1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. ESPN's Paul feinbaumb joining us the voice of 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: the SEC and uh SEC Network, beginning at three eastern. 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Paul will be on the SEC Nation Live Saturday at 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: two eastern on SEC Network ahead of the SEC title game. 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: Paul joins us dunk. Can you remember a week of 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: coaching changes that rival this in recent memory? No, because 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: there's never been one like this, Dan, And I was 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, it's Thursday, in the craziest week we've 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: ever covered in college football. What if after the game 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: Saturday night, Nick Saban announces he's retiring and Lane Kiffin 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: takes his place. Who would that top everything else? Now 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: you're not reporting? No, no, please, Okay, that's just I 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: was just I was just free associating. Is there any 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: is there any chess move left that could obliterate you know, 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: a thirty five year old taking over at Notre Dame 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: the two moves that we've obsessed over since Monday and 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: Sunday and Monday, And that's really about it. Beyond that, 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: it's it's the craziest week ever. Who had the best week? 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, Brian Kelly, Marcus Freeman, others. I think in 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: some way, Southern cal did with Lincoln Riley, because you know, 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: they have this gold plated program that has been dormant 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: since Pete Carroll, and they have infused energy in a 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: town that, as you know, needs needs buzz, needs sizzle, 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: and he's done it. I think he will recruit fabulously 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: well out there. There's so many great players that are 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: everywhere from Alabama to Old Missed to Oregon, and you 28 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: can you can find a million other ones in between. 29 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: I think, you know, Notre Dame is is a puzzle 30 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: because so little is known about Marcus Freeman and he 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: hasn't been announced yet, but he's likely will. They're just 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: making sure that he hasn't done anything on his resume 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: George O'Leary twenty years ago. That's the only reason I 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: think they're still waiting up there, and I don't I 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: don't blame anyone for taking your time. I think LSU 36 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: did well. I mean, Brian, I talked to Ryan Kelly yesterday, 37 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: as I know you did, and he's the most relaxed 38 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: sixty year olds in America. He just he he just 39 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: cashed in his four oh one k for one hundred 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: million dollars and and gets introduced to Cajun food. Does 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: he know what he's getting himself into? I think on 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: one level he does. I don't think he understands the lingo, 43 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: and frankly, there's no way you can. I've lived in 44 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: Louisiana and it's it's an incredible place. But the only 45 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: guy who I think ever really understood it is at 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: OZERD and he just got fired. So I think you 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: almost have to throw that out that Nick Saban looked 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: lost eighteen years ago when he parachuted in there from 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: East Lansing. Remember the famous story dam They sent the 50 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: plane for his staff, and Saban's the only guy that 51 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: got off. Nobody else was leaving with him. Eventually a 52 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: few more joined him. But that's just the way it is. 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: And I think fit is overrated a little bit. As 54 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: soon as you can start winning, fans will love you. 55 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: They don't care who you are and where you're from. Yeah, 56 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: you start to figure this out and you look at 57 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: it like the immediate success. I like what Notre Dame did. 58 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: If it meant you kept your offensive coordinator and basically 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: your defensive coordinator. And they're young thirty five and twenty nine. 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: It can be dangerous because now if Marcus Freeman becomes 61 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: a head coach, everything that that entails. And I always 62 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: go back to Bill Belichick's coaching tree. You know, Charlie Weiss, 63 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: he's not a head coach, assistant coach, Romeo Cornell assistant coach. 64 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: When you take over the head coaching job and you're 65 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: at a franchise, I mean, this is a Notre Dame's 66 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: a franchise. It's like Duke the Yankees, the Cowboys. You're 67 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: taking over some thing really enormous and really really polarizing. 68 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Is there any other place in college football that comes 69 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 1: close to le the responsibilities will be at Notre Dame? Well, 70 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: probably Alabama, but I think that's a given. Yeah. And again, 71 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: I know a lot of young people are listening and 72 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: they're going, Notre Dame, what's the deal? But but but Dan, 73 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: When when we grew up, Notre Dame was the biggest 74 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: name in college football and it still is on one level. Now, 75 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: I think it's changed a little bit because the sport 76 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: has mostly moved south in terms of a recruit where 77 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: where recruits want to go. But it's it's you'll never 78 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: go wrong saying I just committed to Notre Dame. We're 79 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: talking to Paul Feinbaum, hosts of The Paul Finebaum Show 80 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: on ESPN Radio. Let's look at the what if scenarios here. 81 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: If you want to start with Alabama and Georgia. Can Alabama. 82 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: I know they can beat Georgia. Of course they have 83 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: a chance, but the likelihood that we could see Alabama 84 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: upset Georgia is what I think. It's pretty low, Dan, 85 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: and you're talking to somebody who's spent most of his 86 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: life in Alabama and not not that our predictions matter, 87 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: but I will give you a stat I have not 88 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: picked against Alabama since the Iron Bowl in twenty ten, 89 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: when Cam Newton was the Auburn quarterback. And by the way, 90 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: they've only been an underdog one time since then. So 91 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: it's not like I'm really doing anything or going against Vegas. 92 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: You would you would be very wealthy if you had 93 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: been on Alabama every game over the last eleven years. 