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Speaker 1: The Volume.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkins and Jones on The Volume podcast network.

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Speaker 2: It is Sunday, May seventh, and here we are. We

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Speaker 2: just got to watch two incredible basketball games today. Playoffs

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Speaker 2: have continued to just be amazing. We are live on

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Speaker 2: Amazon AMP Sunday night. We'll be live Wednesday after the

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Speaker 2: games as well. Obviously, if you're listening to this on AMP,

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Speaker 2: we appreciate you. Drop some comments, you know whatnot. We're

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Speaker 2: trying to get you involved. And if you listen to

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Speaker 2: it Monday on the other platforms, we appreciate you too.

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Speaker 2: So thanks for listening either way. As always, Jenkis and

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Speaker 2: Jones hosted by Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, have a good.

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Speaker 2: Jethro Jenkins aka John Wells amp Bubba. I'm Cardi baka

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Speaker 2: Mike mother fucking my mother, fucking my bro.

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Speaker 4: I had a little bowl in my throat outside. I

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Speaker 4: sounded like the WB PROG.

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Speaker 5: Brother fucking mite.

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Speaker 2: That was gross.

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Speaker 5: It's not like I wanted you. You know, you are handsome, though,

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe I got caught up in it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. All right, let's talk about Let's start

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Speaker 2: with that Son's Nuggets game we just watched. Masterclass. I

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Speaker 2: just retweeted someone who called it spiritual, like you see

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Speaker 2: you saw after Game three, I think Book went well,

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Speaker 2: like fifteen to twenty five or something crazy, and we

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Speaker 2: all said, like, okay, but can they do that again?

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Speaker 2: That's how narrow their path to victory is that they're

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Speaker 2: gonna need performances like that from booking KD well tonight

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Speaker 2: thirty six points from each of them on eleven and

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Speaker 2: nineteen shooting from KD fourteen of eighteen shooting from Book.

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Speaker 2: I just texted you all the stat thirty four of

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Speaker 2: forty three from Book in his last two playoff games.

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Speaker 2: This is some unreal shit, Tyler. Are you just like

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Speaker 2: injecting this shit into your veins?

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Speaker 3: At this point, we are seeing postseason run for the

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Speaker 3: ages from Devin Bucker. Since the playoffs started in on

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Speaker 3: fucking that second week in April, he's been the best

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Speaker 3: fucking player basketball player on the planet. It's just been

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Speaker 3: surreal to watch. I want to personally apologize though, to

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Speaker 3: to Landry because I have been Yeah, because I've been talking.

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Speaker 5: He apologized. I would apologize if you're.

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Speaker 4: A about that nigga chi yeah Grimy as his friends

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Speaker 4: called him.

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Speaker 3: I want to just say, you know, because bro, he

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Speaker 3: was someone who I called out by name, and I

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Speaker 3: didn't have anything against the dude. I'm just like, Bro,

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Speaker 3: you just got Booker and KD and and Landry. SAT's

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Speaker 3: gonna be the reinforcements off the bench. And that motherfucker

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Speaker 3: was amazing tonight. Like they don't win this game without

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Speaker 3: that fourth quarter from him. He had three three straight

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Speaker 3: back to back to back at four threes that whole quarter.

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Speaker 3: He callsed Yolkish to cough it up on that jump

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Speaker 3: all that Phoenix one that pretty much locked the game up. Like,

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Speaker 3: they do not win this motherfucker with out Landry. So

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Speaker 3: you know, I was I have been wrongest about how

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Speaker 3: the Sons have been going about this.

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Speaker 5: Sies.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, you know, the Booker and KD and

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Speaker 3: Landry Shammon ain't gonna fucking do it for you.

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Speaker 2: But right you see, So Landry Shammitt nineteen points in

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Speaker 2: thirty minutes tonight, huge huge lift for him. As Tyler said,

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Speaker 2: did you hear the interview with book after the game

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Speaker 2: when they brought up you know, like, hey, you have

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Speaker 2: guys who haven't necessarily played the most who are stepping

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Speaker 2: up and Book. I mean, I respect that alpha dog mentality.

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Speaker 2: Was like, hey, we're playing with me and Kevin, Me

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Speaker 2: and KAD. Guys are getting open looks like you you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you're an NBA player, All

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Speaker 2: you got to do is step in an open shot

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Speaker 2: and make the shit. But like, in response to that question,

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Speaker 2: his response was about Kd's gravity basically, and about but

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Speaker 2: this is what we've all talked about, man, Like, you

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Speaker 2: can't be in a better situation as a shooter than

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Speaker 2: to have two other scorers that can draw double teams

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Speaker 2: on your team because it's not that many guys on

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Speaker 2: the defense if they're trying to double two other dudes,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So shout out to Landry

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Speaker 2: Shammon for sure, But I think seeing Katie and Book

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Speaker 2: I think all three of us didn't know if they

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Speaker 2: the last I mean, shout out to Monny Williams for sure,

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Speaker 2: But they're playing this shit through the eye of a

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Speaker 2: needle man. I mean that, as insane as it is

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Speaker 2: to look at this stat line, that shit feels repeatable,

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Speaker 2: and they spoil a fifty three, eleven and four game

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Speaker 2: from Jogesh twenty at thirty Joe Murray thirteen at twenty

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Speaker 2: five for twenty eight points. Like, the Nuggets didn't play bad,

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Speaker 2: The Sun's just found a superhuman level of basketball that

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Speaker 2: they might be able to repeat two more times in

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Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, yeah, I mean you have to

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Speaker 3: wonder though, like when is the gas gonna run out

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Speaker 3: on KTE like we've seen, you know, in previous series.

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Speaker 3: But doesn't fucking matter if Bucker has just leveled up

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Speaker 3: so much, right, Like, so what the gas wins out

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Speaker 3: on KD and he only gives you twenty five, Booker's

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Speaker 3: probably gonna give you fucking forty.

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Speaker 5: Two, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: Called a pedestrian. They're called thirty points pedestrian on the broadcast.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, you know it's what we said from

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Speaker 3: the start of this of the fucking playoffs, we are

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Speaker 3: gonna have to evaluate this team on the fly because

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Speaker 3: they played eight games together. We do not know, you know, exactly,

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, some games you just see the

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Speaker 3: flaws just so loud, and it's like, bro, you know

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Speaker 3: they're gonna get ran out the gym this series, and

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Speaker 3: then you get back to back games like this, and

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Speaker 3: then it's like, okay, well, I don't know what the

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Speaker 3: fuck to make out of this team.

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Speaker 4: Okay you I'm not supposed to say something. Y'all know,

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Speaker 4: I didn't watch this fucking game. What I'm gonna say is.

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Speaker 5: I promise I'll watch the game five, all right. I

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Speaker 5: was watching Denis Layer.

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Speaker 4: I'll put the anime away, I'll save the cutting rocks

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Speaker 4: with with swards till after the game next time.

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Speaker 5: I told I really wasn't that interested in the series.

