WEBVTT - The Karol Markowicz Show: Into the Flames with Julio Rosas

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<v Speaker 1>I welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>On the last episode, I talked about a New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times article about a woman who falls in love with

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<v Speaker 1>chat GPT. It's portrayed as this normal thing that she did.

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<v Speaker 1>You just, you know, went ahead and fell in love

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<v Speaker 1>with her AI, as if that was a sane or

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<v Speaker 1>rational path. And I mentioned it on X also and

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<v Speaker 1>was asked, why do you care? This is just a

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<v Speaker 1>lonely person soothing herself. So let's start with why I

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<v Speaker 1>do care it's in the New York Times. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not meant to care, why is there a whole story

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<v Speaker 1>on this? But I particularly care because I have kids

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in this world where a major newspaper thinks

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<v Speaker 1>a story about a woman basically talking to herself is

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<v Speaker 1>just as acceptable a life as any other. I said

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<v Speaker 1>this on the last episode. But it's the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>this life option is presented as just another choice that

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<v Speaker 1>I find so objectionable. This is a terrible choice. This

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<v Speaker 1>is actually no life at all. Really is this a

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<v Speaker 1>lonely woman just trying to feel better? Kind of The

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<v Speaker 1>woman in the story is married, but for financial reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>she lives apart from her husband. They're working towards getting

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<v Speaker 1>back to the same place. Clearly, this isn't a well

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<v Speaker 1>functioning person. So to add an AI love affair, which

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, she's paying for at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the article with money, she does not have to add

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<v Speaker 1>that to the mix. Can we just say no, this

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<v Speaker 1>is bad, don't do this, and have that be enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But even putting aside the coverage in the New York Times,

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<v Speaker 1>because who knows what they cover at this point or

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<v Speaker 1>why this woman needs to pretend to have a boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>who doesn't actually exist, The bigger picture for me is

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<v Speaker 1>that so many people are living their lives completely online

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<v Speaker 1>and not in real life, and this is really the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate version of that. At least most people are interacting

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<v Speaker 1>with real people online, hopefully, but even still, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>sad way to live. I work from home, and I

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<v Speaker 1>always have, so I get the whole having an online

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<v Speaker 1>life thing. I really do. There are days where that

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<v Speaker 1>is the great majority of my human interaction, and I

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that it's not great. I have my husband and

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<v Speaker 1>my kids, but my primary friendships are all happening online,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I realize it's bad. I work towards more

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<v Speaker 1>in real life interactions and connections. But this AI thing

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<v Speaker 1>is taking it to another level, and it shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>normalized or treated as just another way to have a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nobody at the other end of that relationship. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I care. I care because I can see

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<v Speaker 1>where this road leads and it's not anywhere good, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to differentiate between good and bad and not

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<v Speaker 1>allow it to be muddled. There are better and worse

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<v Speaker 1>paths in life. Try to take the better one. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up my interview with Julio Rosis, but first, on January

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<v Speaker 1>three two five. Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show

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<v Speaker 1>on iHeartRadio. My guest today is Julio Rosis. Julio is

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<v Speaker 1>national correspondent for Blaze Media. Hi, Julio, so nice to

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<v Speaker 1>have you on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah for having it, Carol.

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<v Speaker 3>So, this show is generally not about news of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not about, you know, what's going on in

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<v Speaker 3>our media. But it's sort of an interesting moment right now.

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<v Speaker 3>You just got back from California covering the fires, and

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<v Speaker 3>I did want to talk to you about what you

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<v Speaker 3>saw there and what makes you go into disaster areas

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<v Speaker 3>when I would personally run the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, I mean it's a classic case. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>obviously you see the destruction on TV, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>and this this was my first wildfire coverage because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've done hurricanes, I've done you know, the flooding like

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<v Speaker 2>after North Carolina a couple of months ago, and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>this was this was very different because even even before

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<v Speaker 2>leaving the airport, the smoke is so bad, the air

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<v Speaker 2>quality is so bad in Los Angeles right now. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that I started getting a headache from the smoke even

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<v Speaker 2>before leaving the airport, and so that was obviously to

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<v Speaker 2>be expected. But once you're dealing with that for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days, it gets, it gets kind of it

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<v Speaker 2>gets annoying. It's kind of like a it's almost as

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<v Speaker 2>if the smoke is in your head.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a friend, Anthony Cobasas, who is also a reporter.

