1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: On the Jordan Harbinger Show, You'll hear amazing stories from 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: people that have lived them, from spies to CEOs, even 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family. You're 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: about to hear a preview of The Jordan Harbinger Show 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: with Jack Garcia, who did just that. My career was 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: twenty four out of twenty six years was solely dedicated 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: working on the cover. I walk in, I'm in the bar. 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: How there's a bar made? Dare good looking young lady 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: see serving me? Joey, Hey, what would you like? I 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: usually my frank was give me a kettle, one martini, 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: three olives, class of water on the side. I finished 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: the drink. The guys come in. I'm gonna go go 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: in my pocket, take out the big wad of money. Hey, am, 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: I give her one hundred hours. If you're with the mob, 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: I say, hey, Jordan, you're on record with us. That 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: means we protect you. Nobody could shake you down. We 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: could shake you down. Oh, you're on record with us. 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: For more on how Jack became so trusted in the 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: highest levels of the Gambino organization, check out episode three 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: ninety two of the Jordan Harbinger show. This is a 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly show. I love how everything merges together. I 22 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: love it. I love how history merges together. We've been 23 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: talking pretty much all week about Columbus this and Columbus 24 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: that in Spain and Europe and all these things, and 25 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: we never really dug into why were the Europeans suddenly 26 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: so keen on finding new lands elsewhere, on exploring the 27 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: rest of the world. Now, you can say, and it 28 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: would be partially true. Why, I mean, it's just the 29 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: nature of man. We've we've got to go see what 30 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: has what hasn't been seen, and conquered what hasn't been conquered. 31 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, that's that's partially true. But why that way? 32 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: Why are you going to Africa? Why are you going 33 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: over to India East and that eventually west, as we 34 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: talked about with Columbus, Why there? I mean, there's another direction, 35 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: right you are Europe. I don't know if you know this. 36 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: There's another direction. It's called East. Why y'all this europe talk, Well, 37 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: it's because the East was occupied, occupied by an underrated 38 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: historical empire, the Ottomans. Ottomans really officially began they think 39 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: around thirteen hundred fourteenth fifteen sixteenth century, though, that's when 40 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: they were giants, and there was a time when the 41 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: Ottoman Empire was probably the most powerful empire on earth. 42 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: And when I say probably, this is what I mean 43 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: pretty much whenever we're discussing an empire of any kind 44 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: having this long period of success, as we had a 45 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: million times, we should always really say probably the biggest, 46 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: probably the most powerful, probably the richest. And the reason 47 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: we always have to throw probably in there is China. 48 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: China was very, very very isolated from the areas we're 49 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: talking about for most of its history. But China is 50 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: one of those funny places. They've had obviously ups and downs, 51 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: but they've had megapowerful dynasties and empires firm ever, I mean, 52 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: forever you name it, they're there now. The Ottomans, though. 53 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: Part of the reason, really the main reason we don't 54 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: talk as much about the Ottomans as others is the 55 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: Muslim thing, which I find to be really odd. I 56 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: guess I should say I find it to be odd 57 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: because that doesn't stop us from talking about all kinds 58 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: of other non Christian empires, right, I mean, what's I mean? 59 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: It's not as if it's some implicit Christian bias. How 60 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: much time do we spend on all the others, the 61 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: Romans and the Greeks, and I mean the accummenated Persians 62 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: weren't exactly worshiping Jesus. We talk about all of them, 63 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: but when it comes to the Ottomans, there's always that around. 64 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: And even if it's not outright sneering, I'm not doing 65 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: the oh poor Muslim bigotry thing. I'm not doing that. 66 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: Even if it's not outright sneering, it's just we kind 67 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: of forget about them as if they're not there. They 68 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: ruled things for a long time, and maybe just maybe 69 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of bitterness, a little bit of saltiness 70 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: gets passed down through the ages. Now, why would Europeans 71 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: and the descendants of Europeans, which would be mainly US 72 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: here in America, why would be we be salty about 73 00:05:52,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: the Ottoman Empire? Wow, that little place called Constantinople, you 74 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: would know it as the still very much in existence 75 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: is Stanbul today? Is Stanbole? Turkey supposed to be beautiful, 76 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: I should say, absolutely gorgeous. Turkey itself is supposed