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Speaker 1: Oh, good times. Time banks down down over time. Good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Welcome on one Bill Side, Welcome to Orchard Park, to

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Speaker 1: a new era of field right next door to our studio. Here.

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Speaker 1: The field is covered in snow today, A little bit

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Speaker 1: of light snow in the Orchard Park overnight. We've got

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Speaker 1: a little snow left over today. Good afternoon, everybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? Field looks horrible? Come on, they

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Speaker 1: were all shuttered up. I'm so sad. Look godli let

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Speaker 1: me tell you the truth. I am trying to get

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Speaker 1: us going. I'm trying to get us going here. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's been a rough couple of days here this week.

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Speaker 1: I'm determined to put that behind us and get going

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Speaker 1: on a positive standpoint into the future. There's stuff to

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Speaker 1: talk about in the future. When you started show saying,

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Speaker 1: oh that field looks horrible, come on, say this though,

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Speaker 1: what I'll say this, I'll confess. I'll confess we have

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Speaker 1: it has been a rough couple of days on the show.

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Speaker 1: After this game, and I think everybody Bills fans the

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Speaker 1: same way. Yes, everybody feel the same. It was so

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Speaker 1: fun leading up to that game on Saturday. We felt

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Speaker 1: so confident going and with every reason too. We got

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Speaker 1: a good football team here and a lot of reasons

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Speaker 1: to be optimistic about the future. Nevertheless, I think the

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Speaker 1: overriding theme of you know, Bills fans was, you know,

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Speaker 1: a huge opportunity lost. And it's always easy to sit

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Speaker 1: here and think now, at this point too, where we

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Speaker 1: would have been, you know, because we always expect we

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Speaker 1: expected to beat Houston, and I would say, generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: to Kansas City and win. There no question about it.

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Speaker 1: We felt like you could win in Houston, and rightfully so,

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Speaker 1: we were proven we could have, would have should have

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Speaker 1: won that game, but didn't. Even so, you'd think even

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Speaker 1: if we won that game last week, when we really

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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have expected to beat Kansas City and all that,

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Speaker 1: you know what, it doesn't matter. You still I still

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Speaker 1: want to see our team play those guys. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to see our team play more this year. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's the same thing that goes into all the discussion.

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Speaker 1: And this seems like it's off topic, but it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's the same mentality that goes into all the rules

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Speaker 1: changed discussions after overtime when one team when it doesn't

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Speaker 1: go the way and they should have gotten a chance

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Speaker 1: to score, or they should have gotten this in overtime.

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Speaker 1: This is a bad rule in overtime the year. The

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Speaker 1: reason is you want to see more. You don't want

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Speaker 1: those games to end. You want every team to have

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Speaker 1: every opportunity to have those win win those games. And

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of the same way this Bill season went.

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Speaker 1: It went in kind of overtime into the playoffs. You

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Speaker 1: don't want those to end. It's such it was such

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Speaker 1: good football. It was such a roller coaster of fun

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Speaker 1: and excruciating pain from week to week it was. It

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Speaker 1: and it's like trying not to be in a funk, Steve,

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Speaker 1: We're trying to try. We are, though we are such

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Speaker 1: a funk. Was I in a funk in the offense today? No? I.

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Speaker 1: I was actually spent a little bit of time looking

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Speaker 1: this time, And yeah, that's escaping from reality. But look,

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Speaker 1: the reality is the Bills were not good enough to

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Speaker 1: And they were a lot of the issues that cropped

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Speaker 1: They've got to get them fixed. I think they demonstrated

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Speaker 1: yesterday McDermott and Bean, they demonstrated a firm grasp of

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Speaker 1: what the issues are, what needs to be solved. They

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Speaker 1: both said, we need to get better on offense. We

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Speaker 1: need to score more points. I mean, how much simpler

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Speaker 1: But I think we have approached the time when you

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this too, you take the big picture

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Speaker 1: into account. Yeah, we've got some warts on our game.

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Speaker 1: We've got some things on our roster we'd like to fix,

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Speaker 1: His top end is already there. We've seen what he

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Speaker 1: You know, that is really enough, And that's how close

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Speaker 1: They got because they got a high percentage of guys

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Speaker 1: McDermott likes this roster and I do too, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: stupider than the second response. I don't like that Twitter poll, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I don't like it. We sat in silence for like

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Speaker 1: two hours. I told you it was not a good

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Speaker 1: and that's why I was. I was sitting there quiet,

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Speaker 1: and you were too, and you're telling me you weren't

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Speaker 1: Twitter Twitter povid it gets you going, though, doesn't it,

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Speaker 1: Because this is that gets back to this last Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It's so frustrated over the missed opportunity that they had

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Speaker 1: pretty frustrating. So talk about out that Twitter poll. What

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Speaker 1: He was not the can't throw it. He stunk drew

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Speaker 1: pretty well a couple of weeks ago, two and a

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Speaker 1: half weeks ago against the Bill. He's not the one

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Speaker 1: that scares me. The head coach and their program scare me,

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Speaker 1: that guy's not going away. Bill Belichick is the author

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Speaker 1: of our pain. The guy went eleven and five with

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Speaker 1: Matt Castle, he went three and one with coach Jacoby

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Speaker 1: Brissette and an injured Jimmy gar Appolo. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna be tough to beat as long

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Speaker 1: as Bill Belichick is the guy that is the architect.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you can go down this road

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Speaker 1: as far as you want. I know some of it's

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Speaker 1: just crazy talk, but listen, he took a guy with

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Speaker 1: sixth round talent, physical talent and made him the goat.

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Speaker 1: He didn't do it alone. Brady had a lot to

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Speaker 1: do with that. Brady's a sharp guy, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, there's been one quarterback in the history

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Speaker 1: the NFL who has gone in there in their first

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Speaker 1: playoffs start into Foxborough and one and it happened last

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Speaker 1: Sunday one. Over twenty years, twenty and they've had home

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Speaker 1: game after home game, after home game after home game.

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Speaker 1: Nobody goes in there and wins' that's not just Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Brady's as He's stunk. Last year, he completed sixty one

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Speaker 1: percent of his passes twenty four touchdowns, eight interceptions. There's

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Speaker 1: about thirty other NFL teams who would take that level

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Speaker 1: of stinking. He did not stink last year. He was

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Speaker 1: not Brady of the past, but he didn't stink last year.

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Speaker 1: What would What were Josh's numbers? I can look that up.

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Speaker 1: He completed like fifty five percent of his passes for

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Speaker 1: I think twenty touchdowns and nine intercepts. Josh Allen was

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Speaker 1: fifty eight percent of his past the fifteen almost fifty

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Speaker 1: nine percent of his passes. And what was Brady sixty

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Speaker 1: point eight sixty? It was sixty point sixty point eight.

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Speaker 1: I was two percent better completion percentage. Josh had twenty tds,

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Speaker 1: nine interceptions. What was Brady twenty four and eight? So

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Speaker 1: Josh stunts as bad as Brady stunts. So you're telling no,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. You're telling me a guy like Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen is like, you're afraid of our guy against that guy,

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Speaker 1: not afraid of anything. But he didn't stink, Nor did

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Speaker 1: Josh stink. What you're not even making sense. Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: did not stink last year. He didn't play as well

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Speaker 1: as he has in the past. He did not stink,

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Speaker 1: and neither did Josh Allen. Yeah, okay, I'm not saying, Josh,

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Speaker 1: you're either want to listen, you said Tom Brady compared

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Speaker 1: to what Tom you're telling me. Tom Brady played like

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Speaker 1: a guy who won six Super Bowls and went to

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Speaker 1: nine of them and was MVP three times. He's compared

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Speaker 1: to Tom Brady did. And that's the problem. Okay, that's what.

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Speaker 1: That's what, and that's what happens to every old quarterback whenever,

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Speaker 1: whenever these quarterbacks get old, and I'm falling into the

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Speaker 1: same trap to all day this, Jim Kelly, Joe Montana,

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Speaker 1: Steve Young, who's another great quarterback that all time grade, right,

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Speaker 1: what happens at the end of their careers. They start

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Speaker 1: getting compared not to other quarterbacks in the league, but

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Speaker 1: to themselves of the old like Warren Moon, all those guys,

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Speaker 1: Rich all those guys, all these Hall of Fame quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: at the end of their Dan Marino, they start getting

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Speaker 1: compared not to other quarterbacks in the league, but to themselves.

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Speaker 1: That's what they used to be. And if you compared

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady this year to Tom Brady of two thousand,

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Speaker 1: what six, two thousand and eight, when they were sixteen

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Speaker 1: and Ozer, he'd get benched Balogney. That's crazy talk. That's nuts,

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Speaker 1: is it? Yes, did not stink last year. He was

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Speaker 1: not the way he was, but he didn't stink. Well,

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Speaker 1: who are we talking about? Tom? We're talking about Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen because Josh is getting better. Yes, Tom's not. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I agree. We gotta take a break. I'm off the

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Speaker 1: rails here, man. I was just telling me take a

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Speaker 1: deep break because I'm one Bills drive. I'm still in

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Speaker 1: a bad hang in there with me, presented by a

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Speaker 1: lot of Health from the Seneca Studio in Archard Park

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio the afternoon had won goes five,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker. Coming up at one o'clock,

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Speaker 1: Field Yates from ESPN NFL insider Field Yates Joe Thomas,

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Speaker 1: former Brown's offensive lineman now ah NFL analyst, joins us

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Speaker 1: at two. Bills added a specialist to their roster yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Kicker Corey Benvick is signed as a reserved future free agent.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five years old. He has kicked, d in punted

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Had a punter workout with the Bills

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Speaker 1: last month. Born in Norway began his NFL career as

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Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie with Baltimore in twenty eighteen. He was

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Speaker 1: on Minnesota's offseason roster last year, played in the preseason

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Speaker 1: game here at Buffalo, was cut, lost the kicking competition

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota to Dan Bailey, signed by the Jets to

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Speaker 1: kick right before the season opened, but missed an extra

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Speaker 1: point and a field goal in Week one lost to

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Speaker 1: the Bills. Later release Corey Vedvick. They're on the left

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Speaker 1: is now a Buffalo Bill signed as a reserved future

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Speaker 1: free agent. There, you got amaze. We a video of

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Speaker 1: them to tell you, I know how bad crack staff.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of kind of in the picture. We got it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got Corey Vedvick good. You know, absolutely, I forgot

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Speaker 1: about the Week one to Bacle that cost them the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's obviously, you know, he's probably got a big

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Speaker 1: leg yep, you know, which is why these guys get

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Speaker 1: get picked up and drafted and traded for and all

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Speaker 1: of that. But consistency is the name of the game.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, that was a that remember back in that

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Speaker 1: I've never been around an atmosphere in the league where

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Speaker 1: so many kickers have been shuffled around and tossed to

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Speaker 1: the curb and resigned and switched teams and traded even

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what happened to Veedveg. He got traded

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Speaker 1: and it's crazy and it all started and I've heard

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Speaker 1: guys talk about it when they lengthened the extra point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it really messed with their minds. Yes, there's no more gimmes.

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Speaker 1: There's no easy kicks, no gimmes. Even even now, the

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Speaker 1: short field goals that are shorter than the extra point,

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Speaker 1: they're not you know what I mean, They're just so

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Speaker 1: much you know, uncertainty about it. It's amazing. They just

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Speaker 1: don't get any free freebees anymore. House get finished strong,

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Speaker 1: But there was a point where he was a question mark,

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Speaker 1: right the Bills brought on some kickers after the Dallas game.

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Speaker 1: It worked him out to see how they would do

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Speaker 1: Stephen Houska, and they stayed with Houska. I'm sure they

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Speaker 1: glad they did because he was reliable, especially in the

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Speaker 1: wild card playoff game at Houston last Saturday. But even

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Speaker 1: house Cut, you know, kind of faltered a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So Corey Vedwick is here. He's with the Buffalo Bills. Now.

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Speaker 1: Our question of the day do you expect the Bills

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Speaker 1: to win the AFC East in twenty twenty? What do

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Speaker 1: you think? Eight three fifty toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty John and Tonawanda, Hello John,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air with Let's go ahead. Yes, thanks,

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Speaker 1: we're friend step for having me on. Sure you bet.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, I don't think there's any way

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Speaker 1: we're going to win next year if Josh Allen doesn't

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Speaker 1: improve on fifty five percent of his passes, which are

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Speaker 1: either too long, too short, too high, or too low.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the completions you meet I'm talking about,

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Speaker 1: we would have won easily thirteen fourteen games this year.

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Speaker 1: If what if, if Josh Allen would have been more accurate, Well,

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Speaker 1: how much more accurate would he be have to be

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Speaker 1: to get to thirteen or fourteen wins? Well? If you

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Speaker 1: look at what the passes I'm talking about, his incomplete passes,

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Speaker 1: fifty percent of them were either too long, too shart,

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Speaker 1: or too high or too low. How do you know this?

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Speaker 1: Because I watched all sixteen charted him. Every incompletion you

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Speaker 1: charted was too high, too low. I kept her record.

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Speaker 1: Let's take the one game where he had Brown opened

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Speaker 1: twice on the long wall, both times he overthrew him.

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Speaker 1: That's that would have been fourteen points in at one game. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So so what's your overall point, John, All overall point.

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Speaker 1: Unless josh Alon improves on his accuracy in his touch,

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Speaker 1: we're going nowhere. Well, I agree he's got him. I

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Speaker 1: don't agree, but go ahead. I mean, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: mean not that they're not going to go nowhere. I

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Speaker 1: think he will improve. I think he's working hard at

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Speaker 1: doing it. He's improved significantly this year. And there's no

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Speaker 1: question he's still got worked on his game. And I

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Speaker 1: mean everybody can see that. And uh, I don't think

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Speaker 1: that even with you know the fact that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's face it, they were in position to win a

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Speaker 1: wildcard game, win a playoff game this year and went

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs with ten wins. Um, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of things, and certainly you can point and you can

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Speaker 1: make a case for josh being the crux of maybe

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Speaker 1: what held them back at times this year. But I'll

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Speaker 1: say this too, Um, he's also a reason they won

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Speaker 1: ten games. So I don't think they're that far away, John,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's they're not gonna go nowhere next

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Speaker 1: year with Josh, you know, not improving. But I think

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Speaker 1: he will improve. And I'll agree with you. I think

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Speaker 1: if he improves a little bit, they're gonna get significantly better.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think Josh Allen. You're gonna sit there

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Speaker 1: and say Josh Allen's the reason they went nowhere. I

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Speaker 1: think he's the reason they went to the playoffs. I

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Speaker 1: think many games we watched this year, and we waited

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Speaker 1: three three quarters just about every game, ready to throw up,

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Speaker 1: and then we lift the guy standing at the polios.

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Speaker 1: It's all on me. I gotta get better. How many

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Speaker 1: more times you're gonna say that we had quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the league, that we're thirtain four stringers, that we're throwing better. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: you're wrong, John, let me just you're wrong. And Josh's

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Speaker 1: inaccuracy is an issue, but it's not the biggest issue

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Speaker 1: about Josh. I think, even if you go back to

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Speaker 1: is recently is his past Saturday, he was inaccurate at times,

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Speaker 1: but that wasn't his biggest problem. He kind of lost focus.

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Speaker 1: I think he kind of went off the rails a

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Speaker 1: little bit, making some bad decisions. That was The biggest

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Speaker 1: problem with Josh. His inaccuracy is documented, it's known, it

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Speaker 1: was much. He's much more accurate to passer issue than

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Speaker 1: it was a year ago, fifty eight percent. Did you say, Steve,

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Speaker 1: so I'd look for even continued improvement. But no, you're

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Speaker 1: wrong about that. Sorry, but you're wrong. What's your plan

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Speaker 1: of action? John? Should kick him to the curb and

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Speaker 1: start over. Oh not exact, No, it not at all.

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Speaker 1: If there ever was a guy that played for Buffalo

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Speaker 1: that I want to see excel and become a superstar

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Speaker 1: in his league, it's Josh Allen. It's just that I'm

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Speaker 1: so passionate about a guy that couldn't should by now

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Speaker 1: have improved on his accuracy? Noess, he did improve. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he did improve, John, He went from fifty three percent

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Speaker 1: to fifty eight almost fifty nine percent. What if he

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Speaker 1: makes another jump like that this next year, then this

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Speaker 1: is a team that I think is to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: next year unless he does improve on what I was

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Speaker 1: talking about. All right, well, okay, maybe I think if yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be good again next year. Even

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Speaker 1: if yeah, I mean, there's no question Josh needs to

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Speaker 1: get better, no question, uh, as of how far that

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Speaker 1: takes them next year. Will we have to wait and

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Speaker 1: see how they play against the schedule and the teams

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Speaker 1: they are next year and what happens in each and

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Speaker 1: every game. But uh yeah, I think Jeah Josh is

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Speaker 1: a guy who's who's gonna get better. He's trying to

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Speaker 1: get better. Um, we all are aware of that. But

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I don't know. I just it sounds to

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Speaker 1: me like you're disgusted with the progress that he's made

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Speaker 1: and aren't acknowledging how far he's come and don't have

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Speaker 1: any reason to think he's gonna go any further. Thanks

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00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: to your call, Hey, we got news. Uh no, I

636
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: guess he's wrong. He was. It made it sound like

637
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna next sound like he's gonna cut him. He

638
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: made it sound like we needed to cut him and

639
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: start over. I mean, come on, bro, he's wrong. Um,

640
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: I think he's wrong. I could be wrong too, but

641
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: I think he's wrong. This is new today. Bill Tierlink,

642
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: who's been the Bills defensive line coach for the last

643
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: couple of years, is leaving for the Buffalo Bills. He

644
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: has joined the staff of the Virginia Tech Hokies as

645
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: defensive line coach. He's going to be co defensive line coach.

