1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. He is my 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: partner in crime, Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field West. The Packers on 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: Sunday Night football, they blow out the Minnesota Vikings thirty 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: seven to ten and in the process clinch the number 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: one playoff seed for the NFC because the Cowboys had 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: lost earlier in the day. I want to get to 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: the playoff scenarios and and where all that stands a 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: little bit later, but for this show, and I don't 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: want us to start sounding like a broken record, but 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: I think we have to start with what Aaron Rodgers 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: and Davante Adams are doing. I mean, how that looked 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday night. What those two guys are doing is incredible. 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: What really struck me on Sunday night was just the 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: way in which they continue to make it look so easy. 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers with another hundred plus passer rating in sub 18 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: zero temperatures or sub zero windshills, excuse me, and Davante 19 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: Adams getting the double digit catches over a hundred yards 20 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: gets in the end zone again, and uh, it just 21 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: it looks too easy in this game. Is not that easy. 22 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: It is not. And the plays that they make, Mike 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: Packer fans are so spoiled when you look at the 24 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: NFL and just the amount of jaw dropping plays week 25 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: to week to week. Rogers, for one, makes on his own, 26 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: but to that combination of him and Adams, it's special. 27 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: You might have those a few times in a season 28 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: in other NFL cities. Here it happens literally every Sunday. 29 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: But I want to take this in a different direction 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: on you too, though, Mike, because we've talked a lot 31 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers making a compelling bid for that fourth 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: straight m v P. We talked a lot about Davante Adams. 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: It would be an absolute travesty if he doesn't actually 34 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: be an unanimous All Pro. I know last year someone 35 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: voted for Cole Beasley for some reason and he wasn't, 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: but that he wasn't actually a unanimous all fifty votes 37 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: all Pro at receiver. But it was something that Davante 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: Adams said after the game that really hit home with me. 39 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: DeVante talked about almost eighteen minutes, which for a postgame 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: interview is about as long as it gets for anyone 41 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: not named Aaron Rodgers or Matt Lafleur. And in the 42 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: middle of it, when he was talking about some of 43 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: the things that him and Rodgers have accomplished together, Davante 44 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: took that car and hit the off ramp and what 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: he said was, it's also about the guys in that 46 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: locker room and the way that that offense plays together 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: with all eleven parts and the selflessness for guys to 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: understand if we're gonna play winning football, this offense and 49 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: a lot of occasions, has to run through Rodgers. It 50 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: has to run through number seventeen. Aaron Jones is a 51 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: guy that in a lot of cities probably is a 52 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: two earned, fifty touch type player. A J. Jones I 53 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: think can show you one week after week after week. 54 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: This is a guy that can carry the ball three 55 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: times a year, no problem, and he's gonna be able 56 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: to get you production. Markquisveldes Scantling has had some huge games, 57 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: and he's had games like Sunday where it was one 58 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: catch for three yards, Alan Lazar, the list goes on 59 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: and on and on. In some places that could be 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: a problem for people in Green Bay. They understand what 61 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: everybody's role is and they embrace that role. And in 62 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: this particular case, when you have a generational type talent 63 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers, and you have a guy that could 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: very well go down on that receiver Mount Rushmore here 65 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: in Green Bay, maybe right alongside Don Hudson in Davante Adams, 66 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: you want to ride those horses. And for the Green 67 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Bay Packers for the last three seasons, it's led to 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: an incredible amount of winning and a lot of records 69 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: as well for those two players. Yeah, I was just 70 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: blown away and and I I know we see it 71 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, but there was something about Sunday 72 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: night with the conditions under the lights. Uh, you know, 73 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: the temperatures were in the single digits, the windshills were 74 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: below zero. It's it's not supposed to be that simple. 75 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: And yet the the back shoulder throws, the tear drop 76 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: throws down, you know, down the sideline that you know, 77 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: sort of the drop in the bucket type of throws. 