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Speaker 1: I'll dive into something I saw tonight. Uh, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: and um and yeah, and we'll take your listener questions

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Speaker 1: he's not even accurate. He's out of the league. He's cut.

426
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 1: He passed through waivers. He's just not an NFL player again,

427
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: his career, if it ends right now and listen, he

428
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: might bounce around a practice squad or two. It's one

429
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: of the crazier fall from graces I've ever seen. He

430
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a second round picking what he was the tenth

431
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. I gotta give the Cardinals credit

432
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: because not only did they pivot, they pivoted quickly, and

433
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: they got a quarterback who listen, Kyler Murray. We'll see

434
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: if he ever becomes like a Pro Bowl level guy.

435
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: He's clearly really talented, and on his worst day, he's

436
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: better than Josh Rosen. On his best day, Josh Rosen

437
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: can't beat out Nate Sudfeld. Remember Date Sudfeld, the guy

438
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: that the Eagles put in Week seventeen and the Internet

439
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 1: basically waged World War Three that the Eagles were throwing

440
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: the game. Sometimes, when I see Nate Sudfeld at Niner practice,

441
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: all I can think about was, like the Internet viewed

442
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: you as the guy the Eagles used to tank. You're

443
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: the guy that the Internet thought you suck so much

444
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: did they put you in the game to try to lose?

445
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: That's the guy that Josh Rosen could not beat out,

446
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: not to be the backup, not to be the starter,

447
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: to be the third string quarterback for the forty niners.

448
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: And right now it feels like it's over, which is insanity.

449
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: And it just gets back to there is no such

450
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: thing as high floor in sports. There is absolutely no

451
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: such thing. There's high ceilings, and certain guys have higher

452
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: ceilings than other guys. There is no floor. It does

453
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: not exist because you are dealing with human beings. Trent

454
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: Richardson is a good example. Even if you weren't the

455
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: biggest Trent Richardson fan, you would have been like, well,

456
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: I would be able to play in the league. For

457
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,239
Speaker 1: a long time, it was clear, like two years in

458
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: he's not a good player. He's slower than molasses. He

459
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: stinks it's eye opening to see, but when you see it,

460
00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: you know it, and it's just it's over for osen. Crazy.

461
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: A couple other things that stood out to me last

462
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: week or this week. I tried to watch Hard Knocks.

463
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't make it through five minutes of the second episode. Now,

464
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: the last several years, I watched the show for you

465
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people like it, and

466
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: I want to be informed in what's going on, and

467
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: I like football, so it's give me a reality show

468
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: for an hour. Some f bombs, some touchdowns, some people

469
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: yelling at each other. It wasn't easy watch. I think

470
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: it's never been worse. I don't think it's very exciting anymore.

471
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: I don't think it's very interesting. I find it boring.

472
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: And a huge element of that is the team's now

473
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: run it. HBO has no juice. They just film it

474
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: and they're told what they're allowed or not allowed to

475
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: put out, which I find things on team run YouTube accounts.

476
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,479
Speaker 1: Like the Indianapolis Colts. They have run a draft series

477
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: now for several years that is fantastic. Even if they're

478
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: given me you know, probably the uh, you know, the

479
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: g rated version of the draft conversations. I get to

480
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: go in their draft room meeting. I get to watch

481
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: Ballard and Frank discussed players, their scouts talk about guys.

482
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: It's cool. The Jets did a lead up this year

483
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: to the draft, or I guess it might have been

484
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: the season. I don't even remember. They did like a

485
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: four part series. Joe Douglas obviously, you know, all their

486
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: canoe coaching staff, solid the player it was just I

487
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. I'm watching the Cowboys. One of

488
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: the things Hard Knocks the Curveball they always had was

489
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: they would go into the personnel meeting room where the

490
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: coaches and the executives would talk about players because the

491
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: reality is in football, like I'm sure it's like this

492
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: in basketball and baseball. Those conversations are powerful. They can

493
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: be negative. You can be just blasting a player, he's

494
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: not good enough. We need to cut this guy, we

495
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: need to replace the replace this guy. Or they can

496
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: be informative. The second round guy, we need to get

497
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: him better, we need to get him up to speed.

