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Speaker 1: Here's Craiggriolou, Darren Urban and three time pro bowler Kyle

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Speaker 1: Vandenbosch Well.

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Speaker 3: NFL training camps are open. Nine teams at rookies report

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Speaker 3: today the Cardinals one week from today, rookies and veterans report.

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Speaker 3: The question I asked you, though, Kyle, are you ready

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Speaker 3: to report to training camp for Will this be the

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Speaker 3: how many years post playing career we just say just

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Speaker 3: report to training camp?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely not. First of all, Secondly, I got to get

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Speaker 5: myself ready for this for this season. I printed off

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Speaker 5: a bunch of stuff I was gonna bring with me,

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Speaker 5: and as always, it's still sitting in my print there,

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Speaker 5: so of course I apologize if I'm not prepared today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the vacations somewhat over with, but yeah, training camp

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Speaker 3: literally right around the corner State Farm Stadium, powered by Cox,

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Speaker 3: and yes, the first open training camp practice is Thursday,

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Speaker 3: July twenty seventh, the back together weekend Saturday July twenty third,

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Speaker 3: h shoot me July twenty ninth, and then the earliest

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Speaker 3: padded practice allowed Monday, July thirty. First, no guarantee the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals are in pads that day, but Darren, that is

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Speaker 3: the earliest we can see a padded practice, and that's

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Speaker 3: when football really begins.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's always interesting those first few day, even with

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Speaker 6: open practices, because they're not gonna be able to do

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Speaker 6: a whole lot, given how the CBA is these days

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Speaker 6: ramp up. And look, I can't believe, quite frankly that

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Speaker 6: we're sitting here talking about this. But then again, my

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Speaker 6: just went to year round schedule, so that she's already

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Speaker 6: back at work and the kids are back at school,

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Speaker 6: so I guess it's that time.

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Speaker 3: And for those that want to watch a training camp practice,

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Speaker 3: it is air conditioned. That's inside State Farm Stadium, so

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Speaker 3: that is always a plus. But what people want to

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Speaker 3: know here on the Cardinals Red Seat Report presented by

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Speaker 3: seat kekick your ticket to Grede Seats, Kyler Murray. Yes,

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Speaker 3: he will be at training camp. When will be he

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Speaker 3: on the football field. That's a big question and will

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Speaker 3: continue to be a question. But recently on Cardinals' flight

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Speaker 3: plan we heard and saw Kyler Murray really hearing from

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Speaker 3: in December surgery on January third. But just a big

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Speaker 3: available on the Cardinals YouTube page, YouTube dot com slash

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Speaker 3: Azy Cardinals. But just before we hear from Kyler himself, Kyle,

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Speaker 3: what was your big takeaway from what was a plus

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Speaker 5: There's a lot First of all, excellent, if you haven't

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Speaker 5: watched it, go watch it. You don't get a lot

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Speaker 5: of glimpses into Kyler the person. You hear a lot

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Speaker 5: from Kyler the player, and it was so good. You know,

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Speaker 5: everything Kyler has done this offseason, at least in my opinion,

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Speaker 5: how he has grown, and how he has matured. And look,

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Speaker 5: you can have a good football team without having your

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Speaker 5: And I've said this over and over and over in

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter your draft status, it doesn't matter how

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Speaker 3: We know Kyler Murray the player, what he can do

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Speaker 3: latest episode of Cardinals four plan Darren is more Kyler

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think it was good to see that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you asked Kyle what his first reaction was,

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Speaker 6: One of the things that I've long noticed, and unfortunately

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Speaker 6: Kyle's been through injury like this before. You know a

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Speaker 5: Now you're you're absolutely right, and I've said, you know,

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Speaker 5: this year. It is to me it was the mental aspect.

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Speaker 5: My first ACL I got rolled into and I could

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Speaker 3: Let's go back to when this all began. It was

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Speaker 3: as he talked on flight Plan, that's when his season ended.

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Speaker 8: You know, I got better every year and then to

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Speaker 9: Year four especially after going through the whole contract thing,

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Speaker 8: I think winning cures all.

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Speaker 9: And it's been tough to do that with some of

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Speaker 8: But I think we're heading the right direction.

