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Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for adopting my brother's affair baby?

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Speaker 2: Want to adopt your own? A fair baby? Why your brothers?

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Speaker 1: Great question, Riley. Let just answer the question when is

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Speaker 1: adoption not the answer? And it comes from Honey Deal

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Speaker 1: fifty one to sixty four, who says, I twenty six

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Speaker 1: female and in a long term committed a relationship with

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Speaker 1: another woman twenty three female. Both of us have always

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Speaker 1: known that we wanted children, and we've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of discussions about just how that might happen.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, pretty young for that kind of conversation.

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Speaker 1: That is true.

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Speaker 3: Actually, that is that is a young coulp.

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Speaker 1: And to have always had that conversation, that's I mean

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Speaker 1: in their super early twenties and maybe even nineteen, depending

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Speaker 1: on how long they were together, who knows, even teenagers.

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Speaker 1: My brother Roy thirty four female cheated on Oh wait

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Speaker 1: wait wait.

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Speaker 2: Sorry they're both. Oh I just realized they're both it's

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Speaker 2: a lesbian couple. Yeah, but that's still that didn't regis

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Speaker 2: that's still young. That's still young to talk about kids though. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Perron.

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Speaker 1: So my brother Roy thirty four male cheated on his

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Speaker 1: wife thirty two females with a younger woman Mary one female.

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Speaker 3: Yeah dang.

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Speaker 1: He had been carrying on an affair with her for

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Speaker 1: about two years. Mary says that nothing started until she

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Speaker 1: was eighteen, for what it's worth. Oh, when you have

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Speaker 1: to clarify that.

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Speaker 3: God.

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Speaker 1: However, all of this came to light when she got

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Speaker 1: pregnant and came to our family. Broy wanted her to abort,

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Speaker 1: but she wasn't comfortable with that, and he convinced her

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Speaker 1: to go with adoption instead. Ultimately, this caused major trouble.

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Speaker 3: In his marriage.

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Speaker 2: Gee, really, who would have thought?

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Speaker 3: Who would have funk?

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Speaker 1: Oh? My god, our family all have come to known

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Speaker 1: Mary and my partner and I actually ended up offering her.

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Speaker 3: A lot of support.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: He's pretty chill, pretty chill, very gracious, too gracious, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: We genuinely became friends with her as well. Mary is

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Speaker 1: not in a position to be raising a child, and

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Speaker 1: she's not really interested in motherhood. However, my partner has

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Speaker 1: had a little bit of baby fever and she's asked

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Speaker 1: if we could be the ones to adopt Mary's kid Riley. Yes,

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Speaker 1: why don't we do a poll for our beautiful exclusive

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Speaker 1: members adopt or not.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious how the people feel because also, this is

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Speaker 1: a very rare. One of the pros I think is

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Speaker 1: it's a very rare opportunity to for No, it's not

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Speaker 1: a rare opportunity, but it's an opportunity for them to

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Speaker 1: have a child that is related to them by blood.

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Speaker 1: Now they could just use one of their eggs. Oh

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Speaker 1: what if they had this child and then they had

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Speaker 1: the other woman use one of her eggs, and then

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Speaker 1: they have two children that are both related to one

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Speaker 1: of each other.

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Speaker 2: That would be cool.

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Speaker 3: That would be cool if they like they inseminate. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The only bad part about all of this is that

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Speaker 2: the family will be reminded of his like accident. But

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Speaker 2: I hope that the kid won't always be looked at

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Speaker 2: it as that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense, not.

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Speaker 1: An accident though, it's a well, well, the kid's inception

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Speaker 1: is an accident, but the act to do it was Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that I think is one of the cons. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like the baby will kind of forever like his wife, ops,

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Speaker 1: sister in law. Maybe too much, Maybe it might be

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Speaker 1: too much, but we'll see.

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Speaker 2: We got ninety five percent, yes.

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Speaker 1: Percent, Yes, ninety five percent. Yes, we'll see if it

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Speaker 1: changes the time goes on. But that's very interesting. So

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Speaker 1: our state actually makes private adoptions pretty straightforward. So we

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Speaker 1: made the arrangements through an attorney. Mary was happy about this,

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Speaker 1: and we told her that we'd be glad to have

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Speaker 1: her in the baby's life as it fits her ability

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Speaker 1: to be around. Mary gave birth to our beautiful daughter, Sabrina,

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Speaker 1: and Sabrina has been living with my partner and I

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Speaker 1: ever since.