498
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: You don't get any of that crap anymore. They have

499
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: xnay that out of the show, and for me, that

500
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: sucks because to me, that was a huge reason that

501
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: when I watched the show in two thousand, probably like

502
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: two thousand seven or eight, that inspired me to want

503
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: to work in football. I'm like, that is what I

504
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: want to be a part of those meetings, and I'll

505
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: never forget the first time I was allowed in at

506
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: Eagles training camp to that meeting is one of the

507
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: coolest experiences of my football career. Andy at the head

508
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: of the meeting the entire coaching staff, Howie Riddick, some

509
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: of the you know, executives going around the table and

510
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: the coaches talking. I'm like, I'm a kid in the

511
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: candy store. I obviously didn't say a word. I just

512
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: had my notepad. I don't I didn't take any note.

513
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: There wasn't I just sat there and watched. I'm like,

514
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: this is sweet. This is what I always watched on

515
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. This we don't get that anymore. What the teams.

516
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't blame the teams. They don't want that out

517
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: because if you're talking and ship about a player, it'll

518
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: just go viral on social media. They don't want that.

519
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: But that's what's really happening. So once you stop showing that,

520
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: like does hard docks really have a value anymore? Everything

521
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: comes to an end. And clearly technology has changed the game.

522
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: Fortys do a show. Hell, whatever team that you root

523
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: for that you're listening to this, your team does something

524
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: on YouTube an inside look with the coaches and the

525
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: general managers during the season, during the off season, do

526
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: we even need hard docks anymore? I'm not trying to

527
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: hate on the Cowboys. I don't blame them for trying

528
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: to be boring. All these teams the last couple of

529
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: years have tried to do that. And if your coach

530
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: is not a big enough personality like Bill O'Brien was

531
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, where he was just a

532
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: nut job, it's it's not a good watch. It's not

533
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: fun anymore. And listen, one thing we realized with reality

534
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: TV as the years went on is reality TV is

535
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: not actually reality TV right is scripted. We know all

536
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: these reality television shows Desperate not Desperate Housewives, but Housewives

537
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: of l A or whatever reality show you watch. It's

538
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: like a television show now that it's it's all fabricated,

539
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: scripted they created, and we're okay with that. We just

540
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: watch it for dumb entertainment. I think it's hard with

541
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's like this is because the actual real

542
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: stuff is happening, but we don't even feel like we're

543
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: getting it anymore. That saddens me, and I'm just I

544
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: wanted to let everyone know that I'm officially out. Hard

545
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: Knocks has lost me. And I am someone who makes

546
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: his living off talking about football, who watches, uh, I mean,

547
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: an unhealthy amount of football Friday through Monday I guess

548
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: Thursday through Monday for five months. It's literally the life

549
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: blood of my survival economically, and and they lost me.

550
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: It sucks that bad, sad. A lot of people have

551
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 1: asked me over unders, John, when are you gonna give

552
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: us some over unders so we can gamble on. I've

553
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: been thinking about this us and listen, I've been gambling

554
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: since I was probably seventeen years old. We are in California.

555
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: We have Indian casinos. Depending on where you live, right,

556
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: you might have normal casinos. Now gambling is becoming more

557
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: and more legal casinos are gonna pop up all over America.

558
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: Sad part is California. Indians have a lot of juice,

559
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: They're making a lot of money, have a lot of

560
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: political contacts. I don't think we're gonna be the last

561
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: state to have gambling be legal in but it will

562
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 1: eventually happen. There's too much money in the line. But

563
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: we used to have this cash creek. We still do.