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Speaker 4: I didn't really believe in the suns. I wasn't saying

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Speaker 4: a lot from KD. You told me Katie was actually

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Speaker 4: talking shit this game, like he actually cared, you know,

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Speaker 4: Hamron and Mace as soon as the buzzer ended.

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Speaker 5: Dog See, he didn't seem like he was.

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Speaker 4: It didn't seem like he was really odd the way

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Speaker 4: bought in and even the series prior, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, And so like, yo, I'll tap in.

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Speaker 5: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna watch game five be grudging until you

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Speaker 4: told me that shit. I love a Katie talking shit,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and playing his best basketball,

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Speaker 4: So I promise I won't leave y'all hanging next time.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't think he is.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he wasn't dialed in. I think the

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Speaker 2: Sons were figuring it out. And we talked about on

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Speaker 2: the last couple episodes how important it clearly is for

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Speaker 2: teams to have figured it out. Well, they got Mini Williams,

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Speaker 2: they got a head coach that can help them figure

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Speaker 2: things out. You lose Chris Paul and he makes a

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Speaker 2: coaching adjustment. Okay, we got Campaign in there. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: pick up the pace. We're gonna get up the court faster.

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Speaker 2: Is Campaign Chris Paul? No, But we can use his

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Speaker 2: skills in a complimentary way to these other guys. And

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Speaker 2: it's been refreshing to see a move like that I do.

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Speaker 2: Before we get off this game and talk about maybe

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Speaker 2: a lack of head coaching in another series, we have

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Speaker 2: to talk about the owner. Who's the Sun's owner? Is

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Speaker 2: that Matt ish bea Ishiba? Yeah, something like that, something

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 5: This right, even if you're wrong, they got I don't

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Speaker 5: know how to pronounce that.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, stood up. You know he's got the basketball

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Speaker 2: on the sitting court. Side, it bounces over to him.

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Speaker 2: He holds it up in the air like he's playing

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Speaker 2: keep away. Jokic is snatching the shit out of his

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Speaker 2: hand and then gives him a little forearm shiver to

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Speaker 2: put him back in his seat. They teat Jokic up,

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Speaker 2: but Chuck just said it on inside the NBA like

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Speaker 2: if that's any other fan, They tossed that dude out

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Speaker 2: of the building. Bro, you can't just play keep away

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Speaker 2: with the basketball with the two time MVP weirdo.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just annoyed at the flop because this

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Speaker 3: dude grew up in He is a forty five year

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Speaker 3: old due from Michigan. You hear, forty five year old

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Speaker 3: hoops fan from Michigan. You know this motherfucker grew up

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Speaker 3: on the bad boys, right, This motherfucker grew up on

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Speaker 3: the bad boys and you out here flopping.

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Speaker 5: Bro, Come on, man, I do not.

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Speaker 2: They from a Russian do what you gotta do to win?

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Speaker 5: Brother? You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I grew up on t I I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with Yogah getting a fine or whatever. It

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Speaker 3: ain't my motherfucking money. But if no suspension, we do

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Speaker 3: not need that ship, bro, please because the rule book

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Speaker 3: said the rule book says if any like contact with

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Speaker 3: a fan is an automatic suspension, and where you know

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Speaker 3: where they're gonna draw the line there.

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Speaker 5: On to be a fan. If you didn't get suspended

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Speaker 5: for that ship, you know what I mean, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: That would be the nastiest ship ever if they suspend yok,

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Speaker 2: that would be truly the most agenda driven nasty ship

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Speaker 5: I would lie about how I'm done with this league

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Speaker 5: if they do that Republican round ball for real.

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Speaker 2: But also, man, like, you're the owner. You know NBA

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Speaker 2: guys like to sit on the court instead of in

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Speaker 2: the suite. I get it. I'd rather shit on the

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Speaker 2: court and say the sweet too. Don't get into ship

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Speaker 2: with I mean, come on, man, like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you're right, man, he flopped like a motherfucker

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Speaker 2: to something ship ever you're trying to get him thrown out? Bro?

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Speaker 3: For really, you know you're the owner of the squad

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Speaker 3: of your ass on the floor, get your weak assing,

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Speaker 3: your dusty ass on the floor. Come on, man, that's

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Speaker 3: a fucking pride. Any motherfucker in that building like a bitch,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this seventeen seventy six Ers versus Boston

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Speaker 2: Celtics game. I don't really even know where to start,

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Speaker 2: but I will start by saying this, This is what

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Speaker 2: this is exactly what I talked about with the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: Your head coach's thing cannot be that he does not

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Speaker 2: call timeouts.

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Speaker 5: To coach, you're not killing Jackie.

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Speaker 2: That's not a signature move, right, And when you end

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Speaker 2: up with Marcus Smart taking a shot at the end

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Speaker 2: of regulation with the I mean he's open for sure,

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Speaker 2: but it's a brick you get. And then you get

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Speaker 2: into overtime. You're down by one point with eleven seconds left,

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Speaker 2: and you don't get a shot off. First of all,

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Speaker 2: they walk the ball up the court to take one

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Speaker 2: last shot instead of pushing it to get too possessions

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Speaker 2: Like you're only down by one, you miss a shot,

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Speaker 2: you foul, they make both free throws. You still have

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Speaker 2: a chance to send it to double overtime without any

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Speaker 2: weird shit happening. I don't understand what the fucking mentality

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Speaker 2: is of just saying my signature coaching thing is I'm

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Speaker 5: I think I've got an unpopular opinion here. I see

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think, oh no, no, no, hear me out,

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Speaker 3: I think there's some merit. I think there's something advantageous to,

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Speaker 3: to get situated. I think that there is something advantageous

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Speaker 3: to just attacking a defense when they don't have time

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Speaker 3: to get set. And we got to remember it, Bro,

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Speaker 3: this this, I know, fucking Tatum and Jaler only like

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Speaker 3: twenty five, twenty six, But this is a veteran Celtics squad,

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Speaker 3: Like for the last seven years they had four conference

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Speaker 3: finals runs a finals run, like, Bro, Like, these are

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Speaker 5: I'm not mad.

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Speaker 3: I'm not mad at a coach trusting these guys because

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Speaker 3: we were just half a second away from that shit.

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Speaker 5: Working right.

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Speaker 3: If Marcus Smart got that motherfucker that much quicker, then

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Speaker 3: he's a fucking genius, right.

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Speaker 4: But you don't need that half a second if your

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Speaker 4: coach draw up a play, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: to get your guy open.

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Speaker 5: Another thing is is this is the this is the playoffs, bro.

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Speaker 3: It usually shakes down to your third best guy being

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Speaker 3: the whole game plan is is anybody but insert franchise

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Speaker 5: Opponent like that's that's that's how the playoffs work. We

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Speaker 5: we've seen it in the games. Big players make big players.

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Speaker 5: That's why we talk about it so much. You know

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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened to calling a time out

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Speaker 4: and get it into your best player's hands and letting

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we like but I think I see Tyler's point.

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Speaker 2: If you have a matchup, but that's teams that team

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Speaker 2: that was.

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Speaker 4: Already back, that the team had already got back on defense,

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. It was what after what?