94 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: But it's hard for me to buy into. Well, Nick 95 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: Saban's on the sidelines. Okay, well, he was on the 96 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: sidelines at College Station. He was also there last week 97 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: at Auburn when Alabama should have lost. So I just 98 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: don't think the matchup goes very well. Yeah, I know 99 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: Kirby Smarts team with Georgia is in the playoffs, but 100 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: they don't care about that. I mean, they want to 101 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: beat Alabama. Kirby Smart can't walk down the street without 102 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: somebody saying, how did you blow the last three Alabama game? 103 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Two of the two of them in the National Championship game, 104 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: he had a he had a I think a thirteen 105 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: point lead. The next year in the SEC game I bubble, 106 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: he had a seventeen point lead, and he led in 107 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: the most recent game a year ago. So he's had 108 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: enough of that and he's ready to plant his flag. 109 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: I think in Nick Saban's throat, where do you think 110 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: we get the potential for biggest surprise this weekend? Well, 111 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: I do think Cincinnati is vulnerable against Houston. That's a 112 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: team that we just you know, we we haven't talked 113 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: much about, but they're on quite a hot streak. I'd 114 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: rather not say this out loud, that that what if 115 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: Michigan lost, because you know, I mean, I don't even 116 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm not getting out of bed Sunday morning if Michigan 117 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: loses because I don't even want to think about that possibility. 118 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: But I've now I'm now the biggest Jim Harbaugh fan 119 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: in America. I hope he wins everything, never loses another game. Wait, wait, 120 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: what happened? That sounds like that's tongue in cheek, Paul, Well, 121 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: it's somewhat tongue in cheek. But I've heard from so 122 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: many good natured Michigan fans that are so well meaning. 123 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: I just don't I'd rather not deal with him again. 124 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: I say, listen. Uh, Harbaugh is as a chapter in 125 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: many many books. But alcohol mistake can lose. I mean, 126 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: there all these are possibilities. They're not that far fetched. 127 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: Oh man, if Michigan loses to Iowa, it doesn't does 128 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: it undo everything? No? Because I think he was hired 129 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: to beat Ohio State. Uh. And I think you know 130 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: he got an unusual fan base, Dan, I don't need 131 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: to enlighten you on that. Um, and they wanted that 132 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: game so badly. I think that was I know they'll argue, 133 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: but I think in some way that's what he had 134 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: to overcome. I think he'll win. I think this is 135 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: a non issue, but um, please don't. I mean, I 136 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: love being on your show. But I don't want to 137 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: see your name on my phone Monday morning if Michigan loses, 138 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: because I'm going into a cave. What if Notre Ames 139 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: somehow gets into the final four, Well, then then Marcus 140 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: Freeman gets to become a hero. What was the guy's 141 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: name at? Yeah? But what about remember the Remember the 142 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: ncagum Way basketball Tournament with Michigan, right the guy? The 143 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: guy nearly won the national championship. It would be one 144 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: of those type of stories. And you know, everyone who 145 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: says that the Committee will go against Notre Dame, I 146 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: think they're wrong. I think they would like to embrace 147 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: this story with a brand new coach. I think that's 148 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: I think the narrative is completely wrong on Notre Dame. 149 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: What about Oklahoma State? Could Oklahoma State get boxed out here? 150 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: It's possible. Yes, I think Cincinnati is in. I think 151 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: all these uh doomsdayers who think the Committee will go 152 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: against Cincinnati don't don't understand the politics of this. And 153 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: now I sound like one of those critics who who 154 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: claimed the Mothership makes every decision. They don't. But but 155 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati is the favorite sign here. They if 156 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: they win, they're in. Oh you think that they because 157 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: I thought they If they keep them at four, then 158 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: it's easier to drop them out, if you know, style 159 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: a point style points here. I'm overthinking this, as I 160 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: always do, Dan, But I just think that it would 161 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: send such a bad message. And I don't you know, 162 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: when these committee guys say, oh, we just we hit 163 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: the represet button every week, I don't really believe that. 164 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: I think if they want, if they didn't want Cincinnati, 165 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: they would have kept them below that line because there 166 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: there would be quite a reaction. Uh. And that's not 167 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: really well right now? College football doesn't care. All they 168 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: care about is one hundred million dollars a coach. So, 169 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: but I'm pretty firm on Cincinnati getting in. Does Nick 170 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: Saban get a raise? He should? Uh? And I wonder 171 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: if you know Saban's calling you his agent, Jimmy sexon going, 172 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: does somebody want me? I'm available for one hundred and 173 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: fifty million. And by the way, Dan, nick Saban is 174 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: worth one hundred million dollars a year. Forget for ten 175 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: years what he's done for college football, for his school, 176 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: his league. Yeah, you put Nick Saban as a CEO 177 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: on Wall Street or or a California tech company. He's 178 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: making what stock options? He's making a one hundred million 179 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: dollars a year easy. Yeah, I just wonder how long 180 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: he wants to coach. He did lash out at the 181 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: fan base. He flirted with Texas, But I don't know 182 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: if that was just to say to Alabama, hey, understand 183 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: what you have because there are other people who want me, 184 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: or do you think he got close to taking that 185 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: Texas John. I think he was closed and they offered 186 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: him based on what the people with whom I've spoken 187 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: about one hundred billion dollars back then I was a 188 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: twenty twelve twenty thirteen. He told me once that he 189 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: did not want to deal with the Texas boosters, meaning 190 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: that there's too many people. When he look to Alabama, 191 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: he laid the law down. I'm running this program, don't 192 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: bother me. And that was always the problem at Alabama. 