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<v Speaker 2>He described it feeling the same way. So in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of in terms of why I like to to cover

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<v Speaker 2>these things, the answer is, I don't really know. Outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the side, I would say it's two things. One,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it. It's important obviously because whenever there is chaos,

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<v Speaker 2>whether whether it is riots, whether it's natural disasters or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, stuff that's like happening at the border and

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<v Speaker 2>things relate to that. As we've seen, right, the discourse

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<v Speaker 2>gets very out of control very fast. And being able

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<v Speaker 2>to one be there see it for myself, so that

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<v Speaker 2>gives me some credibility to talk about it, right because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not just somebody behind the computer right mouthing off.

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<v Speaker 2>But also it's not anything wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that there's anything wrong with that, right, I know

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<v Speaker 4>that that's half of our industry, So I have to

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<v Speaker 4>have to be careful, but also just so being able

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<v Speaker 4>to see it for myself and then also able to

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<v Speaker 4>document it accurately and actually get a feel for on

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<v Speaker 4>the ground, talking to people and people that are being

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<v Speaker 4>affected by that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is very important to capture so that the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the country kind of has a better understanding of what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on. And that's applicable to basically almost any story

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<v Speaker 2>chaotic thing. And the other thing is is that it

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<v Speaker 2>is exciting and and I'm I've said this before, but

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<v Speaker 2>I never considered myself to be an adrenaline junkie of

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<v Speaker 2>any kind. I don't like roller coasters. I still don't

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<v Speaker 2>like roller coasters. I don't whenever the you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>plane gets turbulence, which I'm on a lot of planes

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<v Speaker 2>these days. Right, So whenever playing gets urmulents, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like that feeling in my stomach. That's really

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<v Speaker 2>the big thing. Uh. And so but whenever it's in

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<v Speaker 2>not a situation that I can I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>that I can control, because obviously by nature like this

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<v Speaker 2>is very out of control and whatever, whatever the situation is.

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<v Speaker 2>But when being able to kind of navigate it, and

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, also having like a mission behind it,

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<v Speaker 2>I find a lot of satisfaction in being able to

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<v Speaker 2>go out and kind of like complete a mission in

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<v Speaker 2>a sense and in a way, so it's those two

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<v Speaker 2>it's like combining those two things, right, So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the passion while also getting paid for it is a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty nice gig, right, you know, being able to do

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<v Speaker 2>what I like to do as a job. And so

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's kind of why. And also I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>would be kind of like job security because like as

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<v Speaker 2>you said, of people wouldn't want to go at first

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<v Speaker 2>at first of these things, and so kind of being

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that always raises his hand and saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I'll take one for the team. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of things that go into it right,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, for example, because when the fires really started

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<v Speaker 2>raging on that Tuesday, I just got back from DC.

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<v Speaker 2>I was helping Blaze cover you know, January sixth, and

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<v Speaker 2>all that and all that entailed, and I told my

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<v Speaker 2>mom that I was leaving it. And because my mom

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<v Speaker 2>takes care of my dog that I rescued, because she

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<v Speaker 2>lives close by, obviously, whenever I leave, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>give her heads up that, like, hey, you're gonna to

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<v Speaker 2>take care of Bella for the first time. And she

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<v Speaker 2>tells me, no, don't go, Like I feel like if

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<v Speaker 2>you go, things are going to be out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be chaotic there. And I just looked

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<v Speaker 2>at her and I was like, you know, what's what

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<v Speaker 2>I do. Like, if you're trying to convince me to

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<v Speaker 2>not go, that was the wrong thing to say. And

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<v Speaker 2>so she finally was like okay. And so I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely having the gas ask, which I got a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago for the riots with the tear guys

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<v Speaker 2>like that actually came in handy a lot, as you

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<v Speaker 2>can imagine. So yeah, I mean, it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was seeing that sort because she used

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<v Speaker 2>to live in Burbank prior to living in Florida. So

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<v Speaker 2>actually after I started my career in journalism, I was

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<v Speaker 2>actually out there a lot because before we never went