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And overtime you know they had what twelve fifteen seconds

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Speaker 4: something like that. You know, that's a you have enough

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Speaker 4: time to get a really good playoff and get open shot.

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Speaker 4: If you're a coach, like like like Mike said, if

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Speaker 4: you're this is when they need you to coach the most,

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Speaker 4: and you decide, Hey, I'm gonna let you figure it out.

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Speaker 4: And I and Bro, we just saw in the beginning

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Speaker 4: where in the in the regulation where Marcus Smart was

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Speaker 4: the guy that took the last shot, and I understand,

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Speaker 4: like he's the third best guy, you need that. But Bro,

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Speaker 4: at the end of the game, you want the ball

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Speaker 4: in your best player's hands. You want him to get

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Speaker 4: that shot off. And I just don't know why that

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Speaker 5: I said.

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Speaker 3: It's in the playoffs. The defensive strategy is anybody but

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Speaker 3: the best guy on the other team. Is the same

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Speaker 3: reason Jordan Poole shot that bullshit because Steph was doubled.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Jordan Poole shot that with ten seconds left.

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Speaker 4: That was a bad decision, all right, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean? And before that, we just saw hard and

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Speaker 4: take a big shot.

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Speaker 5: Before that, Hart had the ball in his hands there too.

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Speaker 3: Didn't take that shot up out of a time out though, No, no,

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying right before that we saw hard and

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Speaker 3: take the big shot, right, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: we have.

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Speaker 2: But I think that But to me, I think that's

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Speaker 2: the point is Phil Jackson's nasty asses talked about this,

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Speaker 2: They prepared for that, They knew what they were looking

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Speaker 2: for and doing at the end of a game if

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Speaker 2: they didn't call it time out. The Celtics did not

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Speaker 2: look to me like that was the case, Tyler, you know,

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Speaker 2: and that and kilosophically, that's where you're at. You know

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Speaker 2: what you're attacking. I'm with that one hundred percent, Like

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Speaker 2: you have the right players, obviously that shit could be lethal.

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Speaker 2: But when you end up with the last second kickout

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Speaker 2: to market smart, I mean that's Tatum was trying to

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Speaker 2: go to the rim, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 2: they didn't have that drawn up. That wasn't like what

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Speaker 2: they were hunting, and it was the same thing that

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Speaker 2: you come down with eleven seconds left, you don't get

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Speaker 2: a shot off. But the thing with me, if you

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Speaker 2: have rim squad, if you have the squad to do

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Speaker 2: that shit, cool, But if you don't have the squad

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Speaker 2: or you don't have the coaching to do it. You

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Speaker 2: end up with a sitchuation like not getting a shot

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Speaker 2: off when you have eleven seconds down one and overtime.

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Speaker 4: This is fucking but also like also like you know

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Speaker 4: why you got a guy who's pressing, try to get

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Speaker 4: to the cup, bro, get to a spot and get

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Speaker 4: a shot off.

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Speaker 5: Tatum. You know at the time he made his movie

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Speaker 5: that was like what six seconds.

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Speaker 4: Left, my nigga, There's no time to try to look

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Speaker 4: and create for others. Get to a spot, get a

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Speaker 4: shot off. That's what you have now at this point,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And to me, I'm looking

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Speaker 4: like why is the time out of being not being called?

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Speaker 4: I thought about that in the regulation like dog draw

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Speaker 4: play up and get it to your best player and make.

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Speaker 2: As you said, get your best player in the right mindset,

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Speaker 2: looking for the right opportunity, right, But but it just there.

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Speaker 4: He makes it, he makes a move and there's a

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Speaker 4: bell out if he has that too, But you gotta

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Speaker 4: get in there and pull that motherfucker cupboard out and

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Speaker 4: makes him and make some decisions. And he hasn't done that,

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Speaker 4: and we and do like I understand maybe at the

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Speaker 4: first half, like in the regulation, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: or if you have numbers or something, I don't call

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Speaker 4: the time out if you have numbers, right, But you

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Speaker 4: saw it in the regulation, you didn't get the shot.

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Speaker 5: You necessarily wanted, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: So why would you do the exact same thing again?

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Speaker 4: You feel me if you want Marcus Smart taking that shot?

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Speaker 5: Hello Jackson.

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Speaker 2: How many games does your head coach cost you in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs by not calling a timeout when the opposing

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Speaker 2: team was on a run to a race a lead,

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Speaker 2: or by the shit.

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Speaker 6: Today, Uh, probably two already and they've lost four four.

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Speaker 2: That's fucking brutal. Like that is truly nuts, bro, And

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Speaker 2: I like and I'm with what Tyler. I'm totally with

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Speaker 2: what Tyler said. But what they did today was not that,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like to have the ball

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Speaker 2: in the hand when the buzzer goes off. It is crazy.

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Speaker 6: The end of overtime was ugly. I think the end

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Speaker 6: of regulation is fine. You're in a tie game. Tatum

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Speaker 6: has the ball in his hands, he makes a move,

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Speaker 6: gets double essentially at the elbow, and then kicks out

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Speaker 6: to a wide open Marcus smart if you're saying, if

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Speaker 6: you're playing genuine percentages, Marcus smart, but ass naked for

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Speaker 6: three is probably a similar percentage shot than Tatum over

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Speaker 6: a double team, Like honestly.

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Speaker 5: I would hope it was better than right, but.

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Speaker 6: That like that's I think it's very way like eleven

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Speaker 6: things like that's the right play in regulation. Overtime was hideous.

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Speaker 6: You can't be you can't be taking that much time.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't I agree with Tyler from a

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Speaker 6: trying to attack a team that hasn't called the time out,

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Speaker 6: but the way that they did it was really ugly,

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Speaker 6: And I think I think that it's probably on Joey

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Speaker 6: Gumball a little bit there, and it's probably a little

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Speaker 6: bit on Tatum, like you need to have a little

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Speaker 6: bit better awareness of the clock and like you don't.

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Speaker 6: He has to be aware that there isn't enough time

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Speaker 6: to let the walk it up, then make your move,

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Speaker 6: then drive, then kick out and get a shot off,

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Speaker 6: like there has to be some extra urgency.

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Speaker 7: Whether that's on him, whether that's.

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Speaker 6: On Joey Gumball, I don't know, but it was not

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Speaker 6: the prettiest, not the prettiest, last possession of overtime.

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Speaker 5: At the of Tatum calling the time out and going

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Speaker 5: back to the bench and.

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Speaker 3: Was like that that seems you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: No, Like, bro, like you see your doom walking up

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Speaker 4: the ball, you know what I'm saying, Like take it

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Speaker 4: the sweet top time outuck that you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: tome out, come on, come over here.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: When you when he's driving and like there's you might

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Speaker 6: something maybe you don't want to blow miracle play like Tatum,

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Speaker 6: you're not called time out with one second left.

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Speaker 7: That's not valuable anyways.