193 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: It's been the problem at a lot of schools. So 194 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: he has total control and but but you know, he 195 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: just turned seventy. I don't think he's ready to walk away. 196 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: But he does seem a little restless this year, doesn't he. Yeah, 197 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: he's like irascible, sometimes gets cranky and he just doesn't 198 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: want to deal with, you know, US minions there. I 199 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: asked Brian Kelly yesterday if Notre Dame was ranked third, 200 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: would he have left for the job at LSU? And 201 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: he said, I can't answer that. What do you think 202 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: he would have done? I think he would have had 203 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: a difficult time doing that because you know it would 204 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: have it would it would have been perceived as unconscionable. 205 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: It's much easier leaving when you're fifth or six, but 206 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: it's no longer your responsibility. Do you think that He's 207 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: basically said to the university and to his players yesterday 208 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: or Monday, I can't win a national championship. That's why. 209 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. That's exactly what he's saying. And he's right. Yeah. 210 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: And for all the criticism he has gotten losing to 211 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: Alabama by twenty eight in twenty twelve and the two 212 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: playoff losses, the roster I'll never forget on the field 213 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: in Miami and you were down there. I remember seeing 214 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: you at a restaurant the night before. I was walking 215 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: around with somebody from the NFL and NFL executive and 216 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: he said, these two teams don't even look the same. 217 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: Alabama looked like an NFL team and Notre Dame looked 218 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: like a good college team that they were. They're not comparable, 219 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: and I think that's why he doesn't get the credit 220 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: that he really is deserving. And there was no way 221 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: he's ever going to get the five star defensive players 222 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: up there and the elite athletes at wide receiver and 223 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: running back in quarterback that Alabama, Georgia and a lot 224 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: of the schools in the South and putting LSU get 225 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: And that's why Marcus Freeman, if he takes over the job, 226 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: it's still the same requirements, restrictions, hurdles at Notre Dame. 227 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: Nothing nothing really changes. I mean, you change coaches, but 228 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: you still have your same offensive, offensive and defensive philosophies. 229 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: With those two coaches, you still have to get have 230 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: to work really hard to get those recruits in. And 231 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly's probably saying, waymen, I can triple my salary. Yeah, 232 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: it's the SEC. They won a national title a couple 233 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: of years ago, and I don't have to worry about 234 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: anything academically. Where do I sign up? And at age sixty, Yeah, 235 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: I think it's tried to say this because we know 236 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: Saban won a championship at LSU. But I have to 237 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: think Brian Kelly's saying to his wife less miles and 238 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: at oseron one titles down there, I mean those guys, 239 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: I mean I can do that. I'm proud of those guys. 240 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: And you're now defined by ty and I think that's 241 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: where he is. Oh my god. Yeah, I haven't thought 242 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: of it that way. But no offense you were supposed 243 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: to say, no offense to h with of course. Of course, 244 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: great to talk to you, Paul Is Always. Thanks for 245 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: joining us, Thanks Dana pleasure, Thanks for listening to The 246 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Love chat Row 257 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: love being on your show. Let's do it all right. 258 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: How is Thanksgiving? By the way, you are mister food honestly, Well, 259 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: first of all, you will appreciate this. I was in Dallas. 260 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: I did the Raiders Cowboys for Westwood One. They had 261 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: a sidecarving station of honey glazed ham and smoked riby. Unbelievable. 262 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: But here's what's funny about it. When I go up 263 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: to at my ham and RIBI the chef like the 264 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: guy with the big hat, the irrationally big hat. I 265 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: don't know why his hat needs to be so big. 266 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: But he looked at me and he said WHOA. I said, well, 267 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: he's like I thought you were James Vanderbeek for a 268 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: second and I said no, I said no, actually, I 269 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: am meat head James Vanderbeek. According to the Dan Patrick shows, 270 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: that's one of the only time that's ever happened. I 271 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: don't look that much like the guy. I mean, I'm 272 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: way bigger and stronger. I have a beard. But anyway, 273 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: he said that, so the Cowboys probably had Dan the 274 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: best press box food spread I've ever been a part of. 275 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: I love my mother in law, she's a good cook. 276 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: But the Cowboys kind of kind of kind of put 277 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: her away, all right, that lost by the Cowboys, like 278 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: what has happened to the Cowboys recently that you can 279 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: put your finger on. Well, I think at a minimum, 280 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: not having Amari Cooper and Ceedee Lamb really really hurts them. 281 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: You know. One of the reasons why they were so 282 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: dynamic in Dacks an MVP candidate, is they got an 283 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: unbelievable receiving trio. You know, Gallup is a really good 284 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: number three, but he's not a great number one, and 285 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: I think that was very limiting for them offensively against 286 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: the Chiefs when he got hurt and Cooper didn't play, 287 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: and against the Raiders, that's the big reason why they 288 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: didn't score enough points in those games. I think defensively 289 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: they were good against the Chiefs. The problem defensively against 290 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Nobody wants to throw the ball near Treyvon 291 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: Diggs for the interception they attacked Anthony Brown. He got 292 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: four past interference penalties in one game. I have no idea, 293 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: Dan why the NFL decided would be a good idea 294 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: to have thirty penalties on Thanksgiving, which is one of 295 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: the three games a year. Some people watch Thanksgiving in 296 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. They had. It was a four plus 297 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: hour game, but at any rate, that's why the Cowboys 298 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: lost is all the past inference penalties on Anthony Brown 299 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: and they didn't score enough because they didn't have Ceedee 300 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: Lamb or Amory Cooper. Are they a contender for the 301 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Like a legitimate contender for the Super Bowl? Yeah, 302 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean I still think it's gonna be the Packers 303 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: of the Bucks. But yes, I think the Cowboys will 304 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: be in the mix. I think the Arizona Cardinals will 305 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: be in the mix. I think when the Cowboys have 306 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: all of their guys firing on all cylinders, both sides 307 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: of the ball, I still think they are as good 308 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: as anyone. I mean, Micah Parsons, I can't remember the 309 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: last time we saw a rookie defensive player like this. 310 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: I've had multiple people tell me they think he's the 311 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: best edge rusher in the NFL already, which is bananas. 