564
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: I actually play golf there sometimes in northern California, and

565
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: it's about forty five minutes from where I grew up,

566
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: and I used to go there and play blackjack. And

567
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna find a lot of people over the next

568
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: several years. You know, the one thing that Collins talked

569
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: about gambling for like Colin gambles, a lot of people

570
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: in this space are gonna talk about gambling in the

571
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: in the sports media that you couldn't. They wouldn't put

572
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: five dollars on a game if their life depended on

573
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: They'll never gamble, but they'll do it because they think

574
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: it's cool to talk about. And that's you know, their

575
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: bosses wanted to talking, but they don't know what they're

576
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: talking about. I've been gambling for twenty years, in sports

577
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: gambling for about fifteen. I have never placed an over underbet,

578
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: but so many people have DM me like, hey, let's

579
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: pick some good over unders, let's make some over under beets.

580
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: And I really kind of looked into it and listen,

581
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: maybe closer to the season in the next couple of weeks,

582
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: I'll go through all the divisions, I'll go through all

583
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: the over unders, and I'll go over under on what

584
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: they're projected wind total is. That would be cool, But

585
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: the actual bet to place an over underbet, to me,

586
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: it's pretty stupid. Now full disclosure, like a hundred dollars.

587
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: If I've been a hundred dollars on a game. That's

588
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: probably the minimum amount of money i'd have to bet

589
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: on the game to even make it somewhat interesting. The problem,

590
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't even make it that much that interesting, So

591
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: I gotta put like five You know, I could probably

592
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: put three dollars on a game make it interesting, but

593
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: definitely five dollars. But anyone who's gambled does you can lose.

594
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: So if you're placing five dollars on a game, you

595
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: placed three or four of those, all of a sudden,

596
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: you're two k in the whole. So I gotta be

597
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: careful with my gambling. I have really pick and choose

598
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: as I get older. I actually just been gambling on

599
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: golf because I can bet less and win more. In football,

600
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: to win five dollars, you typically gotta bet five dollars. Right,

601
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: Maybe if you bet a big underdog, you might get

602
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: two to one, but the big underdog, for a reason,

603
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: they're probably not gonna win, so you probably don't want

604
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: to place those bets. I was looking at the over unders.

605
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: I actually think that's the worst bet going because if

606
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: if you're gonna win any substantial amount of money, let's

607
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: say you're gonna place five hundred dollars on the Falcons under,

608
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: which is even odds, and they're under a seven and

609
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: a half, So I gotta get five dollars September ten

610
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: or fifth, or whenever I want to place it before

611
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: the season. I don't get that money back until January whatever,

612
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: first or second or whatever the last week's seventeen ends.

613
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: So I'm out five hundred dollars for four and a

614
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: half months. At least. If I bet on a game,

615
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: or I bet on the Super Bowl odds or to

616
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: win a division, I get way better odds three four

617
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: to one, so I can four x my money. Well,

618
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: if I'm betting over unders, the odds are awful. For example,

619
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: if I wanted to take let's say I think John

620
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: Gruden's going to be a disaster this year, the Raiders

621
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: under is seven that they're over under seven, which I'd

622
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: probably take the over. I think there'll be eight nine wins.

623
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: But let's say I wanted to take the under, it's

624
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: minus one or excuse me, the excuse me. The over

625
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: seven is minus meaning if I wanted to win a

626
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, I'd have to bet and fifty dollars, so

627
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: I have to bet that in September and wait till

628
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: January to find out if I win or lose. Now,

629
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: obviously if it goes well or bad, you'll know before then,

630
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: but still that's that's a lot, but you don't get

631
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: paid out until the season ends. As a gambler. And listen,

632
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: over unders or something we all talk about, and they

633
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: are fun to talk about just from a pure wind

634
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: lost standpoint, but from an actual gambling standpoint terrible. And

635
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: let's say let's say you're gonna bet fifty dollars on

636
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: an over under, which might be a lot of money

637
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: to someone you have to wait four months for fifty bucks.