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Speaker 6: When he's walking it up and you're like, okay, there's

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Speaker 6: no urgency here, they don't have anything, Like there's not

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Speaker 6: If there's no urgency and there's no matchm advantage, then

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Speaker 6: that's that's where your time out is valuable. Like it

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Speaker 6: would be valuable theoretically to go against the Knazet defense

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Speaker 6: if there is urgency or if you have a someone's

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Speaker 6: on the wrong switch you have a round matchup somewhere,

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Speaker 6: like that's where it makes sense. But when it's like slow,

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Speaker 6: Like you could call a time out with seven seconds

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Speaker 6: left and get plenty of good shots.

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Speaker 4: Tatum drove when he was Triple Team Nigga, that defense

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Speaker 4: was set like a motherfucker. He drove it to the

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Speaker 4: teething at motherfucker right and.

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Speaker 6: Like and doing that and again in the same way

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Speaker 6: that the end of regulation shot was a good shot,

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Speaker 6: getting Tatum to drive and collapse the defense entirely on

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Speaker 6: to kick out to an open shooter, even if market

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Speaker 6: smart's not like steph hurry, but like an open an

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Speaker 6: open shooter is finally, but doing it with two seconds

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Speaker 6: left is the problem.

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Speaker 7: That's where like the coaching element I think comes in.

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Speaker 2: So how confident are you in your squad at this

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Speaker 2: moment given this situation, Like if you're in a close game,

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Speaker 2: you just like you're down by three automatically, is what

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Speaker 2: it feels like to me, Like are you yeah? Are

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Speaker 2: you shaking this off? Or you nervous?

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Speaker 5: Because you weren't as worried about this.

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Speaker 2: Series as most Celtics fans I knew were worried about

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Speaker 2: it before the playoffs started.

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Speaker 6: I I'm not that worried. I think that to get

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Speaker 6: to get to this point where I am worried about

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Speaker 6: the end of games that are close. Yes, and I

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Speaker 6: think that will come into play frankly more in it.

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Speaker 2: In the NBA playoffs, you think, for example, but I

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Speaker 2: think in this second round, I don't know, Like it's

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Speaker 6: What did it take? It took James Harden to put

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Speaker 6: up another forty point game? How many times has he

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Speaker 6: done that in the playoffs?

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Speaker 7: Like ever? Like twice?

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Speaker 6: And it took Jason Tatum going oh for his first

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Speaker 6: seven like he and he was great in the second half,

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Speaker 6: to be clear, also he was excellent in the second half.

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Speaker 7: But like to even get to this point.

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00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 6: Where we were in this dire situation in Philadelphia, you feel.

437
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,880
Speaker 2: But you feel like Harden going off and Tatum kind

438
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,199
Speaker 2: of pooping himself. Is that preposterous of a thing? That

439
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,360
Speaker 2: happened two more times?

440
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,560
Speaker 5: Bro, I mean, he didn't poop them. So I'll say this.

441
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 5: I'll say this, Tatum didn't poop himself.

442
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,679
Speaker 2: Zero shots, made zero shots in the first half.

443
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 4: Not when it mattered, though you feel what I'm saying

444
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 4: so like, I mean has some big I mean so

445
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 4: like I mean, but I will say this, I wonder

446
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 4: about Tatum, Like I feel like I thought Tatum could

447
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,000
Speaker 4: be like the like like the KD.

448
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 5: Like I told you we're talking about this, like the

449
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 5: type of start.

450
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 4: Is guaranteed thirty you know who we've seen bron KD

451
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,439
Speaker 4: Kawhi when he plays Giannis, who are guaranteed to be

452
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 4: look like the best selves in the biggest moments, right.

453
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 5: And then there's like and B A.

454
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 4: D who are great, great, great, great players, you know,

455
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 4: MVP quality players when they're you know, when they're their best,

456
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 4: but they not guarantee to be their best. And I

457
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 4: wonder what type of I mean, Tatum's what twenty four

458
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 4: he's been in league what six years?

459
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

460
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 4: Very fair but but yeah, exactly, But I'm one I'm

461
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 4: wondering that now because like like bro as good as

462
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 4: good as he was in the second half, like you said,

463
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 4: you can't have that first half as Tatum as the

464
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 4: best player on that team.

465
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 5: And also, and we talked.

466
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 4: About this too, you know, he's the best player on

467
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 4: that team, we think, you know what I'm saying, by

468
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 4: a good amount. And he hasn't been the best player

469
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, you know what I mean. So it's

470
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 4: been Jalen, so I I question where he's heading. There's

471
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 4: times when I've seen him like last year was the

472
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 4: first time I look at him like, Okay, he's a god.

473
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 4: There's days when completely he might be the best player

474
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 4: in the league. But you can't have, you know, moments

475
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 4: like this if you're that type of player. And and

476
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 4: you know, I question about Tatum. As much as I

477
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 4: love him, I'll be a fan forever, you know what

478
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying, But yeah, that first half was bad, and

479
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 4: that that quarter, like the end of that game.

480
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 5: You're driving into the teeth of the defense late and

481
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 5: that's just not you.

482
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 4: You're setting yourself up to to not get a good

483
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 4: shot or not get a shot off at all, you

484
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

485
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, here's what I'll.

486
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 6: When I think, what I'll say about Tatum is there's

487
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 6: been a lot of talk in years, for years now

488
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 6: about Tatum versus Booker, and I think last year, because

489
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 6: the Southeast made the finals and Tatum was so good

490
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 6: until the finals, that it was like, Okay, Tatum is

491
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 6: clearly better than Devin Booker. And I think I still

492
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 6: think he is better than Devin Booker, even though Devin

493
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 6: Booker is having a much much, much better playoffs.

494
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 7: But the one thing that Devin.

495
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 6: Booker does, I feel like that Tatum doesn't do as

496
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 6: much as he as this Kyrie KD Like I'm a hooper,

497
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go iso, pull up, get a bucket anytime

498
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 6: I want. Sort of like I hate to like use

499
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 6: the cliches like this, but it feels like he has

500
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 6: a little bit more of like that dog ISOs mentality does. Yeah,

501
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 6: and so like just to your point, just exactly what

502
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 6: John's point is, Like, if Devin Booker is in a

503
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 6: situation where they're down one with ten seconds left, he's

504
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 6: not driving to the teeth of the defense. He's going

505
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 6: cross cross, cross, sidestep, pull up, pull up, tough too,

506
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 6: and like exact spot right, And maybe that's not a

507
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 6: better play it depends on the defense. It's better he's

508
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 6: getting a shot for himself. That's a high quality look

509
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 6: because that because he's a tough shot maker, and Tatum

510
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 6: could do that. He has the tough shot making, the

511
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 6: qualities that he's taller, he has as good of a

512
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 6: bag as Devin Booker.

513
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 7: He has all the all the game.

514
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 6: He just sometimes I feel like he's not he's I

515
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 6: don't know if it's overthinking it or not organized enough

516
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 6: by the coaching staff or what it is, but it

517
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 6: feels like Can overcomplicates it.

518
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 4: Sometimes he's not as decisive in moments where you need

519
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 4: to be decisive in that moment. You gotta be like Nigga,

520
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 4: six second, four seconds left, whatever, I gotta get a

521
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 4: shot off.