646
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: They're working with the Daryl Trapp. So Bill Tierlink, who's

647
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: been three years with the Buffalo Bills, spent the first

648
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: year with the Bills as an assistant d line coach

649
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: and the last two as the head defensive line coach

650
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: for the Bills. Bill Tierlink is leaving Sean McDermott's staff.

651
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: So that's new and different, a little bit interesting, I think, yeah,

652
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: and I um yeah, that's I knew. The last yesterday

653
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott had said he didn't anticipate any changes to

654
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: his coaching staff, right obviously that you know with guys

655
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: taking jobs, and he's going to going to Virginia Tech

656
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: to coach the Hokies as their defensive line I guess

657
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: their defensive line coach. Maybe he's getting been yeah, deferenive

658
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: line coach. So um man, that's a personal decision. He

659
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: wanted a maker or whatever. But until yesterday Sean had

660
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: said he wasn't going to make any changes, So that

661
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: was knowing what we know. It sounds like it came

662
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: from Bill himself that he wanted to make that move.

663
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: Good for him and his family if that's the case.

664
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: And I was watching this a little bit yesterday and

665
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: I didn't see coach Tierlink in there. But our job

666
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: where our office is inside the field house around the

667
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: corner and we work in here in the studio, and

668
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: this time of year I've noticed over the last few years,

669
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's coaches who get jobs. Sometimes it's not.

670
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: You don't know what's going on, but every once in

671
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: a while coaches will take a phone call that they

672
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: can't take in their office and they'll take it in

673
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: the field house and they're walking around on the field

674
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: because it's kind of private. The field house is vast,

675
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: it's huge, and it does provide some privacy. I'll be

676
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: honest with Steve, I've done that a couple of times

677
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: with phone calls that I've taken walking out of the field.

678
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to take him ye too sure, But

679
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: it was just interesting. I did not see coach tier

680
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: Link doing that. But Bill Tierlink is leaving the Bills

681
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: to coach the defensive line co coach of Virginia, Texas

682
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: defensive line. Our topic today. Do you expect the Bills

683
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: will win the AFC East next year? What do you

684
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: think here's the call from Steve in Buffalo. Go ahead, Steve,

685
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: you around the air all high, Um, what's the last call?

686
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: I think what he was saying, it's kind of like

687
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: it's not so much as accuracy. I see where we

688
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: lost a couple of games. It's because, you know, like

689
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: how Lamar Jackson is matured to the point of where

690
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: he knows ball placement in the end zone, where Josh

691
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: Allen was concentrating on accuracy like in the game. But

692
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: against Baltimore, for example, when he threw it to Brown,

693
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: he threw it directly to him so that the defense

694
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: back could get it, kind of thrown away from him

695
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: so that he can only get it and he can

696
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: only be available. And the same thing happened with Dawson

697
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: Knox when he threw the ball he can overthrow him

698
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: to the point, but throw him at an angle so

699
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: that the defensive back can't get it. And against the

700
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: end zone, I think he has to practice debt the

701
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: ball play. He's trying to be too accurate in the

702
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: end zone. And I don't think that's the point. Well,

703
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Steve, let me just stop you right there.

704
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If you're gonna go back and look

705
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: at games that they like. There are the Bills were

706
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: ten and se even at the end of the season.

707
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: There are six of those games where if Josh would

708
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: have made two more throws they would have won. They

709
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: were in one score games. So if you're gonna go

710
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: back in that road, yes, Josh Allen is responsible for

711
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: six of the seven losses that they took because he

712
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: didn't make one or two throws throughout the course of

713
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: the game. They were in one score games for six

714
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: of the seven losses they had this year. So if

715
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: you want to go down that road, yes, Josh Allen

716
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: is responsible because he didn't make two extra throws or

717
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: two accurate throws over the top or whatever. That's the way.

718
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: That's the price you pay for playing quarterback in the

719
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: NFL and being on a team that is in seventeen

720
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: or sixteen of seventeen one score games. So yeah, yeah,

721
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: that's why quarterback is an important position. That's why it

722
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: takes forever to find the right guy. That's why you

723
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: need your guy who's taken snaps every play to be

724
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: as good as he can be because he has a

725
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: chance to win the game every snap, Particularly in a

726
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: team like this one where every single solitary game comes

727
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: down to one score, So you can go back over

728
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: it all you want hash it out, this angle, that angle,

729
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: this throw, that decision. Yeah, it all comes down to

730
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: one play. That's why we spent the last three days

731
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: going over a list of twenty things that could have

732
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: gone differently in the Houston game and they'd still be playing.

733
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: That's where you're at. And if there's one guy who

734
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: can make the biggest difference on the field, it's the quarterback.

735
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 1: And that's you can say all you want about they're

736
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: never going anywhere with him, or you have every confidence

737
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: that he's going to be the guy. Yeah, it's part

738
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: of what he signs up for, and what you sign

739
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: up for with a franchise quarterback. You're gonna have to

740
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: live and die with him, particularly in one score games.

741
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: Our question of the day has not been answered by anyone.

742
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: No one's interested in talking about it. Do you expect

743
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: the Bills to win the AFC East in twenty twenty? Instead,

744
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: it's become a Josh Allen referendum day. All right, Rich

745
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: and Williamsville, Hello, Rich, want to that's what the people want?

746
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: Steve give it to him. Go ahead, Rich, Well, first

747
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: of all, just answer your what you just said. I

748
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: do think the Bills are going to win the AFC's

749
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: next year. Thank you for he's pretending to care about

750
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: our questions. Well, and I just wanted to call and

751
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: talk about the fact that I don't I don't believe

752
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's an inaccurate quarterback. I think that people tend

753
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: to tend to mix up completion percentage with accuracy, and

754
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: they're not always the same thing. I think that he can,

755
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: he can hit a target. His issue, I believe is

756
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: anticipatory throwing and trusting his protection and trusting his targets.

757
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: And there's been a lot of a lot of turnover

758
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 1: in that regard. So I think that you can see

759
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: the progression um and I've got a lot of hope

760
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: in that. And I think that he's not an inaccurate pastor.

761
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 1: He shows, he shows glimpses, he shows greatness at time,

762
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: and then he struggles when when the defense kind of

763
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: counteracts his strength. So I think he's seen a lot now,

764
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: he's seen proper bullets fly in the playoffs, and I

765
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: think that his anticipation is going to improve and I

766
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: think that we will win the AFCs next year. All right,

767
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: thanks Rich And I'll tell you this. You can go

768
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: back and he took what a thousands Now, I don't

769
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: know how many snaps Josh Allen took, but he was

770
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: in the in there for every game. The only one

771
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: he didn't finish was the first New England game. Um

772
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: took every snap other than that and down a week seventeen,

773
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: I guess. But we've seen a ton of him, and

774
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: the more experience he gets, the better he's gonna get.

775
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: And and you can pick and choose different mistakes that

776
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: happen for every player, let alone the starting quarterback. Yeah,

777
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: this play, okay, was a bad decision. He should have

778
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: come off that and thrown here. Okay, Here it was

779
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: a bad throw. Here, he was trying to do too much.

780
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: Here he took a bad sack. You can go down

781
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: the list of mistakes that he made. And the simple

782
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is more and more and more

783
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to get to a point where he

784
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: makes fewer of those. And it's and my assertion today

785
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: to Murf earlier in the show was there's not that

786
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: many of those that were going to make a difference

787
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: this year, one or two of those a game and

788
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: the season is a very very different thing for the

789
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. That's how close the team is. And it's

790
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: easy to put it all on Josh Allen and say,

791
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: if he just did a B or C or a

792
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: B and C or whatever you want, whatever combination you

793
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: choose to and whatever variable as you want to add,

794
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: if he just did this, everything would be better. And

795
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: it may be true, but the simple fact of that

796
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: matters this. This season's gone, and he's gonna have to

797
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: get better next season and the team has to decide.

798
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: And I think we'll get to this in the off

799
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: season as well. We're gonna ask the fans what do

800
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: you think they can do to help him more? That's

801
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: what they're asking themselves, right, Yeah, they're asking who do

802
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: we all right, we need a big number one wide out,

803
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 1: All right, let's go get one. We need a little

804
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: bit better play on the offensive line, maybe a little

805
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: bit more consistent play. Okay, maybe we can upgrade instead

806
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: of having four new guys, Maybe there are one or

807
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: two guys that we can upgrade and keep the other

808
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: guys on the roster because they're still pretty good. Maybe

809
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,959
Speaker 1: we get better depth wising, more consistent play upfront. Maybe

810
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: we get a little bit better pass rush so that

811
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: we get a few more turnovers so that they can

812
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: give more opportunities for Josh. Maybe we get a backup

813
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: who's a more younger, fresher Frank Gore than Frank Gore

814
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: was in the second half of the seas. You know,

815
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: all these things that we can think of to help Josh.

816
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: That's the cruxt of everything that is now, because they're

817
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: not bailing on this guy. I mean, this is Josh

818
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: is the guy. They're gonna support him. Now. How do

819
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: they support They help him to get better in his

820
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: own game and give him the pieces and weapons and

821
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: roster around him to make it easier and widen his

822
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: margin of error. So all of that stuff is where

823
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: we're at. Now, what do we do to help him?

824
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: How does he get better? And I think most of

825
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: what he can do to get better now is just

826
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: more of the same. Fewer mistakes, fewer bad plays, fewer

827
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: bad sacks, one or two more accurate throws a game

828
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: and hitting on a deep ball now and then you

829
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, that's it, and that's

830
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: how close they are now. Certainly, next season, we may

831
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: be in seventeen games and every single one of them

832
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: is decided by double digits, right, I mean, we don't know,

833
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: but for this year, it certainly seems obviously they were

834
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: very very close to being a very very good team,

835
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: and it's those little inconsistencies and those missed plays, those

836
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: missed opportunities. A lot of that point the spotlight goes

837
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: on the quarterback, and that's the only thing that kept

838
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: them from being a real contender for a Super Bowl.

839
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean, because they were that close, they were tough

840
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: to beat by everybody, even the best teams. So that's

841
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: pretty frustrating. All right, that's encouraging too, right, Yeah, yeah,

842
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean encouraged. As we sit here, I'm like, you

843
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: know what, We're not that far, but man, oh man,

844
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: come on, all right, we'll take a break for coming back.

845
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: Do you expect the Bills to win the division next season?

846
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call. It's One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalada Health from the Asseneca Studio

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Speaker 1: in Archard Park. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Well, here

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Speaker 1: we go One Bill's Live. John Murphy, Steve Tasker taking

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Speaker 1: your phone calls, building the calls, talking to people about

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Speaker 1: what they think about the Bills. I'm doing a little

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Speaker 1: self therapy here. I'm ranting about every segment just to

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Speaker 1: get what you got this segment. I don't know somebody

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Speaker 1: else set me off. I'm completely off the rail. I

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Speaker 1: got a question on the table with the Bills win

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Speaker 1: the AFC East next year? What do you think? But

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Speaker 1: we got people want to talk about other things. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to John in Florida. Hello, John, you're on the air. Oh, thanks, guys,

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Speaker 1: two things, Huck. Yes, we are going to win the

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Speaker 1: AFC East, and I agree with you, Murph. We should

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Speaker 1: have won three weeks ago. Yeah, I still can't when

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Speaker 1: we went ahead seventeen thirteen. You know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how they lost. But I went to this pass game

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, and my seats were around the fifteen yard

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Speaker 1: line and the play I can't get out of my

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Speaker 1: head was the first down from the forty three to

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Speaker 1: sweep with Josh Allen. Yeah. Oh, we had three linemen

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Speaker 1: there and they let the comingham come in because where

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Speaker 1: my seats were, we would have won the game. He

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Speaker 1: had twenty yards of free salad. I can't get to

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Speaker 1: sleep at night. Yep. I'll tell you what. Zach Cunningham

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Speaker 1: is a good player. He's undersized, the number forty one,

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Speaker 1: he wears a safety's number. He's a really good player

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Speaker 1: for the Houston Texas. It's also the point. It's also

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Speaker 1: one of those points. It's the same if people don't

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Speaker 1: know what you're talking about's the same play where the

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Speaker 1: guy he Cunningham hit josh Al with the top of

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Speaker 1: his head and they think it should have been a

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Speaker 1: hit to the head. He go hit to the head.

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Speaker 1: That's the exact player you're talking about. And and you're right.

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Speaker 1: Three guys just absolutely ran right by the guy, let

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Speaker 1: him go. And it's just I gotta tall. That's football, man,

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Speaker 1: that's football. It's hard to watch. That's hard to that's

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Speaker 1: a bummer, but I agree. Thanks for your call. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to brand in Rochester. Hello, Brad, you're on the

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Speaker 1: air with us. Hey, guys, No way Buffalo wins the

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Speaker 1: division next year, not until Brady retires if he does retire.

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Speaker 1: Why won twelve games? Because they won twelve games this

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Speaker 1: year with a team that one of the worst teams

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Speaker 1: he's had in a decade. Obviously, they still won twelve games.

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Speaker 1: Next year's schedule is brutal. Um, there's a snow way.

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Speaker 1: We didn't beat him this year right in New England

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Speaker 1: miss year Yep, Bills finished two games behind and they

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Speaker 1: lost both games to him. So if they get a

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Speaker 1: split there, then you got a time and then they

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Speaker 1: might win. Um, but I don't is Brady really the

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Speaker 1: factor in their twelve wins this year? And I'm agreeing

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Speaker 1: with Steve a little bit. And I'm not saying he

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Speaker 1: stunk this year. He didn't stink, But was he the

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Speaker 1: reason why they won twelve games? He just commands the offense,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just the guy until until they like lose

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Speaker 1: less than twelve games. I mean, I mean they win twelve.

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Speaker 1: No matter what they were, they weren't that good this year,

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Speaker 1: they still won twelve games. Yeah, I agree. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're hard to be and I think I think Bill

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Speaker 1: is the key, not Tom. And I said Tom Brady stunk.

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Speaker 1: I was exaggerating, obviously to make a point, but because

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Speaker 1: he's not the same guy he has been, and he

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Speaker 1: seems to begin even year over year the last two

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Speaker 1: or three years, he's gotten worse and worse and worse.

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Speaker 1: And I'm my point is, I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: further he can go down before they know whatever, bench

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Speaker 1: him or whatever. But you I'm kind of like, I

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Speaker 1: kind of like, just see a forty three year old

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Speaker 1: guy try and keep up. It's almost the point now

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Speaker 1: with Tom that he might be the guy you want

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Speaker 1: in there, because if you get a younger, fresher guy

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Speaker 1: who can run, if they pull out, you know, and

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Speaker 1: they go get a guy like a two attack of

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Speaker 1: Aloa or some young guy who can really play, they

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Speaker 1: may get right back to thirteen fourteen wins a season.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they did it with smoke and mirrors

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Speaker 1: this year that they got to twelve in wins. Twelve,

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Speaker 1: that's not going to change no matter who's taking snaps,

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Speaker 1: I think. Okay, so even soul, Okay, say Brady's gone,

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Speaker 1: you still got Dollichack. And I still think they win

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Speaker 1: the division. For what you just said, I think they

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Speaker 1: castle out there and they won the division that year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's tough. And the other thing is this,

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Speaker 1: as far as like losing close games, there's there's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of teams that lose close games every year and

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Speaker 1: still come out with six state wins, and they just

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Speaker 1: never improved. It's just it's there's always a game. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna have one or two plays to decide a game.

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Speaker 1: It's not just Buffalo. It's lost because a couple of

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Speaker 1: plays a game, couple throws a game, or something like that.

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Speaker 1: And I was a big Josh Allen supporter when he

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Speaker 1: drafted him. I was very happy he did. But I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I just don't see the actors. Do you get anybotter?

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Speaker 1: And I'm nervous that he's not going to pan out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not that nervous. I think he's gotten a lot better.

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Speaker 1: But I'm with you. You can make that case too.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that everybody always does is

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Speaker 1: how is this team in one score games? How is

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Speaker 1: that team in one score games? Some teams are really

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Speaker 1: good in those moments, and some teams are not. The

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Speaker 1: Bills were pretty good this year. They were ten and six.

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Speaker 1: I think they had what fourteen or their sixteen games

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Speaker 1: or fourteen, you know they were. They were in a

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Speaker 1: lot of one score games, and they were pretty good

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Speaker 1: in those games. And I think that speaks to the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff and the players and the mentality and the

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Speaker 1: and the culture. A little bit now, That doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: it's going to carry through the next year. But I

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Speaker 1: think this year they were really tough in in one

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Speaker 1: score games. They got used to playing in him and

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Speaker 1: that's the way they were built. They did it early

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Speaker 1: on in the season, they got used to it, and

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Speaker 1: they seemed to thrive in those moments. Uh certainly too.

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Speaker 1: It's how they were built. They were built to, you know,

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Speaker 1: to win low scoring games, and those games are always tight.

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Speaker 1: If he had the receiving corps that they gave Alan

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Speaker 1: this year with Cole Beasley and Brown, um, if it's

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Speaker 1: if Taylor had those receivers his last year here, because

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Speaker 1: they neutered Taylor Williams here, they got her baller receivers

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Speaker 1: who they have Andre Holmes, Brandon Tate, they brought him

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Speaker 1: Benjamin at the end. I mean, he had nobody to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball too, and and that's why he struggled.

