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That's Jay 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: ampersan Jy so they know that Jenkins and Jones sent you. 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkins and Jones on the Volume podcast network. 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, February ninth, and as always, I was about 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 2: to say, as always, Dragonfly Jones is hosted by. 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: Jenkins and Jones. 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 4: That's not true. 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: As always, Jenkins somewhere, not on this, not on this here, 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: wrong multiverse. 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: As always, Jenkinson Jones is hosted by my good friends 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: Dragonfly Jones aka. 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: Tyler Everybody, I'm a good. 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: Put a little round the thousand, that. 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: Trade Deadline special, the Jethro Jenkins aka John was Aunt 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: Bubba's I'm Mikhail Guardia Guardy. It is Mikayl week in 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: the NBA. We've got a lot a great basketball news 32 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: to talk about, but up top, we have a burning 33 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: question that has been just keeping all of our brains 34 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: aflame for the last twenty four hours, and that question 35 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: is what the fuck is Kanye wearing. 36 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: It's so wild because there was a time where Kanye 37 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: was the freshest rapper in the game, bro right, Like 38 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: there was a time where I used to try to 39 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: dress like that motherfucker, you know what I'm saying, Like 40 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: I had fucking hot pink polos and shit, you know, saying, 41 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: trying to be Kanye like four. And now this motherfucker 42 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: is dressing like a fucking elasting ice fishermen or some shit. 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Them big ass boots. That 44 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 4: boy gone. 45 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say about it, man, 46 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, no one really. I 47 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: feel like very few people stay fresh forever, especially rappers, 48 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. We saw the Fat 49 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: Joe shit last week. Like rappers fall off that fucking 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: cliff hard as fuck. 51 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 4: Bro. 52 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: It's like rustles in their athleticism. Bro, when it goes, 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: it goes in big chunks. The sharks aren't taking nipples 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 2: off that dead whale. 55 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: They're taking big chunks. 56 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 4: Christ, what's wilders? 57 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 5: He has motherfuckers wearing them ships dog like people are 58 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 5: wearing those imitating him, like it's still cool, bro, You 59 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 5: come on now, it's even I'm saying that as a 60 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 5: dude that wore the double pop collar, they had the 61 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 5: over and under polo. 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 63 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: I know your motherfucking nipples as motherfucker. 64 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: What was wild was all of this. 65 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 5: They were popped, so it was a lot of friction 66 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 5: around the neck dog like with the collars and ship bro, 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 5: dog kids don't follow. 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: This, man, you know what I mean? Those boots are horrible, 69 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: nothing cool a bottlem alright, p save that he. 70 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 5: Fashion sense fashion said yeah, bro, but yeah, don't come on, man, 71 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 5: it's not it. 72 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: Those boots are not it. People like you know, Josh 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: Christopher wearing them right, Who's who's a fashionable dude? You 74 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: know what I mean? 75 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: Wearing it? 76 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 4: Come on, man, let them go, man, I let them 77 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: do that alone. 78 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: Something we've talked about a couple of times on the 79 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: pod that I always ask like when we have athletes 80 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 2: or whoever are musicians on I like to ask about 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: is like all pro athletes I know want to be 82 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: musicians or fashion designers and vice versa. 83 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: Like all musicians think that they're like. 84 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: Pro athletes, you know they It's just if they worked 85 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: that hard at basketball, they'd be pro athletes. And this 86 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: is just a reminder that being really good at one 87 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: of those things is enough. 88 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: You know, that's enough. 89 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: Like congratulations, you don't have to be Bo Jackson of 90 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: music and fashion like you did it. 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: You did one thing that's amazing To that point, John, you. 92 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: Just set a picture of these new Soldier boys shows shoes. 93 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 5: What's while is mass is trying to create supras in 94 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, you know what I mean? 95 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: For two hundred and seventy nine dollars. If he sells 96 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: one pair of shoes, it's to win one. 97 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 5: Who is buying these soldier shoes? No, he got the 98 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 5: same affliction that he has with his soldier Let it gojie, 99 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 5: let it goody buying soldier shoes in twenty twenty two. 100 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: That's crazy as hell. Man number jeweled ass, be dazzled 101 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: ass shoes Man Bros. Bros. 102 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: Like thirty two years old, still calling himself soldier boy. 103 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: But I guess that's better than soldier man. That doesn't 104 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 1: quite flow. No, I would love soldier man. I would 105 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: love soldier. 106 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 3: Much soldier man. 107 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: Soldier man immature became iMX. You know what I mean, 108 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: Hey man, soldier man running soldier man. 109 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 110 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 4: Y'all give you some soldier boys, though. 111 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: Some soldier shoes, some soldier stars. 112 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: Someone did hit me up and tell me that soldier 113 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: bread was good, and I was just like, I'm gonna 114 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: take your I'm gonna have to take your. 115 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: Word for it. 116 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: Bro good for good for solids of bread, good for all. 117 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: Right, boy, we're recording right here at the ass crack 118 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: of the trade deadline, and obviously, I mean they could, 119 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: but there may be that there's another huge trade about 120 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: to break. But at the moment we're going to talk 121 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: about what we have to talk about, and up top 122 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: we just have to talk about the Blazers moving. Basically, 123 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: everyone other than Dame, CJ. McCollum, Larry and Angel Jr. 124 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: And Tony Snell are going to the Pelicans, Uh, Norman 125 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: Power and Roco going to the Clippers. Dame, it's time, 126 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: The time is here, Tyler, can you please deliver it. 127 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 2: Everyone was really happy with Tyler's motivational advice last week 128 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: on recruiting. Can you give Dame some advice to get 129 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: him in a better life situation? 