638
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: That seems insane. You might as well just put fifty

639
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: dollars on a game you like week one, find out

640
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: if you win or lose. I don't know by the

641
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: end of the weekend. So this these over unders, if

642
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: you play it, fire me a d M? Are they

643
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: Are they that fun? Like? Is it actually easier than

644
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: I think? Because I've really looked at her hard this

645
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: week and I don't find it appealing at all. Okay,

646
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: let's go a little mail bag at John Middlecoff. Is

647
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: the Instagram slide up in those d M s like

648
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: my guy John did here. Pete Carroll is getting up

649
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: there in age, and I'm not sure he is aligned

650
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: with Russell on the direction of the Seahawks. If Pete

651
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: Carroll retired at the end of this season, how attractive

652
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: would Seattle be as a destination for a top coaching town. Thanks,

653
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: keep it up. I mean I think they would be

654
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: highly desirable. I think they'd have the pick of the litter.

655
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: They have a star quarterback. They have star players, right,

656
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean DK back half the star, Bobby Wagner's star,

657
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams a star. They have a great fan base.

658
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: But again, they have a star quarterback who's in his

659
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: early thirties. They have a big time general manager. Uh. Yeah,

660
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Speaker 1: I mean I think that they would. I think they

661
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of options for sure. You mentioned Earl

662
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: Thomas and wanted to get your thoughts on him being

663
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: in the league this year. Also, Tebow should have tried

664
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Speaker 1: out as a fullback with his knowledge of the backfield.

665
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: Tried to leave a review, but Apple is probably slowing

666
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: my phone, so I need to play a new one.

667
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, Yeah, I mean he was out of the

668
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: league last year, right, Once that thing happened in Baltimore. Weird.

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Speaker 1: I don't quite know clearly, I don't know if diva

670
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: is the right word. But he just can't interact or

671
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: get along with people anymore for whatever reason, and he's

672
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: not as good. So as Doc Rivers once famously said,

673
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: you gotta be better than your problems, and it's like

674
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: a supplied demand chart. The moment your problems are bigger

675
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: than your ability, audios bye bye. You know in pro

676
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: sports they're paying you so much money. Once you become

677
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: a pain in the ass and your game starts slipping,

678
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: it's it's why guys that are high character guys that

679
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: as their game slips, they play for much longer because

680
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: people like them, people want them around. Larry Fitzgerald hasn't

681
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: been an elite player in years. Cardinals love that guy.

682
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: You know that there's something to be said about having

683
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: high character guys who were star players and keeping them around.

684
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: And the moment you start booting guys, it's usually because

685
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: sums up and I don't pretend to know what's up.

686
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: But you know, John Harbos said, like get out of here, bro.

687
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: How beneficial hasn't been for Josh Allen to have day

688
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Speaker 1: ball for three going on four years. Do you think

689
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Speaker 1: if the Bills make the playoffs again, day Ball is

690
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: gonna get a head coaching job? And could that said

691
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: Josh Allen back? Yes, it's definitely beneficial. I mean any time,

692
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: think about any situation you've had right in work, when

693
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: you work around the same people over and over again,

694
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: you have a big advantage. There's continuity. And in football

695
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: when it comes to the offensive coordinator, of course there's continuity.

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Speaker 1: Now because Josh Allen was quote unquote such a big

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00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: project that having Josh Allen, having the individual that coached

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00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: them up, I mean right there, their head coach is

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00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: not the guy coaching him on a daily basis. Now,

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00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: Sean impacts them from a mentality standpoint, From a mentality standpoint,

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00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: did I say mentality twice? From a psychological standpoint for sure,

702
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: and sets the tone and the franchise. But in terms

703
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: of x's nose and drop backs and you know, the

704
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: or the offensive philosophy and playing the position, day Ball

705
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 1: plays a huge role for sure. So yeah, it'll hurt,

706
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: but I do think it's a bigger deal like when

707
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: a when a first year, second year quarterback lose their

708
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: coordinator Josh gonna have four years under his belt. That's

709
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: that's he's played the league for a little while. So

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00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: I think once you get to a point, you should

711
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: be able to handle the guy leaving your side, right,

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00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: I'd say four or five years in the NFL, you know,

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00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: with one coordinator is a pretty long time. If the

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Speaker 1: head coach is not the coordinator, that means you're probably

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Speaker 1: gonna have success and that guy is gonna get a job.

