WEBVTT - What's the deal with Bond, James Bond? 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.800 Brought to you by the Reinvented twenty twelve Camri. It's ready. 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:09.160 Are you welcome to stuff you should know from HowStuffWorks 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:15.360 dot Com? 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:19.320 Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. Hi 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.320 with me is Charles W Chuck Bryant. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.360 Bryant. Charles Bryant, How. 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:29.400 Is it going? Chuck? It's an odd way to introduce yourself, didn't. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:31.480 You think not if you're a super spy? 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:33.840 Are you a superspy? Actually? 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.839 I wouldn't say James Bond was even a spy secret service? 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:42.960 Is that a spy? Really? No, he was an assassin 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.760 and yeah, just general plot disruptor. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.720 I would say he was a blunt instrument of the crown. 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.479 Yeah, if you wanted the job done and you couldn't 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.040 if you didn't have time to worry about you know, 0:00:56.080 --> 0:01:00.440 the politics or you know the diplomacy, that kind of thing. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:02.520 You just sent James Bond. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.040 Yeah, get JB on the phone double seven. Yeah, he'll 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:07.720 he'll take care of business. Like Elvis. 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.399 You could call him on his car phone long before 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.199 any car had a phone. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:17.280 Yeah all right, Oh yeah, he was always pre dating technology. Yeah. 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.319 As a matter of fact, there's a James Bond theory 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.240 of entrepreneurial innovation. 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:22.360 I believe that. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.600 And from Russia with Love nineteen sixty three. He talked 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:29.520 I can't remember who he talked to, but he was 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.520 in his car using the phone. Yeah, that was in 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.000 his car, and audiences went nuts for it. 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.000 Oh yeah, they were like, oh my god, he's on 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.119 the telephone right in a car. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.640 But that's what they sounded like in England though. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:49.360 Oh yeah, well sure that the actually Ghana right, So Josh, 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.760 where do we start here? We can't, we can't not 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.400 start with Ian Fleming. 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.120 Ian Fleming, So where we gotta start? Let's do it? No, 0:01:58.280 --> 0:01:59.800 that was there was a colon after that. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:05.400 Oh, and I mean Colin was as everyone knows, and 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.200 if you didn't, you need to get out from under 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:11.079 your rock that you reside in right now. The creator 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.840 of James Bond in novel form. 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:18.280 He was also originally a journalist and a stockbroker. And 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.360 World War Two starts to come around and he joins 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:28.800 the Naval Naval Volunteer Royal Navy, Royal Navy, and he 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.360 was actually Chuck did you know, assigned as a spy 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.760 himself in Washington, DC. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.320 Yeah, sort of a spy, you could call it. He 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:43.280 was in intelligence and he would occasionally he was an 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.480 administrative guy, but sometimes they would send him out to 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:50.080 do field work where he would take secret pictures of documents, 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:50.959 just like in the movies. 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.440 Do you know who was assigned to his spy unit. 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:56.519 James Bond? 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.239 Yeah? No, there was a guy who was the inspiration 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:04.360 for James Bond. His name was William Stevenson, aka Intrepid. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.880 Right, yeah, one of many inspirations. 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.160 Right. But in an interview in The Times in nineteen 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.880 sixty two, Fleming said, you know, James Bond is this 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:19.359 romanticized version of a spy. Bill Stevenson is the real thing. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.480 Right, well, in romantic version of himself. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.160 To an extenture, another member of that spy ring was 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:30.679 a guy named Roald Dahl who wrote James and the 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.720 Giant Peach and Charlie in the Chocolate Factory. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:34.680 Yeah, and a bunch of body books. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:35.200 Right. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.360 He also had the non children's books that were a 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.160 little racier. Yes, not many people know that. 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:44.400 So, Chuck, let's talk a little bit more about Ian Fleming. 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.160 Give it to us, buddy, Yeah, I mean, like I said, 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.400 he was, he sort of James based James Bond on 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.120 kind of I think who he wanted to be. He 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:57.160 was a playboy. He was an island hopper, an adventurer, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:01.520 an adventurer, a skier. He dove with Jock Custeau and 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.720 you know Snowski from the tops of mountains in Switzerland, 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:08.520 and had a place in Jamaica where he actually wrote 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:09.240 all these books. 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:13.640 Right, he named the place GoldenEye. And every year he 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.760 would go to Jamaica and write a book. And I 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.280 just want to dig him up and throttle him for that, 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:23.800 because I mean, what a life. Yeah, you know, yeah, Oh, 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.560 it's time for me to go to my estate in 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.560 Jamaica and write a book that's going to just make 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.039 me millions more. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.720 Yeah, which he did. And he reportedly picked the name 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.520 James Bond because he wanted the most boring name he 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.919 could find for his super secret agent. I think he 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:46.480 didn't want the name to compete with the actual character, 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.360 Like why bother giving him some fancy name, just shame 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.120 him James Bond and having kick. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.599 Butt, right, you know what the opposite of that is 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:55.440 hex saw Jim Duggan. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:57.880 Yeah, he should have named him that. 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.240 Yeah, well, then it would have competed with. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:06.760 The character Duggan. Hack saw Jim Duggan. I could hear that. So, yeah, 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.479 he wrote See the article says thirteen novels. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:12.640 Well, he wrote thirteen books. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:14.000 I got fourteen. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:15.400 What's the fourteenth? 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.560 Well, I've got twelve novels plus two short story collections 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.599 right for your Eyes only, and Octopusy in the Living 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.880 Daylights was another collection. Right, So it seems like it'd 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.599 be easier to find this out. But I literally saw 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:27.800 two different sets of information. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.680 Huh. So are we gonna go with fourteen? Because you 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.159 are quite the sniffer, Let's. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:34.560 Go with fourteenth total? 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:39.880 Okay, twelve novels, all right, But he wrote I think 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.799 he wrote the novels first, maybe or did he write 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.279 the short story books like in between? 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.680 Yeah, they were in between. They were toward the end. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.800 Okay, But so he was getting fat and lazy in Jamaica. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.040 Yeah, interestingly though, or maybe it's not that interesting. They 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.360 made the movies way out of order. 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:57.200 Yeah, they did. 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.880 Doctor Now was the first, but that was the sixth novel. 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:05.239 Right, But did you know that they originally the people 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.840 who made the official Bond movies originally wanted to make 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.760 Thunderball Thunderball was a story that Ian Fleming came up 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:16.200 with with another guy who who wanted the rights to 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.040 make a movie out of it. Oh really, that fell through, 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.640 but Ian Fleming went ahead and wrote the story anyway 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.480 that they came up with as Thunderball. The guy sued 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.160 his pants off and actually gained custody gained the rights 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:32.560 to the book Thunderball, which tied it up and made 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.719 them op for Doctor Not to go first instead. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:36.480 There was a lot of litigation over the years in 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:37.240 the Bond franchise. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:37.839 Yes, there was. 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.720 I guess when you have a franchise that long and 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.760 that vast, there's going to be people suing people over something. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.200 Well, plus it's a legendary he's a legendary character, and 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:48.920 you know he's made a lot of money for a 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:49.520 lot of people. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.640 Absolutely. The other interesting thing I thought just before we 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:56.440 move on, was that Moonraker was written in nineteen fifty five. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.800 That was a third novel that is insightful And of 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:03.120 course there wasn't a space shuttle like they changed the 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.880 setting and all that stuff, but it did involve like 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.920 a nuclear weapon, so you know, kind of odd. And 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:15.160 the Man of the Golden Gun, which was the Roger 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:19.760 Moore's second film was the final novel and it was 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.200 released after his death. Huh, so it was way out 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:22.560 of order. 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.760 And in that one he predicted Harve Vashe, which nobody 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.000 saw coming except Ian Fleming. Yeah you know right, Yeah, 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.200 it's weird. Let's talk about James Bond. 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.600 A little bit, the character James Bond. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.880 So it turns out James Bond had a Scottish father, 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.360 which it didn't originally. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:44.920 Now that came about because of Sean Connedy. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.239 Yeah. Ian Fleming was not a big fan of Sean 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:51.840 Connery first, and then Sean Connery is like, check this out, 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.560 and he made one peck go up while the other 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.880 went down a bunch of times, and Ian Fleming just 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.720 like clapped and squealed and that was that. Right. He 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.400 was a big fan, and he said, you know what 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:07.840 you are, James Bond. And he actually went back and 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.360 changed James Bond's history, yeah, to kind of Matt Sean 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.400 Connery a little bit because he came to see like, 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.760 this guy is Bond, right, Yeah, So he gave James 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:21.480 Bond a Scottish father, Andrew, and a Swiss mother Monique Delacroix, 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:25.160 and nice. Yeah, and they both died mountain climbing. Right. