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Speaker 1: Are you welcome to stuff you should know from HowStuffWorks

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Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. Hi

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Speaker 2: with me is Charles W Chuck Bryant.

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Speaker 3: Bryant. Charles Bryant, How.

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Speaker 2: Is it going? Chuck? It's an odd way to introduce yourself, didn't.

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Speaker 3: You think not if you're a super spy?

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Speaker 2: Are you a superspy? Actually?

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say James Bond was even a spy secret service?

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Speaker 2: Is that a spy? Really? No, he was an assassin

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Speaker 3: I would say he was a blunt instrument of the crown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you wanted the job done and you couldn't

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Speaker 2: if you didn't have time to worry about you know,

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Speaker 2: the politics or you know the diplomacy, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: You just sent James Bond.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, get JB on the phone double seven. Yeah, he'll

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Speaker 3: he'll take care of business. Like Elvis.

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Speaker 2: You could call him on his car phone long before

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Speaker 3: Yeah all right, Oh yeah, he was always pre dating technology. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, there's a James Bond theory

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Speaker 3: I believe that.

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Speaker 2: And from Russia with Love nineteen sixty three. He talked

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Speaker 2: I can't remember who he talked to, but he was

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Speaker 2: his car, and audiences went nuts for it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they were like, oh my god, he's on

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Speaker 2: But that's what they sounded like in England though.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well sure that the actually Ghana right, So Josh,

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Speaker 3: where do we start here? We can't, we can't not

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Speaker 3: start with Ian Fleming.

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Speaker 2: Ian Fleming, So where we gotta start? Let's do it? No,

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Speaker 2: that was there was a colon after that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, and I mean Colin was as everyone knows, and

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Speaker 3: if you didn't, you need to get out from under

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Speaker 3: your rock that you reside in right now. The creator

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Speaker 3: of James Bond in novel form.

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Speaker 2: He was also originally a journalist and a stockbroker. And

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Speaker 2: World War Two starts to come around and he joins

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Speaker 2: the Naval Naval Volunteer Royal Navy, Royal Navy, and he

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Speaker 2: was actually Chuck did you know, assigned as a spy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sort of a spy, you could call it. He

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Speaker 2: Do you know who was assigned to his spy unit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, there was a guy who was the inspiration

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, one of many inspirations.

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Speaker 2: Right. But in an interview in The Times in nineteen

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Speaker 2: sixty two, Fleming said, you know, James Bond is this

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Speaker 3: Right, well, in romantic version of himself.

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Speaker 2: To an extenture, another member of that spy ring was

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Speaker 2: a guy named Roald Dahl who wrote James and the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a bunch of body books.

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Speaker 3: He also had the non children's books that were a

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Speaker 2: So, Chuck, let's talk a little bit more about Ian Fleming.

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Speaker 2: Right, he named the place GoldenEye. And every year he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which he did. And he reportedly picked the name

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Speaker 2: hex saw Jim Duggan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he should have named him that.

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Speaker 3: The character Duggan. Hack saw Jim Duggan. I could hear that. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he wrote See the article says thirteen novels.

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Speaker 2: Well, he wrote thirteen books.

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Speaker 3: I got fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've got twelve novels plus two short story collections

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Speaker 3: Daylights was another collection. Right, So it seems like it'd

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Speaker 2: Huh. So are we gonna go with fourteen? Because you

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Speaker 2: Okay, twelve novels, all right, But he wrote I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were in between. They were toward the end.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But so he was getting fat and lazy in Jamaica.

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Speaker 2: Right, But did you know that they originally the people

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Speaker 2: but Ian Fleming went ahead and wrote the story anyway

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Speaker 2: that they came up with as Thunderball. The guy sued

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of litigation over the years in

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Speaker 2: Well, plus it's a legendary he's a legendary character, and

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. The other interesting thing I thought just before we

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Speaker 2: And in that one he predicted Harve Vashe, which nobody

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Speaker 2: it's weird. Let's talk about James Bond.

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Speaker 3: A little bit, the character James Bond.

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Speaker 2: So it turns out James Bond had a Scottish father,

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Speaker 3: Now that came about because of Sean Connedy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Ian Fleming was not a big fan of Sean

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Speaker 3: Yes, when little James was eleven years old, he went

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Speaker 3: And clearly when you have a franchise with Daniel Craig

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because body the exhibition wasn't showing in Miami in

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Speaker 3: So yeah, there's a sliding scale there obviously to make

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Speaker 2: Right, which is the sixth branch of the Military Intelligence Directorate.