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Speaker 1: It's like, what are the dog years? Is what? Seven years? Right?

717
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: So you know, I'd say I'd say three years with

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00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: a coordinator is like the equivalent of like that's that's

719
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: usually the max for a top flight coordinator. They usually

720
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: just become head coaches. Like eventually we move out of

721
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: our parents house, we we gotta go be a grown up,

722
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: well kind of in college, you're actually not really grown up.

723
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: You're just screwing around, drinking and eating all the time.

724
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 1: It's pretty glorious. Uh, normal life. As you get older,

725
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: it's not like that, So you actually don't become a

726
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: grown up probably till you graduate college. My question would be,

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Speaker 1: who is your Super Bowl bubble this year? Coward reference there,

728
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: keep up the good work, Will continue listening. I'm kind

729
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: of gonna ride the hits on this one. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Tampa Bay, Green Bay, Kansas City, I mean

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Speaker 1: those would be my I have a hard time seeing

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns getting the Super Bowl. I I just do,

733
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be really good. I'd say

734
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: the Chargers could be a sleeper team, but they have

735
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Speaker 1: a massive unknown at coach. They just do and Brandon

736
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: Saley highly thought of guy, but he's never coached a

737
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: game in the NFL. Now people think really highly of him.

738
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: He's sharp, he had the number one defense last year.

739
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: He has a good star young quarterback. They got star players.

740
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: Start just could be really good. But like the Browns,

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Speaker 1: can you close your eyes and visit the Chargers in

742
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'm not in the playoffs. They can make

743
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But in the Super Bowl last time they

744
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl, Natron means played Jerry Rice,

745
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, Steve Young, Ricky Waters didn't go well. Steve

746
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: Young threw six touchdowns in that game. Jerry Rice had three,

747
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Speaker 1: Ricky Waters had three. Hey John Love the pot Cardinals

748
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: over under a sitting at eight, which side would you take?

749
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Speaker 1: Also do you have any smart money picks for the

750
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Speaker 1: coach of the Year. I like Bill. I think Bill

751
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: would be a good one. I think Brandon Staley would

752
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: be a good one. Uh. If the Saints were to

753
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, I think Sean Payton could be a sleeper.

754
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: Zimmer gets them back to the playoffs, he could be

755
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: a sleeper. From Arizona moved back to Tempi from Flagstaff

756
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: favorite bar up there is Collins Irish Pub for a

757
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: great select of whiskey. Missing up there already inspired me

758
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: to start my own landscaping company, and Flagstaff can't wait

759
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: to get my own finance company started soon. Jesus, this

760
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: guy's a business. Fucking maven here. Good luck, buddy. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say the Cardinals. I like him right about eight.

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00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's kind of the sweet spot, eight, nine, seven,

763
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: kind of that range. I just have a hard time

764
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: seeing Cliff Kingsbury go like ten and seven. I I

765
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: really do. I'm a loyal Broncos fan since Elway. I

766
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: would like for you to tell me why shouldn't murder

767
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: Elway and Peyton for not trade not drafting Justin Fields.