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Speaker 3: And that right there is key, Kyle, because whatever Kyler

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And you know, to Darren's point, like Kyler can

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Speaker 5: You know, he's he understands the levity of this situation.

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Speaker 3: Again, we don't know exactly when we will see Kyler

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Speaker 9: I've brought a lot off the field and on the field,

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Speaker 9: whether you know, trying to show people that now. But yeah,

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Speaker 9: I'm wiser, you know, emotionally, you know, learning how to

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Speaker 9: how to talk to certain people. Some people maybe you'll

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Speaker 3: By the way that buzzing you. Here in the background,

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray is sitting down in a barber's chair getting

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Speaker 3: We saw Kyler in a number of different settings, and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think all leaders have to understand that, whether

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Speaker 3: One more from Kyler again. It's season six, episode five

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Speaker 7: The vision of how I want to play defense and

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Speaker 3: Nick as in Nick Rowlins linebackers coach with the Philadelphia

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Speaker 3: Greg Reia, lukav Anabash and Darren Urban. And we'll begin

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Speaker 3: Given the lack of quality depth at d line. Currently,

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Speaker 3: Cardinals do still have three open roster spots. Keep that

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Speaker 6: and uh, and it usually starts with something there there

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Speaker 6: is a scheme. He just he doesn't want to get

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Speaker 6: in and will there be more adjustments, Sure, there will

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Speaker 6: be more adjustments, But this idea that people have taken

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Speaker 6: what he said and kind of run with, well, it's

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Speaker 6: gonna be this ultra fluid and you know, one week,

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Speaker 6: one week he could be running, you know, two down linemen.

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Speaker 6: In the next week he could have five guys on

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Speaker 6: the line. I don't I mean, there might be some

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Speaker 6: sub packages here and there, but I'm pretty sure there's

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Speaker 6: gonna be one basic thing that they kind of move

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Speaker 6: off of, and that's fine. I think that's why to me,

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Speaker 6: training camp is going to be so exciting to watch

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Speaker 6: because with the open practices, we're gonna get to see it.

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Speaker 6: We're he's not gonna be able to say, well, we're

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Speaker 6: not really using a scheme, because we're gonna be out

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Speaker 6: there watching how they're like up every day. And my

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Speaker 6: guess is it's not going to be so crazy that

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Speaker 6: every day it looks completely different. It's going to look

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Speaker 6: it's going to look like something, and we'll see it

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Speaker 6: soon enough.

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Speaker 8: Again.

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Speaker 3: The first open training camp practice at State Farm Stadium

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Speaker 3: is Thursday, July twenty seventh. Cardinals Training Camp powered by

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Speaker 3: Cox Now. Recently the Day Pash Podcast again a guest

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Speaker 3: with Pash and asked what this defense.

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Speaker 8: Will look like.

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Speaker 7: We'll have elements of what we did in Philly, But

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Speaker 7: my first thing about schematics is it's all about the

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Speaker 7: players that you have and who you're going again, so

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Speaker 7: I don't really care what we look like as long

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Speaker 7: as we're executing at a high level and doing enough

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Speaker 7: on each all three phases to win the game. We

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Speaker 7: play significantly different from week to week. That's predicated on

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Speaker 7: who we have and who they have. So I think

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Speaker 7: that's the main point is I want us to be adaptable.

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Speaker 3: Again, going back to what we heard earlier in the

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Speaker 3: show from Kyler Murray winning cures ault. If this team

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Speaker 3: is successful on defense, it doesn't matter what kind of

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Speaker 3: ded defense is run out there, who how many different

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Speaker 3: defensive linemen or how many different safeties. If you're stopping

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Speaker 3: the offense getting off the field, that's all anyone really

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Speaker 3: cares about. The background though of Gannon is a four

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Speaker 3: to three. Part of that conversation with Dave Patch on

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Speaker 3: the Day Patch Podcast was Gannon's influences, Mike Zimmer, Jerry Gray,

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Speaker 3: Matt Eberflus all for three, but we hear Gannon say

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Speaker 3: he wants to be adaptable. What do the players think

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Speaker 3: about this defense that not only Gannon but Nick Rolis

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Speaker 3: will have a hand in. Here's Jalen Thompson.