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Speaker 1: I think if Taylor had the receivers that Allen had

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Speaker 1: this year, I think, wait a minute, you're you're telling

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Speaker 1: me you like Tyrod Taylor better than Josh Allen. If

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Speaker 1: if Taylor, like I said, when Taylor ed Watkinson Woods

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Speaker 1: Bear he made the Pro Bowl, he played pretty good

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Speaker 1: Taylor throws a better deep ball than Allen. Taylor threw

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Speaker 1: a pretty deep ball, and any leave the league in

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Speaker 1: forty yard bombs. The year he made the Taylor they

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Speaker 1: have a good final year because they took away Watkins

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Speaker 1: would and he set him up with no receivers and

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Speaker 1: they happen to win enough games to get into playoffs

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Speaker 1: that year. If Taylor had these receivers this year, he'd

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Speaker 1: be better than all And I think he's more accurate

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Speaker 1: than Ellen. And he's just exact. Whytic as Ellen, he's

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Speaker 1: just smaller. Well, here's the things. He is more accurate,

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Speaker 1: maybe than than Josh Allen. Here's the problem. Tyrod wouldn't

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Speaker 1: let it go. You forget. Tyrod wouldn't throw it. Tyrod

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Speaker 1: would not throw the pass on time. And I'm I mean,

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Speaker 1: you were going along pretty well until you went down

988
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Speaker 1: that road. I think you're crazy if you're gonna go

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Speaker 1: back and think Tyrod Taylor is a better answer than

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I get it every so often on Twitter,

991
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Speaker 1: and the fact that it's on Twitter should should tell

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Speaker 1: you something. Somebody will say, yeah, his stats are one

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Speaker 1: lost record, and they'll compare him to the two guys

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Tyrod. I just don't think there's any comparison.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just don't take a break. We're coming

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Speaker 1: back for more. We Think One Goes Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Collida Health. Field Yates joins us when we return, maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll get some sense out of him. Bild Yates joins

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Speaker 1: us from ESPN NFL Insider. Field Yates's One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio on Archard Park on Buffalo Bills Radio,

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Speaker 1: Hello Hills Radio Network. Sports update update from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: The Bills have a vacancy on their coaching staff all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden. Bill Tierlink, who's been the defensive line

1004
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: coach for the last two years, has decided to leave.

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Speaker 1: He is going to join Virginia Tech as their defensive

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Speaker 1: line coach. He will co coach the defensive line for

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Speaker 1: the Hokies, working with Daryl Trapp. He is reunited with

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Speaker 1: head coach Justin Fuente, with whom he worked in his

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Speaker 1: past at Illinois State defensive line coach there in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and five and two thousand and six. Bill Tierlak

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Speaker 1: has been with the Bills for the last three years,

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Speaker 1: the last two as defensive line coach. He was assistant

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Speaker 1: d line coach before that. Aaron Whitecotton stays on the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo stafford now he is assistant defensive line coaches. Past year.

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Speaker 1: Bills out of a specialist of their offseason roster yesterday

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Speaker 1: signing kicker punter Corey Benwick, a reserve future free agent

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Speaker 1: twenty five years old. He has kicked and punted in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Had a punter workout with the Bills last month.

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Speaker 1: NFL has seven of eight remaining clubs in contention for

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Speaker 1: the Lombardi Trophy, and they were not in the divisional

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Speaker 1: playoffs last year. The only one who was was the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. That's the largest year to year turnover

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Speaker 1: for the divisional round since nineteen ninety, when the current

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Speaker 1: twelve team playoff format was instituted. So it's Minnesota at

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Speaker 1: San Francisco for thirty five on Saturday, followed by Tennessee

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore on Sunday, Houston in Kansas City at three

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Speaker 1: oh five, followed by Seattle at Green Bay. Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: says in the immediate aftermath of Sunday's playoff lost to Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: he thought it was unlikely he would retire. In an

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Speaker 1: Instagram post today, Brady wrote, I know I still have

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Speaker 1: more to prove, indicating that he probably intends on returning

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Speaker 1: to play. Coaching news, The Ravens have signed Vetter. This

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Speaker 1: is not coaching news. The Ravens have signed veteran offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle Andre Smith, who spent most of his career with Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is coaching news. Mike McCarthy filling out his staff.

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Speaker 1: According to sources, Kellen Moore expected to remain as the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys offensive coordinator, John Fossil expected to be special teams coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Jim Tomasulo expected to be the defensive line coach, and

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Speaker 1: the Sabers called up defenseman Lawrence Pilot from the Rochester

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Speaker 1: Americans in the AJO yesterday. Sabers playing at Saint Louis tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, steam

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Speaker 1: tasker in our one Buffalo Studio, our Seneca Buffalo Studio

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Speaker 1: and joining us on the line right now. ESPN NFL Insider,

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Speaker 1: the host of the fantasy focused football podcast Our guests Field,

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Speaker 1: Yates Field, How are you today, Good to talk to you?

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Speaker 1: Doing great, guys? How are you this wonderful but chilly

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Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon. We're trying to put the events of last

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Speaker 1: Saturday behind us, and I've had no cooperation from very

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Speaker 1: little cooperation from Steve Tasker and absolutely no cooperation from

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Speaker 1: the calls helped me put that game behind this police field.

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Speaker 1: We've got to move ahead. What do you think of

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Speaker 1: the game. It's a tough one. It's a tough pill

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Speaker 1: of swallow, just because football and opportunities are fleeting. If

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Speaker 1: there's a way to do it, though, it's by looking forward.

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00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: Looking ahead to a team that has a quarterback that

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00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: just completed his second year and I thought made tremendous strides.

1057
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: Looking at an organization that in recent draft classes has

1058
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: put together the core of this roster three years ago

1059
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: with Dredavious White and Dion Dawkins and Matt Milano and

1060
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: Oliver from this year's class, Devin Singletary from this year's class,

1061
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: And look at the free agent track record Brandon Bean

1062
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: in free agency this past off season landed the likes

1063
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: of John Brown and Cole Beasley and John Feliciano, just

1064
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: to name a few. Mitch Morse as well, and Frank Gore,

1065
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: Tyler Croft, Dawson Knox also part of that rookie class.

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00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: I know these names are all familiar, but that's the promise.

1067
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: That's the hope, is that you've got a roster with

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00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: talent already, You've got a front office and a coaching

1069
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: staff that are aligned and really know what they're doing.

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00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: Give us a big picture. Josh Allen sophomore year notable strides, Certainly,

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00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: still some areas to improve upon. We've used this word

1072
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: a lot when we've talked on Wednesdays throughout the season. Consistency, right,

1073
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: It's being consistent more week to week and then avoiding

1074
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: the catastrophic errors. And sometimes those are interceptions. You know,

1075
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: this past Saturday, you know, I thought, for example, a

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00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: play that's Josh will mature and grow out of is

1077
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: scrambling and then at the end of the play trying

1078
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: to sort of shovel the football to a teammate to

1079
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: pick up a few extra yards. Those are the kind

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00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: of plays that Josh will realize sometimes living to see

1081
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: other down is the most important thing for a quarterback.

1082
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: And I just think tightening up a little bit of

1083
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: the consistency year in and excuse me, weekend and week out,

1084
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: we'll take Josh from where he was this year which

1085
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: is a quarterback unquestionably onto the rise to a true

1086
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback and field. I see what you're saying. And

1087
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: yet we still have callers the first hour today's show

1088
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: talking about his accuracy as an issue. And I know

1089
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: he's not the most accurate passer, but he made important

1090
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: strides in that direction this year. I don't see that

1091
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: as the biggest drawback to Josh Allen's performance, do you No,

1092
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't, And I'm gonna say this, Murph. I think

1093
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: I've realized this a lot in just following sports, not

1094
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: even just the NFL, not even specific to the Bills,

1095
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: but when you have excellence in the NFL or in

1096
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: the NBA or whatever sport it is, people use that

1097
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 1: player as a measuring stick. So this year, basically, anybody

1098
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: who's not Lamar Jackson is going to be less than satisfactory.

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00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: And you know, I know that all of the coverage

1100
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: that we give the NFL, and certainly ESPN has plenty

1101
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: of ESPN plenty of coverage on Lamar Jackson does nothing

1102
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: to hide his ability from fans who wish they had him.

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00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: At the same time, like, you know what, Josh Allen

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00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: is not Lamar Jackson. But he's a player that brings

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00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: a ton to the table and could eventually be a

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00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: guy that's going to the Pro Bowl every single year.

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00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: Right now is not Lamar Jackson, but Lamar Jacksons playing

1108
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: for Baltimore and the Bills at things that the Ravens

1109
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: might nods. And I think that the accuracy is something

1110
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: that you know in Josh. Unless Josh becomes Drew Brees,

1111
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the crutch that naysayers point too. But

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00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: when the Bills are winning ten plus games a year

1113
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: for a long time. But I don't think anybody's going

1114
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: to be complaining about some college stats. What do you

1115
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 1: do if you're the Bills? How do you help Josh Allen?

1116
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: What do you do next? I think probably the most

1117
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: important thing for Josh, and this might be out of

1118
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: their control, is continuity. I think having you know, certainly

1119
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: the offensive line will be another focus this year. There

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00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: were guys that would were added on one year contracts

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00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: in free agency. That's either we're part of the picture

1122
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: this year, like John Feliciano or Quentin Spain I believe

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00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: it was a one year deal as well, or guys

1124
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: that never actually had the chance to play for them

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00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: in the regular season this year, like Agent and Waddle,

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00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: guys who maybe back, but the skill players look pretty

1127
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: good to me. I think, you know, could you add

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00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: another wide receiver with a bit more size, Sure, and

1129
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: maybe this is a good year to do it, but

1130
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: I thought that John Brown and Cole Beasley gave them plenty.

1131
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: William certainly had his moments, and then I think that

1132
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox is going to be a real player for

1133
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: them as well. So I think continuity is important, and

1134
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: that includes Brian day Ball, which who knows where the

1135
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: Browns will go with their coaching higher, but he's at

1136
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: least on their radar, and if he goes, then that's

1137
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: a pretty significant vacancy you've got to find a way

1138
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: to fill. With field Yates ESPN NFL Insider talking about

1139
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: the end of the Bill season, we'll get to the

1140
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: rest of the playoffs at a moment. Brandon Bean said

1141
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: yesterday that he believes the Bills are more than one player,

1142
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: not just one player away from contending for a championship,

1143
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: and I think that's smart. But as Steve has pointed out,

1144
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: my partner here next to me, it'll take some really

1145
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: interesting move by the Bills and maybe some specifically targeted

1146
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: free agency moves to fill out what they need, especially

1147
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. Do you agree, Yeah,

1148
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: I think so. Playmakers probably can never have enough of

1149
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: those rights. And Frank Or is going to be a

1150
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: free agent this offseason, and I think the question for

1151
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: the Bills in the backfield is do you bring Frank back?

1152
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: Obviously brought a ton to the locker room, but do

1153
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: you bring Frank back? And if you don't, I still

1154
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: think you have to add at least one more body

1155
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: because it's hard to find any running back that's equipped

1156
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: to play ninety five percent of the snaps consistently. It's

1157
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: part of what makes a guy like Christian McCaffrey is

1158
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: so unique. But Devin Singletary is also what you know,

1159
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: five eight right, I mean one hundred and ninety five

1160
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds. I don't know that he's the kind

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00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: of running back the stature wise you want playing seventy

1162
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: eighty percent of your snaps weekend and week out. So

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00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance that running back could

1164
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: be maybe not the most obvious need upfront, but a

1165
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: need to help compliment Devin Singletary. I'm not saying replaced

1166
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, but compliment him. And then I think defensively,

1167
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's a matter of what happens with Jordan Phillips,

1168
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: who had just an incredible year this year for them,

1169
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: Russian the passer, and then do you need one more

1170
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: edge guy? And you know, I think it was Sean mcdermom.

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00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it was Brandon Bean who said yesterday and listen,

1172
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: these edge pass rushers, like, there's hardly thirty two of

1173
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: them you can count on to the entire league. So

1174
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: it's not like there's even one for each team to

1175
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: go around. But if you can find one, it certainly

1176
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: goes a long way, you know. And the Bill's defense

1177
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: was really the building block of the entire ten win season.

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00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they kept them in every game that year.

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00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: This year they might lose Jordan Phillips, might lose Shack Lawson,

1180
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: and those are significant losses up front for a team

1181
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: that rotated you know, seven or eight defensive lineman through there.

1182
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: What do you see? How can this defense sustain itself

1183
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: going forward? Yeah? I think it can. And I think

1184
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: that part of what you saw with Jordan especially is

1185
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: that this system. I'm not saying it made him right,

1186
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 1: but what the Bill showed is that they can extra

1187
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: rack the maximum value out of a player based on

1188
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: how they play defense. And Jordan certainly had some ability

1189
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: coming into the NFL, but that really was tapped into

1190
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: by the Bills and what they're able to get out

1191
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: of him this year. And some of the guys they

1192
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: have in the pipeline. A Harrison Phillip player like that

1193
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: who I think we'll see back and pull force, someone

1194
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: like that can be maybe not a plug and play,

1195
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: but at least a defensive lineman that can add some

1196
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: snaps for them next year. And then with Shaq too,

1197
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: you know that's a guy whose career has it hasn't

1198
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: been It hasn't been linear, right like, there have been

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00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: some up and down moments, but I think most recently

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00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: you've seen him better under this scheme or within this scheme,

1201
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: and I think that's a testament to what the defense

1202
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: is able to do. So certainly looking forward to seeing

1203
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: how things play out in free agency. And the Bills

1204
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: do that money to spend, but they've also got some

1205
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: good players are nowledge able to get paid, like Turnabous Whites,

1206
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: Matt Milano and Dion Dawkins others were with Field Yates

1207
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: from ESPN, I have one more question about the Bills

1208
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: for you, Field, and that's a tweet that you authored

1209
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 1: about Lorenzo Alexander who retires, goes off into the sunset. Now.

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01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: I know he's up for the Walter Peyton Man of

1211
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: the Year the league wide on or now. I hope

1212
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: he wins it because I think people should recognize what

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01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: a tremendous force he's been as a player on the field, yes,

1214
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: but just as a really solid citizen everywhere he's been,

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01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: but especially here in Buffalo the last four years. This

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01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,439
Speaker 1: guy has really made a difference in the community. Yeah,

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01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 1: he has made an incredible difference in the community. I think,

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01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of people locally in

1219
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo probably understand what he means to Western New York,

1220
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: but hopefully those across the NFL landscape me understand just

1221
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: how much Lorenzo has meant to the entire community. Maybe

1222
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: Bills fans know this, but maybe those who aren't as

1223
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: maybe tuned in day to day, don't know this. But

1224
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: the one man Yang ninety seven Twitter handle from Lorenzo

1225
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: stems back to when early in his career, he was

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01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: basically playing whatever position they told him to to find

1227
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: a way to stick around as he was scraping for

1228
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: a roster spot and DC with the Redskins, that meant

1229
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: defensive tackle for a while. It may not seems crazy now.

1230
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: He was two undred and ninety pounds for a while

1231
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: was Lorenzo guy who was playing as an undersized three

1232
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: technique and played some outside lineback or played fullback like

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01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: tight ends, you name it. He was willing to do it.

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01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: And football is given. I think each of us certainly

1235
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: a lot in our lives. Steve played the game at

1236
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: the highest of levels. Murph, you and I have been

1237
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: a part of it now for a long time, and

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01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: I think part of what makes football so special to

1239
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: all of us, maybe the biggest part is the people.

1240
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: And Lorenzo Alexander's the kind of person that you would

1241
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: be proud to call a teammate, you would be proud

1242
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: to call somebody you covered. You'd just be proud to know.

1243
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: He is as class as class gets. And really hope

1244
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: that retirement treats him as well as his entire football

1245
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: career did especialties final four years where you really blossom

1246
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. It's really well said. Yep, And I'm not

1247
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: right about a lot of things, but I was right

1248
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: about Wildcard weekend. And it's always been my contention that

1249
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: Wildcard weekend is the best and most exciting football of

1250
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: the year because both teams scratch and claw to get

1251
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: into the playoffs, and they play that way on Saturday

1252
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: and Sunday this last week. Conversely, I hope I'm not

1253
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: right about what I usually say about Divisional Round. You

1254
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: get these teams that are just spent, the Vikings, the Titans,

1255
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,959
Speaker 1: the Texans, the Seahawks, who just won these incredibly nail

1256
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: biting games, are going into play the best teams left

1257
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: in the league who have been on rest for two weeks,

1258
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get crushed. So I always think Divisional

1259
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: Round playoff is like the worst weekend of the of

1260
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: the league's year. It's a fair point. It's been six years,

1261
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: six straight seasons that the Super Bowl has been represented

1262
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: by both an AFC and an NFC team that had

1263
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: a first round by Think about that. The last twelve

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Speaker 1: teams that play in the Super Bowl all had to

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Speaker 1: buy in the first round. It just tells you how

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Speaker 1: hard it is to win three straight games just to

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Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl. It's incredibly tough. Not only

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Speaker 1: is it the top of the mountain in terms of

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Speaker 1: the food chain, in terms of the players and the

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Speaker 1: teams involved, but the emotional horsepower. And I'm not blaming

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Speaker 1: the Vikings for cheering and celebrate them that win like

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Speaker 1: they did, but just think about the emotional comedown they

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Speaker 1: probably had at some point late Sunday night or Monday

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Speaker 1: morning that you know what they have to do. They

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Speaker 1: have to start preparing for the next team, for the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers, you know, the most dominant team in

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Speaker 1: the conference this year, a team that is going to

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Speaker 1: be incredibly formidable. Like I think, it's a real chat

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Speaker 1: challenge for them to have to find a way to

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Speaker 1: replenish the gas tank and then give it their best.

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Speaker 1: And if they do that, that means they're going to

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Speaker 1: either Green Bay were Seattle the following week. It's an

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Speaker 1: incredible challenge for any team that plays in Wildcard Weekend.

