1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. Happy Tuesday, everybody. 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fired for April six, a 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: day that I thought we would be talking about in 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: historical terms as crowning Gonzaga the greatest team in college 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: basketball history. We'll get to that shortly. I do want 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: to say at the outset, thank you guys for subscribing, 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: rating and reviewing. That's the way the podcast gets legs, 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: that's the way more people listen to it. So a 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: shout out from me to you. Thank you. Also, we 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: will be talking about Sam Donald finally traded by the 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Jets a little bit later in the podcast. I thought 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: it was a good move. A lot of people disagree. 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Jets fans are yelling at me. That's what they do. 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: Jets fans are clueless idiots, and I'm sorry to be 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: smirched and entire fan base. But that's the facts, and 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a little bit. But first 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: we gotta start with what almost felt like to me 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: a Rocky for a moment Umcazaga was Apollo Creed and 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: everybody's hyping them all. They're undefeated, and are they the 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: greatest team of all? Time. And you know, you just 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: had Jay Billis on the pod yesterday talking about our 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: is Gonzaga wanted right there with Indiana undefeated and UH 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: ninety two U C l A and the Great UNLV 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: and Duke and Kentucky and blah blah blah, and incomes 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Baylor as Ivan Drago and then just knocks them to 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: bleep out in the first five minutes. And that was 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: the game, Baylor Ace. I don't want to say a 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: stunning upset, because you guys know I called it. I 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: gave it out. I bet it heavily. It's weird when 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: you bet a game. We've got my in laws in town. 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: You guys follow me on the Graham you know that. Um, 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: we've all been vaccinated, so we're taking people in town. 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: My brother came, now, my wife's parents and and you know, 34 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking about in game betting during the game, and 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: my kids know what's going on. And then of course 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: the question comes up, say how much how much gambling 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: on these games? Well, yeah, it's a funny thing. So 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: I got a couple of player props and yeah, too 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: quickly trying to change the subject, but I was loaded 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: up on Baylor. I loved them plus five at the 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: outside it went down to four and a half. Felt 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: good about it. Easy winner. That ticket was cashed in 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: the first five minutes. I think it was nine to one, 44 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: and then Gonzaga cut it to ten at some point 45 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: and then they got it to nine and they had 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: a couple of chances and that was it. They never 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: really were able to pull off the upset. And you know, listen, 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: this was an awkward season for sure, with the COVID 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: pause and they bubbled up tournament and you know, no travel. 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: But it came down to the two best teams Baylor 51 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: Gonzaga what everybody wanted. And it's weird because everybody wanted it. 52 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: And it was a destruction. I mean, it left you 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: asking questions like, wait, um, if Baylor wasn't hit by COVID, 54 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: would they have run the table? Because there was a 55 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: moment if you guys remember in January and I know 56 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: nobody remembers paying attention to college hoops in January, Are 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: you crazy? NFL playoffs are happening, and the question was 58 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: Baylor and Gonzaga or the field And Baylor was that good? 59 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: Then they had COVID. Then they lose a couple of 60 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: games the defense was off kilter, and then they quickly 61 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: get it back and finish twenty eight and two with 62 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: a beat down of Gonzaga. I don't want to you 63 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: guys know what I'm about to say, but I don't 64 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: want it to come off the wrong way. And the 65 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: beauty of this you can't. This is another thing that 66 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: if you guys listen to my Saturday radio show, the 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: producer Gavin, who also works on this podcast, said, you know, Jay, 68 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: it's funny you will say stuff on the radio show 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: that I'm like, Wow, he really went there, but you 70 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: won't say it on social media. And I told him, like, yeah, 71 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: that's a real thing. Social media is black and white. 72 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: There's no gray area and one wrong word and you're 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: allegedly canceled and people come after you and whatever. Um. 74 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: You can provide context and discuss things like nuance on 75 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: a podcast or a radio show. So what I'm about 76 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: to talk about there is nuance involved. I just want 77 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: to prepare you for it. So Gonzaga looked incredible, destroying 78 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: the w c C all season again. I think they 79 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: had twenty seven straight games, winning by double digits, and 80 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: then they run into u C l A in the 81 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: final four and they don't play any defense and they 82 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: win an overtime on a thirty five foot bank job 83 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: by Sugs. Incredible game. And you know, you guys watched Timmy, 84 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: the big white guy for Baylor throughout the tournament, just 85 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: dominate everybody. Uh footwork, Like Kevin McHale, Corey