522
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 5: Let me get into my shit and get to my spot. Period.

523
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: That's one thing Kawhi Brian Katie did. You can't keep

524
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 4: them off they spot. They're gonna get to their fucking spot.

525
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 4: What is his spot? Does he know where to go

526
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 4: in into the game to get that fucking shot or

527
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 4: what to do to get a shot off?

528
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 5: I don't know yet. You know what I'm saying.

529
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 4: He has to figure that shit out, bro, because what

530
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 4: we just saw, we are not going to see.

531
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 5: Like you said, Books gonna get it, Books gonna get

532
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 5: that shot off, Bro, You know.

533
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. And give him a fucking chance. He's

534
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 4: not driving to the tef of the defense triple team.

535
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 5: Give it to a.

536
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 4: Marcus Smart a half a second late. Nigga, you had

537
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 4: more than enough time. You didn't even need that half

538
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 4: a second you feel what I'm saying.

539
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: So all right, Jackson's not worried. Six Ers fan. Jackson

540
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: is not worried.

541
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 5: He has too healthy of a relationship with basketball. You

542
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 5: don't need to ask Jackson questions. Bro.

543
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 4: If they lose, he'll be hurt, but he'll be fine tomorrow. Nigga,

544
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be sick three weeks, right, you know.

545
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 7: I think it's Celtic.

546
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 5: Okay.

547
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 6: I think they win Game five by seventeen ish points,

548
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 6: and they win Game six in a close one to

549
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 6: prove everyone Wrongatum's.

550
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 7: Got a coup. He's got that dog. The x Rays come.

551
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: Down, Jason Tatum will prove that he is him in games,

552
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: will be more himmed. Hey, there's things in the world

553
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: that are funny, and there's things in the world that

554
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: are not funny. And then there are also things in

555
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: the world that are funny but that are wrapped around

556
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: things that are not funny. And I would say that

557
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 2: things that are not funny include shootings and the horrific

558
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: situation we're in in this country. Things that are funny

559
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: would be Mark Jones over a shot of a recently

560
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: paralyzed shooting survivor that James Harden brought to the game tonight,

561
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: Mark Jones saying, quote after a made three by James Harden,

562
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: I believe midway through the second quarter of the game,

563
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: Mark Jones said, that's the best medicine that he could

564
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: ask for. Hey man, listen, I've been in pre production

565
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: meetings for TV broadcasts. You know that they're gonna have

566
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: a featurette on this dude being at the game, right

567
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: maybe just riff off a couple one liners that sounds

568
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: something a little more like what a special moment for

569
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: this young man after everything he's been through. Or I

570
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: can't imagine how motivating it is for Harden to do

571
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: this in front of his special guests tonight. But not

572
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: that's the best medicine that he could ask for. Come on, dog,

573
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: that is the shit. That is the worst shit. That

574
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: is the worst possible shit, you could say, the worst

575
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: of medicine.

576
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: I mean, now we're gonna just talk about how shitty

577
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: our healthcare system is too. On top of him, you know,

578
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: the shooting epidemic. We have to We're gonna drag thattitude

579
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 3: it right now, right Like, No, that's the worst, That's

580
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: the worst possible ship. He could have said right there, man,

581
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 3: he be.

582
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 5: Saying some wild ship too though you know what I'm saying.

583
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 4: Stripped him clean, like he was saying, he say something

584
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 4: like it wasn't stripped.

585
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 5: They said some other word. It just said. That's nigga.

586
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 5: It doesn't have to be said in that way. But

587
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 5: now that you when you talk about that was because

588
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 5: of the ad buk when he like swallowed that.

589
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: One swallowed him whole or something he said.

590
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 5: He said it was something, he said something, something something.

591
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 5: Niggas will know when they hear it. Some people somebody

592
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 5: might tweets and self. But you see how you're saying

593
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 5: some other out of pocket ship but that I'm like, nigga, bro,

594
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 5: come on, I mean, that's the thing you write down

595
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 5: that I can't say this. You know what I mean?

596
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 4: You remind yourself before the broadcast not to say this

597
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: dumb ass ship.

598
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 5: You feel me ridiculous? Man.

599
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 8: Also, I was wondering. I was like, did you see

600
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 8: the shoes the shoes he gave to the to my man.

601
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 8: I'm like, bro, does he have to take them so

602
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 8: weak the kids have to take I was thigging the

603
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 8: whole thing too.

604
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 3: For what I don't want, No goddamn funky ass sneakers. Dog,

605
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: I don't care how big a fan I am or

606
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: someone like dog, give me that jersey.

607
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 5: I don't need. You got give them the jersey. That's

608
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 5: a beautiful jersey, Nigga. Right, and them sneakers was weak

609
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 5: as fuck.

610
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: To is are the hardest with Adidas Adidas Hooper shoes, Nigga, Bro.

611
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: I remember growing up as a Hooper when we were

612
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: sponsored by Adidas and I refused to wear them ships

613
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: and I wore fucking Nikes.

614
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't give a fuck, Nigga. Y'all, y'all

615
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 4: got yall deal and I got my pride. Nigga, I'm

616
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 4: not wearing these weak ass Adidas.

617
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 5: You feel me? And this niggas signed them. He has

618
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 5: a whole Sixers jersey on bro sign the jersey handed

619
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 5: over to him. You know what I mean. You give

620
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: him them dry ass shoes. You show no funny want

621
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 5: them them, Nigga. Them shits ain't nothing, Nigga. Them ship's weak.

622
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 4: Bro.

623
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 5: God them in blue pat and leather like some Buster rhymes.

624
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 5: You feel me here, Bro, God lead them ships was weak.

625
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 5: He took them off. I'm like, oh, brother, don see

626
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 5: you have to what if you just said, I'll pass

627
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 5: a church, thank you for the Chickens tickets. That's enough.

628
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 5: That's more than enough. She but not hard that hell,

629
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 5: I mean, Harden.

630
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 4: You know that two stickers played great. You know what

631
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 4: I mean, up and down, ship, But I don't know

632
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: the hell of a game. I can't take anything from them. Man,

633
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: he got an answer for everything. Whoever got a bucket

634
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: didn't matter hard and came back and had an answer

635
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: for it.

636
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: I just I just feel like with that series, I

637
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: think most of us assume whoever comes out of this

638
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: is probably going to the finals. It just feels like

639
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: this has been just a very unseerious show off between

640
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: these two teams. If the Heat goes to the to

641
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: the conference finals, motherfuckers might be in trouble.

642
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 5: Dog real ship, low key lokey. Did you see when

643
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: the Knicks one?

644
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: And uh uh when wasn't Able sitting out Jimmy buckets

645
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 4: you feel me and shaking his head.

646
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 5: Bro, I knew it was over. I knew. I knew

647
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 5: next game wasn't wasn't winning. I knew they he was coming. Bro,

648
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 5: I knew what time it was.

649
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 4: And he's that type of guy that could take a

650
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: game over like that, you know what I mean? So well,

651
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: it'd be interesting to see him dueling what either of

652
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 4: those teams. I think you can still get some ws

653
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 4: for sure.