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:29.400 Yes, when little James was eleven years old, he went 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.360 to the orphanage, and he went to an orphanage. He 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:35.560 was supposedly born on November eleventh, nineteen twenty, but there 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.839 are different accounts of his birthday and when he was born. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.760 And clearly when you have a franchise with Daniel Craig 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.840 playing him in two thousand and eight, he can't be 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:45.760 born in nineteen twenty. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.760 Yeah, because body the exhibition wasn't showing in Miami in 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:51.880 like nineteen fifty eight or anything. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.679 So yeah, there's a sliding scale there obviously to make 0:08:54.720 --> 0:09:00.760 it viable. But James, much like his author namesake Ian Fleming, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:05.199 not namesake, and James Bond, much like the author Ian Fleming, was, 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.200 went to the Royal Navy in World War Two, rose 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:09.160 to the rank of commander. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:09.559 Yes. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.240 After the war, that's when he entered the sis known 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:14.319 as m I six. 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:18.120 Right, which is the sixth branch of the Military Intelligence Directorate. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.800 You got that, buddy, right, and his first two assignments chuck, Yeah, 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:23.000 we're two taps. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.760 They assassinations right off the bat, so. 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.240 He that's apparently you have to kill two people to 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.840 get a double OW status, which is the license to kill. 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.480 And he got them, like you say, right off the bat. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:35.240 Yeah, and he was the seventh dude to get him. 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.360 So that's where double O seven comes from, right, the 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:41.320 seventh agent. I shouldn't say dude, because they were were 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:46.719 their female agents. Yeah, there were female agents. Okay, I'm 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:47.240 pretty sure. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.040 Uh. And we should probably take the time here to 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:55.240 explain I like James Bond. I know that you like 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:56.400 James Bond movies too. 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.320 Is this the disclaimer we're gonna get killed here? 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:05.600 We are not members of James Bond fandom. I would say, 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:07.440 all right, I mean. 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.840 I've seen all the movies, but no, I haven't studied 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:10.640 the books. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.640 I've never read any of the books. I don't think 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.959 I've seen all the movies, but I do like them 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:21.040 in a very recreational manner. So that being said, we 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.240 are not going to get every single thing right here. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.000 If we are going to walk right past information sure 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:31.200 that we just don't know exists, so in a very 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.360 friendly manner. If there is anything that you have to 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.160 say that can round this podcast out even further, the 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.800 more we love knowing new things that's so please let 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:42.200 us know, I guess is what we're saying. 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.839 Right. Oh, they'll let us know. They will, except for 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.959 the three dudes that just turned it off into well, 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.160 they have no business even attempting this there. 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.200 And then they go give us a one star rating 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:51.920 on iTunes. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.959 So back to Bond. He as we all know as 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.679 a sharp dresser, and he loves fast cars, he loves 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.720 his more martini shaking that stirred. He loves women. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.480 Yeah. And do you know if you shake a Martine 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.480 instead of stirring it, you pretty much ruin it. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.280 I disagree. I shake all my martinis. Dude, how does 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:11.679 it ruin it? 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.000 It feathers it? 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:15.240 I think, what does that mean? 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:17.760 It means it's screwed up. What does that mean? 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.080 I like a good dirty Martini myself. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:22.720 Oh you like him dirty? 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.280 Oh? Yeah, gross, I said word. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:29.920 I like my Martini's so light. It's basically the savodk rock. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:32.560 So you just like the remooth bottle, Just wave near 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.920 the glass pretty much. I like just a little vermooth, 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:36.960 little olive juice, but no olive. 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.000 No olive juice. I'll put in all. I'll put three 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.840 olives in usually. Really all right, but then I eat 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:44.839 them so fast that they have no time to taint 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:46.400 the Martini. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.440 Well that's why you're not a super spy. So Josh 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:51.920 James Bond a couple of the other traits we should 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:56.080 just mention. He is a martial artist. He's a gifted 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.679 man with his fist and feet. Or if you're Roger Moore, 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:04.160 a Roddy chop yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that was a 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:09.240 big deal in the seventies. And he carried a famously 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:13.040 carried a Walter PPK handgun thirty two caliber. Yeah, and 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.040 that's the little guy. Have you ever seen him? Oh yeah, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:15.959 they're small. 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:21.000 And I've played Golden nine, played best game. Yeah, just 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.720 played Golden nine. It is a great game. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:24.640 Yeah, and you know they're bringing that back for we 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.839 I've heard Matt Frederick of coolelt Stuff on the Planet 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.079 told us that they are bringing that back because it's 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.079 still sort of the standard for first person shooters like 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.880 fifteen years on. Yeah, it's still a great game. So 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.400 they're bringing it back as is, like completely as it was, 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:41.640 but with better graphics. 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:43.320 That's going to be fantastic for the Wii. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:48.319 Yeah, pretty exciting. Back to the real life of the 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:49.680 fake Life of James Bond. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.120 That's how we should have titled this podcast. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.920 The Real Life of the Fake Life. Yeah, how about uh, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:58.240 let's talk about some of the enemies. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.160 Doctor No. He was the first one to appear in the. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.320 Films, Doctor Julius, now. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.520 Right, he's an atomic scientist. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.679 Yeah, he was, clearly. Joseph Wiseman played him, and he 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.320 was a great, great villain Goldfinger. You can't talk about 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.480 Bond without talking about Goldfinger. Yeah he was. You don't 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.079 like him, no, no, really, that was a big Goldfinger guy. 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.120 He tried to laser the crotch of James Bond. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.520 Oh yeah, that's right, pretty hardcore. It's like Max Scorpio 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.079 in that Simpsons where oh yeah, up, going to work 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.960 for the super villain, right, yeah, he's like, no, mister Bond, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.679 I expect you to die and be a very cheap funeral. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:40.719 Odd Job was one of my favorite, and he was 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.439 one of Goldman's henchmen in the big Asian guy with 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.360 the bowler hat that he could cut like the head 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:50.319 off a statue his hat. Huge, Yeah, very big dude. Jaws. 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.880 We grew up with Roger Moore, so you can't not 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:53.760 talk about Jaws. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.000 No, he was great too. He was in two of them, right, 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.839 he was in Moonraker and The Spy Who Loved Me. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:01.480 I thought he might have been more than that, but 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:02.320 he definitely. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:03.240 I looked it up. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.360 He was only in two two Really, I made quite 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:05.880 an impression. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:06.400 Yeah, he did. 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.600 He found the girlfriend in moon Breaker, I think, right, falls. 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:10.040 In love or something. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:11.280 Yeah, the little like nerdy girl. 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.439 And then he pops up again in Happy Gilmore. Was 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:14.880 he in that? 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:16.319 Yeah? I didn't see that. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.160 Yeah, he was Happy Gilmour's boss, like on the construction 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:21.600 site and ends up becoming a fan. 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:22.960 And wow, did he have the teeth? 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.400 No, he didn't have the piece for the movie, but 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:26.520 he was a big guy. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:27.200 Yes. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:27.680 Uh. 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:32.080 Lately we've had more recent villains that I don't think 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.240 the new villains compare personally. 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.520 No, they kind of come and go. You know, there's 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.360 like in Casino Royale. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.840 Yeah, I mean they're okay, but they're all the villain 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.240 was Yeah that that Like, they're all decent, but they're 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:49.120 not like iconic characters like they used to be. Right like, Yeah, Well, 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:53.160 Blofeld was the sort of legendary I don't know how 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.120 many movies he was in, but He was played by 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:59.880 like tell Donald Pleasance. Yeah, Donald Pleasants was my favorite version. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:00.440 He was good. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.120 And Max van Seado played him, I think, and uh, 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:05.560 never say never again. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.240 Maybe Max, he's a class act. 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.840 Yeah, I was, what did I watch the other day? Oh, 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.760 Shutter Island. He's in that. And I told lean over 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.200 to Emily. I was like, you know, I want to 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.680 see Max van Seadel play like a kindly grandfather in 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:21.080 a movie. I don't think anytime that dude pops up 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.040 in the movie, you're like, oh, well, he's the evil doer. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.080 He's the villain, or so you think until Shutter Island 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:28.240 falls apart at the end. 