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Speaker 3: Legally I am her mother.

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Speaker 1: Nice my parents have been thrilled about this because they

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Speaker 1: love the idea of having their grain kid around. They've

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Speaker 1: been a great help and are constantly helping us look

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Speaker 1: after our daughter. Roy the birrother, however, is severely unhappy

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Speaker 1: about this to say the least. Uh, maybe you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have had an affair, baby slash an affair?

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Speaker 2: How about them?

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Speaker 1: How about that? He didn't want us to adopt Sabrina

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Speaker 1: And he says that her being around at family functions

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Speaker 1: and in everyone's lives so much is upsetting his wife.

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Speaker 2: To what we predict, Predica, actions have consequences.

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Speaker 3: Actions have consequences. You have to do with them.

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Speaker 1: They've reconciled more or less and she's kind of stuck

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Speaker 1: with him. Oh, she's been a stay at home parent

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Speaker 1: since she was twenty, and there are reasons why a

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Speaker 1: divorce might not go well for her, but he says

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Speaker 1: that Sabrina is still a constant storre point, it kind

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Speaker 1: of sounds like she's literally just there because she's like,

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Speaker 1: I have literally been a stay at home mom for

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Speaker 1: so long that it would be in a massive upheaval

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Speaker 1: to my life to have to like change that's a

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Speaker 1: whole lifestyle that I have to completely change, which I

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Speaker 1: very much sympathize with. Yeah, I can totally understand that,

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Speaker 1: but it does kind of suck. As now his wife

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Speaker 1: not that she should be able to stop the adoption,

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Speaker 1: I don't think, but like you know, but ope, he says.

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Speaker 1: Both Roy and his wife are resolutely child free, and

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Speaker 1: his wife had literally threatened to divorce him if he

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Speaker 1: ever attempted to gain custody over Sabrina.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Roy says there were a million other ways that my

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Speaker 1: partner or I could have gotten a baby, and that

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Speaker 1: it was selfish and aholish to force quote unquote his

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Speaker 1: mistress's baby back into their life after he was trying

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Speaker 1: you repair of things. Bro again, you are the one

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Speaker 1: that caused all of this, and honestly, I what's the

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Speaker 1: pull out right now? And Harlan Baker says, thanks for

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Speaker 1: the don't know, the brother can get over it. He

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Speaker 1: was the one who cheated without protection. Op is giving

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Speaker 1: the child a good life. That's the thing is like

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Speaker 1: the child now not only as great adoptive parents, but

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Speaker 1: is now going to have the birth mom in their life.

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Speaker 1: This is honestly the best I think still the best

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Speaker 1: case scenario. Maybe we read more and maybe we change

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Speaker 2: Like second best case Roy taking ownership and being a

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Speaker 2: good father and the wife being okay with it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: actually yeah, that's this is honestly probably better than that

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Speaker 2: because Roy and the wife are not really good people.

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Speaker 2: So this is the best choice, listen, giving if Roy

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Speaker 2: was a better person, second best, but given the scenario,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because they both were like, we want to be

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Speaker 1: child free. So if the child was actually taken care

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Speaker 1: you know, child free once in tendencies, it probably would

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Speaker 1: not be a good situation child. So yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: this is a very good scenario for the kid. I

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Speaker 1: think at least does it right now. He's repeatedly pointed

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Speaker 1: out that my partner still thinks she might want to

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Speaker 1: get pregnant at some point soon, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: I haven't denied that I might be pregnant someday as

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Speaker 1: reasons why we should have let Sabrina go to some

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Speaker 1: other family where quote unquote she won't automatically cause trouble.

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Speaker 1: He is also not only upset about Sabrina being in

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Speaker 1: He really hates her because he feels like she tried

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Speaker 1: to baby trap him. You know, did you ever consider

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Speaker 1: hating yourself for causing the pain to your wife? It

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Speaker 1: seems it seems as if everyone else is getting blamed

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Speaker 1: except for you.

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Speaker 3: You are blaming everyone.

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Speaker 1: Except for yourself. Whoa, Oh my god, stop, sit down

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Speaker 1: and shut up. This couldn't be further from the truth,

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Speaker 1: as she never wanted to keep the baby one way

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Speaker 1: She did not baby trap. Asked to how she got pregnant.