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Speaker 3: So back to Bond. He as we all know as

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Speaker 2: It was and Christopher Walkin was in it. Grace Jones

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Speaker 2: Max zorin Is did you know he was the product

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Speaker 3: Everybody does walking.

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Speaker 2: My No, it's really just an altered John Travolta, Why

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then they tried to get him again, right,

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Speaker 3: I think so, And he was committed to Remington Steele,

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Speaker 3: When he was twenty one years old. Really he was

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Speaker 2: Okay, But I am glad that Pierce Broson went in.

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Speaker 2: I just happened to think that those his period of

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Speaker 2: I didn't like them now I'm really happy with Daniel

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Speaker 3: Well, you know my statement on that is that was

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Speaker 2: Yes, you mean, like sim Ohaya bad. Yeah, So Double

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Speaker 3: You think so?

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 3: Sure, very nice, Josh.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 3: All right, So those are some of the villains, clearly,

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Speaker 3: No, dude, they're great. M Q M was the head

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Speaker 2: You should say he or she for m true Dame

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, she's doing a great job too. Q is

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Speaker 2: Judy Dench, did you hear that? Chuck just said you

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Speaker 3: Keep it up. Danger. Dame Dame, Dame Dame, Yeah, she's

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Speaker 2: That's Q, right, And he's now been replaced by his

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Or the Roger more Key that I loved?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Who else we got?

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Speaker 2: Felix Leer who I like Jack Lord Jeffrey Wright both

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Speaker 3: Was he Cia?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: He was around before the Dea was was he Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, bad movie. And then of course we have

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Speaker 3: to mention Moneypenny. He was M's personal assistant and Moneypenny.

445
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 3: You always knew Moneypenny because James would come in and

446
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 3: flirt very much with her, and I always got the

447
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 3: sense that if James were to ever settle down with anyone,

448
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 3: which he clearly won't, it would have been Moneypenny sure,

449
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 3: or at least he made her think that. Right. Every

450
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: day was Secretary's day when James Bond was around. He

451
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 3: was always just so nice to her, bringing her things

452
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: from his travels, shot glasses and stuff.

453
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: Right, spoons, She had an extensive spoon collection, refrigerator, magnets, Chuck, Josh,

454
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 2: let's talk about the movie show. Yeah, sure, well let's

455
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: talk about James Bond on screen because it wasn't necessarily

456
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: just relegated to the movies.

457
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, good point.

458
00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: So James Bond first appears on screen on the small

459
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 2: screen on a CBS TV series called Climax with an

460
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: exclamation point really yeah wow, And he was first played

461
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,239
Speaker 2: by a guy named Barry Nelson. Barry Nelson you may

462
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 2: recognize as mister Olman, the manager of the Overlook in

463
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: Kubrick's The Shining who tells Jack Torres the ropes. That's

464
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: the first guy to ever play James Bond.

465
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: Wow? Was he English?

466
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: No?

467
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 3: American?

468
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: Yes, CBS TV series.

469
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 3: So we've had a Scotsman's quite a few Englishmen, an

470
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: American and an Australian.

471
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Speaker 2: And what what do you mean Australian?

472
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 3: I mean someone from Australia. That was George Lazamy was Australian?

473
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,479
Speaker 2: Was it? You know what happened to him?

474
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 3: Well, he wasn't much of an actor.

475
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't just that he after the success of

476
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: his Bond movie. I mean he played James Bond and

477
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: it was you know, filmed and produced.

478
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 3: And released on Her Majesty's Secret Service.

479
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: Right, he was like, Holy Colm, James Bond, and I'm

480
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: going to buy a boat and sail around the world

481
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: for a while. And he came back and his star

482
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: had already faded because he did one thing and that

483
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: was that. Oh really, yeah, he kind of blew it.

484
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: He wasn't much of an actor either.

485
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: It wasn't but it wasn't just that. It was Yeah,

486
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: it was a combination of those two things.

487
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: He was a bad dude though, Like he he got

488
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: the role apparently because he impressed Ian Fleming because he

489
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: had a faux fight scene with a wrestler for his

490
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 3: audition and he actually punched the guy, like got mad

491
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 3: and punched him, and Fleming's like, this is hard, dude. Wow.