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 10: It's a little different than last year, you know what

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Speaker 10: I mean. I feel like this year it's kind of

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Speaker 10: a little bit more. He lets the players be a

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Speaker 10: little more free out there.

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Speaker 8: You know what I mean, maybe not.

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Speaker 10: So robotic, I feel like, and I feel like that's

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Speaker 10: gonna lead to more plays being made.

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Speaker 3: You hope that's the case, Darren, that more plays are

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Speaker 3: being made? And how much freedom? And I guess the

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Speaker 3: follow up question to Jalen would be, all right, what

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Speaker 3: kind of freedom are you having? Because that whole do

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Speaker 3: your job, know your role, Okay, don't get too far

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Speaker 3: away from what your assignment is, because now hey, we

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Speaker 3: get to play more free.

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Speaker 6: Yeah again, I don't know exactly what Jalen in particular

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Speaker 6: is referencing compared to Dance Joseph. I always felt like

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Speaker 6: these players really loved playing for Vance Joseph and the

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Speaker 6: kind of things he did. You know, Gannon has brought

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Speaker 6: up the kind of the analogy of having you you

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Speaker 6: don't have to you can you can kind of freelance

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Speaker 6: a little bit, but it has to be within the

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Speaker 6: lines of what they're doing, kind of like a coloring thing.

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Speaker 6: And again, I don't know what that means. I still

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Speaker 6: think and this goes back to what Kyle was saying

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Speaker 6: earlier about the pass rush. You still got to have dudes,

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Speaker 6: you still got to have guys. And I think the

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Speaker 6: question right now is what kind of playmakers does this

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Speaker 6: defense have. Do they have the talent that they're going

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Speaker 6: the need to play against some of these offenses that

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Speaker 6: they have on the schedule. And I think there's a

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Speaker 6: lot of questions there, and scheme will get you a

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Speaker 6: certain amount, but talent still rules in this game. And

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Speaker 6: you know it's it's I go back to the Seahawks

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Speaker 6: defenses all those years with the Legion of Boom. They

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Speaker 6: were great because of the players they had. They were

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Speaker 6: playing a fairly basic scheme, but they had some great players.

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Speaker 6: So again, scheme will take you this far, but it's

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Speaker 6: it's about the players. Can they take you most of

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Speaker 6: the way.

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Speaker 3: And it goes back to what you referenced earlier, Kyle, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Eagles did not blitz because they didn't need to. Now

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals, do they need to blitz or can you

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Speaker 3: get pressure with four or five or you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to start manufacturing and bring extra bodies to affect the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, listening to the last couple of comments,

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Speaker 5: you know it's about even Jonathan Gannon saying it's about

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Speaker 5: who we have and who they have. It's this is

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Speaker 5: a matchup league, right Can you cover the number one

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Speaker 5: receiver with a corner or do you need to roll

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Speaker 5: coverage to him? And that's something that will change week

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Speaker 5: to week. And you always want to find the best matchups.

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Speaker 5: If you have one or two elite pass rushers, you

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Speaker 5: try to find that fish on the offensive line and

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Speaker 5: you get them lined up on them. And and that's

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Speaker 5: that's what you know, I like hearing is Look, it's

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Speaker 5: it's not you know, you slap it up on the board.

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Speaker 5: This is our defense is how we're gonna run it.

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Speaker 5: The fluidity is we're gonna take advantage of matchups and

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Speaker 5: we're gonna figure out what puts us in the best

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Speaker 5: position with these matchups. And again, going back to past comments,

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Speaker 5: one of the things I love hearing both with the

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Speaker 5: offense and the defense is they sit down and tell

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Speaker 5: the players, though, why why we're going to run this

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Speaker 5: coverage or why we're gonna blitz this gap, And for

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Speaker 5: players to be invested and understand, Hey, on this third down,

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Speaker 5: this is why we're gonna run this coverage, This is

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Speaker 5: why we're gonna drop this defensive end into the flat.