654
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 7: Bro looks like he seems unseerious right now.

655
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 6: Like the Sixers had James Harden, their second best player,

656
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 6: go one for like forty games two and three combined. Right,

657
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 6: Jason Tatum went over his first seven in the first

658
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 6: half today, Like neither team, despite them probably going to

659
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 6: the finals, looks anywhere near competent enough to be a

660
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 6: final Sitton.

661
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: I think he had two points in the first half.

662
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 4: Wasn't it that he was like one for like nine

663
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: or some shit?

664
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 5: Tatum?

665
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think I can get two points.

666
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 5: Something nasty like that. But yeah, Bro, Bro, I really

667
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 5: this is bro.

668
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: This It is wide open.

669
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 4: The words could fuck around and make it happen again.

670
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 4: I think we were talking about the Nuggets, but you

671
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I think the Nuggets are still, like,

672
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 4: you know, the most consistent team, you feel me, But Bro,

673
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 4: I think this this, this, this, the chip is wide open.

674
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 5: Whoever wants to can go get that motherfucker. Man.

675
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: I think anybody you know what I'm saying, other than

676
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: the Knicks, you heat series, I think the other series

677
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: anybody can go get it.

678
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: It is more up in the air than I can

679
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: remember it being midway through the conference.

680
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 5: Did even last year? Did even last year? You know

681
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 5: what I'm saying? And it was up in the air

682
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 5: like a motherfucker last year to me?

683
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's talk about Lakers Warriors a D.

684
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: It was a good ad game Game three Lakers.

685
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 5: Alternate Day, as He's called the Internet Jesus, they got

686
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 5: so many for this man. Gee.

687
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say though, Like this Lakers

688
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: team when they're on and they're playing defense the way

689
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: they play defense in that game, but then they could

690
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: turn around and they could come out and lose by

691
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: thirty on Monday. I mean, you just don't know what

692
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: to make of them. I would say Game three made

693
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,239
Speaker 2: me feel a lot more confident. It does appear, as

694
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: we talked about on the last pod, that they are

695
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: employing a strategy regarding rest and when to be putting

696
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: effort out. And it's also clear that the role players

697
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: are good enough to win them maybe more than one

698
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: game in this series, maybe to win them two games.

699
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: So what did you what did y'all think of Game

700
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: three and did it change I know all three of

701
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: us are on the same page about how nuts and

702
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: series is, but did Game three change your thoughts on

703
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: the series at all?

704
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 5: I woult to say it changed my thoughts.

705
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: It kind of reaffirmed what I saw in Game one,

706
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: which is I think the Lakers have the right blueprint,

707
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: the right strategy to beat this team. It all just

708
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: comes down to, like I hate to I'm gonna be

709
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: on some cliches shit, like do y'all motherfuckers want to

710
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: beat these dudes?

711
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 5: Like that's what it comes down to, you know what

712
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 5: I mean?

713
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: Like, you know, it's it was the same strategy that

714
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: we saw with Game one, where you know, they were

715
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: attacking the paint, you know, the locking up on defense.

716
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: Bron didn't shoot for his first fifteen minutes of playing time.

717
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 5: Which was odd.

718
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was odd, But at the same time, it

719
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: didn't feel like, I don't know, I'm just at the

720
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: boot where I just did not question what Bron does

721
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: because his fucking way works as it did this game,

722
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So, but yeah, you know,

723
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: like I said coming into the series, I think the

724
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: Lakers are gonna win it. Like I said, I think

725
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: the Lakers had the bluebird. I think they know how

726
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: to get the wins. It's just if they're gonna want it,

727
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: like it's fucking alternate. They gonna, you know, try to

728
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: get to back to back games where he's on fire.

729
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: We'll fucking see.

730
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 5: Raymond said it like he's like, I don't like he said.

731
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 5: I think step said it. I'm trying to figure out Bron.

732
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 5: I don't. I think he's hurt. I don't know how

733
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 5: he's approaching this shit though.

734
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: Like you know, I've never seen a Bron game where

735
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: he's going that along without shooting.

736
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. That's odd.

737
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: He turned that motherfuck up when he needed to in

738
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: a third, you know what I mean, impress the gas,

739
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: you feel me, so he still got it, you know

740
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 4: what I mean.

741
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 5: But I don't know.

742
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I don't know, but I

743
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: saw whatever they do if they want to win, you

744
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, They're gonna have to win the

745
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: hard way, which is defense. That's what gets some w's.

746
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 4: Bro If their defensive rotations or ship, it's over with.

747
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: They don't have the offense. To just outdo motherfuckers.

748
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 5: They don't have that, you know. So it's not only

749
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 5: a d and even in his stinkers has been decent

750
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 5: on the defensive end.

751
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: Everybody has to buy in. And it feels very Republican

752
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: to say got to buy in on the defensive end.

753
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: This is the type of team that they have, you

754
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: know what I mean, that's what they need. Delo shout out,

755
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 4: and I think Dlo's a very big part of their wins.

756
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 4: When Delo plays good, they almost I mean, Delo playing

757
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: good almost guarantees.

758
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: Them a win more than even Bron playing good, you

759
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 5: know what I mean. I saw a tweet.

760
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: I saw a tweet from the homie Josh eagerly shots

761
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: to the Homie Josh where he said, this isn't Bron's

762
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 3: best supporting cast, but it's the cast that has order

763
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: him the most.

764
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 5: And I think that shit hit the nail on the art.

765
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's because he's getting he's getting so

766
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: much help from guys.

767
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 5: Like d Lo, Ruie. You know, really sure, Ruey has

768
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 5: been great. He's been phenomenal.

769
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Ruey is the second best Bible,

770
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: He's the second best three point shooter in the playoffs,

771
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 2: hes shooting like fifty four percent in the play.

772
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 4: When he let that motherfucker go, I'll be like at first,

773
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: I was like, you know it counting. Now I'm like,

774
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 4: give it, hey, get you feel me facts.

775
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 5: Facts. Love to see that, love to see. I have

776
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 5: a theory on Braun.

777
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: I think it's very clear that he understands this is

778
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: a real opportunity for a championship this postseason, and I

779
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: think that what we're seeing from him is a guy

780
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: who knows he's playing hurt and is planning on playing

781
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 2: another month plus of basketball. I mean, that's just what

782
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: I think we're seeing, and so I get it from

783
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: his perspective. It's like he probably doesn't have thirty eight

784
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: high effort minutes a game for another month. So from

785
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: his perspective, it's probably a smart call to go. If

786
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: this team can get us into a spot where I

787
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: can help close it or help shut it down like

788
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: he did in Game three, then we're good enough to

789
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: win the finals. And if they're not good enough to

790
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: do that in the conference semifinals, then we're not gonna

791
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 2: win a championship anyway.

792
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind of what I think I'm seeing

793
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 4: he's very measured, very measured, and that makes a bunch

794
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 4: of sense.

795
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 5: I agree completely.