492
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Fleming wrote the Bond character is much darker.

493
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, the novel character for sure, Like.

494
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 2: Roger Moore took it in a very awful direction, pacific direction.

495
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: You know that was not the least bit like how

496
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: Ian Fleming had written them.

497
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Speaker 3: You're the ultimate Roger Moore apologist. I love he's good

498
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 3: in The Saint and that's why I got the role,

499
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 3: I think. Okay, the TV show The.

500
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 2: Saint, all right, So Chuck, let's get back to the

501
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: beginning again. So we talked about Barry Nelson and on

502
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: the big screen, the first Bond ever was Sean Connery.

503
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, well they did. They did a pilot though

504
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 3: on TV as well.

505
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: That's the Barry Nelson one.

506
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 3: Oh, it was called Casino Royale though.

507
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: No, right, it was based on Casino Royal or Gotcha Climax, okay,

508
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: which I think. You know how they used to do,

509
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 2: like they would have the name of the series, but

510
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: then there'd be like different like like Wonderful World of Disney. Yeah,

511
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 2: it was like the name of the series, but then

512
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: there were different like documentaries or gotcha tunes or whatever.

513
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: Okay, I think it was like that, and that flopped.

514
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: And I didn't know what they were doing with TV

515
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: back in the day.

516
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: They had no idea. So yeah, you're right, Doctor I

517
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 3: was the first film in nineteen sixty two and there's

518
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: been twenty two in total. No, yes, and we're waiting,

519
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 3: and that's official Bond films. Because they parodied him and

520
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 3: other things. What he Allen played him for Heaven's sake.

521
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and in the parody he did of Casino Royale.

522
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

523
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 2: There's also a an unofficial Bond film with an official Bond, right,

524
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: let's hear it, Never Say Never Again.

525
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was Connrie's that was also fraught with the lawsuits.

526
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: You know, that was based on the Thunderball lawsuit.

527
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they remade Thunderball, right, and they named.

528
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: It Never Say Never Again because Conrie had said after

529
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy one that he'd never play Bond again because

530
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: he played Bond what for the first like six movies

531
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: something like that, one, two.

532
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 3: Three, four, five, and then George Lazenby then he came

533
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: back and did Diamonds or Forever.

534
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 2: And then after that came Roger Moore. Yes, and then

535
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 2: Roger Moore had a pretty good run. So Sean Connery

536
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: stops playing Bond. George Lazenby comes along, does it once leaves,

537
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 2: Sean Connery has to come back another time. After Sean Connery,

538
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: they get Roger Moore. In the midst of Roger Moore's run,

539
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 2: Sean Connery makes another Bond film, That's The Kid. Twelve

540
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 2: years after the last one he'd made.

541
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and yeah, Ken Beasinger was the bonche and

542
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: that one she was.

543
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 2: And they called it never Say Never Again because he'd

544
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: said that he would never play Bond again.

545
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: Never Trebek, That's what he said, right, Timothy Dalton, I

546
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 3: guess we might as well venture into his years.

547
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw those when they first came out, like

548
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: in the theaters, and I didn't think anything of them.

549
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if they were over my head or whatever,

550
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: but I didn't like them.

551
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 3: They were pretty good living daylights and licensed to kill.

552
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 3: They were both.

553
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: Are they good? Really?

554
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean they were. It was definitely a more

555
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 3: novelistic Bond, like he was darker and a little more

556
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: bad dude, and that, I mean it might have had

557
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 3: something to do with it was coming off the heels

558
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 3: of Roger Moore in his vaudeville act that he brought

559
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: to Bond and Dalton had a two picture run and

560
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: then was replaced by who everyone thought should have been

561
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: Bond before Dalton, Pierce Brosnan for one, two, three, four films, right,

562
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: and then they went the inevitable direction with a blonde

563
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: Bond with Daniel Craig. Is that inevitable, you think, well,

564
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: I meant the inevitable way of making him a tough dude.

565
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, his blindness was not inevitable. You know.

566
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: You make fun of Roger Moore, but he had a

567
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: seven picture stint as James Bond.

568
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that was our childhood, trust me, dude.

569
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: At the time, I loved it. But then when I

570
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: got older, I revisited all of the Sean Conneries, and

571
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 3: then I saw the butt kickingness of Timothy Dalton and

572
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: now Daniel Craig, And now I'm kind of like Roger

573
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: World was kind of a joke to me. No, you

574
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: still stand by it, I do, all right.