312 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: He didn't he opted out last year. He played linebacker 313 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: the two years before that at Penn State. He's a 314 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: part time edge rusher this year, and they think he's 315 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: the best in the whole league. It's crazy. Greg Cosell 316 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: said that Daniel Jeremiah said that it's really believable. I 317 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: was wondered about the MVP, and I try not to 318 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: go week to week and go, hey, who's the MVP 319 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: this week? And I'm really kind of struggling to figure 320 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: out who is the most Valuable Player? And I kind 321 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: of fall back to Tom Brady. I don't know if 322 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers it would be held against him that he 323 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: wasn't vaccinated and missed a really important game against Kansas City, 324 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 1: sort of the way I looked at James Harden when 325 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: people tried to mak an MVP candidate and he forced 326 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: his way out of Houston, came in out of shape, 327 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: and I said, he can't be the most Valuable player. 328 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: Look at what he did do his former team to 329 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: get out of there. Do you think it would be 330 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: held against Rogers that he missed a really important game 331 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: and lied about being vaccinated. Yes, honestly, Dan, knowing the 332 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: writers and the people that vote for that award, even 333 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: if he hadn't missed a game, the fact that he's 334 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: not vaccinated, some of them will hold that against him, 335 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: And the fact that he lied about it, some of 336 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: them will hold it against him. Then you add the 337 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: fact that he missed a game and they lost because 338 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: of it. I don't think Aaron Rodgers has a prayer. 339 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers knows he doesn't have a prayer. 340 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: I think Brady if you look at his numbers, I 341 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: mean I haven't looked at it this week, but he 342 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: was leading the NFL on touchdown passes, leading the NFL 343 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: in passing yards. It's almost like we've gotten bored of 344 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: Brady and we want to try to give the award 345 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: to somebody knew, like, who's the next big thing. Let's 346 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: give it to dak Let's give it to Kyler Murray, 347 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: somebody else, please step up and take this. It feels 348 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: like Brady's the default option yea, and people are hoping 349 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: anyone else steps up. It's like people don't want to 350 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: see Alabama win the national championship. People don't want to 351 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: see Tom Brady win the MVP. Wells also that they 352 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: kind of anointed Josh Allen and and it was gonna 353 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: be his year, almost like he's Luca Dunchick, like, hey, 354 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: you're special, it's here year. And I said, well, Dallas 355 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: isn't going to be competing for a title. Luca is 356 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: not going to win the MVP, which of course he didn't. 357 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I thought there was way too much pressure 358 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: on him because I don't think it's a great offense. 359 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: I think when he does special things, then it is 360 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: a great offense. But I don't like he's had some 361 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: bad runs here the last couple of weeks, with what's 362 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: happened with Buffalo. You know what's weird, Dan, I can't 363 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: remember a year where there was sort of this much 364 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: uncertainty regarding the Heisman Trophy and nobody really seemed to 365 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: take it and run with it. I feel the same 366 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: way about the MVP. But I got a vote on 367 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: the Heisman by next Sunday. I have to this weekend. 368 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: I have to. I don't know who I'm voting for. Well, 369 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: and can't you say something? I know the Heisman is 370 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: supposed to be. I don't really know what most outstanding 371 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: player is, but if they had the MVP in college football, 372 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: it's Kenny Pickett. I mean Pitt. You know, people talk 373 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: about Bryce Young, He's a nice player. C J Stroud, 374 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: nice player. What do you think Pitt's record would be 375 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: if those kids played for Pitt? What do you think 376 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: Alabama and Ohio State track would be if Kenny Pickett 377 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: played for that. I mean Kenny Pickett. To have Pitt, 378 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: you gotta play in big games. You gotta be you 379 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: gotta be in the you know, top ten, you gotta 380 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: be relevant. As and as fun as he is to 381 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: watch in that game against Wake Forest is gonna be awesome, 382 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: He's just not playing in meaningful games. You know, you 383 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: have your Heisman moment, and you know he hasn't. He 384 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: hasn't had that opportunity. It's really important to have that moment, 385 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: that standalone game. All right, Then let's go and I'm 386 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: gonna try to change your mind. Let's go with Aidan 387 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: Hutchinson from Michigan then, or the nose tackle for Georgia, Well, 388 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis. That's who I would probably vote for today. 389 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: And I go back to and I love defensive tackle 390 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: for some reason, I fall in love with him way 391 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: too much than I should like. I'll go back and 392 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: Steve Entman, who played at Washington, you know Dominican Sue 393 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: where I just watch these guys in college and I go, God, 394 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: that guy's awesome. And I'll come in on Monday and 395 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: tell these guys this nose tackle is awesome. You know, 396 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: will I vote for a defensive player, Sure? Absolutely, and 397 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: he might be the best player. Well why don't we 398 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: Why didn't anybody ever mentioned Stetson Bennett. I mean, if 399 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: Gino Torretta won it, or guys like uh I Ken Dorsey, 400 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure went to New York. He's playing really well 401 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: on the best team in the country. He's a good player. 402 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: His numbers aren't huge. We're not going to do that anymore. 