1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: I welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: On the last episode, I talked about a New York 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Times article about a woman who falls in love with 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: chat GPT. It's portrayed as this normal thing that she did. 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: You just, you know, went ahead and fell in love 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: with her AI, as if that was a sane or 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: rational path. And I mentioned it on X also and 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: was asked, why do you care? This is just a 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: lonely person soothing herself. So let's start with why I 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: do care it's in the New York Times. If I'm 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: not meant to care, why is there a whole story 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: on this? But I particularly care because I have kids 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: growing up in this world where a major newspaper thinks 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: a story about a woman basically talking to herself is 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: just as acceptable a life as any other. I said 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: this on the last episode. But it's the fact that 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: this life option is presented as just another choice that 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: I find so objectionable. This is a terrible choice. This 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: is actually no life at all. Really is this a 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: lonely woman just trying to feel better? Kind of The 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: woman in the story is married, but for financial reasons, 22 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: she lives apart from her husband. They're working towards getting 23 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: back to the same place. Clearly, this isn't a well 24 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: functioning person. So to add an AI love affair, which 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: by the way, she's paying for at the end of 26 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: the article with money, she does not have to add 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: that to the mix. Can we just say no, this 28 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: is bad, don't do this, and have that be enough. 29 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: But even putting aside the coverage in the New York Times, 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: because who knows what they cover at this point or 31 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: why this woman needs to pretend to have a boyfriend 32 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: who doesn't actually exist, The bigger picture for me is 33 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: that so many people are living their lives completely online 34 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: and not in real life, and this is really the 35 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: ultimate version of that. At least most people are interacting 36 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: with real people online, hopefully, but even still, that's a 37 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: sad way to live. I work from home, and I 38 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: always have, so I get the whole having an online 39 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: life thing. I really do. There are days where that 40 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: is the great majority of my human interaction, and I 41 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: recognize that it's not great. I have my husband and 42 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: my kids, but my primary friendships are all happening online, 43 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: and again I realize it's bad. I work towards more 44 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: in real life interactions and connections. But this AI thing 45 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: is taking it to another level, and it shouldn't be 46 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: normalized or treated as just another way to have a relationship. 47 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: It's not. 48 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: There's nobody at the other end of that relationship. So 49 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: that's why I care. I care because I can see 50 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: where this road leads and it's not anywhere good, and 51 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: it's important to differentiate between good and bad and not 52 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: allow it to be muddled. There are better and worse 53 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: paths in life. Try to take the better one. Coming 54 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: up my interview with Julio Rosis, but first, on January 55 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: twenty seventh, International Holocaust Remember and Day we remember the 56 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: great evil of the Holocaust, when millions of Jews were 57 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: slaughtered during the Nazis reign of terror. Today, the rise 58 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: in global anti Semitism and the constant attacks on Israel 59 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: show us that it's more important than ever to remember 60 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: the atrocities of the Holocaust to ensure it never happens again. 61 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: That's why I've partnered with the International Fellowship of Christians 62 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: and Jews. 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Or call eight eight 70 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: eight four eight eight IFCJ that's eight eight eight four 71 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: eight eight IFCJ eight eight eight four eight eight four 72 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: three two five. Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show 73 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio. My guest today is Julio Rosis. Julio is 74 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: national correspondent for Blaze Media. Hi, Julio, so nice to 75 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: have you on. 76 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah for having it, Carol. 77 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: So, this show is generally not about news of the day, 78 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: and it's not about, you know, what's going on in 79 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: our media. But it's sort of an interesting moment right now. 80 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: You just got back from California covering the fires, and 81 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: I did want to talk to you about what you 82 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: saw there and what makes you go into disaster areas 83 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: when I would personally run the other way. 84 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean it's a classic case. I mean 85 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: obviously you see the destruction on TV, and I would 86 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: and this this was my first wildfire coverage because you know, 87 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: I've done hurricanes, I've done you know, the flooding like 88 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 2: after North Carolina a couple of months ago, and obviously 89 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: this was this was very different because even even before 90 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: leaving the airport, the smoke is so bad, the air 91 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: quality is so bad in Los Angeles right now. Is 92 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: that I started getting a headache from the smoke even 93 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: before leaving the airport, and so that was obviously to 94 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: be expected. But once you're dealing with that for a 95 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: couple of days, it gets, it gets kind of it 96 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: gets annoying. It's kind of like a it's almost as 97 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: if the smoke is in your head. 98 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 99 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: I had a friend, Anthony Cobasas, who is also a reporter. 