to 77 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: be a really cool place. It violates some of my 78 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: international travel rules, So I don't know that I'll ever visit, 79 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: but I kind of want to, just because there's so 80 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: much cool history there. But Istanbul, before it was Istanbul 81 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: was Constantinople. And what is what was Constantinople? It was 82 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: the Empire, the capital of the Eastern Roman Empire. When 83 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: the Roman Empire split, You remember we've talked about this 84 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: one hundred times. Point when Rome really began its decline, 85 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: they split up. Sound familiar anybody been suggesting that recently? Anyway, 86 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into that right now. When 87 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: Rome began its decline, they split up into the Western 88 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: Roman Empire and the Eastern Roman Empire. And don't get 89 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: me wrong, they each had plenty of problems, but the 90 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: West had many, many, many more problems, more powerful barbarians 91 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: at its doors. It just was not going to make it. 92 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: It was never going to make it. And one of 93 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: the main problems they had was economically, they just they 94 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: just weren't. They weren't up to snuff. But the Eastern 95 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: Roman Empire they were making it. Remember, they eventually turned 96 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: into the Byzantine Empire. But if you asked the Byzantines 97 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: who they were, none of them would have said, oh, 98 00:07:55,280 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: were the Byzantines. They would have said, we're Roman. And 99 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: they created this incredible capital and then named it after 100 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: Constantine the Great and they called it Constantinople. Now I 101 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: want you too, in order to get a better idea 102 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: of what we're talking about today, if you're in a 103 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: position that's safe to do so, I want you to 104 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: open up a map of Istanbul. Now, don't wait right now, 105 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: it's going to be helpful to our story. Do that 106 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: thing on your phone or your computer where you zoom 107 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: out and you're essentially looking at all of Europe and 108 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: Asia and then zoom in to where Istanbul is on 109 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: the center. Do I even have to explain to you 110 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: why that would be a really, really, really important place 111 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: that Chris just said, talk about a chokehold. Look at that. 112 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: In case you're not looking at your map or can't 113 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: do so safely, let me just give you the brief picture. Here. 114 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: You have Africa, right, and you have eastern Africa, and 115 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: then what's what's directly north of that the Mediterranean Sea. 116 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: And north of the Mediterranean Sea, as you know, you 117 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: have Italy, Greece, Bulgaria, so on and so forth. Well, 118 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: there's a body of water on the northeastern corner of 119 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: the Mediterranean Sea. There's a little land and then a 120 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: body of water called the Black Sea. The Black Sea 121 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: is bordering Ukraine, Russia, Georgia, Turkey today. It's like the 122 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: entire northern border of Turkey today. Only there's this funny thing. 123 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: There's this wee little almost on your map looks like 124 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: a creek. It's not a creek, but almost looks like 125 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: a creek, connecting the Mediterranean Sea and the Black Sea. 126 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: And there you will find the gigantic city of Istanbul, 127 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: sitting right on the mouth of that creek. In an 128 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: era where trade routes by sea and land are everything. 129 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: How megapowerful would you be if you controlled that exact area. 130 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: You wouldn't need a big industry at all. Just tax 131 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: everyone else's home titlelock dot com. 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One, they begin to 150 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: decline to and people struggle with this concept of national 151 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: decline especially. I mean, look, we're dealing with it right now. 152 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. We're in the middle of it right now. 153 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm not I know I'm the Orc, but I can't 154 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: see the future. I don't know that we're oh, we'll 155 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: be gone in ten years. That's probably ridiculous. I can't 156 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: say that even if we're gone in a hundred, though 157 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: we know we're somewhere on our decline as a nation, 158 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: and people struggle with explaining why, explaining how. And they 159 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: struggle with that because there's not always an obvious reason 160 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: laid out. Why would the Eastern Roman Empire, the Byzantines, 161 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: why would they ever begin to falter or collapse? Remember 162 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: we just pointed out where the city is. It's not 163 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: as if it's stopped being a trade route at some 164 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: point in time. There are always a laundry list of 165 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: reasons for major, major, major powerful empires to rot away, 166 00:13:54,640 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: but they're almost universally internal, and the same thing thing 167 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: happened to them. They just a little political corruption here, 168 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: a little scandal there, a little war you couldn't afford, 169 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: and then maybe a second a bad ruler or two, 170 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: and soon your megapowerful empire. It's still there. People still 171 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: fear it. But you've got a problem, and that problem 172 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: is this. You're painted rust by now. And that's okay. 173 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: You can survive like that for a long time unless 174 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: somebody who's not painted rust, unless somebody who's strong and ambitious, 175 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: unless they happen to lay their eyes on you and 176 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: realize your painted rust, then you're in a bit of 177 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: a pickle. And that's the second thing that got Constantinople. 