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<v Speaker 2>to Los Angeles and so kind of seeing the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being in those areas that that we would visit, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whether it's like Malibu or Santa Monica and

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<v Speaker 2>seeing the state that it's in, I mean, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is jarring, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is sad because as much as I like

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<v Speaker 2>the rag on California, you know, yeah, but I love California.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a beautiful state. It would be so much better, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, right, And that's the thing. Like, so I as

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<v Speaker 2>someone who spent a lot of time there, I understand

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<v Speaker 2>how much better it can be, and and I do

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate the things that that are still good there, which

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<v Speaker 2>there are quite a few things, right, And I finally

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<v Speaker 2>understood because I want to Pacific Palisades and seeing the

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<v Speaker 2>destruction there and even in its state that it's currently in. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand why people who have grown up, their

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<v Speaker 2>their whole lives aren't just gonna automatically move to a

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<v Speaker 2>red state like Texas are afforded because like that area

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<v Speaker 2>is still nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So what do your parents think about what you

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<v Speaker 3>do in general? Do they? I mean, I'm sure they're

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<v Speaker 3>proud of you, but they can't love you head you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because I was going to say, actually, in another era,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd probably be a war correspondent, but you actually are

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<v Speaker 3>a war correspondent. You do go into war zones, you

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<v Speaker 3>go into all of these things, you go into riots,

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<v Speaker 3>you go into you know, natural disasters, and you have

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<v Speaker 3>been in war zones. So what do they think. Are

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<v Speaker 3>they like, can you please not? Or are they like,

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and do it. This is you know, what

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<v Speaker 3>you were born to do.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I have my parents are very supportive of what

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<v Speaker 2>I do. Obviously, they do have concerns, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on the situation. I would say, when again, when

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to my mom before I loved, she

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<v Speaker 2>definitely had more of a concern than usual because this

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<v Speaker 2>was definitely a much because it was also just a

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<v Speaker 2>new situation, right, it was a new situation because she's

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<v Speaker 2>she is used to me being in right, she is

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<v Speaker 2>used to me being in in uh, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in Israel after October seventh. So but

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<v Speaker 2>but they but they also understand that this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do, right and and there, and like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, they're they're very supportive in that, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I do check in with them a lot whenever whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I do go, and especially my mom, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of telling her how how things were

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<v Speaker 2>and how and and kind of getting her reaction to

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<v Speaker 2>to seeing because even though she she obviously grew to

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<v Speaker 2>dislike California with it with its politics after COVID and

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<v Speaker 2>then all that, you know, she's against New sum and

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<v Speaker 2>then in the recall campaign, so she did, she did

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<v Speaker 2>try her She did try her best when she lived there,

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<v Speaker 2>but she did, you know, she did get very emotional

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<v Speaker 2>because she did spend a lot of time there, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean she lived there for seven and eight years,

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<v Speaker 2>and we actually lived briefly when I was very little

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<v Speaker 2>in California even prior to that.

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<v Speaker 5>So so she she was, you know, pretty upset seeing everything,

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<v Speaker 5>as as a lot of people are obviously, Oh, it's nice, right,

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<v Speaker 5>It's nice to have that that support, and it is

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<v Speaker 5>also kind of like a good I would say good.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of like a control rod and a nuclear reactor,

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<v Speaker 2>where obviously for me, I just want to you know

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<v Speaker 2>at the first time, I think, I just I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to go, right, Like I just just want to

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<v Speaker 2>go and and and you know, maybe I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>about all of the all of the dangers that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of kind of go along sid So whenever I check

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<v Speaker 2>in with my parents, they kind of like, Okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>did you think about this? Do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what are your plans for this? So it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a good it's kind of a good regulator almost

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<v Speaker 2>right to to to just my my natural instinct to

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<v Speaker 2>go out and head into to the craziness. So and

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<v Speaker 2>also now having to take care of a dog isn't

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<v Speaker 2>good because as much as I wouldn want to be

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<v Speaker 2>out there for as long as possible, you get very shed.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom tells me she gets very very sad and

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<v Speaker 2>depressed whenever I'm going for extented period. So it's it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I have to leave, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you always want to do this? Did you always

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<v Speaker 3>want to be a reporter?