100 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 2: He described it feeling the same way. So in terms 101 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: of in terms of why I like to to cover 102 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: these things, the answer is, I don't really know. Outside 103 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: of the side, I would say it's two things. One, 104 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: it's it. It's important obviously because whenever there is chaos, 105 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: whether whether it is riots, whether it's natural disasters or 106 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: you know, stuff that's like happening at the border and 107 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: things relate to that. As we've seen, right, the discourse 108 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: gets very out of control very fast. And being able 109 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: to one be there see it for myself, so that 110 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: gives me some credibility to talk about it, right because 111 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: I'm not just somebody behind the computer right mouthing off. 112 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: But also it's not anything wrong with that. 113 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: Now that there's anything wrong with that, right, I know 114 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: that that's half of our industry, So I have to 115 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 4: have to be careful, but also just so being able 116 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: to see it for myself and then also able to 117 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: document it accurately and actually get a feel for on 118 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: the ground, talking to people and people that are being 119 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: affected by that. 120 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: Is very important to capture so that the rest of 121 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: the country kind of has a better understanding of what's 122 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: going on. And that's applicable to basically almost any story 123 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: chaotic thing. And the other thing is is that it 124 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: is exciting and and I'm I've said this before, but 125 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: I never considered myself to be an adrenaline junkie of 126 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: any kind. I don't like roller coasters. I still don't 127 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: like roller coasters. I don't whenever the you know, a 128 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: plane gets turbulence, which I'm on a lot of planes 129 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: these days. Right, So whenever playing gets urmulents, I don't 130 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: I don't like that feeling in my stomach. That's really 131 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: the big thing. Uh. And so but whenever it's in 132 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: not a situation that I can I want to say 133 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: that I can control, because obviously by nature like this 134 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: is very out of control and whatever, whatever the situation is. 135 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: But when being able to kind of navigate it, and 136 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: like I said, also having like a mission behind it, 137 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: I find a lot of satisfaction in being able to 138 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 2: go out and kind of like complete a mission in 139 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: a sense and in a way, so it's those two 140 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: it's like combining those two things, right, So it's like 141 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: the passion while also getting paid for it is a 142 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: pretty nice gig, right, you know, being able to do 143 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: what I like to do as a job. And so 144 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: that's that's kind of why. And also I guess it 145 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: would be kind of like job security because like as 146 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: you said, of people wouldn't want to go at first 147 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: at first of these things, and so kind of being 148 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 2: the guy that always raises his hand and saying, okay, 149 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: all right, I'll take one for the team. And you know, 150 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that go into it right, 151 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: and like, for example, because when the fires really started 152 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: raging on that Tuesday, I just got back from DC. 153 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 2: I was helping Blaze cover you know, January sixth, and 154 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: all that and all that entailed, and I told my 155 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: mom that I was leaving it. And because my mom 156 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: takes care of my dog that I rescued, because she 157 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: lives close by, obviously, whenever I leave, I have to 158 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: give her heads up that, like, hey, you're gonna to 159 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: take care of Bella for the first time. And she 160 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: tells me, no, don't go, Like I feel like if 161 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: you go, things are going to be out of control. 162 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: It's going to be chaotic there. And I just looked 163 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: at her and I was like, you know, what's what 164 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: I do. Like, if you're trying to convince me to 165 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: not go, that was the wrong thing to say. And 166 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: so she finally was like okay. And so I would say, 167 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: definitely having the gas ask, which I got a couple 168 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 2: of years ago for the riots with the tear guys 169 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: like that actually came in handy a lot, as you 170 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: can imagine. So yeah, I mean, it was it was 171 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: it was it was seeing that sort because she used 172 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: to live in Burbank prior to living in Florida. So 173 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: actually after I started my career in journalism, I was 174 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 2: actually out there a lot because before we never went 175 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: to Los Angeles and so kind of seeing the you know, 176 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: being in those areas that that we would visit, uh, 177 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 2: you know, whether it's like Malibu or Santa Monica and 178 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: seeing the state that it's in, I mean, like, yeah, 179 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: it is jarring, it is. 180 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: It is. 181 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is sad because as much as I like 182 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: the rag on California, you know, yeah, but I love California. 