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Speaker 1: The one Bills Live presented by Kalida Help.

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Speaker 2: We have reached week seventeen and it's a heavyweight matchup

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Speaker 2: in this late afternoon kickoff as the eleven and four

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills host the defending Super Bowl champion ten and

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Speaker 2: five Philadelphia Eagles here at a Saggi high Mark Stadium

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Speaker 2: in Orchard Park. Fakes the handoff, play action back to pass,

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Speaker 2: has time looking deep down the field. He's got Cooks

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Speaker 2: and he's got it caught the thirty two yard line.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks, welcome to the party, takes the hand off.

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Speaker 2: Allan rolling right, stops the plant. Now moves again looking

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Speaker 2: for somebody open, and he.

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Speaker 3: Gets tomahawked and fumbles the football. The ball is loose

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Speaker 3: at midfield. There's a scramble for it and the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: Hop on top of it.

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Speaker 2: Takes the hand off its play action throws and wide

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Speaker 2: open in the end zone for the touchdown is Dallas Goddard.

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Speaker 2: Reggie Gilliam blinds up behind Josh and it's a shove

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Speaker 2: and Alan bowling his way into the end zone for

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Speaker 4: Hurts in the shotgun with Barkley to his right.

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Speaker 2: Here's the snap four man rush, looking deep down the

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Speaker 2: right sideline for Smith and it's incomplete, broken up by Bentford,

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Speaker 2: who made a tremendous play.

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Speaker 4: On some catchup speed to get there. Back to pass, Fires,

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Speaker 4: It's caught.

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Speaker 3: It's a hook and ladder and it's going for a

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Speaker 3: first down up over midfield and Ada bounds into Eagles territory.

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Speaker 3: Back to pass looking Fires deep over the middle. Did

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Speaker 3: he pull it in for the catch? Holy Cowie did

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Speaker 3: what a grab?

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Cook's on the reception and now lines up behind Alan.

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Speaker 3: They go to push him over the goal line and

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Speaker 3: he is in for his second rushing touchdown of the game.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles get a taste of their own medicine with

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Speaker 3: a toush push for the score.

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Speaker 4: Gilliam in motion left to right.

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Speaker 2: Here's the snap. Back to pass pressure coming. Alan fires

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Speaker 2: to the end zone and he misses. The intended receiver

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Speaker 2: in the back of the end zone was Shakir and

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Speaker 2: Alan threw it wide to the target incomplete, and that

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Speaker 2: will be the ballgame. That is your game rewind presented

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Speaker 2: by Connect Life and official sponsor the Buffalo Bills. Sign

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Speaker 2: up to donate at connectlife dot org. Well you thought

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Speaker 2: another magical ending was gonna happen in this the final

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Speaker 2: season of high Mark Stadium, and then it didn't and

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Speaker 2: the Bills lose by a point. They tried to stage

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Speaker 2: the second half comeback after getting shut out in the

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Speaker 2: first half, almost pulled it off, but ineffective execution and

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Speaker 2: crunch time really cost them. Michael Badgeley had an extra

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Speaker 2: point blocked after Buffalo's first touchdown, and on the attempt

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Speaker 2: to win the game on a two point conversion with

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Speaker 2: five seconds remaining, Josh Allen missus Khalil Shakir open in

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Speaker 2: the back of the end zone. So the Eagles escape

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Speaker 2: with a one point win, thirteen to twelve, and they

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Speaker 2: still have a chance to land the two seed in

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Speaker 2: the NFC playoffs. Buffalo meanwhile slipped from the five seed

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Speaker 2: to the seventh seed on the AFC side of the ledger,

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Speaker 2: behind both Houston and the Chargers. I gotta tell you, Steve,

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Speaker 2: that was a hard one to drive home after. The

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Speaker 2: only thing that saved me was my wife's lasagna.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. That's rue. Yeah. The lack of

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Speaker 5: execut cution, not just at the end, but early in

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Speaker 5: playing a defensive front that's outstanding. It's it's really it's

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Speaker 5: as advertised, no question, I thought, and I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I thought josh made some decisions that he wants back

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Speaker 5: on the fourth down where he tried to get in

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Speaker 6: Because he had open receivers, because.

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Speaker 5: He had a guy he could have hit and he

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Speaker 5: just didn't see it. Joshua was off And I don't know.

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Speaker 5: and had a seventeen yard run in the game. But

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Speaker 5: I think the season the length of the season. I

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Speaker 5: think it showed in Josh. He just played like a

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Speaker 5: He did have a bad day, and maybe that's what

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Speaker 5: But he doesn't have a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have a lot of them, I said on

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Speaker 2: The Morning Show with Joe. I said on The Morning

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Speaker 2: Show with Joe. The last time he had a game

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Speaker 2: like this was the season opener against the Jets on

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Speaker 2: Monday Night Football in twenty twenty three when he.

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Speaker 6: Had four turnovers.

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Speaker 2: They are rare, but they do happen every once in

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Speaker 2: a while, and one of them happened yesterday. There's four

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Speaker 2: plays there that three of them took points off the board.

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Speaker 5: Imagine if he hits Shaki in the back and wins

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Speaker 5: that game after playing like that. Yeah, I mean, that's

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Speaker 5: that's the roller coaster you ride with the guy once

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Speaker 2: But you know what, you gotta take the bag. We

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Speaker 2: gotta take it, and that's it's fine. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna worry about it too much. I know

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Speaker 2: they it's a would it could have should a game,

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Speaker 2: And those are the kinds we've seen games like this.

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Speaker 2: The Bills had the have the NFL record for the

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Speaker 2: number of losses they've taken or number of games they've

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Speaker 2: gone without taking a loss by more than one possession.

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Speaker 5: We've seen that. This is how they lose games.

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Speaker 6: They helped the other team.

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Speaker 5: They helped the other team, they lose by less than

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Speaker 5: a possession. In this case, one point comes down to

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Speaker 5: they lose these games. And that's that's a crusher in

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Speaker 5: the big scheme of things. Probably we're gonna win the

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Speaker 5: division anyway. So let's see, they got another game to go.

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Speaker 5: We'll see whether whether the five, six or seven seed,

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Speaker 5: depending on whether they can be the Jets team that

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Speaker 5: and want to play next week. Uh don't know. But

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Speaker 5: And this is almost at this point, it's this last

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Speaker 5: going into it and all of that, but this is

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Speaker 6: You got to sit people. Yeah, I think I gotta

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Speaker 2: Uh see, if let Mitch Trubisky beat the Jets. If

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Speaker 2: he can, Mitch Trubisky can beat the Jets. That's the

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Speaker 2: way the play, the way they played last week, that's

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Speaker 2: the point. You know, you sit, You sit Dion, you

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Speaker 2: certainly these guys want to play. But you know, to me,

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Speaker 2: Josh is on his back in the somebody's massage in

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Speaker 2: his foot all week. That's all he does. Well, he's

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Speaker 2: gonna want to maintain his consecutive start streak, so he'll

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Speaker 5: That's fine. I don't care.

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Speaker 6: But then played.

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Speaker 2: Trubisky the rest of the game, and he's more than

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Speaker 2: capable of beating a Jets team that yesterday had eighteen

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Speaker 2: not on their opening day roster. Seven of the seventeen

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Speaker 5: Recently, the Jets are searching. I mean, Aaron Glenn has

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Speaker 5: got his work cut out for him. It's harder, it's

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Speaker 5: probably a bigger job than he thought. He was not

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Speaker 5: He said it point blank, he was not happy with

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Speaker 5: the effort his players put out yesterday. We'll see if

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Speaker 5: that translates into some passion this week in Buffalo. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 5: the Bills have are thinking about different things. I said

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Speaker 5: it on a postgame last night, Brownie, I don't. I'm

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Speaker 5: not afraid of any team in the in the tournament.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna go on the road. I don't care whether

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Speaker 5: I like our guys, particularly with some rest. I'm let's go.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm yeah. This game was. It

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Speaker 5: was tough to sit through. It was a rock fight.

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Speaker 5: Even the the Eagles looked as bad as the Bills looked,

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Speaker 5: and they looked worse in the second half than the

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Speaker 5: Bills looked in the first half. The Bills had them

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Speaker 5: out gained them or gained right with them in the

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Speaker 5: first half and just couldn't put the points on the

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Speaker 2: Let's check the standings right now and see who's raising

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Speaker 2: the roof brought to you by Stellar Roofing. When quality counts,

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Speaker 2: choose Stellar. So we see the Bills sitting there in

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Speaker 2: the seven seed right now. To get the five seed,

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Speaker 2: the Bills would need to win against the Jets and

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Speaker 2: at least one of the three teams Houston Jacksonville where

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Speaker 2: the Chargers would need to lose. And while the losses

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Speaker 2: are never good, I will say coming out of that

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Speaker 2: game against Philly, after seeing what Buffalo's defense did in

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Speaker 2: the second half, I was encouraged.

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Speaker 6: Excuse me. They gave up just sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Net yards, Eagles were zero for five on third down,

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Speaker 2: had just half Yeah, had just one first down and

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Speaker 2: no points, and for the game, Saquon Barkley averaged three

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Speaker 5: I was, I was.

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Speaker 2: Shalen Hurts did not have a second half completion oh

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Speaker 2: for seven. No other starting quarterback has attempted to pass

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Speaker 2: without a completion in the second half of a victory

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Speaker 2: in the last two seasons. Jalen Hurts did it twice

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Speaker 2: this year, yesterday and in Week four at Tampa.

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Speaker 5: Give you an idea that's amazing. Yeah, I'll give you

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Speaker 5: an idea of how good their defense.

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Speaker 6: It's the best roster in football.

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Speaker 5: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 2: It's the most hold on, It's the most talented roster

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Speaker 5: And I'll say this too. If I'm a Philly, a

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagle fan, I'm looking at my coaching staff going, Okay,

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Speaker 5: you're going in there with that run defense that's advertised

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Speaker 5: in Buffalo and you throw the football three times right

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Speaker 5: out of the gate. Saquon Barkley doesn't even sniff the ball,

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Speaker 5: not even a play action. What are you doing? I was,

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Speaker 5: I was like what. I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was surprising, to say the least. I'll say

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Speaker 2: there's another thing that encouraged me to in this loss.

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Speaker 2: And that's a very good pass defense. You're doing it

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Speaker 5: A little bit of that has to do with their

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Speaker 5: There were three times and the fourth and two when

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Speaker 6: The you're probably in field goal range, right, and.

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Speaker 5: Then the third one which is escaping me. Now there

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Speaker 2: Third one when he's twisting and turning and bring loss

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Speaker 5: The fumble, the fourth down in the third quarter, and

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Speaker 2: I think he's ducking, well, he's ducking the hit, but

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Speaker 5: I think if it's intentional grounding, I'll listen to that.

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Speaker 5: He's throwing the ball, his arm doesn't get.

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Speaker 2: Hit, looks like throwing it down. It's like he spiked

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Speaker 2: That is an incomplete pass or it's intentional grounding.

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Speaker 6: It's a bad calls.

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Speaker 5: And then it was upheld by the rum dumb up

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Speaker 2: Because I think they're convinced that Josh declared himself as

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Speaker 6: That's that's that's.

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Speaker 2: The only excuse I can come up with for the

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Speaker 5: There aside myself about that call. That's ridiculous. Josh threw

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Speaker 5: That's not a fumble.

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Speaker 4: I think he spiked the ball to the guy's feet.

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Speaker 6: I think because the ref saw him balling.

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Speaker 2: Rift didn't see Jack. The reff did not see Jack.

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Speaker 6: It's a bad call.

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Speaker 5: It is a horrible call. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just trying to climb

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Speaker 6: It's vacant and there's.

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Speaker 5: Plenty of room in there.

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Speaker 6: The only thing, the only.

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Speaker 2: Thing I can surmise, I can't believe it. The only

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Speaker 2: It's the only explanation I can come up with for

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Speaker 5: On, and there is no leg to stand on. It's

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Speaker 2: It's totally out of But that's the danger. That's the

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Speaker 2: for another play. Josh Patty decision is to throw it

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Speaker 6: It's a pass. It's a pass.

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Speaker 2: If you throw it a half second earlier out of bounds,

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Speaker 5: I thought that was I couldn't believe the call, and

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Speaker 2: The officiating left a lot to be desired there is

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure that the punt coverage.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Sam Franklin got tripped, and tripping is a point

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Speaker 6: And they don't call the trip.

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Speaker 2: They instead call Franklin for interfering with the pat with

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Speaker 2: you know that's a tripping call. Should be half the

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Speaker 5: They should have had ball boys just spot the ball.

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Speaker 5: So that was another bad useless They were useless yesterday.

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Speaker 5: They were horrible. That that tripping and you're talking to me,

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Speaker 2: Stuck his leg out. It was you know, it was

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Speaker 2: a little like it didn't look blatant, but it looked purposeful.

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Speaker 2: I mean the motion he took, he lifted his leg

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Speaker 2: they didn't call that either. So those are the two

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Speaker 5: I thought they stunk yesterday.

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Speaker 2: But those plays like that get amplified in a game

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Speaker 6: To that's the problem.

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Speaker 5: So everything, everything counts. You know, you can go back

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Speaker 5: and as a rabbit hole. Yeah, but I was. I

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Speaker 5: Josh's the forward throw and then the tripping call. You're right,

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Speaker 2: I was surprised I couldn't hear you two rows behind me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was. I kept it and hollering.

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Speaker 5: I was less animated yesterday. It was just now, okay,

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Speaker 5: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: This week's game against the Jets is presented by high

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Speaker 2: Marked Blue Cross Blue Shield. High Mark is the official

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Speaker 2: health plan of the Buffalo Bills. Because life, Let's go

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Speaker 2: around the NFL, presented by Kalida Health, the official healthcare

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Speaker 2: system of the Buffalo Bills. And then we'll get to

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Speaker 2: your phone calls. It was a barn burner of a

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Speaker 2: Sunday night game between the Bears and forty nine or

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Speaker 2: proving to be the game winning score with two minutes left.

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Speaker 2: The Niners now have a shot at the number one

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Speaker 2: play this weekend, with the Ravens and Steelers squaring off.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's lost to Cleveland yesterday opened the door for a winner,

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Speaker 2: take all game, which will be on Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 2: The winner takes the division that the loser is out

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Speaker 2: of the playoffs entirely. In the AFC South, Jacksonville and

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Speaker 2: Houston are two of the hottest teams in football. Texans

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville just needs to be Tennessee to take the division.

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Speaker 2: Houston would need the Jaguars to lose, and then the

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Speaker 2: Texans have to beat Indianapolis in Houston and the NFC

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Speaker 2: South is up for grabs after both the Panthers and

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Speaker 2: Bucks lost. Carolina is a game up on Tampa, but

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Speaker 2: With the number one seed firmly in play there, to me,

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Speaker 2: that's good news for the Bills, knowing the Broncos have

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Speaker 2: to play hard to try to beat the Chargers because

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Speaker 2: if they beat the Chargers that would have obviously help

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's playoff seeding in the wild card.

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Speaker 6: So that's right, that's the nuts and vults.

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Speaker 5: Of that Buffalo would go at least to the six, right.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, let's get to your phone calls though. At

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Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty the numbers to jump on board,

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Speaker 2: give us your biggest takeaways from yesterday's one point loss

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Speaker 2: DJ and Lockport.

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Speaker 8: What's up DJ, Hey, guys, Well for a couple quick

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Speaker 8: Dasriel fast first, as a fan. I'm forty one beforety

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Speaker 8: Twist in March. I cannot wait to see those run

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Speaker 8: helmets again. It's to be a sight to see. There

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Speaker 8: was a great era, Steve. Obviously, you know it was

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Speaker 8: when I was a little kid. I thought the Super

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Speaker 8: us as a city. But I'm really excited to see them.

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Speaker 8: It's too bad it's not going to technically quote unquote

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Speaker 8: the whole game. But it's gonna be a cool time. Two.

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Speaker 8: Is that not the tuck rule? Just Allen was just moving,

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Speaker 8: you know, opposed to tuck.

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Speaker 6: Rule doesn't exist anymore.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they took the let out of the book, gotcha?

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Speaker 8: Okay. So my main point though was Brandon Cooks and

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Speaker 8: if it's going to be money Mitch, they go downfield

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Speaker 8: and he connects on a few, because that is going

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Speaker 8: The Bill's having a deep threat player. There's there will

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Speaker 8: be no more stack boxes than James cook is going

439
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Speaker 8: to just have a field day with a lot of

440
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Speaker 8: these teams, especially if we go out west to play,

441
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Speaker 8: you know, teams that aren't in Buffalo in the snowy weather.

442
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Speaker 8: I feel like they could be such a benefit. If

443
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Speaker 8: we go down to Jacksonville and Cook's caught you know,

444
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Speaker 8: a couple more for another one hundred next week, They're

445
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Speaker 8: gonna have to respect that and it's gonna be a

446
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Speaker 8: big day for Dames Cook. I feel like it's just

447
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Speaker 8: such a big deal that that man had such a

448
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Speaker 8: good game in the game he did, even though it

449
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Speaker 8: was a loss. Allen one misthrow after a bad game,

450
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Speaker 8: you know, that's the one good thing you can get

451
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Speaker 8: out of that is that we have a deep threat hopefully,

452
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Speaker 8: and it's gonna make a world of difference going you

453
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Speaker 8: in the playoffs. So have a good day, guys and

454
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Speaker 8: go Bills.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks, DJ.

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Speaker 2: I mean it keeps defenses honest, that's for sure, because

457
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Speaker 2: prior to what we saw from Cooks yesterday, there wasn't

458
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Speaker 2: a consistent deep threat on the field. I mean, Joshua

459
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Speaker 2: Palmer injured too much of this season to develop any

460
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Speaker 2: consistency deep downfield as a deep threat. And since he's

461
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Speaker 2: been back in the lineup, it's been hit and miss

462
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Speaker 2: with him, and I think we're being kind there. So

463
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Speaker 2: that's why they acquired Cooks to give them a more

464
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Speaker 2: viable deep shot weapon. And I don't even know if

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Speaker 2: you need to play him this week. I would almost

466
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Speaker 2: save Cooks to not risk injury. So you do have

467
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Speaker 2: him for the postseason. I think you saw what you

468
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Speaker 2: needed to see this week. I'd sit him this week.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't even play them well, get him ready for

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Speaker 2: the postseason. And here's the Stosh is probably not playing

471
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Speaker 2: anyway either, Right.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly right. Mitch Trubisky doesn't need the reps with Cooks, right, Yeah,

473
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Speaker 5: so you might do that. And plus with the way

474
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Speaker 5: they've been snake bitten by injuries at the wrong at

475
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 5: the wrong moment to the wrong guys, that's all you need,

476
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Speaker 5: right is to lose the guy right before you really

477
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Speaker 5: need him.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I if it's up to me, I'm sitting in

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Speaker 2: him and play Palmer if you want, and somebody else

481
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Speaker 2: wide out Coleman, you know what I mean. It's like,

482
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Speaker 2: get him the experience and the reps. So just my

483
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Speaker 2: thought on it, Let's go to Tom and Tonawanda.