78 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just it was it felt like 79 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: it was one after another and they were running around 80 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: out there on you know, the frozen tundra as though 81 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: it was a seventy degree day in September. Um, you know, 82 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: in a in a preseason game or something. And I'm 83 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: not disparaging the Minnesota Vikings defense. I know they've had 84 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: an up and down season and all that, but um, 85 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of those back shoulder throws 86 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: were were Um, they were absolutely guarded as closely as 87 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: you could possibly guard them. And that ball is still 88 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: fitting into the tightest of windows with Adams snatching it 89 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: with his hands at absolutely the last possible millisecond and 90 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: not give away to the defender that the ball is coming. 91 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the timing and the precision of it in 92 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: those conditions absolutely floored me. In and and again, I 93 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: don't I'm sorry if I'm making our show like a 94 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: broken record that we talked about this every week, But 95 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: I think there's something about that particular game Sunday night 96 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: and what they did and everything that it encompassed that 97 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: was different and special compared to what we've seen before 98 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: offensively for the Minnesota Vikings. I have a lot of questions. 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: It seemed to me like Minnesota and Summer guards didn't 100 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: want to really even be there. That's the way I felt. Yeah, 101 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: I tip my cap to their defense, though, Mike, it's 102 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: been a much maligned defense this year. That secondary. Everybody 103 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: talks about how they don't have, you know, the horses 104 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: that they had in the past. You know, cam dancler 105 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: doesn't play in this game, right. I actually thought Chris 106 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: Boyd played a pretty good game. I was watching Harrison, 107 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: you know, Smith basically run laps around the field, trying 108 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: to get on the back end, trying to cover the slot, 109 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: trying to get over to where Davante is and Green 110 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Bay in the cat and mouse game they played, specifically 111 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: in that second quarter, was just incredible to watch. I mean, 112 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: by and large, Minnesota did a good job against Davante Adams, 113 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: and he had eleven catches for a hundred and thirty 114 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: six yards in a touchdown. But when he got going, man, 115 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: they had few answers to stop him, and and ultimately 116 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: that led to him now being twenty two yards shy 117 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: of Jordy Nelson's franchise record for single season receiving yards. 118 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: He broke his own record for single season catches now 119 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: at one seventeen. And then suddenly not that he's gonna 120 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: be challenging you know, the record that he shares with 121 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: sterling sharp for single season touchdowns. But suddenly this guy 122 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: that was having an issue getting into the red zone 123 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: earlier the season now has ten eleven touchdowns on the year. Yeah, 124 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams is one of a kind man, and that 125 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: synergy has with Aaron Rodgers, it's it's unlike anything we've seen. Yeah, 126 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: the numbers that he's putting up this year, and you 127 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: mentioned the double digit touchdowns. I believe that's either the 128 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth time in his career that he's reached 129 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: double digit touchdowns. Now, Um, pretty incredible And with regard 130 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: to to me, and I take nothing away from from um, 131 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, from a guy like Jamaar Chase in Cincinnati 132 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: was having an absolutely phenomenal rookie year. But the but 133 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: the two All Pro receivers on the first team in 134 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: the NFL or Cooper Cup in Davante Adams, I just 135 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: don't see how that goes any other way. And whether 136 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: you whether it's supposed to be unanimus or not, I 137 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: guess I'm not going to get too hung up on that. 138 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: But those two guys, you know, Jamaar Chase has had 139 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: a phenomenal season and he is he He and Joe 140 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: Burrow are elevating Cincinnati into that contender conversation in the 141 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: a f C. But Cooper Cup and Davantae Adams have 142 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: done it every week all season long, and I don't 143 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: think I would have cared as much about the All 144 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Pro if it would have been just such an egregious 145 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: thing to have cold beat. Which, by the way, that 146 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: vote no, you're you're at You're absolutely that vote ended 147 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: up making Cole Beasley I think in All Pro. I 148 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: think he was a second team All Pro last year 149 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: because of that vote. Yeah, But be that as it may, 150 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: Chase is an exceptional player. I mean, my goodness, what 151 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: he did against Kansas City. Give that guy credit. But 152 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: in terms of the receiving position, the receiving position in 153 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: and of itself, Cup and Adams right now are the 154 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: gold standards. The way they can run the entire road tree, 155 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: their instincts, their ability to play any of the positions 156 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: that are involved with the skill position player. Uh, those 157 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: two guys. Watching them work and having a chance in 158 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: recent weeks to watch Cup more and more, you really 159 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: see a lot of parallels in their game, and especially 160 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: in Cup's case, being able to develop that chemistry in 161 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: year one with Matthew Stafford. Yeah. Well, a couple other 162 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: things to get to hear from this big victory for 163 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. One is that we had talked 164 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: about it all week long, the keying on Dalvin Cook 165 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: and not letting him take control this football game. And 166 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: then lo and behold, we find out on Friday that 167 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: Kirk cousins Um goes on the COVID list and the 168 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: Vikings have to have to substitute Sean mannion and uh, um, 169 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, hats off to the Packers defense. Dalvin Cook 170 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: held to thirteen yards on nine carries, also had zero 171 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: yards on three receptions, so twelve touches and just thirteen 172 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: yards for Cook. And that's a heck of an effort 173 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: by the Packers defense. But that unit also just didn't 174 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: really have to worry about Minnesota's passing game because because 175 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: Sean Mannion um gave it everything he had on a 176 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: difficult night in difficult conditions. But that Minnesota passing game, 177 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: even with Justin Jefferson but also without Adam Feeling, was 178 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: just never a threat to the to this Packers defense, 179 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: and and then with them never really getting Dalvin Cook going, 180 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: um the whole game just became a foregone conclusion. You know, 181 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for what Matt Lafloora 182 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: and Joe Barry did in this game because they didn't 183 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: disrespect Minnesota's offense. They did if you you always say 184 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: every week, like fans always like to ask in the 185 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: instigram box, hey, is this a trap game? Or are 186 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: they overlooking this point? The green Bay Packers respected the 187 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: Vikings for everything they could be with or without Kirk 188 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Cousins on the field. But by doing that, they also 189 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: didn't get outside themselves, and they just kind of dominated 190 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: an opponent they should dominate in the fashion that was 191 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: actually you know that that corresponded to the performance. You 192 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: didn't see them cheating guys up. You didn't see them 193 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: just running base packages in the entire game. They incorporated 194 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: the dime the situations that called for specific packages, They 195 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: ran those packages, and they asked their guys to execute. 196 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I actually think this is a really important game for 197 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay from a defensive standpoint, because I thought it 198 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: allowed them to get in and out of their base 199 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: nickel Penny in dime packages with more fluidity. That was 200 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: where we'd seen some of the issues with the communication 201 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: in recent weeks. That was the most unified that Dimes 202 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: seemed this year with Kevin King in that role. There 203 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: was even the one where they kind of had King 204 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: mugging up front with with you know, Devondra Campbell, you know, 205 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: teasing a blitz, you know, kind of more true, you know, 206 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: nickel type looks. The Green Bay Packers have a really 207 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: talented defense, and as we'll probably talk about at some point, 208 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: they could potentially be getting reinforcements back here for the 209 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: post season. But I just felt like they kind of 210 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: need to get their swagger back a little bit, and 211 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: this was the game to do it. The fact that 212 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook only carried the ball nine times, it is 213 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: what it is. That's the game plan that they went with. 214 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: But the fact that they only gave up thirteen yards 215 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: on those carries and not giving him extraditional room to breathe. 216 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: That was my main takeaway from this game. The Packers 217 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: one up front and they dominated. Yeah, I think the 218 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: point that you made with regard to the changing of 219 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: the personnel packages in the communication and everything being smoothed out, 220 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: we saw some issues with that with the Packers defense 221 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: in recent weeks, and that did seem to get straightened out. 222 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: I went through the defensive film by what you might 223 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: have missed segment, I actually I focused on on the 224 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: coverage of Eric Stokes because it really was impressive what 225 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: he was doing. He was he certainly got his share 226 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: of of Justin Jefferson in this game, and Stokes is 227 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: playing is playing some really really good football for the 228 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: Packers right now. But with regard to the communication, there 229 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: was one play I saw. I think it was when 230 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: the Vikings were in the red zone or close to 231 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: the red zone or something, and and um, Channon Sullivan 232 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: got kind of mixed up where he was on the 233 