178 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: You see, it was this shining jewel. Part of the 179 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: reason people were so salty about what's going to happen. 180 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think that's what they are salty about. 181 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: It is it was the jewel of Christianity, mega, mega church. 182 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: It was. It was I mean, I don't want to 183 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: call it the center of Christianity, but it was one 184 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: of them. It was a big deal. And then you 185 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: have these people who Christians were aware of but didn't 186 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: necessarily consider them a gigantic threat before this time called 187 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: Muslims coming from the East. In the Christians, their hands 188 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: were not clean, or the Christian world, their hands were 189 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: not clean as far as conflict between the two groups, 190 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: and the Muslim hands certainly weren't clean either. They were 191 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: already killing each other in a minor way here, minor 192 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: way there. I say minor because it wasn't me having 193 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: a spear shoved into my guts, but you know what 194 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, on a grander scale, minor. But they weren't 195 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: considered to be necessarily a challenge to Christian Europe at first. However, 196 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: the Muslims, especially in this day and age, they had 197 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: some big, big, big advantages more than they do today. 198 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,359 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I know that's going to be horribly insulting. 199 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: Guess what, I don't care. Muslims in this day and 200 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: age were one extremely organized, extremely clean when it comes 201 00:16:54,680 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: to sanitation, extremely interested in things like science and technology, astrology, 202 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: the study of nature, engineering. Their religion helped them organize 203 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: into building some of the greatest cities and doing some 204 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: of the greatest scientific advancements the world has seen by 205 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: that point in time. Now, if you're a Christian and 206 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: you're yelling at me right now so that I'm a Christian, 207 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: that's reality. It helps people to organize around something. Even 208 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: if you don't believe in what Muslims believe. I don't, 209 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: you can acknowledge the incredible things that happened, and they 210 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: were building something quickly, and what it helped do was 211 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: bring barbarian tribes. Not sure if that's the way we 212 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: ever want to put that. Not that I'm worried about 213 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: offending anybody, but we call barbarians. We call them barbarians 214 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: just because they're smaller. I have a city of five 215 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people. We still poop in jars. Oh that 216 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: barbarian tribe of a thousand people, totally uncivilized scum. It's 217 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: just they're smaller lots of the time. But they helped 218 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: bring unorganized people around a centralized order of organization, and 219 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: an Ottoman empire rose from these newfound tribes organizations, and 220 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: they rose in the East, and all of Christendom began 221 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: to become aware of these people. Conflict was there, but 222 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: not humongous conflict until a man named Memed the Second 223 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: came along. Maybe you haven't heard of him, maybe you've 224 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: heard of his nickname, though, Memed the Conqueror. He didn't 225 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: get that name because he's stuck to the tribal lands. 226 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: Memed the Conqueror by now has taken the reins of 227 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: a very very organized, very technologically advanced Ottoman empire, and 228 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: he sets his sights on that jewel of the world, 229 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: Constantinople or it's Stambul. Now it's not as if nobody 230 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: had ever tried it before. Remember our show on Attila. 231 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: I mean, people have tried to take Constantinople before, but 232 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: on top of being an incredible city, trade for trade reasons. 233 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: Imagine looking at your map or thinking about your map again. 