130 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: I help him? Dragonfly Joan, Well, we know this. 131 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 1: This is a very much you know, fuck that ship. 132 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: Get out of bad situations. 133 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: Pod. You know what I'm saying. 134 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any virtue in suffering just for 135 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: the sake of suffering, you know what I'm saying. 136 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: Just like I said, like. 137 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: Bro, just because you don't want to prove people wrong 138 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: because you said you were gonna tough it out. Bro, 139 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: fuck us. We ain't shit, you know what I'm saying. 140 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: We ain't ship. We lie all the time too. Of 141 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: course we're gonna We're gonna crack some jokes on you 142 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: if you leave, but we will understand. Bro, it is 143 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: time to run from the grind. You got Joel eb 144 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: out here something that man told him time to run, 145 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: Time to run. 146 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: That ship was ominous as fun. 147 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: But he needed to see that though, Bro, because because 148 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: you were in an ominous ass situation right now. 149 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 4: Dog, she is real bleak out in Portland right now. 150 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, And and and the 151 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: Portland Front Office said, this is the whole goal. You know, 152 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: they're they're trying to you know, build you know, cap 153 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: space and picks around Dame. And it's like, bro, those 154 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: picks unless you're packaging them in trades like you what 155 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: the Dame's like? What thirty one thirty two? You can't 156 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: bring your twenty year old on board and hope to 157 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: develop it. You know what I'm saying. That window is shrinking. Yeah, 158 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: so dog, you know what I'm saying. We've always been 159 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: pro run from the grind, pro get the fuck out 160 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: when shit gets too tough, and Dame, it's time. 161 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: Dog. 162 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: They have like sixty mil, that said, didn't they Then 163 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 5: they say they had like sixty mil to like. 164 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: Get somebody big or whatever. 165 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 5: But have you looked at who's available in free agency 166 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: this year? Like everybody available really isn't actually available. 167 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: You know they're gonna stay where they at. 168 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 5: You feel what I'm saying, Like, and you're gonna trust 169 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 5: these guys to build a championship team around you. 170 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 4: They had you for fucking ten years and they ain't 171 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: did shit. This is a toxic relationship, all right. You've 172 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: been gasolt, dame. You know what I mean. You've been 173 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 4: gasoling my boy. I want better for you. You deserve better, Dame. 174 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 175 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 5: It's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen there, and 176 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 5: we gonna clown you either way. If you stay here, go, 177 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 5: might as well be happy. You feel what I'm saying. 178 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 5: Fuck us, Like Tyler said, we ain't shit. It's a fact, dog, you. 179 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 180 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 5: But do I just don't see how you want to 181 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 5: stay there trust a team that hasn't done what they 182 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 5: said they're gonna do to do that Now that you're 183 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 5: thirty one, come on, bro. 184 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: You button neck it there right now. You know what 185 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: I mean. 186 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: Anytime you look around at your professional circumstance and it 187 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: resembles a Deckenziean novel. 188 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 3: It is acceptable for you to leave. 189 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: You do not need to be Dame Copperfield on behalf 190 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: of the Portland Trailblazers. Like we were joking in the 191 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: in the group chat yesterday, John said his old testament, 192 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: he's they are smiting this. 193 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 4: Man, he is, they are smiting the fuck. I'm like, 194 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: what have you done, Dame to deserve this? You know 195 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: what I mean? Nothing? Dog? 196 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: He said, he's not gonna run from the grind. 197 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: And the fucking Portland Front Office made a bet with 198 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: the devil and said, let's see if he'll remain steadfast 199 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 2: and faithful if we put this man through absolute fucking. 200 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 4: The book the Book of Day. 201 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: Someone on Twitter we were having a conversation and they 202 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: brought up a real interesting point. They posed a question 203 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: to me, like who is the most respected NBA player 204 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: of all time who stayed with one team his whole 205 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: career and never won a ring? 206 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: And I put some. 207 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: Long, deep thought into that, and I was like, bro, 208 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: I think it's Nick Collison, Like you know what I'm saying, 209 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: that might be the answer here, you know what I'm saying, 210 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: Like like, we don't see this happen. 211 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: We don't see you know, all time NBA greats just 212 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: tough it that. 213 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: With chunks off is vomiting off my Like, if y'all 214 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: have a better answer, I'm all for it. You know, 215 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: we can open this up to to the reviews, to 216 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: the listeners. But I don't have anyone besides Nick Collinson 217 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to that end, because you know, like 218 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: greats get out of bad situations, they go ring chasing 219 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call it. They can put 220 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: themselves in better positions to win. And it's time for 221 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Dame to do the same. 222 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: Bro, did Dominique play anywhere else? Celtics? Celtics? And I think, 223 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: like I have a season with the Clippers. I want 224 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: to say. 225 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 5: Too, I think Damn Dominique was overdoing they was flipping 226 00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 5: them like that at towards end of his career. 227 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was palling with the Selics. He was 228 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: putting up like twenty five a game. 229 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: I do not remember him in Southern Jersey once. All right, 230 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 4: well yeah it might be don't be good. Don't don't 231 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: be Nick. 232 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna think on that. I think I 233 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: might have someone better than Nick Collison. But anyway, don't. 234 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: The thing is you should. 235 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 5: It's hard to say that that's the best player that 236 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 5: you know, that's respected, that stayed and you know it 237 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 5: has won a chip. It's hard to say, Nick Collison, 238 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 5: you feel me, but it might be true. 239 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: Don't spend your life work grinding to be in the 240 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: same conversation as Nick Collinson though about that? Is that 241 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: a that's a fair life principle that we could apply 242 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: to pretty much everybody for sure. 243 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm wondering, how long do you think Dame has 244 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 5: a game that he can play? He can I think 245 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 5: he can play this his game for the next few years, right. 