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Speaker 1: I do hope for some competitive games, and I am

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Speaker 1: actually optimistic we'll have at least one or two of them. Well,

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Speaker 1: one of the good games is Tennessee at Baltimore, Saturday night,

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Speaker 1: eight fifteen, and you had another interesting tweet this week

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Speaker 1: and maybe it was today about Lamar Jackson and we

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Speaker 1: kind of, if it's possible, we overlook how good he's

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Speaker 1: been at such a young, tender age already in the NFL. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's funny, and people push back on the like what

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Speaker 1: does age matter? It's all about how many opportunities he's had.

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Speaker 1: I had something to the effect of that with Tremaine

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Speaker 1: Edmonds as well, and and say, you know something like

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Speaker 1: think about where you were at the age of twenty

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Speaker 1: or twenty one, or twenty two or twenty three, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean for Lamar Jackson to have accomplished as much

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Speaker 1: as he has at the age of twenty three, to

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Speaker 1: be a shoe in MVP. Thirty six passing touchdowns this year,

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Speaker 1: over a thousand, actually over twelve hundred rushing yards, the

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Speaker 1: most ever by a quarterback in a single season. And

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Speaker 1: I was just sort of thinking about this as we

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Speaker 1: get ready for mock draft season ahead. Is that as

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Speaker 1: good as you think a player is? Like, did anybody

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Speaker 1: envision Lamar Jackson being this good this soon? And I

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Speaker 1: think the answer is clearly no, because the guy went

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds overall, and every NFL team had a chance

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Speaker 1: to draft him and passed on him, including the Ravens

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Speaker 1: once themselves. He has exceeded expectations and it's a true

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Speaker 1: testament is just how special the guy he is. I agree,

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Speaker 1: and it's been It's been an amazing run. And I

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Speaker 1: think one of the things that benefited him was as

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Speaker 1: as you can say this about any drafted player, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, all the guys who were drafted ahead of him,

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Speaker 1: and Pat Mahomes and going to Kansas City three years ago,

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Speaker 1: going where he went was a huge benefit because John

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Speaker 1: Harrorball was a kind of coach who had the cache

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Speaker 1: to say, hey, we're all in with this guy. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna build our offense around him. We're to do things differently,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna run the football first, and we're gonna play defensive.

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Speaker 1: You know, they just transformed and kind of had a

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Speaker 1: paradigm shift. So all that stuff together, it is a

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Speaker 1: lot about Lamar Jackson, There's no question about it. But

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Speaker 1: a lot of it too is having an organization that

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Speaker 1: was willing to go all in with him. Quarterback play

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Speaker 1: is context. I say that all the time and you

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Speaker 1: look at quarterbacks that have landed in the right spots

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Speaker 1: or quarterbacks that have landed in the wrong spots, and

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Speaker 1: it can make a huge difference. And I'm not by

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Speaker 1: the way you can say that, and also presents a

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Speaker 1: ton of credit because Lamar Jackson is rare, he has rare,

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Speaker 1: rare abilities. But I do I totally agree with you,

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Speaker 1: Steve that it's a great situation for him. And maybe

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Speaker 1: some of the things that Lamar struggles with, or maybe

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Speaker 1: some of the things that Josh Allen struggles with, would

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Speaker 1: be highlighted more if he were somewhere else. But it's

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Speaker 1: a testament to these organizations. It's actually how I feel

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Speaker 1: in some ways about these coaching hires, as we're all

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Speaker 1: sitting here grading coaching hires as if it's a or

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Speaker 1: gone conclusion how everything will shake out. Well, remember that

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Speaker 1: a lot of these coaching hires, like think about someone

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Speaker 1: like Mike McCarthy. A year ago, he gets kicked to

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Speaker 1: the camp should the curb by the by the packers,

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Speaker 1: and everybody's saying, Ah, this guy's you know, spent, he's

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Speaker 1: old news. Well, how about the fact that he's now

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Speaker 1: walking to the Cowboys organization that has as much talent

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Speaker 1: as any team that changed head coaches this offseason. I

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Speaker 1: think if we're having this exact same conversation a year

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Speaker 1: from now, we are saying that the best hire of

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Speaker 1: last offseason, meaning this year, was Mike McCarthy, because they've

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Speaker 1: got a great chance to win. So context is always

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Speaker 1: important in both quarterbacks and coaches. With field gates of

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Speaker 1: ESPN a playoff game this weekend, I got to get

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Speaker 1: you your thoughts on fields the other AFC game, the

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Speaker 1: Texans at Kansas City looked. I know, the Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: beating him pretty handily, what by thirteen points back in

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Speaker 1: Week six. I just think the Kansas City Chiefs are

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Speaker 1: far and away a much better team than Houston. What

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Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah? On that, I thought if there

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Speaker 1: was some magic in the stadium this past weekend for

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Speaker 1: the Texans, and I thought the emotion of JJ watts

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Speaker 1: return and certainly Deshaun Watson's special plays was sort of

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Speaker 1: the difference between wins and losses for the Texans. And

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Speaker 1: You're right, it's such a different team compared to where

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Speaker 1: they were against Kansas City the last time around. The

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Speaker 1: Chiefs have been much improved defensively. One narrative not buying

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Speaker 1: into is that no one's talking about the chief because

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Speaker 1: we've all been like for a month. All I've heard

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Speaker 1: is everybody's saying, no one's talking about the Chiefs. Well,

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Speaker 1: if everybody is saying that no one's talking about the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: then everybody is in fact talking about the Chiefs. So

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody is overlooking the Chiefs right now.

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Speaker 1: They're a very formidable team, and offensively they're explosive as

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Speaker 1: we know, but defensively they're much improved. Just to how

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Speaker 1: those two teams shape up or match up on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: you just reminded me that Yogi Barratt is nobody goes

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Speaker 1: there anymore. It's too crowded, right right, Well, at the

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Speaker 1: four games this weekend, the one in San Francisco, in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City, in Green Bay, which road team has

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Speaker 1: the best chance of walking out with a win? I

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Speaker 1: think it's Seattle. And I think that because if you

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Speaker 1: look at these two teams, and I know that the

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Speaker 1: season is pretty short, sixteen games, but those are the

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Speaker 1: two teams that scraped by right. The Packers had the

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Speaker 1: most wins against teams with a winning record this year.

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Speaker 1: I believe they were eight and one, but they also

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Speaker 1: had this incredible you know, the twenty seven to eleven

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Speaker 1: loss to the Chargers, for example, like they had they

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01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: got smothered by the forty nine ers. The Packers off

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01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: days were really off. So I think it's probably the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks who somehow, some way always played close games. They

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Speaker 1: always played close games. It is remarkable how every single

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Speaker 1: game for them seems to come down to the final minute.

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Speaker 1: And I just mentioned some of the magic I thought

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Speaker 1: that sort of appeared on Saturday for the Texans. Well,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is almost a one man magic show himself.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be a great weekend. Field, Well, appreciate you spending

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Speaker 1: time with us today. Thank you very much. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Always great to catch up. Thank you, Field

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Speaker 1: Yates ESPN NFL inside of the hosts of their Fantasy

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01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: Focused Football podcast. He makes a good point, and you

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01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: make a good point too about Steve, about the division

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01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: around playoff games, how they tend not to live up

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Speaker 1: to the intensity, if nothing else about the wildcard games.

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Speaker 1: But I do think he's right. I do think Seattle

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01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: has a real chance to knock off green Bay This

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Speaker 1: this Sunday? Is that a Sunday? Yeah? And I for me,

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Speaker 1: when I see that, I say yes. And it's because

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Speaker 1: of Russell Wilson. It's because of Russell Wilson. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he is. What about DK Metcalf. They've got players, They're

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Speaker 1: a great team. They're a really good team. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they had to play on Wildcard weekend, I get it,

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Speaker 1: but they're really good football team and they're they're battle hard.

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Speaker 1: And this is a team that goes to playoffs all

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Speaker 1: the time. They know what it's like to be And

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Speaker 1: you can say what DK Metcalf's never been there, but listen,

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Speaker 1: this is a team that is used to playing in

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Speaker 1: the big moment. Pete Carroll's been to two Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's won one and lost another one. He knows

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Speaker 1: the pain of that as well. This is a team

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Speaker 1: that is experienced in big moments. Going into Green Bay

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Speaker 1: is not gonna phase them at all. And I know

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Speaker 1: Green Bay is a tough place to play. I get it.

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Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers. But I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: with Field Yates on this. I think the Seahawks are

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Speaker 1: one of those teams that they can go in anywhere

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01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: and not bat an eye. They'll they can win that

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Speaker 1: game in Green Bay. You know what else, nobody else, really,

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Speaker 1: nobody's talking about Jimmy Garoppolo in his first ever playoff game,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota at San Francisco Saturday at four thirty five. And

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Speaker 1: I understand the Vikings were kind of lucky to win

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Speaker 1: last week, and I understand they're going across the country

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Speaker 1: from one end of the country to the other to

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Speaker 1: play this week. So I get it why the Niners

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Speaker 1: would be big favorites. But I'm not convinced that Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: is a lock this this Saturday afternoon. I'm really confident

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Speaker 1: in the night at least, Yeah, I really. I mean

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Speaker 1: the defense, yes, and their defense is phenomenal. And Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins for all the stuff that happened this last weekend

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Speaker 1: that going into San Francisco this year, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: as a general rule or whatever, I'm saying this year,

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Speaker 1: this forty nine er team, I think they're gonna explode.

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Speaker 1: I think Kyle Shanahan's gonna have a big day. I

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Speaker 1: think he's been looking forward to a game like this

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Speaker 1: his entire career as a head coach in a home

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01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: playoff game for the forty nine ers. Jimmy Garoppolo has

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Speaker 1: been looking forward to this kind of game. I think

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01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 1: this is and they've been sitting for two weeks, resting

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01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: and waiting and getting freshened up for this game. I

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Speaker 1: think this is. This is the exact kind of game.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about, a divisional round, Murph, where it gets

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Speaker 1: out of hand. It could. That's what I think. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think they have a chance. I think Minnesota has

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01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: a chance, although I agree with you and the Niners.

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01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: If they win, I think will be because of their defense,

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01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: more Soyl than Garoppolo. All Right, we got a break,

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Speaker 1: We're coming back. We're gonna open up the phone lines

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Speaker 1: again with their question of the day. Do you expect

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Speaker 1: the Bills to win the AFC East in twenty twenty?

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Speaker 1: What do you think of it? Give us a call

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Speaker 1: eight o three five fifty to three one eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. We'll read something from the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet on that question as well. One Does Live

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Speaker 1: Let's you know we did. We fooled around the show.

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Speaker 1: We left a cracked open and people just rush to it.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna do that anymore. We're gonna take some

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Speaker 1: phone calls though maybe we reopened the crack. Question on

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Speaker 1: the table is do you expect the Bills win the

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01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: AFC East in twenty twenty? What do you think? Eight

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01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

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01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Somehow we got off on a

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01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: tangent about Josh Allen. Okay, take a few phone calls here,

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01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: Stephen Columbus, Hello, Hello, Stephen Columbus, how are you hi? Guys? Boy,

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01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: oh boy, I'm gonna help you out. Thank you. Who

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01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: spikes to juice up there? Wow? Yeah? Hi R Taylor? Uh? Okay.

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01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna answer the question. The Bills are gonna

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01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: win the AFA is very very strong chance for a

1481
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: couple of simple reasons. One is that a guy before

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about Brady Brady can be defenses in his

1483
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: fleet at the Steeds point. I mean, I played twenty years,

1484
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: so Josh is two years in. If you don't think

1485
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: Jock Allen, if one doesn't things get it by now

1486
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen's upside and talent level is off the chart.

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01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: My thing about and I think the basics actually is

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01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:38,480
Speaker 1: kind of rebuilding. They won because of Brady, I believe

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01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: I I just a little bit, Steve. I think they

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01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: won because of Brady because he didn't do it this sleep.

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01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: Uh it just give me one of other things the

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01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: men can clean done and then I'll be quiet. So uh,

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01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: the the Bill, the coaching staff, I love Bean and

1494
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: mcbe mc dermott, and uh going to be what they did.

1495
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: But he's a defensive coach. And what Eric Wood said

1496
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: the other day, wing's really true. I think repetition to

1497
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 1: the mother of invention. They got to practice this season

1498
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: before the year. The more long passes you see of

1499
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: all the DeMarco who was going to attack of breath?

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01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: That's not the play he's got to repeat? Go along,

1501
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: you get that extra seven points a game. Last thing

1502
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: I'll say, I was at the game. I was in

1503
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: the fifty yard line on the first row behind the Bill,

1504
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: and I guess the ABC wanted somebody who was dejected

1505
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: Bills fan and now I'd become a moon mama got

1506
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: that ship. Well, congratulations, I guess a good point. And

1507
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: I think he makes a really good point about the

1508
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: past to DeMarco, which stuck in your craw, mister Tasker.

1509
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: Not the past, but the people's reaction to the past.

1510
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: To DeMarco, right the deep one right there, people are like, well,

1511
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: it's because they've they're saying brand day Ball drew it up,

1512
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: is a drew it up and he's he's a you

1513
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: know what is he doing? He's you know, he's a

1514
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: buffoon for drunk and you know, and the retaliation as obvious.

1515
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: So I mean you got to, you know, to take

1516
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: the bad with the good. But anybody who thinks that

1517
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: was you know, the way that play was drawn up

1518
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: and is an idiot. I mean, come on, That's why.

1519
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: That's why offensive coordinator, that's why, that's why offensive coordinators

1520
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: get big money. That's why they they make plays like that,

1521
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: and certainly that's why they have to sit there and

1522
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: when people who don't know what they're talking about chime

1523
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: in and say they're fools for you know, how can

1524
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: you off draw up a play with a fullback going

1525
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: down the field? Deep and throwing the You know, you're

1526
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: an idiot if you think that's what that play was for.

1527
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: But if you think about it the right way, you

1528
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: obviously know that an offensive coordinator, if he could draw

1529
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: up the defense to defend that play, he would absolutely

1530
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: have Pat DeMarco going deep with two of the best

1531
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: athletes on defense double teaming Pat DeMarco. That's why you

1532
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,839
Speaker 1: draw the play up. You want the defense to waste

1533
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: defenders on Pat DeMarco. That's exactly why you do it.

1534
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: Josh made the wrong decision and threw this ball up

1535
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: for grabs to a fullback guarded by two dbs. So

1536
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: And for those people who think Brian day Ball is

1537
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: a fool for drawing that play up, what are you

1538
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: looking at? I mean, come back, come back to Earth

1539
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: and stop visiting another planet. This is where you need

1540
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: to live in this reality. Brian, that was brilliant. You

1541
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 1: got two of the best defensive out athletes on him,

1542
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 1: on Pat DeMarco. That's how you draw that up. Josh

1543
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: threw it to the wrong guy. That's where the play

1544
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: begins and ends. It's Josh had plenty of time. He

1545
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: had plenty of time to look around. If you'll look

1546
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: and the plan we just saw, he needs to just

1547
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: take a deep breath, look to his left a little bit,

1548
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: find somebody else. Maybe that was and if not, throw

1549
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: a move and run. But you know it didn't work

1550
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: out that way. So you got all these people and

1551
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: we saw I mean, Murphy, you and I say here

1552
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: and Brian day Ball. I mean, that's why he gets

1553
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: big money too, because when things like that happen, he's

1554
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna get slings and arrows and he's gonna get people

1555
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: calling for him to be fired. And that's why they

1556
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: get big, big money too, is coordinators. But you got

1557
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:16,879
Speaker 1: to sit there and say, you know, bro, that's exactly

1558
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 1: why he gets paid. What he does to draw up

1559
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: a play to happen exactly like that, and you gotta

1560
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: trust your quarterback not to throw it where you want

1561
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: the defense to defend, you know, yep. So let's take

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01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 1: him of the call. Let's go to Henry and Lackawanna Hello, Henry.

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01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 1: All right, guys, good, good good, Just a little bit

1564
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: of a disagreement here, and we're talking about it. DeMarco's throw.

1565
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: Obviously that's not the way to pass is set up.

1566
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: But what was set up was twenty one personnel, the

1567
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: one five wide. The reason why you do that is

1568
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: set up mismatches, and you got Lee Smith and de

1569
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,560
Speaker 1: Marco on the field. Neither one of those guys that

1570
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: are a mismatch or McKinney or a Huntingham. We passed

1571
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: the ball forty six times and rand the ball thirty times.

1572
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 1: We're up sixteen nothing. Those are gay ball issues. Those

1573
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: are issues that come up that I don't understand why

1574
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: he's being a pass sign at all. So if we

1575
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 1: got sixteen to nothing, you should fire the offensive coordinator. No, no, no, no.

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01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: We should run the ball more than your past si

1577
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: when you're up there to shorten the game. Okay, I

1578
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: mean if that's okay, I mean I'll tell you if

1579
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: you go back and you go back and look. And

1580
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: this not just for this last Saturday's game, for every game.

1581
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: This comes down to what we've been talking about. And

1582
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: this is why we got off on this Josh Shallon thing.

1583
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: If Josh sees it different, throws it different and makes

1584
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: a different decision, there are guys they're ready to have

1585
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: plays made, and even on the plays that we're not made,

1586
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, you you miss Cunningham coming through that on

1587
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: that quarterback sweep and that quarterback called run at sweep

1588
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: was gonna work again like it did on the first series,

1589
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 1: and the guys just whipped on the block. You know,

1590
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: you can put this stuff in as an offensive coordinator.