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Speaker 6: What's up? Tom?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 11: Uh, A couple positive things like, Uh, take away from

488
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Speaker 11: yesterday's game. Number one, I think Buffalo is a team

489
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Speaker 11: that everybody else is fearing about playing in the playoffs.

490
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Speaker 11: Look what they just They stopped Philadelphia's offense and we

491
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Speaker 11: came in within two shot two within a point of

492
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Speaker 11: beating beating Philly.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 11: I just think we got the defense going now, and

495
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Speaker 11: it's just like preseason game. We're starting to use our

496
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Speaker 11: wide receivers again that we didn't have, and it's just

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Speaker 11: I think we're just got the momentum going.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, kind of hard to say that after a loss,

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Speaker 2: but I get what you're getting at there, Tom.

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Speaker 6: And Look, the.

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Speaker 2: Bill's hand was forced in the passing game. They had

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Speaker 2: to turn to their receivers, and I think that might

504
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Speaker 2: be a blessing in disguise because I think this offensive

505
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Speaker 2: staff was designed to running their passing games through the

506
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Speaker 2: backs and the tight ends, which I'm not totally opposed

507
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Speaker 2: to because they've produced. But I think forcing their hand

508
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Speaker 2: with Kincaid out Dawson Knox not one hundred percent, I

509
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Speaker 2: think forcing the offensive staff's hand to come up with

510
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Speaker 2: creative solutions by utilizing their wide receivers in the passing

511
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Speaker 2: game against a very good pass defense might prove beneficial

512
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Speaker 2: by the time they get to the postseason, because I

513
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Speaker 2: think it might have opened their eyes a little bit. Oh,

514
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Speaker 2: you know what, we can make some plays in the

515
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Speaker 2: passing game with our receivers. Maybe we have a more

516
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Speaker 2: balanced passing attack than we initially thought.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they've got at this point. Think about it,

518
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 5: some of these guys haven't even been here long enough

519
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Speaker 5: to find out about what they're like in games. Particularly

520
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Speaker 5: Brandon Cooks. He's gotten open a couple of times and

521
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Speaker 5: has dropped a couple of balls that were big. Now,

522
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Speaker 5: he made like an impossible catch down the field, and

523
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Speaker 5: his second long play was really unbelievable. He bought an

524
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 5: he bubbled it twice, but he had a guy draped

525
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Speaker 5: all over him the fifty yard or he was wide open.

526
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Speaker 5: You can make a case for you'd like to see

527
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Speaker 5: him keep his feet. But my point is these guys

528
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Speaker 5: are still new. They haven't even taken the reps they

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Speaker 5: would have taken had they been in training camp. Let alone,

530
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Speaker 5: got been in training camp and got cut. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they just you know, they don't practice a lot during

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Speaker 5: the regular season, you know what I mean. It's not

533
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Speaker 5: any full speed, it's not you know, so these guys

534
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Speaker 5: are still feeling their way along and Josh doesn't have

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Speaker 5: knowledge about their body language all of that stuff. I'm

536
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Speaker 5: you know, Cooks has been here for a while, but

537
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Speaker 5: I'm telling you that the reps just aren't plentiful in

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Speaker 5: the regular season because you know, they got guys healing up.

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Speaker 2: Josh healed up all last week. How many reps you

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Speaker 2: think he took with Cooks last week? Probably zero? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe not much on a walkthrough.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of that going on

543
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Speaker 5: to this too. So this is I think games like

544
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 5: this go a long way towards saying okay, all right,

545
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 5: the settling guys in and saying, okay, now I feel

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Speaker 5: a little better. Right, So I think there's some of

547
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 5: that going on in this because it has been let's say,

548
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 5: Josh Palmer's been in and out of the lineup. Keon

549
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 5: has been a healthy scratch forever, Shaves has been the

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Speaker 5: guy who's been there, and Khalil has been there all year.

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Speaker 5: But Shavers hasn't gotten that many targets. So it's I

552
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 5: think there's a lot of unknowns about this wide receiver room.

553
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Speaker 5: And when you start making catches in games, you start

554
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 5: to grow fast because the trust builds quick. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: there's there's no question the fact that they were I

556
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Speaker 5: don't know, forced or decided to push the ball down

557
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 5: the field in this game. I think that the fact

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Speaker 5: that the guys came down with the ball was a

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Speaker 5: pleasant surprise and it was something they've been looking for.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but we are wide open

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Speaker 2: for your phone calls the first two hours of the show.

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Speaker 2: So if you're holding there, stay where you are. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to you when we return here. On a Monday

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Speaker 2: edition of One Bill's Live, presented by Collida Health, It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. Here's the snap takes, the handoff, play

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Speaker 2: action back to pass, has time looking deep down the field,

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Speaker 2: He's got Cooks and he's got it caught.

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Speaker 4: At the thirty two yard line. Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 2: That's your player of the game. Presented by Hi Mark,

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Speaker 6: Because life.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks with four receptions for one hundred and one yards.

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Speaker 2: That was the first one hundred yard game by a

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Speaker 2: receiver since Week six when Khalil Shakir did it last

576
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Speaker 2: and hopefully there's more of that to come in the

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Speaker 2: postseason from Brandon Cooks. It would certainly open a lot

578
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Speaker 2: of things up underneath it in the intermediate areas of

579
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Speaker 2: the passing game if he is a threat down the

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Speaker 2: field for sure. Let's get back to your phone calls

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Speaker 2: at eight O three zero five fifty eight five fifty

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Speaker 2: two five fifty and to Brian down in Alabama, what's up, Brian?

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Speaker 14: Hey, good afternoon fellas.

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Speaker 7: How you guys going good?

585
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 6: Hanging in there?

586
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Speaker 14: Yeah, A couple couple of things that I that I've noticed.

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Speaker 15: Well.

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Speaker 14: For one, obviously the continuous slow starts that that this

589
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Speaker 14: offense has throughout the year. I think yesterday it kind

590
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Speaker 14: of kind of showed his head again in regards to,

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Speaker 14: you know, slow starting the first half and then the

592
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 14: inability this time to really turn on that life switch

593
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Speaker 14: in the second half, which I just hope in the

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Speaker 14: playoffs they can just find a way to put it

595
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Speaker 14: all together for the entire game. I also noticed missed opportunities,

596
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 14: the one where Josh Allen was short at the goal line.

597
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 14: I thought he missed Brandon Cooks out there on the flat.

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Speaker 14: I know in that play is hectic, he's running around,

599
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 14: but had he just kept his head up a little

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Speaker 14: bit longer, I think he would have looked at that

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Speaker 14: first option and and that would have been the touchdown

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Speaker 14: that we needed. And then Chris, I know you mentioned

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Speaker 14: on the on your show a couple of weeks ago

604
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Speaker 14: in regards to the screenplay that works more often than not.

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Speaker 14: To me, I think I think when it doesn't work,

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Speaker 14: it has a huger impact, a negative impact on any

607
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Speaker 14: type of flow of the game. And so the one

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Speaker 14: way they ran at the end of the game, I

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Speaker 14: just I don't I don't get that play call in

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Speaker 14: that moment. Then I'm more irritated that we have to

611
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Speaker 14: rely on the hook and ladder just to pick up

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Speaker 14: a fourth and ten when we have an MVP quarterback.

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Speaker 14: So you know, that's just a whole other issue of

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Speaker 14: speaking to our wide receivers and so hopefully they'll get

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Speaker 14: that address in the offseason. But and then also put

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Speaker 14: keyon Coman back in the game, whether whether this is

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Speaker 14: the last season or not, I mean, he provides some

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Speaker 14: type of X factor. It's better than what you kind

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Speaker 14: of have out there because Josh is still kind of

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Speaker 14: pump fake and holding the ball because he's not comfortable

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Speaker 14: on the tour receiver. That's that's even covered. So I'll

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Speaker 14: just hang up and listen to you, listen to your call,

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Speaker 14: and go Bill all.

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Speaker 6: Right, thanks for the call, Brian.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little I'll be honest, I'm a little perplexed

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Speaker 2: about your false start thing. I can't find a false

627
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: star penalty yesterday. I know Dion Dawkins got called for

628
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Speaker 2: holding in the first half. I think they only had

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Speaker 2: three penalties maybe four at halftime, So I don't know

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Speaker 2: where the false start stuff's coming from. They didn't have

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Speaker 2: a single one in the entire game. That might be

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Speaker 2: a bigger problem on the road in the playoffs where

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00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: you have to deal with crowd noise.

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Speaker 6: So hopefully that doesn't pop up. But I'm a little perplexed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they only had four for forty the whole game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean they had the off was a

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Speaker 2: fifteen yard for the offsetting personal fouls?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah, what was he saying when it doesn't

639
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Speaker 5: work it?

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Speaker 6: He's worried about this. You don't like the screenplays.

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Speaker 2: I think they ran one on third and nine, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of that either. On third

643
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Speaker 2: and nine. I understand why they try to use that.

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00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: They actually tried to use some misdirection faking it to

645
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: Shakir came back to the other side to Ty Johnson,

646
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: and that had mixed success. I think he only got

647
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: five or six yards on the play because the blocking

648
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: downfield wasn't great. Look, it's a play that I still look.

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Speaker 2: They have all the analytics they need to determine whether

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00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: or not that's a play that they should keep running

651
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: or stop running. And I realize sometimes it's opponents specific.

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Speaker 2: They have the data that backs up the plays that

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Speaker 2: they call. That's why they have an analytics department. As

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Speaker 2: long as they feel it's going to yield positive results,

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Speaker 2: they will continue to use it. To what degree of frequency,

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Speaker 2: that's up to Joe Brady and the offensive staff. So

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Speaker 2: we'll just have to see where it goes here this

658
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 2: coming week. I don't even know if Shakiir is going

659
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: to play, because they might sit him to make sure

660
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: he's healthy for the postseason, and he's the primary guy

661
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: in that. Ty Johnson's probably option number two in the

662
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 2: screen game. So I mean, you can you can have

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Speaker 2: an issue with it. I personally don't think it's going anywhere.

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Speaker 5: No, it's not going anywhere. Every every offense runs it

665
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Speaker 5: to varying degrees. If you have a knock on it,

666
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Speaker 5: and I'll say another thing, yes you make it.

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Speaker 6: I think it's that it develops very slowly.

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00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes it does not develop quickly, and that's usually

669
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Speaker 2: when it gets gobbled up for minimal gain or a loss.

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Speaker 2: And the blocking has not been great at times, which

671
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Speaker 2: can blow the play up as well.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, the reason I mentioned this a little bit

673
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Speaker 5: in the post game last night, the reason that play

674
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 5: has evolved. And it's not just the Bills that run it.

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00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 5: I mean, we've all seen other teams run the same thing.

676
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 5: But the reason it came about is because it's a

677
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Speaker 5: response to the defenses that are being called against him

678
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Speaker 5: and you get a little pre snap read on what

679
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Speaker 5: it's going to be. Now. It's also we've come full

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Speaker 5: circle because a team like phil when I said this

681
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 5: last night, a team like Philly knows where they're vulnerable.

682
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 5: They their front four changes things for a lot of offenses.

683
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 5: You got to get the ball out quick. Sometimes you

684
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Speaker 5: want to have an idea of how to get the

685
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Speaker 5: ball out of your quarterback's hands on certain down and distances,

686
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Speaker 5: and the response to that a lot of times is

687
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Speaker 5: to get it out of your quarterbacks hands quick, which

688
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Speaker 5: means getting it to one of your guys out wide,

689
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 5: or a pop pass to your tight end or whatever. Well,

690
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 5: defenses begin to understand where teams are going to try

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Speaker 5: to attack them, so they get good, particularly a smart

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00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 5: secondary like Phillies Cooper Digi is really smart, and so

693
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 5: are their corners, so they understand that it's coming, but

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Speaker 5: they still play the defense that's called, but they know

695
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 5: where they're vulnerable. Teams get that used to be like

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00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 5: when Wade Phillips was the coordinator, and you get out

697
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 5: some of these other guys. They run this defense all

698
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 5: the time and they keep it simple. They kind of

699
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 5: start to know where offenses have just try to attack them,

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Speaker 5: and they get really good at covering up the vulnerabilities.

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Speaker 5: And I think a little bit of that's what happened

702
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Speaker 5: yesterday with Philly. Their front four is such a constant

703
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 5: Teams start to try a certain number of buttons that

704
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 5: they can push to take it, you know, to try

705
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 5: and get around. There's the quality of the front four,

706
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 5: those screens are one of them. They see them a

707
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 5: lot because of that.

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00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: And as for Keon Coleman being inactive, it was interesting

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00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: that coach McDermott was asked this past week about whether

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00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: or not Keon Coleman has an effort problem. He kind

711
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: of gave a general answer. He was pressed on it,

712
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: and he said, when effort has been a problem, we

713
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: have addressed it with Keon and moved forward. So, in essence,

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00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: what we have all seen on film, if you've watched

715
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 2: enough of it, when there is a when a play

716
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: breaks down and Josh tries to extend the playoff script.

717
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: Because I've seen it with my own eyes, I feel

718
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: comfortable saying this. Keon Coleman jogs on scramble drills. I've

719
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: seen it more than once this season. You can't jog

720
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: on a scramble drill. That is, it is imperative on

721
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: receivers to worked doubly as hard to get open for

722
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: their quarterback to help him. Keon has not had enough

723
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: of a sense of urgency in those instances on more

724
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: than one occasion, and it's one of the reasons why

725
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: he's a healthy scratch, because the quarterback wants to be

726
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: able to trust every receiver out there is going to

727
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: work their tail off to get open for him if

728
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: the play breaks down. He has not met the effort

729
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: level of his fellow receivers and pass catching targets. It's

730
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: one of the reasons. It's just one of the reasons.

731
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: So it's unfortunate. I think he's gotten the message, and

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00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 2: I think he'll get an opportunity to play this week.

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Speaker 6: They'll get an opportunity to play this.

734
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 5: Week because it's perfect. There's a perfect time for him

735
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 5: to climb back onto the roster and on to the

736
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 5: active game day roster maybe.

737
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Speaker 2: And I think he'll be better for it because there's

738
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Speaker 2: a lesson to be learned there.

739
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 6: I think he's learned the lesson. Now let's see him produce.

740
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: And he'll get a chance to produce against the Jests

741
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: this week, I think, because I think he'll be in

742
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: the lineup on Sunday. It's just that's the way I

743
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: feel about it. Let's go to Mark in Tanawan to

744
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: next what's up?

745
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 16: Mark?

746
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, thanks sharing me on see if you know

747
00:36:59,239 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 17: that was a fumble?

748
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 16: I mean, Josh Allen was clearly ready to talk the ball.

749
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: No, he wasn't Mark. That's no, he's not Mark. He

750
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: threw the football right at the guy's feet. His arm

751
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: went forward, the ball came out of his head exactly

752
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: like he was supposed to release it. It's like a

753
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: spike on every want of fumble. You don't know what

754
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 2: you're talking about. Mark, You don't know what you're talking about.

755
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that was a throw.

756
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 5: Right at his feet.

757
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 2: There's no way you can tell me, Josh Allen, didn't

758
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: you throwing motion.

759
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 7: To do it?

760
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 5: You can't say it.

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00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 12: Mark.

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00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: It's not true. It's not true. It's not true. It's

763
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: not true. It's not true. It's not true. It's not true.

764
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: It's not true. Mark, it's not true. It's not true. Mark,

765
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: it's not true. No no, no, no, no no no

766
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: no no, no, no no.

767
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 5: No, Mark, you can hang up now.

768
00:37:52,640 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: No no no, no no no no absolutely not, absolutely not,

769
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: absolutely not.

770
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what Josh was trying to do.

771
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: The ball came out of his hand in a throwing motion,

772
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: going forward, and he had control of it. Done incomplete pass,

773
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: incomplete pass, no, no matter what you say, And I

774
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: don't care if Josh was trying.

775
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 5: To pull it back. It doesn't matter. Intent is irrelevant.

776
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: The ball came out of his hand, he had control

777
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: of it, and it went down forward, straight down to

778
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: the ground. It's an incomplete pass. Nothing you can say

779
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: can change that nothing. They missed it, they misinterpreted it,

780
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: whether they didn't have the right replay, I do not care.

781
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: That was an incomplete pass. Incomplete pass, you can't. His

782
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: intent is irrelevant, irrelevant. Yeah, and look, the ref missed it,

783
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: and then the replay assistant missed it.

784
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 5: The ball went forward out of his hand.

785
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: He had control of it the whole time, and it

786
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: had velocity the whole thing.

787
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 5: Forget it. There's no way you can justify that's a fumble.

788
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,479
Speaker 5: No way, no way, no way.

789
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: And with that, we will take a break here and

790
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: we'll be taking more of your phone calls when we

791
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: get back here on One Bill's Live.

792
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 7: Stay with us.

793
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: The numbers that matter are presented by the New York Lottery.

794
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: Josh Allen has recorded thirteen rushing touchdowns for the second

795
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: time in his career. He's the first Bills player with

796
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: multiple seasons of thirteen or more rushing touchdowns. Alan joins

797
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts as the only two quarterbacks in NFL history

798
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: with multiple seasons of thirteen or more rushing team, got

799
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: your lucky jersey on, then head to a New York

800
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: lottery retailer and play today. Who knows today could be

801
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: your lucky play? Gambling problem call one eight seven seven

802
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: eight Hope and why or text hope and why. Going

803
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: to get right back to the phones where we have

804
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: a lot of people waiting, and we go to Cindy

805
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: up in Niagara Falls.

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00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 6: What do you got for Cindy?

807
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 8: Hi?

808
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 12: Chris Hi, Steve, thanks for taking my call. First off,

809
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 12: I just want to say my granddaughter Sienna was in

810
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 12: the press Both booth last night.

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00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 6: We yes yea to meet her.

812
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 18: She yeah, she's amazed.