183 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: That's a beautiful state. It would be so much better, you. 184 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: Know, right, And that's the thing. Like, so I as 185 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: someone who spent a lot of time there, I understand 186 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: how much better it can be, and and I do 187 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: appreciate the things that that are still good there, which 188 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: there are quite a few things, right, And I finally 189 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: understood because I want to Pacific Palisades and seeing the 190 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: destruction there and even in its state that it's currently in. Unfortunately, 191 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: I can understand why people who have grown up, their 192 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: their whole lives aren't just gonna automatically move to a 193 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: red state like Texas are afforded because like that area 194 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: is still nice. 195 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: So nice. 196 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So what do your parents think about what you 197 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 3: do in general? Do they? I mean, I'm sure they're 198 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: proud of you, but they can't love you head you know, 199 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: because I was going to say, actually, in another era, 200 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: you'd probably be a war correspondent, but you actually are 201 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 3: a war correspondent. You do go into war zones, you 202 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: go into all of these things, you go into riots, 203 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: you go into you know, natural disasters, and you have 204 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: been in war zones. So what do they think. Are 205 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: they like, can you please not? Or are they like, 206 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: go ahead and do it. This is you know, what 207 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: you were born to do. 208 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: No, I have my parents are very supportive of what 209 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: I do. Obviously, they do have concerns, uh, you know, 210 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: depending on the situation. I would say, when again, when 211 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: I was talking to my mom before I loved, she 212 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: definitely had more of a concern than usual because this 213 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: was definitely a much because it was also just a 214 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: new situation, right, it was a new situation because she's 215 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: she is used to me being in right, she is 216 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: used to me being in in uh, you know, like 217 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: when I was in Israel after October seventh. So but 218 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: but they but they also understand that this is what 219 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: I want to do, right and and there, and like 220 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: I said, they're they're very supportive in that, and so 221 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: I do check in with them a lot whenever whenever 222 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 2: I do go, and especially my mom, because you know, 223 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: I was kind of telling her how how things were 224 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: and how and and kind of getting her reaction to 225 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: to seeing because even though she she obviously grew to 226 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: dislike California with it with its politics after COVID and 227 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: then all that, you know, she's against New sum and 228 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: then in the recall campaign, so she did, she did 229 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: try her She did try her best when she lived there, 230 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: but she did, you know, she did get very emotional 231 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: because she did spend a lot of time there, right, 232 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: I mean she lived there for seven and eight years, 233 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: and we actually lived briefly when I was very little 234 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: in California even prior to that. 235 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 5: So so she she was, you know, pretty upset seeing everything, 236 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 5: as as a lot of people are obviously, Oh, it's nice, right, 237 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 5: It's nice to have that that support, and it is 238 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 5: also kind of like a good I would say good. 239 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: Kind of like a control rod and a nuclear reactor, 240 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: where obviously for me, I just want to you know 241 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: at the first time, I think, I just I just 242 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: want to go, right, Like I just just want to 243 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: go and and and you know, maybe I don't think 244 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: about all of the all of the dangers that kind 245 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: of kind of go along sid So whenever I check 246 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: in with my parents, they kind of like, Okay, well 247 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: did you think about this? Do you think about that? 248 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: Like what are your plans for this? So it's kind 249 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: of a good it's kind of a good regulator almost 250 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: right to to to just my my natural instinct to 251 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: go out and head into to the craziness. So and 252 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: also now having to take care of a dog isn't 253 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: good because as much as I wouldn want to be 254 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: out there for as long as possible, you get very shed. 255 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: My mom tells me she gets very very sad and 256 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: depressed whenever I'm going for extented period. So it's it's like, okay, 257 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: so I have to leave, right. 258 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: Did you always want to do this? Did you always 259 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: want to be a reporter? 260 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: No? So I didn't. I didn't know what I wanted 261 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: to do when I was in after after high school, 262 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: because I knew I wanted to be in the Marines, 263 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: but in the Marine reserves. So that's a part time thing. 