796
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: All right, Game four on Monday. We'll see if it's

797
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: alternating days or if we get to it. Maybe a

798
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: d save in two in a row for Game six

799
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: and seven of the finals.

800
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 5: I have no idea. Then they say the person that

801
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 5: wins too in a row generally wins the series.

802
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: Like what, yeah, so yeah, let's see we can figure

803
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 4: this shit out. Boys, come on, it would be nice,

804
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 4: the ideal, it would be ideal, It.

805
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: Would be wonderful. Heat Knicks series Monday night. What are

806
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: your guys' thoughts on that? Do you think Jimmy Butler

807
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: coming back and you know they're just gonna put the

808
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: foot down? Or do we do we get? I mean,

809
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: here's what I say. All four series where at two

810
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: to one, and then today both of them go to

811
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: two and two with the home team, uh, you know,

812
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: taking care of business to get out of the hole.

813
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: Tomorrow we'll see what happens because it's the other thing now,

814
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: right in terms of the who's hosting? So what do

815
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: y'all think happens in that Heat next game on Monday?

816
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 3: You know, I think the Heat have been just playing phenomenal.

817
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 3: They've been playing over their heads probably a bit. I

818
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: don't see the Knicks going down one three. I think

819
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: the Knicks probably you know, squeak sweek that one out

820
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: and win that one.

821
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 4: So I see, you know, I just think brushing bro,

822
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, he got too much dog

823
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: in him. He ain't gonna let that happen twice in

824
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 4: a row, you feel me. So I don't see him

825
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 4: going down three one either. But I mean with the Heat, man,

826
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: I just I don't know, they're so good, and then

827
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: you know, Jimmy just takes so over games. He would

828
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 4: just take over fu. He'll grab the reins, snatch it

829
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: from wherever thinks they running.

830
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 5: Shit, and do what the fuck you feels. So we'll see.

831
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 5: But I see the Knicks winning the next game.

832
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: The money and the brains are misalign on this. The

833
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: ESPN Analytics has got it as a sixty four percent

834
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: Nicks win and Vegas has it as a Heat minus four.

835
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 5: So we'll see.

836
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: We'll see who's right, the money guys, the or the

837
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: analytics guys. Last basket nerd off, last, last last basketball

838
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 2: topic before we get out of here. The Bucks Fire coach.

839
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: But we talked about it on this podcast, you know

840
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: about thinking that that was necessary. First of all, had

841
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: a couple of people tweet after the last show. I

842
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: was unaware of the situation with his brother and his

843
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: family stuff. So obviously, you know, we're human beings. First,

844
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: super horrible that he's going through that. That's a shitty

845
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: thing about sports, Like they're not going to be able

846
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: to give you that month to you know, grieve and

847
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: deal with the shit you have going on in your life.

848
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: What happened his brother passed away like during the playoffs,

849
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: and so you know, so yeah, anyway, so someone pointed

850
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: out it was like, for sure, like hey, you know,

851
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I we'll still talking about the job you're

852
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 2: coaching whatever, But for sure that's a you know, separate

853
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: from basketball and more important than basketball. But that being said,

854
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 2: like I was surprised him even as someone who said

855
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: I thought they should do this, I was surprised that

856
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: they did it. And I wonder if this is a

857
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: signal that Yannis who just cut his hair by the

858
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: way to signal that he's very serious.

859
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 5: I wonder if this is congratulations, handsome man.

860
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is a This is a signal

861
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: that he's moving into a part of his career where

862
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: he's going to flex his muscle a little bit more

863
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: in terms of understanding how much these team decisions affect

864
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: his own personal legacy and all that other stuff. You

865
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

866
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

867
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, something that's jumped out to us

868
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: in that in that post name conference he had, you

869
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: know about the about success and all that, was he

870
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 3: seemed to catch himself before he even criticized Bud too, right,

871
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: Like that was something that yeah, it seemed like he

872
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: had some shit on his chest you want to say about,

873
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: but that he did not.

874
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 5: You know, that's up to that man for showing restraint

875
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 5: in that moment. But I mean it was it was

876
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 5: time for Budd to go.

877
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 6: Man.

878
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: You know, like we discussed, these championship windows are only

879
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: open for so long. Bro, you gotta maximize that shit.

880
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: But just wasn't the right guy for the job. I

881
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: think Nick Nurse is probably gonna be the leading candidate here.

882
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: I think something that that they're going to have to

883
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: seriously consider with this dude is, you know, it was

884
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: some real bad blood when he left Toronto, Like there

885
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: are asshole allegations around Nick Nurse. You know, that's something

886
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: that that they're gonna have to investigate, like did he

887
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: just not like the motherfuckers he was working with?

888
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 5: Or is he a dickhead in general?

889
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 4: Right?

890
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: Like that's gonna be something they're gonna have to figure

891
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: out in the interview process there.

892
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 5: But I think for sure Nick Nurse is probably the

893
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 5: leading candidate here.

894
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 4: I interviewed Nick Nurse, But I mean, it's just time

895
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: him to go bro Like, you can't deny that, man,

896
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And I know he's a

897
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 4: championship when he coached, like you know Dame was saying,

898
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 4: but I mean I.

899
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: Said, a place that hadn't won a championship in fifty

900
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: years or whatever.

901
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think you know Jannis won that in

902
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 4: spite of but you know what I'm saying, with all

903
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: due respect, you know what I'm saying, that.

904
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 5: Was Gianni's a ship. He wouldn't have got that motherfucker.

905
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 5: You feel what I'm saying.

906
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: What did y'all think? There was something that was almost

907
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: like a little bit sad about Dame's comment.

908
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 5: I thought for me, it was like we talked about this,

909
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 5: it kind of felt like I was like, DAMEE, seems

910
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 5: like he takes things personal that shouldn't be personal, you

911
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

912
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 4: Where he's like y'all getting rid of championship coaches as

913
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: if like he want to chip at one time.

914
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 5: You just buy into that, you know what I mean,

915
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 5: Like he's.

916
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 4: A championship coaches, Like we're looking at him now based

917
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 4: on what he's doing now and what he's done and

918
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 4: overall as a whole, and it's not good enough to

919
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 4: keep trusting him with gianness, you know what I mean.

920
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 4: And so for me, it was just like sometimes I

921
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 4: feel like he it was interesting, like it just seems

922
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 4: like he takes all of this so personal. I know

923
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 4: he understands is a business, you know what I mean,

924
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: But he takes it personal in a way that I

925
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 4: don't think benefits him building a legacy or making the

926
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: best decisions for himself as a basketball player, you know

927
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: what I mean. And I mean, hey, if he he's

928
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 4: making a ton of money, great fucking player. You know

929
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, I'll remember him forever, you know what

930
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But I mean, I mean, those are having

931
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: a lot of really to you know, Stamp himself as

932
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 4: a god in the way he could be, you know

933
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: what I mean.

934
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: I think he's also saying that through the lens of

935
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: a player with with with with you know who's up

936
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: on that tier of the most job security of anyone

937
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: in the fucking league, Portland is that man is going

938
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: to retire a Blazer if he wants to. Portland is

939
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: never gonna trade that man. You know, he know, he

940
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: knows that Portland is going to be loyal to him.