813
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 12: With you and Chris and Maddie. I mean, she's just

814
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 12: so excited about her college career. And second of all,

815
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 12: I want to say, Steve, I agree with you one

816
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 12: hundred percent that the refs were so off on the

817
00:40:53,560 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 12: call and also the replace that was BS and it's

818
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 12: and one more thing, I just want to say that

819
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 12: I think Josh's foot was hurting a little more than

820
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 12: he said because I think that that last play would

821
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 12: have been on target. Okay, thanks guys, have a good day.

822
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: Yep, you too, Cindy. Thanks for the call. It's it's

823
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: not an easy throw. Josh makes it look easy a

824
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: lot of the time. You know, rolling left as a

825
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: right handed thrower, you you got to.

826
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 6: Square your shoulders up before you throw. You know, he

827
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 6: said he missed it.

828
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: And and look, here's the thing, like people talk about

829
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: Josh all the time, mostly for the good because of

830
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 2: the amazing things that he does do on the field.

831
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: When he doesn't, when he doesn't deliver or doesn't execute,

832
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: he is the first person to tell you he did not.

833
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: That guy doesn't shy away from anything. He doesn't skirt

834
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: responsibility ever. And he said it right after the game.

835
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: I missed the throw. Got to make the throw. And

836
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: so that's where it's at.

837
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 5: And on those two as always in these kind of

838
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 5: situations after the game, a loss like that, I mean,

839
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 5: you know, Joe Brady's getting you know, everybody's like he's staying.

840
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: So listen, he dialed that play up on.

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00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 6: A great.

842
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: It was there, I mean that was it was right there,

843
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 5: and you know, you just missed it. So you know,

844
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 5: kudos to him for dialing that up. You got your

845
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 5: your number. The guy who's been the most productive receiver

846
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 5: on the squad the entire You got seventy two receptions

847
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 5: and a high catch rate, a high catch rate. You

848
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 5: got him dialed up and you just miss it. So

849
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 5: say what you want. It's not all you know, it's

850
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 5: not all Joe Brady in this situation. I mean that's

851
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 5: you just got to have your players do it. And

852
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 5: Josh owned up to it and as you as you

853
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 5: would think he would in those situations.

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00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 6: And I want to make it, and you.

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00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: Agree with McDermott because ninety nine times out of one

856
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: hundred Josh makes the throw. That was the one time

857
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: he didn't. And it's unfortunate that it is at the

858
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: end of a game in what amounts to a loss

859
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: because you didn't make that play.

860
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 6: I just gotta make it.

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00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 5: And stats will tell you it's you know, it's a

862
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 5: it's a coin flip. Two point conversions are coin flips.

863
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 5: You'd make fifty percent of them, you lose fifty percent

864
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 5: of them. And the Bills came up on the wrong

865
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 5: end of it. It was there though, the the the

866
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 5: coaches got it right. Uh and and Sean said it

867
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 5: after the game, and he's right too. I think most

868
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 5: Bills fans would agree, I'd go again, I'd trust Josh again,

869
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 5: just go put the ball back in his hands again.

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00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that the extra point attempt

871
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: on the previous scoring drive got blocked, Sean admitted that

872
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: was a factor and.

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00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 5: It shouldn't well, yeah, it shouldn't have.

874
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting that he said the timing of

875
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: the it was slow, the get off was slow on

876
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: the kick. Coach said, yeah, then I could see that,

877
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: and they time those things all the time. But he said,

878
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: and all take operation he felt wasn't as crisp as

879
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: it usually is.

880
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 5: All it takes is a five hundreds of a second.

881
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 5: That's it. Yeah, that's and it's yeah, you're talking split

882
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 5: seconds that they they time these things and he couldn't

883
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,959
Speaker 5: get it off, couldn't get it off.

884
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 6: Let's go to Sam and Tonawanda next. What's up Sam, Chris?

885
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 15: Yeah, how you doing good?

886
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 5: Go ahead?

887
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 6: What do you got for us?

888
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 19: Oh?

889
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 15: Yeah, this is why I know that he threw the

890
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 15: ball at his feet, Josh all him because if he

891
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 15: thought he didn't do that, he would have run after

892
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 15: that football instead of just in his hand and he

893
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 15: hit the ground. Am I right?

894
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 5: Yes? Absolutely? If Josh would have thought it came out

895
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 5: of his hand. You're right, he would have instinctively gone

896
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 5: after it. But Heath, I mean through whatever. Yeah, you're right,

897
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 5: nothing about right away. Now you can say this too.

898
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 5: It could have been gamesmanship on Josh's part asking for

899
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 5: a call too up, but his intent is irrelevant. The

900
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 5: results of the play is he threw the football at

901
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 5: the ground, So I'm whether we meant to do it

902
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 5: or not, that's what happened. So there you go.

903
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a bad call, and the Bill's paid

904
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: for it. It's unfortunate. We've seen it before, we'll probably

905
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 2: see it again. So got to make your own breaks.

906
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: That's the bottom line here. If you're in a tight

907
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: ball game and those calls get amplified when they go

908
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: against you, and there's like the lesson here is make

909
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: your own plays, so plays like that don't cost you all.

910
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 5: We've all we've been through this a million times as

911
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: Bills fans. Yeah, over the year, particularly within the era

912
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 5: of Josh right where you go forty four games and

913
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 5: you never lose a game by more than with single possession,

914
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 5: And you can go back through all of those games

915
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 5: and there's the closer. The game is the fewer and

916
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,959
Speaker 5: fewer and few Well, no, that's wrong. The closer game

917
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 5: is the more and more and more and more plays

918
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 5: there are throughout the game that if they'd gone the

919
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 5: other way, you think, wow, the whole game changes. A

920
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 5: one point loss at home, there's nine plays in this game.

921
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 5: They're like, oh, there you go. Let alone, the block,

922
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 5: field goal are blocked, extra point and then.

923
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 6: The block you just kick an extra point again and

924
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 6: you wait.

925
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 5: And the two point conversion. There's another one, the Josh

926
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 5: Allen fourth down play. I mean, you can go down

927
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 5: play after play after play, and the entire game is different.

928
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 5: That's where we live in this era of Buffalo Bill's football.

929
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 5: With Josh playing these games. They're hard to beat, and

930
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 5: that means they get a ton of close games, and

931
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 5: that means more and more games throughout those games, more

932
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 5: and more plays throughout those games are pivotal. Let alone,

933
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 5: the incomplete pass that they called a fumble, the tripping

934
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 5: call that they called fair catch interference, all the way

935
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 5: down the list, and the Eagle. If this game had

936
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 5: gone in the bills favor, if they make that two

937
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 5: point conversion, the Eagles could say the exact same thing.

938
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 5: They'll tell you fifteen different things that should have gone

939
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 5: their way.

940
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, like the Shavers catch, the Shavers catch which

941
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: probably wasn't one, all of that.

942
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 5: Now, you know. So it's it's just where you live

943
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 5: in these close games.

944
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 6: To Chris in Brooklyn, next, what's up? Chris?

945
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 20: Hey, guys, long time, no, No, says super quick. I

946
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 20: think what we learned yesterday is so the defense is scrappy,

947
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 20: they make adjustments. To me, the issue is the offense,

948
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 20: and I think the offense is going to continue to

949
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 20: be an issue for as long as I think Joe

950
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 20: Brady's not creative, Josh isn't making good decisions. We obviously

951
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 20: know that the receivers are having a hard time getting open,

952
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 20: and I think the offensive line is showing its age.

953
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 20: I don't know if you guys heard Jordan Mylotta's postgame interview,

954
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 20: but he said, you know, sitting where he was on

955
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 20: the sidelines and the Bill's offense is on the field,

956
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 20: He said that the Bills were sort of doing a

957
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 20: lot of the same things over and over again, and

958
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 20: it made me think of the Demico Ryans postgame interview

959
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 20: where he sort of said the same thing. I feel

960
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 20: like the Bills, you know, folks, has has emerged as

961
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 20: a deep threat, and I think they really need to

962
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 20: be more creative because defenses they know what they're going

963
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 20: to get with the Bills, and and I think it's

964
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 20: we're making it easy on these defenses. And I think

965
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 20: they really need to go into their playbook or else

966
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 20: I don't think they're going to really make a deep

967
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 20: run in the playoffs. I think one last thing is,

968
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 20: you know, I think the the Eagles defensive front maybe

969
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 20: not as good as the Texans, but how many times

970
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 20: did we see the Bills with with five down linemen

971
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 20: protecting Josh last night? And I just think it's those

972
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 20: types of in game adjustments that I think are our

973
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 20: mid thing that they can get over that home. You know,

974
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 20: I always believe in the Bills, and and and I

975
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 20: hope that I hope they'll find some some success in

976
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 20: the playoffs.

977
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 6: Thanks guys, Okay, thanks Chris, Yeah, go ahead.

978
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 5: Yeah. The my a lot of comments last night. He

979
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 5: also says some stuff about the Bills conditioning and all that.

980
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 5: And I'll say this, I think Philly has that effect

981
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 5: on some teams because of their size and girth. I mean,

982
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 5: they're big guys down in are really tough to bear

983
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 5: up against.

984
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 2: The Really they have one of the biggest, heaviest offensive

985
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: lines in the league too, right, So the other side.

986
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 5: Of them, there's a little bit of that going on,

987
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 5: no question. And the Bills repeat a lot of philosophies

988
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 5: because they're really good at running them. And the Bills

989
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 5: still rushed for one hundred and twenty yards last night.

990
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 6: It was tough sledding, but and.

991
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 5: It was, but the Eagles rushed for eighty two Yeah,

992
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 5: that's the Bills, the.

993
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 6: Heaviest offensive line of football. They ran for eighty two yards.

994
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 5: They ran for eighty two yards. The Bills had twenty

995
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 5: first downs compared to the eagles eleven first downs they had.

996
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 5: They were six of fifteen for forty percent on third down.

997
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 5: The Eagles were twenty three percent conversion rate on third down.

998
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 5: The Eagles had total one hundred and ninety yards of

999
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 5: offense in that game last night. The Bills had three

1000
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty one.

1001
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: The biggest takeaway for me in this football game is detail,

1002
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: and coach did it after the game.

1003
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 5: It's detailed.

1004
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: Details matter, and when you're in a tight ball game

1005
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: like this, and this is how games are going to

1006
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: be in the playoffs. Details matter, yeah, and Philly did

1007
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: not execute well on offense, but they did sweat the

1008
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: details in a lot of other areas. And because of

1009
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 2: the biggest one, not turn the ball over, Yeah, and

1010
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: it mattered.

1011
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 5: Think about this too. Philly had one the one I

1012
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 5: can think of, and I'm obviously an old special teams guy.

1013
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 5: Think about what a crushing blow it was for Philly

1014
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 5: when the guy stops and the ball stops on the

1015
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 5: one yard line on a punt and their guy comes

1016
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 5: in and makes a complete bonehead place that's on the

1017
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 5: inline and touches the ball. You can't make a more

1018
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 5: idiotic play as a special teams play, and it cost.

1019
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 6: Them nineteen yards field position.

1020
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,959
Speaker 5: And it keeps the Bills from stak taking the first

1021
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 5: forgetting nineteen yards from the forty to the twenty. How

1022
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 5: about from the twenty to the one. You got Josh

1023
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 5: Allen taking a snap standing in his own end zone

1024
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 5: and they let them completely off the hook by that.

1025
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 5: So that's stuff that they did that completely kind of

1026
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 5: flies under the radar because of the two point misconversion

1027
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 5: and the blocked extra point. The whole thing stuff like

1028
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 5: that happens for both teams. The devil is in the

1029
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 5: details in games that are decided by one point, unbelievable

1030
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 5: finish to that game.

1031
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, wide open for your phone

1032
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: calls in hour number two. So if you're holding at

1033
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: eight h three zero five fifty, stay where you are.

1034
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: We'll get to you when we return here on One

1035
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by coliud of Health.

1036
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 6: It's Buffalo Bill's.

1037
00:51:32,560 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: Raids These one Bills Live, presented by Calllida Health.

1038
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: All right, back here on a very windy Monday in

1039
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: Western New York, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on

1040
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: the heels of Buffalo's thirteen to twelve loss to the Eagles.

1041
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: Chance to win with five seconds left on a two

1042
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 2: point conversion, but it's unsuccessful and the Bills fall to

1043
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 2: eleven and five on the season, and the AFC East

1044
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: goes to the Patriots. I don't think we mentioned that

1045
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 2: in the first hour, but with that loss, the Bills

1046
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: clinch the AFC East, ending Buffalo's five year reign as

1047
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: AFC East champions, and Patriots will be playing for the

1048
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: number one seed this weekend. If the Broncos are able

1049
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 2: to beat the Chargers, they will be the number one seed.

1050
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: But if they lose and the Patriots beat the Dolphins,

1051
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: the Patriots could be the number one seed for the

1052
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: af SEE playoffs and get a bye week. But we

1053
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: want to get to the phones at eight oh three,

1054
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: oh five fifty for your biggest takeaways from yesterday's game

1055
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: and to Mark in West senecon X.

1056
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 6: What's up?

1057
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 5: Mark?

1058
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 21: Hey, guys, God bless the Patriots with their first place

1059
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 21: schedule next year and they'll go nine to eight. But

1060
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 21: that that'd be it said. I just want to you

1061
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 21: guys touched on it a little bit. You touched on

1062
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 21: the refereeing and we here we are at the end

1063
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 21: of another NFL season and it's always more of the same.

1064
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 21: And you did say, Chris, you know, close games this

1065
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 21: time of year, especially the calls, the bad calls, the

1066
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 21: non calls get ampled.

1067
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 20: You guys.

1068
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 21: First of all, what has the owners the owners done.

1069
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 21: I can't believe they're fine with what they watch every

1070
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 21: season and it doesn't seem to be getting better at all.

1071
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 21: And it's all around the league every year. And what

1072
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 21: have they legitimately done, tagible to try and help the

1073
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 21: ruffer and I know it's not an easy job, and

1074
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 21: I know there's no quick fix. I understand that, but

1075
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 21: we have to strive to get better than what we're getting.

1076
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 8: And what have they done?

1077
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 21: And I'm not talking about rule changes, interpretations of rules,

1078
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 21: replays and what you're allowed to challenge and not challenge,

1079
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 21: or by the way, why is it that you can't

1080
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 21: add at least once a half or even once a game,

1081
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 21: each team gets to challenge a penalty call or a

1082
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 21: non call. It's not going to extend the game that much.

1083
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 21: If you say that was interference then they didn't call it,

1084
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 21: or that was an interference and they called it, and

1085
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 21: we should be able to challenge that. I don't understand

1086
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 21: why they're protecting the referees, but then especially when sky

1087
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 21: judges are now getting things wrong. So that's my first question,

1088
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 21: what is one thing in tangible that they've actually done?

1089
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 21: And then the other question is for you, Steve, because

1090
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 21: I'm on board with you. I thought that call on

1091
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 21: Josh absolutely ridiculous. If you were in charge, Chris Anstey,

1092
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 21: from both of you, what would be the very first

1093
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 21: thing that you would do to try and help these

1094
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 21: guys make the calls White more often than they are

1095
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 21: right now because something apps And I know everybody talks

1096
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 21: about old time refs and all those kinds of things,

1097
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 21: but would you add a side judge on each side

1098
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 21: of the line of the field stuff like that? Would

1099
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 21: you have seminars?

1100
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I get what you're saying, are understand, I got you.

1101
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 5: Here's me. Let you go here.

1102
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 6: Let's be a lot of people with me.

1103
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 5: Let me just say this. And I know I went

1104
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 5: off on Mark and Tonawanda about him thinking that was

1105
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 5: a fumble. I don't agree. There's just no way you

1106
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 5: can convince me. And I would love to hear somebody's

1107
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 5: rationale for what that was. I'd like to hear the

1108
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 5: officials rationale for what it was and why it wasn't reversed.

1109
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 5: There's no way you can convince me that wasn't a

1110
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 5: forward pass anyway, that being a side the stuff that

1111
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 5: they've done to help the officials, the sky judge has

1112
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 5: been absolutely huge for that and I think more often

1113
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 5: than not, that has been a huge boost for getting

1114
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 5: it right for officials. And I know that some of

1115
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 5: the stuff they do is is a little unnoticed, which

1116
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 5: is perfect. Uh So, Mark from West Senega you might

1117
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 5: say this not noticing how much they have done is

1118
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 5: a huge plus for what the league has done to

1119
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 5: help the officials. The sky judge has done everything from

1120
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 5: help them spot the ball more accurately, to giving them

1121
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 5: first downs when they really give them first downs, calling

1122
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 5: them short when they should call them short, incomplete passes

1123
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 5: when it's incomplete passes.

1124
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: It's also sped up the review process because they're already

1125
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: looking at it upstairs instead of a ref on the field,

1126
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: jogging over to the side of the field, getting under

1127
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: the hood.

1128
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 6: That's been eliminated. So it's sped up the game as well.

1129
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 5: And unlike what you really think you're saying, like when

1130
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 5: when they ask like they should be able to challenge

1131
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 5: non calls as well as made calls. That's big candle

1132
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 5: that is. You don't want to do that. Uh, they

1133
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 5: do that in the CFL, and a lot of people know.

1134
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 5: One of my sons played in the Sea for seven

1135
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 5: years and I had a blast. We had a blast

1136
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 5: going up to watch CFL games. It's a great league

1137
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 5: up there, but they are allowed to do that up there,

1138
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 5: and what it and to me and I saw it

1139
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 5: in action, forget it. You don't want to do it

1140
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 5: because they are allowed to do it up there, and

1141
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 5: it is an absolute game wreckerd for the for the

1142
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:26,479
Speaker 5: flow of the game, for what happens. They strategize those

1143
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 5: challenges for when they can do it. It's it's it's

1144
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 5: not a place where the NFL should go, and I

1145
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 5: don't want to get in when I could get into

1146
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 5: the whys. But here's what happens. They get into the

1147
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 5: third quarter, deep in the third quarter, and they have

1148
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 5: they don't want to use their challenges until the second

1149
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 5: half when they see how the game is going. And

1150
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 5: then uh like Josh Allen bust into the end zone

1151
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 5: on that fourth and two, and they challenge the call

1152
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 5: on the field because away from the play there was

1153
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 5: a holding on the on the offensive lineman or the

1154
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 5: receiver was lined up too far off the line script

1155
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 5: whatever they wanted conjure up. They challenge it and yes, okay,

1156
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 5: you're right, that was a penalty. The touchdown comes off

1157
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 5: the board. And that's what they do. You give up

1158
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 5: a sixty eight yard touchdown or you score a sixty

1159
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 5: eight yard touchdown against somebody, and the other team throws

1160
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 5: their challenge flag and they say, well, the receiver on

1161
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 5: the other side or whatever, or they get a pick

1162
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 5: six and they say the receiver on the other side

1163
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 5: was held by the defensive back away from the play

1164
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 5: out of the play and there's a penalty all the

1165
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 5: way across the field and it call comes back. So

1166
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 5: you get these huge plays in the game that are

1167
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 5: all called back because some minor infraction away from the

1168
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 5: play was noted by the coaching staff or the other team.