403 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: We're not going to do that. It's not going to 404 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: happen because people will go, oh my god, Gino Torretta 405 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: won a Heisman Jason White like that. As a voter, 406 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, when people say, how could you vote for it? 407 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: I said, why wasn't voting back then? But you had 408 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: to almost defend why you would vote for the best 409 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback on the best team wasn't the best player, 410 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: most valuable player on his own team. It defies logic, 411 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: But those guys won Heisman trophies. That's the stets inbended argument. 412 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: I guess it's like anything else in life. You can 413 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: always point to one example from like ten years ago, back, 414 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: well he did, so he should do it. Who's the 415 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: best defensive tackle you ever faced. Richard Seymour. Richard Seymour 416 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: is the best defensive lineman I ever faced. He should 417 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. Dan. He was extremely gifted, 418 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: He had incredible technique, and he was legitimately mean like 419 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: he played hard. So, in all sincerity, D lineman waits, 420 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: what does it mean that he plays mean? Well? So 421 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: I went against a bunch of D tackles that were 422 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: probably more talented than Richard, but they just didn't play 423 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: hard all the time. You know, if you're a really 424 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: gifted guy, you don't have to You can kind of 425 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: pick your spots. Seymour was trying to kick your you 426 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: know what. He was a mean, aggressive player. And I 427 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: know that everybody things, well every football players like that, right, 428 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: Not really, There's some three hundred twenty five pound freak 429 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: show D tackles that just kinda picked their spots. They're 430 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: not really trying, you know, they want to make a 431 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: couple of plays, but they're not trying to beat Richard 432 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: Seymour was trying to beat you down. He's an interesting example. 433 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: I talked to him about this when we played for 434 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots. When he resigned there, His second contract. He 435 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: knew that it might hurt him for awards like the 436 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, because in New England's defense, you must 437 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: play the run for the first two seconds along the 438 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. So he knew he would never have 439 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: the Warren Sap tackle for loss sack numbers. But if 440 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: New England's gonna compensate him for that, he was okay 441 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: with it. But I'm here to tell you right now, 442 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: if he played in if he and Sap switched, Seymour 443 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: puts up SAP numbers or better, Sap could not have 444 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: done what Seymour did in New England as a three 445 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: or four two gapping defensive end. Talking to Ross Tucker, 446 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: are the Rams okay, I'm not so sure. You know, 447 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: It's like when they played the Titans and the Titans 448 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: beat them up up front. It doesn't feel like they've 449 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: really recovered, you know. I mean, even the last game 450 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth, who I love, Rashawn Gary and Kenny Clark, 451 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the Rams offensive line went from 452 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: a strength to a liability. I mean, they're getting beat 453 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: up by some of these D lines up front, and 454 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: then on their D line. Donald von not as dominant 455 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: as they had been. I think Stafford misses Robert Woods. 456 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if you heard this, Dan, Matthew Stafford, 457 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: this is is gonna be hard to believe. Breaking news 458 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: play the breaking news. Okay, Matthew Stafford is a professional 459 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: football player playing through injuries. Man, is he the only 460 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: guy who's playing through an injury? Runs? Every week we 461 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: hear a new report about a quarterback that's playing. I 462 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: mean that is. Can you imagine how hard it must 463 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: be to drop back four yards and throw a football 464 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: while something on your body hurts. It's a good thing. 465 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: None of the offensive and defensive linemen that are smashing 466 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: into each other every play have anything bothering them physically. 467 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean it, give me a break. Here's the rule. 468 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: Everybody watching, everybody listening. The rule is, if you go 469 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: inside those white lines. Number one, everybody's hurting. Number two, 470 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: nobody cares. If I said you can have there's gonna 471 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: be an eighteen game schedule, and they'll give you an 472 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: extra bye week with the players sign up for one 473 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: more game, more money in an extra bye week. So 474 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: the top five percent of the players the Stars would 475 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: not because that one game incrementally financially is not worth 476 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: it to them, and they don't want the wear and tear. 477 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: They're already making millions of dollars a year. From the 478 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: sixteenth or maybe even the fifteenth guy on the roster, 479 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: all the way down to eighty, they are volunteering and saying, 480 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: heck yes. If I always say Dan, okay, you know 481 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: most of these guys, you know, if you're getting one 482 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: point seven million or you're getting a minimum, let's take 483 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: a one hundred thousand dollars a week. Okay. If you 484 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: went into the locker room on Christmas Eve and said, hey, guys, 485 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick just called he wants to know if we'll 486 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: play Buffalo on January sixteenth, you guys all get another paycheck. 487 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: You'all get another hundred grand. Every guy except for maybe 488 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: the four or five stars, would be like, heck yes, 489 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: we're already here. We already went through training camp, we 490 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: already went through the whole season. We're already going to 491 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: be here till January ninth. All I have to do 492 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: is go to two more practices that week, play one 493 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 1: more game for another one hundred thousand dollars, when, by 494 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: the way, I might get cut next year. I might 495 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: get hurt. I might never make this money getting the 496 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: rest of my life. Where do I sign? At least 497 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: forty of the guys would sign immediately in the locker room. 498 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: It's always great to talk to you love. When you're 499 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: fired up. You've got I'm always fired up. You've got 500 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: Army Navy next Saturday, my favorite day of the year 501 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: every year. If you've never been, I know you have, 502 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: But if other people haven't been, if you're not feeling 503 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: great about the country, find a way to go to 504 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: the Army Navy game. You'll watch everything, You'll take a 505 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: deep breath, and you'll say, Okay, we're gonna be okay, 506 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna be all right. He's Ross Tucker, otherwise known 507 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: as Meathead, James Vanderbeek Spicy Mustard for Life. Thank you, buddy, 508 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: See Dan. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 509 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 510 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 511 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 512 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. He's 513 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: my carment, I'm Dan Byer. We have a brand new 514 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex twice a week, 515 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: every Tuesday and Friday, we come up with new episodes 516 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: to not only look back at what happened, what you 517 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: need to do at that minute, and also look ahead 518 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: of what's coming up in the fantasy football world. That's right, Dan. 519 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: Every week we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find 520 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup six starts 521 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate 522 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: the competition. Listen to I Want Your Flex with Mike 523 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: Carmen and met Dan Buyer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple 524 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: Podcast and wherever you get your podcasts. Make way for 525 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez, former NFL quarterback usc QB, Fox NFL analyst. 526 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: He's going to be covering the Jags and Rams coming 527 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: up on Sunday. Mark joins us, Good morning, Mark, how 528 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: are you? Good morning? What's going on? Guys? Let's see 529 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: six two and a quarter and give me two thirty 530 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: five at the moment. Did you lie about height or 531 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: wait when you were in college or the NFL in 532 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: high school? Yes, I think I've put like sixty three 533 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: or something, But after that I just kept six two 534 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: and after the combine. It's like, all right, everybody measured me. 535 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: Can't lie about that anymore. What do you What do 536 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: you remember about the combine? Oh? So I I dislocated 537 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: my kneecap going into my last season at USC like 538 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: the second practice, So I sat out most of the 539 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: training camp, came back for the opener against Virginia on 540 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: the road, and I had to wear this brace that 541 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: like basically kept my kneecap in place while I'm running 542 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: around and stuff, because once it dislocates, it's prone to 543 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: do it again. So at the combine, everybody's got to 544 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: check it out for a couple of days of the 545 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: medical exams, and so everybody's just cranking on this knee 546 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: and this thing blew up like a basketball in the 547 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: hotel room. And I was like ice in this thing 548 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: all night just to get to the next day so 549 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: I could go out run my forty and do all 550 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: the physical stuff. It was a disaster. But every doctor 551 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: from every single team was like, oh, this is the knee. 552 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: How does this feel? You know? And they're just like 553 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: cranking on it, and I'm like, dude, and you can't 554 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: say anything, you know, And by the end of the day, 555 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: This thing was just so big and so annoying. But 556 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: I ended up getting it fixed after my half for 557 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: my rookie season. It popped out again my rookie year. 558 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, the combine was a disaster. I was talking 559 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: to Matt Leiner yesterday and he talks about it. I 560 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: heard him. Yeah, he talked about you two taking ballroom 561 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: dancing together. Now he had already graduated, so he needed 562 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: to credit you were a freshman taking ballroom dance. Was 563 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: that your major? No? I think without the kneecap issue, 564 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: I might have been a professional dancer. Oh okay, Now 565 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't. He's like, I can't remember 566 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: any dances. Well. Our teacher was Jeseus. Everybody called him 567 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: Jay and h he was a trip. But the you know, 568 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to name any names. At the gal 569 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: that Matt was seen in school, her friend became my partner, 570 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: was my dance partner, and she was like she was 571 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: a total babe, and you know, had a mini crush 572 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: on her. And we danced and on to the nights 573 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: and had our little thing. It was cool. I thought 574 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: it was awesome. I like, how Matt, you know, didn't 575 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: I said, man, a great place to meet women if 576 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: you're in college taking ballroom dancing. Oh yeah, he died 577 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: that thing like the play. That was funny. He said 578 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: that he was hearing Matt Campbell at Iowa State was 579 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: the guy that USC was kind of zeroing in on 580 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: before they got Lincoln riding. Who were you hearing USC 581 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: was gonna hire? Well, I was hearing that. I was 582 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: hearing that Sunday, you know, right before all this went down, 583 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: I thought that was going to happen. I thought the 584 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: fickle thing was going to happen, potentially because of his 585 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: connection with Mike Bone. Apparently he was a former ID 586 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: there and they were together something, so which you know, 587 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: those guys would have been those guys would be great. 588 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: But I think this one was just such a big 589 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: splash and so exciting offensively and so exciting for recruiting, 590 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, And I don't know we could have got 591 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: anybody better. I was just as excited as Matt. But 592 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: what has happened since since Pete Carroll left? Like what 593 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: what what left with when Pete left? The recruits left California. 594 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. The kids starting at the 595 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: kid who was starting at Georgia. It was from matter 596 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: day for a little bit and then they you know, 597 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: switch quarterbacks or whatever. But J. T. Daniels was from 598 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: Motterday and he's in Athens, Georgia. The kid from the 599 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: other kid from Motterday, uh, Bryce Young has started at Alabama. 600 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: The kid from Saint John Bosco is starting at Clemson. Now, 601 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: whether these guys are you know, the best quarterbacks ever 602 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: or NFL Hall of Famers and all, that isn't the point. 603 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: The point is they all came from Lawrence County and 604 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 1: they left. Like Koto's are On used to say, when 605 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: things were rolling here, they would see other coaches show 606 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: up at LAX and they'd be like, what are you 607 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: doing here? Other coaches from other schools like why are 608 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: you here? Are you on vacation? Like what are you doing? 