1591
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: You can do all of that if your guys, you know,

1592
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 1: and I get it, mistakes happen. But if you're gonna

1593
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: have mistakes like that and they happen a little too often,

1594
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: or if a guy just misses an opportunity, you're gonna

1595
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna blow a sixteen point lead. But to have this,

1596
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: you know, to say it's offensive coordinator issues, man, oh man,

1597
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't mean. I'm a former player

1598
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: and I just maybe have too much sometimes, But I

1599
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: put it on the players. There's no way you can

1600
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: tell me that the opportunities weren't there for the Bills

1601
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: to win that game, not just win it, but to

1602
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: win it, win it, win it. I mean, they had

1603
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: a chance to thump those guys, and they couldn't get

1604
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: it done because all of a sudden they started making

1605
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,560
Speaker 1: this mistake, missing that opportunity and having this play go

1606
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: bad on him making bad decisions. So you can you

1607
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: can put that on Brian Dable. But let me tell you,

1608
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: Brian Dable sitting there trying to help those guys and

1609
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: they didn't return the favor. Let's go to Jim and Boston,

1610
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: New York. Hello, Jim, welcome to the show. Hello, Hi Jim,

1611
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Oh how you doing? Guys? Yeah,

1612
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking my call. Sure, I just wanted

1613
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: to say something to all the Josh Allen bashers and

1614
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 1: everybody who's negative and condemni Josh um. I mean, without

1615
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: a doubt, so far, the greatest quarterback in Bill's history

1616
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: has been Jim Kelly. I have Jim Kelly statistics from

1617
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: his first two years is right in front of me.

1618
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 1: And Jim Kelly's rookie year the Bills went four and twelve,

1619
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: and his second year they went seven and nine. Here's

1620
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: Jim's statistics for his second year. He threw nineteen touchdowns,

1621
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 1: eleven interceptions, His completion percentage was fifty nine point seven,

1622
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 1: and his passer rating was eighty three point eight. Now,

1623
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is is that Jim Kelly broke out

1624
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: in his third year. That's when the legend started. And

1625
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: I think that you know, these people are just Josh.

1626
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: He's smart, he's hard working, he's dedicated. He has shown

1627
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: steady improvement, and I mean even critical. Jerry Sullivan, one

1628
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 1: of the most negative columnists in the Buffalo News. One

1629
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: of his last columns, he said, you have to show

1630
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: patience with Josh Ellen, and I think that's the key.

1631
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: Were good Josh. He has shown steady improvement. In my opinion,

1632
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: there's no reason to think he's just not going to

1633
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: be better. Yeah, And I get it. We do take

1634
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: a lot of calls on Josh and people are down

1635
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: on him, and even today, you know, people have really

1636
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,560
Speaker 1: down But I think for the most part, people know

1637
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: he's the guy going forward. I think people aren't ready

1638
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: to kick him to the curb, but they do realize

1639
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: his importance. And as far as comparing his early career

1640
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: to Jim Kelly's early career, I get it right. Josh

1641
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways is commensurate with Jim and

1642
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: maybe in some plays a little bit better than Jim was. Jim.

1643
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 1: The roster that Jim was on was much different in

1644
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: his second and third year, or first and second year,

1645
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: than Josh has been in his first and second year.

1646
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: This roster this year and Josh's second year was much

1647
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 1: better than Jim's roster in his second year. Jim was

1648
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: a little bit by himself in nineteen eighty seven, and

1649
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 1: the strike year they still hadn't started to get it together.

1650
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 1: There was no free agency, they couldn't replenish the roster

1651
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: as quickly around him. But and it was a different league.

1652
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: Sixty percent completions back then was big. Now it's a

1653
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: given you got to be around that anyway, and a

1654
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: lot of guys are almost seventy percent. So it's a

1655
01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: different league. But certainly the success individually statistically, and make

1656
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: that comparison to Jim back in the day. And I

1657
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: think that the big crux of the issue is this,

1658
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 1: it's a quarterback driven league. We know it, we all

1659
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: see it. That means your quarterback is the center of attention.

1660
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: And from right now it's still about Josh, and he's

1661
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 1: better because he does need to get better. And I think,

1662
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: do you believe it's gonna happen or do you not

1663
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: believe it's gonna happen? Do you believe the top end

1664
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: when Josh finally gets there and hopefully sooner than later,

1665
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: maybe this third year is the magic year. So if

1666
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: this third year is going to be the magic year

1667
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: and whatever it turns out to be, is that going

1668
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: to be enough for this team to build around him

1669
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: and win a super Bowl? Or is it a pipe dream?

1670
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: Is he never gonna think He's never gonna be that

1671
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: good that the team will be able to put it

1672
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: together around him enough for them to win a super Bowl.

1673
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: That's really the question, right, is he gonna get good

1674
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,560
Speaker 1: enough or is he not gonna get good enough? Is

1675
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: he gonna get it good enough for they can fill

1676
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: in the gaps around him and be good enough or

1677
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: is it just are they just never gonna get there

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Speaker 1: with this guy? And that's the big question. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to say, yes, he will get good. I

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01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: think based on the improvement in his performance from his

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Speaker 1: rookie year to his second year, you can anticipate maybe

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01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: not exactly the same, but another level of improvement next year. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think he will get better, and I think it'll

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01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: be fun to watch him get better. I agree. That's

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01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:22,799
Speaker 1: where I'm at too. I'm I see a further development

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01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: for I see, I see a top end that he

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01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 1: hasn't reached yet. And I see and you and me

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01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: now we see the guy, and we talked to him.

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01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: We hear every interview he does. We nobody's like away

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Speaker 1: from the cameras and with his teammates and stuff. The

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01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: guy wants to be good, he wants to get better,

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01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: and he works really hard at it, and he's really intelligent.

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Speaker 1: All that mixed together gives me great hope and optimism

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01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 1: that he is does have a high end that he's

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01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 1: going to reach sooner rather than later. So that's why

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01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 1: my optimism is that, Yeah, he is the guy going forward.

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Speaker 1: He is going to get better and this team will

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Speaker 1: be able to support him in a way that makes

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. When we return, come on back one.

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Speaker 1: pass from John Brown against the Texans. In doing so,

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Speaker 1: he became the first Bills quarterback or recorded receiving touchdown

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Speaker 1: in a playoff game. Bill's player to score his first

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Speaker 1: receiving touchdown in the playoffs. Paul Seymour did it at

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in nineteen seventy four. Mitch Ferrott did it at

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in nineteen ninety three. So congratulations to Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Got a Twitter poll up today

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Speaker 1: and we're having some fun with that. What do you

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01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: think are the Bills? Are they going to win the

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Speaker 1: AFC East in twenty twenty? Do you expect him to

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01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 1: do that? Let's get to the tweet sheet brought to

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills from Bills and Mets Fan right soon. I

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01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: worry that our schedule appears to be much tougher, and

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01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: the last month of this season was not too promising.

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01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 1: But I think we will be better next year and

1730
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: are ready to win the East. It's the next step

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01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: in the process. It's not a slam dunk, Steve that

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Speaker 1: they win the East. Yeah, right, Oh, I mean, where'd

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Speaker 1: you saying, singers, how nobody else has won it for

1734
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: ten years? Yeah, it's not a slam dunk, I would say.

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Speaker 1: And I think the schedule has something to do with it.

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01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: Who they play on paper. I know things aren't as

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01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: they appear, but they play some good teams on year.

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Speaker 1: Everybody else plays that same schedule in the division though

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01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: as well. So it's you know, it's not like they're

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01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: gonna be up against something that's unfair, and it's and

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01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: here's the thing too, And this is the frustrating part

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01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: about this whole prognostication exercise that we always do. And

1743
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: you say, hey, are the Bill's gonna offense gonna be

1744
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: better next year? And here's the simple fact of the matter.

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01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: That derails the whole argument. They could be way better

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01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: and be statistically worse because they're playing better defenses next year,

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01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 1: because they get an injury here. Because whatever happens, they

1748
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 1: could be better. They could execute better, they could do

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01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: and they could play. They could be statistically worse. Now

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01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: you're saying, if can they be statistically better? Who knows?

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01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 1: I don't. There's so many things that have to happen

1752
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: for that, you know, to take place. We don't know.

1753
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: But the simple fact of the matter is they could.

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01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: You could even pass the eye test say yeah, this

1755
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: is a much better offense than it was a year

1756
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,719
Speaker 1: ago because they got this big time number one wide receiver,

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01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: and they got this brand new, shiny right tackle, and

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01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: they move Cody forward down inside. They're bigger and better,

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01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: they're game, they got a better backup running back, they

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01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 1: did all this stuff. They're way better. But now they're

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01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: nine and seven instead of ten and six, So all

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01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: of that stuff's on the table, and the question can

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01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: they win? Can they win ten games again? Can they

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01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: win eleven games or twelve games again once again like

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01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: they had in the past way back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Can they do that? Like teams that get a bye

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01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: week do And that's that's the real question, because even

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01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 1: your your defense, could you know, in some ways play

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01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: worse next year and be statistically just as you know

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01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, you could win more games with a

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01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 1: worse defense than you had this year and a better

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01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: offense and vice versus. So yeah, also that you got

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01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: to take into consideration what's going on in the division.

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01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 1: As the next person on Twitter, Patrick tweets and I

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01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: don't think Tom Brady is back in New England. Gas

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01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: has gone by week six next year, the Bills are

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01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: the most stable team in the AFC East. They have

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01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: a great young core. Defense will be top five again.

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01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: If the offense can prove and a valid improves in

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01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: year three, then yes the Bills will win the East.

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01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 1: That's pretty comprehensive answer. But you know he's right, it's

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01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: more than just the Bills. It's how everybody else is

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01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 1: going to do, in particularly the Patriots and the Jets.

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01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: You have to take down into consideration. And there's one thing,

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01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: and we only have a well I have time to

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01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: say this. I guess go ahead thinking how difficult it

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01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: will be to win the AFC East next year, and

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01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: it will be difficult for the Bills to do. It

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01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: makes me appreciate a little bit more what the Patriots

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01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 1: have done. Yes, but other teams who are always in contention,

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01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,719
Speaker 1: it's hard to be that team, whether you're the Steelers

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01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 1: for the most part, in contention every year, the Seahawks

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01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,799
Speaker 1: who are in contention every year including this year, the Packers,

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01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,560
Speaker 1: n the Ravens. I mean, it's hard to have that

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01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: kind of a level of performance and keep it going year.

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01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 1: I say that though, and that's one of the reasons

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01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,560
Speaker 1: for optimism. This seems to be an organization at this

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01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: point in history that's built to do exactly that. Yeah,

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01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: they want to be just as good, if not better

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01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: than they were this past year and the year before

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01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: and the next year and the next year after that.

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01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 1: They seem sustainable. But we're still three years down the

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01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: road where they've kind of gotten it back into the

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01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: saddle here after going six and ten last year, and

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01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 1: now they're kind of word, we can see that. Well,

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01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: now you gotta do it right right, and that's and

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01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 1: you don't start with that, and it doesn't get easier

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01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: just because you're built differently. All Right, we will take

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01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 1: a break care when we come back. While We're talking

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Speaker 1: with Joe Thomas, ten time Pro Bowl performer on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line for the Cleveland Browns. He's now an NFL

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Speaker 1: Network analyst. Joe Thomas When we come back, One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida Health from the Seneca Studio in Archer Park,

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Speaker 1: Seneca Resorts in Casino. Nothing Comes, Closet Techs Time to

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Speaker 1: Down Down Time, Hour three the Show. John Murphy Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker from the Seneca Studio in Archer Park joining us

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Speaker 1: on the line. Ten time Pro Bowl but former Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Brown's offensive lineman, current NFL Network analyst. He's the host

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01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 1: of The Tomahawks Show with Andrew Hawkins. Happy to have

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01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas on the show. With this, Joe, we have

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01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: a your bubble head here. One of our staffers here

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01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: mentioned that he got this at a Browns Chargers game

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01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: this year. They're giving out the Joe Thomas bobble heads.

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01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: They were emptying an old closet. I'm sure they were

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01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 1: trying to get rid of that and it was either

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01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 1: put that in the garbage or give it away to

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01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: unsuspecting fans. So I'm sure they were trying to get

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01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: something out of it. I gotta say, you're much better

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01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: looking than the bubblehead would portray. You, asked Joe, I

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01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. Well, hey, thank you so much.

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01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 1: It's a little bar yea, all right, so he talk

1832
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: to us a little bit about what's going on in Cleveland.

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01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I saw your tweet and I

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01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 1: get what you're saying about. Hey, the Browns now they're

1835
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: the front runs for all these other hand candidates. Now

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01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: if you take the guys that are already off the board,

1837
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: you gotta know there's a lot of quality guys out

1838
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,640
Speaker 1: there that are in for the head coach cycle. And

1839
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: now the Browns have their pick. What do you how

1840
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 1: do you see it coming down? Yeah? I think it's

1841
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: great because talking with ownership and understanding kind of who

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01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 1: the people are that they've really liked, and they've been

1843
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: focusing their search on those guys are all available, and

1844
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 1: when you're the only show in town, that gives you

1845
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: a great amount of leverage to either convince somebody to

1846
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 1: take the job or to be able to select the

1847
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 1: right person. I think one of the big questions marks

1848
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: was will Josh McDaniels be able to have the pick

1849
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 1: of the litter and will he be willing to leave

1850
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. And I think with all the

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01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 1: things that are happening with Tom Brady and potential turnover

1852
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 1: in that franchise, he might be thinking, right now, this

1853
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: is the time to make the move. And I think

1854
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 1: the Browns right now obviously being the only show in

1855
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 1: town that really puts in him in a good situation

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01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 1: to convince him that right now is the time to move.

1857
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: Bill's offensive coordinator Brian Dable interviewed for the job the

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01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 1: other day. Joe, is he a legitimate candidate in Cleveland? Absolutely?

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01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: He was one of the guys that I mentioned to

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01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,600
Speaker 1: ownership that I think they should definitely talk to. He

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01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: was a guy that maybe doesn't get as much hype,

1862
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 1: But I always think that the guys that get the

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01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 1: most type sometimes aren't the best candidates. And I think

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01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 1: we've seen that throughout history that sometimes the best hires

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01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: are the guys that you don't know very well. And

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01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 1: with day Ball, he's a guy that has a broad

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01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: base of experience. He's worked for Nick Saban a couple

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01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 1: of times, he's worked for Bill Belichick. He's been an

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01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator at a bunch of different places, and I

1870
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: think that broad base of experience makes you a great

1871
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 1: candidate because you can draw from all those different guys

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01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: that you've worked with and figure out this is what

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01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 1: I like, this is what I don't like, and you

1874
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: can become the best version of yourself as a head coach.

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01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: And the one thing I will say about guys that

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01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 1: have gone on from the Belichick tree and not had

1877
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: success as head coaches, I've coached or I've played for

1878
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 1: Eric Mangini and Romeo Cornell, and those guys all tried

1879
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 1: to become Bill Belichick because for the most part, those

1880
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 1: were guys that had only worked for Bill. And if

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01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 1: you've only worked for one guy, you don't know any

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01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: other ways to do it. And Brian's different than that.

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01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 1: He's worked both sides of the football. He's worked with

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01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: Bill a long time. But he does have that experience

1885
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 1: at a bunch of different places, which is why I

1886
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: thought he could be the right candidate for the Browns.

1887
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't want you to bite the hand that feeds you,

1888
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 1: but over the course of your career, you, like you mentioned,

1889
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 1: you played for a bunch of head coaches, and the

1890
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:07,560
Speaker 1: Browns continue to try and get it right. What have

1891
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 1: they missed in their searches for head coaches in the past,

1892
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: and what do you think they may get right this time. Well,

1893
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 1: I think in the past they've had some good coaches.

1894
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 1: I've been involved with some guys that I thought were

1895
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 1: excellent coaches, but they just didn't have all the pieces

1896
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 1: that they needed, specifically the quarterback position. And when you

1897
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 1: don't have that, sometimes you don't have enough time to

1898
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: be able to get it right to build your culture.

1899
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 1: And I think if you talk to the Hasms, they

1900
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: would probably say, Hey, I think we've had some good

1901
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 1: head coaches in here, we just didn't give enough resources

1902
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 1: and enough time. But I think they're in a different

1903
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 1: situation right now, and they finally have the group of young,

1904
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 1: talented players that when you get a good coach in

1905
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: there and can kind of build a team and get

1906
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 1: a culture of winning built right there. They've got the

1907
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: talent right now to be able to make this a

1908
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: successful run with this new head coach. One more question

1909
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:01,560
Speaker 1: about the Browns from Joe, and that's Baker Mayfield. He

1910
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: a you know, he took a step back this year

1911
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 1: in his second year. What do they do to get

1912
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 1: him going on the right track. Again, I'm sure they're

1913
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: not ready to give up on him yet, Oh absolutely not.

1914
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 1: I think they've seen enough from him to understand that

1915
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: he's got all the tools that are necessary to be

1916
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 1: a winning quarterback and a franchise quarterback in the NFL.

1917
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 1: And really, for him, it's about bringing in a coach

1918
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 1: that's smart, that's demanding, that's going to get the most

1919
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: out of him. And I think with Baker, the type

1920
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 1: of player or a coach that gets the most out

1921
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 1: of him as one that's very tough, very demanding. Baker

1922
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,799
Speaker 1: might not like him at first, but he's also very smart.

1923
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 1: And Baker is the type of guy that performs at

1924
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:40,759
Speaker 1: his best when the pressure is on him, when people

1925
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 1: don't believe in him, when he's being ridden really hard.

1926
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 1: And so I think that's the type of coach that

1927
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 1: they're going to be looking for here with their next

1928
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 1: head coach. And is there any other names that are

1929
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: set to be talked to that they have not talked

1930
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 1: to yet? And there is there anybody who they've talked

1931
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 1: to twice or three times or they're getting callbacks? What's

1932
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 1: the status, Well, they're just finishing their first round of interviews.