1169
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 5: You don't want to go down that road of having

1170
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 5: a team be able to challenge a non call. That's

1171
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 5: not a rabbit hole you want to go down. And

1172
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 5: I tangible stuff that they've done to help these officials.

1173
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 5: It's the league is replete with examples the first down.

1174
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 5: And I know it's been a kind of a joke

1175
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 5: this year, but the hawkeye technology, the pylon cam has

1176
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 5: been huge. That was a plus. All of that stuff,

1177
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 5: the skycam and the sky judge has been a huge

1178
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 5: boost for the league. And I know I'm hammering the

1179
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 5: guy for making that a fumble on Josh's in what

1180
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 5: I think is an incomplete pass. In this game, it's

1181
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 5: gotten better and better and better. And I think if

1182
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 5: you go back when I was a kid, when I

1183
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 5: was a teenager. When I was a player, having the

1184
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 5: ability to go back and make the call right has

1185
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 5: been an enormous boost for the league. So I think

1186
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 5: they're headed in the right direction. And I've said it

1187
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 5: a million times the league. The reason the League is

1188
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 5: an eight hundred pound gorilla is because they get just

1189
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 5: about every issue that faces them exactly the way it

1190
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 5: should be and some time and usually takes them too

1191
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 5: long to get there. But man, when they solve it,

1192
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 5: they solve it and it works. So I know I

1193
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 5: hammer the officials. I'm notorious. I was the worst as

1194
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 5: a player, but all in all, they do a fantastic

1195
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 5: job on a job that's almost impossible to get right.

1196
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 5: I hate that I had to say that, but I did.

1197
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think as long as as long as

1198
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: you have humans officiating, there is going to be human error.

1199
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: To expect perfection is unrealistic for a game that moves

1200
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: that fast and that involves judgment calls. And if you

1201
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 2: think that the league is going to open the door

1202
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: to allow teams to challenge judgment calls like pass interference,

1203
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 2: I think you're mistaken. And it's going to be very

1204
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: interesting this offseason because the referees contract with the league

1205
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 2: is up, and there is movement to have full time

1206
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: officials and to have training programs that these these people

1207
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: immersed in three hundred and sixty five days a year.

1208
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: Will that make a difference. I don't know that it will,

1209
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, you still have

1210
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: humans officiating a very fast moving sport with elite athletes,

1211
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 2: and they're not gonna be perfect. And to expect perfection,

1212
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: I think is unrealistic. And I'll tell you with that

1213
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: being my mindset, when I go into call games, I

1214
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: breathe a lot easier now than I used to because

1215
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: I used to be a raving lunatic at officials and

1216
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: I've just I've just prepared my mind going into the

1217
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: game saying they're not gonna be perfect. They're gonna miss

1218
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: some calls. Let's just hope they miss more for the

1219
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 2: other team than our team.

1220
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 5: And you don't want to you gotta live with it. Yeah,

1221
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 5: And that's the thing too. It's a it's a huge

1222
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 5: It's always gonna be an issue. It always will because

1223
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 5: things are gonna get called against you, right, That's just happened.

1224
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 5: They're gonna get called against you and they're gonna you're

1225
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 5: gonna get bad breaks and you get bad bounces.

1226
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 6: Just prepare yourself and pack your patience. It's hard. You

1227
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 6: gotta do it.

1228
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 5: It's hard, and you know it's never going to be perfect.

1229
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 5: It's never going to be perfect, and certainly it's not now.

1230
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 5: But I say this, it really makes a difference when

1231
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 5: you know that there's a guy upstairs looking it over

1232
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 5: and they can get it right immediately. Yeah, and if

1233
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 5: it is a called play, they can reverse it. But

1234
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 5: I think you're never going to get around the fact

1235
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 5: that if it's a non call, there is nothing you

1236
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 5: can do about it.

1237
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 6: From Mark in West Seneca to Mark in New Jersey,

1238
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 6: what's up Mark.

1239
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 22: Good afternoon, gentlemen. That's all right. Tour Boards crew was

1240
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 22: pretty bad yesterday, That's all I'll say. I don't positive negative.

1241
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 22: I felt like this cobble together defensive line was awesome yesterday.

1242
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 22: They almost got home on Hurts. They flustered him, they

1243
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 22: held up the run amazing. I think Fiderian Mathis and

1244
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 22: T J. Sanders played their best games as Bills. Andre Jones,

1245
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 22: why isn't he played more? He's wow, he played it.

1246
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 22: He played great. So that's that's really positive this the

1247
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 22: defense as a whole. Once Shack settled in that middle

1248
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 22: linebacker after Bernard went out, it's it's night and day.

1249
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 22: Had the defense plays, that's something they're going to have

1250
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 22: to wreckt the fire, just come to terms with. On offense,

1251
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 22: the one play call I hated the most was the

1252
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 22: play call before the Josh scramble, just to give up

1253
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 22: the middle to Cooke. They could not make Hay up

1254
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 22: the middle all game. I don't understand why they just

1255
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 22: kept trying to run at Jordan Davis and Carter. It

1256
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 22: was like, stop doing that. The only time Cook made

1257
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 22: Hay is when he retraced and went to the edge.

1258
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 22: So that was the one play call stands. The play

1259
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 22: before the hook and ladder with the Ty Johnson bubble

1260
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 22: screen that went nowhere. And we're not talking about any

1261
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 22: of this. If Matt Prader is healthy, it's an amazing thing.

1262
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 22: If Matt Prader's healthy, it's a great win. And Wow,

1263
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 22: another comeback and not even maybe a comeback. Maybe they

1264
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 22: put twenty three up. You know they kicked the field

1265
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 22: goals because I think there was when Josh took the

1266
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 22: crazy sack. I don't think that they were going to

1267
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 22: let badgely kick that.

1268
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 5: That's a good point there, Mark, That's it. You can

1269
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 5: make that call. Except he hadn't had anything bad happened

1270
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 5: to him yet by that time in the game, right,

1271
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 5: I mean he was, so they might have said, no,

1272
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 5: we're sending him out there and we expect him to

1273
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 5: make it. So having had him block that extra point

1274
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 5: block hadn't been hadn't happened that then, so they might

1275
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 5: trust have trusted him in that case, given what happened,

1276
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 5: given whatever feedback that got from him pregame, in his

1277
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 5: pregame warm up saying, listen, I'm good from this far

1278
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 5: out from that direction. Unless there was something like that

1279
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 5: going on, I think they might have sent him out there.

1280
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 5: But you're that's a good point by you.

1281
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 22: Yeah, I just I just think they got to a

1282
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 22: certain distance and just given maybe what they know about

1283
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 22: him for the prior week, they just like, unless it's

1284
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 22: absolutely necessary, we're just not going to let him kick.

1285
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 22: And that's already in Josh's head. Josh is going to

1286
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 22: be the his cape is forever on. And he did

1287
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 22: he did what he did, and that play he's getting

1288
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 22: roasted about cooks being opened Zach Bond kind of just humbled,

1289
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 22: hovered in a weird spot, and the play was and

1290
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 22: so it happened so damn fast. It's like it's easy

1291
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,479
Speaker 22: for people to watch that replay and say Cooks is open.

1292
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 22: If you look at where Bond was, he was just

1293
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 22: right there. I think he would have might have come

1294
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 22: downhill on Cooks and he might have stopped him. But

1295
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 22: Josh makes that play nine point nine times out of

1296
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 22: ten he gets on the end zone. I just didn't

1297
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 22: like to play before that, the cook run up the middle.

1298
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 22: I hated that play. Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 5: Guys, yep, sure that the inside guy. They might have

1300
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 5: scared him off the throw. Bond might have scared him

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01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 5: off the throw. You're right, but you know we'll never know.

1302
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 5: Or Hunt might have as well because he pumped it

1303
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 5: inside when when it was there. But he's just came

1304
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 5: up short. That's all there is to it. And you're right,

1305
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 5: and I'll say this to you. I don't know, we

1306
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 5: can conjecture anything you want. Maybe sometimes maybe, well not maybe.

1307
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 5: Usually Josh just bowls in there and gets there. But

1308
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 5: the Eagles rallied really well, he had too many guys

1309
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 5: there to get through at that point. Uh, he tried

1310
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 5: to put his arm on the ground and get in

1311
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 5: and couldn't get there. And that's just the way it is,

1312
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 5: that play right there, and it ended up you know,

1313
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 5: the Eagles punded three and out the next series anyway,

1314
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 5: But you know he started from that, you started from that.

1315
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 5: You know, good field position after this as well anyway.

1316
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 5: But still, you know, that's just one of those plays

1317
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 5: where we've seen Josh make that work.

1318
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: And I think they do give badly the chance to

1319
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: kick the field goal. I mean it's third and eight

1320
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: at the twenty seven, it's a forty five yard field goal.

1321
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 6: I mean, they're giving him a chance there.

1322
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they probably would.

1323
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 6: They're giving him a chance and who knows, points off

1324
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 6: the board.

1325
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 5: Maybe that gets blocked to we don't know, but at

1326
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 5: that point he hadn't had one blocked, and yeah, they

1327
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 5: probably would have given him a shot.

1328
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 6: To Wendy and holy n, what's up, Wendy.

1329
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 17: Wendy, are you there my question?

1330
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 16: I am here ahead and hear me.

1331
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 18: Yeah for us, Well, I was just listening.

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01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 12: I'm worried about the kick her and you didn't mention

1333
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 12: it until just now.

1334
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 13: I was just listening.

1335
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 8: So is there a chance we're going to get anybody else?

1336
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think the question is whether or not Matt

1337
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: Prater is healthy enough to kick this week. I think

1338
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: that's the biggest question here, Wendy, because badly we heard

1339
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: coach McDermott mention it after the game where he said,

1340
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: you know, the operation was slow in terms of the

1341
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 2: get off. He felt that was part of the reason

1342
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: why the extra point attempt was blocked by Jalen Carter,

1343
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 2: because you allowed time for the penetration to not only

1344
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: meet the line, but also jump and get a hand

1345
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: in the air. So I'll tell you right now, and

1346
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: I only know this because I've watched a lot of

1347
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 2: Georgia football and I know some of the stuff that

1348
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 2: happens in their practice regimen. They practice about an hour

1349
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: every day on kickblocks at Georgia practice in college. So

1350
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, who are Georgia alums, know what

1351
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: they're doing on field goal block because they've practiced it

1352
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: countless number of times at the University of Georgia, where

1353
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: special teams is a very very high priority. Because Kirby

1354
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: Smart was largely a special teams player when he played

1355
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 2: at Georgia. It's a core philosophy of his. And they

1356
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 2: don't miss in the kicking game. They have an outstanding kicker,

1357
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 2: they have an outstanding snapper, they have an outstanding punter.

1358
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 2: They're all all Americans, and all of their defensive players,

1359
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 2: frontline defensive players play on field goal block like they

1360
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 2: drill it to high heaven. So seeing Jalen Carter get

1361
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: a field goal block was not terribly shocking to me,

1362
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: or an extra point block.

1363
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 5: We said, the details are important. And Tom Brady was

1364
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 5: who was on the call yesterday. He said, that's and

1365
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 5: and let's face it, the cheap the Eagles are a

1366
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 5: championship caliber team. They want their defending world champions and

1367
01:08:55,360 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 5: Brady said it himself, no play is a waste, Every

1368
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 5: single play matters, and he's right. You get a guy

1369
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 5: like Jalen Carter who is enormous, and maybe the guy's

1370
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 5: up front, reed Ferguson, and whoever the guard, maybe it

1371
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 5: is Cibo right there next to him. They probably gave

1372
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 5: up about as much penetration as they usually do, but

1373
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 5: they got a guy that's six inches taller than most

1374
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 5: guys are and able to leap and get his hand

1375
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 5: up the guy's long.

1376
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:33,839
Speaker 2: On an uber talented defense. Anyone will tell you Jalen

1377
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: Carter is the best player on that defensive unit. And

1378
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: that's saying something, yeah, because you got Pro Bowlers, first

1379
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 2: team All Pro on that group and Jalen Carter is

1380
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: the cream of the crop and he was back in

1381
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: the lineup and made a giant difference yesterday. Gotta take

1382
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 2: a break here. More of your phone calls when we

1383
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 2: get back. So if you're holding there at eight O

1384
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: three oh five fifty, stay where you are. We're wide

1385
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: open for phone calls for the rest of this hour.

1386
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 2: Here on one Bill's Live presented by KLIDA Health, It's

1387
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio.

1388
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 6: Ty Johnson to.

1389
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 4: His left, here's a snap back to pass fires. It's caught.

1390
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 4: It's a hook and ladder, and it's going for a

1391
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 4: first down up.

1392
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 3: Over midfield and out of bounds into Eagles territory.

1393
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 4: The hook and ladder works again.

1394
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1395
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 2: The fourth and ten Allen to Shaver's pitch to Ty

1396
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 2: Johnson for twenty five yards is your big Energy play

1397
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 2: of the Week, presented by National Grid. National Grid brings

1398
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 2: reliable energy to Bill's Mafia and beyond going to get

1399
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 2: right back to the phones because we've got a lot

1400
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 2: of people holding at eight oh three oh five fifty

1401
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 2: one eighty eight five fifty two, five point fifty and

1402
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: to bow in Rochester.

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01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 6: What's up?

1404
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 13: Bo Hey, how's going guys?

1405
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 16: Day?

1406
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 15: Man?

1407
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 17: I hope you guys had had a great holiday. Thanks

1408
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,480
Speaker 17: for picking up. I really wish today was a victory Monday.

1409
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 14: But uh, hey is what it is.

1410
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 13: We're in the playoffs.

1411
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 17: I have a very weird question for you. Are you

1412
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 17: guys listening, Yeah, okay, my bad. So I'm a season

1413
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 17: take aholder. I'm next to the tunnel and I saw

1414
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 17: Spencer Brown walk off the field and a lot of

1415
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 17: the lot of the defensive players were kind of jeering

1416
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 17: him and kind of like get in the space. He

1417
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 17: seemed very upset. So took me the two hours to

1418
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 17: get home, and I saw what happened. He took he

1419
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 17: took a finger in the eye and it was what

1420
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 17: looks like very intentional. And then I saw his post

1421
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 17: game and he was very upset about it. Kind of

1422
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 17: a weird question, more more so for you, tasker, is

1423
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 17: there what sort of like hr like does somebody reach

1424
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 17: out to the NFL about this do you wait for

1425
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 17: the league to reach.

1426
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 5: Out to you?

1427
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 17: Do you talk to your higher ups in in office?

1428
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 17: And one bill's one bills drive. I'm just curious to

1429
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 17: see all that problem.

1430
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 6: You're talking about the eye gouge, not the talk, the

1431
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 6: trash talk.

1432
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 17: After the Yeah, the initial eye gouge.

1433
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 6: You know.

1434
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, here's the thing. It go ahead, you have

1435
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 5: anything else, Bo.

1436
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 17: You're a part of like a very big, you know,

1437
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 17: obviously multi billion dollar corporation. Obviously, I I work in

1438
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 17: a building with twenty people and there's there's HR set up.

1439
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 17: So once if say Mary steals my sandwich from from

1440
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 17: the from the cooler.

1441
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 18: Yeah, I.

1442
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 13: Get upset.

1443
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 17: I'm gonna reach out to HR.

1444
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 13: Like who do the who do the players have to who.

1445
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 17: Do they reach out to you?

1446
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's true. Yeah, Bo, that's a real thing.

1447
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 5: If it has to be pretty blatant to uh to

1448
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 5: have that happen, and and you know, you can kind

1449
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 5: of players can tell you. They can tell when it's intentional.

1450
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 5: Spencer think things is like he kind of in his

1451
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 5: post game comments, He's like, well, yeah, it kind of was.

1452
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 5: He felt like it was. I'm sure he probably said something.

1453
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 5: Uh it has to be way more blatant than it

1454
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 5: was in that game yesterday. But yes, the league reviews

1455
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 5: all of it and it will be brought up to

1456
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 5: the league for them to review all of that stuff

1457
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 5: is each team goes over instances, they take notes. You

1458
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 5: can see sometimes head coaches writing stuff down on notes.

1459
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's that kind of stuff that have people up

1460
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 5: in the booth. And of course the players will say

1461
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 5: something to the coaches. They let the guy's poking me

1462
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 5: in the eye every third play that kind of thing.

1463
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 5: When it becomes an issue and it's ongoing and a

1464
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 5: player starts to be known for that, yeah that something

1465
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 5: will be done. But I'll say this as well, it's

1466
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 5: like old time hockey kind of stuff. If you get

1467
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 5: known because players watch film, if it gets known that

1468
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 5: you do that to certain players, first of all, if

1469
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 5: they play again, Spencer Brown probably wear advisor.

1470
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 23: Yeah.

1471
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 5: Second of all, what goes around comes around. You can

1472
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 5: expect him to have eye problems in the coming you

1473
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 5: know what I mean. If that's a thing they don't

1474
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 5: play around, you'll get retaliated against. That's just the way.

1475
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 5: If they see it on film time after time and

1476
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 5: guys take issue with it, time after time, and it

1477
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 5: keeps happening time after time. Players will seek revenge. It's

1478
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 5: just a human nature. But it has to be pretty

1479
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 5: blatant and it has to be the same thing over

1480
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 5: and over, and players get players get reputations for that right,

1481
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 5: So it's not something that's like, all of a sudden,

1482
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 5: everybody's gonna be after whatever. Who was a Clayton? Was

1483
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 5: it Jalen Carter or who was it?

1484
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 6: I can't remember who it was. There was another call

1485
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 6: that the refs missed.

1486
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: It was illegal hands to the face first because the

1487
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 2: guy put Spencer Brown in a chokehold and then gouged

1488
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: him in the eye after that.

1489
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 6: Now, the other part is.

1490
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 2: Most offensive linemen have a much higher cage on their

1491
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: helmet to avoid that very thing. They have a much

1492
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: higher cage. Spencer Brown has a pretty low ke cage

1493
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: as far as his face mask goes. And I believe

1494
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: more often than not, and I'm not going to pretend

1495
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 2: to know this for sure, but I believe Spencer Brown

1496
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 2: usually plays with a visor. But it was raining yesterday,

1497
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: and when you have rain to that degree, it impairs

1498
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 2: your vision because of all the droplets that are on

1499
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 2: your visor. So I believe he usually plays with one.