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Speaker 5: That is huge. For players to be invested and be

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Speaker 5: a part of it and understand not just coaches telling

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Speaker 5: them what to do, but involving them in the process

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Speaker 5: and understanding their thinking and why they're doing the things

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Speaker 5: they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Again, we'll get more of an idea what this defense

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Speaker 3: will look like when training camp begins. We'll also get

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Speaker 3: an idea what this offense will look like and how

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Speaker 3: they'll start lining up, specifically on the OL line. That's

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Speaker 3: the next topic of conversation as we continue here on

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Speaker 3: Darren Durban. When we come back the offense, a first

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Speaker 3: year offensive coordinator Drew Petsing what he wants to do

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Speaker 3: with this roster as it's currently constructed. That's ahead here

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Speaker 3: on the Arizona Cardinals right to network.

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Speaker 4: We got a good group of guys that's just like

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Speaker 4: great dudes that want to play football. So it's easy

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Speaker 4: to mingle with the group. Is easy to interject young

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Speaker 4: office and linemen into the room and it'd be fun.

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Speaker 11: Oh man, me and Parris are already clicking. Man, such

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Speaker 11: a cool guy, very smart. We even have our own

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Speaker 11: handshake going on. Already there you go and already. Well,

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Speaker 11: I'll give you guys a clue. It's we wouldn't call

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Speaker 11: it a handshake. We would call it more of a

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Speaker 11: belly shake.

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Speaker 3: Something to pay attention to here in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: exactly what will Hernandez and Paris Johnson Junior. We presume

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Speaker 3: on the right side of the offensive line, what they're

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Speaker 3: doing maybe after a good double team block, I don't know, Kyle,

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Speaker 3: did you have any you have any handshakes, specific handshakes,

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Speaker 3: not belly shakes, any specific handshakes with the teammates after

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Speaker 3: a major tackle for loss or a sack.

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Speaker 5: No, I wasn't really, I wasn't cool enough have any celebrations.

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Speaker 5: I also did not some of these guys, like you

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Speaker 5: watched basketball players before games. I don't know how much

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Speaker 5: time they spend, but every player's got their own handshake

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Speaker 5: with another player. It must take there must spend so

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00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 5: much time at practice working on that.

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Speaker 3: We heard DJ Humphries and then Will Hernandez on Wolf

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Speaker 3: and Luke ninety eight seven FM, Arizona Sports Station, as

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Speaker 3: we talk about the offense and more specifically the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Here is the second half of the Cardinals Red Sea

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Speaker 3: to great Seats. And I think at this point of

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Speaker 3: the offseason, Darren, we know maybe outside of left guard

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Speaker 3: on what this offensive line is going to look like.

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Speaker 3: Let at the same time, you go back a year ago,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna need depth, You're gonna need numbers. The Cardinals

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Speaker 3: had ten different offensive line combinations. I believe the only

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Speaker 3: time they put up the same five was four weeks

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Speaker 3: in a row at minimum, and that's something that if

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Speaker 3: you want a successful offense, you need those five guys

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Speaker 3: to remain on the field more times than not, like

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs and Eagles did and they both made the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl last year.

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Speaker 6: Well I brought this up a billion times on different platforms,

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Speaker 6: but the year the Cardinals made the Super Bowl, their

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Speaker 6: five offensive linemens started every game, all sixteen regular season

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Speaker 6: and all four postseasons. So it really makes a difference

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Speaker 6: when that can happen. You know, I'm I would say

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Speaker 6: that pretty much every position. I'm fascinating to see how

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Speaker 6: this coaching staff sorts out because we don't know exactly

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Speaker 6: what they're going to think about these guys once we

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Speaker 6: actually get in a camp. But the offensive line is

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Speaker 6: another one of those places where it's like we think

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Speaker 6: we know, like you just said, well, we think we're

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Speaker 6: said other than left guard, I mean it seems that way.

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Speaker 6: It seems like Paris Johnson is going to fit in

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Speaker 6: at right tackle because that's where he spent the entire offseason,

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Speaker 6: but we don't know that for sure. You know, Will

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Speaker 6: Hernandez at right guard is yell to Frohol at your center.

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Speaker 6: I mean he is right now, but does could that

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Speaker 6: change still? And then of course DJ Humphrey's at left tackle.

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Speaker 6: I still think there are some things to sort out.