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: wrong side of the tight end was on the other 234 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: side and he and he had yeah and he had 235 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: to you know, chase the guy. But other than that one, 236 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: other than that one instance, it felt like it felt 237 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: like everything the Packers wanted to do on offense was 238 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: it was implemented and it was executed smoothly. And that's 239 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: what you like to see with where this team is 240 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: heading into the postsea. And I'm so glad you brought 241 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: that up because what also stood out to me is, Okay, 242 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: after the play happened, they get the guy down, watching 243 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: the defense come back together. Watching Chandon and Ull come 244 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: back together kind of kind of tap each other on 245 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: the helmet and get onto the next one. That was 246 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: my biggest takeaway from that is that, Yeah, that was 247 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: you let what you you gave one up there. Yeah, 248 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: but they found a way to rally back. That's a 249 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: really really salient point. Yeah. The The other thing we 250 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: saw that will be very interesting to monitor here going 251 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: forward is a very under the radar signing. The Packers 252 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: pick up David Moore. They signed him to the practice squad. 253 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: He'd been released from the Broncos practice squad. He's a 254 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Just a couple of months earlier, Packers bring 255 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: him in, sign him of the practice squad, elevate him 256 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: for game day with a Marii Rodgers on the COVID list, 257 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, bang this guy. Well, first 258 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: it looked like he had drawn a penalty for for 259 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, interference of interference to catch a punt. The 260 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: officials picked up that flag and I still don't understand 261 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: why they did. But then later on he returns a 262 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: punt twenty one yards, which becomes the Packers longest punt 263 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: return of the season fifteen yards get tacked on for 264 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: a late hit out of bounds. Suddenly it looks like, 265 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, do the Packers here have their you know, 266 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen Tyler Irvin. This this late addition 267 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: to the special teams in in David Morde had to 268 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: help out here. It looks like he could make an impact. 269 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: Tell you what a couple of things here. One. I 270 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: was driving into work today, I was talking to my friends. 271 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: Scott Vincy, my former cork at the Press Gazette, I 272 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: know him well, and we got talking about the game 273 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: a little bit and I just casually brought up David 274 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: more In. Scott goes, wait, that the Seahawk. That the 275 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: guy that was with the Seahawks. I'm like yeah, and 276 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, since when does he played for the Packers. 277 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: I was like, well since Thursday, and I mean that's 278 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: the season. That's the way this thing's gone. Aaron Rodgers 279 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: even mentioned and this post game interview he met more 280 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: on the sideline and he's like, yeah, he had a 281 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: nice kick. A nice punt return for US twenty one 282 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: yards that also doubled as both agreement Packers longest punt 283 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: return of the season and the longest that Moors had 284 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: in his career. Listen, Mike, I almost I almost equated. 285 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: It was sort of like the pepno bismol a little 286 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: bit of the punt return game there. He just seemed 287 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: to really alleviate, you know, some of those issues. I mean, 288 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: there just was a lot more comfort with him back there. 289 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: And it was just one performance. He's got to be 290 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: able to string this together. But what have you and 291 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: I and everyone, coaches, fans, everybody's talked about this. They 292 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: just needed more consistency from their special teams and with 293 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: more He didn't dance under the ball, He tracked it well. 294 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: He didn't seem to be panicky under pressure. Give the 295 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: Jammers a lot of credit. They gave him some room 296 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: to which to work. He did have, he did have 297 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: some room to work. It was by far well. It 298 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: was by far the best punt return performance of the season, 299 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: and it put him up there for one of the 300 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: best special teams outings there. Mason Crosby five touchbacks, four 301 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: extra points, three field goals. They found ways to be consistent, 302 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: and that's all they're asking for them here. They're not 303 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: asking for Devin Hester. They're asking to get the ball 304 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: back to Aaron Rodgers with as favorable field position as possible, 305 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: and they did their job on Sunday night. Yeah, one 306 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: rough punt from bo Joe Um and then also a 307 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: shaky hold on that first field goal, but he recovered, 308 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: got down, Mason was able to make the kick. But 309 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: we're definitely seeing, definitely seeing some some progress there on 310 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: special teams. Before I forget West, I'll take care of 311 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: our sponsor business. Here. Serious x M NFL Radio delivers 312 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: hard hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL news 313 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: that true football fanatics need. 