kiss Burt, 86 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: who I had seen on mock drafts after I posted mine, 87 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: I had him going twenty three. I didn't think he 88 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: was a lottery pick. Everybody after I posted my moxid 89 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: you're crazy Kissbur on threes, Jay, this guy's the first 90 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: team All American. He's awesome. He's a lottery pick. He 91 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: might go top ten. And I watched Kissburg against U C. 92 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: L A. I'm like, against top tier athletes, he didn't 93 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: look great. And then against bail here, I mean he looked, 94 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: I don't want to say frightened, but he just wasn't 95 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: built for that moment. Baylor's got dogs, they got athletes, 96 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: they got great defensive players on the wing, and kiss 97 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Burt was two for seven from deep and he had 98 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: a couple of good looks. And I think what happens 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: with those good looks is you're so rushed the rest 100 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: of the game that when you get the open look, 101 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: you still rush it a little bit. And I thought 102 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: Kiss Burton Timmy just were completely outclassed by Baylor. And again, 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm not making this out to be a racial thing. 104 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm not making it out to be a they play 105 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: in a weak conference thing. I just don't think Kiss 106 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Burt and Timmy, as good as they look throughout the season, 107 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: are as awful as they were against Baylor, but they're 108 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: not as great as they were during the season, if 109 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: that makes any sense. Rob I'm trying to thread the 110 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: needle here, Like I think kiss Burt can be a pro. 111 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Can he be Duncan Robinson? Maybe? But like rob it's 112 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: tough when Corey Kissburg is like the number two or 113 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: three option against Baylor and then he goes to the 114 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: pros and he's definitely when he's on the court, gonna 115 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: be the fifth option. And it's another thing when Baylor 116 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: knows what's coming and they've got two incredible defenders in 117 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: Butler and Mitchell, and they say, we're gonna take away Kissburg, 118 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna take away Sugs and what else do you got? 119 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: And Timmy just got I mean, he got I don't 120 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: want to say rag dald in the lane, but you 121 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: know he's he's twelve and five, you know, with five turnovers. 122 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: Was not his best effort, clearly, and the big kid 123 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: Thomba who fouled out, and then Vital Vital had eight 124 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: offensive rebounds. He's like six five Timmy six ten. Like 125 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: Vital had that dog in him from the jump. I 126 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: think he had two offensive boards in the first possession. 127 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: You were like, oh boy, this could be a long night. 128 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: And you know, I do think Timmy can be a pro. 129 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he's a starter. I think 130 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: he's a pro. I think Suggs obviously is still gonna 131 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: go top five. But I do believe Rob that this 132 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: was a game where Butler, who's twenty years old, look 133 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: like a pro. And I mean, you know, he hit 134 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: four threes at one point. I think he was four 135 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: or four from deep, but just a great defensive player. 136 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Seven zero turnovers, Mitchell fIF six and five controlled the game. 137 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: Those guys are major studs. And the Katigue another transfer, 138 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: and that's another topic I'll talk about. But like, this 139 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: is just a ridiculously good Baylor team. Three starters were transfers, 140 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: and we talked about that with Ja Billis, We talked 141 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: about with that with fran Fachella. This is the route 142 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: you gotta go. You need guards, and you need transfers. 143 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: You need those veterans, those older two year old kids 144 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: who can go up against the young kids and dominate. 145 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what happened. Even off the bench, 146 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: the kid Flaggler, who again a transfer. He's still he's 147 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: a young guy from from Georgia. But this kid looked good. 148 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean he came off the benches overprop I posted 149 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: this on the ground was eight and a half points. 150 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: He had thirteen. He had eight the first half. So 151 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: Biller just beat them. That's what it was. It was 152 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: just a beat down. And take nothing away from Gonzaga, 153 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: but clearly they are not in the discussion four greatest 154 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: teams of all time, not with U n l V, 155 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: not with Kentucky. They are very, very, very good team. 156 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: If you look at the last decade, rob I would say, 157 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, going back to are they probably one of 158 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: the ten best teams in college hoops. Yes, they didn't 159 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: win the title, but that doesn't mean they're trash. You 160 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: can't be thirty one and oh winning all but two 161 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: games by double figures, and then you lose the title 162 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: game by sixteen, and you go from awesome to trash. 