Speaker 1: I welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: On the last episode, I talked about a New York
Speaker 1: Times article about a woman who falls in love with
Speaker 1: chat GPT. It's portrayed as this normal thing that she did.
Speaker 1: You just, you know, went ahead and fell in love
Speaker 1: with her AI, as if that was a sane or
Speaker 1: rational path. And I mentioned it on X also and
Speaker 1: was asked, why do you care? This is just a
Speaker 1: lonely person soothing herself. So let's start with why I
Speaker 1: do care it's in the New York Times. If I'm
Speaker 1: not meant to care, why is there a whole story
Speaker 1: on this? But I particularly care because I have kids
Speaker 1: growing up in this world where a major newspaper thinks
Speaker 1: a story about a woman basically talking to herself is
Speaker 1: just as acceptable a life as any other. I said
Speaker 1: this on the last episode. But it's the fact that
Speaker 1: this life option is presented as just another choice that
Speaker 1: I find so objectionable. This is a terrible choice. This
Speaker 1: is actually no life at all. Really is this a
Speaker 1: lonely woman just trying to feel better? Kind of The
Speaker 1: woman in the story is married, but for financial reasons,
Speaker 1: she lives apart from her husband. They're working towards getting
Speaker 1: back to the same place. Clearly, this isn't a well
Speaker 1: functioning person. So to add an AI love affair, which
Speaker 1: by the way, she's paying for at the end of
Speaker 1: the article with money, she does not have to add
Speaker 1: that to the mix. Can we just say no, this
Speaker 1: is bad, don't do this, and have that be enough.
Speaker 1: But even putting aside the coverage in the New York Times,
Speaker 1: because who knows what they cover at this point or
Speaker 1: why this woman needs to pretend to have a boyfriend
Speaker 1: who doesn't actually exist, The bigger picture for me is
Speaker 1: that so many people are living their lives completely online
Speaker 1: and not in real life, and this is really the
Speaker 1: ultimate version of that. At least most people are interacting
Speaker 1: with real people online, hopefully, but even still, that's a
Speaker 1: sad way to live. I work from home, and I
Speaker 1: always have, so I get the whole having an online
Speaker 1: life thing. I really do. There are days where that
Speaker 1: is the great majority of my human interaction, and I
Speaker 1: recognize that it's not great. I have my husband and
Speaker 1: my kids, but my primary friendships are all happening online,
Speaker 1: and again I realize it's bad. I work towards more
Speaker 1: in real life interactions and connections. But this AI thing
Speaker 1: is taking it to another level, and it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: normalized or treated as just another way to have a relationship.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 1: There's nobody at the other end of that relationship. So
Speaker 1: that's why I care. I care because I can see
Speaker 1: where this road leads and it's not anywhere good, and
Speaker 1: it's important to differentiate between good and bad and not
Speaker 1: allow it to be muddled. There are better and worse
Speaker 1: paths in life. Try to take the better one. Coming
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Speaker 1: three two five. Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio. My guest today is Julio Rosis. Julio is
Speaker 1: national correspondent for Blaze Media. Hi, Julio, so nice to
Speaker 1: have you on.
Speaker 2: Yeah for having it, Carol.
Speaker 3: So, this show is generally not about news of the day,
Speaker 3: and it's not about, you know, what's going on in
Speaker 3: our media. But it's sort of an interesting moment right now.
Speaker 3: You just got back from California covering the fires, and
Speaker 3: I did want to talk to you about what you
Speaker 3: saw there and what makes you go into disaster areas
Speaker 3: when I would personally run the other way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean it's a classic case. I mean
Speaker 2: obviously you see the destruction on TV, and I would
Speaker 2: and this this was my first wildfire coverage because you know,
Speaker 2: I've done hurricanes, I've done you know, the flooding like
Speaker 2: after North Carolina a couple of months ago, and obviously
Speaker 2: this was this was very different because even even before
Speaker 2: leaving the airport, the smoke is so bad, the air
Speaker 2: quality is so bad in Los Angeles right now. Is
Speaker 2: that I started getting a headache from the smoke even
Speaker 2: before leaving the airport, and so that was obviously to
Speaker 2: be expected. But once you're dealing with that for a
Speaker 2: couple of days, it gets, it gets kind of it
Speaker 2: gets annoying. It's kind of like a it's almost as
Speaker 2: if the smoke is in your head.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had a friend, Anthony Cobasas, who is also a reporter.