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They have the one seed which 322 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: comes with it the first round by home field advantage. 323 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: Everything that the Packers also had last year. But there's 324 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: still one regular season game left to play, so there 325 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: are a lot of questions. Now, how how do the 326 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: Packers go about this game in Detroit in Week eighteen 327 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: where the win or the loss doesn't impact your obviously 328 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: your your playoff implications at all. And Matt Lafleur said, 329 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: suggested on Sunday night, reiterated on Monday, they're going to 330 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: prep and play the starters in this game. He does 331 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: not want to to give healthy players a week off 332 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: now and then have the playoff by and essentially then 333 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: set up a scenario where from the Minnesota game to 334 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: the divisional playoff game, it's it's three weeks essentially between games. 335 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: That being said, it doesn't sound like the starters are 336 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: necessarily going to play the entire game in Detroit, So 337 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: there is a little bit of a treat this like 338 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: a preseason game kind of thing in a way the 339 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: way it's sounding at least right now early in the week. 340 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: Um And and the other factor that's going on here too, 341 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: as you had alluded to before, is some of these 342 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: injured guys, whether we're talking about David bok T Jaire, 343 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: Alexander Um, Randall, Cobb, are these guys going, Are these 344 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: guys going to be back for the playoffs? Would they 345 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: potentially play against the Lions to get their feet wet 346 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: so to speak. It's maybe not as big an issue 347 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: for Cobb because he's only been out like a month 348 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: or a little over a month. But um, obviously Alexander 349 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: has been out since Week four. Boxtr has not played 350 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: yet this season. We don't know how this is going 351 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: to go. But there's a lot to consider. There's sort 352 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: of there's sort of a lot of a lot of 353 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: balls being juggled in the air, so to speak, by 354 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur and his coaching staff and the medical staff 355 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: to figure out the best approach here between now and 356 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: when the Packers will play that divisional playoff game in 357 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: a few weeks. Yeah, And I don't know anything about 358 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: anything as it relearns to the injury front. Obviously, Matt 359 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: Flour has played a pretty close to the best here, 360 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: especially in the last two weeks. But I'll say this, 361 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean the way that Aaron Rodgers was speaking about 362 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb one, obviously it appears that Cobb is pretty 363 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: close to returning. Rogers even said, you know, if that 364 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: would have been a playoff type game, maybe would have 365 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: even been back out there. What that really tells me, though, 366 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: and this is the biggest thing, is that core injury. 367 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: Obviously it wasn't too significant, and what we've learned more 368 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: and more with these core muscle injuries a lot of times, Mike, 369 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: it's almost kind of like an mcl in some regards 370 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: where you just got to kind of go in there 371 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: and get the things stitched up and just work your 372 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: way back. So obviously being able to at least be 373 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: clear to be back on the field one month after that, 374 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: to be able to return to practice in a padded 375 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: session last Thursday, a very big positive for him. The 376 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: other three, it's gonna be really interesting. Um and Josh 377 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: Meyers certainly trying to come back from that knee injury 378 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: as well. Well, we'll see where things were at with him. 379 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: He's actually been in the rehab group now the last 380 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: few weeks, but Jarry Alexander's practicing, David Bakti was not 381 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: practicing last week. We'll see if he practices this week. 382 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: And then obviously Zadarius Smith, I know there was some 383 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: stuff said about him being back in town. We'll see 384 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: what happens there. The way I look at this is 385 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers have made themselves the top seed 386 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: in the NFC, the top dog, the team that has 387 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: should be favor to represent this conference in the Super Bowl. 388 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: Without a five time All Pro left tackle, without an 389 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: all Pro cornerback, and and certainly, um, when you look 390 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: at what happened with Elton Jenkins and and all these 391 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: other guys they've lost along the way, Robert Don incredible. 