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Speaker 1: They were using protection and he thought that she was

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Speaker 1: also on birth control. Mary had admitted that she lied

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Speaker 1: side effects and he was using protection anyways, She admits

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Speaker 1: this was dumb. She's pretty sure she got pregnant when

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Speaker 1: Roy got kind of lazy slash impatient and used the

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Speaker 1: same protection for a second round. Roy is absolutely furious

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Speaker 1: at her, and he thinks that she did it on purpose,

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Speaker 1: but she didn't and besides that, she was like nineteen

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Speaker 3: It faulls.

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Speaker 2: He Oh yeah, dude, Roy, you're not in a good part.

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Speaker 1: Dude, Roy, Roy, he's upset about the fact that we

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Speaker 1: don't plan on keeping his paternity secret when Sabrina is

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Speaker 3: This is your mistake.

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Speaker 1: It has consequences, as Riley said, and he has repeatedly

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Speaker 1: said that the problem was solved and we unsolved it.

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Speaker 2: Oh die.

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Speaker 1: Roy used to be our parents' favorite. He has a

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Speaker 1: very prestigious, very high paying job, and he's their firstborn son,

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Speaker 1: was always the kind of family weirdo, and my parents

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Speaker 1: and that I'd settled down with a man to give

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Speaker 2: Paying I felt like I've met this family before.

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Speaker 1: Probably He's like, I do you live in Tennessee, North Carolina?

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Speaker 2: Do you live in Alfaretta, Georgia? Oh wow, that's specifically sorry.

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Speaker 2: Well that was a little too.

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Speaker 1: Almost doxing, but not really edge doxing, edge doing doxing

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Speaker 3: Off this the ski by Deaddy.

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Speaker 1: Now, however, Roy has gotten tons of flak from them,

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Speaker 1: and they've been practically showering my partner and me with

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Speaker 3: He is clearly very very jealous.

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Speaker 1: Roy was sad that I brought Sabrina into a fed

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Speaker 1: up family situation and that I should have let her

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Speaker 1: he has come dangerously close to implying that it's wrong

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Speaker 1: of me to be raising her in a non married,

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Speaker 1: semi open relationship between two women rather than in a traditional, married,

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Speaker 1: heterosexual household. I've told him that he can shove his

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Speaker 1: implications and that any part of this that's a problem

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Speaker 1: for him is his own dang fault. Some of my

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Speaker 1: friends slash acquaintances have expressed limited sympathy for Roy and

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Speaker 1: said that they can understand how I'm effing up his life, though,

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Speaker 1: But I disagree. The affair happened, and I don't feel

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Speaker 1: like he should be relying on his wife forgetting about

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Speaker 1: it by just keeping it out of sight and out

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Speaker 1: of mind, like she's a goldfish or something. Am I

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Speaker 1: the a hole four? Adopting my brother's affair daughter Riley?

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Speaker 1: Can we see where the pole has? The story is over?

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Speaker 3: Where's the poll?

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Speaker 2: Adopt? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Ninety three percent yes on adopt, And I have to

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think that this is a very very you know

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Speaker 1: maybe that's like the most like insane dream scenario, but

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Speaker 3: The best case for the baby.

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Speaker 1: Roy literally never wants MJ grow. He needs to accept

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Speaker 1: And so it's like before he can make like he

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Speaker 1: I believe does not have the right to make those comments.

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Speaker 3: And even if he.

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Speaker 1: Accepted accountability, I don't think so, but you have if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna make those comments, you have to bear the barest, bearest,

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Speaker 1: barest of minimums is to accept your own accountability of

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Speaker 1: like I was the one that she did, Like I

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Speaker 1: you know, used same protection twice, was lazy, like these

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Speaker 1: an affair, and you're not using protection wisely. So it's like, dude,

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Speaker 1: what more you gotta say?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, ridiculous, ridiculous, ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Ridiculous Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: That is all. Let's get into the second story, right

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Speaker 1: freaking now, are you ready, Riley?

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for telling my dad's husband

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Speaker 1: I don't want him to adopt me?

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Speaker 2: Trial is up?