246 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 5: I don't think he has an old man game in 247 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 5: the way that Steph does, where Steph will be Steph 248 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 5: probably for until he's not Steph anymore, you know what 249 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: I mean, until he leaves the game where he takes 250 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 5: or contact more hits and stuff like that. 251 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 4: He's more physical. 252 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 5: But at this age, you know what I'm saying, building 253 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 5: around this guy, I mean, how much more are we 254 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 5: going to see? 255 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 4: How long is that window? For real? You know what 256 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 4: I mean? 257 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: Not that much longer. I haven't answered. That's better, I 258 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: would say, Reggie Miller over college. Yeah. 259 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: How yeah that's Reggie for sure. 260 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,479 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but still same principle. 261 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, like. 262 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 5: Reggie, Reggie get a lot of respect though he only 263 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 5: ate little NBA. 264 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, low key overrated talks and 265 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: ship Wow. 266 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: There are I would say that is I would say 267 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 2: that I'm aware of NBA players who feel that way 268 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: about Reggie Miller as well. So I feel I don't 269 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: know that that's even sneakily because he's so highly rated. 270 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: I don't even know that that's a hot take just because. 271 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 5: His and his during his time, like players that played 272 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 5: with him you're saying said that, or players that are playing. 273 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: Now now because it's because he talked like Steph SR 274 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And record wise, everything's been 275 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: blown out like midway through these dudes. 276 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: Careers, Broggie, Reggie, Reggie benefits from having huge playoff moments, 277 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: but he was like a correcting point per game guy 278 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: his whole. 279 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: Career, you know what I mean. 280 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: Son, It's just it's one of those like transitionary NBA times. 281 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: It's gonna be difficult in five years to evaluate his 282 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: actual resume against what a whole generation of score first dudes, 283 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: you know, look like in the three point era. 284 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: But anyway, let's talk about. 285 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: This. May not be the first time we've talked about 286 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: the Kings on Jenkinson Jones, but it's not the tenth time. 287 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 5: I think three years ago, when they're the funniest team 288 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 5: in the league, we said that and that was it. 289 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: Over. 290 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: Now they've got a bunch of pacers on that roster. 291 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: The party's over all. 292 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: Right, Let's talk about the Kings trade. 293 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: Yesterday they moved Tyree's Hallib, they moved should have been 294 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: a Laker buddy, and they moved Tristan Thompson for Sabonis, 295 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: Jeremy Lamb and Justin Holliday. Woes made my day by 296 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: initially tweeting out Jeremy Lamb and Jeremy Lamb, which it 297 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: was my favorite typo that I've seen quite a while, 298 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: because the idea of them going, you know what, no, 299 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: we need to Jeremy Lamb. 300 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: That would make it even Jeremy Lamb take yes for 301 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: an answer. 302 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: We only need the two Jeremy Lambs. 303 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: You got to go to three. 304 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: You know, people were roasting the Kings for this. 305 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: I have a couple of friends who are Kings fans, 306 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: and I hit them up, and I don't mind that 307 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: trade because I think this is a team that basically, 308 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: I feel like their fans are upset that they picked 309 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: Deer and Fox over Halliburton, and I understand that, but 310 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: I would say, having actually had to watch the Kings 311 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: a couple of times this year because of said friends, 312 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: this was a team with nineteen starting guards on their 313 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: fucking roster. They had to convert some backcourt to front 314 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: court or they're not They just don't make sense as 315 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: an NBA team. 316 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: And they got a good player. 317 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 5: So to me, he's the most efficient, balanced, you know 318 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like and youngest player. 319 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: You feel me like, of those three, you know what 320 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 4: I mean? 321 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 5: I think all boys younger, but anyway, was it off 322 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 5: Night is a little younger. But I'm just saying like 323 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 5: he's probably the most balanced of those three, and he 324 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: has a huge upside. And they trade him and the 325 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 5: guy that wanted to be in Sacramento, like dog who 326 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 5: wants to be in Sacramento? 327 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: Okay, you know what I mean? 328 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 5: And they trade him for an All Star caliber player. 329 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: That they can't necessarily use with the players they have. 330 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: That's what's weird. The Pacers got what they needed and 331 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: the Kings got what, you. 332 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: Know, than they usually get. 333 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 5: I mean, but that ain't enough to trade a Tyre's Halliburton, 334 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 5: where you get a. 335 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: Player that you'll still be in the same spot in 336 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: the end of the day. 337 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: They're always going to be in this Sames pot because 338 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: they're the Sacramento Kings, is. 339 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 5: My at least, but you we can say that, they 340 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 5: can't say that. 341 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: It's you know what I'm saying, just like just like 342 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 4: we could talk our ship, you know what I'm saying. 343 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 4: Sports hitter can't say that about about Westbrook, you know 344 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 4: what I mean? 345 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: Come on, So, so they traded their player with their 346 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: with the most upside, and I feel like they brought 347 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: in their player who's gonna shit on, you know, the 348 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: player who they've been doing the wrongest for the last 349 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: few years, and and Marvin Badley. I don't see how 350 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: bad the getting exist, right, Yeah, it's I don't know, 351 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: it's it feels weird because it feels like it was 352 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: a blow it up trade, But it still feels like 353 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: the fucking Kings got the best player in it, which 354 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: is something that only the fucking Kings can do. You 355 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I feel like Caliburn has the 356 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: most upside, but right now on yeah, totally, yeah, February nineteen, 357 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: that's when the two Sabonis is a better player for sure. 358 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: But it's just I don't know, None of us know 359 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: what the fuck the Kings are doing, so trying to 360 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: fucking you know, decipher it as a fool's error. 