Speaker 2: He described it feeling the same way. So in terms
Speaker 2: of in terms of why I like to to cover
Speaker 2: these things, the answer is, I don't really know. Outside
Speaker 2: of the side, I would say it's two things. One,
Speaker 2: it's it. It's important obviously because whenever there is chaos,
Speaker 2: whether whether it is riots, whether it's natural disasters or
Speaker 2: you know, stuff that's like happening at the border and
Speaker 2: things relate to that. As we've seen, right, the discourse
Speaker 2: gets very out of control very fast. And being able
Speaker 2: to one be there see it for myself, so that
Speaker 2: gives me some credibility to talk about it, right because
Speaker 2: I'm not just somebody behind the computer right mouthing off.
Speaker 2: But also it's not anything wrong with that.
Speaker 4: Now that there's anything wrong with that, right, I know
Speaker 4: that that's half of our industry, So I have to
Speaker 4: have to be careful, but also just so being able
Speaker 4: to see it for myself and then also able to
Speaker 4: document it accurately and actually get a feel for on
Speaker 4: the ground, talking to people and people that are being
Speaker 4: affected by that.
Speaker 2: Is very important to capture so that the rest of
Speaker 2: the country kind of has a better understanding of what's
Speaker 2: going on. And that's applicable to basically almost any story
Speaker 2: chaotic thing. And the other thing is is that it
Speaker 2: is exciting and and I'm I've said this before, but
Speaker 2: I never considered myself to be an adrenaline junkie of
Speaker 2: any kind. I don't like roller coasters. I still don't
Speaker 2: like roller coasters. I don't whenever the you know, a
Speaker 2: plane gets turbulence, which I'm on a lot of planes
Speaker 2: these days. Right, So whenever playing gets urmulents, I don't
Speaker 2: I don't like that feeling in my stomach. That's really
Speaker 2: the big thing. Uh. And so but whenever it's in
Speaker 2: not a situation that I can I want to say
Speaker 2: that I can control, because obviously by nature like this
Speaker 2: is very out of control and whatever, whatever the situation is.
Speaker 2: But when being able to kind of navigate it, and
Speaker 2: like I said, also having like a mission behind it,
Speaker 2: I find a lot of satisfaction in being able to
Speaker 2: go out and kind of like complete a mission in
Speaker 2: a sense and in a way, so it's those two
Speaker 2: it's like combining those two things, right, So it's like
Speaker 2: the passion while also getting paid for it is a
Speaker 2: pretty nice gig, right, you know, being able to do
Speaker 2: what I like to do as a job. And so
Speaker 2: that's that's kind of why. And also I guess it
Speaker 2: would be kind of like job security because like as
Speaker 2: you said, of people wouldn't want to go at first
Speaker 2: at first of these things, and so kind of being
Speaker 2: the guy that always raises his hand and saying, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, I'll take one for the team. And you know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that go into it right,
Speaker 2: and like, for example, because when the fires really started
Speaker 2: raging on that Tuesday, I just got back from DC.
Speaker 2: I was helping Blaze cover you know, January sixth, and
Speaker 2: all that and all that entailed, and I told my
Speaker 2: mom that I was leaving it. And because my mom
Speaker 2: takes care of my dog that I rescued, because she
Speaker 2: lives close by, obviously, whenever I leave, I have to
Speaker 2: give her heads up that, like, hey, you're gonna to
Speaker 2: take care of Bella for the first time. And she
Speaker 2: tells me, no, don't go, Like I feel like if
Speaker 2: you go, things are going to be out of control.