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Speaker 1: Yes, you cannot subscribe, you cannot renew, And this is

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Speaker 1: the answer. When is adoption not the answer? Which we

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Speaker 2: This reverse adopting.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, well, I think we have to find out from

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Speaker 1: minimum suck Atash fifty two to six, who says, I,

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Speaker 1: sixteen male, have two dads, one passed away before I

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Speaker 1: was born. Daddy, all right, he was my non biological

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Speaker 1: my auntie Jija. So my dad is my bio parent

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Speaker 1: and my daddy's widower. And yeah, I say dad and

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Speaker 1: daddy and still say daddy as a sixteen year old guy.

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Speaker 2: Oh that he calls him now, he calls him in

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Speaker 2: this world in the times that you're in. You're in

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Speaker 1: He's ignowledging it's different.

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Speaker 3: He's acknowledging it's weird.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. Dad always referred to daddy as daddy, so

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Speaker 1: I use it. So I'm like, I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's.

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Speaker 3: He knows what he's getting into.

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Speaker 2: You want to give me that white board?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Or do you want to do the white board?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Why don't I pass it over to you?

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. I feel like it's good for the

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Speaker 3: Okay, So basically let me.

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Speaker 1: I got to run this down to make sure I

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Speaker 1: understand it. So two dads, Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: so two dads, two gay daddies.

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Speaker 2: What's one dad's name?

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Speaker 1: One passed away, there's non biodad and.

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Speaker 2: Biodad is a non biodad dead.

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Speaker 1: The non Biodad is the one that's deceased. The bio

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Speaker 1: dad is still alive, Biodad is still alive. And then

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Speaker 1: Dad still alive. Biodaddy so much better than dude, right,

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Speaker 1: she kind of crushes it. And then finally Auntie Jija.

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Speaker 1: She's the surrogate, so she's his biological mother, so his

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Speaker 1: his biological dad and mother are both still alive, both

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Speaker 1: still alive. Talas Muffin says. The father passed so young,

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Speaker 1: so calling him daddy fear forever isn't weird?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, Daddy's dead.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the the no what let's call them non bio

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, who is daddy? Okay, give me daddy

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Speaker 2: one more time?

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes, Daddy is dead and he's a non biophile

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Speaker 1: and Dad is the biofaux and then Auntie Gija is the.

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Speaker 2: All right boom, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: This is not good whatsoever, but this is what I got.

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Speaker 2: Daddy dead.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there we go, all right, I think it might

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Speaker 1: be good. Four hosts do yeah, whatever, we have more hosts.

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Speaker 3: But we got it.

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Speaker 2: We got i'm as Sofia.

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Speaker 3: Yes we miss Sophia. You'll be here soon. He'll be

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Speaker 3: the here soon, but actually very soon.

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Speaker 1: So a month before I was born, Daddy, my non

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Speaker 1: Because of where we live. Even back then, my non

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Speaker 1: he won the case and thanks to Auntie Jija again

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Speaker 1: his biological mom and other family members recognizing my two

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Speaker 1: dads as Opie's dads. I grew up always knowing about

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Speaker 1: Daddy and I always cherished a connection to him. I

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Speaker 1: Auntie jjus. When I was four, my bio dad tried

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Speaker 1: about three months. The biodad wasn't ready and Sam didn't

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Speaker 1: like what he saw. He felt jealous and insecure that

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Speaker 1: so I guess he's like frustrated that he wasn't being

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Speaker 1: reconnected when I was eight and got married when I

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Speaker 1: was twelve. My relationship with Sam's complicated and weird, and

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Speaker 1: he wants to adopt me, but I don't want him

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Speaker 1: to be my dad. I don't want to be adopted

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Speaker 1: by him or have him take care of me if

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Speaker 1: I become an orphan. He has always made it a

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Speaker 1: biofather in the first place, and how legally it was

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Speaker 3: I hate it. It feels gross.

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Speaker 1: He told me, at least i'll know him while Daddy

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Speaker 1: is someone who's just saintly in my mind because I

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Speaker 1: I think he's saying like, except you know, I'm also

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Speaker 1: your non bio dad, and the fact that like you

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Speaker 3: It was there we go, there we go.

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Speaker 1: Even though I know I was raised by one parent,

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Speaker 1: but I still had two. Just wasn't a sweet But

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Speaker 1: I read the book he was putting together for me.

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Speaker 1: He documented a lot of the parenting journey in surrogacy

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Speaker 1: stuff and the pregnancy until his death.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, he was so excited. He loved me so much.

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Speaker 1: He wanted me so badly. Oh right in the fields.