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<v Speaker 2>No? So I didn't. I didn't know what I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do when I was in after after high school,

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<v Speaker 2>because I knew I wanted to be in the Marines,

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<v Speaker 2>but in the Marine reserves. So that's a part time thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that full time. So I knew I had to

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<v Speaker 2>obviously have a career outside of that while while I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing the part time thing, and so I took

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<v Speaker 2>a journalism This is like my only formal education was

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<v Speaker 2>a journalism class for one semester in high school. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's very very it's very basic. It's obviously not

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<v Speaker 2>super in depth, and I didn't like it. But even

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<v Speaker 2>at that time, I didn't know what I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But then after I got involved into politics, right before

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty sixteen election, I got into writing, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was just by happenstance. And so after I covered the

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<v Speaker 2>protests at the RNC and the DNC in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>which people forget the DNC was actually had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more protests because all the Bernie bros. Were still upset

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<v Speaker 2>that Hillary kind of you know, sold the nomination with

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<v Speaker 2>the serial delegates, So there were a lot of protests there,

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<v Speaker 2>and so combining that with Twitter, you know, then Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of when I realized, oh, I like being

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<v Speaker 2>out in the field and using social media to give

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<v Speaker 2>live updates. So that's kind of how I So when

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<v Speaker 2>I moved out to d C after Trump won in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen. That's when I really and I covered Charlottesville

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<v Speaker 2>because I was like shortly after. That's when it really

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<v Speaker 2>clicked for me. It's like, Okay, whenever there's an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>for something like this, this is where I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be and this is the type of journalism that I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>What would you be doing if it wasn't this, like

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<v Speaker 3>motorcycle racing, adrenaline junk, Well, yeah, no, motorcycle racing.

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<v Speaker 2>No I yeah, I don't. I don't like to ride motorcycles,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in southern Florida. So no, I don't. I don't know, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't. And that's actually something my parents want

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<v Speaker 2>me to think about often, well just in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>of and I guess this kind of speaks to not

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<v Speaker 2>not to get ahead but with with but the because

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<v Speaker 2>my one of my issues is that i'm too I

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<v Speaker 2>can get hyper focused on an issue, on something, and

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<v Speaker 2>so that if that's all I think about, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>all I focus on, obviously there's you know, there's more

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<v Speaker 2>to life than just being in the field. And so

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in d C that that was especially true,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was because a lot of things were happening,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in twenty twenty, but I kind of let other

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<v Speaker 2>things kind of fall to the wayside. And so moving

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<v Speaker 2>to Florida was kind of an answer to that, because

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<v Speaker 2>when you're sucked into d C, obviously that's that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>the city, right, the city around these news cycles and

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<v Speaker 2>the politics and everything. So being able to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>just remove myself from that environment, obviously still working in

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<v Speaker 2>the industry, but remove myself from the environment to allow

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<v Speaker 2>myself to kind of take pause, take a breath, and

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy other aspects. But no, so the answer question, I

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea. I mean, I was I was when

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<v Speaker 2>I when I was in college because I dropped out.

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing business administration. So I'm not entirely sure,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because again that's very general, So I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>entirely sure what what I would do with that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying I was, I was probably thinking leaning

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<v Speaker 2>towards something like marketing, because again that's like or like communications, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, communicating with the outside world, even though

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<v Speaker 2>nonmusicapacity more.

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<v Speaker 3>So you go into these very tense situations, you go

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<v Speaker 3>into natural disasters and all the rest. What worries you,

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<v Speaker 3>what's your biggest worry about? Just anything really, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you get to see all of this up close, it

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<v Speaker 3>has to affect you.

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<v Speaker 2>It does at a certain point because you know, you try,

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<v Speaker 2>you try, you try not to get to you because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because when you when you're in the situations and you're

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<v Speaker 2>in again. That's why helps having that mission with with

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<v Speaker 2>like reporting because you know you do you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>it to be you know, you don't want to like

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<v Speaker 2>make it about you obviously because you know, unless it's

0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.320
<v Speaker 2>in your area, you're just visiting until you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>always have to keep that in mind. But so having

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<v Speaker 2>that mission and having that that responsibility to focus again,

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<v Speaker 2>to focus and to get the word out on what's on,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on. But yeah, after a while, it does,

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<v Speaker 2>it does kind of weigh on you. And a good