575
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: I like Roger Moore.

576
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: Sam Neil was considered at one point.

577
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: I could see him as James Bond.

578
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: He would have been mad.

579
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: He was great and dead calm.

580
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a good movie.

581
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know that this even qualifies as

582
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: a podcast.

583
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: People can be like you guys are just kind of

584
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: chit chatting, schuck.

585
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: There's also theories, tons of them. Best one, actually, the

586
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: only one I could find really is the code name Theories.

587
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: Have you heard this? I have not cracked. I got

588
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: a lot of publicity for it by. It's a fan

589
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: theory that basically says, James Bond is a it's a

590
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: name that goes along with double O seven, and there's

591
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: each actor was playing an actual different person who had

592
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: assumed this undercover name James Bond. Really, which explains the

593
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: changes in personality. Yeah, it explains why Sean Connery was

594
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: so suave and Roger Moore was so goofy. Sure, it

595
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: explains why Daniel Craig and Timothy Dalton were so violent.

596
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: It explains a lot of stuff. Actually explains George Lazenby's

597
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: departure because his wife, the only time James Bond has

598
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: ever been married, died in that one honor her Majesty's

599
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: Secret Service.

600
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a wife most people don't know, and

601
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: she was.

602
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: Killed by Blofeld. Right, so he leaves after that. That

603
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: explains that, right, absolutely. There's actually holes in that theory.

604
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: Do you know them?

605
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: I know a couple like, for example, George Lazenbee recognized

606
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: gadgets that were debuted during Sean Connery's tenure. He was

607
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: a new person. He would it would be new to him.

608
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: He'd be like, what's his start gun?

609
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: Right, exactly right. And I think The Spy who Loved

610
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: Me Roger Moore is recognized from his college days at

611
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: Cambridge as James Bond, which would mean that he was

612
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: using the name before then. But it's still a pretty

613
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: cool theory. If you want any cool theory shot down,

614
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: I recommend you go to Commander Bond dot net, am

615
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: I six dot co dot uk or James Bondwiki dot

616
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: com as are some good sites.

617
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna retrack my Roger Moore bashing a little bit.

618
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: Okay.

619
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: I actually liked like four out of seven of his films.

620
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: Okay, see, so you're right.

621
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: I forget sometimes I forget about the awesomeness of Live

622
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: and Let Die and Man with a Golden Gun for

623
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: Your Eyes Only. Those were all pretty good. It was

624
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: like octopusy Moonraker was really silly, does not age well

625
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: at all. And if you do a kill, I just

626
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: can't get behind him.

627
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: You do a kill is awesome. What about The Spy

628
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: who Loved Me? That's the one with the Greater Water lotus?

629
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, great, great movie.

630
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: And I have one last fact. Are you ready?

631
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

632
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: The legendary Bond producer co producer Albert cubby broccoli. Yeah,

633
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: his family invented broccoli. They crossed cauliflower with rabe and

634
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: invented broccoli. And he actually left the family farm to

635
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: go to Hollywood to pursue his fortune when he was.

636
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: Like eighteen, are you making this? I am not. He

637
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: invented broccoli.

638
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: His family did his like parents, grandparents.

639
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good fact.

640
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: Broccoley.

641
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: Very cool. Good for him. They're in trouble now though,

642
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: because MGM is in trouble.

643
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're saying like it's just a blip on

644
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: the radar. If you listen to any anybuddy who's attached

645
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: to the Bond twenty three.

646
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: Oh, it'll happen at some point.

647
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: But they're like this, it's fine.

648
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's being delayed big time though, because MGM's and

649
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: over their heads financially.

650
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: If you know anything about MGM, if you're an insider

651
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: at MGM, we want to hear from you. Let us

652
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: know what's going on with Bond.

653
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: That's funny, we should. We got to talk about Bond girls.

654
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: That's one of the hallmarks of Bond films, and usually

655
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: there's two Bond girls at least there's like a hot

656
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: villain and like a hot an aid that helps him

657
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: out in some way. Sometimes she turns out to be

658
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: a villain. But there's usually two Bond girls and he's

659
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: equally attracted to both.

660
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: Like Grace Jones.