941
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 3: You know, He's earned that. So I think that also

942
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: kind of influences his perspective on these things. But yeah,

943
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: I'm with you, man, he doesn't seem to you to.

944
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 3: I mean, none of us were surprised when this happened, right,

945
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: I mean you could say, you know it was you know,

946
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: two seasons ago he won a championship. You know, it's

947
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: a cold game, but yeah, it's a cold game, but

948
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: that's how the shit go. None of us were surprised

949
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: with this.

950
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 5: We knew that.

951
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: You knew the second that fin final buzzer with off

952
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: that that was the last game that Butter coach for

953
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: these That's what we felt, and we and and.

954
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 4: We I didn't know if he was going to get Lego,

955
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 4: but I felt like I didn't trust him with Giannis

956
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 4: and you know, and that the squad they have to

957
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 4: rectify whatever things needed to be rectified in order for

958
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 4: them to make sure that doesn't happen again next year.

959
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 4: And I mean, we're you know, and I know he

960
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: understands that you feel me, But he's just I mean,

961
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: he's loyal.

962
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 5: And that's and that's uh, that's very admirable. That's extremely loyal,

963
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 5: very admirable.

964
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 4: But I mean in in a and and and he's

965
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 4: playing a different game than other people are playing, and

966
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 4: I think that doesn't serve him well. And I think

967
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 4: his response kind of showed that to me in ways

968
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 4: that you know, his decisions haven't, you know what I mean.

969
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 7: So I agree that he should have been fired. But

970
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 7: I was just thinking about this and I was curious,

971
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 7: so I looked it up.

972
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 6: I don't know if there's ever been Maybe maybe there

973
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 6: has been ever, but at least in the last at

974
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 6: least in the twenty first century, there is not been

975
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 6: a team that won multiple finals with different coaches like

976
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 6: a in a short span. He did it with pat

977
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 6: Riley and then years later with Eric s Bulstra, Like

978
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 6: ten years later, but in like an era of a team.

979
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 6: No team has won multiple championships with different coaches in

980
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 6: that in those championships.

981
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

982
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 5: That's some produce. That's some production right there, my guy. Yeah,

983
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 5: that's some good job.

984
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look step kids, like we thought we were huh,

985
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: that's right, Oh, Jackson, give us Jackson. Jackson took the

986
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: trash out without being asked. Tonight, all the gems.

987
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 7: For this podcast, Jerymond dream gets the scraps. I say

988
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 7: the gyms for this.

989
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: All right before we get out of here, John, are

990
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: you comfortable sharing uh Sony's commentary on the game today?

991
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 4: Dude, Like, honestly, is me you know, I don't really

992
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 4: care about cursing as much. Yeah, you feel me like

993
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 4: it's not that big of a deal, you know, to me,

994
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 4: just for what ever reason type of way. I laughed,

995
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 4: but I was like, it made me. I think this

996
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 4: was it made me realize. And I've been realizing this

997
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 4: a lot more than well what she what she said?

998
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 2: You gotta say.

999
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: Second second, this made me realize and I've been realizing this,

1000
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 4: but it kind of stamped is that this. I'm realizing

1001
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 4: she's my child, Like she does a lot of things

1002
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 4: that this is my fucking kid. Like I was playing

1003
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: some rap music. You know what I'm saying, some trappy ship.

1004
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 4: She ran out the back room. Yo, yo, you know

1005
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, like running in the and then rather

1006
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: was like I'm trying to get her ready and she

1007
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 4: was like did she grab her brought it back?

1008
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 5: Then she came back her Yeah, yeah, she was like,

1009
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 5: dance with me. I'm like, damn, this is really my kid.

1010
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 4: I had to take her back there with the music

1011
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: to change her diaper because she was like, I'm trying to.

1012
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 5: Get busy anyway, So something me said fuck nigga today?

1013
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 6: Bro?

1014
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 4: We was we was. I was watching basketball yelling at

1015
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: the screen and show me, Oh, fuck nigga.

1016
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 5: I need to know. Did you say fuck nigga? Was

1017
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 5: she was? She mimicking you? Was this something she pulled

1018
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 5: from the memory bank? No, no, I said it. I said,

1019
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 5: I think I said fuck, and then she said it was.

1020
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: I was watching the Celtics game, so I could have

1021
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: been talking about a bevy of humans and I don't

1022
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 4: know what, but.

1023
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 5: I got to talking about a fan, you know what

1024
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 5: I mean? But nah, other than Jackson of course.

1025
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 4: But yeah, I just yeah, I said it, but she's

1026
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: I mean, she said other cursewords like shit, damn, but

1027
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 4: that would just hit me, like, bro.

1028
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 5: This is my child and I'm really responsible for her, you.

1029
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

1030
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 4: And I laughed, but rather was like so mean, and

1031
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: I was like, but also I get it. That's a

1032
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: that's a that's a capital curseword. Dog, that's a professional

1033
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: curse word. She just used at a young age. Bro,

1034
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta, you gotta, you gotta use fuck nigga.

1035
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 5: You know, careful, you gotta you know you shooting words.

1036
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 5: You gotta you gotta be very decisive when're using that one,

1037
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 5: you know.

1038
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think I said, I forget exactly what

1039
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 4: I said, but yeah, she she went and got that

1040
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: issue off and I said, sex y'all said, Sony just

1041
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: said fuck niggah.

1042
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 5: We were we weren't s m A H. I wasn't

1043
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 5: always chuckling while saying that, you know what I'm saying,

1044
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 5: but just dud.

1045
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 4: Like I said, this is the age where they really

1046
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 4: show you that they are your kids, you know what

1047
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And I'm seeing a lot of ship were

1048
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 4: like damn, this is rather be like this your child

1049
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 4: for sure, like like we just we are very crazy

1050
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: people together.

1051
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: And yeah, man, I gotta that's a that's a nicas

1052
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: for sure.

1053
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 4: I mean on face time and people be like, whoa,

1054
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 4: y'all you know what I'm saying, Like I bought my

1055
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 4: sister accordingly, I'll tell the folks. She was like, y'all,

1056
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 4: finna be so loud in that motherfucker because we were

1057
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 4: just I had something to myself this past off most

1058
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 4: of this weekend, and I was on FaceTime and she

1059
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 4: was We were just yelling at ea other being goofy

1060
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 4: and shit and my sister looking at what It's crazy.

1061
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, this is a normal evening with me and

1062
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 5: Sony alone, like you know what i mean.

1063
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 4: So I'm like, damn my week am I raising a scoundrel,

1064
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 4: a rap scollion nigga?

1065
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying anyway, right man?

1066
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: Love it all right, that's all the time we got.

1067
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Wednesday night after Game five of Lakers,

1068
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: Doves and Heat Knicks. Cannot wait to talk to y'all then,

1069
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: and then we'll have our silly Billy episode on Saturday.

1070
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: If you don't want to hear any more about sports, y'all.

1071
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: One of those days.

1072
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 5: Bye bye,