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Speaker 6: There are some possibilities that could still happen with some

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Speaker 6: of these open roster spots, and then they're gonna have

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Speaker 6: to figure out how to pare it down. Because they

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Speaker 6: have brought in a lot of offensive linemen with at

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Speaker 6: least some kind of experience, They're obviously not going to

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Speaker 6: be able to keep them all. So who makes sense

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Speaker 6: on this roster in terms of flexibility and being able

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Speaker 6: to play a role?

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Speaker 3: Fifteen offensive lineman currently on the roster. The big one

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Speaker 3: that everyone wants to see, and that is your sixth

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Speaker 3: overall draft pick, Paris Johnson Junior, who, again we anticipate

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Speaker 3: playing right tackle, but he has experience on the left

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Speaker 3: side of the line of scrimmage and even playing guard,

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Speaker 3: which you did at Ohio State. But you draft someone

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Speaker 3: that high, you expect to see him on the football field.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll be on the football field. I mean it

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Speaker 5: just his talent and ability. I mean it's impossible to

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Speaker 5: keep him off the field, and with his athleticism, it

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Speaker 5: lends more to offensive tackle. I mean, you could take

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Speaker 5: a guy who doesn't move quite as well, who doesn't

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Speaker 5: play as well in space, and you can kind of

652
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Speaker 5: cover him up at guard because he's got a little

653
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 5: healthy from the center of the tackle. So you know,

654
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 5: he's your prototype offensive tackle. So I would think they

655
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 5: find a way to get him at right tackle. But

656
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Speaker 5: you know, the thing that I like hearing with this group,

657
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 5: we don't know the who right now, but it's the what,

658
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 5: and you hear about their camaraderie and how well they

659
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 5: get along with each other, and the mentorship from the

660
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 5: veterans to the young players and the guys that have

661
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 5: already formed this bond with the rookies and specifically Paris Johnson,

662
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: because regardless of who the final five are, they need

663
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 5: to gel I mean an offensive line. Sometimes you can

664
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: win games and be a really good team and even

665
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 5: have a good offensive line with a bunch of nobody's

666
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 5: but they've got to work well together. And to your point,

667
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 5: that never happened last year. We never had the same

668
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 5: group together and it was just plugging in pieces and

669
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 5: it didn't seem like they ever worked extremely well as

670
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: a unit. But it seems like that's where we're at

671
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 5: right now, starting from day one at training camp. You know,

672
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 5: they haven't had a ton of experiences working together, but

673
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 5: they get along with each other and and you know,

674
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 5: offensive line, there is no tighter knit group in an

675
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 5: NFL locker room than the offensive line, and it seems

676
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 5: like that's the way this offensive line group is.

677
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Speaker 3: Almost a decade ago, DJ Humphries was in the exact

678
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: same position as Paris Johnson Junior, now a little bit different.

679
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: Humphreys was not a top ten draft pick, but coming

680
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: in as a rookie, and we know DJ did not

681
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: play his rookie year. But now the veteran in that room,

682
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: DJ on what advice he would give to the youngster

683
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: Paris Johnson Junior.

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Speaker 4: You're a first round draft pick, bo, I'm gonna tell

685
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 4: you something about being a first rounder. If you jump

686
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: out hot and you ball, you put yourself in a

687
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: position to have a career that is laid out for you.

688
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: This is what I want to see for that, I said.

689
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 4: But you don't know how hard it was for me

690
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: to work to get that bust off my name, and

691
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: you gotta really work hard to get that off of you.

692
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 4: I said, I'm telling you, if you can just do that,

693
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: focus on having your consistency as young player, that's all

694
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: you're gonna need is gonna carry you so far as

695
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 4: all the other tools you have. You just need to

696
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: be make sure you're being consistent in every face.

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Speaker 3: And credit Humphreys as well. Is that conversation was part

698
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: of Wolf and Luke. But Humphries has been very public

699
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Speaker 3: about how supportive he is of the young player who

700
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: may one day be the starting left tackle of the

701
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals. But the veteran helping out the youngster don't

702
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: always see it, but you are seeing it in that

703
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: Cardinals locker room, in the line room. Now, bigger picture though,

704
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: this offense overall, regardless of who the quarterback is. You

705
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: have a first year offensive coordinator. Andrew Petsing comes over

706
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: from the Cleveland Browns, where he was the quarterbacks coach

707
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: and tight ends coach over his three seasons with Cleveland.