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<v Speaker 2>example outside of the riots was actually the border crisis,

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<v Speaker 2>because when everything first started in twenty twenty one, it

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<v Speaker 2>was obviously a very much a border issue at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning because they were the first being impacted. People were

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<v Speaker 2>just starting to arrive. Yes, even though they were being

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<v Speaker 2>sent out into the United States for that year, the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers hadn't reached critical mass yet, and that didn't happen

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<v Speaker 2>until late or until like mid twenty twenty three, basically

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<v Speaker 2>like a two year period where you know, I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, I'm raising any alarm about it, there's

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<v Speaker 2>other people raising any alarm about it, and sure, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans were too, but understandably it still was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a far away issue. It wasn't like the school board issue,

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<v Speaker 2>like in loud and counting, right, because obviously, oh, like

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<v Speaker 2>that's my kids school board, and then people are looking

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<v Speaker 2>at their other stuff, and so it's whenever I whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I leave, I have to kind of not obviously completely

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<v Speaker 2>forget about it, but I can't dwell on it because

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<v Speaker 2>especially with an issue like that, it's such a huge issue.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a year's long issue. Obviously got worse because of

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<v Speaker 2>the Biden Harris administration, and obviously now it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost incomprehensible about how big of an issue it has become.

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<v Speaker 2>And now it's I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell you that. My my a political sister in law,

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<v Speaker 3>like a month or two ago, was like, do you

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<v Speaker 3>know what's going on at the border? And I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I do. I do know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Internet Explorer. That's explorer, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Telling you it has it has jumped to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>people who just don't follow the news. She's very smart,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, she just has a different you know, different

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<v Speaker 3>different things that she follows.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a normal person, normal person.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly normal people now know about the border.

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<v Speaker 2>So so yeah, so it's so whenever I leave, I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of have to forget about the more horrific aspects

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<v Speaker 2>of it, because if you do just sit on it

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<v Speaker 2>and dwell on it, it will drive you crazy because

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, this is a problem. Why isn't it being solved?

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<v Speaker 3>You would say, is your biggest worry the border?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, No, My biggest worry is is reaching a

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<v Speaker 2>point to where I can't do this anymore? And that

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<v Speaker 2>can come in a variety of ways. Right, Like in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, it was it was a mental thing, right

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<v Speaker 2>because it was starting to go down like a dark

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<v Speaker 2>path just because of all the stress of all the

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<v Speaker 2>things that I was saying and experiencing just by being there.

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<v Speaker 2>But then it could also just be getting injured to

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<v Speaker 2>a point where I can't go out anymore. And there

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<v Speaker 2>have been a few times where you know, if things,

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<v Speaker 2>if things went a certain way, you know, I could

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<v Speaker 2>get into you know, paralyze you know, or even even

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or even die. Right, And so obviously, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, now that I kind of have other responsibilities

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<v Speaker 2>besides just work, that be just being able to come

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<v Speaker 2>home and still be able to you know, live life.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's something that I always try to have at

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<v Speaker 2>the back of my mind, especially when I'm out there,

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<v Speaker 2>so that I don't I don't put myself in unnecessarily

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<v Speaker 2>more dangerous situations that anything. Because obviously we want to

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<v Speaker 2>get the story. Obviously we want to get the videos

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<v Speaker 2>and the photos and everything. But it's not worth my life.

0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 2>It's not worth being able to it's not worth being

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<v Speaker 2>able to live life in the way that I do

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<v Speaker 2>and in the way that I do now.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and I mean, as you know, in my

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<v Speaker 3>with my mom hat on, but like you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you get married and have a family, all of that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to get harder as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm kind of at that stage where because

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<v Speaker 2>because I was talking to my mom about that, because

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<v Speaker 2>like what does that mean with kids? And and she goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you have kids, you can't, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, your dog is the preview of that. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>why home to your dog, You're gonna it's even you know,

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 3>possibly even more so with kids.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, No, exactly, so yeah, exactly, And obviously I don't

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<v Speaker 6>And obviously I don't want to just like dump the

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<v Speaker 6>responsibility on someone else because obviously that's my responsibility to

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<v Speaker 6>and I can only get away with that because my

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 6>mom loves my mom loves Fellow, she loves taking here.