Speaker 2: It's going to be chaotic there. And I just looked
Speaker 2: at her and I was like, you know, what's what
Speaker 2: I do. Like, if you're trying to convince me to
Speaker 2: not go, that was the wrong thing to say. And
Speaker 2: so she finally was like okay. And so I would say,
Speaker 2: definitely having the gas ask, which I got a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago for the riots with the tear guys
Speaker 2: like that actually came in handy a lot, as you
Speaker 2: can imagine. So yeah, I mean, it was it was
Speaker 2: it was it was seeing that sort because she used
Speaker 2: to live in Burbank prior to living in Florida. So
Speaker 2: actually after I started my career in journalism, I was
Speaker 2: actually out there a lot because before we never went
Speaker 2: to Los Angeles and so kind of seeing the you know,
Speaker 2: being in those areas that that we would visit, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's like Malibu or Santa Monica and
Speaker 2: seeing the state that it's in, I mean, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it is jarring, it is.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is sad because as much as I like
Speaker 2: the rag on California, you know, yeah, but I love California.
Speaker 3: That's a beautiful state. It would be so much better, you.
Speaker 2: Know, right, And that's the thing. Like, so I as
Speaker 2: someone who spent a lot of time there, I understand
Speaker 2: how much better it can be, and and I do
Speaker 2: appreciate the things that that are still good there, which
Speaker 2: there are quite a few things, right, And I finally
Speaker 2: understood because I want to Pacific Palisades and seeing the
Speaker 2: destruction there and even in its state that it's currently in. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: I can understand why people who have grown up, their
Speaker 2: their whole lives aren't just gonna automatically move to a
Speaker 2: red state like Texas are afforded because like that area
Speaker 2: is still nice.
Speaker 1: So nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what do your parents think about what you
Speaker 3: do in general? Do they? I mean, I'm sure they're
Speaker 3: proud of you, but they can't love you head you know,
Speaker 3: because I was going to say, actually, in another era,
Speaker 3: you'd probably be a war correspondent, but you actually are
Speaker 3: a war correspondent. You do go into war zones, you
Speaker 3: go into all of these things, you go into riots,
Speaker 3: you go into you know, natural disasters, and you have
Speaker 3: been in war zones. So what do they think. Are
Speaker 3: they like, can you please not? Or are they like,
Speaker 3: go ahead and do it. This is you know, what
Speaker 3: you were born to do.
Speaker 2: No, I have my parents are very supportive of what
Speaker 2: I do. Obviously, they do have concerns, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: depending on the situation. I would say, when again, when
Speaker 2: I was talking to my mom before I loved, she
Speaker 2: definitely had more of a concern than usual because this
Speaker 2: was definitely a much because it was also just a
Speaker 2: new situation, right, it was a new situation because she's
Speaker 2: she is used to me being in right, she is
Speaker 2: used to me being in in uh, you know, like
Speaker 2: when I was in Israel after October seventh. So but
Speaker 2: but they but they also understand that this is what
Speaker 2: I want to do, right and and there, and like
Speaker 2: I said, they're they're very supportive in that, and so
Speaker 2: I do check in with them a lot whenever whenever
Speaker 2: I do go, and especially my mom, because you know,
Speaker 2: I was kind of telling her how how things were
Speaker 2: and how and and kind of getting her reaction to
Speaker 2: to seeing because even though she she obviously grew to
Speaker 2: dislike California with it with its politics after COVID and
Speaker 2: then all that, you know, she's against New sum and
Speaker 2: then in the recall campaign, so she did, she did
Speaker 2: try her She did try her best when she lived there,
Speaker 2: but she did, you know, she did get very emotional
Speaker 2: because she did spend a lot of time there, right,
Speaker 2: I mean she lived there for seven and eight years,
Speaker 2: and we actually lived briefly when I was very little
Speaker 2: in California even prior to that.
Speaker 5: So so she she was, you know, pretty upset seeing everything,
Speaker 5: as as a lot of people are obviously, Oh, it's nice, right,
Speaker 5: It's nice to have that that support, and it is
Speaker 5: also kind of like a good I would say good.