708
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: The Browns like to run a lot of too tight

709
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: or two running backs with the tight end. Is that

710
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: what we're gonna see here, regardless if it's Kyler Murray

711
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 3: or Colt McCoy or whomever it is at quarterback it's.

712
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 6: A fantastic question. And just like we're talking about with

713
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 6: the defense, it's hard to really know exactly what's going

714
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 6: to happen. We've obviously gotten considerable amount of hints that

715
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 6: they will run the ball, probably more often then this

716
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 6: team had previous. That said, and we've had discussions about

717
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 6: this ourselves. It's easy to say you're going to run

718
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 6: the ball a lot more, and then when you get

719
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 6: in the heat of the game, or you get behind,

720
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 6: or the running game isn't quite working, or your defense

721
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 6: isn't holding up enough to allow you to run a lot,

722
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Speaker 6: I mean, things can change. So I'll be curious to

723
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 6: see exactly how this plays out. And I'll be curious

724
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 6: to see how it plays out with and without Kyler

725
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 6: on the field. Is James Connor still a guy who

726
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 6: you're going to ride heavy or is one of these

727
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 6: other running backs who quite frankly, we don't know exactly

728
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 6: who would be the backup or the number two guy

729
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 6: or the other guy getting touches. What that person is

730
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 6: going to bring to the table.

731
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you aren't run two running backs, who's that

732
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: second running back next to James Connor? Head coach Jonathan

733
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: Gannon on what he likes from a Drew Petsing offense.

734
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 7: Stresses out the defense he can adapt to who he's

735
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 7: playing will look different each and every week by who

736
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 7: we have playing, who they have playing, and he's gonna

737
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 7: I think he does a really good job of Taylor

738
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 7: fitting the offense to who's out there for us, all

739
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 7: eleven positions, not just the quarterback position.

740
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 3: Again, there, Kyle, we hear the adapt to what we

741
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: need to do to be successful. Now certain point, you're

742
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: just gonna run what is successful that you do well,

743
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: even if that is something that goes against what that

744
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 3: week's opponent can do better. But that's just what you

745
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: do successful and you're gonna do it and hopefully at

746
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: some point you'll be successful on that particular Sunday. But

747
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: goes back to training camp. How many tight ends, how

748
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: many wide receivers on the field, It's going to look

749
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: a lot different than what we've seen in the past

750
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 3: four years.

751
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, And to Darren's point, I mean, you're right. As

752
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 5: an offense, you've got to have a base, You've got

753
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 5: to have something that you're gonna go out there and

754
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 5: say this is what we do. Stop it, right, So

755
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 5: you've got some base and then you build off of that,

756
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 5: and you obviously make changes before the each week and

757
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 5: an even end game. But just reading hearing hints and

758
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 5: reading the tea leaves, you can expect more twelve personnel.

759
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be more more zone blocking, quarterback

760
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 5: under center, more bootlegs, more waggles and more motions, more

761
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 5: pre snap shifts, things like that. You know, in my mind,

762
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 5: what I vision Kyler Murray in offense that he could

763
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 5: be really successful in is you think the Saints.

764
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 8: With Drew Brees.

765
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 5: Look, you've got a short quarterback, shorter quarterback with a

766
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 5: really strong arm. You find those passing lanes, you get

767
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 5: him on the move, you move the pocket. You know,

768
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 5: I hated playing the Saints because you could have the

769
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 5: best pass rusher in the world and you get back

770
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 5: there and he's not there because the pocket is always moving.

771
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 5: And that's what you know. It's not just Kyler's legs.

772
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 5: Aren't just the luxury in the run game. They're not

773
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 5: just the luxury when the play breaks down. He can

774
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 5: get to that edge on a bootleg quickly and he

775
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 5: can throw it, you know, from different platforms and different

776
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 5: angles with his baseball background. So I envision kind of

777
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 5: that Saints under Drew Brees type offense and that being

778
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 5: the base that the Arizona Cardinals will run.