163 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: So I don't know, Rob, those are my takeaways from 164 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: you know what's kind of a letdown an anti climactic 165 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: game after just a ridiculously great Final four game between 166 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: U c l A and Gonzaga. Oh yeah, I think 167 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: underwhelming would be the word were used to describe last 168 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: night's title game. But I will push back a little 169 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: bit on this. And then you said that Gonzaga cannot 170 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: be considered one of the greatest teams of all time 171 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: because of the loss or not, that they should not 172 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: be eliminated because they still had a great season, and 173 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: I think they did have a great season, but shouldn't 174 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: Then we argue that Baylor should be one of the 175 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: greatest teams of all time because you don't have to 176 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: be undefeated to be considered one of the greatest teams 177 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: of all time. Like uh SB Nation and Slam magazine 178 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: pet collaboration that they put out I think before this 179 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: last season started, and of their top five teams that 180 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: they have listed, three of them weren't undefeated, and one 181 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: of the team's number eight. It was just unlv they 182 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: didn't even win the championship. Well, so it was the 183 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: team that had won like games and data, right, But Baylor. 184 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if you as impressive as Gonzaga's run has 185 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: been the last two years and they've only lost like 186 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: four games something like that, four or five, I want 187 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: to say Baylor's only lost eight. So it's not like 188 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: they happened the last two two years. Yes, yes, last 189 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: year they were twenty six and four. At one point 190 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: they were twenty four and one and looking like they 191 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: were going to win the title, and then they kind 192 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: of slumped at the end of the season. I don't 193 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: remember what happened, um, but twenty six and four and 194 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: then this year twenty eight and two. So my math 195 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: tells me that's like fifty two and four two and 196 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: six in the last two years or fifty four and six. Okay, 197 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: So so just by that logic, if you're gonna say 198 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: Gonzaga was one of the greatest teams ever and they 199 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: man handled them like it wasn't just that they beat them, 200 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, they want seventy one sixty seven. I mean 201 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: from the jump, they were all over them. They were 202 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: faster to them. They they're faster than them, They look 203 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: more skilled than them out there. In a lot of cases, 204 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: they made Gonzaga look like a j A J V team, 205 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, and I tweeted this out 206 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: after the game, and I wanted to get your opinion 207 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: on it. It reminded me so much of the Denver 208 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: Broncos Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl. This was the college basketball 209 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: equivalent of that, because with Denver and Peyton Manning, uh, 210 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, they were the team that was the team 211 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: that everybody was excited about. He had all these touchdowns, 212 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: all these records, They looked good while they did it. 213 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: They were blowing everybody out, playing the style of play 214 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: that everybody seemed to appreciate. And then there was Seattle 215 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: and they were more rough and tumble, physical, a lot 216 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: of great athletes. But you know they're not They're not 217 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: this team. They're not the Denver Broncos, Like they can't 218 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: compete with them. And then once they faced each other, 219 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: the same thing that happened last night with Gonzaga and Baylor. 220 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Like the athletic difference between the Seahawks 221 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: defense and and the Denver offense is just it's uncanny. 222 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: Like we we thought that Wes Welker would be able 223 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: to get open against Earl Thomas and Camp Chancellor and 224 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: he just can't. And and that's exactly what happened with Baylor, 225 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: I mean Baylor. And I'm glad you brought up the 226 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: Timmy part of it because I thought that was the 227 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: biggest this, you know, the biggest uh difference in the game. 228 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: You mentioned the twelve and five and then I'm glad 229 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: you pointing out the five turnovers because he looked just 230 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: completely physically outmatched under underneath underneath there. I mean he 231 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: was getting pushed off the block, watching him trying to 232 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: get permission position on the rebound and box out. It 233 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: looked like me trying to box out shack like like 234 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: these guys. He brought up a good point. But one 235 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: thing we haven't brought up, rob how much did they 236 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: get drained Saturday night going overtime against U c L. 237 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: Because I'll say this, I just looked this up because 238 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned the turnovers for Timmy against USC, a really 239 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: good defense with an NBA center and another guy six eleven. 240 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: Timmy had twenty three points and zero turnovers against u 241 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: C l A thirty eight minutes points, zero turnovers. Like again, 242 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: I'm not blaming it on the overtime game and getting 243 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: drained in a just an incredible game, But you just 244 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: said it like Timmy looks slow, he looked out match, 245 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: Was he drained? Like did the weight of an undefeated 246 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: season fall upon finally Gonzaga and and did that factory 247 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: in at all? Or was just just this was just 248 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: an ass kicking. I would lean towards the ass kicking 249 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: part for this reason. And it's not to say that 250 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: they weren't physically drained, and I think that that's that's fair. 251 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: You know, it was one of the most I think 252 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: it was the greatest game I've ever seen played in college. 