264 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: It's that full time. So I knew I had to 265 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: obviously have a career outside of that while while I 266 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: was doing the part time thing, and so I took 267 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: a journalism This is like my only formal education was 268 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: a journalism class for one semester in high school. Right, 269 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: So it's very very it's very basic. It's obviously not 270 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: super in depth, and I didn't like it. But even 271 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: at that time, I didn't know what I wanted to do. 272 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: But then after I got involved into politics, right before 273 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen election, I got into writing, and that 274 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: was just by happenstance. And so after I covered the 275 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: protests at the RNC and the DNC in twenty sixteen, 276 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: which people forget the DNC was actually had a lot 277 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: more protests because all the Bernie bros. Were still upset 278 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: that Hillary kind of you know, sold the nomination with 279 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: the serial delegates, So there were a lot of protests there, 280 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: and so combining that with Twitter, you know, then Twitter, 281 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: that's kind of when I realized, oh, I like being 282 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: out in the field and using social media to give 283 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: live updates. So that's kind of how I So when 284 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: I moved out to d C after Trump won in 285 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. That's when I really and I covered Charlottesville 286 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: because I was like shortly after. That's when it really 287 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: clicked for me. It's like, Okay, whenever there's an opportunity 288 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: for something like this, this is where I want to 289 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: be and this is the type of journalism that I 290 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: want to do. 291 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 3: What would you be doing if it wasn't this, like 292 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: motorcycle racing, adrenaline junk, Well, yeah, no, motorcycle racing. 293 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: No I yeah, I don't. I don't like to ride motorcycles, 294 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: especially in southern Florida. So no, I don't. I don't know, honestly, 295 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: I really don't. And that's actually something my parents want 296 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: me to think about often, well just in the sense 297 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: of and I guess this kind of speaks to not 298 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: not to get ahead but with with but the because 299 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: my one of my issues is that i'm too I 300 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: can get hyper focused on an issue, on something, and 301 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: so that if that's all I think about, and that's 302 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: all I focus on, obviously there's you know, there's more 303 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: to life than just being in the field. And so 304 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: when I was in d C that that was especially true, 305 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: and that was because a lot of things were happening, 306 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: especially in twenty twenty, but I kind of let other 307 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: things kind of fall to the wayside. And so moving 308 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: to Florida was kind of an answer to that, because 309 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: when you're sucked into d C, obviously that's that's that's 310 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: the city, right, the city around these news cycles and 311 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: the politics and everything. So being able to kind of 312 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: just remove myself from that environment, obviously still working in 313 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: the industry, but remove myself from the environment to allow 314 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: myself to kind of take pause, take a breath, and 315 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: enjoy other aspects. But no, so the answer question, I 316 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: have no idea. I mean, I was I was when 317 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: I when I was in college because I dropped out. 318 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: I was doing business administration. So I'm not entirely sure, 319 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: you know, because again that's very general, So I'm not 320 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: entirely sure what what I would do with that. Maybe 321 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: I was saying I was, I was probably thinking leaning 322 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 2: towards something like marketing, because again that's like or like communications, right, 323 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: so you know, communicating with the outside world, even though 324 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 2: nonmusicapacity more. 325 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: With Julio in a moment, But first, well, we may 326 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: have won this election. The fight to restore our great 327 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: nation is only beginning. Now is the time to take 328 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: a stand, and Patriot Mobile is leading the charge. As 329 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. 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Just anything really, but you know, 352 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: you get to see all of this up close, it 353 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: has to affect you. 354 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: It does at a certain point because you know, you try, 355 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: you try, you try not to get to you because yeah, 356 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: because when you when you're in the situations and you're 357 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: in again. That's why helps having that mission with with 358 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: like reporting because you know you do you don't want 359 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: it to be you know, you don't want to like 360 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: make it about you obviously because you know, unless it's 361 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: in your area, you're just visiting until you kind of 362 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: always have to keep that in mind. But so having 363 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: that mission and having that that responsibility to focus again, 364 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: to focus and to get the word out on what's on, 365 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: what's going on. But yeah, after a while, it does, 366 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: it does kind of weigh on you. And a good 367 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: example outside of the riots was actually