361 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: And that's where I'm at with it. 362 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 5: They don't know what they're doing obviously, you know what 363 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 5: I mean. And also we talk about Buddy Hill being 364 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 5: at Lakers. Buddy, I think she was like thirty eight percent. 365 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 5: Buddy Hill ain't Buddy Hill, you know what I mean. 366 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 5: We need shooting, but like he ain't, you know, and he. 367 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: Shoots thirty eight somewhere else. That means he would have 368 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: come to l A and shot twenty eight percent. 369 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 4: So you feel what I mean? I mean, well, I 370 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 4: mean maybe he just wanted to get out of it. 371 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 5: He's had his ups and downs with the Kings, you 372 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like everybody else has. 373 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 4: Come on, let's talk about. 374 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: The Cleveland Cavaliers, long awaited for a segment caps Small 375 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: Market Podcast. 376 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: We love a small market here Cleveland is small. 377 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 3: You know, Cleveland has less people in it than Long Beach. 378 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 4: Damn it's Cleveland. 379 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 5: My gee, you run into Cleveland, I'd run the Long Beach. 380 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 381 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: That's the the yoki. The joke of Noah shit is 382 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: the fun. That's so funny to me. That's one of 383 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: my favorite clips that pops up every now and then. 384 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: What say, Well, well, he was talking about how no 385 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: one wants to go to Cleveland and so then when 386 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: they lost to the Calves in the playoffs, the reporters 387 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: were like trying to get him to give the like 388 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: non apology apology. They're like, you know, do you regret 389 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: saying anything? And he was just like no, do you 390 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: do you like it? 391 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: Here? 392 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: Are you going on vacation? Yeah? Right, He's like, I've 393 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: never heard of anyone going to Cleveland on vacation. 394 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: That you used to give. 395 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 5: There was a joke where like first prize is one 396 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 5: week in Cleveland, second prize. 397 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: Is two weeks and Cleveland jokes are hilarious for some reason. 398 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: All Right, My first my first sense that the fun 399 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: was over on Twitter was I made a joke about 400 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: you can't make fun of Cleveland because they don't have 401 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: the Internet. There and so they don't they don't even 402 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: get to see it anyway, so it's not fun. And 403 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: someone replied to me and was like, actually, the lack 404 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: of infrastructure in you know, aging midwestern towns is nothing 405 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: to laugh at. 406 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 3: I was like. 407 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 4: Him, remute that person of the US go back to 408 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: two seventeen and block that nigga. 409 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 5: Bro, Like you just let's go back to block and 410 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 5: he should be blocked. 411 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 4: Bro, that's come on, absolutely. 412 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: Sorry, you don't have FiOS, you know what I mean? 413 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: You want me to fucking I mean. 414 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 4: Also, it's a joke, you know what I mean, Like, 415 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 4: it's not a it's not Well. 416 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: One thing that's not a joke is the championship aspirations 417 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty two Cleveland Cavaliers. 418 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 4: Now that's a joke too. But they're good. 419 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: They've acquired LeVert, they moved for Rubio and some picks. 420 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: I do really like this trade. And the calves are good. So, gentlemen, 421 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: here's your space to say nice things about the Cleveland cavaliens. 422 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: I think that after we prefaced it by talking about 423 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: Cleveland for five minutes, we're. 424 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 4: Not talking about about the calves. 425 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: The calves have pulled the biggest one eighty of any 426 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: team in the league this season. 427 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 4: You know, I'm saying, I. 428 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: Think they won like twenty two games last season. They've 429 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: already had like thirty three right now or something like that. 430 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: They're in that you know, five team logjam for first 431 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: place where everyone's separated by like a game and a half. 432 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: Right now, that's starting line up they got right now 433 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: with with with Garland and Carris. 434 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 4: And Lori and fucking Alan. That's mean, bro. 435 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: And the wild thing about this is if Harden gets 436 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: shipped out the Calves won the Harden trade, How the 437 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: fuck does the third team win a trade with a 438 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: superstar in the mix? Bro, That's gonna be wild as 439 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: fuck if they ship Harden out, which is something to 440 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: think about. 441 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, I like the Calves. I think 442 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: you know JB. Bickerstaff. 443 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: You know he's gonna be in talk to coach of Yeah, 444 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: I think money probably wins because money got them boys clicking. 445 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: But yeah, the cast then turns shit around. Man. Yeah, 446 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 4: Kris is a good player. He's a good player. You know, 447 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 4: they were already good team. I think the fourth in 448 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 4: the East. You know what I'm saying, Halliburton, the Halliburton. 449 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: Uh. 450 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 5: Garland is already you know, he's an All Star. Alan 451 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 5: probably should have been an All Star. Was right on 452 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 5: the cusp of it. They got us that that defense 453 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 5: within him and Mobley is insane. You know what I'm saying, ain't. 454 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: No layups, bubble everything is. You know what I'm saying, 455 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 4: challenge good squad man. And they're fun to watch. 456 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta kind of whispered because you know, no, 457 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 5: but I'll. 458 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: I've watched Cleveland basketball this year and I've enjoyed it, 459 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Land's game is pretty as fuck. 460 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 4: Bro godd just a dog. I remember when he got 461 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 4: drafted and I was like, that's a lot of guards. 462 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 5: I think they had old boy from Alabama, Sexton, and 463 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 5: then they also had Clarkson at the time, you know 464 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 5: what I mean. 465 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: And I'm like, what they're gonna do with him? Ship, 466 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: he gonna do what he want to do, That's what's 467 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 4: gonna happen. 