Speaker 2: Kind of like a control rod and a nuclear reactor,
Speaker 2: where obviously for me, I just want to you know
Speaker 2: at the first time, I think, I just I just
Speaker 2: want to go, right, Like I just just want to
Speaker 2: go and and and you know, maybe I don't think
Speaker 2: about all of the all of the dangers that kind
Speaker 2: of kind of go along sid So whenever I check
Speaker 2: in with my parents, they kind of like, Okay, well
Speaker 2: did you think about this? Do you think about that?
Speaker 2: Like what are your plans for this? So it's kind
Speaker 2: of a good it's kind of a good regulator almost
Speaker 2: right to to to just my my natural instinct to
Speaker 2: go out and head into to the craziness. So and
Speaker 2: also now having to take care of a dog isn't
Speaker 2: good because as much as I wouldn want to be
Speaker 2: out there for as long as possible, you get very shed.
Speaker 2: My mom tells me she gets very very sad and
Speaker 2: depressed whenever I'm going for extented period. So it's it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: so I have to leave, right.
Speaker 3: Did you always want to do this? Did you always
Speaker 3: want to be a reporter?
Speaker 2: No? So I didn't. I didn't know what I wanted
Speaker 2: to do when I was in after after high school,
Speaker 2: because I knew I wanted to be in the Marines,
Speaker 2: but in the Marine reserves. So that's a part time thing.
Speaker 2: It's that full time. So I knew I had to
Speaker 2: obviously have a career outside of that while while I
Speaker 2: was doing the part time thing, and so I took
Speaker 2: a journalism This is like my only formal education was
Speaker 2: a journalism class for one semester in high school. Right,
Speaker 2: So it's very very it's very basic. It's obviously not
Speaker 2: super in depth, and I didn't like it. But even
Speaker 2: at that time, I didn't know what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2: But then after I got involved into politics, right before
Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen election, I got into writing, and that
Speaker 2: was just by happenstance. And so after I covered the
Speaker 2: protests at the RNC and the DNC in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: which people forget the DNC was actually had a lot
Speaker 2: more protests because all the Bernie bros. Were still upset
Speaker 2: that Hillary kind of you know, sold the nomination with
Speaker 2: the serial delegates, So there were a lot of protests there,
Speaker 2: and so combining that with Twitter, you know, then Twitter,
Speaker 2: that's kind of when I realized, oh, I like being
Speaker 2: out in the field and using social media to give
Speaker 2: live updates. So that's kind of how I So when
Speaker 2: I moved out to d C after Trump won in
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. That's when I really and I covered Charlottesville
Speaker 2: because I was like shortly after. That's when it really
Speaker 2: clicked for me. It's like, Okay, whenever there's an opportunity
Speaker 2: for something like this, this is where I want to
Speaker 2: be and this is the type of journalism that I
Speaker 2: want to do.
Speaker 3: What would you be doing if it wasn't this, like
Speaker 3: motorcycle racing, adrenaline junk, Well, yeah, no, motorcycle racing.
Speaker 2: No I yeah, I don't. I don't like to ride motorcycles,
Speaker 2: especially in southern Florida. So no, I don't. I don't know, honestly,
Speaker 2: I really don't. And that's actually something my parents want
Speaker 2: me to think about often, well just in the sense
Speaker 2: of and I guess this kind of speaks to not
Speaker 2: not to get ahead but with with but the because
Speaker 2: my one of my issues is that i'm too I
Speaker 2: can get hyper focused on an issue, on something, and
Speaker 2: so that if that's all I think about, and that's
Speaker 2: all I focus on, obviously there's you know, there's more
Speaker 2: to life than just being in the field. And so
Speaker 2: when I was in d C that that was especially true,
Speaker 2: and that was because a lot of things were happening,
Speaker 2: especially in twenty twenty, but I kind of let other
Speaker 2: things kind of fall to the wayside. And so moving
Speaker 2: to Florida was kind of an answer to that, because
Speaker 2: when you're sucked into d C, obviously that's that's that's
Speaker 2: the city, right, the city around these news cycles and
Speaker 2: the politics and everything. So being able to kind of
Speaker 2: just remove myself from that environment, obviously still working in
Speaker 2: the industry, but remove myself from the environment to allow
Speaker 2: myself to kind of take pause, take a breath, and
Speaker 2: enjoy other aspects. But no, so the answer question, I
Speaker 2: have no idea. I mean, I was I was when
Speaker 2: I when I was in college because I dropped out.