1500
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 2: Yesterday he probably asked the equipment staff to take it

1501
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 2: off because it was raining and he gets gouged in

1502
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 2: the eye. So there's a simple fix for that. Put

1503
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 2: the visor back on, hopefully it's not raining, or have

1504
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 2: a higher cage so a guy can't get his fingers

1505
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 2: inside your face mask. But the team, if Spencer Brown

1506
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 2: wants to, can file agrievance with that either A for

1507
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 2: the miscall B for the conduct of play, and finds

1508
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: will get handed out the following Thursday. And maybe there's

1509
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 2: one there if they feel that that is a blatant

1510
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: attempt to injure because Spencer said after the game his

1511
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: vision was still blurring in that eye.

1512
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, And so right when it happened, and on

1513
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 5: the play it happened, there was I think another penalty

1514
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 5: that happened as well on.

1515
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 6: That they missed the legal hands of the face on

1516
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 6: that one. It was bad.

1517
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's the way it goes. And that's the

1518
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 5: kind of thing that it to me, that's the first

1519
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 5: time I've never heard of. I mean, so if it

1520
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 5: was Jack, I can't remember, if his Jalen Carter.

1521
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, or if it was remember seeing a

1522
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 2: hand to his throat and it rolled right up to

1523
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 2: his chin, not cocked his head back.

1524
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 5: Whether it's Jordan Davis or Jalen Carter one of the

1525
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 5: two defensive tier, or maybe it was one of the

1526
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 5: other guys too, I don't right, it's irrelevant, but the

1527
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 5: guy will get a reputation pretty quick, so I and

1528
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 5: I don't think I haven't heard about that from any

1529
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 5: other games or whatever. So in all reality, it could

1530
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 5: have been an accident where the guy was going to

1531
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 5: try and move and it just worked out that he

1532
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 5: went right for it, Carter, So you know, so you

1533
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 5: got all that. But yes, all kinds of reports go

1534
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 5: in on Mondays, and I've heard sometimes teams will have

1535
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 5: as many as eighteen or twenty items that they want

1536
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 5: the league to say, Hey what about this, Like it'll

1537
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 5: be a penalty call they want clarified, it'll be.

1538
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 6: A call.

1539
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of non calls are on those notes.

1540
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 5: So yeah, there's all kinds of back and forth between

1541
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 5: the league that they want reviewed on a week to

1542
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 5: week basis. Yes, that is a common occurrence.

1543
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 6: So go to John and Niagara Falls next. What's up John?

1544
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well thanks for taking my call.

1545
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 16: Are you there?

1546
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1547
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 5: Ahead? John, waiting on you.

1548
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 24: Hey, I just wanted to admire Steve's passion and back

1549
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 24: up what he was saying about that forward pass. I

1550
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 24: admired the passion because if you know what you're talking

1551
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 24: about and you know the rule, it's good to be

1552
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 24: passionate about that. But here's the NFL's rule eight on

1553
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 24: a forward pass. A forward pass is a pass if

1554
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 24: the ball initially moves forward to the point near the

1555
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 24: opponent's goal line after leaving the passer's hand or b

1556
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,959
Speaker 24: the ball first strikes the ground, a player, an official,

1557
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 24: or anything else at the point that is nearer the

1558
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 24: opponent's goal line than the point at which the ball

1559
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 24: leaves the passer's hand. And then there's also a note

1560
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 24: regarding an intentional fumble, and the note says, a ball

1561
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 24: that is intentionally fumbled and goes forward is a forward pass.

1562
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 5: So there you have it.

1563
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So even if you felt it was fumbled, it's

1564
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 2: still a forward pass based on the motion of his arm.

1565
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 5: So Steve, right, Well, I appreciate you. I appreciate you, John,

1566
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 5: And I gotta be honest with you and this and

1567
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 5: this is I don't care what the rule says. I

1568
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 5: really don't. You can go back here. They've tinkered with

1569
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 5: this all because it that is nothing but a forward pass.

1570
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 5: Whether it was a good idea or a bad idea,

1571
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 5: whether whatever his intent was, it's all irrelevant. It's irrelevant.

1572
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 5: He threw the football and went forth, bounced off the

1573
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 5: guy's leg and bounced backwards the other way. And I

1574
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 5: don't know what the I don't know how the rep

1575
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 5: I'd like to hear the replay officials.

1576
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that the media didn't ask for a pool

1577
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 2: report after the game with Ron Torbert. So it's a

1578
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: lot of times if you have a controversial play, you know,

1579
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:39,959
Speaker 2: in a tight game, maybe because.

1580
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 6: It was so early and the gosh had con patrol

1581
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 6: of the football.

1582
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the motion of his arm should be all the

1583
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 2: evidence you need for that to Rob in California next, what's.

1584
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 6: Up, Rob?

1585
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 4: Hey?

1586
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 25: Just curious, if you're down fourteen, you're gonna go for

1587
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 25: two twice? Why do you not go for two on

1588
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 25: the first one? Knowing Badgely's you know, last few week

1589
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 25: because it was.

1590
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 6: Only it was only thirteen nothing.

1591
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 5: It was thirteen nothing, so it wasn't fourteen and two

1592
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 5: extra points, which are usually fingercult. Given you just take

1593
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 5: the two extra points and you're going to be there now,

1594
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 5: it does make well, yeah, there's because also it's it's

1595
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 5: going to take a touchdown to win it anyway on

1596
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 5: the second touchdown, So yeah, and extra points are ninety

1597
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 5: percent good when you kick them.

1598
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 25: Yeah, it just I don't know. I guess maybe you

1599
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 25: just didn't feel good about it to start. You go

1600
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 25: for two the first time. If you don't make it,

1601
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 25: you're still need seven to tie. You still could go

1602
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 25: for two again to win, you know.

1603
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't know.

1604
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 25: I just thought of the in the moment, even before

1605
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 25: it was missed.

1606
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, well there you go.

1607
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 6: I get what you're saying. It's only thirteen.

1608
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: Uh the extra point only like you kick the extra

1609
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 2: point after the first touchdown, you're only down six, and

1610
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 2: the touchdown ties it, and the second extra point wins

1611
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: it because you're only down thirteen.

1612
01:20:59,040 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 6: Nothing.

1613
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 2: I don't think you really need to start chasing points

1614
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 2: there by going for two, which is my interpret to me,

1615
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 2: you're chasing points if you're going for two after the

1616
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: first touchdown, kick the extra point, you're down six, A

1617
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 2: touchdown ties it and the extra point wins it.

1618
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 6: I don't think there's any need to.

1619
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 5: Go for two there yet. It's a ninety percent conversion

1620
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 5: rate when you kick the extra point, and it's a

1621
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 5: fifty percent conversion rate when you go for two. Now

1622
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 5: you can say, well, if you go for two twice,

1623
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 5: one of those two you're gonna get. Well, in the

1624
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 5: big picture, it's fifty percent. But if you miss two,

1625
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 5: then maybe you get two in a row. But the

1626
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 5: bills are one of five on two point converted, well,

1627
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 5: now they're one of six.

1628
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 6: On two point.

1629
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 2: I haven't been good at them this year, not good

1630
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 2: at them, so all the more reason to just kick

1631
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: the extra point right. Unfortunately, got it blocked to Eddie

1632
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 2: and Lancaster next, what's up Eddie?

1633
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks for taking a call. Happy New Year,

1634
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 13: Happy holiday. Yeah yeah, Steve, if you're dead on, I mean, listen,

1635
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 13: I don't have to get upset about rough calls. That

1636
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 13: can be bad, you calling you a judge calls. I

1637
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 13: just don't get involved with it, man, because it's gonna

1638
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 13: go probably both ways sometimes unless you're the chiefs. But

1639
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 13: I mean, that's what aggravates me, is just what aggravated you.

1640
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 13: If you're watching a replay of a man's arm going forward.

1641
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 13: Who's a quarterback. And in today dan age, we all

1642
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 13: know watching these.

1643
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 9: Great quarterbacks like Mahomes, like like Josh, they'll do a

1644
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 9: shuffle pass, they'll do a underhand pass, they'll do a

1645
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 9: side arm pass. Listen, man, they do passes underneath guy's arms,

1646
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 9: and I don't want to hear about it.

1647
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 15: The arm is moving forward.

1648
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 13: It's not a judgment call.

1649
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 9: There was no fumble. He never struck the ball. He

1650
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 9: wasn't carrying the ball. His arm was moving forward, and

1651
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 9: there was an attacker that was right in front of him.

1652
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 9: I mean, let's get to the point now where a

1653
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 9: guy throws a pass and it gets blocked at the line.

1654
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 13: It's not a fumble. It's so ridiculous.

1655
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 5: I yeah. The good thing about it now, I'll say this.

1656
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 5: You watch the replay and it happened, and I remember

1657
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 5: thinking this also when the live action play, tor Berg

1658
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 5: is behind him, he can't really see it, and it

1659
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 5: happened fast, and live action you can understand why it

1660
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 5: was called a fumble and it bounced backwards. I get

1661
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 5: all of that, but the replay official like doubled down

1662
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 5: on it. That's what really blew my mind. I cannot

1663
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 5: understand why that was called the way it was and

1664
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,759
Speaker 5: whether the replay official didn't have the right angle whatever.

1665
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 5: To me, nobody ever hit his arm. He threw it

1666
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 5: forward and didn't lose control of it. So we can,

1667
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 5: we can, you know whatever. I just I don't know.

1668
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 5: I just can't get it. I just can't get it.

1669
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 5: And I know there are people and they have Philly

1670
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 5: fans are going no, no, it was a fumble all

1671
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 5: the way. I I don't know. We can talk about

1672
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 5: it all the way, but you're right, you can't. You

1673
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,879
Speaker 5: can't get worried about the pass interference call, the judgment

1674
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 5: calls and all of that. He just it's a bad

1675
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 5: place to live. They're never going to be perfort And

1676
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 5: that's why stuff like this really gets under your skin,

1677
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 5: because this is something you feel like it should have

1678
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 5: gone your way and it didn't. Yeah, okay, there you.

1679
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 2: Go, break time for us more calls when we get

1680
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: back here. On one Bill's Live Stay with Us. Late

1681
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 2: motion from Smith left to right. It's a pitch play

1682
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: left to Barkley, look at a cut it back. He's

1683
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 2: tripped up and up ended. They're gonna give his forward

1684
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: progress to the twenty six. It's a four yard loss.

1685
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 2: Matt Mulano with the tackle for loss. And that's this

1686
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: week's clean play of the Week presented by Tide. If

1687
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 2: it's gotta be clean, it's gotta be tied. And that

1688
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: was the last series on offense of the game for

1689
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 2: the Eagles. Second down run stop on Saquon Barkley, who

1690
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 2: averaged only three point six yards per carrying. Milano there

1691
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 2: with a three yard loss on a Barkley run. As uh,

1692
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: he's looking more and more like the old Matt Milano

1693
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 2: the last three weeks. Came into this game with nineteen

1694
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 2: tackles in his last two games and a couple of

1695
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: sacks and had some impact plays yesterday. Got to get

1696
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 2: back to the phones though, at ETO three zero five

1697
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 2: fifty one five fifty fifty into Bobby and Buffalo.

1698
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 26: It's up, Bobby, Hey, guys, how you doing today?

1699
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 5: Good?

1700
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 21: Listen?

1701
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 26: Uh, Chris, I wanted to listen. I feel like everybody

1702
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 26: else felt about the about the pass. You know what

1703
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 26: I'm gonna say this, regardless regardless of it was a

1704
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 26: forward pass or fumble. The Bills got robbed on that call.

1705
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 26: That's number one, number two. Now to end the game.

1706
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 23: I know, I know, I know.

1707
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 26: I heard the interviews after the game and everything. Sean

1708
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 26: McDermott said he's a gambler. Well, well, listen, if if, if,

1709
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 26: if coach McDermott is listening right now, I would say, coach,

1710
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 26: you roll the dice and you missed. That's all I'm

1711
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 26: to tell you. You rolled the dice and you're missed.

1712
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 26: Instead of going for two, what the Bills should have

1713
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 26: done was kick the extra point and played for overtime. Okay,

1714
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 26: and if you would have played for overtime, who knows

1715
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 26: what have happened. Okay, yeah, but yeah, but you know what.

1716
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 26: But but like I said, you know, but listen, And

1717
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 26: I also got to say this, James isn't the only

1718
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 26: Bills that can cook. Brandon was cooking yesterday. Okay, listen,

1719
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 26: the Bills need to let Brandon cook a lot more. Okay,

1720
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 26: I'll get you guys. Thoughts.

1721
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 10: Have a good day.

1722
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks, Bobby.

1723
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's an opportunities.

1724
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1725
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 5: Remember, he's dropped a couple of key spots, and that's

1726
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 5: kind of the problem. Yesterday he didn't.

1727
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if he can do more than that. If

1728
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 2: you can do more of that, then the Bills are

1729
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 2: more dangerous passing offense with him in it come the playoffs,

1730
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 2: and it's something for opponents to be aware of.

1731
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 5: You don't forget too, you know, we're talking about the plays.

1732
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 5: He had a couple of kind of conspicuous drops in

1733
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks, but he dropped it when

1734
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 5: he was open, and that's that's it. Right there, he

1735
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 5: was getting some separation deep yesterday. I'm looking out that

1736
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 5: one there where Josh threw it to his outside shoulder.

1737
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 5: He was open.

1738
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 6: He's trying to lead him away from the defender.

1739
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 5: Right. It's tough to you know, hit those. I mean,

1740
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 5: the further downfield you get the lower and lower percentage

1741
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 5: it is of completion. But man, he's got some separation and.

1742
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 6: Oh he's still got some juice.

1743
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 5: He came good on him for making the play yesterday

1744
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 5: when we've seen him, you know, not be able to

1745
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 5: come up with in weeks past. So yeah, I think

1746
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 5: the positive was he pulled two of them in yesterday,

1747
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 5: and we've seen him drop a couple of passes we

1748
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 5: know he should have caught in earlier games. So if

1749
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 5: you can start pulling him in. Yeah, that's a big

1750
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 5: game changer, I think.

1751
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 2: And as for your choice to kick the extra point

1752
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 2: to tie it and go to overtime, as Steve said earlier,

1753
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 2: going for two is a coin flip, so is going overtime.

1754
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 2: Because you're relying on a coin flip as to whether

1755
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: or not you get the ball first. Now you're guaranteed

1756
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 2: one possession, you.

1757
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 5: Probably defer you on the coin flip there too.

1758
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 2: So I mean, and the way the Buffalo's defense was playing,

1759
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: I could understand why you'd want to make that argument.

1760
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 2: The Chargers played the Eagles three weeks ago, they kick

1761
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 2: a field goal to send it to overtime with fifteen

1762
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 2: seconds left, and they end up prevailing in overtime twenty

1763
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 2: two to nineteen in a home game against the Eagles.

1764
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 2: So you can make that argument. But I wonder there

1765
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 2: were a couple of things at play here. Coach McDermott

1766
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,799
Speaker 2: admitted that having the extra point blocked on the previous

1767
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 2: scoring drive was a factor, not the ultimate factor, but

1768
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: it was a factor in the decision. And I think

1769
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 2: the other factor that could have come into play here

1770
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 2: is Josh is playing on a less than one hundred

1771
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: percent foot do you want him playing an extra quarter

1772
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 2: of football when you can win the game there. I

1773
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 2: think I wouldn't be surprised if I don't know that

1774
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 2: that was a factor, but it wouldn't surprise me if

1775
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 2: it was.

1776
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 5: It's hard. It's hard to pass up again a play,

1777
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 5: an opportunity to put the game away with one play.

1778
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 5: It's hard to pass that up, particularly when you got

1779
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 5: the best player in the league. And jo and Sean

1780
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 5: McDermott said it after the game. He goes, I'd do

1781
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 5: it again. He goes, I put the ball in Josh's

1782
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 5: hands again.

1783
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 6: It's hard to argue.

1784
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 5: I kind of agree with him, but I do see

1785
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 5: what you're saying as well. There is the notion that's like, well,

1786
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 5: if you push it in overtime, their offense they hadn't

1787
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 5: completed a pass in the second half. I mean it

1788
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 5: was they were horrible. They were, and so now you

1789
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 5: put them into overtime.

1790
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 6: It's like, Okay, there's an argument to be made for it.

1791
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 5: I can kind of see ith. Yeah, and certainly when

1792
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 5: you missed the two point, it's like, yeah, you should

1793
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 5: have done the other thing. I get it. That's that's

1794
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 5: that's where we live.

1795
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 6: As football fans, let's go to Kevin and Hamburg next.

1796
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 6: What's up, Kevin, guys.

1797
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 10: How you doing? Thanks for taking my call. The thing

1798
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:04,759
Speaker 10: I want to bring up is impressed with our defense.

1799
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 10: The way we held him to over seven I third down,

1800
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 10: that's phenomenal. I'm not so much a worry to upset

1801
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 10: about the two point conversion, even though I didn't love it.

1802
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 10: The thing I had the biggest gripe is that we

1803
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 10: didn't go down and when we went down there and

1804
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 10: not at least try that field goal. I'm sure you're

1805
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 10: gonna hear that because you have a quarterback with a

1806
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 10: bum angle running around. You know he's not gonna run.

1807
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 10: You know, ankle is killing him. Probably that's why his

1808
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 10: pass went to Rye on the two points. He couldn't

1809
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 10: set his foot right and it was killing him. And

1810
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,560
Speaker 10: I think that's And when you playing a team that

1811
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 10: had won the Super Bowl because of the defense last

1812
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 10: year and you get nothing points, that bothered me more

1813
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 10: than the two points. If we kicked that field goal,

1814
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 10: if we missed it, what are you gonna do? But

1815
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 10: at least try it. It's not that far away. Who

1816
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 10: knows what would have happened. But with a bad ankle quarterback,

1817
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 10: I don't think I don't think he would have not

1818
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 10: made any of those being a good ankle, that's what

1819
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 10: I'm just saying, but with a bad ankle, and make

1820
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 10: sure I definitely tried field goal.

1821
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 6: You mean you mean the extra point, not the field goal, right,

1822
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 6: the field goal.

1823
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:10,799
Speaker 10: But he kept pumping.

1824
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, gotcha, I got you.

1825
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know, probably loved the two point, but no,

1826
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 10: they're not getting even when we were down there.