468 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 5: I wonder what's gonna happen with Sexton now that you know, 469 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 5: I don't know if he's necessarily needed, you. 470 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 4: Know, like he like he once was, so he's gonna 471 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 4: get his money somewhere. I know that much. 472 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: That's the type of guy sex and is You're gonna 473 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: pay him his money, either in Cleveland or he's going 474 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: somewhere and he's gonna get it. 475 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 4: The King is gonna give him that sixty mil or somebody. No, 476 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: it's it's somebody. It's a Blazer, dag. Look what we 477 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: got you, We got your Collin Sexton. 478 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 3: Did either of you guys own a lebron Cabs jersey? 479 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 4: I never did, I will. 480 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: I have searched high and low for years for the 481 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: throwback nineties one, a black one with the with the 482 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: sky blue streak. 483 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 484 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: I've wanted that one forever, but I can't find one. 485 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: I feel like everyone I knew bought a Broun Heat 486 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: jersey ten seconds after they said what number he was 487 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: gonna be wearing for the Heat. And I don't feel 488 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: like I ever saw in real life a Broun Cave jersey, 489 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: which is interesting, but it's just and I think that's 490 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 2: literally just the brand name of the cities, so like, 491 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: I think that's. 492 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: Literally what it was. 493 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: Because Braun in Cleveland as a baby is some of 494 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: my favorite basketball memories of my whole life, you know 495 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: what I mean, and what we were. I think we 496 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: were all still young enough that you most of the 497 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 2: time you watch sports, You got your friends over, you're 498 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: at your friend's house. So it was like a group 499 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: thing in the way that Twitter like almost but not 500 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: quite gets you to you know what I mean. 501 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 3: I don't know a Broun throwback Caves jersey that I 502 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: like that the black with the blue one. 503 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: It all right, Let's talk about the biggest headline in 504 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: the NBA this week. 505 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: Jannis, the Nassas and alex. 506 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: Antota compo competing in the NBA Skills Challenge. 507 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 3: The star power, the excitement. I'm fucking fired up. I'm 508 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: out of my mind. 509 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 4: I'm live tweeting. 510 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask Beko if I. 511 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 2: Could do a volume sports social media takeover for. 512 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 5: The Skills RNY on the pod right now, Dog, So 513 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 5: what's this new? This new setup? What's the new setup? 514 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 5: I don't understand none of the new stuff they're doing. 515 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: Are you asking me to give details about the please? 516 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: Please do It's this is the nicest thing you've ever 517 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: done for me. 518 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 4: John, It's unbelievable. 519 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: They are They're gonna be competing as teams. 520 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be uh Jannis and his brothers, which 521 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: they literally created this format for them. So they're gonna 522 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: compete the three of them as a team against the Calves, 523 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: which is gonna be Darius Garland, Jared Allen and Evan 524 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: Mobley and rookies Cade Cunningham, Scottie Barnes and Josh Giddy. 525 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: And it's gonna be a four round competition with those 526 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 2: three teams going against each other. And I'm gonna be 527 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: honest with you, this shit sounds fire as fuck to me. 528 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 5: And I already like Bounce Past Challenge, a lot of 529 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 5: bounce passes, a lot of Chris Chess passes. 530 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: In the first round, player will shoot from five different 531 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: spots from ten to thirty feet. Second round feature passing 532 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: through three moving targets. Okay, so we're getting into the NBA, 533 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: We're getting into the NFL Quarterback Challenge, shit from the 534 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl that I also loved. And then there's a 535 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 2: timed team relay with five different skills to make up 536 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 2: the third round. I'm very excited about it. I think 537 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of fun, and I do 538 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: genuinely appreciate this about Giannis. That Like, there's been a 539 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: lot of talk about why Braun never did the dunk contest, 540 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: And I really appreciate about Giannis that he's just still 541 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 2: even as he's become one of the faces of the league, 542 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: he's still just like a happy kid who's just like 543 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: skills Challenge. 544 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: That sounds fun. Could my brothers come. 545 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 4: Calling up? 546 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: That is from fucking G League where he's got like 547 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: six minutes a game to All Star. 548 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 4: That's how you do it, man, That's how you're a 549 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 4: big brother. Yeah, all right, skills. 550 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: And that's the first. 551 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: This is my only problem with the format, Jackson, is 552 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: they should have done the relay first, and they're the 553 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: shooting is first. So there's a decent chance that the 554 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: reason anyone other than me is watching the Skills Challenge 555 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: will be eliminated after the first round, which would not 556 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: be a good Like, I don't know why they didn't 557 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: have the shooting be last, you know what, I have 558 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: the exact same thought. I like, I don't even know 559 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: if Giannice is going to do that well in the shooting, 560 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 2: so we'll see hero. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe a 561 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: structural issue there for the fucking Skills challenge's But you know. 562 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 5: What, Fadeaway was looking good against Braun last night on 563 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 5: the way to a drubbing of the with that, I'm. 564 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 4: Like, with that back down spin move, ran out. This 565 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 4: motherfucker just pretend Broun in front of you. Giannis shit, 566 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: damn a look alike food. 567 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 3: You know. 568 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 2: So I mentioned on the show, I read Mirn Fader's 569 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: biography of j Honest, which I if you want to 570 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: just love that guy as a human being, I highly 571 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: recommend her biography of It's a great book. He he 572 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: was talking, there's all these interviews with him when he's 573 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 2: a rookie and in his second year about how excited 574 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: he was to play against Braun. And I think, again, 575 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: like maybe because he's maybe because he you know, he's 576 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 2: coming from a different country, he's super comfortable talking about 577 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 2: that in a way that sometimes younger NBA players who 578 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: grew up here are like a little more guarded about 579 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: their own personal emotions, understandably, but like I know, for him, 580 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: that's exactly like it was anytime bron got to play 581 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: against Kobe or something. He's like I get to drop 582 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: forty Like he gets excited to drop forty four on 583 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 2: the Lakers in a way that's like very obvious when 584 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: you're watching the game and very disgusting to me as 585 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 2: a a Lakers. 