392 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they still managed to overcome it and put 393 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: themselves in this position. If you get back as a 394 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: Darius Smith and he can give you fifteen snaps in 395 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: an NFC Championship game or fifteen snaps in a Super Bowl, 396 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: what a boost that could give you. If you can 397 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: get back John Alexander for a playoff run, if you 398 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: can get back David box tr and he's ready in 399 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: that in the medical staff feels good about that knee. 400 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: Rogers equated it to two thousand and thirteen, and when 401 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: he and and Randall Copp both came back for that 402 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: regular season finale against Chicago, they've both been out for 403 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: a couple of months. At that Cop breaks his freaking 404 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: leg in Baltimore, Rogers dealing with the collar bone, two 405 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: months of questions about when he would be back. Both 406 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: of those guys get back, and he said, you could 407 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: see the jolt that gave the team because it's like, hey, 408 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: we got we could do this, we can win this game. 409 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: We can go to the super Bowl. For crying out loud, 410 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: this team at thirteen wins, could be fourteen. We'll see 411 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: what happens, doesn't really matter. There's there's some energy here, 412 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: and especially if you get those type of all pro 413 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: type players back down the stretch, there's no better way 414 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: to make a super Bowl run. Yeah. Absolutely, well it's 415 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: going to be. It's a storyline that's going to be 416 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: monitored not only this week but during the playoff by 417 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: and then leading up to to that divisional game. What's 418 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: going on with these guys who have been on the 419 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: injured list and been out. Also been some more guys 420 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: added to the COVID list, David Moore, who we were 421 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: just talking about the return man being one of them. 422 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: Of course, now you know with a with all the 423 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: changes of the rules, guys can come back from that 424 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: so much quicker. So um, hopefully they're healthy and feeling 425 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: well and and uh and they'll get they'll get cleared, 426 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: much like many of their teammates did UM over this 427 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: past week. One other thing I want to talk about 428 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: before we go, UM, just with regard to where things 429 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: sit in UH in the NFC playoff picture. First off, 430 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: there's only one playoff spot available UM and that essentially 431 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: comes down to either the forty Niners or the Saints. 432 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: The forty Niners are playing the Rams. If the forty 433 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: Niners win, they are in as a wild card if 434 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: they lose. If the Rams win that game, then the 435 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: Saints can get and can get that last playoff spot 436 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: by getting a victory in their final game. What's really 437 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: interesting about this, though, is that is that if the 438 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: forty Niners win and get that last spot, that loss, 439 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: the loss by the Rams in that scenario really throws 440 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: the seating and everything kind of up for grabs in 441 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: the in you know, seating the two through five spots, 442 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: because if the Rams lose, the Cardinals could steal back 443 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: that NFC West Division title and drop the Rams all 444 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: the way to the five seed. Whereas right now, if 445 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: the Rams win, they get the two seed, and they 446 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: are they are the one that is right behind Green Bay. 447 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: So between between the Rams, the Cowboys, the Buccaneers, and 448 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Everything with regard to who's going to be 449 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: in the two through five slots is very much up 450 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: in the air. Well, this is what I love it, Mike, 451 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: You and I were talking about it for weeks. This 452 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: is why I like the by was the biggest reason 453 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: you want to get it this particular year. Yes you 454 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: want to have home fiel advantage. Yes, you want to 455 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: be able to play in lambeau Field. Aaron Rodgers has 456 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: pontificated quite a bit on what that value is when 457 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: it's twenty degrees out and teams don't want to be here. 458 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: But it really also comes down in my respect to 459 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if you really want to face the 460 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles right now. I don't know if you really 461 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: want to face the San Francisco forty Niners. Some of 462 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: these teams, the way they've kind of come on, they 463 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: didn't make division title type runs, but they're bona fide. 464 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they actually are playoff caliber teams that can 465 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: beat top teams. I have real questions about how many 466 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: consecutive games the forty Niners Eagles. You know, in some regards, 467 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals can win, but they can knock off anybody 468 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: in that wild card round. So that's where I think 469 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: this thing gets really dangerous. I don't think there's anyone 470 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: truly limping in right now at this stage. I think 471 