234 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: Imagine getting to defend that place, if you could build 235 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: walls and such around it. Look at it, you're almost 236 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: surrounded by water on three sides. I mean almost you are. 237 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: If they have to come at you from either one 238 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: land route or the water. How much easier does that 239 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: make your life? It was very, very very easy to defend, 240 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: especially if you had the resources to build up everything 241 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: you needed. The Ottomans knew this. Ottomans were very capable 242 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: in battle, but they knew this now. At this time 243 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: in Constantinople, there was an engineer, a weapons engineer, and 244 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: he had developed a cannon. I know what you're gonna say. 245 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: They add cannons already, kind of, they did not cannons 246 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: like this. And he approaches the ruler in Constantinople and says, yo, 247 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: I have this sweet cannon design. You should pay me 248 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: for it. Then you'll have a sweet cannon too. And 249 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 1: one of the all time blunders, which is twenty twenty hindsight, 250 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: how could he know one of the all time blunders. 251 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: The ruler of Constantinople says, Nah, not really a market 252 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: for that. Things are kind of rotting here. We don't 253 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 1: have a ton of money. We're not doing that engineer 254 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: hops on a boat, probably a horse or two, rides 255 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: on over to the Ottoman Empire and says, Yo, I'm 256 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: an engineer. I have this sweet weapon. Would you like it? 257 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: Mab But the second takes a look at it and says, yes, yes, 258 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: I would Another great night's sleep, and I have one 259 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: the night before that, and the night before that and 260 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: the night before that. And I don't have to. I 261 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: don't have to stress about tonight. And I know what 262 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: you go through. I know what it's like to stress 263 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: about tonight. So tired, I didn't sleep. I really hope 264 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: I sleep tonight. I need a good night's sleep. You 265 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: don't have to do that anymore. EBB Sleep has your solution, 266 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: and it's not sleeping pills. It's not a pillow. 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He takes that cannon and he begins his 277 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: assault well on Christian Europe, and he eventually has that 278 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: canon more than one of them actually outside of Constantinople. 279 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: And Constantinople falls to the Ottomans. Why do you think 280 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: it's a Stanbul today? I believe that is part of 281 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: the reason the Ottoman Empire doesn't get the love here 282 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: that it probably warrants. This was not a fall of 283 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: a city. This was, in the eyes of Christians back then, 284 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: the taking of a symbol of Christianity. Read. They were 285 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: big on Christian symbolism back then, huge on it. And 286 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: I guess maybe every religion is Maybe that's unfair. You 287 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: could argue Christianity might still be Judaism, Islam. They all 288 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: have symbols of some kind. What's Christianity? It's across right, 289 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: everybody knows it. But it went beyond that. Back then. 290 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: It was this Holy Church and this there, and this 291 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: had this here, and this had this there, and this 292 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: has the nails that nailed Jesus to the cross, and 293 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: this is a You know, it was big on that. 294 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: The fall of Constantinople was a big deal, a big deal, 295 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: and I think that contributed to some of the bitterness. 296 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: Now let's move forward just a little bit past mement 297 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: the second he had a son, and then he had 298 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: a son. Let's dwell on the sons for a moment, 299 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: not these sons specifically, even though we're going to talk 300 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: about one of them specifically here in a moment. The 301 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: Ottoman way of handling succession suck session, Chris, it's ask 302 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: doctor Jesse Friday. By the way, eight seven seven three 303 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: seven seven four three seven three eight seven seven three 304 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: seven seven four three seven three. You can ask me 305 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: your questions. Chris has already printed off my emailed questions, 306 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: which I will answer in a second, or you can 307 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: call them with any question. Remember your questions don't have 308 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: to be political. Now. Succession in the Ottoman Empire was 309 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: a messy bit of business, and they did things differently there. 310 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think they did things poorly when it 311 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: comes to getting the next generation ready, but it was 312 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: certainly different, certainly different. You see a king, or in 313 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: this case, they would have called him a sultan or 314 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: Saltan depending on where you went to college. A sultan 315 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: had a harem. Now, don't worry, you know the show 316 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: is kid appropriate. You think of the word harem, and 317 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: what do you think of A bunch of women exist 318 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: in an area, palace, house, whatever, to make the king's 319 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: day a little better from time to time. That's kind 320 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: of fair when we're talking about a harem in the 321 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: Ottoman Empire, but kind of not at all. The harem 322 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: in the Ottoman Empire was much, much, much, much much 323 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: more than that. Yes, it was a place where the 324 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 1: king's concubines and wives would stay. It was also a 325 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: place of education. You can essentially think of it as 326 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: a university system. And as far as the lives of 327 