779
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: And Kyler wants to throw the football. He does not

780
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 3: want to use his legs to move the yard stick

781
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: and move the football up and down the field. He

782
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: wants to get the ball in the hands of his playmakers,

783
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: whether that's handing the ball off or throwing it to

784
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: the wide receiver that tie it. Ind we know that

785
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: the legs, as he so famously put it, are a

786
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: luxury when plays break down or you need that extra

787
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: yard or two. But Kyler Murray from the pocket or

788
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: whichever side of the field that pocket may be. To

789
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 3: your point, Kyle, as far as you're moving the pocket

790
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: to avoid that pass rush, but staying within the frameworker

791
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: of the offense to let Kyler Murray and whomever it

792
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: might be at quarterback do what they do best. Hey,

793
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: you want to hear more of Jonathan Gann in his

794
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: conversation with Dave Patch the episode fifty eight of The

795
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: Day Patch podcast, available right now via your preferred podcast provider.

796
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 3: This is the Arizona Cardinals radio network.

797
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 7: Run to day.

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00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I knew you said fourteen points on the fifteen points.

799
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 9: On them fifteen mphs. Yeah, yeah, but I mean it's

800
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 9: getting better getting it out, It's getting better.

801
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray and his father have a little catch in

802
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 3: the backyard, catch with the football and Kyler not full

803
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: pads but wearing the shells. Part of the episode five

804
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: of the latest episode the latest edition of Cardinals Flight Plan,

805
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: which details Kyler Murray's rehab and also just opening things

806
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 3: up a different side of Kyler Murray the person away

807
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: from the football field again. It's available on the Cardinals

808
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: YouTube page. Go to YouTube dot com slash Azy Cardinals

809
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: but playing catch and you heard him reference running almost

810
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: fifteen miles an hour. Kyle, You've dealt with ACL injuries

811
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 3: and the rehab and the return from that. Every play

812
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: is difference whether you had a meniscus tear or other

813
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 3: issues within that knee, not just an ACL. But yeah,

814
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray wants to come back week one. Will he

815
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: come back week one? Highly unlikely, But he is getting

816
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: to that point where getting on the field practicing becomes

817
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: a little bit more realistic.

818
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 8: Yeah.

819
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 5: I just love to hear him say that that's his goal,

820
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 5: because that's the way it should be. If if his

821
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 5: goal is to be back by week eight, then you

822
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 5: know it's a little concerning his goal is to be

823
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 5: ready for week one. I don't know that it's feasible. Again,

824
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 5: we've talked about this before. Note two A cl injuries

825
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 5: are the same. He did have some meniscus damage, so

826
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 5: that that compounds things a little bit. But you know,

827
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 5: he's working extremely hard. You can see how hard he's working,

828
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 5: and but there's just so many factors, you know that,

829
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 5: so many hurdles that he still has to cross. You know,

830
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: he's he's been doing some straight ahead stuff. You know,

831
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 5: you got to work in the agility and then it's

832
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 5: a whole nother matter. Like for me, you know, it

833
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 5: took me a while because I'm wrestling with three hundred

834
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 5: ten pounders. I had an injury about the same time

835
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 5: as Dwayne Starks, and he was back like two months

836
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 5: before I was because I'm out there wrestling three hundred

837
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 5: and ten pounders. Kyler Murray's got the issue of he's got

838
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 5: three hundred pounders chasing him every play and diving at

839
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 5: his legs. I mean, they don't care that he may

840
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 5: be a little bit slowed and when he first comes back,

841
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 5: they don't care that he just had, you know, a

842
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 5: grueling recovery process. All they want to do is hit him,

843
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 5: get him on the ground, and he's got that to

844
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 5: deal with. And that's a big mental hurdle when you

845
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 5: know that on any given play, there's eleven players that

846
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 5: are gonna take shots at your legs when they get

847
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 5: an opportunity.

848
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: There is a lot on Kyler's plate right now. Not

849
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: only is it the rehab, but he's learning a brand

850
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: new offense. It's new for everyone, so that helps. And

851
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 3: he's also getting familiar with a brand new front office

852
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: and a brand new coaching staff, specifically a head coach

853
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 3: and Jonathan Gennett. Here's Kyler on the recent episode of

854
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 3: Cardinals Flight Plan.