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of teams that feel pretty good 472 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: about their chances in a wide open Brackett the a 473 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: f C. A five win team or five lost team 474 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: is going to be the number one seed. I mean, 475 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: it is incredible the way that this thing is sorted out. 476 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: And I'm sure I know you're thrilled about this. I 477 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: just have to point out that for all of our 478 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: consternation previously, there will not be an eight and nine. 479 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: Thank god the playoffs. Thank god, we have four team 480 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs, and so there's no losers at 481 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: at worst, at worst, at worst nine and eight, um 482 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: at worst, nine and eight will be uh will be 483 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: a playoff team, and and very possible that all the 484 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs this year could have ten wins. 485 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: Just just saying saying no, no, no, that's that's great 486 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: that I'm joking with you, because because I know I'm trying, 487 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get you riled up, so I can't 488 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: figure out about all this eighteen week and extra team 489 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But anyway, we're running short on time, 490 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: so we'll let it go for today. Let it go. 491 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: I got I got one final thing one okay, all right, 492 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm just curious what do you think about this? And 493 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: then we'll we'll let Marv go to lunch. Um. Okay. 494 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: So do you think I'm gonna be upset when a 495 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: seven seed ends up winning this? More upset about the 496 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: seventh seed winning a super Bowl or more upset about 497 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: the seventh seed actually being in the playoffs at some 498 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: point when they're inevitably will be a seven and ten 499 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: or an eight nine team in the playoffs. I think, 500 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, for me. For me, it comes down 501 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: to the fact that that in this league, that say 502 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: a team whether you're talking seven ten or eight and 503 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: nine and they and they squeak in as a seven seed, 504 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 1: that that team, that that team could because anything can 505 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: happen any given week, as we know that that team 506 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: could knock off a thirteen and four two seed that 507 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: just has a bad day like in the first round, 508 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: when in the previous system that thirteen win two seed 509 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: has a buy and doesn't have to doesn't have to 510 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: play a team like that. That's where to me, um, 511 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, things will get things will get kind of annoying, frankly. 512 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: And and yeah, I mean we've seen, you know, in 513 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: the NHL, you know these eight seeds, you know, knock 514 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: off the one seed. Well, there is something that doesn't 515 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: feel quite right about that. But at the same time, 516 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: that's the best of seven s in those in those sports. 517 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: Right in the NFL, in football, it's it's a it's 518 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: a one shot deal. And and uh, I mean, we'll 519 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: see your point, though I agree with you that that 520 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: the way the San Francisco forty Niners are playing now 521 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: they have a very tough game to try to beat 522 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: the Rams and get into the playoffs. But the way 523 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: the Niners are playing, the way the Eagles are playing, 524 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: especially the way the Eagles are running the football. You know, 525 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: a ground game travels in the playoffs. I don't care 526 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: where you play, I don't care how hostile the environment 527 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: is when you're a road team. Those types of things, 528 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: you know it it will it will make for I think, 529 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: a very interesting wild card weekend in the NFC, even 530 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: if you're going to have you know, nine and ten 531 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: win teams going up against these twelve and thirteen win teams, 532 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: it's definitely gonna be It's definitely going to be in 533 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: anything can happen type of week. Yeah, and the Eagles 534 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: are really fun. I would like to see them beat somebody, though, 535 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: Like that's the thing. I mean, their their strength of 536 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: victory this year isn't great. I mean they've beaten teams 537 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: they've had to beat to be in this position. So 538 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: but but yeah, again, with their with the run defense, 539 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: the way that they're they're running the ball offensively, and 540 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts doing what he's doing, it's gonna be a 541 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: difficult team to out. Yeah. Well, we'll be able to 542 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: talk a lot more about that next week as well, 543 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: and we'll have another show on Thursday to preview the 544 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: game coming up against the Lions. But for now, we're 545 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: going to call it a wrap on this edition of 546 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our coverage 547 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: of the team all week long. We've got everything for 548 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: you on Packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike. Thanks 549 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: for tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time.