1: go and you get a third or fourth round compick
Speaker 1: for him, or he struggles or has issues again next year,
Speaker 1: and then you've got the leverage when it comes time
Speaker 1: to negotiate a contract. I think without the suspension, people
Speaker 1: would get pretty interested. Say he played just yeah, played
Speaker 1: last year, yeah, and misstime because just an injury, not
Speaker 1: a suspension, right, I think people come sniffing around him.
Speaker 1: I ate that late second. I would be on him
Speaker 1: like he's a great player. I mean, he's a great player,
Speaker 1: and there are a litany of reasons why you might
Speaker 1: not want to trust him with a sizeable contract. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, But maybe one year type of
Speaker 1: thing or exactly what they did. Yeah, I'll be interested
Speaker 1: to see. I will. I won't be surprised if somebody
Speaker 1: makes him a handsome offer, and I won't be surprised
Speaker 1: if nobody touches him and he plays out this year
Speaker 1: on a one year deal, which I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if that's what he wants, because if he goes out
Speaker 1: and plays, you know, sixteen games and has ten sacks
Speaker 1: as a d tackle, he's gonna get ye hey, next year.
Speaker 1: What I will be surprised with Irving is if he
Speaker 1: gets an offer sheet from another team in the Cowboys
Speaker 1: matchet that was surprised, would surprise they'll take the second.
Speaker 1: This is a case of like the CBA working perfectly
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's right on the nose second
Speaker 1: for him. Two point nine is played riding the nose
Speaker 1: for him. I'm like, good job, guys, Yeah, we figured
Speaker 1: this one out. For that one, give me pick fifty
Speaker 1: five and we'll qull it you all right. Well, earlier
Speaker 1: in the when we first started, you said we were
Speaker 1: going to get better. There was one area will be better.
Speaker 1: Definitely got better. Tommy John Reid was better, the man better.
Speaker 1: Every single day we got better. There. No, it's good Mike,
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