586 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: With the boys in trouble. Let's talk. 587 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: Let's let's let's talk about the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode that. 588 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 4: Was a playoff team. Yes, yeah, they'll play in team. Yeah, 589 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 4: we'll see if they're in the. 590 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 5: Playoffs, playing games the playoffs. 591 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: Let's the start of the NBA playoffs. 592 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 4: So what you said, we're the top ten or the 593 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: top ten team. 594 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: We're absolutely a top ten team. I stake my reputation 595 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 3: is a. 596 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 4: Top ten team in the West. That's a cool. Let's 597 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 4: talk about the clip. 598 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: It was like a whole season of Curby Your Enthusiasm 599 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 2: in five fucking seconds of Bron and Ad who've been 600 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: putting up crazy numbers, uh sitting on the bench, exhausted 601 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: from the weight of being the only two NBA players 602 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: on the roster, and rush coming over to rub their 603 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: heads and be like, hey, we're gonna get it together, 604 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: guys like we got this, and they just straight up 605 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here. 606 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: That ma bro. 607 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: That shit was so awkward, that dog, it was awkward 608 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: for everyone involved. It was awkward for bron ad, for Russ, 609 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: for all of us watching it. It doesn't feel like 610 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: that's Russ. Russ isn't the we'll get him next time, guys, 611 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: keep your head up. Russ is the asshole, you know, 612 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: clapping in enus Cant's face. 613 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's who Russ is. 614 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: Russ isn't antagonizer, He's not I will get him next time, guys, dude. 615 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: And it feels like you know, and and Russ said 616 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: in the postgame, you know, I wasn't in the game. 617 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: I was just trying to help however I could. And 618 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: it's like I said, it just didn't feel like Russ 619 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: in that moment. And I don't know how much longer 620 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be there. He might not make it past 621 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: the deadline. 622 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 4: Who knows. 623 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 6: Man. 624 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 5: Oh, I don't want to sound that's how the clip 625 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 5: that we pulled, I sound like a troll, you know 626 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 5: what I mean. I sound like I always got a 627 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 5: troller rush, you. 628 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. And I don't mean to sound 629 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 4: that way. 630 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: Like I'm just saying, the man's lost his legs and 631 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 5: it's hard to play the way he's played for his 632 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 5: TI career. 633 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: And his personality were predicated. 634 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: On those legs. 635 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 5: On those legs, you feel me, and just seeing him 636 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 5: do that, I mean it's the first time, you know, 637 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 5: fucking Skip Bayless saying what everybody was thinking. 638 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: I can't believe Skip body that man like I Skip Bro, 639 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: Skip three it out. Just watch Westbrook try to cheer 640 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: up Lebron and ad on the benches. The game was indy, 641 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: No Russ. They're inconsolable. They're stuck playing with you, You 642 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: and all casts there too. 643 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 4: Goddamn Bro. I love Russ, Bro, I love Russ. I 644 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 4: love Russ. I'm not gonna say no more. 645 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: Bro. 646 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 4: It's just its ship. He's it's so hom Bro. 647 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 5: Them legs gone, Baby, it's them legs gone, and it's 648 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 5: just not ship. 649 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: Ain't sweet no more. 650 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: Let's make fun of Jimmy Butler. 651 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler lied to the people, told Complex that he 652 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: wants more brawls in the NBA, So they're not letting 653 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: us get into brawls, so nobody's gonna let us do that. 654 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 3: I wish they would let us do that a little bit. 655 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: If I'm just being honest, Jimmy, I wish I would 656 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: go to the gym more often. But I don't need 657 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: permission from someone else to go to the gym. I 658 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: just have to do it. Like if you want more 659 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 2: fights in the NBA, you are in the NBA. 660 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: E the change you wish to see, Jimmy. 661 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: We all saw Yokish make fucking Morse the back of 662 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: Morse's head, touch his spine, and you ain't too shit, 663 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: dog like Bee the change you wish to see? Dog, 664 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: it was yelled a lot. Yeah, you yelled a lot. 665 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 4: You know you yelled a lot. 666 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: You can't wait with the boys, you know, fucking twenty 667 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: minutes later, trying to act like you were trying to 668 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: get in the locker room and see him and all 669 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: that fucking theatrics. But Dog, you can make this happen. 670 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: Why are you telling us you know what it needs 671 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: to be when you can make it that way? 672 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 4: Because he doesn't want it to be that. He was 673 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 4: just saying, shit, you've seen all them clips and he 674 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: was pulled up. 675 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: Bro. 676 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: They had receipts. You know what I'm saying. 677 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: They do a super man, the old man. 678 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 4: Bullying them, you know what I mean? 679 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 5: Like dog, Gee, and also don't know, we don't need 680 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 5: you to do that nobody needs more fights in the NBA. 681 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 682 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 5: I do like a little bit more hatred, you know 683 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, a little bit more actually not liking 684 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 5: the other team. 685 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 4: I don't need no brawl. Come on, gee, you. 686 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: Know what I mean? 687 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 4: You just talking ship. 688 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: I don't need more brawls, but I wouldn't mind more. 689 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind. 690 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 4: The more fake fighting. 