the border crisis, 368 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: because when everything first started in twenty twenty one, it 369 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: was obviously a very much a border issue at the 370 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: beginning because they were the first being impacted. People were 371 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: just starting to arrive. Yes, even though they were being 372 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: sent out into the United States for that year, the 373 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: numbers hadn't reached critical mass yet, and that didn't happen 374 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: until late or until like mid twenty twenty three, basically 375 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: like a two year period where you know, I'm kind 376 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: of you know, I'm raising any alarm about it, there's 377 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: other people raising any alarm about it, and sure, obviously 378 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: Republicans were too, but understandably it still was kind of 379 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: a far away issue. It wasn't like the school board issue, 380 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: like in loud and counting, right, because obviously, oh, like 381 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: that's my kids school board, and then people are looking 382 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 2: at their other stuff, and so it's whenever I whenever 383 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 2: I leave, I have to kind of not obviously completely 384 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: forget about it, but I can't dwell on it because 385 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: especially with an issue like that, it's such a huge issue. 386 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: It's a year's long issue. Obviously got worse because of 387 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: the Biden Harris administration, and obviously now it's it's it's 388 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: almost incomprehensible about how big of an issue it has become. 389 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: And now it's I'll. 390 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: Tell you that. My my a political sister in law, 391 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: like a month or two ago, was like, do you 392 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 3: know what's going on at the border? And I was like, yeah, 393 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: I do. I do know what's going on. 394 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: It's like Internet Explorer. That's explorer, but. 395 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: Telling you it has it has jumped to you know, 396 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 3: people who just don't follow the news. She's very smart, 397 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: you know, she just has a different you know, different 398 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: different things that she follows. 399 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: She's a normal person, normal person. 400 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 3: Exactly normal people now know about the border. 401 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: So so yeah, so it's so whenever I leave, I 402 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: kind of have to forget about the more horrific aspects 403 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: of it, because if you do just sit on it 404 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: and dwell on it, it will drive you crazy because 405 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: it's like, this is a problem. Why isn't it being solved? 406 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: You would say, is your biggest worry the border? 407 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: No? No, No, My biggest worry is is reaching a 408 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: point to where I can't do this anymore? And that 409 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: can come in a variety of ways. Right, Like in 410 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, it was it was a mental thing, right 411 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: because it was starting to go down like a dark 412 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: path just because of all the stress of all the 413 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 2: things that I was saying and experiencing just by being there. 414 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: But then it could also just be getting injured to 415 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: a point where I can't go out anymore. And there 416 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: have been a few times where you know, if things, 417 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: if things went a certain way, you know, I could 418 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: get into you know, paralyze you know, or even even 419 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 2: you know, or even die. Right, And so obviously, like 420 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 2: I said, now that I kind of have other responsibilities 421 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: besides just work, that be just being able to come 422 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 2: home and still be able to you know, live life. 423 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: That that's something that I always try to have at 424 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: the back of my mind, especially when I'm out there, 425 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: so that I don't I don't put myself in unnecessarily 426 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: more dangerous situations that anything. Because obviously we want to 427 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: get the story. Obviously we want to get the videos 428 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: and the photos and everything. But it's not worth my life. 429 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: It's not worth being able to it's not worth being 430 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 2: able to live life in the way that I do 431 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: and in the way that I do now. 432 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: So yeah, and I mean, as you know, in my 433 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: with my mom hat on, but like you know, if 434 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: you get married and have a family, all of that's 435 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: going to get harder as well. 436 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm kind of at that stage where because 437 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: because I was talking to my mom about that, because 438 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: like what does that mean with kids? And and she goes, yeah, 439 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: like if you have kids, you can't, you can't do that. 440 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, your dog is the preview of that. You know, 441 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: why home to your dog, You're gonna it's even you know, 442 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: possibly even more so with kids. 443 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 6: Right, No, exactly, so yeah, exactly, And obviously I don't 444 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 6: And obviously I don't want to just like dump the 445 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 6: responsibility on someone else because obviously that's my responsibility to 446 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 6: and I can only get away with that because my 447 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 6: mom loves my mom loves Fellow, she loves taking here. 448 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: But but I still I still feel bad because and 449 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 2: so that's so if I feel that way with the dogs, 450 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: like okay, so like that's a kid, Like it's even 451 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: more with a kid. It's even more if there's multiple kids. 452 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: So it's a matter of what So so yeah, I 453 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: kind of worry about, like what what's this going to 454 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: look like? Because even with even with the people that 455 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: the few people that do have kids that do like 456 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: being out in the field, they do obviously they do change, 457 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: like they you know, I ran into somebody who was 458 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: there for one day because she was in the area 459 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: by by chance, and she's like, I have to go back, 460 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: I have to go back to my kid. And it's like, yeah, 461 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: that's that's really fine. And so it's like, all right, 462 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: that's fine. I'll pick up the slack. You know, It's like, 463 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: I'll pick up the slack because I can do that. 464 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 2: But you know, obviously at some point, you know, obviously 465 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 2: I do, like I said, want to have more outside 466 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: of life. So I don't know, I'm not entirely sure 467 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: what that's going to look like. But in true, in 468 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: true Julio stance, I'm just going to procrastinate it just 469 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: just just this a little bit more. But I do 470 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: I do know that the time is kind of you know, 471 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: it's kind of kind of coming up here. 472 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: So what advice would you give sixteen year old Julio 473 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: sixteen year old self? Like, what would you sell yourself? 474 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: Definitely definitely lean into the confidence that that you have. 475 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: And when I say that is I knew I knew 476 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 2: I couldn't make it. I knew I could make in 477 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: journalism with with if that was just like, oh I 478 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 2: can do attitude, But I mean it does make a difference, right, 479 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: that that attitude does make a difference if you truly 480 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: believe that you can do it, and the opportunity to 481 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: presents itself, you can. I hate to say, you know, 482 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: cliche or you know, season the day, but I. 483 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 3: Mean there's a reason, but yeah, there's a reason cliche, but. 484 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: There is a reason. There is a reason why it's 485 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: a long lasting, long lasting kind of life model. But 486 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: it really is true. And so I would say, you know, 487 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: lean into that confidence that you already have. But also 488 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: again and this is kind of what I was saying earlier, 489 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: but don't also get too hyper focused because I was 490 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: in d C for was it seven years? I was 491 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: in the DC area for seven years? Just like just 492 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: throw myself into work. Just yeah I did. Obviously I did. 493 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: Obviously did have friends and you know, didn't kind of 494 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: have a social life. But but that was it. And 495 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: and it got to a point where, especially if this 496 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: was early on, and this is you know, I had 497 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: moved away from my parents and everything, so I wasn't 498 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: used to having to make it like make it a 499 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: point to call them just every once in a while. 500 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: And so my parents at one point told me, it's like, 501 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: you haven't called in three months. Obviously I texted every one, 502 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: but it wasn't just but obviously that's not like just 503 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 2: a phone call just to talk. It's like you haven't 504 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: called in three months and I didn't, And that wasn't 505 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: even on purpose, right, it's just like, oh my goodness, 506 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: like you're right. So that that that that's kind of 507 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 2: what I was saying, where you can just get it 508 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: so consumed. M And obviously it's great to have a 509 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: good work ethic. Yeah, it's great, especially in today's day age. 510 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: But too much, too much of anything is not good. 511 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: And so I would definitely say, you know, take time 512 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: to slow down, enjoy the other things that as much 513 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: as again it's much like the rag on DC, there 514 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: are still good things are also good. There are good 515 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: things about that about the area to take advantage of it, 516 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: and so it would definitely be to just take a 517 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: breath every once in a while. And that's why I 518 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: love living down here in Florida because it's so much 519 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: easier to take those opportunities because obviously not because of 520 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: the weather, but the attitude, the attitude and the vibe 521 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: is obviously different. And that's why that's that's why you. 522 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: Missed one of our parties to go cover the fires. 523 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: Well yeah, that yeah, I know. Again I apologize, but yeah, 524 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: so that that's why it's also kind of like, you know, 525 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: I because that drive, because like I really do have 526 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: that drive when I really don't know what it what 527 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: it is because I mean, obviously, yeah, you get the 528 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: you get the attention because obviously there's not that many people, 529 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: like I said, who just. 530 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: Want to be in the mix. I think that's a 531 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: very normal thing, and I think you do it very well. 532 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 3: You are clear eyed, and I think your reports are 533 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: are very very good. And it's funny because I think 534 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: a lot of like you know, a lot of media 535 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: is is covering the same thing, but your reports are 536 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 3: more they just feel more honest, like you're not trying 537 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: to cover anything, cover up anything, or have an angle. 