661
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's attracted to her for some reason. They are

662
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: fem fatales. Like I said, Bond cannot help but fall

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Speaker 3: for them, even though they it might mean he has

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Speaker 3: to eventually kill them after he makes sweet love to them. Right,

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna go ahead and ask you what your

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Speaker 3: favorite Bond girl is.

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Speaker 2: I just recently realized that Carrie Lowell was a Bond

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Speaker 2: girl and I used to have the biggest crush on

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Speaker 2: her when I would watch Wild Record No Law and

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Speaker 2: Order reruns on A. Yeah, they used to show like

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Speaker 2: Law and Order for like eight hour blocks on A

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Speaker 2: and E, and I'd be like, I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: class today, I'm just gonna watch Law and Order. And

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Speaker 2: she was on a lot of them. Yeah, she she

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Speaker 2: would be my favorite Bond girl.

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Speaker 3: I'm going with Ursula Andres. Yeah, she was hot dude

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Speaker 3: back in the day. She played honey Rider. And that's

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Speaker 3: another hallmark of the Bond women is they usually had

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Speaker 3: really awful names that hinted it sexual innu window, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, plenty o Tool, Honey Rider, pussy Galore, actually Solitaire,

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Speaker 3: Jane Seymour. She was pretty good in Living Let Die

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Speaker 3: like that. She was actually a really good actor, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Moonraker of course had a Holly gooodhead and a view

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Speaker 3: to a kill. I had Tanya Rhart's as Stacy Sutton.

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Speaker 3: They didn't even give her a cool name.

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Speaker 2: So, Chuck, what's the best Bond theme song? Well, let

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Speaker 2: me take a wild guess.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Live and Let Die is probably my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Because I would have put the thousand dollars on that.

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Speaker 3: Or what's her name? Carly Simon spy who loved me?

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Speaker 3: Nobody does it better? Love that song?

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Speaker 2: Best fond theme song if it's not You Kill, Okay,

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Speaker 2: if it's not that, it is Nancy Sinatra singing You

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Speaker 2: Only Live Twice?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was awesome. Yes it was Shirley Bassie. Just

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Speaker 3: another little factoid.

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Speaker 2: She did.

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Speaker 3: No, she did more than that. She did a gold Finger,

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Speaker 3: she did Diamonds or Forever, she did Moon Raker, Moon

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Speaker 3: Raker's that's three total. I was also a big fan

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Speaker 3: of she and a Easton's For Your eyes Only, Yes,

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Speaker 3: she did and read a Coolidge all time high from Octopussy.

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Speaker 2: Didn't Tom Jones do Thunderball or something?

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Speaker 3: He did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: He did Thunderball. And since we're talking about the songs

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Speaker 3: that have really gotten lame in recent years, like the

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Speaker 3: Chris Cornellen and Garbage, you probably didn't even remember they

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Speaker 3: did songs.

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Speaker 2: Garbage did the one for World is Not Enough?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, Pierce Brosnan, Yeah, and Sheryl Crowe did one,

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Speaker 3: did she really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And Madonna did one and and now it's gotten to

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Speaker 3: the point where they're just like, like the last one,

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Speaker 3: they put Jack White with Alicia Keys.

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Speaker 2: Up next is Miley Cyrus. Oh God, say it ain't

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Speaker 2: so Bond twenty three?

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Speaker 3: Uh, what else do we have here?

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Speaker 2: This is the podcast that won't die. No, I do

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Speaker 2: have this Like James Bond, it just goes on.

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Speaker 3: I do have a couple more facts. Okay, Well, first

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Speaker 3: of all, before you move on, if we're going to

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Speaker 3: talk about the songs, we need to talk about the

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Speaker 3: opening sequences, the title sequences. When you're a young Baptist

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Speaker 3: boy and there are naked, silhouetted women jumping on trampolines, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's very titillating and arousing and arousing for a young

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Speaker 3: boy named Chuck.

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Speaker 2: I'm titillated and aroused.

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Speaker 3: And then the opening sequence of the films typically is

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Speaker 3: some awesome action scene, and then the title sequence comes up.

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Speaker 3: There'll be like a seven minute action scene.

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Speaker 2: Right. They call it a cold opening, Buddy.

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Speaker 3: A cold opening.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: That's very nice. And I just got a couple of

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Speaker 3: more facts for you, Josh, and then I'll let you

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Speaker 3: put this to bed all right with what would you

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Speaker 3: say is the highest grossing Bond film of all time

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Speaker 3: adjusted gross adjusted gross?