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:33.520 Don't ruin it. So yes, that was Blofeld. He was 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.680 the bald guy and he was the head of Specter, 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:41.080 which was the Special executive for Counterintelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion. 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.360 That's a great villainoist title there. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:48.680 That's not only like a great name, that's your mission statement. Yeah, 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.200 you know, all wrapped up in the one one of 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.800 my favorites, Max Zorin, played by the great Christopher Walkin. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:59.400 He was he was the I know you love that movie, 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.040 one of the best bomb movies ever. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.760 But that had the worst bond woman ever, Grace Jones. No, 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.400 Tanya Roberts, I don't remember her. She was the bond girl. 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:09.240 I don't remember. 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.800 She was the lady from the seventies show that was 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:16.600 like one of the late Charlie's Angels replacements. Tanya Roberts. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.000 Yeah, yeah, who cares. It was the eighties, nobody was 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:19.920 paying that much attention. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:21.000 But it was a good song. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.360 It was and Christopher Walkin was in it. Grace Jones 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:24.760 was in it. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:26.160 She was pretty scary in that. 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:31.080 Yeah, she was excellent. Talk about a martial artist. But 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.800 Max zorin Is did you know he was the product 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:40.120 of genetic experiments by Nazis. Walking was well not walking? 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:42.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't remember that. 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.160 Yeah. And one of the unintended side effects was he 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:47.400 was a complete psychopath. 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:49.280 I thought you were gonna say one of the side 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:54.480 effects was his use of punctuation. You were, good man. 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:56.280 Everybody does walking. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:57.520 I can't do it walking. 0:16:58.480 --> 0:16:58.920 Let's hear it. 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:05.040 My No, it's really just an altered John Travolta, Why 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:09.920 you so weird, dude? That's great, of course, Chuck, there's 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.480 double six Alec Trevlyn. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.520 Yeah, what was he? And that was one of the 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:17.000 Pierce Broson ones, wasn't it. 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.920 Yeah? I think yeah, it's I don't remember those. I 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.399 love Pierce Brosnon, like, oh he was good. The fact that, 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.680 like he wasn't James Bond earlier. He's like, oh yeah, 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.159 you're gonna cast Timothy Dalton, are you well, I'll go 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.040 beat Remington Steel jerks. 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.919 Yeah, And then they tried to get him again, right, 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.480 I think so, And he was committed to Remington Steele, 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:38.280 which was sort of like James Bond for TV. 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.320 Oh so did he do Remington Steel first? 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.720 Oh? Yeah, he did Remington Steele. Well, it goes back 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.720 and forth. There was like Timothy Dalton was offered the 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.119 role before Roger Moore. Did you know that? No, I didn't. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.119 When he was twenty one years old. Really he was 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.239 gonna replace Sean Connery. Well, and Dalton said I'm too 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.760 young to play James Bond. And then he comes around 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.879 years later just like just like uh, Brosnon did. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.359 Okay, But I am glad that Pierce Broson went in. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.480 I just happened to think that those his period of 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:07.800 movies were unfortunate. 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:09.240 I thought they were pretty good. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.560 I didn't like them now I'm really happy with Daniel 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.080 craigs stuff so far. 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.240 Well, you know my statement on that is that was 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.840 the only direction they could take that franchise after the 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.840 Jason Bourne movies. You couldn't have a guy like winking 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.320 at the camera like Roger Moore and like slapstick sounds 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.680 and sound effects. You had to take him into like 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.040 a real bad, bad direction. 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:37.560 Yes, you mean, like sim Ohaya bad. Yeah, So Double 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:41.680 six Alec Trevlyn, he is. I think he informs the 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.840 character Alex Krychek from X Files. 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:45.800 You think so? 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:46.120 Huh? 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.200 Sure, very nice, Josh. 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:49.640 Thanks. 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:51.720 All right, So those are some of the villains, clearly, 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.280 not all, but we should also talk about some of 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.639 the people that James Bond had working on his side 0:18:57.920 --> 0:18:59.000 at m I six. 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.520 All right, we will call from here on out the 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:03.920 superfluous characters. 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:09.480 No, dude, they're great. M Q M was the head 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.080 of m I six and there were several ms. It 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.080 was just a title and m was the one that's 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.840