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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norriy

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Speaker 1: with you our first guest. Kenny Irish, also known as kW,

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Speaker 1: as an author, musician, sales marketing professional. Originally from the

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Speaker 1: northern parts of Vermont, he relocated to the beautiful area

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Speaker 1: of upstate New York with a lifelong passion of folklore, monsters,

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Speaker 1: UFO stories, writing in public, speaking at writers groups, and

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Speaker 1: various other platforms around the country. Now he continues this journey,

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Speaker 1: focusing on both fiction and nonfiction works. kW is also

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Speaker 1: a researcher for the New York Bigfoot Society called the NYBS,

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Speaker 1: whose parent company is the Tricity Paranormal Society. They have

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Speaker 1: appeared on the National Geographic Channel, the travel channel Destination America.

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Speaker 1: kW is also the co host of the NYBS radio

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Speaker 1: show Kenny Welcome to the show. Hey George, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing, my friend? Welcome back? How have you been

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Speaker 1: unfantastic than surviving the pandemic and being healthy? How about you?

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Speaker 1: Same thing, same thing. Lots of travel, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of supplements and things like that. So I'm staying out

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Speaker 1: of harm's away, I guess awesome. So what's you know

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Speaker 1: in the Bigfoot world? Well, new in the Bigfoot world. UM,

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Speaker 1: I really wouldn't say there's a whole lot of new

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Speaker 1: still exists, you know. Um, nothing's been proven one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent one way or the next, if if you will.

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Speaker 1: How did your interest get into this? Um? I grew um,

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Speaker 1: like you mentioned, I grew up in northern Vermont, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know I started out, um, you know, a big

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Speaker 1: Godzilla fan, and I live near Lake Champlain, and um,

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Speaker 1: in Lake Champlain, there's there's a little creature known as

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Speaker 1: champ the Lake Champlain monster Champaign, right, yes, yes, And

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Speaker 1: that that really kind of kind of got me going

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Speaker 1: in the direction that I'm in today. The thought of

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Speaker 1: like a Godzilla type of serpentine creature living in the

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Speaker 1: lake where I lived growing up, you know, as as

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Speaker 1: as a young boy, was just really intriguing to me

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Speaker 1: and exciting. And that's what kind of set me on

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Speaker 1: the path to uh, you know, looking up monsters and

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Speaker 1: really kind of getting into into into creatures and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, so I went from you know, like Godzilla

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Speaker 1: uh you know, you know, any anything that was um

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Speaker 1: where I am today. And uh, just you know, looking

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Speaker 1: into two you know, different um you know, different encounters

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Speaker 1: into the history and kind of kind of scene where

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Speaker 1: it all came from. I got interested in Bigfoot, sasquatch,

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Speaker 1: with the abominable snowman, the yetie, how did the Himalayas?

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Speaker 1: That just really got me into it. And I didn't

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Speaker 1: even know about Bigfoot at the time. This is years ago.

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Speaker 1: I was a kid. I thought that that's all. There

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Speaker 1: was this abominable snowman, this furry creature up in the

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Speaker 1: sasquatch stories going all over the place, and that they

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Speaker 1: could be one of the same, very close biologically. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because, like like you mentioned, I

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Speaker 1: and it was seen all over the country, all over

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Speaker 1: the world. And it was when I got a little

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Speaker 1: found out, you know, the truth that you know, encounters

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Speaker 1: it was the same exact bipedal creature running, running, rampant

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Speaker 1: across the earth. What do you think sasquatch might be?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm very much on the flesh and blood side.

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Speaker 1: I'm a ninety percent flesh and blood. Um. I leave

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Speaker 1: continue to have conversations with other individuals on their thoughts. Um. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, definitely for me, I'm more on the flesh

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Speaker 1: the research that I do regarding sasquatch, um, I go

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Speaker 1: I'm in research because there's so many different directions that

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Speaker 1: like I said, flesh and blood. That's kind of where

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Speaker 1: I stand right now at this point in time. Kenny,

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Speaker 1: what do you think of the et connection or the

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Speaker 1: other dimension possibilities as far as um the extraterrestrial side

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Speaker 1: because I, for me personally, I would believe that they

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Speaker 1: definitely not sold by any means that they're extraterrestrial. But

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Speaker 1: them actually walking out of a spaceship. Um, those are

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Speaker 1: very far and few in between. But um, you know,

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Speaker 1: be one of the reasons why they are are present

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Speaker 1: at that point in time when um, you know, folks

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Speaker 1: I had never thought of that until that individual brought

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Speaker 1: that up. But uh, yeah, you know Chebaka. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I mean you know who who's who's to say that? Uh?

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Speaker 1: what about video evidence or film evidence? What do you

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Speaker 1: think of the Patterson gimblin the film? Um? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's very um it's almost too good to be true.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, the more I watch it,

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Speaker 1: But for me personally, when I push both those sides,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, it's like with any any video.

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Speaker 1: When when you robed the American Cryptids, which came out

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Speaker 1: what several months ago, yes, in March. How many different

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Speaker 1: cryptids are there in this country? Not total numbers, but

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Speaker 1: different kinds. Oh, how many different kinds? Um, there's a lot. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: being brought into light. I mean, you know, dog Man's

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Speaker 1: But again, there's just so so many out there that

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Speaker 1: I've missed every champ sighting I've missed every big foot sighting. UM.

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Speaker 1: I've been in areas where UM individuals had had seen

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Speaker 1: And he said that this was definitely a big foot.

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Speaker 1: So I unfortunately was at work in my office while

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Speaker 1: So UM, yeah, I'm late to the party. I'm that

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Speaker 1: a physical bigfoot? UM? I think I think there's a

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Speaker 1: But UM, I think for the individuals who who you know,

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Speaker 1: the mystery is kind of kind of going to kind

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Speaker 1: So UM, I really think it's it's like anything else

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Speaker 1: claimed him an encounter with UM, this elusive creature. So boy, again,

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Speaker 1: the mystery behind it and UM, the lore behind it

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Speaker 1: But to take it to the next level, if UM

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Speaker 1: me about it is what you know, science might do

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Speaker 1: it turns into something that now you know, we've got

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Speaker 1: to research it, we've got to dissect it, we've got

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Speaker 1: to do this, We've got to do that. Um. But honestly,

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Speaker 1: it a secret? Well, you know, it's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like with with aliens, you know, an extraterrestrial you know,

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Speaker 1: they kept a secret for the longest time. And what

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Speaker 1: information saying, hey, by the way, UFOs do exist. We

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Speaker 1: I always say this, I think what's going to have

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Speaker 1: have to be another pandemic, because you know, it was

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Speaker 1: it was kind of ironic that, right, at that point

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Speaker 1: the way, UFOs, you know, we are looking into this,

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Speaker 1: there is something to this, and you're going to diet coronavirus,

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Speaker 1: really no more talk after that. So I think we're

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Speaker 1: the government's going to actually come out and say that

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Speaker 1: they do exist. Did you have fun writing American Cryptids?

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Speaker 1: I did. I did. I had a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: It was definitely challenging, you know, covering all fifty states,

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Speaker 1: but it was very um It was one of my

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Speaker 1: first nonfiction books. So the biggest challenge when it comes

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Speaker 1: and making sure that you know what you're putting in

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Speaker 1: there is to the best of your ability and what

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Speaker 1: you've researched. M and I always try to anything I'm researching,

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Speaker 1: I try to go as far back as possible on

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Speaker 1: lot of what I put in that book, I want

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Speaker 1: as far back as I possibly could to get the

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Speaker 1: earliest information, to try to have everything as accurate as possible.

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