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Speaker 1: On Father's Day, we had a big fight over adoption.

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Speaker 1: Dad was out and Sam brought up the adoption to me.

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Speaker 1: He told me he's tired of feeling like an outsider

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Speaker 1: because I always treat him like Dad's spouse instead of

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Speaker 1: accept that. I told him nothing changed for me. He

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Speaker 1: told me, it's stupid because I love one stepdad so

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Speaker 1: much more. Buddy, Buddy, that was his original parent that

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Speaker 1: passed away, That left this amazing momentum, Like, you can't

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Speaker 1: I told him Daddy is more than just a stepdad.

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Speaker 1: And then I told him I don't want him to

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Speaker 1: I told him, if anything, he's making me wish Dad

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Speaker 1: had found someone better.

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Speaker 2: On Father's Day.

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Speaker 1: On Father's Day, dude, you're right. Dad doesn't know what happened.

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Speaker 1: But things have been tense since Sam and I went

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Speaker 1: too far? Am I the ale? We have relevant comments,

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Speaker 1: we have an update, but ladies and gentlemen, we need

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Speaker 1: to stop right here, right now. So, like sam Is

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Speaker 1: and I have a slight conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 2: Tell it. Here's Sam.

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Speaker 3: Here we go there he is sam Is.

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Speaker 1: I think Sam is just trying to win the approval

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Speaker 1: this guy. I want him to like have a positive

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Speaker 1: view on me. I think he's doing it more to

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Speaker 1: Maybe there is a part of him that once of

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Speaker 1: theory is that that that's his actual true main motive here,

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Speaker 1: That's basically what he's trying to do. And it's like

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Speaker 1: the more you try to force, especially because he is

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Speaker 1: still a kid, he's a sixteen year old teenager. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course he's gonna like lash out at you. The

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Speaker 1: big question I have, and maybe we could throw up

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Speaker 1: a pole for this, is is Opie the ahole?

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Speaker 3: For what he said?

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Speaker 1: And let me like read it back, both for you

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Speaker 1: if anything, he's making me wish Dad had found someone better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, I will say so Sam definitely the

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Speaker 1: a hole, Yes, op.

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Speaker 3: Kind of the a hole. But I totally understand.

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Speaker 2: Justified a hole.

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Speaker 1: I I don't know if I would say justified. I

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Speaker 1: think my asterisk would be I totally understand that he's emotional.

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Speaker 3: He's like teenager.

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Speaker 1: This is about his deceased dad, who he loves very much.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he is justified, Maybe he's justified. I think I

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Speaker 1: I just understand his a holary.

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Speaker 2: You know, Chad is disagreeing with you like crazy, it's

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Speaker 2: six ninety seven percent. No, not the a hole. I

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Speaker 2: think there was a line that needed to be placed,

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Speaker 2: and by doing this, this was the way Op was

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Speaker 2: able to make that look.

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Speaker 3: Get the message clear that.

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Speaker 1: I think that is a brilliant point because this got

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Speaker 1: Sam was just not getting it. And so it's like,

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Speaker 1: I kinda it's gonna sting, but like you need to

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Speaker 1: understand and learn this boundary and it's not He's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's been quiet, like things have been tense. I think

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Speaker 1: the message is finally sinked in that he can't just

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Speaker 1: keep like forcing, you know, as Titan Summers say, not

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Speaker 1: the ahole, as Sam keeps pushing, like Sam keeps trying

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Speaker 1: to push and force to be the level basically and

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Speaker 1: want and want to be ort a minimum, want or

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Speaker 1: agree to be adopted. You know, I'll change my mind.

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Speaker 1: I'll go with justified justified a whole as well. Like

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Speaker 1: it's not a great thing to say, but I totally

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Speaker 1: get it, and I don't even fault him, Like I

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Speaker 1: really don't fault him honestly at all.

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Speaker 2: I feel like people don't fight anymore. They just fight

445
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,040
Speaker 2: with their words now and you, my boy John, are

446
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,679
Speaker 2: not a fighter in those aspects. You don't fight people.

447
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,800
Speaker 2: He's a lover, dude, He's a lover. He'll he'll try

448
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,600
Speaker 2: to figure out the best way to communicate something like that.

449
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 3: That's true.

450
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 2: That's that's where he's coming from. Sometimes you gotta fight

451
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 2: with your words. You gotta be like, hey, back off, Sam.