1933
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: I think Jim Schwartz is in there today, and after

1934
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 1: they finished with him, I believe that they're going to

1935
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 1: sit in a room and kind of come up with, Okay,

1936
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 1: we've got two or three guys that we really like

1937
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 1: that we want to get an opportunity to have a

1938
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 1: follow up with, and right now I think Stefanski from

1939
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota is a guy they really like. They like mc

1940
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 1: daniel's obviously. I think they like Robert Sala out of

1941
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 1: San Francisco, who's the guy they interviewed earlier on in

1942
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 1: the process. And so now it's just going to be

1943
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: a matter of narrowing it down and then who do

1944
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 1: we want to bring in for those second round of interviews. Well,

1945
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 1: on the line with Joe Thomas Farmer Brown's offensive line

1946
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: in ten time pro bowler now a current analyst on

1947
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: NFL Network, Hey, let me bring in on the conversation

1948
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 1: we've been having on our show, Joe. And as you

1949
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 1: take a look around the league, I'm sure you pay

1950
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of attention to the AFC East. Do

1951
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 1: you think the Bills should expect to win the division

1952
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 1: next year based on what's going on in New England,

1953
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 1: what's going on with the other teams beside the Patriots. Yeah,

1954
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: the Bills were my preseason picks for surprise playoff contenders,

1955
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 1: and they proved me to be a smart guy. And

1956
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: that's situation. At least my wife might disagree on the whole.

1957
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 1: But I like the Buffalo Bills right now. I think

1958
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 1: they're built the right way. They're built with toughness, they're

1959
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: built with discipline from their head coach Sean McDermott. And

1960
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: they've got a talented young quarterback who fits this mold

1961
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 1: of the modern NFL, who can run, he can throw

1962
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 1: the football, And so for them, I expect them to

1963
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 1: take another step next year. At the same time, the

1964
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 1: Patriots are kind of taking a step back. And to me, hey,

1965
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure what I'm gonna do next August,

1966
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 1: but I think picking them Bills as division winners is

1967
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 1: not going to be that far fetched. Well, how do

1968
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 1: you see things transpiring in New England? I mean we've

1969
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 1: sat here, you and us, everybody sat here for two

1970
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 1: decades watching their dominance. And the two main guys that

1971
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:50,639
Speaker 1: are facing the franchise, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, if one

1972
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: of those are both of those are gone or whatever,

1973
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: how big a step back would it take for them.

1974
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 1: You know, let's face it, they won twelve games this year.

1975
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 1: You know that's not been People are pointing at him

1976
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: as a down year, right, I mean that's crazy, but

1977
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: that's where they sit. How big a step back would

1978
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: you anticipate? Well, I think it's going to be a

1979
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 1: step back because no matter what they do, if they

1980
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 1: keep Brady, he's going to be a year older and

1981
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: we've seen sort of a little decline in his skills

1982
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 1: as he's gotten older, and they've got to figure out

1983
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 1: what they can do to put some weapons around whoever

1984
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 1: that quarterback is. If it's not Tom, then it's gonna

1985
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,400
Speaker 1: be a big step back because, like you mentioned, everyone

1986
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 1: acted like the Patriots stunk at the end of the season. Right.

1987
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:34,640
Speaker 1: They were twelve and four, all right, they were a

1988
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 1: really good team. They nearly won the first round in

1989
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 1: the playoff game. But with that being said, we've got

1990
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 1: to expect that they're going to continue to kind of

1991
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 1: just get incrementally worse as Tom gets older. If he's

1992
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 1: the guy, and if they do have to start over

1993
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: that that's a big undertaking. Like people don't realize even

1994
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:57,560
Speaker 1: though Tom may not be as great as he was

1995
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 1: five six years ago. He's still one of the best

1996
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL, and he brings so many intangibles

1997
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 1: to that team, from his leadership, from showing guys the

1998
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:11,080
Speaker 1: right way, from holding guys accountable, that to lose him

1999
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: would be devastating for that franchise. And even if they

2000
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 1: bring in a guy who's younger, who can maybe throw

2001
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: the football better, they lose so many of those intangibles

2002
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,679
Speaker 1: that they will not be able to replace him easily

2003
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 1: at all. On the line with Joe Thomas, NFL Network

2004
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 1: analysts Joe this weekend's games, Timmy, let me take it

2005
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: to Saturday night's AFC game, Tennessee at Baltimore. Baltimore is,

2006
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, nominally the best team left in the AFC.

2007
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 1: Are they really that good? And how the Tennessee have

2008
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 1: a chance against them Saturday night? Well, Tennessee has a chance,

2009
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 1: But I think if Tennessee wants to win this game,

2010
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 1: they've got to play turnover free football and they've got

2011
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 1: to be able to force two or three turnovers of

2012
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Because the common theme everyone's saying is, oh, well,

2013
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 1: if you can get up early on the Ravens, then

2014
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to force they're gonna be forced to

2015
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:00,599
Speaker 1: throw the football, and then that's the situa they don't

2016
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 1: want to be in. But a contrary to that belief,

2017
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: they've got a quarterback who even if he is running

2018
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,560
Speaker 1: the football, he's a home run threat. So that's just

2019
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 1: as good as passing the football. And so just because

2020
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 1: they're behind by fourteen in the first half doesn't mean

2021
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna all of a sudden abandon the run game.

2022
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 1: So to be able to beat the Ravens, which is

2023
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:20,640
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the team to beat right now in

2024
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 1: the NFL, you've got to play flawless on offense and

2025
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 1: you've got to force several turnovers to give yourself short

2026
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 1: fields to really get a big lead, because it doesn't

2027
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 1: matter what the score is. Lamar Jackson's going to run

2028
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 1: with the football and he's gonna be able to hit

2029
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 1: a home run from wherever he is on the field.

2030
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: You know, the Bills had to get used to Tom

2031
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 1: Brady and the Patriots dominating their division for almost two decades.

2032
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 1: Is that something Cleveland and Pittsburgh and the restaurant we

2033
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 1: have to look at like it's Baltimore going to be

2034
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 1: able to maintain this level to play in the years ahead. Well,

2035
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 1: I think they will. I mean, the only thing that's

2036
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 1: really going to hold them back is if something happens

2037
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:56,599
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson from an injury standpoint, because with him

2038
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: in there, I don't see that there's any defense out there.

2039
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 1: You can just wave your magic wand and be able

2040
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 1: to take care of what they do on offense, which

2041
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: makes them so good because they make you defend every

2042
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 1: blade of grass. The way that they run their jet

2043
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 1: motions and their orbit motions. They've got a receiver run

2044
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 1: in one way, the quarterback run in the other way,

2045
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: and halfback jamming it up inside. There's not really a

2046
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 1: lot of defenses that can do anything to handle that

2047
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,639
Speaker 1: because they stretch you so much, and they creates space,

2048
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: which is the enemy of every defense. Every defense wants

2049
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: to keep you contained, keep you inside. So they got

2050
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,560
Speaker 1: all eleven guys that can run to the football. But

2051
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 1: the Ravens just stretch you horizontally so much that there's

2052
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 1: so many gaps and so many spaces to fill. It's

2053
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 1: not something that you can just come up with an

2054
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: easy defense to take away. Last question I've got for you,

2055
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: Joe it's been my assertion. I'll let you in on

2056
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 1: this conversation too. I've said that wildcard weekend is always

2057
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 1: the best weekend of football. You get teams that scratch

2058
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: and claw into the playoffs and they give this emotional effort,

2059
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,719
Speaker 1: and divisional round of the playoffs is always the worst

2060
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 1: because they're going on the road into the teams that

2061
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 1: have been waiting for them for two weeks that are

2062
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 1: rested and fresh and also very talented and playing well.

2063
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 1: Is that how you see this playing out. I think

2064
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really tough for road teams to win

2065
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:08,800
Speaker 1: this weekend. It is gonna be tough, and I do

2066
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 1: love wild card weekend. It's my favorite weekend of football

2067
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 1: throughout the entire season. I think the biggest thing is

2068
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 1: that when you go from the wild card to the

2069
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 1: divisional round, you just left everything on the field. In

2070
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 1: the wildcard round, you sold out, you burned the boats,

2071
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 1: and then to be able to come back and go

2072
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:26,560
Speaker 1: on the road and travel across country a lot of

2073
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 1: times it's hard to emotionally get yourself up and focus

2074
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 1: the same way you were the week before. Teams have

2075
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 1: done it, but it's definitely hard and it's definitely a disadvantage. Hey, Joe,

2076
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 1: thanks for this, good to talk with. They hope to

2077
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: talk you again sometime. Thank you very much. Hey, thanks

2078
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 1: for having me on. Guys. Joe Thomas Farmer, Brown's offensive lineman,

2079
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 1: played eleven seasons there in Cleveland, ten time pro bowler,

2080
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 1: their current NFL network analysts host of The Tomahawk Show

2081
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 1: with Andrew Hawkins. Good reasonable, young boys. You don't hear

2082
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 1: from very much. Ten thousand consecutive snaps in the National

2083
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 1: Football Leagues and it's considered a record. I don't know

2084
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 1: that they can document it at all, but it's you know,

2085
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 1: what a what a guy and you know them was

2086
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: got an injury and that kind he decided, you know,

2087
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 1: after ten years or however many years as well, he

2088
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:11,720
Speaker 1: was like, all right, thanks, I was done, and good

2089
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,679
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, he's a smart guy. Who who's who's

2090
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 1: watched this Cleveland Browns through a lot of things, both

2091
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 1: as a player now as a as a media person

2092
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 1: and to get some insight on him. It really is

2093
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: to me interesting how the Cleveland Browns are handling this.

2094
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 1: There has got to be a point where the Hasling

2095
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 1: family and ownership have got to say listen, we've got

2096
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 1: to get this right. And then once you make the decision,

2097
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 1: you've almost got to be the point where we got

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01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 1: to make it the right decision. Whoever they hire has

2099
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:44,679
Speaker 1: got to get through this contract. They've got to make progress.

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01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 1: They got to support him in every way possible. You

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01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 1: can't live like this year after year after year. And

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01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:53,680
Speaker 1: yet Joe Thomas, his career was built on year after

2103
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: year after year of just that exact situation. You know,

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01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to I do agree with you, but I'm

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01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 1: reluctant to say that because it's we're only a couple

2106
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 1: of years removed from the similar situation here in Buffalo.

2107
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 1: And the Bills continued to confound experts all over the

2108
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 1: country who said, you can't do that. You can't fire

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01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:13,679
Speaker 1: your coach every other year. Well, we'd like to announce

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01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 1: our new head coach this year. Bills were right there

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01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 1: for a minute decades and they finally got it straightened out,

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01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, three years ago, and hopefully it stays straightened out.

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01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 1: I think it will. But you know, the Bills are

2114
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 1: right there where the Cleveland Browns are right now, And

2115
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 1: when you're learning a lesson, don't forget it. And it

2116
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 1: seems like the Bills have learned it and they're not

2117
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 1: forgetting it. The Browns have forgotten it time and time again.

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01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: And we'll see it's an ownership thing. Absolutely is an

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01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 1: ownership if the owners committed to, yes, finding the right guy,

2120
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: which they they're doing their work now appeared to be

2121
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 1: looking for the right guy and then making them the

2122
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: right guy. As you say, you know, he supporting him,

2123
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 1: supporting You think about the way they handled John Dorsey.

2124
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 1: They brought him in, they kind of he's steadied the ship.

2125
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 1: He brought in Jarvis Landry Baker, Mayfield, O B J. Chubb,

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01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 1: all these they got the dying in talent, they got

2127
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 1: guys and yeah, okay it didn't work or whatever, and

2128
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: they and the head coach Freddie Kitsch was maybe a mistake.

2129
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you man to to tear it down

2130
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 1: to the studs again and go from here. Is just

2131
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 1: seems oh man, and I you know we're not that

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01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 1: far away. I mean we were there. I mean, that's

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01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: what I want a kid and about I mean, I

2134
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: get it. And there's always optimism about this is going

2135
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 1: to be the time. But do you think too how

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01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 1: successful does this guy have to be right away? Well,

2137
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 1: if they're smart, they don't anticipate he'll be successful. They

2138
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 1: won't require him to be successful right away. And that's

2139
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 1: kind of why I asked the question about the Baltimore Ravens.

2140
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 1: He thinks very highly of the Ravens. Are they prepared

2141
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 1: to sit there and let the Ravens win a couple

2142
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 1: of division titles, maybe more than that over the next

2143
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 1: several years. They better be if they're that good, right,

2144
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: they better think about how that division looks. You got Cleveland,

2145
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:00,600
Speaker 1: who is in the shape that it's been in for

2146
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,680
Speaker 1: twenty years. The Pittsburgh Steelers, who are a little bit

2147
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 1: down this year, didn't make the playoffs. Ben Roethlisberger is

2148
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 1: old and he's got a bad elbow, he says he

2149
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 1: still wants to play. And then you've got the Cincinnati

2150
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 1: Bengals who have just or have started now maybe to

2151
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 1: climb out of it. They got the number one pick

2152
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 1: of the draft, he's right, yeah, So how long is

2153
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 1: it gonna take them to get out? And you've got Baltimore,

2154
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 1: who are the number one seed in the conference. How

2155
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 1: long is it gonna before anybody's even in a position

2156
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 1: to even take Baltimore off of that person. I mean,

2157
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is the team because they're the team that has

2158
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:39,719
Speaker 1: the best chance I think, but that's not a given

2159
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 1: either with they gotta get some guys, you know. I mean,

2160
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 1: they lost Levion Bell, Antonio Brown and now Ben Roethlisberger,

2161
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 1: and I mean, and I see it, but that's a

2162
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 1: division that looks as bad as the AFC East did

2163
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 1: three years ago, four years ago. Hey, let's reset the

2164
01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 1: show a little bit here. We'll let you know the

2165
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 1: news of the day. Built tier Link, who's been with

2166
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:03,560
Speaker 1: the Bills for three years on the staff of Sean McDermott,

2167
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 1: is leaving. He's going to join Virginia Tech as the

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01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: defensive line coach. Tierlink has spent the last two seasons

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01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 1: as the Bills defensive line coach. In twenty seventeen, when

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01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,719
Speaker 1: he first arrived, he was assistant defensive line coach. He's

2171
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:17,919
Speaker 1: gonna be the code defensive line coach for the Hokeys.

2172
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 1: Darryl Trappell also served as defensive line coach. The head

2173
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: coach of Virginia Tech. Justin Fiuente worked with Tierlink at

2174
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 1: Illinois State. He was defensive line coach there. In oh

2175
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 1: five and oh six. Aaron Whitecotton left on the Bills

2176
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 1: roster as assistant defensive line coach. Now, but Bill Tierlink

2177
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 1: is leaving the Bills, and the Bills added a specialist

2178
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 1: to their offseason roster yesterday, signing kicker punter Corey Benvick

2179
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 1: as a reserve future free agent. He is twenty five

2180
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 1: years old. What are we talking about today? Do you

2181
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 1: expect the Bills to win the AFC East in twenty twenty?

2182
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:52,720
Speaker 1: That's the topic on the table. Let's take a few

2183
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 1: more phone calls eight three fifty toll free one eight

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01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We'll go to

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01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 1: Tim and Maryland. Hello, you're on the air with this.

2186
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:04,559
Speaker 1: Thank you a good afternoon, and thank you for taking

2187
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 1: my call. You're welcome. And at first they shout out

2188
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,679
Speaker 1: to the DC Bills backers and all the other regional clubs.

2189
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 1: I was confident at the beginning of the year that

2190
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 1: the Bills could go nine and seven up to eleven

2191
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 1: and five, and I have to say it has the

2192
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 1: feel of the Kemp Saving years, that Kelly Levy years.

2193
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 1: And if Josh continues to improve, and if there's more

2194
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 1: entropy in the Patriots camp, then I definitely see a

2195
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 1: ten and six or eleven and five season with a

2196
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 1: very strong probability of winning the East. Okay, I've got

2197
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: a question. During the year, I definitely saw some throws

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01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 1: that seemed to float, seemed to be taller than the receivers,

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01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,559
Speaker 1: and I'm sure a lot of other people did and said, oh,

2200
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 1: we need taller receivers. But what happens to any quarterbacks

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01:48:56,080 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: accuracy if half of his targets are say six four,

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01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 1: six five or taller in the other half or five

2203
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:11,679
Speaker 1: eleven and shorter. Was nothing. In my opinion, the quarterback

2204
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 1: throws to the receiver if he's even if he's five

2205
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 1: eight or if he's six eight, that he's throwing it

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01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: where the guy can catch it, and he should be

2207
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 1: able to hit the guy in the bread basket, either

2208
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 1: ahead of him or behind him, or wherever the guy

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01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 1: needs it. That's how accurate you want your quarterback to be.

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01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,639
Speaker 1: So the size of the and I kind of chuckle

2211
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 1: when you said they need taller receivers. To me, that's

2212
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 1: a joke. I mean, it's it's being sarcastic. What it

2213
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 1: really tells you is your quarterback needs to throw it better.

2214
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's probably where most people are with

2215
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 1: Josh Well, I think I was echoing what I've been

2216
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 1: hearing others say. Yeah, I think they could use the

2217
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: taller receiver, Steve, just to mix it up a little bit.

2218
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:57,759
Speaker 1: They have a number of short receivers. They need somebody

2219
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 1: with a little bit more length, and especially in the

2220
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 1: red zone. I think that's where it makes a difference.