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: the women who live there go, if you have to, 328 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even imagine how horrible this would be. 329 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: But if you have to be captured as a slave 330 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: and taken in as a slavery into a harem, you 331 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: could do worse than being taken to an Ottoman one. 332 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: I'll put it that way. You see, the Ottomans they 333 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: didn't really want sons from the wives. They wanted sons 334 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: from the concubines. The next king would be the son 335 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: of a concubine from the Harem. Not only that one, 336 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: she gave him a son. The king would never joined 337 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: with her again. And remember when I told you this, 338 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: You can fight a lot of stories where women are 339 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: sold into subjugation that end up a lot worse than this. 340 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: If you're taken in as a slave, and almost all 341 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: these girls started out as slaves, Christian slaves as the 342 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: Ottoman Empire was fighting Christian empires. They're taken in, You're 343 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: taken in as a slave. The king decides he enjoys you, 344 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: takes you in as a concubine, You give him a son. 345 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: You are moving on up in the world, and I 346 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: mean big time. You are not laying around shackled. You 347 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: are fed, well housed well. As I said, the king 348 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: never lays another finger on you. You are, in fact 349 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: in charge of educating and training his son. The king 350 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: was fairly hands off when it came to raising and 351 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: educating his son. And when I say educating, you're not 352 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: sitting down with your son and teaching him two plus two. 353 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: You're doing that, but you're teaching him languages, lots of them. 354 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: You're taking him for advanced military training and when he's 355 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: at an age, oftentimes a way too young age, but 356 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: when he's at an appropriate age, you will take him 357 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: off to be a governor. What does that mean. It 358 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: means you're essentially a governor, and we're thought highly of 359 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: and not looked down upon. And when I say at 360 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: a young age, I'm talking boys as young as ten 361 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: would quote unquote complete their training and be sent off 362 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: to be a governor of one of the territories. I 363 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: loved how the Ottomans did this. Maybe ten is probably 364 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: a little too young, but I loved how the Ottomans 365 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: did this. They did this purposefully. You are a member 366 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: of the royal family. You are a potential heir to 367 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: the throne. I need you educated on running an empire. 368 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 1: I can't get you the appropriate education having you running 369 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: around the palace at my feet all the time. Go fly, 370 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: little Bertie, you're now the governor of X. Learn how 371 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: to administrate, learn how to raise taxes, learn how to 372 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: lead armies, learn how to run an empire. It was, 373 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: in my opinion, one of the finest training programs of 374 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: the next heir of empires I've ever seen in my life. 375 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: That's the good part of it. There are bad parts, however, 376 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: as you could imagine with that kind of system cranking 377 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: out kids with different concubines, having different wives, religion or 378 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 1: no cultural system or no. That's going to create a 379 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: system of jealousy, drama, and backstabbing. Who doesn't want to 380 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: be the mother of the next king, especially when you 381 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: consider what happens to the people who don't make the 382 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: top job Ottomans have a serious succession problem. And that 383 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: brothers they're essentially half brothers, because remember when a concubine 384 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: gives the king a son, he doesn't go to her 385 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: ever again. So in this case, we're going to talk 386 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: about a man named Salim. He was Memed, the second Memed, 387 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: the conqueror's grandson. His father was the Sultan. Salim's father 388 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: was the Sultan Memed the second son. You're going to 389 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: have brothers, cousins, nephews, so on and so forth, only 390 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: they're not necessarily brothers. You remember that harem that I 391 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: told you about, which is essentially a university. You're going 392 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: to get to know your brothers half brothers somewhat in 393 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: this scenario, but you are very much raised as an individual. 394 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: There's none of this, no hitting your brother. You hardly 395 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: see your brother, and there's a very good chance you're 396 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: going to kill your brother one day. Oh God on Nadim, 397 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: Holy side on me. Jesse Kelly, you're listening to the 398 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. I like the American flag and I 399 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: want it flying everywhere. I know you like it too, 400 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: But for me it's a little bit more. I hope 401 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: it is for you too. It's important for the future 402 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: of our country. If you were to ask me the 403 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: one thing I think we're missing most of all right 404 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: now in this country, I would probably tell you patriotism. 