253 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, just start to finish the shot making, the 254 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: back and forth. It was great. But watching them, it 255 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: didn't look so much that he was physically drained. Now 256 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: out there, it looked like he was physically outmatched. Now 257 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: he's listed, I want to say, it's listen to two 258 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: thirty five thirty five, which means he's probably he's six 259 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: eight to something like that, closer to that. Uh thamba sive, 260 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: So you know he's bigger, he's thicker than him Vital 261 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: who looks like a five. Remember I mentioned that the 262 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: u c l A Center was a fire hydrant five 263 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: to fifty in your programs, which means when a guy's 264 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: listed like that, he's like six three, you know they're 265 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: trying to slim him down. They go the other way, 266 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: you know, when his guys that heavy, and so that 267 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: there's a reason why he was just getting pushed around 268 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: in the paint and that's something that is going to 269 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: hurt him at the next level because he's not a 270 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: great athlete. He's not a high flyer. He's very highly skilled. 271 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: But you you're, you know, being that skilled and not 272 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: having the athleticism to go with it only takes you 273 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: so far. I mean, unless you're Luka don Che, I 274 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: don't know how you're successful, you're gonna be not being 275 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: able to to have any level of equal footing athletically 276 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: with you guys are going against um. One other thought 277 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: that cross my mine, and I saw somebody put this 278 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: out on social media that, oh, Gonzaga they're the new 279 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors when they went seventy three and nine 280 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: and everybody had them crowned his chance and they lose 281 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: in Game seven to the Calves, and I'm like, I 282 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: can't buy that, Rob because and and even to a 283 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: little bit of an extent, your Seahawks Broncos analogy, like 284 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: a little bit falls short for me, because I think 285 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: this is what makes March Madness so incredible is that 286 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: before the tournament, you c l A had was like 287 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: on the bubble. Practically they were right, they were on 288 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: the bubble. They were in the playing game. And how's 289 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: you cel in playing a game? Well, their body of 290 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: work was season was not incredible. But in the tournament, 291 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: anybody can get hot. Anything can happen. The Swings of 292 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: Illinois they look like the second or third best team 293 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: in the country. They're right there with Baloza and they 294 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: get knocked out in the second round by Loyola. Ohio 295 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: State went to the Big Ten Championship. They're loaded. They 296 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: get knocked out in the first round by Chucks. I 297 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: forgot who Oral Roberts. Two losers to a fifteen Like 298 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: this is these are the brakes, which we've seen this 299 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL a little bit. And the Patriots were 300 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: undefeated and they go as big favorites against the Giants 301 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl and lay an egg. Now, they 302 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: didn't get their butts kicked like this, and the Warriors 303 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: also didn't get their butts kicked. However, that's the part 304 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: of your analogy that does line up the Broncos. I 305 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: think they had a safety on the first play of 306 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: the game, right, that is correct, and from there it 307 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: was like boom done, like they never were in the game. 308 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: I think it was twenty two nothing at halftime or 309 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: something like this kind of had the same vibe too. 310 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: I just I do wonder if they just played a 311 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: regular season game when there wasn't a Thursday night overtime 312 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: game right before it in uh No fans or whatever 313 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: small amount of answer were like, is this a closer 314 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: game like they were supposed to have in December? I don't. 315 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Vegas odds makers had this at five 316 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: or four and a half. Nobody on planet Earth outside 317 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: of one guy who listened to this podcast, a tudd 318 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: uh Tony. I'm sure you saw his tweet. Rob He's like, 319 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: I called this, and he showed his tweet from like Saturday. 320 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: He said Baylor wins by twelve. And I don't know 321 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: anyone else on planet Earth who thought Baylor wins Is 322 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: by double digits, Like did you like? I don't think 323 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: that was on anybody's radar. No, I expected history to 324 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: be made. And because you know, I bought into the hype. 325 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: I I listened to you guys like you and j Billis, 326 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: and you guys got me all hyped up. This was 327 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: the greatest team of all times. I'm ready to argue 328 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: with the bunch of old fogies that you know, this 329 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: team is better than the Duke team, and they're better 330 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: than you and l V and they're better than old 331 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: Kentucky teams. And then this happens. So now you know, 332 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: millennials such as