1827
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's only one of Kevin, that's only one

1828
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 2: of three instances where they gave up field position and

1829
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to throw the take the field goal.

1830
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, if you take any of those,

1831
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 5: you're you're better off. That's all things equal. But as

1832
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 5: we know, I mean if you if they take one

1833
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 5: of the early field goals and then get it to

1834
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 5: ten to thirteen, you know, the ripple effects of that

1835
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 5: changed what the Eagles do and changes what the Bills

1836
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 5: do and all that stuff. So you never know how

1837
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 5: it's going to turn out. But I see it. There's

1838
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 5: a lot of like we said, when you're in a

1839
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:51,759
Speaker 5: one point game, there's nine or ten or a dozen

1840
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 5: plays that if they go the other way things change.

1841
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 2: And I'll and we haven't covered this because I know

1842
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 2: the bulk of the conversation today has been the miscues

1843
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: on offense, and I understand why that kind of has

1844
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 2: carried the day. The other thing that you got to

1845
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 2: tip your hat too with respect to the defensive side

1846
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 2: of the ball, are the blitz schemes that the Bills

1847
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 2: were running at Jalen Hurts.

1848
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 6: He had absolutely no idea what was going on there.

1849
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: I mean, the way they were disguising coverage on the

1850
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 2: back end, the way they were firing blitzers from different places.

1851
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts had no idea what was coming at him

1852
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 2: in the second half. And yes, Eagles fans are happy

1853
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 2: they won the game yesterday and they have a chance

1854
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 2: at the two seed in the NFC, but they are

1855
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 2: also talking about how Jalen Hurts can't handle pressure. Jalen

1856
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 2: Hurts got exposed yesterday by the Bills blitz schemes. So

1857
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 2: part of the reason the defense was as effective as

1858
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 2: they were was because of the blitz schemes drawn up

1859
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 2: by Bobby Babbage and Sean mcdermody yesterday. Because they worked

1860
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 2: fantastically through the course of the second half, and we

1861
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 2: should not forget that because going forward. I don't know

1862
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 2: about you, guys, but I'm feeling a lot better about

1863
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 2: the defense being at least capable of holding this team

1864
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 2: in a football game because we saw it yesterday against

1865
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 2: the defending Super Bowl champions, who have one of the

1866
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 2: most talented offenses in the league. I know they've had

1867
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 2: their share of stub toe offensive performances, being held to

1868
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 2: twelve points and a goose egg in the second half,

1869
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 2: zero completions, zero completions.

1870
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:25,799
Speaker 6: Over five.

1871
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 2: And sa Kwon Barkley, the reigning offensive Player of the Year.

1872
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,719
Speaker 2: I'm kind of with a nice effort and encouraginging going forward.

1873
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 2: It was a good effort, but like we've seen, this

1874
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 2: has been an up and down year on both sides

1875
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 2: of the ball for the Bills. Offensively, they've they've shown

1876
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 2: that there is no there is no roof man. They

1877
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 2: can go, they can score fast, and they can get

1878
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 2: it done. But they've also shown the ability to shoot

1879
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: themselves on the foot and just come off the field

1880
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 2: go three and out a ton so and defensively the

1881
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 2: same thing. Their run defense has been nicked. I've given

1882
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 2: a big play after big play and then they go

1883
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 2: out and they do what they did in the second

1884
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 2: half to the World champions. You know, so it's hard

1885
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 2: to know what you're gonna get. It is hard to

1886
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:16,719
Speaker 2: know what you're gonna get, and that's inconsistency is really,

1887
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 2: I think where the concerns live for most Bills fans.

1888
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 5: What are you gonna get?

1889
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back, Our

1890
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 2: number three is gonna begin with my broadcast partner on

1891
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 2: the Bills Radio Network, Eric would gonna join us for

1892
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 2: his thoughts on yesterday's game against the Eagles. That's coming

1893
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 2: your way next to our number three here on a

1894
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 2: Monday edition of One Bill's Live, presented by Collide of Health.

1895
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:40,360
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1896
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:19,519
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Speaker 2: All Right, our number three here on a Buffalo Football

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01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 2: Monday Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and joined now

1899
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 2: by my broadcast partner on the Bills Radio Network, Radio

1900
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 2: color analyst Eric Wood also hosted the Senate on Buffalo Podcast,

1901
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1904
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1905
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Speaker 2: Chunky the soup that eats like a meal. Just had

1906
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 2: some breaking news here Eric as we bring you on

1907
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:56,600
Speaker 2: the air. Michael Badgley released from the practice squad, so

1908
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 2: no more kicking duties for him in a Bill's uniform

1909
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: Prisonsumably this means that mister Prater is ready to resume

1910
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 2: his kicking duties and it's nice to do get a

1911
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,480
Speaker 2: Week eighteen game as a warm up for the postseason.

1912
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 2: Just your thoughts on you know how the kicking game

1913
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 2: really was a factor in yesterday's loss.

1914
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 27: It was a factor and yesterday's lost and in coming

1915
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 27: into the season with you got Tyler Bass, your franchise kicker.

1916
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 27: You know it's it's been kind of a roller coaster, Rod,

1917
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 27: And good job on Matt Prader being able to study

1918
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 27: the ship for most of the season, and then you know,

1919
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,639
Speaker 27: these last couple of weeks, kicking game has been an issue.

1920
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 27: We missed the landing zone against Cleveland, we get a

1921
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 27: drift start at the forty. We missed a pat in

1922
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 27: that game which ended up being a tighter game that

1923
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 27: most assumed. And then yesterday, if you make two pats

1924
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 27: on your last two possessions, you win that football game.

1925
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 27: And so yeah, I mean that's the fact of the matter.

1926
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 27: But you know, the thing you'll say in the locker

1927
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 27: room is, you know, we shouldn't have let it come

1928
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 27: down to that.

1929
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 19: And that's fine.

1930
01:36:58,040 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 27: We should have either made the plays at the end,

1931
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,560
Speaker 27: you know, convert that to bugger version. We should have

1932
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 27: you know, had a wider margin where it doesn't play

1933
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 27: a factor. But the fact of the matter is, and

1934
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 27: I'm not just saying this because you know Steve Tasters

1935
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 27: right there, but special teams, when you have a small

1936
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 27: margin for air play a major factor in a lot

1937
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 27: of games, whether that's field positioned throughout the game, or

1938
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 27: hitting big returns whatever that may be, or in this case, uh,

1939
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 27: missing kicks.

1940
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a tough it's a tough day for the

1941
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 5: special teams. Don't matter, crowd, but yeah.

1942
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 19: No doubt.

1943
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 27: And you and I said that, and you got the

1944
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 27: Shakir long return that sets up you know, one of

1945
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:36,759
Speaker 27: their late drives.

1946
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 19: You know that's it's that's the fact of the matter

1947
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 19: right now.

1948
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's uh. And I said this earlier as well.

1949
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 5: You're in a one point game, right, You're you're in

1950
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 5: that kind it's a rock fight. Nobody's scoring twenty points.

1951
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 5: I mean they're just point. You can't score in this game, right,

1952
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 5: So when.

1953
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 2: You're in this one point game, there's like twelve or

1954
01:37:56,600 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 2: maybe even fifteen plays in this game that everything changed

1955
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 2: the four If they kick a field goal on fourth

1956
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 2: and two instead of Josh getting up pulling up short,

1957
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 2: if Josh doesn't throw the forward pass and call it

1958
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 2: have it rule a fumble, you get a field goal

1959
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,600
Speaker 2: chance there. If Josh doesn't take the sack, you're in

1960
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 2: field goal range down there. In the first half, all

1961
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 2: that stuff changing.

1962
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 5: There's there's play after play after play after play, and

1963
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 5: you're talking one point and that's kind of where you

1964
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 5: live in games like this. Certainly it's a tough loss,

1965
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 5: it's a it's a game you hate to lose. But man,

1966
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 5: that's the details. And when you get into games like this,

1967
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 5: when they're this close, that's what you're talking about.

1968
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 27: And no doubt, I mean you talk about that deep

1969
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 27: ball that Josh barely misses, the cooks down the field,

1970
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 27: which I love him taking that shot there, Hey, you

1971
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 27: got two weeks left in the season, getting ready for

1972
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 27: the playoffs. Try and get on the same pages. And

1973
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 27: he connects on the long one, long one. I think

1974
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 27: Brandon Cooks could be kicking himself today that he let

1975
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 27: himself go down to the turf on that catch. A

1976
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 27: better receiver knew he had separation. I don't think he

1977
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 27: had to leave a s feat to kind of fall

1978
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 27: back to make that catch. Now, I'll say this, you

1979
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 27: drop those last two shots in the previous two games,

1980
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 27: You're saying this ball's coming down with me. I'm not

1981
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 27: worried about the yards after the catch. Maybe I was

1982
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 27: previously where I had a couple of crucial jobs in

1983
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,560
Speaker 27: the previous two games. But you know, I love the

1984
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 27: fact that they were able to take some shots down

1985
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 27: the field. Obviously, Cooks goes over one hundred, so it

1986
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 27: looks really good. But just the fact that they're taking

1987
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 27: those shots to be able to keep teams honest to

1988
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 27: where you potentially have a deep threat. Shavers has the

1989
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 27: one hot pointed ball down the field, which was a

1990
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 27: great catch by him. He's also just a phenomenal blocker,

1991
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 27: runs routes hard to free people up. He's a guy

1992
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 27: that you love having on your squad. It's easy to

1993
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 27: understand why the coaching staff brags on him constantly when

1994
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 27: you go back and look at the tape. But yeah,

1995
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 27: the margin frayer yesterday in the rain. Likely a tough game,

1996
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 27: and all that considered, you can't make the amount of

1997
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 27: mistakes the Bills did and win the football game generally

1998
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 27: generally speaking. But you almost do it and then you

1999
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:02,639
Speaker 27: have misfire at the end on a great play design.

2000
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 27: I love the play design. We saw this last week.

2001
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 27: So that's the same throw that Josh missed to Khalil Shakir.

2002
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 27: It's the same route, maybe not the same full route

2003
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,759
Speaker 27: combination on the field. The Bills love their mesh concept.

2004
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 27: You get the guys going across the field either sitting

2005
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 27: in the open zones or rub the man to man

2006
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:22,080
Speaker 27: defenders as you go across the field. Last week against Cleveland,

2007
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 27: Josh barely overthrows Shakir as he fakes the mesh going

2008
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 27: across the field, splits out, smokes the corner going out,

2009
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 27: does the same thing on the two point conversion, and

2010
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 27: Josh Bareley misses him again. That's I would imagine seventeen

2011
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 27: and ten, and whoever else potential to be running that

2012
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,560
Speaker 27: route back out to Josh's left will be repping that

2013
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,959
Speaker 27: over and over in this next week of preparation.

2014
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 2: Flipping over the defensive side an unbelievable effort in the

2015
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 2: second half. And I know you commented on the broadcast

2016
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 2: about this, so I'm going to give you an extra

2017
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:53,879
Speaker 2: another chance.

2018
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 5: To do it here.

2019
01:40:54,920 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 2: But just the blitz scheming of Bobby Babbage and coach McDermott.

2020
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts did not know which way was up in

2021
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 2: the second half. And they're talking in Philly today about

2022
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 2: how Jalen Hurts can't handle blitzes. What did you like

2023
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 2: most about the scheming that we witnessed in the second

2024
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 2: half there by the defensive coordinator and the head coach.

2025
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 19: Yeah, and really it was throughout the game.

2026
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 27: You know, they got three scores in the first half,

2027
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 27: the touchdown off the turnover and then two other field

2028
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 27: goal drops. But at one point in the third quarter

2029
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 27: we had a forty three point five percent blitz rate,

2030
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 27: which is abnormally high. Usually we see that more towards

2031
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 27: the fourth quarter when it becomes desperation time. We were

2032
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 27: playing that aggressive Bill's defense all throughout this game. But

2033
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 27: I thought that they were creative in the guys that

2034
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 27: they were bringing on each play, they got different looks

2035
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 27: to help try and free up guys in the rush

2036
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 27: packages on obvious pass situations. I thought to me, Dorian Williams,

2037
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 27: I know he's not Michael Hoyt, but for those watching,

2038
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 27: just got to see him plant Fred Johnson the right

2039
01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 27: tackle and free up Gregorsoe coming around. To me, he's

2040
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 27: got to be that three technique on your obvious pass

2041
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 27: rush situation. I don't think you're getting enough from your

2042
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 27: interior rushers that you have the speed of the violence

2043
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 27: that he plays with up there, and then he could

2044
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 27: sit at the line of scrimmage.

2045
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 19: It still spied you could drop back in coverage.

2046
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,600
Speaker 27: To me, as the former offensive line of watching it,

2047
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 27: I'm saying, I don't want forty two at the line

2048
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 27: of scrimmage if I'm preparing for the Bills an obvious

2049
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 27: pass situation. So I thought they were creative with their

2050
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 27: blitzes all throughout the game. It kept Billy's offense unbalanced throughout,

2051
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,600
Speaker 27: and give credit to Sean McDermot and Bobby Babbage for

2052
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 27: a game where now you're without Dai Kwon Jones, you're

2053
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 27: without Jordan.

2054
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 19: Four years, lose Bernard early in the game, and they.

2055
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 27: Called a rock solid game and then obviously the players

2056
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 27: on the field got to execute.

2057
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 5: What do you think about the fact that the Bills

2058
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,640
Speaker 5: every so long and it's been an inconsistent year on

2059
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 5: both sides of the ball, right, I mean, bad first half,

2060
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 5: great second half, or vice, whatever you want to call it.

2061
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 5: What does it say about the fact that they've got

2062
01:42:57,439 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 5: that under.

2063
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 2: The hood somewhere where they can hold a team to

2064
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:04,639
Speaker 2: zero completions in the second with the World champions hold

2065
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 2: them to zero completions in the second half. They got

2066
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 2: the defending offensive player of the year holds eighty two yards.

2067
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 2: The whole team is eighty two yards rushing. I mean,

2068
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 2: what does it say about them having that under the

2069
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 2: hood and then only pulling it out like for a

2070
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 2: half a game, or you know, they just can't do

2071
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:21,600
Speaker 2: that consistently?

2072
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 5: What I mean, what do you make of that?

2073
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,560
Speaker 27: I will say this, I feel like they are on

2074
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 27: a more consistent basis, putting it together more often. I understand,

2075
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 27: you give up the opening drives score to Cleveland last

2076
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 27: week and they score twenty against you, but twenty's not

2077
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:39,600
Speaker 27: a high number in this league. And you know, you

2078
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 27: look at you know, some of the games that we've

2079
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 27: had recently in the way they've been able to keep

2080
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 27: the Bills in games or make the plays at the

2081
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 27: end of the game. I'm being more encouraged by this

2082
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 27: defense right now at this point of the season than

2083
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 27: the rest of it.

2084
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 19: And that's as we continue to get dinged up on

2085
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 19: that side of the ball.

2086
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,800
Speaker 27: I mean, don't let this this defense start to get

2087
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 27: healthy and get an Ed Oliver back, get a Dakwon

2088
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 27: Jones back for the playoffs, a healthy Jordan Poyer. I mean,

2089
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 27: we're starting to look like a unit on that side

2090
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:12,600
Speaker 27: of the ball where if we can start clicking on

2091
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 27: offense on a more consistent basis, and we're gonna be

2092
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 27: a tough out in the playoffs. And I think we're

2093
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 27: a tough out of the playoffs regardless, because this team

2094
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:26,800
Speaker 27: has absolutely no quit in it. They have an unbelievable

2095
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 27: belief at the end of the games where just get

2096
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 27: a couple stops here we go, we can make this happen. Now,

2097
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 27: you don't want to, obviously, you don't want to live

2098
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 27: like that. But this team is not going to be

2099
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 27: an easy out of the playoffs. I can guarantee you that.

2100
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 27: And I'm very encouraged by the defensive side of the

2101
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 27: football right now. And I'll say this, I understand we

2102
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 27: missed the two point version of the two point version

2103
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 27: at the end of the game.

2104
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:49,719
Speaker 19: We're all disappointed.

2105
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 27: We're all disappointed that we lost the game yesterday, second

2106
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 27: last game in high Mark, maybe the last one that

2107
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 27: the starters played the full time. I feel about the

2108
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 27: exact same way, maybe even a touch better about our

2109
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 27: chances in the playoffs after yesterday's game. I don't think

2110
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 27: that Miami's got a shot to.

2111
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 19: Beat New England.

2112
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 27: We probably weren't winning the division anyways. We're gonna be

2113
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,679
Speaker 27: the five to six or seven seed. See a performance

2114
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 27: like that for your defense, you see some downfield passing.

2115
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 27: To me, we saw some encouraging things. It remains to

2116
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 27: be can we eliminate the mistakes come crunch time become

2117
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 27: playoff time. If they could do that, I'm almost even

2118
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 27: a little bit more encouraged after this loss yesterday about

2119
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 27: this fields team than I was heading in And hopefully

2120
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 27: you have a kicker in there that you have confidence

2121
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,600
Speaker 27: in to where on third and eight Josh takes a

2122
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 27: sack because he's trying to make something happen because he

2123
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 27: might not have confidence that we're going to be able

2124
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:44,839
Speaker 27: to kick a field.

2125
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 19: Goal in that situation.

2126
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 27: I know, he takes you way out of it, and

2127
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 27: if you're going to go for it on fourth and eight,

2128
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 27: that you know, throw the ball away or take a

2129
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,599
Speaker 27: check down. But when you have a kicker you could

2130
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:58,639
Speaker 27: rely on, it changes a lot of your game planning

2131
01:45:58,680 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 27: and decision making throughout the game.

2132
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 2: Well, right, so almost the game is almost seen as

2133
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:06,640
Speaker 2: a blessing in disguise. And I kind of thought this

2134
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 2: to some degree too, and Steve and I have discussed

2135
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 2: this as well, Eric, So I'd be curious to get

2136
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 2: your take on it. Because the Bills had come into

2137
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 2: this having won what was it, four in a row.

2138
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 2: You look at teams like the Jaguars who have won

2139
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 2: seven straight, the Houston Texans who have won eight in

2140
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 2: a row, like it is hard to continually perform at

2141
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:34,680
Speaker 2: that high rate without a loss or a down performance,

2142
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 2: especially going into the playoffs. So I don't know, there's

2143
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 2: there's some weird thing there too that kind of has

2144
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 2: me optimistic. That you got a loss out of the

2145
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 2: way where things didn't go right for you and you

2146
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,760
Speaker 2: made a couple of ill advised decisions.