405 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: It seems like so many Americans don't like America and 406 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: we can't continue like that. 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It was tough if 414 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: you weren't the one who made it to the top 415 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: in the Ottoman empire, backstabbing, coup's deposing of the Sultans. 416 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: This was something that happened. You went from Memed the conqueror, 417 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: to the next guy. The next guy was Peaceful's probably 418 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: not the best way to put it. He wasn't peaceful, 419 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: but much more peaceful than Mehmed, a bureaucrat. He wanted 420 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: things quiet. The empire had expanded under Memed the second, 421 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: and he wanted things relatively quiet. Only he had a 422 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: son named Selene. It was his fourth son. Actually, it 423 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: was pretty typical for the oldest son to be the 424 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: one who was going to be sultan, but as you're 425 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: about to find out, sometimes it didn't work out that way. 426 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: Salim is a fierce child. Remember his mother was a slave, 427 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: a Christian slave. I'm sure she probably was forced to convert, 428 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: but a Christian slave in the Harem. She takes over 429 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: his education, she takes over his training. He is a 430 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: fierce young man. To put it mildly, he's one of 431 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: those people from an early age, always in a fight 432 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: with somebody. He lives for it. It's what he did. 433 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't think I want to call him quarrelsome but 434 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: the dude was just always down for the struggle. Now, 435 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: father does something with this son. You remember he has 436 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: to go be a governor, right, you have to train 437 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: this boy. Well, there's always a political game to be 438 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: played when it came to your sons and governors and 439 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: nobles and things like that. This is always the case, 440 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: and there really is no substitute for proximity when it 441 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: comes to power physical proximity. It's no different today either. 442 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 1: What I mean by that is you are the head 443 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: of the Ottoman Empire and you've got all your sons. 444 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: You're going to take the son you want to succeed you, 445 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: and you're going to put him at the closest place 446 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: you can possibly find and make him governor. There. He's 447 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: going to be plenty close enough. He's a day's ride away. 448 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: He's going to ride back and forth to the palace 449 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: because he's going to need to be making friends with 450 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: your friends and making connections. And this portant king is visiting, 451 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: and this important queen is visiting. Son, you're right there, 452 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: Come have a come have dinner with us tonight. That's 453 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: what you do with your favorite, what you do with 454 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: the one you're scared of, or your least favorite. Well, 455 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 1: you do what this Dad did to Salim. You send 456 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: him to the freaking hinterlands. You remember that map of Istanbul. 457 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: They sent Salim to the eastern side of the Black Sea, 458 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: which was the wilderness back then. And now we're going 459 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: to get to the part of the story where it 460 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: really depends on who you believe as far as how 461 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: he conducted himself in this part of the empire. Remember 462 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: I said, Dad is peaceful, wants things relatively peaceful. He's 463 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: a bureaucrat. Little taxation here, little rule here, little regulation there. Yeah, 464 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: you got to put down to tiny rebellion or two, 465 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: but that's life, No big deal. You think you've solved 466 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: a problem. If you're the father, you take your fierce son. 467 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: And also he's the fourth son, so he's clearly not 468 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: going to be sultan. And man, he loves to fight. 469 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 1: Let's put him out in the wilderness with the wilder 470 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: tribes and you think, man, who dodge that bullet? We 471 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: put him on ice. But what if he thrives there? 472 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: What if you putting him around people he can call enemies? 473 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: What if that's perfect for him? You see Salim gets there, 474 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: and Salim sees these tribes some under Ottoman rule completely, 475 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: some not under Ottoman rule at all. Many kind of 476 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: doing the half and half thing, not really under Ottoman 477 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: They'll send some troops though, if the Ottomans want them, 478 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: or if they won't send troops, they're going to at 479 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: least trade or allow trade through there. I we're not 480 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: part of you, but yeah, I mean, can you can 481 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: bring the camels through whatever? That's fine. So there's a 482 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: relationship already there between these tribes and the Ottoman Empire. 