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<v Speaker 2>But but I still I still feel bad because and

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<v Speaker 2>so that's so if I feel that way with the dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>like okay, so like that's a kid, Like it's even

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<v Speaker 2>more with a kid. It's even more if there's multiple kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a matter of what So so yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of worry about, like what what's this going to

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<v Speaker 2>look like? Because even with even with the people that

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<v Speaker 2>the few people that do have kids that do like

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<v Speaker 2>being out in the field, they do obviously they do change,

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<v Speaker 2>like they you know, I ran into somebody who was

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<v Speaker 2>there for one day because she was in the area

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<v Speaker 2>by by chance, and she's like, I have to go back,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to go back to my kid. And it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's really fine. And so it's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine. I'll pick up the slack. You know, It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll pick up the slack because I can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, obviously at some point, you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>I do, like I said, want to have more outside

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<v Speaker 2>of life. So I don't know, I'm not entirely sure

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<v Speaker 2>what that's going to look like. But in true, in

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<v Speaker 2>true Julio stance, I'm just going to procrastinate it just

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<v Speaker 2>just just this a little bit more. But I do

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<v Speaker 2>I do know that the time is kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of kind of coming up here.

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<v Speaker 3>So what advice would you give sixteen year old Julio

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen year old self? Like, what would you sell yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely definitely lean into the confidence that that you have.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I say that is I knew I knew

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't make it. I knew I could make in

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<v Speaker 2>journalism with with if that was just like, oh I

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.959
<v Speaker 2>can do attitude, But I mean it does make a difference, right,

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 2>that that attitude does make a difference if you truly

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<v Speaker 2>believe that you can do it, and the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>presents itself, you can. I hate to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>cliche or you know, season the day, but I.

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Mean there's a reason, but yeah, there's a reason cliche, but.

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 2>There is a reason. There is a reason why it's

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<v Speaker 2>a long lasting, long lasting kind of life model. But

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 2>it really is true. And so I would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>lean into that confidence that you already have. But also

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<v Speaker 2>again and this is kind of what I was saying earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>but don't also get too hyper focused because I was

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<v Speaker 2>in d C for was it seven years? I was

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<v Speaker 2>in the DC area for seven years? Just like just

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<v Speaker 2>throw myself into work. Just yeah I did. Obviously I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously did have friends and you know, didn't kind of

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<v Speaker 2>have a social life. But but that was it. And

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<v Speaker 2>and it got to a point where, especially if this

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<v Speaker 2>was early on, and this is you know, I had

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<v Speaker 2>moved away from my parents and everything, so I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>used to having to make it like make it a

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<v Speaker 2>point to call them just every once in a while.

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>And so my parents at one point told me, it's like,

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 2>you haven't called in three months. Obviously I texted every one,

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't just but obviously that's not like just

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<v Speaker 2>a phone call just to talk. It's like you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>called in three months and I didn't, And that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even on purpose, right, it's just like, oh my goodness,

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 2>like you're right. So that that that that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>what I was saying, where you can just get it

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<v Speaker 2>so consumed. M And obviously it's great to have a

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<v Speaker 2>good work ethic. Yeah, it's great, especially in today's day age.

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>But too much, too much of anything is not good.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I would definitely say, you know, take time

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<v Speaker 2>to slow down, enjoy the other things that as much

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<v Speaker 2>as again it's much like the rag on DC, there

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<v Speaker 2>are still good things are also good. There are good

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 2>things about that about the area to take advantage of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it would definitely be to just take a

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<v Speaker 2>breath every once in a while. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>love living down here in Florida because it's so much

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 2>easier to take those opportunities because obviously not because of

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>the weather, but the attitude, the attitude and the vibe

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 2>is obviously different. And that's why that's that's why you.

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<v Speaker 3>Missed one of our parties to go cover the fires.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, that yeah, I know. Again I apologize, but yeah,

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 2>so that that's why it's also kind of like, you know,

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I because that drive, because like I really do have

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<v Speaker 2>that drive when I really don't know what it what

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 2>it is because I mean, obviously, yeah, you get the

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>you get the attention because obviously there's not that many people,

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>like I said, who just.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to be in the mix. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 3>very normal thing, and I think you do it very well.