Speaker 2: I was doing business administration. So I'm not entirely sure,
Speaker 2: you know, because again that's very general, So I'm not
Speaker 2: entirely sure what what I would do with that. Maybe
Speaker 2: I was saying I was, I was probably thinking leaning
Speaker 2: towards something like marketing, because again that's like or like communications, right,
Speaker 2: so you know, communicating with the outside world, even though
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Speaker 3: So you go into these very tense situations, you go
Speaker 3: into natural disasters and all the rest. What worries you,
Speaker 3: what's your biggest worry about? Just anything really, but you know,
Speaker 3: you get to see all of this up close, it
Speaker 3: has to affect you.
Speaker 2: It does at a certain point because you know, you try,
Speaker 2: you try, you try not to get to you because yeah,
Speaker 2: because when you when you're in the situations and you're
Speaker 2: in again. That's why helps having that mission with with
Speaker 2: like reporting because you know you do you don't want
Speaker 2: it to be you know, you don't want to like
Speaker 2: make it about you obviously because you know, unless it's
Speaker 2: in your area, you're just visiting until you kind of
Speaker 2: always have to keep that in mind. But so having
Speaker 2: that mission and having that that responsibility to focus again,
Speaker 2: to focus and to get the word out on what's on,
Speaker 2: what's going on. But yeah, after a while, it does,
Speaker 2: it does kind of weigh on you. And a good
Speaker 2: example outside of the riots was actually the border crisis,
Speaker 2: because when everything first started in twenty twenty one, it
Speaker 2: was obviously a very much a border issue at the
Speaker 2: beginning because they were the first being impacted. People were
Speaker 2: just starting to arrive. Yes, even though they were being
Speaker 2: sent out into the United States for that year, the
Speaker 2: numbers hadn't reached critical mass yet, and that didn't happen
Speaker 2: until late or until like mid twenty twenty three, basically
Speaker 2: like a two year period where you know, I'm kind
Speaker 2: of you know, I'm raising any alarm about it, there's
Speaker 2: other people raising any alarm about it, and sure, obviously
Speaker 2: Republicans were too, but understandably it still was kind of
Speaker 2: a far away issue. It wasn't like the school board issue,
Speaker 2: like in loud and counting, right, because obviously, oh, like
Speaker 2: that's my kids school board, and then people are looking
Speaker 2: at their other stuff, and so it's whenever I whenever
Speaker 2: I leave, I have to kind of not obviously completely
Speaker 2: forget about it, but I can't dwell on it because
Speaker 2: especially with an issue like that, it's such a huge issue.
Speaker 2: It's a year's long issue. Obviously got worse because of
Speaker 2: the Biden Harris administration, and obviously now it's it's it's
Speaker 2: almost incomprehensible about how big of an issue it has become.
Speaker 2: And now it's I'll.
Speaker 3: Tell you that. My my a political sister in law,
Speaker 3: like a month or two ago, was like, do you
Speaker 3: know what's going on at the border? And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I do. I do know what's going on.
Speaker 2: It's like Internet Explorer. That's explorer, but.
Speaker 3: Telling you it has it has jumped to you know,
Speaker 3: people who just don't follow the news. She's very smart,
Speaker 3: you know, she just has a different you know, different
Speaker 3: different things that she follows.
Speaker 2: She's a normal person, normal person.
Speaker 3: Exactly normal people now know about the border.