myself look stupid because now we trying 333 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: to argue that Gonzaga could hang with those guys. The 334 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: offensive rebounds sixteen to five and they don't really have 335 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean Vital, who's six five the fire hydrant dude 336 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: eight offensive rebounds. That's more than all of Gonzaga. Now 337 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: was that tired legs from Gonzaga because Vital didn't play 338 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: much in the semifinal I think like sixteen minutes or something, 339 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: and Gonzaga, I don't know, they're starting lineup Timmy zero 340 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: offensive boards kissper zero like they didn't their legs on 341 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: their threes five or seventeen. It's one of the best 342 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: three point shooting teams out there. Like, I don't I'm 343 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: not making excuses for Gonzaga. Baylor was better if they 344 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: played a seven game series. I mean, based on what 345 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: we saw tonight, I think as Baylor would would probably 346 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: win four two. Um, but that's not the tournament. The 347 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 1: tournament is one game and the Haven off night and 348 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: you you have the potential to get smoked. Now. Um, 349 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: I think this really ends the college basketball season badly. 350 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: Given the tournament was fun and there was I think 351 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: two buzzer beaters one against u c l A that 352 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: sent the game to overtime and Alabama ended up losing, 353 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: and then of course Sugs. But like this game never 354 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: within eight in the final thirty eight minutes is a 355 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: tough sell for Like, that was awesome, like one shining moment. 356 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: I was waiting for it, you know, and I sat 357 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: there like a nerd getting all geeked out about it, 358 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: and my mom my wife is looking at me literally 359 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: laughing like I want to lose with this guy is 360 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I just I like it. Um, did 361 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: you watch one shining moment, Rob I did, and you 362 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: know my first thought, and I'm sure most of America 363 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: didn't notice it, but because I work in audio production, 364 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: I thought that's whoever put it together. There was something 365 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: wrong with the audio levels. Oh, I thought that that 366 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: was it? Was it? Luther's things are right? Uh looser? Maybe? Yeah, 367 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: there's a couple of people who have sung in. I 368 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: don't know which one they use. Yeah. Well, whatever the 369 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: singing came in was was way too low and the 370 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: play by plays were way too high, and so you know, 371 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: it didn't sound very good to know. I will also 372 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: say one finding moment is one shining moment. I'm sorry. 373 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: It is very exciting for me. I love it. I 374 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: recorded it. I'll probably watch it again tomorrow if I 375 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: don't look at it on YouTube. But it is a 376 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: melancholy moment because the end of March madness. You guys know, 377 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: for me, my two favorite months in the sports here 378 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: are November because of the NFL start of college football, 379 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: not to start a college football started, college hoops, college 380 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 1: football games that matter, and the NBA's underway. You know, 381 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: four sports that I love the most. Maybe you get 382 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: a World Series game in there if you're lucky. Second 383 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: favorite month is March for the tournament. To me, it's 384 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: a clear number two. And then after that there's a 385 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: considerable drop off, and we're about to hit the considerable 386 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: drop off zone. You know, I know some people are 387 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: excited for the Masters this weekend. We're what's your master's 388 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: level interest? Rob uh No, Tiger Tiger. We don't even 389 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: know if you can walk right now? Yeah, I mean, 390 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know who the favorite is. Um Destin Johns. Okay, yeah, 391 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: so Paulina Gretzky in her Instagram will be the highlight 392 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: of the Master's weekend. For me, I'm not I'm not 393 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: a massive golf guy. I probably need to get into 394 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: it more. My kids have played a little bit. Um. 395 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: I actually have a potential golf investment on the horizon. Um, 396 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: that's just something rich people say. Yeah. No, no, I'm 397 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: not having an investment. I am a renter right now, 398 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: so we we don't need to go down that road currently. 399 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: You know who you know my neighbors are. It's a 400 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: lady named Victoria and a family with six kids. My 401 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: neighbors green in the neighborhood. But also, you have a 402 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: brand new vehicle you just bought. Congratulations, it's a couple 403 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: of months old. I'm driving a two thousand eight Sedan 404 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: with hundred thousand miles on it, So like that's how 405 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: I roll renting incident, I'd rather invest with high upside 406 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: potential at any rate. Like at the end of the tournament, 407 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: I just I'm like, okay, one of the NBA playoffs starting. 