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 3>You are clear eyed, and I think your reports are

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<v Speaker 3>are very very good. And it's funny because I think

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of like you know, a lot of media

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<v Speaker 3>is is covering the same thing, but your reports are

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<v Speaker 3>more they just feel more honest, like you're not trying

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<v Speaker 3>to cover anything, cover up anything, or have an angle.

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 3>They're just very very clear.

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<v Speaker 2>And I appreciate you.

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because especially in today's day and age with

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>social media, there there are obviously it's good to have

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>independent like news out there, but there you know, and

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 2>this goes with mainstream media as well, but yeah, there's

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times where people just want to make

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 2>it about themselves, right, and I understand that to a point,

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>because you are out there, if, of course that supplies

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 2>if you're out there. If you're not, then of course

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't apply. But even then it can get easy

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 2>to get sucked into like, ah, look what I'm doing

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 2>because I'm out here. So again you kind of have

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<v Speaker 2>to keep you kind of have to keep that in

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<v Speaker 2>check because obviously, like, yes, it's important to recognize that like, yes,

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm out here, this is what I'm seeing, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what's this is what's happening. The story is about what

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 2>you're capturing, not right, you can you can kind of

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 2>have an analysis afterwards after the fact. That's kind that's

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of my rule. That's kind of like what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing right now. But but when when you're when when

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<v Speaker 2>in the moment, it's like it's it's about what's what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening out there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I love this conversation. I love hearing about

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 3>what you're doing on the ground. Leave us here with

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<v Speaker 3>your best tip for my listeners on how they can

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<v Speaker 3>improve their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I would say, and again I hate

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<v Speaker 2>to sound too much like it's much of a cliche,

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 2>but definitely definitely go out and touch grass.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love that. No, I say that all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and I I can't. I hate that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not more original with that, but it is so important

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<v Speaker 2>just because and that's and again that's why I like

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<v Speaker 2>being out in the field because even though it's work related,

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>it does kind of get me out of out of

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<v Speaker 2>the out of the rut, out of the cycle that

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 2>that that that you can get when you sit behind

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 2>the desk for too long m hm. And so that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's not to say to just be lazy, right like that,

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 2>that's not to say like, oh, just kind of forget

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<v Speaker 2>about everything. No, but you go out with a purpose,

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, go out with a purpose, go enjoy the

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 2>things that that you do enjoy. And it's interesting because

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 2>we the the you know, Republicans and conservatives are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of having that conversation about with the with the whole

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<v Speaker 2>HB one visa debate. And it is kind of true that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I and I've and I've noticed this

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<v Speaker 2>a lot when I've been to Mexico too, when when

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<v Speaker 2>I when you talk to people like obviously there's a

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 2>difference between like hard work and and work called being

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<v Speaker 2>a workholic. And I'm saying that as a self professed

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<v Speaker 2>kind of workaholic. But the one thing that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like about American culture is that it's just like you've

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>become the company man, and like that's the only way

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 2>to succeed. Obviously, yes, that is a common way to succeed.

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>That that I'm not saying like that doesn't happen, but

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<v Speaker 2>it does come at a tremendous cost, like personally, and

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<v Speaker 2>again I say that with experience, and so I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying that it's evil, you know, I'm not saying like, oh,

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 2>it's it's like it's so bad, But it's just you

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<v Speaker 2>got to have a right balance. And that's something that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always working on trying to achieve because for me,

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 2>it's not even just oh I'm at the office for

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 2>ten twelve hours. It's it's like I'm not even here, yeah,

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>with my friends, with my family, with you know, with

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 2>my dog, and so that that that is kind of

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 2>a good tether to kind of keep me grounded, to

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 2>always just keep striving for that. And so yeah, I mean,

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 2>so obviously that can be in big and small ways.

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm probably more the extreme side trying to find that balance.

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:11.719
<v Speaker 2>But if I can find that balance, if I can

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<v Speaker 2>at least, you know, try to strive for that, then

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 2>other people can definitely have an easier time reaching that.

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>At least that's ride.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great. Yeah, he is Julio Rosis. Check out his

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 3>work at the Blaze. If you see a disaster or

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 3>anything happening on TV, he's on the ground covering it.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely be sure to check him out.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Julio, of course, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for joining us on the Carol Markowitz Show.

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