609 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: You're not getting any of these kids, get the hell 610 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: out of here, you know. Like that was like the 611 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: running joke because you'd walk in with the SEC interlock 612 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: to a high school and everybody just lined up. I 613 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: mean they were Coach Carroll was recruiting guys just so 614 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: they didn't go to UCLA Like it was. It was crazy. 615 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: We have five five star running backs. At one point, 616 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: it was like Mark Tyler, Emmanuel Moody, C J. Gables 617 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: Toefan Johnson all in one running back room. I was like, Holy, 618 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: this is unbelievable. How did that's the way it was? 619 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: How did Pete recruit you? Or ed Oh, coach, oh, 620 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: you go hold the jophy, you go hold the sword 621 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: in the Rose Bowl. You're gonna be the quarterback? Or 622 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: do you what's he quotes? That was like he said, 623 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna sit on the ladder and after that we're 624 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: gonna go. I'm gonna gona make you some gumbo. I said, 625 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what gumbo is, but I'm in. I'll 626 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: be there. And Charis hack Man, I mean, Coach Carroll 627 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: literally sat in my living room with my whole family, 628 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, chewing gum like he does and going a 629 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: million miles an hour. And he was just such an 630 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: energetic personality. They were putting out quarterbacks left and right. 631 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: Carson had just gotten drafted, Liner was in the running 632 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: for he was just about to win the hisman, and 633 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: Matt Castle was getting drafted after barely playing like this 634 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: is a quarterback factory. Sarkisian is going to be their 635 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: child's there Oderon's there where else would I go. I mean, 636 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: it didn't make any sense to go anywhere else. You know. 637 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: I looked at Ohio State, I looked at Texas, I 638 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: looked at Notre Dame, and it was like, why would 639 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: I leave? There was you know, there's no other option. 640 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: And now once you see what Lincoln Riley's done with 641 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: all these other quarterbacks, here a quarterback here in Orange County, 642 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: San Diego, La, Northern California, why would you leave? Talking 643 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: to Mark Sanchez, the Fox NFL analyst, he's got jags 644 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: at the Rams. What concerns do you have with the Rams? Oh? 645 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's interesting because when they lost Robert 646 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: Woods and people think like, oh, it's fine, they just 647 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: get Obj. Well, Woods plays Z for them, He's like 648 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: their flanker, and so now Van Jefferson's kind of in 649 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: that role and he's more of like a flawed and 650 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: sometimes an axe and not really a Z like he 651 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: didn't really play Roberts position. So he's got to learn 652 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: a lot. Obj's got to learn a ton. You know. 653 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 1: I watched their game last night from Green Bay last week, 654 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: just again before I go to their practice tomorrow. And 655 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 1: it's little stuff like when you go system to system 656 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: when you're you know, Obj's on his third team and 657 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, well, why is he not panning out? 658 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: Why he's not good anymore? Or was it Baker? Was 659 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: it him? Well, when you go from team to team, 660 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: these languages of offenses and the little nuances whether you take. 661 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 1: You know, when you run a two by two balance 662 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: set and you run like all slants, give me, give 663 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: me a run, give me a complicated play. I mean, 664 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: this isn't a complicated play. Everybody runs it, but you 665 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, you'd call it lying or dragon is like 666 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: drag slant or lyon is all slant or triple slant 667 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: or whatever. Basically, some teams run them like five steps 668 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: slants on the outside, three steps slants on the inside. 669 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: Some teams run them three steps slants on the outside, 670 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: one steps slants on the inside. Some teams run slants 671 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: on the inside and have like options where if you 672 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: get walled off by a backer or nickel and they 673 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: don't let you go inside, you just slam on the 674 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: brakes and pull back out of the route. So everything's 675 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: like a little different everywhere you go, driving a different card, 676 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: dating a new girl. Some girls are gluten free. Some 677 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: girls eat anything, you know what I mean. It's just different, 678 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: same basic rules, same game, but just a little different. 679 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: And you can tell they're trying to figure it out 680 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: right now. And Stafford's a little off with him. He's 681 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 1: a little off with Stafford. Stafford's expecting him to run 682 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: on a certain route or slam on the brakes and 683 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: he's doing the opposite. So they're still feeling each other 684 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: out and it takes time. But I mean, the biggest 685 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: concern is, like, if they don't rip off a bunch 686 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: of winds, they're gonna have to go back to green Bay. 687 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: And it was freezing up there. It was like you know, 688 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: in the team low teams with the wind chill, and 689 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: they did not look good. So I mean, that's finally 690 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: fear with them, Like they need to win a bunch 691 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: of games, and green Bay has to hit a little 692 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: slide if the Rams want to, you know, control home 693 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: field and all that. What's worse for a quarterback Snow rain, cold, wind, 694 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: wind sucks wind like the old Meadowlands, the old Giant 695 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: Stadium they would have to keep. So they had these 696 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: two big garage doors on each side, like on each 697 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,720 Speaker 1: side of the field, kind of so like emergency vehicles 698 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: can come through right, well, they'd have to keep one 699 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: open as like some sort of code or safety code 700 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: or whatever. So the wind would come in there and 701 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: just swirl and you're like you literally have to plan 702 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: plays based on the quarter. Like if you're gonna take 703 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: a deep post shot, you can't throw it into the wind. 704 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean, at least I couldn't. Maybe Josh Allen could. 