408 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: And then I started looking at NBA scores last night 409 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: before I went to bed, and I was like, Okay, 410 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: the Mavericks are surging. Um, when's Lebron back? What am 411 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: I gonna do now? Like the tournament really consumes me 412 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: significantly for March. And I know baseball started and everybody's 413 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: excited about the first week of baseball. I get that 414 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: that's cool. The stadium in Texas was full, but I 415 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: just there is such a drop off from March madness 416 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: for me in sports. So we're gonna we got some 417 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: good guests lined up this month, and I have a 418 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: couple of interesting ideas that we will put forth this 419 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: month to keep the level of excitement popping post March madness. 420 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: But for now, I mean, listen, the NFL Draft. It 421 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: is probably the next big thing for me. That's in 422 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: a month, and um, that's a perfect segue to end 423 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: the college basketball season and segue into the NFL. Because 424 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: it's time to talk about Sam Donald. Fox Sports Radio 425 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 426 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com 427 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: and within the I Heart Radio app search f s 428 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: R to listen live. Al Right, the other big story 429 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: in sports Monday, besides college basketball and the Natty was 430 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: my guy, Sam Donald finally got traded. He is going 431 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: to Carolina. He actually got more for the Jets in 432 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: return than I thought they would get. Uh. They get 433 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: a sixth round pick this year and then a two 434 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: and a four next year. That's not a bad haul. 435 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: It's not quite what the Eagles got in return for 436 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, who got a two and a three. But 437 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: the two is conditional. Nevertheless, Uh, you know, I do 438 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: need to talk briefly about Sam Donald the Jets, and 439 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: I was leading the charge when the Jets got lucky 440 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: and we're able to land Donald in the draft in 441 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: twenty what was it, Yeah, they get Donald because the 442 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: New York Giants decided to take se Kwon Barkley second 443 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: and the Jets got what I thought was the best 444 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft. I was not a believer in 445 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I was not a believer in Josh Allen 446 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: or Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson to the level. I was 447 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: all in on Sam Donald and folks. As a long 448 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: suffering Jets fan. Yes, I tell the story every single 449 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: fall without fail my kids. I buy them jet skier 450 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: and they say, I don't want to wear it. The 451 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: Jets stink, Dad, Why do you root for them? They 452 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: lose all the time. I mean, my kids have only 453 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: known the Jets as a dumpster fire. My young son 454 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: was like two when the Jets were in the a 455 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: f C title game against UM. I think it was 456 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: a Colt's maybe or Pittsburgh, one of those two. But 457 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,239 Speaker 1: he was a young guy. He doesn't really remember that. 458 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: And since then the Jets have been crap. They have 459 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: made the playoffs since that Pittsburgh ANFC title game which 460 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: I can recount the entire fourth quarter where the Jets 461 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: are storming back from a massive deficit and all they 462 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: needed was one sty up and I was confident Sanchez 463 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: could get them down the field against what seemed like 464 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: a tired Pittsburgh defense. In alas Ben Roethlisberger in that offense. 465 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: They got like three first downs on the final drive, 466 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: and um, it was Curtains. And the Jets haven't been 467 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: the same since they tried Ryan Fitzpatrick and it's just 468 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: been it's been garbage. And I thought Donald was gonna 469 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: change that. The problem is they paired him after they 470 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: fired Todd Bowles with Adam Gaze. And you know, I 471 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: fell for the Adam Gaye stick and why And people 472 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: ask me this so often because I get killed on 473 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: social media. Oh, you liked Adam Gaze. Well, yeah, no, shitt, 474 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: I liked Adam Gaze. Peyton Manning, one of the greatest 475 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in NFL history, comes out and says, Adam Gage 476 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: is a great coach. He helped me throw fifty five 477 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: touchdown passes. You know pretty clearly Adam Gaze didn't help 478 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: Peyton for squat in Denver, and Adam Gaye comes out 479 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: he was okay in Miami as a head coach. The 480 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: problem is the locker room hated him, and I didn't 481 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: realize that because they had won and he got them 482 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Even though the starter Tannehill had gotten hurt, 483 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: Gays was able to get them. By the way, Tannehill 484 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: at his best year in Miami with Gays um they 485 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: I think it was Matt Moore got to the playoffs 486 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: and they lose to Pittsburgh, but you got two playoffs. 487 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: But what I was unaware of was behind the scenes 488 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: in Miami, Gaye was awful in the locker room, and 489 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: none of that had really come out. There was some 490 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: bubbling up of it, but I was blinded by Peyton. 491 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: Manning gave him the stamp of approval, and so Gays. 492 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget his first game against Buffalo, the 493 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: season opener. They're leading Buffalo sixteen nothing, and I'm like, oh, yeah, 494 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: we're going to the playoffs sixteen nothing, And I'll never 495 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: forget this. C J. Moseley, the Jets linebacker who they 496 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: had just signed from Baltimore, was having a great game. 497 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: He gets injured in like the third or fourth quarter 498 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: and the Jets defense could not get a stop the 499 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: rest of the way. The Bill score seventeen straight win, 500 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: seventeen sixty, just a gut punch for the Jets, and 501 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: then the injury start mounting. Gaze starts feuding with Levan 502 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: Bell and basically everyone else and the Jets are total garbage. 