483 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: Only these tribes, many of them, are still wild and barbaric, 484 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: and they still do raids on things, raids on Ottomans. Only. 485 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: Young Salim is in charge now seventeen years old, highly educated, 486 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,959 Speaker 1: trained in the ways of war, and Salim he don't 487 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: put up with that crap. So Salim takes these men 488 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: his father wants to be friends with, and he starts 489 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: killing them, and he starts raiding their villages and kidnapping 490 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: their people. He starts running things and getting the area 491 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: under control. That has a problem with that. Then the 492 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: Sun has a problem with Dad having a problem with that. 493 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: You need a gold ira. It is time for you 494 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: to have a gold ira. There's too much financial uncertainty 495 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 1: out there, and maybe that's not even the right word. 496 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 1: Maybe I need to use a different word, because there's 497 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: actually financial certainty. We know for a fact we are 498 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 1: going to have a market correction period, end of story, 499 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: because history tells us. So we don't know when it'll be. 500 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: It could be tonight, could be a month from now, 501 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: could be next year. But this market is going to correct. 502 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 1: When this market corrects, if you have all your money 503 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: in stocks and bonds, you're going to get wiped out. 504 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: Get a gold Ira from gold Alliance so you can diversify. 505 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: It's a five star, a plus rated company. They know 506 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: what they're doing. They'll take care of you. Go to 507 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: gold Alliance dot com slash jesse. That's gold Alliance dot 508 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: com slash jesse. Go there now you get up to 509 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars in free gold and silver coins. Salim 510 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: he has a little son as well. His son's name 511 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: is Suleiman, will one day be known as Suleiman the Magnificent. 512 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: Salim takes a little drive with his son, obviously not 513 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: in a car. We're doing the historical version of a 514 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: little drive. Drops his son off train. Well, son, I'll 515 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: see you again someday. Turns around and he doesn't ride 516 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: back to where he's governor. Salim's had about enough of 517 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: his dad scolding him about conquering and pushing people around. 518 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: Salim turns around and marches towards Constantinople. Salim is coming 519 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: for Dad, parks an army outside of the capital walls, 520 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: asks for a meeting with his father. Father grants him 521 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: a meeting, and Salim says, I think I'm gonna take 522 00:42:50,000 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: over now. Dad laughs at him. Not a good idea. 523 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Jesse Kelly show. This is the 524 00:43:45,480 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show that I really should have just walked away, 525 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: because Salim turned around and took it from him, deposed 526 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: his father, and interestingly enough, did not kill his father, 527 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 1: although his father died not long after this, but did 528 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: turn around promptly and murder all of his brothers. Again, 529 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: you didn't want to be the odd man out that 530 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: game of musical chairs. Brutal. Now, Salim went on to 531 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: do eight years of conquering eight years. His son, Suleiman 532 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: was scared to death of him, hated him. He was 533 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: an evil human being who were simply going to end 534 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 1: the story here because I'm going to pick it up 535 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: next week at some point, probably not going to be Monday, 536 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: and I want to do a habit of the two 537 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: part episodes. But understand this, at this point, under Salim 538 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: and then his son Suleiman the Magnificent, the Ottoman Empire 539 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: reached a level previously unheard of for any Muslim empire 540 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: at the time. They reached the highest heights, and Christian 541 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: Europe was scared to death of them. And it's part 542 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: of the reason you have a United States of America today. 543 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: It's part of the reason we were pushed the Europeans, 544 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: I should say, were pushed this direction. Now that pushing 545 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: is painful, isn't it. When I say pushed, Let's understand 546 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: what that means. We're talking the sacking of cities, death, famine, ugliness. 547 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: That's what I mean by being pushed. But oftentimes at 548 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: the end of hard things personally, business wise, career, you know, 549 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: as a as a nation, oftentimes, at the end of 550 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: really hard things, you'll find something better. Right right now, 551 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: it's an ass, doctor Jesse Friday. But much much, much 552 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: more importantly than that, it's the anniversary of nine to eleven. 