1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, Miami International Holdings making 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: its public market debut this hour. The training gives i'm 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: my AX a market value around two and a half 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: billion dollars. So let's bring in Thomas Gallagher, the company's 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: chair and CEO, life from the New York Stock Exchange 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: and for discisial purposes. Part of collaboration, Bloomberg and my 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: AX intend to launch futures and options and we'll have 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: a dedicated studio on the exchange floor later this year. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: That's the Miami Exchange floor. Tom, congratulations, IPO price is 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: twenty three dollars. You went public and open for trading 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: at thirty one sixty five. Bouncing around now, but essentially 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: you raise three hundred and forty five million dollars. Are 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: you happy enough? 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I'm happy to how 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: the stock opened, I'm happy about the way the whole 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: road show went, and I'm happy about the opportunity that 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 2: being a publicly traded exchange gives us. 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: So I'm very excited to today. 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Bonnie, Now, you did get a nice bomb. For any 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: concerns that you might have left some money on the table. 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: No, no, concerns at all. 22 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: You know, we've raised a lot of capital prior to 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: going public, and I want our shareholders to enjoy some 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: upside in our stock. So I was very pleased with 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: the pricing, and I think that we got fair value 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: this morning. So I'm very excited and particularly excited about 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: what having this capital on our balance sheet does for us. 28 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: Now you have Emerald Sapphire Perl so many different securities 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: and derivative exchanges. Talk to us a little bit about 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 1: how you plan to broaden your reach, because right now 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: you really do have a nice portion of the derivatives, 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: and it's the options trading if you like, But when 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: it comes to equities and maybe other products, you could 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: do more. 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I'm very proud of the fact that 36 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: literally in less than a dozen years, we've become the 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: fourteenth largest derivatives exchange operator in the world, and in 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: December of twenty twelve, we didn't exist. 39 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: So what I plan to do is to leverage. 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: The technology, the people, and the relationships with market participants 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: like Citadel and move into other asset classes like futures. 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: And I'm so excited about the long term exclusive licensing 43 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: agreement that we signed last summer with Bloomberg. 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: So we're going to launch the. 45 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: B five hundred futures on my ex Futures Exchange and 46 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: also right on the heels of opening up our brand 47 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: new trading platform on August excuse me, on July first. 48 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: So we have a whole new acid class in futures 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 2: and the anchor for this relationship is Bloomberg. 50 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: I'm so excited about that. 51 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: And then once we get done with the B five 52 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: hundred futures and options, we're going to move to the 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: B one hundred. So we're really excited about this long 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: term partnership with Bloomberg, particularly the ability to not only 55 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: have the securities relationship, but also that you folks will 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: be down in Miami with us and have a broadcast facility. 57 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: Really exciting. 58 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I like the sound of that. You are 59 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: planning on having a piss right, It's going to be 60 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: the first pit that we've seen since essentially, you know, 61 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: the last remaining pit cosed in New York a couple 62 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: of years ago. 63 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, having a trading floor, we're coming full circle. 64 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: Some of my team closed trading floors, but the reason 65 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: we opened the trading floor in Miami is our member 66 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: firms wanted us to do it. You know, in nineteen 67 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: eighty eight, there was two phone companies that dominated the 68 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: flip flows. 69 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: It was Motorola and it was Nokia. 70 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 2: Who would have thought twenty years later that the Apple 71 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: iPhone would become so ubiquitous. So what we've done over 72 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: the last eighteen months, I put people on the floors 73 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: of various exchanges see the workflow, and we've automated things 74 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: even on a manual trading floor that haven't been changed 75 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: in thirty years. So I'm really excited. The other thing 76 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: is Miami. Miami is a great place to conduct business. 77 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: What started as a pandemic relocation, you know, starting in 78 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: March of twenty twenty, is now a full fledged exodus 79 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: from some of the major cities to go into Miami. 80 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: So to be the first national exchange in the history 81 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: of our country to open up in Miami, I'm so excited, 82 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: and to be in partnership with Bloomberg Trump. 83 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: Really eating volume has increased three hundred percent from before 84 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: the pandemic. How much of this is retail, how much 85 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: of it is like literally Jane Street. 86 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: Well, the the real focus of our business is with 87 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: the people that interact with the retail flow. So in 88 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: terms of the retail flow, it's very important to the 89 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: options business. And one of the things that's really leading 90 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: to this explosive growth is the low cost trading that's 91 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: happening all around us with people like Robinhood, Wee Bull, 92 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: and Ninja, where the customers can trade for free. So 93 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: what I'm really excited about is leveraging these relationships that 94 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: we have in multi listed options and moving into futures 95 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: products like the B five hundred with the Bloomberg team. 96 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: So and then with that futures exchange that we have, 97 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: I think we can get that wave of retail futures 98 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: engagement with the best technology in the world that was 99 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: only launched thirty days ago. 100 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: Tom the exchange area has quite a few players. Now 101 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: you know Memes obviously, you know nicely where you you 102 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: are in the NASAC and so on. You know, are 103 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: some of the older ones. How do you compete? Do 104 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: you compete on price? Is there a time when it 105 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: will get saturated? 106 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: You know, in the beginning, I competed on price, I 107 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: competed on access fees, trying to be a low operator 108 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: because it was all about getting market share the rocket 109 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: fuel for an exchange's market share. 110 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: Unless your exchange. 111 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: Group gets the five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten percent 112 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: of market share, no one wants to connect to you. 113 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: But once you get them here, My whole idea was 114 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: get them into our exchange group, get them comfortable, have 115 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: a great experience, and now I'm not competing. 116 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: I'm not competing on price. 117 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm not competing because we have equity ownership by some 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: of the largest market makers. When I'm competing on is technology. 119 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: Everything changed for us on March thirteenth, twenty twenty, when 120 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: the pandemic hit. President Trump goes out in the Oval Office, 121 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: comes out on the lawn and say, this is a 122 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: national pandemic. 123 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: Well, guess what. 124 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: The market's exploded on March sixteenth. Volatility was all over 125 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: the place. Well, I built the church for Easter Sunday. 126 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: We had the infrastructure in place where that volatility was 127 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 2: going to hit. The difference between our customers interaction and 128 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: some of our competing exchanges was game change. From that 129 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: day to today, we've grown dramatically. In fact, from the 130 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: second half of twenty the first half of twenty sixteen 131 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: to the first half of this year, we've grown over 132 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: one thousand basis points of market share, and guess who 133 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: the donors were? The Big three, Nasdaq, Cibo, and some 134 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: from the New York Stock Exchange. Although I'm so proud 135 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: to be listening today on the New York Stock Exchange, 136 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: I have a lot of respect for Lynn Martin. She's 137 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: been a graciss host today and that's how competition should be. 138 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: Should be fierce, but it can be friendly. And I'm 139 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: very gratified to be here today. 140 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: Well, Tom, the Halls of Commerce, thank you so much 141 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: for granting us your time and congratulations once again. That 142 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: is Thomas Gallagher, Miami International Holdings Chairman and CEO,