503 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: And a lot of people said, fire Gazes, you gotta 504 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: give another chance. You don't want to give Sam Donald 505 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: three coaches in three years. But in hindsight it might 506 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: have worked because Sam Donald never really had a fair 507 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: shake in New York. They tried, but there was too 508 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: much change around him. The GM who drafted Donald did 509 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: not last okay, and neither did Todd Bowls. So they 510 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: bring in Gaze, they bring in a new GM, all 511 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: this change in the front office swirling around like there's 512 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: just no way that anybody could be successful with that 513 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: much change. And then you look at the weapons, You're like, oh, well, 514 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: you know they got him Levan Bell a running back 515 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: and Levan Bell by the way, after that year off 516 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, gosh, he looked terrible. And I don't want 517 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: to hear it was the Jets because then he goes 518 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: to k C and like basically did nothing. You know, 519 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't even know if he was active for the 520 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Um, I'd have to go back and check. 521 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: But bottom line, it just didn't work out for Donald. 522 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: Now I think he can thrive in Carolina. I do 523 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: think he can. Carolina has obviously a good running back 524 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: in McCaffrey. They lost Curtis Samuel, but they bring back 525 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson. They've got one of the best young offensive 526 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: coordinators in the league, and Joe Brady, who of course 527 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: was in l s U with Joe Burrow. They have 528 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: a eighth pick in the draft, which a lot of 529 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: people had, you know, Pegg to quarterback to go there. 530 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be the move now, you know, 531 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if Donald is long for Carolina, but 532 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: they picked up his fifth year option, so they're gonna 533 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: have him for two years. And remember this, Matt Rule 534 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: was nearly named the Jets coach. But then there was 535 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: that issue with Hey, I want to bring in my 536 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: staff and they were like, uh uh, you know you've 537 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: got a college background. We need to bring some professional 538 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: coaches as your assistants. And he's like, yeah, that's not 539 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: gonna work. So then the Jets had to settle for gays. 540 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: Joe Brady is a really good offensive coordinator. Matt Rule 541 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: clearly likes the cut of Sam Donald's jib because he 542 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: was ready to coach him in New York. And I 543 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: do believe this is gonna be a bet on team. 544 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: File this away. I'm gonna be doing a lot of 545 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: gambling stuff this summer for Fox as I did last summer, 546 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: and we correctly identified the teams you wanted to bet on. 547 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, this Carolina team is 548 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: going to be a bet on team. Okay, Teddy Bridgewater 549 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: was okay, early fizzled out and down the stretch they 550 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: were a train wreck. But that's fine because they got 551 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: a high draft pick, the weapons are in place, and 552 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: the defense started to improve late in the season. So 553 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm bullish on Carolina. I don't think they're a playoff team. 554 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: I think if everything shook out right there, there's a chance. 555 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, anything's possible. Every year somebody goes from the 556 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: seller um to to the playoffs. I think that's a thing. 557 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: Like nine of the last ten years someone's gone from 558 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: last place to the playoffs. And remember eight Drew Brees 559 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: is gone from the Saints. So we don't know what's 560 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: going on with Atlanta, like there is there are some 561 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: openings for Carolina. I think they'll be better. I think 562 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: they'll sniff five and I think Donald's got a really 563 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: good chance. And you know what, people are gonna say, oh, 564 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: the Jets are stupid. They gave up on Donald. No, no, no, no, 565 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: I want to nip this in the butt right now. 566 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: The Jets had to move on from Sam Donald. They 567 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: had to otherwise they would have had to pay him. 568 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: And then your your response to that is, well, if 569 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: he's good and they pay him, what's a big deal. Well, 570 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: that's a gigantic if. Okay, if you pay him. And 571 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: by the way, like I said, the GM did not, repeat, 572 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: did not draft Donald. The new coach, Robert s from 573 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: thet he had no input on the Donald decision. You've 574 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: now got a GM and a coach on the same page. 575 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: It's pretty clear they like Zack Wilson a lot and 576 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: he's going to be the guy. It's tough for any 577 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: quarterback to have his coach or his um sense say, 578 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: if you will, his guru who drafts him stick up 579 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: from in the locker, in the in the film room, 580 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: and in the front office. When he's like they say, 581 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: my guy, I'm not going down swinging with somebody else's guy. 582 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: And I do need to remind you Sam Donald has 583 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: been very bad in New York for three straight years. 