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Speaker 2: I would say Casino Royale No.

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Speaker 3: Top two all time Thunderball and gold Finger. You're a

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Speaker 3: liar adjusted gross, you know.

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00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: Casino Royale worldwide netted like almost six hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: so far.

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Speaker 3: A bunch of money. Thunderball and Goldfinger did more, did

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Speaker 3: they really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Thunderball and nineteen sixty five dude, gross to one hundred

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Speaker 3: and forty one million dollars?

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Speaker 2: What and is that worldwide or US?

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Speaker 3: That's worldwide? And that is close to what Licensed to

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Speaker 3: Kill gross in nineteen eighty nine, that grows like one

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty something. And Thunderball you know, thirty years

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Speaker 3: more grossed one hundred and forty.

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Speaker 2: One million, right, But what I'm saying is Casino Royale

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Speaker 2: gross six hundred million.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, that's not an adjusted gross though you.

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Speaker 2: Can't compare, you're figuring inflation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it's called an adjusted gross. And that's

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Speaker 3: about it. I mean, we could say the cars he

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Speaker 3: used real quickly, the Aston Martin obviously, my favorite is

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Speaker 3: the Lotus, The Lotus, the Alpha Romeo, and then that

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Speaker 3: new Audi. That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Do you like the Audi?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks awesome, Okay, but I do miss the

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Speaker 3: Lotus and the fact that it could also be a submarine. Right.

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Speaker 2: And lastly, Chuck, I would like to say to all

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Speaker 2: the kids of our generation, if you ever noticed the

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Speaker 2: similarity between Inspector Gadget and James Bond, you were dead on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you think so?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, So that's about it. If you want

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Speaker 2: to know more about James Bond, Like I said, there

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00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: are three, at least three really good websites for all

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Speaker 2: things Bond fans, you can check out our website by

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Speaker 2: taping James Bond brings up a bunch of stuff in

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Speaker 2: the handy search bar and now, if you can believe it,

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Speaker 2: it is time for listener mail.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Josh, I'm gonna call this samurai stuff from Thomas Guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm a total samurai geek. I practiced Japanese sword based

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Speaker 3: martial arts kindo and ayido. I've read all this material

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Speaker 3: about samurai and your podcast was a very good introduction,

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Speaker 3: and I thank you for it. However, I am kind

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Speaker 3: of surprised you did not mention the greatest Samurai of

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Speaker 3: all time, Miyamoto Musashi. This guy was the epitome of

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Speaker 3: everything samurai were supposed to be. A dedicated soyvant, a poet,

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Speaker 3: a painter, a calligrapher, philosopher, a general, and an all

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Speaker 3: round butt kicking killer. Not only did he write the

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Speaker 3: Book of Five Rings, he also killed sixty men in

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Speaker 3: single combat before age forty, not to mention all the

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Speaker 3: guys he killed in warfare. At one point in your

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Speaker 3: podcast you talked about the wooden katana called kung in Japanese. Yes,

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Speaker 3: it was a practice sword, Josh, but it was also

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Speaker 3: a weapon in its own right. Because Japan is such

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Speaker 3: a wet climate, swords were sometimes destroyed by rust. Bucan

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Speaker 3: were cheap and easy to replace, and Musashi was famous

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Speaker 3: for winning some of his greatest battles with the wooden sword.

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Speaker 3: Ow I know, can you imagine.

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Speaker 2: Dude ow Go being smacked to death?

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Speaker 3: Well, he says instead of cutting someone's heads off, he

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Speaker 3: would brain them, which I guess means like you crack

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Speaker 3: their skull, yeah, until their brains come out. Also, he

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Speaker 3: was a big fan of using two swords at one time,

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Speaker 3: sometimes two katana, sometimes the short and the long. Whatever

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Speaker 3: it took to do the job. You guys, Rocket love

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Speaker 3: your show. I'm grateful for the Samurai show from Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you Thomas for the extra information. As I said,

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Speaker 2: we are always interested in knowing everything we possibly can

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Speaker 2: about a subject. So if you have anything to tell

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Speaker 2: us about James Bond that we missed, that we got wrong,

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Speaker 2: that we need to know, we want to hear it,

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Speaker 2: wrap it up and send it in any don't forget

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