538 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: They're just very very clear. 539 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: And I appreciate you. 540 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: I do. 541 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because especially in today's day and age with 542 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: social media, there there are obviously it's good to have 543 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: independent like news out there, but there you know, and 544 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: this goes with mainstream media as well, but yeah, there's 545 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: a lot of times where people just want to make 546 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: it about themselves, right, and I understand that to a point, 547 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: because you are out there, if, of course that supplies 548 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: if you're out there. If you're not, then of course 549 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: that doesn't apply. But even then it can get easy 550 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: to get sucked into like, ah, look what I'm doing 551 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: because I'm out here. So again you kind of have 552 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: to keep you kind of have to keep that in 553 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: check because obviously, like, yes, it's important to recognize that like, yes, 554 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm out here, this is what I'm seeing, this is 555 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: what's this is what's happening. The story is about what 556 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: you're capturing, not right, you can you can kind of 557 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: have an analysis afterwards after the fact. That's kind that's 558 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: kind of my rule. That's kind of like what I'm 559 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: doing right now. But but when when you're when when 560 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: in the moment, it's like it's it's about what's what's 561 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: happening out there? 562 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I love this conversation. I love hearing about 563 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: what you're doing on the ground. Leave us here with 564 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,239 Speaker 3: your best tip for my listeners on how they can 565 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: improve their lives. 566 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I would say, and again I hate 567 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: to sound too much like it's much of a cliche, 568 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: but definitely definitely go out and touch grass. 569 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. No, I say that all the time. 570 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and I I can't. I hate that I'm 571 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: not more original with that, but it is so important 572 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: just because and that's and again that's why I like 573 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: being out in the field because even though it's work related, 574 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: it does kind of get me out of out of 575 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: the out of the rut, out of the cycle that 576 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: that that that you can get when you sit behind 577 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: the desk for too long m hm. And so that's 578 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: that's not to say to just be lazy, right like that, 579 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: that's not to say like, oh, just kind of forget 580 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: about everything. No, but you go out with a purpose, 581 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: you know, go out with a purpose, go enjoy the 582 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: things that that you do enjoy. And it's interesting because 583 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: we the the you know, Republicans and conservatives are kind 584 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: of having that conversation about with the with the whole 585 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: HB one visa debate. And it is kind of true that, 586 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: you know, because I and I've and I've noticed this 587 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: a lot when I've been to Mexico too, when when 588 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: I when you talk to people like obviously there's a 589 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: difference between like hard work and and work called being 590 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: a workholic. And I'm saying that as a self professed 591 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: kind of workaholic. But the one thing that I don't 592 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: like about American culture is that it's just like you've 593 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: become the company man, and like that's the only way 594 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: to succeed. Obviously, yes, that is a common way to succeed. 595 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: That that I'm not saying like that doesn't happen, but 596 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: it does come at a tremendous cost, like personally, and 597 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 2: again I say that with experience, and so I'm not 598 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: saying that it's evil, you know, I'm not saying like, oh, 599 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: it's it's like it's so bad, But it's just you 600 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: got to have a right balance. And that's something that 601 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm always working on trying to achieve because for me, 602 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: it's not even just oh I'm at the office for 603 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: ten twelve hours. It's it's like I'm not even here, yeah, 604 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: with my friends, with my family, with you know, with 605 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: my dog, and so that that that is kind of 606 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: a good tether to kind of keep me grounded, to 607 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: always just keep striving for that. And so yeah, I mean, 608 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: so obviously that can be in big and small ways. 609 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: I'm probably more the extreme side trying to find that balance. 610 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 2: But if I can find that balance, if I can 611 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: at least, you know, try to strive for that, then 612 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: other people can definitely have an easier time reaching that. 613 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: At least that's ride. 614 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 3: That's great. Yeah, he is Julio Rosis. Check out his 615 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: work at the Blaze. If you see a disaster or 616 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: anything happening on TV, he's on the ground covering it. 617 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: Definitely be sure to check him out. 618 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, Julio, of course, thanks for having me. 619 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us on the Carol Markowitz Show. 620 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.