452
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:33,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

453
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Speaker 1: I think, uh, even though maybe it makes him the

454
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 1: quote unquote justified a whole, I think that's actually what

455
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Speaker 1: he needed to say.

456
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Speaker 3: Maybe that he's not the ahole. Maybe I'll change my

457
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Speaker 3: mind completely.

458
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Speaker 1: By the ladies and gentlemen, we have some relevant comments here,

459
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Speaker 1: so oh.

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Speaker 2: The relevant comments.

461
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh no, something happening in response to me

462
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 1: now deleted comment. My dad would be on my side here.

463
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Speaker 1: He never wanted Sam to take the place of my

464
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: second dad slash parent. He's always just a partner for him.

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Speaker 1: I am also not denying myself love. Sam is the

466
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Speaker 1: not buying it by making it him versus daddy.

467
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 3: That is true.

468
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 1: Sam has been like angling it very like. I'm not

469
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Speaker 1: trying to replace him. I just you know, want to

470
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Speaker 1: be here, to be apparent to you. He has tried

471
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 1: to compete since I was four years old when he

472
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,160
Speaker 1: and dad had a short thing.

473
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Speaker 2: Interesting.

474
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Speaker 1: A top commentary said, you need to really talk to

475
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 1: your dad and tell him everything that is actually big facts.

476
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 1: Does your dad know about what Sam is doing? Sam

477
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,120
Speaker 1: has no right to try and erase your daddy, regardless

478
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: if you met him or not. He is still and

479
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,640
Speaker 1: always will be your daddy. You're not the a hole. Sam, however,

480
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: is an a hole. Yeah, Honestly, go to the dad.

481
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 1: Go to the dad and tell him everything, because if

482
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Speaker 1: the dad is a good father, he should be Like, Yo, Sam,

483
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? Like it's protect the kid

484
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 1: at all costs, because again, like we're growing up, like

485
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 1: we have way more tools and whatever as like grown adults,

486
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 1: and he's carrying, you know, these different traumas and this

487
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 1: very negative experience of his father passing away, his other

488
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: father passing away. Opie responds to, Actually, dad doesn't know.

489
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Speaker 1: I always knew this would be the end of their

490
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Speaker 1: marriage if he Oh, dude, I want my dad to

491
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: be happy, so I kept quiet. But I guess that's

492
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: not such a great idea anymore, especially if it comes

493
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Speaker 1: out in a more explosive way eventually. Dude, this kid

494
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: just wants to see his dad happy. I mean his

495
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: partner literally passed away. Yeah, Like that is such a

496
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Speaker 1: hard you probably don't ever fully heal from it. You

497
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: just kind of like regain your ability to operate in

498
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: life again.

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Speaker 3: I would.

500
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Speaker 1: I can only speculate and imagine because I've never been

501
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,719
Speaker 1: through anything close to like that, so I don't have

502
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: the full whereth all on right to speak on that fully. Uh,

503
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: but dang, dude, Yeah, I think I think he should

504
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: definitely tell that.

505
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I yeah, because you're gonna you're

506
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: gonna be seeing this guy for Christmas, Thanksgiving, all the holidays.

507
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 1: And like, actually this is a favor to the dad

508
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want The reason why he would break

509
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: up is he doesn't want to be in a relationship

510
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: with a partner.

511
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Speaker 3: Who would treat his child like that.

512
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 2: Mm hm.

513
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: That is like that clearly shows it's like that's just

514
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: him like learning the truth.

515
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

516
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah on Auntie Jija, she was a surrogate.

517
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 1: But my dad's or my parents on my birth certificate,

518
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: what would happen if op He's dad passed away. I

519
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: would be with family if something happened to my dad,

520
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: not Sam. So yeah, as of right, now, yeah, one

521
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: of the things that Sam mentioned, which actually is you know,

522
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: probably important, especially considering literally what happened to his other dad,

523
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: and he probably has a big fear and anxiety over this.

524
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Speaker 1: If his current living bio dad passes away and Sam

525
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 1: is also his parent, he would then live with Sam

526
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: versus right now.

527
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Speaker 3: The plan is like he.

528
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Speaker 1: Would go and just live with his other family mm hmm,

529
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: which is like yeah, He's like, yeah, I would wait

530
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: prefer that over living with Sam. Opie did a comment

531
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Speaker 1: four hours later, I'm going to tell him.