2147
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 6: Now you can use those and look.

2148
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,640
Speaker 2: I know Bills fans are tired of hearing Sean McDermott

2149
01:46:57,640 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 2: saying we're going to learn from this, but I think

2150
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 2: there there are some good lessons in this one point

2151
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 2: loss yesterday that serve as stark and important reminders to

2152
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 2: the players on this roster about how much the details matter.

2153
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 6: Where do you come down on that.

2154
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 27: No, I think there's a lot of truth in that,

2155
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:20,839
Speaker 27: and it's always easier to learn after a loss. Sometimes

2156
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 27: you squeak one out at the end of a game

2157
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 27: and you gloss over maybe some of the things that

2158
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:27,599
Speaker 27: got you to that point where you had to pull

2159
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 27: out a miraculous victory at the end, or had to,

2160
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 27: you know, score three straight times to win a football game.

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01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 27: Sometimes it's harder to learn of those situations because you're

2162
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 27: on the high of a win. I went into yesterday's

2163
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 27: game not saying this game doesn't matter. I was extremely

2164
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 27: excited about the game, but just understanding, in my opinion,

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01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 27: New England wasn't going to lose either of the last

2166
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 27: two games. That game yesterday against the Jets was over

2167
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 27: about two pm after a one pm kick, and so

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01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:59,640
Speaker 27: to me, I wasn't I wasn't overly concerned with the

2169
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 27: outcome of the game. Now, I did feel have a

2170
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 27: heart racing like crazy as we were starting to come

2171
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 27: back at the end of the game. And I sure

2172
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 27: would have liked it to be a prettier game offensively throughout,

2173
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 27: where you have some encouraging signs, uh moving into.

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Speaker 19: It, whether you win or lose.

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01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 27: But to me, you take a loss here, you get

2176
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 27: a little bit humbled, you get a little ticked off,

2177
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 27: You get back.

2178
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 19: To work, and you go try and make a run

2179
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 19: of this thing.

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01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, my superficial fan in me, my casual you know,

2181
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 5: lazy fan. It's Houston is gonna have to win twelve

2182
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 5: straight to get to the super Bowl. Jacksonville's gonna have

2183
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 5: to win eleven straight to get to the super Bowl.

2184
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 5: And that's at the end of the regular season. Through

2185
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 5: the wild card divisionally.

2186
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:41,839
Speaker 6: The love of average, a lot of averages.

2187
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 5: It's hard, man, and I know somebody's gonna have to

2188
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 5: be special at the end of the season and get there.

2189
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 5: But to play like that and to walk in and

2190
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:51,600
Speaker 5: on a streak like that, and I get it to

2191
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 5: you got to be playing well. And when the team

2192
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 5: is playing well, usually they do win hardness by my

2193
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 5: good luck, bad luck, karma, karma, this destiny kind of

2194
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 5: thing like that says there's no way, right, But me and.

2195
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 27: Steve, Yeah, Me and Steve sit on a blackjack table

2196
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 27: and we say, look, it can't possibly. At some point

2197
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 27: the dealer has to bust right, and the law of everage.

2198
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 27: If it's an auto shuffle six deck, you got the

2199
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 27: tham odds every time.

2200
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 19: But I see, I see your point exactly there.

2201
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 27: And you know, to me, as you look around the

2202
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 27: AFC playoff picture, when you look at who's going to

2203
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 27: be in the dance now, and we don't know if

2204
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 27: it'll be Pittsburgh or Baltimore. Aaron Rodgers obviously has more

2205
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 27: playoff experience than Josh Allen. But there's no one on

2206
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 27: the planet that would say they'd rather take Aaron Rodgers

2207
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 27: right now over Josh Allen. If you look around and

2208
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 27: there's gonna have to be a lot of quarterbacks that

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01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 27: you know, step up these young guys. Rebel Larn's got

2210
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:55,640
Speaker 27: some experience, doesn't Herbert's got some experience. Obviously Stroud has

2211
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 27: playoff experience. But to me, if bow Knicks, we saw

2212
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 27: him last year in Buffalo for his only playoff game.

2213
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 27: If any of these young dudes can show up and

2214
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 27: make a run at it, good on them, and that

2215
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 27: catapults him and their team, you know, to where this

2216
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:18,799
Speaker 27: next offseat that we're talking about, you know, Burrow, Mahomes,

2217
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 27: Allen and maybe a strike day. Maybe it's Doug Nicks,

2218
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 27: maybe it's usin Herbert, we'll see. But as you look around,

2219
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 27: I'm taking Josh Allen all day in these situations.

2220
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's spin it forward Eric to Sunday four

2221
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 2: twenty five. Obviously there is playoff seating to be had

2222
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,600
Speaker 2: with a victory, granted you need some help to achieve that.

2223
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 6: How do you play it roster wise? Is everybody that's

2224
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 6: important sitting down? Is it just Josh?

2225
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 2: Do you let James Cook go for the rushing title?

2226
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 2: How are you handling week eighteen?

2227
01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 27: If it's my decision, you give Josh start and then

2228
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:04,560
Speaker 27: you set them down. You get James Cook out of

2229
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 27: there as quick as you can. Probably Bosu Rousseau, Benford

2230
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 27: Obviously you can't sit everybody, maybe call Bishop on the

2231
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 27: back end of the defense, just where the rosters are.

2232
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,040
Speaker 27: You can only sit so many guys. But to me,

2233
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 27: you know, whether it's Dion Dawkins, you gotta sit a

2234
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 27: number of guys here to say, I'm gonna put these

2235
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 27: guys in a bubble for this game, for this week,

2236
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:33,560
Speaker 27: for these next you know, thirteen fourteen days, as we

2237
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 27: prepare for this playoff game, I'm putting them in a bubble.

2238
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:39,440
Speaker 27: I'm not saying the rest of these guys are expendable,

2239
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 27: but some guys have to play in this game. And

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Speaker 27: then you go out and try and fight for a

2241
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 27: win against a Jets team that is awful right now.

2242
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 27: And heck, if it's Brady Cook versus Mitch Trovisky, I

2243
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:54,759
Speaker 27: don't know that they have the edge over our backup quarterback.

2244
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 27: So I say all that, you go out and fight

2245
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 27: to get the win, but you put some of these

2246
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 27: guys in a bubble. You know, Josh goes to the

2247
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 27: X ray room again after the game is reported, and

2248
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 27: to me, you know, he's he's a warrior out there,

2249
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:09,600
Speaker 27: but you do not put him in harves Lay. Let

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01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 27: him keep that star streak alive. Take something with Trubisky.

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01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 27: If somewhere it happened to Trubisky, you put Josh in

2252
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 27: the game, and it's quick game in handoffs. But to me,

2253
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 27: getting to the dance healthy, whether it's the five, six

2254
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 27: or seven seed, getting to the dance healthy is.

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Speaker 19: Objective number one right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're playing you know, the New York Jets,

2257
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:35,759
Speaker 5: whose coach questioned their effort last week against the Patriots,

2258
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 5: who beat him by thirty two. I believe they've scored.

2259
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:44,760
Speaker 5: They haven't scored more than fourteen points in five of

2260
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 5: their last seven games. They've struggled to get in the

2261
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 5: end zone. So you kind of feel like, I mean,

2262
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:54,680
Speaker 5: if you're gonna go, if you needed this win to win,

2263
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna get it. Right. They don't really need they're

2264
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 5: in the playoffs. Like you said, the five, six or

2265
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 5: seven seed. You still got a good team, a good matchup.

2266
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 5: This is a game where and I know the Bills

2267
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 5: have got this. You know they play down sometimes to

2268
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 5: whoever they're playing, but man, oh man, this is I mean,

2269
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:17,719
Speaker 5: this is Josh sees the field for one play, Trubisky

2270
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 5: gets some tape. Vandermark and Alec Anderson are back in

2271
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 5: the game like they were, uh for the I think

2272
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh game, you know all, I mean even I

2273
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 5: mean Dion Walker doesn't see the field in this game

2274
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 5: for me, right, I mean, he's playing too good. So

2275
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 5: I'm I'm kind of with you. There's only so much

2276
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 5: you can do with a fifty three man roster. There's

2277
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:41,599
Speaker 5: only so many guys you can rest. But man, there's

2278
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 5: some guys who are healthy scratches in this game that

2279
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 5: that would normally never get one. You just keep doing it.

2280
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:51,760
Speaker 27: Yeah, and then yeah, and I'll say, you want to

2281
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 27: see some effort out. Some guys watch a lot too.

2282
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 27: Get a bunch of reps this week, and watch how

2283
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 27: hard he plays, assuming.

2284
01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 19: He's up for this week.

2285
01:53:58,320 --> 01:53:59,720
Speaker 5: It's a big tatch some of these ke.

2286
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 27: Own backup defenders, yep, Keon Coleman. You know, some of

2287
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:07,760
Speaker 27: these young secondary players. Incredible opportunity for them to go

2288
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 27: out and showcase themselves and try and solidify a roster

2289
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 27: spot here moving forward potentially somewhere else. But yeah, efer

2290
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 27: won't be an issue this week. It's gonna be nostalgic

2291
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 27: this week. It's you know, you guys have probably even

2292
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 27: more memories than I do in that stadium. But it's

2293
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:28,759
Speaker 27: gonna be special. I've politicked for those red helmets, blue jerseys,

2294
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 27: white pants for years. We finally got it done, and

2295
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 27: it'll be fun to see those out there, I'm sure

2296
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 27: for you and all your guys see that'll be fine.

2297
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 27: We're gonna do a deal at halftime with a bunch

2298
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 27: of the former legends. I'll be emcing that, so I'll

2299
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 27: try and keep my voice. I'll stay away from a

2300
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 27: karaoke microphone this week to make sure I can em

2301
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 27: see that one and call the game. But I'm really

2302
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 27: looking forward to kind of the nostalgia of this. And

2303
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 27: then I will say this when we keep talking about

2304
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 27: it doesn't matter five, six or seven. You're in the dance,

2305
01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:00,040
Speaker 27: stay healthy, if you can win, get a lit a

2306
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 27: little bit of health. If you get the Father of

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01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 27: the sixtyed. There is a potential that you could then

2308
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 27: host another game in high Mark, so there is value

2309
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:09,520
Speaker 27: in that.

2310
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 2: Eric, thanks for the time as always, have a happy

2311
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 2: new year and we'll see you in twenty twenty six.

2312
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:17,160
Speaker 6: This weekend sounds good.

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01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 19: Thanks guys, Happy New Year.

2314
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 23: All right.

2315
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 2: That's Eric Wood joining us as he does every week,

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01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 2: and his appearance is brought to you by Chunky the

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01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 2: Soup that eats like a meal. Will take a break here,

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01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 2: but get back to your phone. Calls at eight o

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01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 2: three oh five fifty on a Buffalo Football Monday. Here

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01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live, presented by co Lot of Health.

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01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. You Meet check In presented by

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01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:50,800
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2324
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 2: And while Josh Allen was very self critical of his performance,

2325
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 2: he still had a pretty productive day. Twenty three of

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01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 2: thirty five for two hundred and sixty two yards, did

2327
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 2: not throw a touchdown, did not throw an interception, passer

2328
01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 2: rating of eighty eight, had twenty seven rushing yards and

2329
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 2: two rushing touchdowns. He also reached three hundred career touchdowns

2330
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 2: faster than any player in NFL history on his twenty

2331
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 2: ninth birthday. Previously, no one had ever reached their three

2332
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 2: hundredth career touchdown before their thirty first birthday. He's two

2333
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 2: years ahead of the next fastest person, and he did

2334
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 2: it in the fewest games in NFL history one hundred

2335
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 2: twenty seven. Previously, the fastest to three hundred was Aaron

2336
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 2: Rodgers in one hundred and thirty four career games. So

2337
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 2: it's like we say all the time, nobody scores touchdowns

2338
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 2: like Josh Allen.

2339
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:51,800
Speaker 6: Let's get back to the phone calls and we go

2340
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 6: to Ken in Buffalo next. What's up Ken?

2341
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 18: Hey, good afternoon fellows.

2342
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 20: How you doing?

2343
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 18: Not the best for a monday. You know, this was

2344
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 18: a very difficult loss to digest, and it's just out

2345
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 18: the gate. I just want to, you know, kind of

2346
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 18: address the pass slash fumble concept or the discussion point,

2347
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 18: and it will soundly doundant, but I concur it was

2348
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 18: definitely a pass.

2349
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 16: It was a bad call.

2350
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 18: Even some national media writers have called it an ingredients call.

2351
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 18: The threshold for a pass in that situation is the

2352
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 18: question as to whether the quarterback's hand is going forward.

2353
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 18: If the hand is going backwards and he lose it,

2354
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 18: that's the fumble. If he's bringing the ball to his

2355
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 18: body and he loses it, that's the fumble. Off his

2356
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 18: hand is going forward, it's a forward pass. Hence the

2357
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 18: notion forward pass. I thought it was a very bad call,

2358
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 18: But that being said, I don't think Josh ever recovered

2359
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 18: from that, to be quite candid, which it was a

2360
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 18: big play wind up deciding the game. And for whatever reason,

2361
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 18: it appears as though when he's getting a lot of

2362
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 18: hits I saw this against Houston a little bit against

2363
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 18: New England, it seems as though he's not processing things

2364
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 18: as well as a consequence. And there was so many

2365
01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:05,280
Speaker 18: missed opportunities after that play. On the fumbled in particular,

2366
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 18: he hadn't even taken any of his but he missed

2367
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 18: Jackson Hall with a play action fake. He rolled out

2368
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 18: Haws had to be the first read the primary re

2369
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 18: and rather than throwing him the ball, he held it

2370
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 18: and that's when the disaster occurred. Then later, of course,

2371
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 18: on that fourth down sequence from the three yard line,

2372
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 18: when he rolls out to the right, he doesn't look

2373
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 18: at Cooks. Cooks is like right near the pyelone and

2374
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 18: Josh doesn't even see him. I thought Cooks could have

2375
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 18: also called Josh's attention to himself and said his hands

2376
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 18: are by his side. So those were missed opportunities. And

2377
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 18: then of course we talked about the disastrous scenario where

2378
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 18: he took the sack. But it's just those sort of

2379
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 18: plays where it seems as though he's playing more hero

2380
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:45,320
Speaker 18: mode hero Ball rather than that Superman mode on which

2381
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:46,960
Speaker 18: he's you know, Dawn in the Cape and he's making

2382
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:48,800
Speaker 18: these super plays. So I just thought that was a

2383
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 18: very unfortunate commentary. And as relates to the fourth and

2384
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 18: two decision, apart me the decision to go for the

2385
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 18: two point conversion, I agree with the decision. It was

2386
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 18: a good play, was a bad throw, and so I

2387
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:05,160
Speaker 18: just like to see what happens going forward. Uh, the

2388
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 18: Eagles deserve credity had a really nice scheme. They didn't

2389
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 18: allow Josh to run while those those those interior tackles

2390
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:12,880
Speaker 18: got off the blocks whenever he took off the run. So,

2391
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:14,760
Speaker 18: you know, hats off to them. But going forward, I'll

2392
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:17,320
Speaker 18: be interested in you're taking terms of what we should

2393
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 18: look forward to going forward in light of what should

2394
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 18: be learned from these important lessons from this last loss.

2395
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 18: Sadly enough, we should have been able to close out

2396
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:28,240
Speaker 18: Highmark with one of the biggest UH celebratory wins ever,

2397
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 18: but that didn't happen. So our pause for the calls

2398
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:32,880
Speaker 18: and you'll let you jump in time. Unless there's something

2399
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:34,600
Speaker 18: in particular I could add.

2400
01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:36,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure thanks for the call.

2401
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:38,800
Speaker 5: I mean, I agree a lot of We'll obviously agree

2402
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 5: with a lot what you said from what I've said

2403
01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:43,760
Speaker 5: already in the show, But you're right. The it was

2404
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 5: a bad throw by Josh on the two point. He

2405
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 5: owned it, he knew it, and you know all of

2406
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 5: us did. I'm uh. It was a great call, play

2407
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 5: call by Brady, and there were some missed opportunities. There

2408
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 5: always are in every football game. I think most of

2409
01:59:58,920 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 5: us are aware or at least believe that sometimes Josh

2410
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:06,880
Speaker 5: passes up those easy throws thinking he's gonna get a

2411
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:08,840
Speaker 5: bigger chunk. And we see it a lot with Josh,

2412
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:11,040
Speaker 5: and a lot of times it works because if it

2413
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,360
Speaker 5: if he passes up the easy throw trying to get

2414
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:17,120
Speaker 5: a bigger chunk, he's so confident. He said, well, if

2415
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 5: I come back to the short one and it's not there, still,

2416
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 5: I'll just run it and it turns into a positive

2417
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 5: play anyway. So he's got that extra thing under his

2418
02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:28,520
Speaker 5: belt that a lot of quarterbacks don't have. And you know,

2419
02:00:28,680 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 5: for that, I think I'm willing to trade that off.

2420
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:36,520
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm kind of I'm with you on a

2421
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:40,880
Speaker 5: lot of that, Ken, You're right too. The defensive scheme

2422
02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 5: of the Eagles was spot on. And I'll say this,

2423
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 5: I'll say it again. One of the things that we

2424
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:48,000
Speaker 5: that the Eagles were able to take away from the

2425
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 5: Bills in the first half, in particular, was Josh's inability

2426
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:54,120
Speaker 5: to get out of the grasp of the interior defensive

2427
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:55,960
Speaker 5: lineman to break out of the pocket and make an

2428
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:58,200
Speaker 5: extra play house step up. There was no place to

2429
02:00:58,240 --> 02:00:59,880
Speaker 5: step up. And also when he did try to break,

2430
02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 5: he broke out a little too late. They got a

2431
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:04,720
Speaker 5: hand on him and he couldn't break their grip. Usually

2432
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:09,040
Speaker 5: we see Josh extend plays, and there was a handful,

2433
02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:11,960
Speaker 5: maybe less than a handful of plays in the first

2434
02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:17,040
Speaker 5: half where he took the sack because he couldn't get

2435
02:01:17,120 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 5: out of the tackle, and we usually see him break

2436
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:23,240
Speaker 5: those tackles. It didn't happen against the Eagles, and kudos

2437
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 5: to them for being able to keep a lid on that.

2438
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think as far as what we should

2439
02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:30,760
Speaker 2: look for going forward, which I know is a question

2440
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:36,840
Speaker 2: you asked Ken, I think this game will serve as

2441
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:41,760
Speaker 2: an effective reinforcer to Josh to play within the structure

2442
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:45,080
Speaker 2: of the call and take what the defense gives him.