691 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: Well, like, there's something between fake fighting and an all 692 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: out brawl. 693 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: Shippiness, just a little bit more harmless scuffle like like 694 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: like that. 695 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 4: I love that. That was entertaining as fun. 696 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: We had the fingerhead and point and the jab and 697 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: all types of sh. 698 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 4: A spit spit and a uppercut was involved in that, 699 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? That's crazy. But what about 700 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 4: the one with all. 701 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 6: Uffles when somebody, you know, put somebody back into flagrations 702 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 6: than who the knicks heat PJ. 703 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 4: Brown when he when he got damn somebody. Yeah, a 704 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 4: little bit more of that, you know what I mean? 705 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, not actual punches thrown. I 706 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 5: don't want to know what was it a the dude 707 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 5: that guy punched it was about? 708 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's different. We don't want any of that. 709 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 5: But that's I mean, these are big guys landing hard punches, 710 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 5: guys that. 711 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 4: Have you seen you you've watched that clip, Yeah, I. 712 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: Mean that's a that's like a Category five hurricane, like 713 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: perfect storm of a dude getting his ship right, because 714 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: he's running as fast as he can into someone who 715 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: is punched like that was his head being a fastball, 716 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: Like he ran his face as fast as he could 717 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: into the exact wrong point of the whole universe, of 718 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: everywhere in the universe that exists. He put his jaw 719 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: in the exact wrong spot. But that doesn't usually happen 720 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: when someone gets punched, you know what I mean? 721 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel you there's some of those punches 722 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: shocked through at people and didn't land that if he'd 723 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 3: landed him. You right, you were right. 724 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: That might be almost Phil brad Miller on National TV. 725 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: Once because I don't want to know what it would 726 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: feel like to get punched by Shaq. 727 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 4: Bro. 728 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: Have you ever seen him hold a coke can? 729 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 5: No, because a coke can is gone once he grabs it. 730 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 5: We've nobody seen it. It's disappeared in his head. 731 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: Bro, That's right. 732 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: The NBA as part of its NBA seventy five celebration, 733 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: has released released its list of the top five coaches 734 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: in league history. 735 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna read names. 736 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: Stop me when you hear one that's not like the 737 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: other one, all right? Phil Jackson, Absolutely, Chuck Daily, Lenny Wilkins, 738 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: Red Auerbach, Pat Riley, Larry Brown, Red Holzman, Casey Jones, 739 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: Don Nelson, Jack Ramsey, Steve Kerr, Greg Popovich, Doc Rivers, 740 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: Records Scratch, Eric Spolshrow, Jerry Sloaner on there too, But 741 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: Doc Rivers. Someone on this list has a clip saying 742 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: that Doc Rivers cannot coach. 743 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 3: Phil Jackson, and I will never forget this. 744 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 2: Phil Jackson is giving a motivational speech to the Lakers, 745 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 2: saying they know how to lose in the fourth quarter. 746 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: He said, the NBA record for blown leads in a 747 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: fucking playoff series, He's shattered. He's Steph currying the record 748 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 2: for blown leads in fucking playoff series. I genuinely don't 749 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 2: understand this shit. And I know everyone respects and loves Doc, 750 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: But how is he on this list over George Carl 751 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: How is he on this list over so many guys 752 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: you could bring up. I really was like, this is 753 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: a bit too far on the Buddy Buddy club to me. 754 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, I'm I've always said that Doc 755 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: Rivers has been riding off of TIBs coattails for since 756 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: that fucking two thousand and eight championship. You know what 757 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Tibbs defensive schemes won them that ring, you 758 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And we've seen, you know, Doc 759 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: when when without Tibbs, and he's turned to the biggest 760 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: fucking lead blower in NBA history. I do think the 761 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: biggest snub and it's a dude who were just talking about. 762 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: I think it's Rudy t bro If you look at 763 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: all all the coaches on the list, these are the 764 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: coaches who have gone back to back, who have won 765 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: back to back championships, right John Cooonla who was coached 766 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: the mic and Lakers, you know, with that fucking Charlie 767 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: Chaplin ass Era. 768 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: He didn't make the cut. 769 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: So I don't mind that, you know what I mean? 770 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: But our back, yeah, Coula, Yeah, our back. You know 771 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: he made the list. Fucking Riley he made the list, right, 772 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: Riley's on it isn't he gotta be yes, Okay, Yeah, 773 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: Riley made the list, Chuck Dally, he made the list, 774 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: Phil Jackson, Steve Kerr. 775 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 4: And Spoke they all made the list. 776 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: And they're the only coaches and who have repeated and 777 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: Rudy T repeated too. And I think Rudy T doesn't 778 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: get a lot of it because I think a lot 779 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: of people asterisk those two season because they weren't the 780 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: MJ seasons, which is bullshit, because you know what I'm saying, Like, like, 781 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: for one, you're telling me that I kem winning have 782 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: held his own against fucking Luke Longley and Will Purdue 783 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: after he went through fucking Pat and Shock to get 784 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: his raids, you know what I'm saying, And and and 785 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: that ninety five run. That's an all time coaching run, 786 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: bro And I don't think it gets talked about enough. 787 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 4: Though. 788 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: The Rockets kind of stumbled into that postseason. They were 789 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: the number six seed. They had to go through the 790 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: Stocking them Alone Jazz, through the Chuck Suns, through the 791 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: fucking David Robinson Spurs, when Robinson was MVP playing the 792 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: best ball of his career, when they had the best 793 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: front court in the league with Sean Elliott, worm and him, 794 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: and then they went and to the finals and swept 795 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: Shack and Penny as a sixth seed, you know what 796 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, yeah, Rudy t is for sure the 797 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: biggest snub on this list. 798 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 5: For me was crazy in those Series two man, Robert 799 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 5: was a fucking I remember, I was like, who, I 800 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 5: didn't even know who he was. Probably you feel me, like, 801 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 5: you know, he turned it on crazy, But you look. 802 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: George Carl wanted the games like I think George Carl's 803 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: like top ten and wins too. And if you want 804 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 2: to talk stylistically, I mean, you big an argument that 805 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 2: Mike D'Antoni has had a much bigger influence on the 806 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 2: league in terms. 