532
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: Today, Okay, okay, good, Well, that's that's quick, right.

533
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: I texted him and asked if we could talk, and

534
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: he's going to leave work early, so we can't. He

535
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: can leave his work early on some days. Nice and

536
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: Opi on the story. OPI is voted not the ahole,

537
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: of course, And what a time for us to reach

538
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: a point where we have an update the next day.

539
00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 1: Then our very own, incredible, illustrious co host, Sophia on

540
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Speaker 1: a Ladies and Gentlemen ground of applause, round of applause.

541
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: You came in at the you could have come in

542
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 1: at a better time, So you did you know that?

543
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: I did know that you picked for the perfect time.

544
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: So here's what's going on TLDR. Wait, oh, here we go.

545
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 4: Whoa, yeah, it looks like we're making like molecules.

546
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah right, we're we're doing all this. So oh gosh,

547
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: this is hard to show. Okay, here we go. So

548
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: basically OP has has two dads. So his bio dad

549
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: is still alive. His non bio dad, who calls daddy,

550
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: is deceased. So the dad and Sam are now in

551
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: a relationship on and off. Now they're married on and off.

552
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: Now they're married for like many years deep in their relationship.

553
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: Now Sam is trying to force Op like, hey, let

554
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: me adopt you, let me be your dad. You should

555
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: accept me as your dad, and kind of like comparing

556
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: him and his beast daddy, who he like, op Daddy

557
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: made a made a book. I guess as he knew.

558
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm guessing he kind of knew he was going to

559
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Speaker 1: pass away, and he made this adorable book about like

560
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: his life, his experience, their experience of having having OPI

561
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: and how much he loved him.

562
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 4: That's so sweet. And I don't like Sam.

563
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, SAMs, Sam, Literally Sam is the worst.

564
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: Is the worst.

565
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: It's terrible ever SAME's in the other room, our our

566
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: good same.

567
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: We love just kidding, that's not you.

568
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: And then Auntie Jija is the surrogate mother. Okay, so

569
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Speaker 1: she's not really a main character in the story. She's

570
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Speaker 1: just a surrogate mother. So basically, where're at right now

571
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: is Opie is going to tell Dad that's Sam because

572
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: Dad has literally no idea that Sam has been pressuring

573
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Speaker 1: his son to accept him. And he said, in a

574
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: response to irrelevant comment, He's like, if I tell my dad,

575
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna divorce.

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Speaker 4: Okay, can I redo that? Okay? While you I totally understand.

577
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so sorry.

578
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 4: No, I didn't hurt, but I was really worried that

579
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: it would. Okay, I understand now. It helped me understand it.

580
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 4: I just want to make it look pretty.

581
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Speaker 3: Oh, go for it.

582
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Speaker 1: But ladies and gentlemen, we have an updates the next day.

583
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Speaker 1: Also July third, twenty twenty fourth. This was pretty pretty recent.

584
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: I told Dad everything. He brought me out to get

585
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: ice cream and we just talked for like four hours

586
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: about everything that happened. My dad was so upset. He

587
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: had no idea Sam had ever even mentioned adoption to me.

588
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: Sam never mentioned he wanted to go that far. We

589
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 1: both ended up crying because Dad felt so guilty and

590
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: I felt awful hurting my dad. All I ever wanted

591
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: was for him to be really happy. Oh Sam, this

592
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: is all your faults, say, are you doing this? He

593
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: got really mad when I told him what Sam said

594
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: about Daddy and being just a step father. My dad

595
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: isn't a guy who gets mad, so to see him

596
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: that way was surprising, but also not really because he

597
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: still loves Daddy so much. Because again, as we've said,

598
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: in all of the stories where it's deceased partner, it's

599
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: like you never stopped loving that person.

600
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Speaker 3: They just that way. Sadly.

601
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Speaker 1: I ended up spending that night at my best friend's

602
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: house and I'm still here. He said he needed to

603
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: take care of things without me there and he'd pick

604
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: me up later today. He sent me a text late

605
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: last night that said Sam won't be at the house

606
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: when we got back home, and he apologized again. He

607
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: apologized a lot yesterday. Also, Sam sent me an angry

608
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: text at some point, and I blocked his number.

609
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: I figure I don't need it anymore, and I'm going

610
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to read it back one more time.