553 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: We all know what happened on that day. The first 554 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: asked doctor Jesse. Question I had on my desk this 555 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: morning was where were you on nine to eleven. I'll 556 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: tell you that story in a second, but let's take 557 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: him in it and figure this out. What happened, why 558 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: it happened. We're not going to go into all the 559 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 1: details of nine to eleven, but just know this. When 560 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: you're the big boy on the block, you have enemies everywhere, 561 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: all the time, all the time. And that's okay. You 562 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: can't possibly be the big boy on the block without 563 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: making enemies. What's important for you, it is important, is 564 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: to show people there's a price to pay for hitting us. 565 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: And while I think we've made ten thousand mistakes in 566 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: our war on terror? How many have there been like 567 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: that since? Oh, we've had them and we'll have them again. 568 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: We haven't solved the problem, but we did show the 569 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 1: world probably not a good idea to try that. If 570 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: you try that, we're probably gonna kill you. We're probably 571 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: going to defund you, We're probably going to hunt you 572 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: down everywhere. And I just want you to know this. 573 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,399 Speaker 1: You don't see it all the time because it doesn't 574 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: get headlines, and a lot of that stuff is secret 575 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: what they do. But terrorists for almost twenty years now 576 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: around the globe. They've been petrified, running, hiding, staring at 577 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: the sky, trying to find drones because they know how 578 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: many of their friends have been incinerated. Listening at night 579 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: in case the Delta Force boys are about to come 580 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: knocking on the front door to take them away permanently. 581 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: Understand this. We did, okay, we made mistakes. Nations make mistakes. 582 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: We did, okay, we did get our revenge. As far 583 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: as as far as where I was, Here's where I was. 584 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: I was not one of these people who joined the 585 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: Marine Corps after nine to eleven. I was already in 586 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: the Marine Corps. I was in the Marine Corps. We 587 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: were stationed in twenty nine Palms. We were doing pt PT. 588 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,800 Speaker 1: It's just physical training. It's exercise. It's exactly what you 589 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: picture in the movies, only it can be a lot 590 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: more miserable than that sometimes depending on how sadistic they 591 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,800 Speaker 1: want to get. But in general, as a group. UPT 592 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: When I say as a group, that sounds general, because 593 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 1: it is. Sometimes your squad will go out, you'll do 594 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: squad PT. That's just roughly ten guys, all right. Sometimes 595 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: your platoon will go out that's thirty guys. Sometimes your 596 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: company that's one hundred. Sometimes you're a battalion that's a thousand. 597 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: We were out doing pt that morning, just running push ups, 598 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: sit ups, that kind of thing. We get back to 599 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 1: the barracks and we're finished and we're out there stretching. 600 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: Generally did a really good stretch when the thing was done, 601 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: finished stretching, and we're milling about, getting a plan for 602 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: the day, and word comes down, get up to your 603 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: barracks room. Now it's a very It was very odd. 604 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: In the Marine Corps, everything is laid out for you, 605 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: oftentimes days in advance. You know, we have this at 606 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,879 Speaker 1: this time, and this at that time, and this at 607 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: this time. You don't generally have an impromptu get up 608 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: to your room. So it was very odd. And we 609 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: book it up to the room and we all crowd 610 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 1: in a couple rooms because they say, turned on the news. 611 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: And we turned on the news and one of the 612 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: towers was sitting there with a big hole in it's 613 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,959 Speaker 1: smoking and we're listening and they said a plane flew 614 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: into it. Now you have to remember, at first we 615 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on. We had no idea. 616 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was some idiot. In fact, I said 617 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: it out loud. What idiot flew into the World Trade Center? 618 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: It was a pilot drunk? Was it a suicide? What? 619 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: What idiot did that? And then we watched live as 620 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,839 Speaker 1: the second plane flew into the towers, and we were 621 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: we were angry, but not outraged yet. We were there 622 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 1: were are two towers. Remember at first there were just 623 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,439 Speaker 1: two towers, and they just each had holes in them. 624 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: So it was a terrorist attack. We were mad. We 625 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: were sure some people had died, but not the end 626 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 1: of the world, and not necessarily unheard of a terrorist 627 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: attack on an airline. Okay, I'm sure they probably got 628 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 1: a couple of people in the building too, but again 629 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,760 Speaker 1: not not the end of the world. But we're still watching. 630 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: And then we watched as one of them fell, and 631 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: that was jaw dropping. And then the second one fell. 632 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: It was like something It was like something out of 633 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: a movie. It's what it's what. It seemed like. It 634 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,280 Speaker 1: was like something out of a movie. 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