807 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 3: Of what he brought philosophically, you know what I mean. 808 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 4: But like he ain't one shit though, that's totally fair. 809 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, man, yeah, yeah, I mean docs one has won. 810 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 4: He is one one. 811 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 3: That one is speaking loud as fuck. 812 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 5: Right right right, he's one one. Yeah, and then he's 813 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 5: had but he's had the Big three. He's had great 814 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 5: Clippers team. He has a solid team that had no 815 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 5: business losing last year to the Hawks, you know what 816 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 5: I mean. So he wins a lot as far as 817 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 5: like regular season because he has great teams, but he 818 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 5: underperforms even more in the playoffs. You feel me so like, 819 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,720 Speaker 5: I don't know, I would love to be somebody gifted 820 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 5: with blessings, you know, underperforming and still you know, listed 821 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 5: in the as the top that's ever done it. You know, 822 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 5: that's he's actually goals. That's what I'd say. He's actually 823 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 5: goals for a nigga like me. But that's ridiculous, It 824 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 5: makes no sense. 825 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: I do want to say, I take them putting don 826 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: Nelson on there because I think we've had this conversation before. 827 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: I think I think Don Nelson is perhaps the most 828 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: underrated mind in NBA history if you look at the 829 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: way that he has revolutionized the game like he he was. 830 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: You know, he utilized the first point forward and Marcus 831 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: Johnson back in the seventies, you know, shouts at the 832 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: Home of Josiah you know what I'm saying. 833 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 4: He utilized. 834 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 1: He helped usher in the stretch forward revolution with dirt 835 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 1: in Dallas. He helped usher in the small ball revolution 836 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: with the We Believe Warriors. Like his fingerprints are all 837 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: over today's league, and he's usually ten fifteen years ahead 838 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: of the curb when he implements this revolutionary shit that 839 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: he does, so shouts them forgetting that right with Don 840 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: Nelson because like I said, I think he's the most 841 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 1: underrated NBA mind in NBA history. 842 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 3: Don Nelson is the same as there's a dude named Don. 843 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 2: Coryelle in the Air Corrielle offense for sure, who both 844 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: of them had ideas that were kind of similar of 845 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 2: like we, hey, what if it was a little faster, 846 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 2: you know, like what. 847 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 3: If we tried to you know how you have to 848 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 3: score to win the game? What if we tried to 849 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 3: do more of that? 850 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 2: And the stuff that they put in it seems so 851 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 2: obvious twenty years down all you mentioned fifteen years ahead 852 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: of the time, but at the time, like Don Coryelle 853 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: invented the route tree, you know what I mean, and 854 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: stuff like that, where you're like, that's not even we 855 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 2: don't even consider that an invention, you know, that's just 856 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 2: like such a part of the sport. 857 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 3: And it's the same thing with. 858 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: Don Nelson, Like the NBA's offense is don Nelson, Like, yeah, 859 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 2: everyone runs some element. 860 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: Of what you just talked about, right right, Like I 861 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: remember how revolutionary was in two thousand and seven with 862 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 1: when we believe Warriors bounced the masks, They're like they're 863 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: throwing out three forwards instead of two fours in the center. 864 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 4: Is what is this sorcery that we're seeing right now? Right? Yeah? 865 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: So for sure it's and that's you know, commonplace in 866 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: the NBA. Now, like I said, you know, Nelson's fingerprints 867 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: are all over today's league. 868 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: But it's about likability, bro, And you know Don Nelson 869 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: is a like come smoke weed at my reserve and 870 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: fucking Hawaii dude, and everyone loves him. So you know, 871 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: it's it's easier to get into a list, which I understand. 872 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 2: The NFL season all comes down to this Super Bowl 873 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 2: fifty six. To celebrate, FanDuel's sportsbook is hooking all customers 874 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 2: up with a risk free same game parlay. 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Untenable. 908 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 4: It's been a while, it's been a while, all. 909 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: Right, I am gonna say the following thing, and I 910 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 2: understand that many people are gonna disagree with me, but 911 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 2: this is my tenable thing, which is, let people get 912 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 2: robbed at the super Bowl. Bro, stop trying to save 913 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 2: people flying from the Midwest to LA with these adviceless 914 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 2: and never just let them get robbed, Bro, Like, why 915 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 2: should the hotels and fancy restaurants be the only people 916 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 2: making money at the super Bowl. Let let's let everyone 917 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 2: eat at the super Bowl. Let the streets have more 918 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 2: friends that you know, I relate more to people that 919 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 2: they're trying to scam someone out of their fucking credit 920 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: card than I. 921 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 3: Do people flying in to spend tens. 922 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 2: The cheapest ticket to the super Bowl is six thousand dollars. 923 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 2: These people do not need your advice to help. They've 924 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 2: all got traveler's insurance. Just chill out and let let 925 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 2: nature take its course. 926 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 4: Let the city get their stimulus. Let the city some 927 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 4: of those benefits from tourism for the reasons. Christ that's 928 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:51,439 Speaker 4: a take. 929 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 3: That's take. 930 00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 2: Oh I tweeted that yesterday. I've never had more people 931 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 2: text me but not reach tweet to tweet. 932 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 4: I'll give you my opinion off the pod. I'm gonna 933 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 4: text you. 934 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 2: All right. I think that's all the time we've got 935 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 2: for Jenkins and Jones this week. Hopefully no major trades 936 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 2: happen so we don't have to hop on record. An 937 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 2: emergency addendum to. 938 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 4: The podcast, Mary, don't you fucking do it? You son 939 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 4: him a bitch, do it. Fuck it. 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