768
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: He was in our lap at number nine and they

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Speaker 1: let him get by. I am distraught over this. I

770
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: had someone tell me today that has been going to

771
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: Broncos practice. Actually I heard it through a third person,

772
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: So this guy knows the guy who's been going to

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00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: the Broncos practice. He said, Patrick's certain is awesome. He

774
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: had the pick six in the preseason game. It's fair

775
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: to say that guy is a baller. So at least

776
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: if you are going to pass on the quarterback, you

777
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: better hit a home round with the pick. And I'm

778
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: August nineteen, so I don't know if they hit a

779
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: home around with the pick, but I feel confident that

780
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a home run. Their defense is gonna

781
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: be elite offensively, Like, yeah, I'm with you. I think

782
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: Justin Fields being there at nine is insane. How did

783
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: Justin Fields? He's six three, he could run a four four,

784
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: He's got a big arm. He was productive in college.

785
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't get it, But like listen, he wasn't George

786
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: Payton wasn't alone. Cole Shanahan didn't like him. A lot

787
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: of people, for whatever reasons, did not like Justin Fields.

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00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: I just do not, for the life of me, understand

789
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: that high character guy who played it started Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: who beat Clemson in the playoffs, who can run like

791
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: the wind, who's got a huge arm, who produced in college?

792
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: I just I I'll never be able to quite wrap

793
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: my head around that. I understand why Deshaun Watson felt

794
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: he wasn't that fast. He was a four six six guy.

795
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: He did not have a great arm. Remember when they

796
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: did the arm strength, Mahomes blew it out of the water.

797
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: De Sean had the weakest arm of his class. Like,

798
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: at least that's understandable. Mahomes going ten was understandable. Played

799
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: in the air raid. You know, he was all over

800
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: the map. He was a major project, justin fields eleven.

801
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: I sometimes I think about that and I go somethings.

802
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: Some things in life don't make sense. Like Keenan Allen.

803
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: I saw this highlight. They're practicing the Niners a day.

804
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen just smoking the Niners. Of course he is.

805
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: The Niners don't have great dbs. I get why Keenan

806
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: Allen went in the third round. He ran like a

807
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: four seven five. People thought he couldn't run. But the

808
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: thing is with Keenan Allen, the dude can just play,

809
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: but you're forty time because like we always talk about

810
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: in here, where the draft is a marketplace and and

811
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: individual attributes determine your market value for the draft. And

812
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: when you run a slower forty, you fall in the

813
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: draft a little bit. Davantae Adams, his his college tape

814
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: was elite. He was unreal. Then he ran like a

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00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: four or five eight, So he went in the second round. Now,

816
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: clearly he should have been like a top ten pick,

817
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: but because he ran slowly, went a little later. Same

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00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: with Keenan out those guys can play. Isn't it crazy

819
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: that probably the three best wide receivers last year DeVante's

820
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: second rounder, Keenan third rounder, Digs fifth rounder. Don't let

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00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 1: him tell you it's where you start, because that's essence.

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00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: It's not true. It does not determine your success. Now,

823
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: getting drafted high does help you get more chances. But

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00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: the NFL, unlike the other sports, you can be drafted

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00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: in the sixth round and become an all pro. Happens

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Speaker 1: all the time I'm watching. I got the Eagles game

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Speaker 1: on the back. I mean, Jason Kelsey, I think my

828
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: second year there was a six round pick. I'm gonna

829
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Speaker 1: go down was one of the greatest Eagles of all time, right,

830
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: like ultimately him and Fletcher their careers. Like one guy

831
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: got drafted top fifteen, the other guy got drafted late

832
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Speaker 1: in the draft. Maybe he was a fifth round pick.

833
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: But it just shows you it's the smart about the

834
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: league is that you can get drafted all over and

835
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: become a star. It's really it's really what kind of

836
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: separates the NFL. I think there's a dude for the Eagles.

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00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: They're starting left tackle is a dude from the Australian

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00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: Rugby League. Pretty crazy. That's another thing. It's when does

839
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: that ever happen? Good job coaching them up there. Okay,

840
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: have a great weekend, shoot me d MS at John

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Speaker 1: Middle Conference the Instagram and we'll go from there.