584 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: As much as there's the upside, and hey, it was 585 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: great at USC remember that Penn State claime. Oh my gosh. Yeah, 586 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: that's all true. But the facts are also that Sam 587 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: Donald was the lowest rated quarterback in the NFL over 588 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: the last three years period, hard stop. He started thirty 589 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: eight games. There is a body of work that says, huh, 590 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Sam Donald makes a lot of bad mistakes, and sure 591 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: there is upside, but can you think of a game 592 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: where he elevated the play of everyone around him? I mean, folks, 593 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: he had twelve starts last year, and I know they 594 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: were very bad. He didn't have one fourth quarter comeback, 595 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: not one like that's really bad. Everybody every quarterback has 596 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: one game, two games where they make a comeback. Donald 597 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 1: had I think three the year prior. I didn't have 598 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: one last year. I mean, it was a fad to complete. 599 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 1: You know, the head coaches was was a dead man walking. 600 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: The Jets were essentially tanking. I mean, hell, Joe Flacco 601 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: is the one who cost them Trevor Lawrence with that win. 602 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. All I'll say is Sam 603 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: Donald's got a chance to be to be good in Carolina. 604 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say he's gonna be special. He's 605 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 1: gonna have a chance. Okay, he's gonna have a bit 606 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: of a chip on his shoulder, and yeah, I think 607 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: he'll do fine. The big question now for the Jets is, Okay, 608 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do with these draft picks, because 609 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that Zach Wilson's the guy and he's 610 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: gonna be the starter from day one, which I'm fine with. 611 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 1: The Mormon Mahomes, by the way, that's totally sticking. I 612 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: said it on the Herd I think a month ago, 613 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: and again I had heard it somewhere, but I wasn't 614 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: the originator of the Mormon mahomes. And now everybody loves Momon. 615 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: Mahomes is like his nickname. Somebody tried to sell me 616 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: on Zach's Fifth Avenue and I was like, no, not 617 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: very cool. The Mormon Mahomes is just money and you're 618 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: gonna need I had a buddy texting me who's a 619 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: hardcore Jets fan. We actually watched that Pittsburgh Jets AFC 620 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: title game together, um back in Pennsylvania, and he said, well, 621 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: we got to get a veteran. You know, Zack Wilson. 622 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't know a lot of these recent top ten 623 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: picks have you know not started. I mean Baker Mayfield 624 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: didn't start game one. Okay, Herbert last year did not 625 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: start to a did not start I know to it 626 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: was kind of injured. Um Lamar Jackson did not start. 627 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: Like a lot of these rookies don't come out of 628 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: the gate starting. It's just how it is. So the 629 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: idea of Zack Wilson not starting right now is off 630 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: the table. I don't believe Teddy Bridgewater is an option. 631 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: It sounds like he's gonna probably end up going to 632 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: Denver to compete with Drew lock. The new Broncos GM 633 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in Minnesota, was there when 634 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: they drafted Teddy Bridgewater. So it seems like Bridgewater will 635 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: be headed to Denver, which leaves perhaps Alex Smith as 636 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: an option in New York. Now. Alex Smith is a 637 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: really good story and he played well last year health wise. 638 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: I I don't know. Um listen, He's been around Mahomes, 639 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: which is interesting in Ksey and now Zach Wilson. Again, 640 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: I'm not comparing Zack Wilson to Patrick Mahomes. Obviously, some 641 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: of the characteristics and traits are similar. Uh, that's about 642 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: all of it's similar right now. Um, but yeah, I 643 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: think Alex Smith is certainly a veteran option for the Jets, 644 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: um because they're gonna need a veteran quarterback. But overall, listen, 645 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: the Sam Donald era started with oh my gosh, the 646 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: and fair was ridiculous, and it ended with a whimper. 647 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: And he's gone now. And I think he'll do well 648 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: in Carolina. I do. I do think that. And again, 649 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: when he does well in Carolina, don't say the Jets 650 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: were stopid at that gave up autom. No, No, that's 651 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: not how it works. It's just it's that's not how 652 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: it works. They had a thirty eight game sample size 653 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: thirty eight starts for Sam Donald, and then the GM 654 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: who did not draft him, said, you know what we're 655 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna move on. I'm gonna get my guy 656 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: in here. They got a new head coach, it's a 657 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: new direction for the Jets, So don't kill him. When 658 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: Donald does well, obviously, we'll be doing much much more 659 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: on the NFL draft. In a matter of fact, we 660 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: have a guest coming up this week, not draftwise, but 661 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: he wrote an NFL book that's coming out, and obviously 662 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna make waves. We will talk to him later 663 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: this week, and we'll talk to you tomorrow