611
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's he said he needed to take care

612
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: of things without me there, and he picked me up

613
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: later today. He sent me a text late last night

614
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: that said Sam won't be at the house when we

615
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: got back home, and he apologized again. Yeah, so basically

616
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: I just wanted to double check Dad has ended the

617
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: relationship with Sam to protect OP, which is w W

618
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: parenting move, absolute w parenting move, and that is the

619
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Speaker 1: end of the story. Dixie Blue Steele says that Sophia

620
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: is always scared of the whiteboard being passed to her.

621
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Speaker 1: You know, it's a danger, it's a hazard.

622
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 4: Dangerous.

623
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: Also, my arms are weak noodles today because zero texts.

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00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 4: Today Also would should be the line for like a

625
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 4: previous waiting Also OP uses notion.

626
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Speaker 2: I see that he said that in a comment. Really yeah,

627
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 2: he said something like ocean checklist. What that helped me

628
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 2: a lot, like in order to like help out with uh,

629
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: like telling Dad stuff. And that's what we use here

630
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: for our stories. Is that's an ocean.

631
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 3: It's true, that's funny. No free sponsors.

632
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: So let's break it down, y'all. I mean, Sam, absolutely

633
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: the a hole deserves to be dumped, yes, right, yeah,

634
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: get him out of there, we hate Sam. Do we

635
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: think that there's anything different that Dad should have done?

636
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: And once once he once he.

637
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: Learned from this from only knowing the second half of

638
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 4: the story, I think he handled it pretty quickly. Yeah,

639
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 4: it seems like once once so he felt comfortable enough

640
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 4: to tell him what was going on. I think he

641
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: handled it pretty effectively.

642
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: I agree.

643
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: I think it was pretty flawless execution.

644
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 3: It was this is it's giving.

645
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: I protect my child above everything else, which is which

646
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: is great? And like like op said, he he literally said, like, oh,

647
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: I think my dad will will divorce him because one

648
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: of his clearly one of his deal breaker core values

649
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: is you must treat my son with the most.

650
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: Respect, like you know possible. All that could.

651
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: Now let's answer the let's talk about the question of

652
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: this episode. When is adoption not the answer?

653
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: Now? Yes?

654
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: And it was funny because when I first read that

655
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: read the episode question like, didn't adoption is great? Adoption

656
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: is amazing? But actually, yes, there are many Basically when

657
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: the child is like no, I do not want and

658
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: do not consent to this.

659
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, when the child is old enough to you know, be.

660
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: Able to speak their mind, and like yeah, one hundred percent.

661
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: We've talked about this before. You can't force a child

662
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: to see you as a parent, especially as like a

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Speaker 4: step parent. That just doesn't work, is my updated. I

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Speaker 4: didn't put her in there because I forgot her name.

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Speaker 4: Oh I erased it and I forgot she's gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but I'm trying to think of different So this was

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Speaker 4: my love line, and then.

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Speaker 1: We should like what if we cross out people for

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Speaker 1: deceased because I keep thinking about the lushroom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's so tiny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there anyway to like cross out the line whenever

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Speaker 2: they do?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, love it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that's about it there, and yeah, so far, it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: if the kid doesn't want to be adopted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't adopt the kid don't want to adopt them.

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Speaker 2: But what if they're like seven and they don't want

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Speaker 2: to be adopted.

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Speaker 1: Well, still still know they don't want.

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Speaker 2: To be adopted because you didn't get them on enough

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Speaker 2: pop parts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think I think there could be situations where there

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Speaker 1: might be someone who is like, yeah, maybe there's a

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Speaker 1: parent that's like, hey, i'll give you ice cream in

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Speaker 1: video games and like, you know, let you watch bad

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Speaker 1: movies and stuff, and they're like, oh, I want to

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Speaker 1: go here. You know, I'm sure there are scenarios where

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Speaker 1: that would exist, But I.

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Speaker 4: Think, honestly, even if it was like a seven year

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Speaker 4: old saying.

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to be mine, you still kind

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Speaker 1: of like, yeah, it should be like a full like

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Speaker 1: you should wait until they say, well yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think it should be like a full support.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't think of a better alternative. Yeah, nor

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Speaker 1: can I than going by that. But speaking of of

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Speaker 1: different scenarios around adoption whatnot, I think that Sophia might

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Speaker 1: have enough story three to us I.

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Speaker 4: Do, I do? Alrighty well, let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: Well,