2443
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:48,280
Speaker 2: He strayed from that in this game. It led to

2444
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:53,240
Speaker 2: some poor decisions, some catastrophic taking points off the board,

2445
02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:57,080
Speaker 2: and I think when he watches the film, he'll be

2446
02:01:57,480 --> 02:02:00,840
Speaker 2: it'll be reinforced to him in a big way that

2447
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:03,480
Speaker 2: if he does that in the playoffs, there's a very

2448
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 2: good chance that the team will be going home early.

2449
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 2: And so I think, like we heard Eric would say

2450
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:13,400
Speaker 2: in the previous segment, you sometimes learn more from a

2451
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:17,000
Speaker 2: loss than you do in a narrow win, because you

2452
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:19,080
Speaker 2: loss over some of the things that didn't go right

2453
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 2: because you won the football game. This time he came

2454
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 2: up short, and so some of those hard lessons are

2455
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:28,480
Speaker 2: taken more to heart and applied in your future play.

2456
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:31,560
Speaker 2: And I think that's what we have to look forward

2457
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:34,120
Speaker 2: to here, because I don't think Josh is going to

2458
02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 2: go into that hero mode. I think he's going to

2459
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:39,200
Speaker 2: be more apt to take what defense is give him

2460
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:40,480
Speaker 2: because he's going to be going against some of the

2461
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 2: best defenses this league has to dish out come the playoffs.

2462
02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:49,360
Speaker 2: So hopefully this reminder, which is very much in the

2463
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:52,760
Speaker 2: immediate rear view mirror, is going to be easier to

2464
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:55,520
Speaker 2: remember than maybe some of the lessons he learned in

2465
02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:59,760
Speaker 2: their last loss at Miami five weeks ago. So there

2466
02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:03,640
Speaker 2: are are positives that we can look forward to going

2467
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:05,800
Speaker 2: forward because I think he and along with a lot

2468
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 2: of the other players recognize the consequences of some of

2469
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:13,360
Speaker 2: the details of this game that weren't executed well, weren't

2470
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:16,960
Speaker 2: attacked with a good decision making process, and it cost

2471
02:03:17,080 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 2: them the game. So that's the learning lesson from this

2472
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:23,640
Speaker 2: that they tear into the postseason with them when it

2473
02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 2: gets started in a couple of weeks.

2474
02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:27,360
Speaker 6: Let's go to Wendell in Buffalo next. What's up, Wendell?

2475
02:03:28,920 --> 02:03:29,880
Speaker 9: Hi, how's it going?

2476
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:30,600
Speaker 6: Solo is good?

2477
02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 16: Thanks for taking my call.

2478
02:03:33,160 --> 02:03:33,280
Speaker 8: Uh.

2479
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:37,200
Speaker 16: Basically, we went toe to toe with the you know,

2480
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 16: previous you know, Super Bowl winner, and you know, we

2481
02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:44,160
Speaker 16: we fell a little short and stuff, and there was

2482
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:47,840
Speaker 16: various other you know, things that happened during the game

2483
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:50,440
Speaker 16: and stuff that they could have went our way. So

2484
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:54,440
Speaker 16: I'm positive about that. Also, I'd like to see them

2485
02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 16: sit as many people as possible in the next game

2486
02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:03,000
Speaker 16: and gear for the playoffs, and wouldn't it be you know,

2487
02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:08,160
Speaker 16: you know, payback time and stuff that says, you know,

2488
02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:11,440
Speaker 16: catch the Eagles and stuff in the super Bowl and

2489
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:12,000
Speaker 16: beat them.

2490
02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a long way down the line. It's a

2491
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:17,760
Speaker 2: nice Hollywood script if you want to write it, Wendell.

2492
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:21,720
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't care who they play. As

2493
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 2: long as they get there, that would be great. Far

2494
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:26,800
Speaker 2: be it from me to pick and choose who they

2495
02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 2: get to play in the Super Bowl. I'd just like

2496
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:32,720
Speaker 2: to see them get there. To me, that's the priority.

2497
02:04:34,120 --> 02:04:36,440
Speaker 2: Save the Hollywood scripts for everything else. Just get there

2498
02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:38,640
Speaker 2: and win the dang thing. I don't care if it's

2499
02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:41,760
Speaker 2: against the fourteen Holy Helpers. Just just get there and

2500
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:44,400
Speaker 2: beat them, right, you know. Yeah, that's that's where I'm at.

2501
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:49,720
Speaker 5: Yeah. Also, i'd like to know, you know, what people's

2502
02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:52,440
Speaker 5: feelings when you got to kind of transpose what happened

2503
02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:55,880
Speaker 5: in that game yesterday to how people were feeling going

2504
02:04:55,960 --> 02:04:59,120
Speaker 5: into it. The Bills were without a bunch of pieces

2505
02:04:59,160 --> 02:05:01,760
Speaker 5: on defense, and run defense has never been has been

2506
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 5: suspect all season. Saquon Barkley's coming in, you know, Jalen Hurts,

2507
02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:11,840
Speaker 5: AJ Brown, you thought, h and you know the defensive

2508
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:16,720
Speaker 5: front of the Eagles was getting Jalen Carter back. I

2509
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:18,280
Speaker 5: mean you felt like, wow, this is gonna be a

2510
02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 5: real test for him and they You're right. It was

2511
02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:22,640
Speaker 5: a very close, hard fought game. The Bills were held

2512
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:25,040
Speaker 5: scores for three and a half quarters. I mean, goodness, gracious,

2513
02:05:25,720 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 5: it didn't look good for a long time.

2514
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:29,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, the only other time that happened was down to Miami.

2515
02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:32,040
Speaker 5: Right, they bounce back and have a chance to win

2516
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:37,000
Speaker 5: it at the end, particularly with the defensive performance. I

2517
02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:40,240
Speaker 5: think there's a lot of reasons to have some positives

2518
02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:44,080
Speaker 5: coming out of this. Certainly, the Eagles are the reigning

2519
02:05:44,120 --> 02:05:48,160
Speaker 5: world champions. I don't know if they would tell you

2520
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:52,240
Speaker 5: they played their best football game yesterday in Buffalo in

2521
02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:56,640
Speaker 5: those conditions, but the Bills measured up with them in

2522
02:05:56,760 --> 02:06:01,720
Speaker 5: those conditions and at home yesterday. Yeah, it was a

2523
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 5: really good game. It's a very competitive game, and the

2524
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:07,560
Speaker 5: Bills had a lot of opportunities that they blew. So

2525
02:06:07,960 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 5: you got to feel good about the way those teams

2526
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:11,480
Speaker 5: stack up against each other.

2527
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:15,440
Speaker 2: Especially when it's your all world quarterback that came up

2528
02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:19,160
Speaker 2: short on four particular decisions that teh points off the

2529
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:21,440
Speaker 2: board because you're not expecting him to play that way

2530
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:24,120
Speaker 2: the next time or the next time after that, which

2531
02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:25,800
Speaker 2: is why Sean McDermott said at the end of the

2532
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:28,640
Speaker 2: game ninety nine times out of one hundred, guy's gonna

2533
02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:30,400
Speaker 2: make the play and he would go for two again

2534
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:32,919
Speaker 2: with Josh in that situation because it's number seventeen.

2535
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:36,720
Speaker 6: That's why. So you're expecting better going forward.

2536
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:39,840
Speaker 2: So have your miscues now near the end of the

2537
02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:41,760
Speaker 2: regular season where it's not winn or go home.

2538
02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:43,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, and even I mean you can feel it, even

2539
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:46,680
Speaker 5: our calls today and then the rhetoric after the game

2540
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 5: and the social media and the postgame show. People just

2541
02:06:51,800 --> 02:06:56,800
Speaker 5: are not gutted after this loss. Certainly it didn't crush

2542
02:06:56,840 --> 02:07:01,320
Speaker 5: their playoff chances because the Bills are already clinched. You

2543
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:04,320
Speaker 5: just feel like, you know, it's a tough loss to take,

2544
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:10,760
Speaker 5: had a chance to win it. Who's next kind of attitude? Right, So, yeah,

2545
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:12,720
Speaker 5: there are some positives. Come. That was a good football

2546
02:07:12,760 --> 02:07:15,080
Speaker 5: team they played yesterday, A really good football team.

2547
02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 6: Maybe the most talented roster in the league.

2548
02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:19,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, the roster on that side of the ball was

2549
02:07:20,240 --> 02:07:25,000
Speaker 5: it is outstanding. He stood toe to toe with him,

2550
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:28,440
Speaker 5: played pretty well and had a chance. So yeah, you're bummed.

2551
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:30,920
Speaker 6: Let's go to Bob in Lancaster next. What's up Bob?

2552
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:36,839
Speaker 23: Hey, guys, Thanks taking my call, sitting here recovering from COVID,

2553
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:38,920
Speaker 23: trying to get ready to go to the Jet game

2554
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:44,600
Speaker 23: next Sunday. And I got to see that so called

2555
02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 23: fumble many many times in slow motion, and there's something

2556
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:50,760
Speaker 23: that occurred to me watching it that I don't think

2557
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:54,000
Speaker 23: anybody's talked about it all. You know, Josh got spun

2558
02:07:54,080 --> 02:07:58,320
Speaker 23: around and stumbled and why did he spin around? He

2559
02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 23: got helmet to helmet is he got he got caught

2560
02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:04,800
Speaker 23: by a helmet and it spun him around and he

2561
02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:08,760
Speaker 23: almost he almost stumbled down, and nothing was cold about that.

2562
02:08:09,520 --> 02:08:11,800
Speaker 23: And I wonder if you guys saw that or think

2563
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:13,800
Speaker 23: that should have been something that they should have caught

2564
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 23: in the process.

2565
02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:19,480
Speaker 5: He's I think he's considered a runner out there outside

2566
02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:22,160
Speaker 5: of the rocket, So you know, all that's off, and

2567
02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:24,880
Speaker 5: plus the guy really and we're watching the replay now,

2568
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 5: hit kind of hit his shoulder pad more than it

2569
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:31,520
Speaker 5: did the Philadelphia Eagles player j Philip. Yeah, Jalen Philip,

2570
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:32,480
Speaker 5: It is okay.

2571
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:35,640
Speaker 23: And then the other thing I wanted to say is

2572
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:40,680
Speaker 23: that I understand that you know, everybody's playing hard, but

2573
02:08:41,120 --> 02:08:43,520
Speaker 23: the guys who are the real pros and this happens

2574
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 23: in opportune times seemed to garnish penalties, especially on offense

2575
02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:54,240
Speaker 23: that negate plays that just can't happen this late in

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Speaker 23: the season. If we're gonna, you know, go far in

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Speaker 23: the playoffs, they just can't make the kind of offensive

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02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:07,280
Speaker 23: errors that take place back.

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Speaker 6: Especially secution errors. Are you talking about penalties, I'm.

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Speaker 23: Talking about penalties there. There was one particular one in

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Speaker 23: that game I think pulled back a pretty good gain.

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Speaker 23: I know, I know, but but a guy with that

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02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:30,640
Speaker 23: kind of capability knows he's going to get call for that,

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02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 23: and it's it's a crime that something like that has

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02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:36,280
Speaker 23: to happen. I think we have to really be cognizant

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Speaker 23: of that defense. By the way, I think they played

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02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:43,080
Speaker 23: really really well, and that is majorly encouraging for moving

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02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:45,800
Speaker 23: forward because they were kind of a soft spot and

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Speaker 23: and uh, you know, the offense will pick itself up.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 23: Josh is hurt, no question about it.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 23: And the only thing that's going to be disappointing for

2594
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Speaker 23: me is if you remember me from previous calls, I

2595
02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:00,800
Speaker 23: was a Jet fan for many, many years before I

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02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:03,280
Speaker 23: moved up to Buffalo, and I was looking forward to

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02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:07,120
Speaker 23: seeing Josh demolish then next weekend and I'm gonna have

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02:10:07,240 --> 02:10:09,400
Speaker 23: to sit back and just kind of let that play

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Speaker 23: itself out. Thanks for taking the call, and you know,

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Speaker 23: I'll go bills and look forward to see him in

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Speaker 23: the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you feel better. Yeah. The penalties, as much as

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02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 5: we're talking about what happened in the officials and all that,

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02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 5: there's only four penalties for Buffalo for forty yards and

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02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:29,920
Speaker 5: and the Philly had three for thirty six sou and

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02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:31,920
Speaker 5: you know the penalty. The one penalty that got me

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02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:34,840
Speaker 5: was the tripping. The miss tripping call they called, uh

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02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:38,920
Speaker 5: fair catch interference on Sam Franklin. I thought that was

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02:10:40,040 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 5: then that was a good call. Although he hit the guy,

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Speaker 5: no question. You can argue all day about whether he

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02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:48,960
Speaker 5: got tripped or whatever. So but they called that that

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02:10:49,120 --> 02:10:52,160
Speaker 5: was a fifteen yard or and that was that. So

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02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:58,040
Speaker 5: that was uh. In the holding call on Dion, that's

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Speaker 5: Those are the only two I can really think of

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02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:04,760
Speaker 5: that were problems. But there you have it. You're right though,

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02:11:05,320 --> 02:11:08,560
Speaker 5: penalties can kill you at inner opportune moments, and offensive

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02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:10,120
Speaker 5: penalties that take big plays off.

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Speaker 6: The board crush you gotta take a break here.

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Speaker 2: One segment to go here on a Monday edition at

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back here on One Bills Live Monday edition. After the

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Speaker 2: Bills fall thirteen to twelve to the defending Super Bowl champion,

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02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:44,920
Speaker 2: heels why does he get a few thoughts off the

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Speaker 6: The Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: Where Mook says, the defense gives us a chance against

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02:11:53,800 --> 02:11:57,400
Speaker 2: anyone in the playoffs. I'm highly confident after last night,

2629
02:11:58,040 --> 02:12:01,320
Speaker 2: West Michigan billsbacker says Tltimately, I feel like going for

2630
02:12:01,400 --> 02:12:05,080
Speaker 2: two was the right choice. The defense played great, Hurtz

2631
02:12:05,200 --> 02:12:08,280
Speaker 2: was unable to do a thing. Let Ray Davis kick

2632
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:11,400
Speaker 2: silver lining. It will be good to let Josh sit

2633
02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:12,320
Speaker 2: against the Jets.

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Speaker 5: Go Bills.

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02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:18,120
Speaker 2: Kenneth says, Brandon Cooks is our wide receiver. One defense

2636
02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:22,160
Speaker 2: has gotten so much better. Anakin says, if our defense

2637
02:12:22,240 --> 02:12:24,360
Speaker 2: can hold strong as they have late in the season,

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02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:27,400
Speaker 2: we've got a shot. There's fifty reasons why not, but

2639
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:31,000
Speaker 2: we've located a deep ball. Get Kinkaid back then both

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02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:34,120
Speaker 2: are massive best rushing attack in the league. Rest these

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02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:37,280
Speaker 2: next twelve days or so and get healthy, get QB

2642
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:42,280
Speaker 2: one back right, and ride then. Jesse says that Buffalo

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02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:45,320
Speaker 2: should have won the game. Number one is his or

2644
02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:47,720
Speaker 2: her biggest takeaway. Number two. They can compete with the

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02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:52,200
Speaker 2: better teams and win. Isaac says seventeen is just pressing

2646
02:12:52,240 --> 02:12:54,800
Speaker 2: too much. He missed some easy layups yesterday. I'm glad

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02:12:54,800 --> 02:12:56,800
Speaker 2: he'll get the week off to reset. Had to buy

2648
02:12:56,920 --> 02:12:59,800
Speaker 2: way too early this season. All those comebacks this month

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02:13:00,160 --> 02:13:00,960
Speaker 2: have been draining.

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Speaker 6: It's a good point. I mean, all those comeback wins

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02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:07,120
Speaker 6: they've had to make. It does wear on him.

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02:13:07,920 --> 02:13:10,600
Speaker 2: Why Higgins Josh needs to throw the ball away against

2653
02:13:10,640 --> 02:13:14,240
Speaker 2: being sacked and play through questionable calls after his Misthrow,

2654
02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 2: that's the most animated I've seen him this season. Hope

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02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:19,360
Speaker 2: that sparked a fire in him that will get us

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Speaker 2: through the playoffs. Believer says, feeling really optimistic after that one.

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Speaker 2: Loved the two point try. Being able to rest guys

2658
02:13:25,960 --> 02:13:28,680
Speaker 2: next week is huge. Best outcome for the bigger picture.

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02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:32,640
Speaker 2: Greg easily could have won with authority and few unfortunate

2660
02:13:32,720 --> 02:13:36,400
Speaker 2: mishaps between the fumble, missed extra point, Josh running instead

2661
02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:38,800
Speaker 2: of seeing Cooks and the two point fail. The only

2662
02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:42,480
Speaker 2: worry I have is physical defensive lines thump our offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Their head coach has a nasty mouth. Someone's got to

2664
02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:50,800
Speaker 2: explain to me why Nick Sirianni feels it necessary to

2665
02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:54,240
Speaker 2: mouth off after his team narrowly escapes with a one

2666
02:13:54,280 --> 02:13:58,800
Speaker 2: point victory and the offensive system that is his posts

2667
02:13:58,840 --> 02:14:00,760
Speaker 2: a goose egg in the second hand, like why do

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02:14:00,800 --> 02:14:01,920
Speaker 2: you get you won the game?

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Speaker 5: Like, isn't that enough? Yeah, he didn't do it his

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02:14:04,200 --> 02:14:05,880
Speaker 5: postgame come, he did it coming up the tunnel. That

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Speaker 5: was on social media. He got doing that, So.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Max says.

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Speaker 2: Lack of supporting cast all year has Josh Allen feeling

2674
02:14:14,160 --> 02:14:15,560
Speaker 2: like he has no choice but to do it all

2675
02:14:15,640 --> 02:14:18,800
Speaker 2: no matter what, causing tunnel vision and overlooking obvious open throws.

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Speaker 2: Need a new kicker. Defense looking great going into the playoffs. Well,

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02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:26,000
Speaker 2: they already released Michael Badgeley from the practice squad an

2678
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:29,240
Speaker 2: hour ago, so hopefully that means Matt Prater is healthy enough.

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Speaker 2: Coach mcdermodal addressed the media at four We're back tomorrow

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Speaker 2: at one, got Mitch Morse and dan Orlowski coming your

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02:14:35,560 --> 02:14:37,280
Speaker 2: way on a Tuesday edition and one Bills live.

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Speaker 6: We'll see at one