Speaker 2: So so yeah, so it's so whenever I leave, I
Speaker 2: kind of have to forget about the more horrific aspects
Speaker 2: of it, because if you do just sit on it
Speaker 2: and dwell on it, it will drive you crazy because
Speaker 2: it's like, this is a problem. Why isn't it being solved?
Speaker 3: You would say, is your biggest worry the border?
Speaker 2: No? No, No, My biggest worry is is reaching a
Speaker 2: point to where I can't do this anymore? And that
Speaker 2: can come in a variety of ways. Right, Like in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, it was it was a mental thing, right
Speaker 2: because it was starting to go down like a dark
Speaker 2: path just because of all the stress of all the
Speaker 2: things that I was saying and experiencing just by being there.
Speaker 2: But then it could also just be getting injured to
Speaker 2: a point where I can't go out anymore. And there
Speaker 2: have been a few times where you know, if things,
Speaker 2: if things went a certain way, you know, I could
Speaker 2: get into you know, paralyze you know, or even even
Speaker 2: you know, or even die. Right, And so obviously, like
Speaker 2: I said, now that I kind of have other responsibilities
Speaker 2: besides just work, that be just being able to come
Speaker 2: home and still be able to you know, live life.
Speaker 2: That that's something that I always try to have at
Speaker 2: the back of my mind, especially when I'm out there,
Speaker 2: so that I don't I don't put myself in unnecessarily
Speaker 2: more dangerous situations that anything. Because obviously we want to
Speaker 2: get the story. Obviously we want to get the videos
Speaker 2: and the photos and everything. But it's not worth my life.
Speaker 2: It's not worth being able to it's not worth being
Speaker 2: able to live life in the way that I do
Speaker 2: and in the way that I do now.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and I mean, as you know, in my
Speaker 3: with my mom hat on, but like you know, if
Speaker 3: you get married and have a family, all of that's
Speaker 3: going to get harder as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm kind of at that stage where because
Speaker 2: because I was talking to my mom about that, because
Speaker 2: like what does that mean with kids? And and she goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: like if you have kids, you can't, you can't do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your dog is the preview of that. You know,
Speaker 3: why home to your dog, You're gonna it's even you know,
Speaker 3: possibly even more so with kids.
Speaker 6: Right, No, exactly, so yeah, exactly, And obviously I don't
Speaker 6: And obviously I don't want to just like dump the
Speaker 6: responsibility on someone else because obviously that's my responsibility to
Speaker 6: and I can only get away with that because my
Speaker 6: mom loves my mom loves Fellow, she loves taking here.
Speaker 2: But but I still I still feel bad because and
Speaker 2: so that's so if I feel that way with the dogs,
Speaker 2: like okay, so like that's a kid, Like it's even
Speaker 2: more with a kid. It's even more if there's multiple kids.
Speaker 2: So it's a matter of what So so yeah, I
Speaker 2: kind of worry about, like what what's this going to
Speaker 2: look like? Because even with even with the people that
Speaker 2: the few people that do have kids that do like
Speaker 2: being out in the field, they do obviously they do change,
Speaker 2: like they you know, I ran into somebody who was
Speaker 2: there for one day because she was in the area
Speaker 2: by by chance, and she's like, I have to go back,
Speaker 2: I have to go back to my kid. And it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's really fine. And so it's like, all right,
Speaker 2: that's fine. I'll pick up the slack. You know, It's like,
Speaker 2: I'll pick up the slack because I can do that.
Speaker 2: But you know, obviously at some point, you know, obviously
Speaker 2: I do, like I said, want to have more outside
Speaker 2: of life. So I don't know, I'm not entirely sure
Speaker 2: what that's going to look like. But in true, in
Speaker 2: true Julio stance, I'm just going to procrastinate it just
Speaker 2: just just this a little bit more. But I do
Speaker 2: I do know that the time is kind of you know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of kind of coming up here.
Speaker 3: So what advice would you give sixteen year old Julio
Speaker 3: sixteen year old self? Like, what would you sell yourself?