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01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 1: I get it, but I'm not I'm saying if he

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01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 1: overthrows a guy, it's not because the guy's short. No,

2223
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 1: that's my point. Yeah, they and I get and I'm

2224
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 1: poo pooed the idea that somehow a big number one,

2225
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 1: big time, big size, fast wide receiver is a magic

2226
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 1: wand and I still don't think it is. If they

2227
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 1: get a guy like that, I think it will help them,

2228
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 1: There's absolutely no doubt about it. Better players make you better,

2229
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:30,560
Speaker 1: and I think they missed a big target that was

2230
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: worthy of a double team. If you get another guy

2231
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: like that, certainly all the other guys on the offense

2232
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:39,320
Speaker 1: are going to get better and he will get his

2233
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 1: share of targets. So yeah, they could. Certainly. If you're

2234
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 1: going to talk about skill positions, that's the one. That's

2235
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 1: the one thing they would do next is get a

2236
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 1: big time, big sized, number one wide receiver. But for me,

2237
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 1: the only thing, and I've said consistently on the off season,

2238
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 1: is I don't think that would have been a magic

2239
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 1: wand that would have made this team twelve and four,

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01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 1: but it would have helped certainly, and how many times

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01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 1: it would have helped, maybe it would have been him

2242
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 1: win or here or win there. We're not that far

2243
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 1: away from being, you know, one of those teams that

2244
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,720
Speaker 1: goes thirteen to three, fourteen and two. They were ten

2245
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 1: and six this year and they had five of those

2246
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 1: games where one score games or a number of them,

2247
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 1: and any of those games could gone the other way.

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01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 1: So you're not that far away now. But I still

2249
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 1: don't think that big time wide receivers a magic one

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01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna cure everything. He'll help and this face it,

2251
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm they don't need that much help. But that still

2252
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 1: is the obvious place in the skill positions. I still

2253
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: think they're going to bolster their offensive line, continue to

2254
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 1: get stronger there. I think their defensive line is gonna

2255
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 1: see some new faces. I think, you know, this is

2256
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 1: a roster that's gonna look a lot different, a lot

2257
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 1: different than it did this year, despite the fact that

2258
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott said he'd love to keep it intact. Let's

2259
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 1: go to a call from Ray in Rochester. Hello, Ray,

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01:51:54,960 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hi guys, Hello, hold on just

2261
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 1: one second, there we are. I'm Mark High Steve once

2262
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 1: in the first game in nineteen sixty three. Um, just

2263
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 1: so it seems to you about about Josh and hopefully

2264
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:16,560
Speaker 1: he'll improve and get more steady. Um. I just I

2265
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 1: just want to ask the question. Then I'll hang up

2266
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 1: and listen. My question is also about the spots he's

2267
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 1: been put in by Drabel. But you know more than

2268
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 1: I do, certainly, but not just this last game with

2269
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 1: the Texans, especially J. J. Watt fired up his line

2270
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 1: minutes such with your ears been back to get Josh. Um.

2271
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: But in other games too, it's been it seems to

2272
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 1: me three or four or five games that have ended

2273
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 1: with the Bills trying to tie it or win it,

2274
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 1: or at least three or four games and Drabel has

2275
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 1: Josh you know five step drops here, I know, here

2276
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 1: comes to Zack yep, here comes the I N T yep.

2277
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 1: I just keep wondering the spots that Alan is being

2278
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:02,200
Speaker 1: put into. Why why isn't there are in that situation

2279
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 1: of short passes to Beasley or a tight end or

2280
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:09,519
Speaker 1: a screenplay or draw play. I just never see these things.

2281
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 1: I see them over and over. But you know I'm

2282
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 1: not that break. So I'll hang up a listening too

2283
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 1: to think about end up game play calling. Well, what's Drable? Thanks? Yeah,

2284
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you if there's a

2285
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: generality that I could draw from that, because, like I've

2286
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 1: said and ray that there are enough plays that are

2287
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 1: not made that are there that are drawn up, that

2288
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: are available choices for Josh make. Certainly some of the

2289
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,680
Speaker 1: bad sacks that Josh's take are only on Josh, and

2290
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:44,600
Speaker 1: some of them are on their offensive line, and some

2291
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 1: of them are on the receivers and the coverage all that,

2292
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 1: there's no I don't think there's any generality or generalization

2293
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:55,680
Speaker 1: you can make that will say it's Brian dab And

2294
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 1: certainly Brian Dable is to hold some of the water

2295
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,759
Speaker 1: on this too, But it's Brian Dable, it's Josh Allen,

2296
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:03,720
Speaker 1: it's the receivers, it's the offensive line, and every play

2297
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 1: in every game is a little bit different. And I

2298
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:08,640
Speaker 1: don't know that there's a generality that covers all the

2299
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 1: points you just made about, because there's so many close

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01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:15,600
Speaker 1: games this team played in. You know, everybody shares in that,

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01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 1: and it's that's the frustrating part of it. And as

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01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:21,680
Speaker 1: far as Brian Dabole goes in, you know, if you're

2303
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 1: going to defend him, the people who defend him, and

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01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 1: one of them I've done it, say listen, if you

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01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 1: he may have taken a sack here, and it may

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01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 1: have been a five step drop and it maybe but

2307
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 1: a guy's standing over here, why don't you throw it

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01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 1: to him? You know, if and if if, if Josh

2309
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 1: took a bad sack, we'll just throw it away. You

2310
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 1: don't have to start running around and go backwards and

2311
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 1: get caught with the ball in your hand and three

2312
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 1: guys draped on you. You can't. I don't think there's

2313
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 1: a generality that you can just say this was the problem,

2314
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 1: because all those plays are different, and everybody, even Brian Dayble,

2315
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Devin Singletary, the offensive line, Colled Beasley, John Brown,

2316
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 1: they all share in one or two plays throughout a

2317
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 1: season or throughout a game that could have been a

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01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 1: difference maker, particularly when you're in all these close games.

2319
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 1: So I understand that there are times when you could

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01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 1: look and say, well, I wish they would have called

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01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:16,880
Speaker 1: a different play, and sometimes they should have. But there

2322
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 1: are a lot of times when the play was there,

2323
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 1: was drawn up and it was perfectly and it was

2324
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:22,840
Speaker 1: executed poorly by one or the other of players and

2325
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 1: it ended up badly. So that's still where I'm at.

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01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 1: Everybody needs to play better, Josh included, day Ball needs

2327
01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 1: to call a little better at times. Everything. This is

2328
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 1: a team that because they were in so many close games,

2329
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,000
Speaker 1: it's very easy and I've been at a ton of them.

2330
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 1: It's very easy for all of those guys in that

2331
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 1: locker room to say, Wow, if I would have done

2332
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 1: just this one play differently, it would have been different.

2333
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 1: And I think the fans are in the same plot

2334
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 1: Ray the call are just now. I think he's in

2335
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 1: the same spot. You go back and you say, man,

2336
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 1: if that one would have been different, and if that

2337
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 1: one would have been different, and it seems to be

2338
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 1: the same reason for both of those, Um, everything would

2339
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 1: have been different. And that's hard. That's a hard play.

2340
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 1: That's a that's a big dark rabbit hole to go down.

2341
01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 1: Many people are still down it. We start there every day.

2342
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:14,840
Speaker 1: This week, welcome this week. We climb out trying to

2343
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 1: get out of it. We're trying to get out of it.

2344
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: And it's been easy today. We're gonna take a break.

2345
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 1: We'll get back. We'll get back in a minute. I'm

2346
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 1: gonna get some more calls and responsive to our question,

2347
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 1: do you expect the Bills to win the AFC East

2348
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty And maybe we'll have time to get

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01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 1: to true and false NFL true and false when we

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01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:31,040
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2355
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Speaker 1: Buffalo four to twenty five yards of offense Sunday more

2356
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 1: than anybody offensively Sunday, believe it or not, So maybe

2357
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 1: you can control another There was another overtime game too,

2358
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:08,080
Speaker 1: so they were in another team. Two teams had an

2359
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 1: opportunity to go play a little extra football to get

2360
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 1: those yards, but they moved one hundred and seventy two

2361
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: yards rushing the Texans against the Texans, the team's most

2362
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 1: in the playoff game since their team record five hundred

2363
01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 1: thirty six yards against Miami and ninety five. That's the

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01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:24,920
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01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: Some of those yards, did you? Yeah, there's a ton

2367
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: of yard. You had a touchdown in that game. I

2368
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 1: had a touchdown in that game, had one hundred eight

2369
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 1: yards in the first half, receiving six receptions for one

2370
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 1: hundred eight yards. And then I sat down. Why don't

2371
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 1: you sit down? I heard a pulled to something. Okay,

2372
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:44,920
Speaker 1: something gave out on how to get shot up. The

2373
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 1: next week in the loss at Pittsburgh, got him. Got

2374
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 1: you on the cover of Sports Illustrated. This play maybe no,

2375
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 1: not this play? This was nice? Yeah, there it is.

2376
01:57:57,320 --> 01:58:00,600
Speaker 1: And then I caught the ball and look at the

2377
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,200
Speaker 1: crowd goes nuts. Guy would let me up. He sat

2378
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 1: there and just hugged me because that was that was

2379
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:07,720
Speaker 1: kind of the nailing the coffin the touchdown I caught.

2380
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:09,800
Speaker 1: It was Don Shula's final game as head coach of

2381
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. When and you talk about how Bill Belichick

2382
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 1: has caused a lot of pain here in Western New York.

2383
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 1: Don Shula did his share as well. Remember that that

2384
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:21,680
Speaker 1: was his last game and we put him you know,

2385
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 1: he went off into into retirement after this game. And

2386
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 1: you know that's so there's one evil empire that went away.

2387
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 1: Finally turned nine years old the other day. Good for him.

2388
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, I've said this before in

2389
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 1: the show. I you know, you always dredge up that

2390
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 1: hatred for the other team's coach. You know, Bill's fans

2391
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: do I mean, how much do you know hate Tom

2392
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 1: Brady and Bill Belichick? And as Bills fans all that,

2393
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 1: it was the same way with Don Shula and Dan

2394
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:46,880
Speaker 1: Marino and all those guys. And then I played for

2395
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:48,560
Speaker 1: Don Shula in a Pro Bowl. He was the head

2396
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 1: coaching this coaching staff out there, and I was like, goshold,

2397
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 1: darn it what he's such a good it's a great dude,

2398
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 1: you know. And then after that it was like it's

2399
01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:00,120
Speaker 1: hard to hard to dredge up the hatred and or

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01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, because he was a good dude. I had

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01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 1: one encounter with him after he was finished coaching. I

2402
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 1: don't know who was coaching, might have been Jimmy Johnson.

2403
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 1: But I asked, you know, Harvey Green, the media relations

2404
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 1: guy for the h Dolphins, can I get Coach Shula

2405
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 1: on a pregame show we're doing on Channel seven. He said,

2406
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 1: let me ask. Ten minutes later he called me, Yeah,

2407
01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:19,440
Speaker 1: Shula says he'll do it. I was like, what, I

2408
01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 1: wasn't ready? He was great. I know, he did it.

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01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:23,600
Speaker 1: He was great. He came out for like fifteen minutes

2410
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 1: for us. You know, he was great, and he get

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01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 1: all this and I'm I'm sure to a certain he said,

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01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 1: Belichick's And I've been in production meets with Bill too,

2413
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 1: Belichick and he is everything he'd want your head coach

2414
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 1: to be. He's And I asked him too about you know,

2415
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:43,120
Speaker 1: stuff off the field, like he started his coaching career

2416
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 1: back in Baltimore, as you know, and he was with

2417
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 1: Teddy Marchibroda. Sure, And I asked him about Teddy. Could

2418
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:50,080
Speaker 1: I love Teddy? He was our offensive coordinator with those

2419
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl years. He put that team together and installed

2420
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 1: that offense that took Jim Kelly and the No huddle.

2421
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:57,480
Speaker 1: He was the guy, and then he went left Buffalo

2422
01:59:57,680 --> 02:00:00,520
Speaker 1: and went to Indianapolis to be the head coach, and

2423
02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 1: I asked him about his relationship, and man, he opened

2424
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 1: up about what it was like to coach with Teddy

2425
02:00:06,280 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 1: and what Teddy's taught him and some of the things

2426
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 1: they did and how important it was for him. It

2427
02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 1: was really cool to hear him talk about that. And

2428
02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:15,080
Speaker 1: so it was kind of the same thing I went

2429
02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:16,600
Speaker 1: through with Shula. You know, you get the guy to

2430
02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:19,400
Speaker 1: open up about some things, you find out he's you know,

2431
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 1: why he's successful. I've never had any kind of close

2432
02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:24,040
Speaker 1: encomment at all with Belichick. But I was thinking about

2433
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:26,800
Speaker 1: this the other day Sunday, after the Patriots had lost

2434
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 1: Saturday night, I was watching they picked at one of

2435
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:31,560
Speaker 1: the networks picked up a live news conference with Belichick.

2436
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:34,240
Speaker 1: And you know what he's like those news conferences, Right,

2437
02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 1: he's monotone right, answers quietly, and he's world class. He's

2438
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 1: not liked it normally. Right, when you're in a meeting

2439
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:42,400
Speaker 1: production meet with him, he's talking like a normal person speaks,

2440
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 1: He's speaks in full sentences. Why does he do that?

2441
02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 1: All the answer to do is just engage for a

2442
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:50,040
Speaker 1: few minutes and then he I know, he just won't

2443
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 1: do it. And I think it goes back to a

2444
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 1: competitive advantage or whatever. But here's the thing, and I've

2445
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:57,560
Speaker 1: said this before and people probably don't realize that who've

2446
02:00:57,600 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 1: never spoken at a group, whereas a scrum where you're

2447
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:03,360
Speaker 1: the guy people are all asking questions of when you're

2448
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:06,320
Speaker 1: the focus of a press conference, I can't tell you

2449
02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:11,080
Speaker 1: how mentally tough you have to be not to say

2450
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:16,720
Speaker 1: anything like a give an example, Marshawn Lynch showed one

2451
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 1: of the most mentally grueling exhibitions I have ever seen

2452
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 1: a guy give when he went on in Super Bowl

2453
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:26,000
Speaker 1: week and said I'm just here so I don't get fine,

2454
02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 1: and he said it a thousand times And to say

2455
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 1: that and only that, I can't tell you how tough

2456
02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:34,880
Speaker 1: that is mentally to get through. And yet he did it.

2457
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:38,400
Speaker 1: And it's hard, but he's done it for twenty years.

2458
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 1: Belichick in New England. I would acknowledge that it had

2459
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:42,920
Speaker 1: to be difficult for Marshawn to do that, but I

2460
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:44,880
Speaker 1: don't think it's cool for him to do that. I

2461
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 1: don't get it. I mean, it's just serving anybody. It

2462
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 1: was a protest. Yes, it's not helping anybody out. And

2463
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 1: tell you that your media guys there some of whom

2464
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 1: we're not going to trip you up and ask bad

2465
02:01:54,080 --> 02:01:56,000
Speaker 1: questions and are trying to do a job, and you're

2466
02:01:56,040 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 1: not helping them out at all. So it's hard for

2467
02:01:58,240 --> 02:02:00,680
Speaker 1: me to just say, yeah, go get him shot. Another

2468
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:04,800
Speaker 1: thing about Belichick, did you hear the question somebody asked

2469
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:07,920
Speaker 1: him about the Patriot fans about what it must have

2470
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:11,680
Speaker 1: meant to the team that the Patriot fans would support

2471
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:13,960
Speaker 1: them through thick and thin, all these through these and

2472
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 1: Belichick had the great answer, and he's the right answer.

2473
02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:18,400
Speaker 1: It's like it hadn't been too thin. It's right. What

2474
02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:20,360
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Thick and thin? That's right? What

2475
02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:25,240
Speaker 1: you have about that asks we've been winning double digit

2476
02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:28,600
Speaker 1: games for ten years, for twenty years, yeah, and what

2477
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:31,920
Speaker 1: are you talking about it? There's the I would I

2478
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 1: would venture to guess they're the worst fan base in

2479
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:37,720
Speaker 1: sports because they're spoiled, and that's what sport they're They're

2480
02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:40,480
Speaker 1: a step they're garbage because they've been spoiled. They're the

2481
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:45,440
Speaker 1: vegetables that were sitting on the on the that weren't eaten.

2482
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 1: They didn't need them. I mean, they're they're spoiled, rotten.

2483
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:55,280
Speaker 1: Wouldn't do that. They didn't even have to show up

2484
02:02:55,680 --> 02:02:57,480
Speaker 1: and listen. I've experienced it too. I was on the

2485
02:02:57,600 --> 02:02:59,640
Speaker 1: sidelines for some of their games, and you look up

2486
02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:03,520
Speaker 1: in the game when it's like nine to six or

2487
02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:07,640
Speaker 1: or thirteen to ten, Miami Dolphins are beating the Patriots,

2488
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:11,440
Speaker 1: and the fans are sitting there going, let's turn this on.

2489
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:16,320
Speaker 1: Let's go, you know, let's let's go. Well, let's let's

2490
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 1: get this game over with. You know. I was like,

2491
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:23,560
Speaker 1: there's no there's no tension. There's never there's never any

2492
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:28,120
Speaker 1: tension in that building. I was unbelievable. So it's rough.

2493
02:03:28,360 --> 02:03:30,280
Speaker 1: It was a great answer for him. Though they go

2494
02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:32,600
Speaker 1: about through thick and thin. He goes, it hasn't been

2495
02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:34,960
Speaker 1: too thin around here very often. He's right, let's see

2496
02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:37,600
Speaker 1: your phone calls Mike in Auburn, New York. Hello, Mike,

2497
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:41,240
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hey, great job, guys, thank you,

2498
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:45,600
Speaker 1: thank you. I think the Bills will go all the way.