705 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, maybe a handful of guys that have 706 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,479 Speaker 1: ever played could have done it. But that was tough, 707 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, we're gonna hit this. We're gonna 708 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: try and hit flu to you the deep posts on it. 709 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to try and get to it in 710 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: the second quarter because we're going the wrong way right now. 711 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: Like it was ridiculous. So the wind totally sucks. Rains. 712 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, rain's never been that much of a problem 713 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: for me, but I got really big hands. So I 714 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: remember playing that that Monday night game against the Vikings 715 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: against farm and it was just pouring, I mean just 716 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: absolutely drenched, and warm ups and it was those weren't bad, 717 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: but I mean just getting used to the cold. Like 718 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: I remember, you know, I'm a soaku kid man. I 719 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: grew up in Orange County. I'm at the beach like 720 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 1: Rainbow Sandals all the time, and then you go to 721 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: New York. I mean I never played a game in 722 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: less than you know, fifty two degrees, So it was 723 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we'd go out on Tuesdays and the equipment 724 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: staff would wet the balls down when it started to 725 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: get cold, and just I'd have to go play catch 726 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: and just get used to it. It sucked. It would 727 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: hurt so bad, and it was just different. So you know, 728 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: it's different when you when you drafted kids from the 729 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: West Coast. Have you looked into the NFT with the 730 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: butt fumble to make some money off of that, to 731 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: own that? You know? That's funny. My best friend actually 732 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: talked about that because he's like, you know, all these 733 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: people are doing it and making money. I mean, I 734 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: get how like the concept of it, but it just 735 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: seems so weird. Like I don't that whole thing, the 736 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: bitcoin thing, like I just I don't know, that's really 737 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: hard for me to wrap my brain around. That's just 738 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: like different, and I know I don't know enough about 739 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: it to like jump in that arena. So I just 740 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: kind of stayed away from it. Well you should have 741 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: skipped dance class taking an econ class. Yeah, something like that. 742 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: I don't get the bitcoin bitcoin one either, and even 743 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: the NFT I'm not quite sure. Yeah, but there's a 744 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: whole blockchain thing and we're gonna go mind this stuff. 745 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what's it like living an a matrix? Man? 746 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm out, I'm out. I remember the first time I 747 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: walked on USC's campus and I thought it was a 748 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: movie set and I sell them a lot of movies there. Yeah. 749 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: But I'm with my son, who eventually went there, and 750 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: then my one of my daughters. But you walk on 751 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: that campus and you go, this, this isn't real. It's like, right, 752 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: it's even nicer. Now have you seen it recently? Oh? Yeah, 753 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 1: they build that village I'm saying recently in the last Yeah, 754 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: oh what, there's like a Whole Foods and a Trader 755 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: Joe's across the street. That market we used to go to, 756 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: that three two market had straight up wraths in there 757 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: all the time, all the time, and I'm like getting eggs, like, 758 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: oh damn, that's nasty. Yeah, it's it's a little different place. 759 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 1: It was terrible, And then the movie theater. Oh my god, 760 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: that movie theater. There was like homeless people in there. 761 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: The dudes like we'd go seet like saws were coming 762 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: that those saw movies were coming out, so everybody want 763 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: to go see that. And I mean, dudes are just 764 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 1: like screaming and they're like, no, don't go in the room. 765 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 1: Don't go to the room. Homeless guys in there, people 766 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: like giving birth in there. It was disgusting. I hated 767 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: that place, dude, I'm telling you, that place was so bad. 768 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: It was so bad. The fact that Coach Carroll got 769 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: all those kids to go there, with those facilities and 770 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: like the way the campus was at the time, that's crazy. 771 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean it didn't even match up to 772 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: anything that it is now or any of the other schools. 773 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: I know. Tough life, though, tough life being a USC student, right, 774 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: So happy I went there. I mean, it's the best. 775 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: It's the best, especially if you're gonna live here when 776 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: you're done, like if you're gonna be in SoCal. Yeah 777 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: you went to USC. That's awesome. Man. Did you have 778 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: a football in the world football class? Yeah, but was 779 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: there one that all the football players took aside? From 780 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,959 Speaker 1: ballroom dancing. Oh oh um. There was like a self 781 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: defense class that was kind of cool. Well that might 782 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: come in handy if you went into the movie theater. Yeah, exactly, 783 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: that movie theater. You needed it, bro that place is 784 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: so bad self No, we took like karate. It was 785 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 1: like karate or like self defense. That one was to 786 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 1: be fun. Um. Occupational therapy was a cool one. But 787 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 1: a lot of guys were, you know, Matt said yesterday, 788 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: a lot of guys were sociology majors because nobody knew 789 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: what they wanted to do. Everybody's just like okay, I'll 790 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: just go sosh, and that's what they did. I ended 791 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: up taking communication. Actually took a class on on like 792 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: fashion communication. So like the gal page from Page Premium Denim, 793 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: which was super popular at the time, came in and 794 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: spoke to the class. Um. I took a class of 795 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: Doctor Boyd and I think like Giarmo Doltro came in 796 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: and spoke to us. People from the office, Jim and 797 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: Pam from the office came in when the office was 798 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: they poke car class. It was awesome. You get to 799 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 1: see like all the sneak peak movies and TV shows 800 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: that are out. It was it was really cool. It 801 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: was great. Yeah man, yeah, they have fun with the 802 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: Jag and the Rams. Always great to catch up with you, 803 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 1: my best of the family and thanks again. I appreciate 804 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: now all right, Yes, sir, that's Mark Sanchez, Fox NFL 805 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: analyst and former USC quarterback