Speaker 2: Definitely definitely lean into the confidence that that you have.
Speaker 2: And when I say that is I knew I knew
Speaker 2: I couldn't make it. I knew I could make in
Speaker 2: journalism with with if that was just like, oh I
Speaker 2: can do attitude, But I mean it does make a difference, right,
Speaker 2: that that attitude does make a difference if you truly
Speaker 2: believe that you can do it, and the opportunity to
Speaker 2: presents itself, you can. I hate to say, you know,
Speaker 2: cliche or you know, season the day, but I.
Speaker 3: Mean there's a reason, but yeah, there's a reason cliche, but.
Speaker 2: There is a reason. There is a reason why it's
Speaker 2: a long lasting, long lasting kind of life model. But
Speaker 2: it really is true. And so I would say, you know,
Speaker 2: lean into that confidence that you already have. But also
Speaker 2: again and this is kind of what I was saying earlier,
Speaker 2: but don't also get too hyper focused because I was
Speaker 2: in d C for was it seven years? I was
Speaker 2: in the DC area for seven years? Just like just
Speaker 2: throw myself into work. Just yeah I did. Obviously I did.
Speaker 2: Obviously did have friends and you know, didn't kind of
Speaker 2: have a social life. But but that was it. And
Speaker 2: and it got to a point where, especially if this
Speaker 2: was early on, and this is you know, I had
Speaker 2: moved away from my parents and everything, so I wasn't
Speaker 2: used to having to make it like make it a
Speaker 2: point to call them just every once in a while.
Speaker 2: And so my parents at one point told me, it's like,
Speaker 2: you haven't called in three months. Obviously I texted every one,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't just but obviously that's not like just
Speaker 2: a phone call just to talk. It's like you haven't
Speaker 2: called in three months and I didn't, And that wasn't
Speaker 2: even on purpose, right, it's just like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: like you're right. So that that that that's kind of
Speaker 2: what I was saying, where you can just get it
Speaker 2: so consumed. M And obviously it's great to have a
Speaker 2: good work ethic. Yeah, it's great, especially in today's day age.
Speaker 2: But too much, too much of anything is not good.
Speaker 2: And so I would definitely say, you know, take time
Speaker 2: to slow down, enjoy the other things that as much
Speaker 2: as again it's much like the rag on DC, there
Speaker 2: are still good things are also good. There are good
Speaker 2: things about that about the area to take advantage of it,
Speaker 2: and so it would definitely be to just take a
Speaker 2: breath every once in a while. And that's why I
Speaker 2: love living down here in Florida because it's so much
Speaker 2: easier to take those opportunities because obviously not because of
Speaker 2: the weather, but the attitude, the attitude and the vibe
Speaker 2: is obviously different. And that's why that's that's why you.
Speaker 3: Missed one of our parties to go cover the fires.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, that yeah, I know. Again I apologize, but yeah,
Speaker 2: so that that's why it's also kind of like, you know,
Speaker 2: I because that drive, because like I really do have
Speaker 2: that drive when I really don't know what it what
Speaker 2: it is because I mean, obviously, yeah, you get the
Speaker 2: you get the attention because obviously there's not that many people,
Speaker 2: like I said, who just.
Speaker 3: Want to be in the mix. I think that's a
Speaker 3: very normal thing, and I think you do it very well.
Speaker 3: You are clear eyed, and I think your reports are
Speaker 3: are very very good. And it's funny because I think
Speaker 3: a lot of like you know, a lot of media
Speaker 3: is is covering the same thing, but your reports are
Speaker 3: more they just feel more honest, like you're not trying
Speaker 3: to cover anything, cover up anything, or have an angle.
Speaker 3: They're just very very clear.