2499
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:49,960
Speaker 1: And uh, we have a top five quarterback on our hands,

2500
02:03:50,120 --> 02:03:54,080
Speaker 1: and he's came a long way this year, and we

2501
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:57,120
Speaker 1: need to clean up the blocking a little bit, especially

2502
02:03:57,240 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 1: the lot in the power right there was none, no

2503
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:04,800
Speaker 1: blocking at all. And after he gets hit, after the

2504
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:08,640
Speaker 1: hard hits like that, the next next play he's a

2505
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:12,360
Speaker 1: little rattled and the adrenaline going and everything else. And

2506
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:16,400
Speaker 1: people don't realize that. Mike, you say a top five quarterback,

2507
02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 1: I mean you mean in the future. I mean, what

2508
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:23,840
Speaker 1: do you what's your well pretty quick, I'm saying next year.

2509
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:27,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe when I watched the game again how

2510
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:31,960
Speaker 1: well he was really doing. It's kind of critical of

2511
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Speaker 1: him at first, but yeah, you know, Mike, thank you.

2512
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:37,680
Speaker 1: Called Chris Brown made a pretty good point with us

2513
02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:39,480
Speaker 1: on Monday, and I went back and watched the game

2514
02:04:39,600 --> 02:04:42,960
Speaker 1: on Monday for the second time, and Chris was right.

2515
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:45,800
Speaker 1: He threw some really good passes in the Houston Texans game.

2516
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:48,040
Speaker 1: He made some really bad plays too, but he threw

2517
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:51,280
Speaker 1: some pretty good passes. Um Josh was not, you know,

2518
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:53,200
Speaker 1: stinking it up all over the field in that game.

2519
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:55,200
Speaker 1: There were some really good moments for him and some

2520
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:57,640
Speaker 1: really good passes that he threw in that game. When

2521
02:04:57,720 --> 02:05:01,960
Speaker 1: his motions enough, when his motions comp packed, that ball

2522
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 1: goes right where you wanted to go. I mean he

2523
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:06,160
Speaker 1: ear holds some throws. I mean they were really good.

2524
02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:09,160
Speaker 1: And he does that on a regular basis when his

2525
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:12,480
Speaker 1: feet are set and when his throwing motion stays short,

2526
02:05:13,080 --> 02:05:15,440
Speaker 1: when he starts to get long behind him and starts

2527
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 1: to wind it up, sometimes the ball flutters out of

2528
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:19,880
Speaker 1: his hands or sails or whatever. When he changes the

2529
02:05:20,080 --> 02:05:22,920
Speaker 1: throwing motion a little bit and doesn't keep it come packed.

2530
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:27,960
Speaker 1: Is when he gets more inaccurate. But man, oh man,

2531
02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:30,640
Speaker 1: it's in there where he'll put it where he wants it.

2532
02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:33,840
Speaker 1: When when his motion's right and his feet are set,

2533
02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:37,960
Speaker 1: he's as accurate as anybody. The problem is sometimes you know,

2534
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:40,280
Speaker 1: he's throwing off while he's moving and his feet aren't set,

2535
02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:42,800
Speaker 1: and he's and he's under whatever for whatever reason or

2536
02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:45,280
Speaker 1: for he's just he just hurries the throw. He loses

2537
02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:48,040
Speaker 1: discipline and does it, and then the throws go everywhere.

2538
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 1: Ye but yeah, he's so much different than he was

2539
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:56,720
Speaker 1: a year ago. And now the you know, the issue

2540
02:05:56,760 --> 02:05:58,440
Speaker 1: for all of us is we got to wait another

2541
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:00,680
Speaker 1: eight months to see him throw it again. Let's go

2542
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:03,960
Speaker 1: to Michael and Lancaster. Hello, Michael, go ahead, you're on

2543
02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:07,960
Speaker 1: the air. Hey, guys, are you doing Okay, all right,

2544
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:12,200
Speaker 1: this is what's got me a little dumbfounded. Fourth quarter,

2545
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:16,320
Speaker 1: fourth down, a minute forty five left in the game.

2546
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:22,280
Speaker 1: What do you do? You pumped the ball, don't You're

2547
02:06:22,320 --> 02:06:27,720
Speaker 1: talking about four and twenty seven, fourth and forever. Yeah,

2548
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:30,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was misplayed by

2549
02:06:30,120 --> 02:06:32,080
Speaker 1: the Bills. I thought it was a mistake. Quite frankly.

2550
02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 1: I think we am an agreement within the five and

2551
02:06:36,280 --> 02:06:38,400
Speaker 1: try it and you got I think you have all

2552
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:41,120
Speaker 1: three timeouts left, yes, you do, and because they used

2553
02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 1: them regardless the next series. Yeah, they got the ball

2554
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 1: right back with no timeouts left. And I think here's

2555
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:48,960
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. You want to take a chance

2556
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:52,280
Speaker 1: on a fourth and twenty five, which seems astronam fourth

2557
02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 1: and twenty seven, or do you want to punt them

2558
02:06:54,760 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 1: gain the yardage and have the same thing. You gotta

2559
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:00,240
Speaker 1: get the ball back anyway. It just gives you whatever.

2560
02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:04,000
Speaker 1: But your chances, I believe your chances are are a

2561
02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:06,720
Speaker 1: lot better by trying to pin them within the five.

2562
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 1: Have a guy down there, tend them within the five,

2563
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:12,000
Speaker 1: and then yes, try to get the ball back. It

2564
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:14,480
Speaker 1: would seem that way, but it worked out for the Bills,

2565
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:16,800
Speaker 1: right because the Texans went out, went three and out,

2566
02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:18,800
Speaker 1: tried to go went for it on fourth and one,

2567
02:07:18,920 --> 02:07:20,720
Speaker 1: which they probably should have, and the Bills took over

2568
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:23,000
Speaker 1: and moved it down field. Right. That's why we don't

2569
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:25,200
Speaker 1: talk about that much, because in the end, the Bills

2570
02:07:25,240 --> 02:07:26,640
Speaker 1: got their field goal to tie it up and send

2571
02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:29,720
Speaker 1: it overtime. Right. But now, let's say on the flip side,

2572
02:07:30,520 --> 02:07:32,800
Speaker 1: if they would have punted, tried to pin them down

2573
02:07:32,840 --> 02:07:36,840
Speaker 1: in that in that end zone, and then let's say

2574
02:07:36,840 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 1: they stopped them they hit a punt. Now we get

2575
02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:41,440
Speaker 1: the ball back with three timeouts left. Well, no, you

2576
02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:44,200
Speaker 1: use times, you have to use them, and they would

2577
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:46,120
Speaker 1: have to use them, hopefully, right, hopefully we get the

2578
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:48,240
Speaker 1: ball back on the fifty, run it up a little

2579
02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:50,080
Speaker 1: bit and try to tie the game or even go

2580
02:07:50,160 --> 02:07:54,320
Speaker 1: ahead and in touchdown. Yeah, that's and I see your point,

2581
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, Mike. Here's the thing. It becomes a moot

2582
02:07:57,880 --> 02:07:59,880
Speaker 1: point when it works out the way the Bills needed

2583
02:08:00,160 --> 02:08:01,920
Speaker 1: to work out anyway, because they got the field goal

2584
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:05,080
Speaker 1: to tie it, and then there's then there's another game

2585
02:08:05,120 --> 02:08:07,800
Speaker 1: of football to be played, and everything gets all the wash.

2586
02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:10,080
Speaker 1: But you're right, that fourth and twenty five goes away,

2587
02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:13,520
Speaker 1: and the only reason it's not people aren't And I

2588
02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 1: get it, it still matters. But the only reason people

2589
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:19,160
Speaker 1: aren't standing on the table throwing up a fit over

2590
02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:22,200
Speaker 1: it is because it worked out the way the Bills

2591
02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:24,640
Speaker 1: needed it too. They got to stop use their timeouts,

2592
02:08:24,680 --> 02:08:26,040
Speaker 1: went down and got the field goal to send it

2593
02:08:26,120 --> 02:08:28,640
Speaker 1: to overtime. So that's why that that fourth and twenty

2594
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:30,840
Speaker 1: five kind of gets lost in the wash. Thanks for

2595
02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:33,200
Speaker 1: your call, one more quick one, Joe and chetowaga, Joe,

2596
02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:36,960
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Yeah, you know, I'm

2597
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:41,360
Speaker 1: talking about these critics in the paper and the TV

2598
02:08:41,560 --> 02:08:45,600
Speaker 1: stations that keep saying, oh you're about is Josh how

2599
02:08:45,640 --> 02:08:48,640
Speaker 1: long going to be our franchise quarterback? Over and over again?

2600
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:51,280
Speaker 1: And I say, well, who else do you have? And

2601
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:53,520
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Wait another thirty years to

2602
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:56,840
Speaker 1: find another one and keep looking at the draft to

2603
02:08:56,960 --> 02:08:59,720
Speaker 1: see if we can get a high draft choice. The

2604
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:03,640
Speaker 1: good another quarterback, plus the fact that he's doing pretty

2605
02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:07,800
Speaker 1: well I like him to watch. Yeah, I agree with that,

2606
02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:12,320
Speaker 1: and I think, um, I'll speak for myself. I'm reluctant

2607
02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:16,040
Speaker 1: to crown anyone as he's a franchise quarterback or he's

2608
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:18,520
Speaker 1: a number one receiver, but Josh Allen, you can win

2609
02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:22,720
Speaker 1: a lot with Josh Allen. And I think we've spent

2610
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:26,360
Speaker 1: the whole season evaluating his viability as a franchise quarterback,

2611
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:28,000
Speaker 1: and I think he's passed the test. I really do.

2612
02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not gonna go every street corner and stand

2613
02:09:31,320 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 1: out at a soapbox to say we got our franchise

2614
02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:35,400
Speaker 1: quarterback now. But I believe that they do have their

2615
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:38,400
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback until he proves it, until he gets them

2616
02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:41,560
Speaker 1: deep in the playoffs and wins playoff games and goes

2617
02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:43,200
Speaker 1: to the championship game, or even go to the Super

2618
02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:44,880
Speaker 1: Bowl and wins it or lose it. Whatever, if he

2619
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, however far his career takes him, you know

2620
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:49,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna have this conversation. But the question is this,

2621
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:52,040
Speaker 1: right now, do you think he's good enough now and

2622
02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:55,440
Speaker 1: gonna get better or good enough in the future to

2623
02:09:55,560 --> 02:09:57,360
Speaker 1: be a guy you can win a championship with or

2624
02:09:57,480 --> 02:10:01,680
Speaker 1: contend for a championships with consistently? Right now? You gotta think, yeah,

2625
02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:03,880
Speaker 1: I think that's still on the table for him now.

2626
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what it would take for that to

2627
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:08,000
Speaker 1: all go away. All of a sudden, But I don't

2628
02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:10,919
Speaker 1: think it will. I think we've seen him improve and develop,

2629
02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:14,720
Speaker 1: both statistically and with the eye test. Just watching him play,

2630
02:10:14,760 --> 02:10:16,560
Speaker 1: he looks better than he did. Certainly they came up

2631
02:10:16,600 --> 02:10:19,440
Speaker 1: short on Saturday, but this is a team that was

2632
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:21,080
Speaker 1: ten and six. They were tough to beat, and he

2633
02:10:21,200 --> 02:10:24,120
Speaker 1: was getting better and better. So that's the real question.

2634
02:10:24,480 --> 02:10:26,640
Speaker 1: Is he the guy that we're all going to say,

2635
02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:27,960
Speaker 1: all right, you know what, I'm ready to go with

2636
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:29,840
Speaker 1: this guy and go as far as he can take us.

2637
02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:33,320
Speaker 1: And I think most Bills fans are there, no matter

2638
02:10:33,400 --> 02:10:35,040
Speaker 1: what it means. Down the few, we know, there's gonna

2639
02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:36,640
Speaker 1: have to be some help around him. It's gonna have

2640
02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 1: to have a good defense, at least for the time being.

2641
02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:40,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to have this great defense and a

2642
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:43,120
Speaker 1: running game and all that. But for the time being,

2643
02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:45,520
Speaker 1: I think we're all willing to wait on him for

2644
02:10:45,600 --> 02:10:47,840
Speaker 1: his development, to see where he's at when he's fully

2645
02:10:48,080 --> 02:10:50,600
Speaker 1: the guy he's gonna be, and let's take our chances

2646
02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:52,720
Speaker 1: with him. All right to break here it's one Bill's side,

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Speaker 1: equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. Field Yates of

2651
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:19,360
Speaker 1: the NFL on ESPN joined us. You talked about how

2652
02:11:19,400 --> 02:11:24,320
Speaker 1: the Bills can improve their offense next season. The most

2653
02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:26,720
Speaker 1: important thing for Josh, and this might be out of

2654
02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:31,520
Speaker 1: their control, is continuity. I think having you know, certainly,

2655
02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:33,920
Speaker 1: the offensive line will be another focus this year. There

2656
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:36,960
Speaker 1: were guys that would or added on one year contracts

2657
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:40,640
Speaker 1: and free agency. That's either we're part of the picture

2658
02:11:40,720 --> 02:11:43,760
Speaker 1: this year, like John Foliciano or Quentin Spain. I believe

2659
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:47,040
Speaker 1: it was a one year deal as well. But the

2660
02:11:47,200 --> 02:11:49,600
Speaker 1: skill players look pretty good to me. I think, you know,

2661
02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:54,080
Speaker 1: could you add another wide receiver with a bit more size, Sure,

2662
02:11:54,520 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 1: and maybe this is a good year to do it,

2663
02:11:56,760 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 1: but I thought that John Brown and Colt Beasley gave

2664
02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:02,600
Speaker 1: them plenty. William certainly had his moments, and then I

2665
02:12:02,640 --> 02:12:04,400
Speaker 1: think that Dawson Knox is gonna be a real player

2666
02:12:04,440 --> 02:12:07,040
Speaker 1: for them as well. So I think continuity is important.

2667
02:12:08,040 --> 02:12:10,520
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas on the show for the former offensive lineman

2668
02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:12,960
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Brown We asked him if Brian Dable

2669
02:12:13,320 --> 02:12:16,240
Speaker 1: is a potential candidate, a real live candidate for the

2670
02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:20,040
Speaker 1: head coaching job in Cleveland. But he was one of

2671
02:12:20,080 --> 02:12:22,280
Speaker 1: the guys that I mentioned to ownership that I think

2672
02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:24,120
Speaker 1: they should definitely talk to. He was a guy that

2673
02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:26,960
Speaker 1: maybe doesn't get as much hype, But I always think

2674
02:12:27,000 --> 02:12:29,120
Speaker 1: that the guys that get the most type sometimes aren't

2675
02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:31,400
Speaker 1: the best candidates. And I think we've seen that throughout

2676
02:12:31,480 --> 02:12:33,800
Speaker 1: history that sometimes the best hires are the guys that

2677
02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:35,520
Speaker 1: you don't know very well. And with day Ball, he's

2678
02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:37,560
Speaker 1: a guy that has a broad base of experience. He's

2679
02:12:37,560 --> 02:12:39,720
Speaker 1: worked for Nick Saban a couple of times, he's worked

2680
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:42,280
Speaker 1: for Bill Belichick. He's been an offensive coordinator a bunch

2681
02:12:42,320 --> 02:12:44,480
Speaker 1: of different places. And I think that broad base of

2682
02:12:44,560 --> 02:12:47,560
Speaker 1: experience makes you a great candidate because you can draw

2683
02:12:47,720 --> 02:12:49,800
Speaker 1: from all those different guys that you've worked with and

2684
02:12:49,880 --> 02:12:51,920
Speaker 1: figure out this is what I like, this is what

2685
02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't like, and you can become the best version

2686
02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:57,440
Speaker 1: of yourself as a head coach. Joe Thomas talking about

2687
02:12:57,760 --> 02:13:00,560
Speaker 1: Ryan Dable, Hey, we had a pretty I didn't like

2688
02:13:00,560 --> 02:13:02,440
Speaker 1: today Twitter poll, but we got a lot of response.

2689
02:13:02,680 --> 02:13:04,720
Speaker 1: Do you expect the Bills to win the AFC East

2690
02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:07,760
Speaker 1: next season. We had sixteen hundred votes in sixty nine

2691
02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:10,280
Speaker 1: percent of you. Two thirds say yeah, I expect it, duh.

2692
02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:14,320
Speaker 1: Nineteen percent said only if Tom Brady has gone, and

2693
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:18,160
Speaker 1: twelve percent said no, not yet. It's stupid. The last

2694
02:13:18,200 --> 02:13:22,400
Speaker 1: two answers, You're an idiot if you answered that way. Look,

2695
02:13:22,440 --> 02:13:24,880
Speaker 1: the reason I agreed to that Twitter poll, Steve, is

2696
02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:26,800
Speaker 1: because I want to turn the page to look forward

2697
02:13:27,080 --> 02:13:29,360
Speaker 1: and not backward. We made a couple of steps in

2698
02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:32,640
Speaker 1: that direction today, but not enough, Steve. Well, we'll get there.

2699
02:13:32,720 --> 02:13:34,720
Speaker 1: We got a couple we need to help from you. Well,

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02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:36,560
Speaker 1: you know you can't start out the show by saying, oh,

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02:13:37,480 --> 02:13:39,800
Speaker 1: I'll admit that I was I'm a I'm a lagging

2702
02:13:39,880 --> 02:13:43,480
Speaker 1: influence on the on the emotional content of the show

2703
02:13:43,840 --> 02:13:47,120
Speaker 1: this week. But tomorrow's a new day. I'll be ready

2704
02:13:47,160 --> 02:13:49,040
Speaker 1: to turn them. We'll start thinking about the games coming

2705
02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:52,240
Speaker 1: up this weekend and all of that stuff. So will

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Speaker 1: be joining us tomorrow. He's always good, and Ross Tucker

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02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:56,320
Speaker 1: joined us to hope he's not a downer. No, he

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02:13:56,440 --> 02:13:58,000
Speaker 1: may still be. He may still be in a funk.

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