855
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 8: It's been seamless, you know, I mean jg hit it off.

856
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 9: You know, he sees things the way see things, or

857
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 9: he can relate to the guys and he, you know,

858
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 9: genuinely feels like he believes in the guys and trying

859
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 9: to get the guys better, me better. I feel like,

860
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 9: you know, you run through a wall for that type

861
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 9: of guy. And that's the type of energy that he brings.

862
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: And you like to hear that, Darren, because no matter

863
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 3: what head coach, quarterback, they are always tied together.

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00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 6: Yes, And let's face it, and I think we saw

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Speaker 6: a little bit of the relationship between Kyler and and

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Speaker 6: Cliff Kingsbury frayed a little bit at the end, and

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Speaker 6: that that is and important that the two guys have

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Speaker 6: to be on the same page and going referencing what

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Speaker 6: Kyler said earlier about feeling free. You know, they're in

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Speaker 6: the honeymoon period right now. Obviously we'll see where this goes,

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Speaker 6: but it's it's a good start and I think Kyler

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Speaker 6: was looking forward to a fresh start, and I think

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Speaker 6: that's what he's got right now.

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Speaker 3: And it's not just the relationships with the coaches, but

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Speaker 3: the players. Kyler has been around more than he has

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Speaker 3: in any of his previous offseasons, So you're getting more

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Speaker 3: learning more about each other as far as teammates, something

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Speaker 3: that Larry Fitzgerald, on a recent interview with Cam Cox

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Speaker 3: over at twelve News discussed.

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Speaker 12: He's gonna be chomping that the bit to go out

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Speaker 12: there and pick up where he left off, you know,

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Speaker 12: as a Pro Bowl performer. And you know, I'm excited

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Speaker 12: for him, you know, I've heard he's really you know,

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Speaker 12: developing and building relationships with people in the building and

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Speaker 12: the natural maturation process is taking place. And that's that's

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Speaker 12: both well for not only him, but it both will

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Speaker 12: for Cardinals players, organization and fans that.

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Speaker 8: Pull for him.

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Speaker 3: We heard something similar with DJ Humphreys rehabbing his own

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Speaker 3: injury and being in the building and Kyler Murray being

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Speaker 3: in the building at the same time and DJ saying, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's he's a funny guy. He's a lot funnier than

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Speaker 3: I knew. But because they're together and you get to

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Speaker 3: know each other off the football field, and I think

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Speaker 3: that's been one of the biggest growth spurts, if you will,

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Speaker 3: for Kyler this offseason, is getting to know those guys

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Speaker 3: on the same side of the ball and this the

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Speaker 3: entire team.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what I mentioned earlier. Like to me,

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Speaker 5: this is a relationship business. And if you particularly with

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Speaker 5: your offensive lineman, like they need to know that you

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Speaker 5: care about them, and they in turn will do everything

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Speaker 5: they can to protect you. They will, they will fight

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Speaker 5: for you, they will pull people off of you, they

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Speaker 5: will do what they can for you. And you know,

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Speaker 5: the thing that I think I'm seeing that the coaching

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Speaker 5: staff is saying that Kyler's teammates are seeing. Nothing reveals

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Speaker 5: your character more than when you face adversity. And he's

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Speaker 5: faced so much adversity in the last year, and he

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Speaker 5: is standing up in the face of it, and he's

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Speaker 5: taking responsibility, and he's doing everything he can to change

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Speaker 5: the narrative surrounding him and this football team.

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Speaker 3: As Kyler said in Cardinals' Flight Plan, I've been hurt before,

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Speaker 3: but not like this brand new experience for him. How

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Speaker 3: does he come out on the other side? Hey, special

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Speaker 3: Thanks to those behind the scenes on this edition The

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Speaker 3: Cardinals Redsier Report. Our executive producer Jim almanra associate producer

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Speaker 3: Coddy Fincher. Welcome to the team, Cody, Technical director Lauren

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Speaker 3: Covil for Kyle Van Debosch, Darren Urban, I'm Craig Realley.

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Speaker 3: rookies and veterans reports for training camp. That is a

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Speaker 3: week from today. It is the Cardinals Red Sea Report

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