Speaker 2: And I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because especially in today's day and age with
Speaker 2: social media, there there are obviously it's good to have
Speaker 2: independent like news out there, but there you know, and
Speaker 2: this goes with mainstream media as well, but yeah, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of times where people just want to make
Speaker 2: it about themselves, right, and I understand that to a point,
Speaker 2: because you are out there, if, of course that supplies
Speaker 2: if you're out there. If you're not, then of course
Speaker 2: that doesn't apply. But even then it can get easy
Speaker 2: to get sucked into like, ah, look what I'm doing
Speaker 2: because I'm out here. So again you kind of have
Speaker 2: to keep you kind of have to keep that in
Speaker 2: check because obviously, like, yes, it's important to recognize that like, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm out here, this is what I'm seeing, this is
Speaker 2: what's this is what's happening. The story is about what
Speaker 2: you're capturing, not right, you can you can kind of
Speaker 2: have an analysis afterwards after the fact. That's kind that's
Speaker 2: kind of my rule. That's kind of like what I'm
Speaker 2: doing right now. But but when when you're when when
Speaker 2: in the moment, it's like it's it's about what's what's
Speaker 2: happening out there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I love this conversation. I love hearing about
Speaker 3: what you're doing on the ground. Leave us here with
Speaker 3: your best tip for my listeners on how they can
Speaker 3: improve their lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I would say, and again I hate
Speaker 2: to sound too much like it's much of a cliche,
Speaker 2: but definitely definitely go out and touch grass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. No, I say that all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and I I can't. I hate that I'm
Speaker 2: not more original with that, but it is so important
Speaker 2: just because and that's and again that's why I like
Speaker 2: being out in the field because even though it's work related,
Speaker 2: it does kind of get me out of out of
Speaker 2: the out of the rut, out of the cycle that
Speaker 2: that that that you can get when you sit behind
Speaker 2: the desk for too long m hm. And so that's
Speaker 2: that's not to say to just be lazy, right like that,
Speaker 2: that's not to say like, oh, just kind of forget
Speaker 2: about everything. No, but you go out with a purpose,
Speaker 2: you know, go out with a purpose, go enjoy the
Speaker 2: things that that you do enjoy. And it's interesting because
Speaker 2: we the the you know, Republicans and conservatives are kind
Speaker 2: of having that conversation about with the with the whole
Speaker 2: HB one visa debate. And it is kind of true that,
Speaker 2: you know, because I and I've and I've noticed this
Speaker 2: a lot when I've been to Mexico too, when when
Speaker 2: I when you talk to people like obviously there's a
Speaker 2: difference between like hard work and and work called being
Speaker 2: a workholic. And I'm saying that as a self professed
Speaker 2: kind of workaholic. But the one thing that I don't
Speaker 2: like about American culture is that it's just like you've
Speaker 2: become the company man, and like that's the only way
Speaker 2: to succeed. Obviously, yes, that is a common way to succeed.
Speaker 2: That that I'm not saying like that doesn't happen, but
Speaker 2: it does come at a tremendous cost, like personally, and
Speaker 2: again I say that with experience, and so I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that it's evil, you know, I'm not saying like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's it's like it's so bad, But it's just you
Speaker 2: got to have a right balance. And that's something that
Speaker 2: I'm always working on trying to achieve because for me,
Speaker 2: it's not even just oh I'm at the office for
Speaker 2: ten twelve hours. It's it's like I'm not even here, yeah,
Speaker 2: with my friends, with my family, with you know, with
Speaker 2: my dog, and so that that that is kind of
Speaker 2: a good tether to kind of keep me grounded, to
Speaker 2: always just keep striving for that. And so yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: so obviously that can be in big and small ways.
Speaker 2: I'm probably more the extreme side trying to find that balance.
Speaker 2: But if I can find that balance, if I can
Speaker 2: at least, you know, try to strive for that, then
Speaker 2: other people can definitely have an easier time reaching that.
Speaker 2: At least that's ride.
Speaker 3: That's great. Yeah, he is Julio Rosis. Check out his
Speaker 3: work at the Blaze. If you see a disaster or
Speaker 3: anything happening on TV, he's on the ground covering it.
Speaker 3: Definitely be sure to check him out.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Julio, of course, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us on the Carol Markowitz Show.
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