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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. I'm welcome to Steffon

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Speaker 1: Never told you a protection of iHeartRadio, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if you are

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Speaker 1: choosing to drink whatever, you're choosing to do it, to

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Speaker 1: do it, to do it, do it. It's because I've

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Speaker 1: been quoting the infra palatine a lot, which I'm going

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Speaker 1: to talk about here. Do responsively, do safely, do healthily.

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Speaker 1: Are you sipping on anything, Samantha.

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Speaker 2: I am. You know, I decided I'm going to throw

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Speaker 2: it back to like when I was a kid, when

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Speaker 2: I would mix fruit juices with like sprite. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: used to love doing that when I was younger. And

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Speaker 2: so we bought some tangerine juice from a Trader Joe's

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Speaker 2: and I like it, but it's a little too thick thick,

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Speaker 2: so I have ginger realm, so I'm mixed it to

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Speaker 2: I'm look, this is a delight. Carbonat drinks must do this.

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Speaker 2: So yes, I made myself a kid mockdel.

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Speaker 1: Well that's I mean, that sounds lovely. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it'suld be a kid mocktail. Could be like a nice

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Speaker 1: drink you enjoy.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with that, What about you?

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Speaker 1: I have my galactic gin. Oh yeah, my sparkly purple

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Speaker 1: blue gin that changes colors. Because today we're doing a

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Speaker 1: very self indulgent episode. We're getting towards the end of

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Speaker 1: the air and so I just wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: some Star Wars things that I've experienced lately. A gift

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Speaker 1: for me, perhaps no one else, but for me, A gift, yes,

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Speaker 1: because I talked about in the last wrap up of

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Speaker 1: the holiday special, the Star Wars Holiday Special, that the

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Speaker 1: documentary was coming out about how it got made, and

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Speaker 1: it had come out, and it was a whole thing

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Speaker 1: about how I was gonna watch it because it was

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Speaker 1: surprisingly popular perhaps and the crash the site and then

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get a hold of it. But I got

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Speaker 1: it all worked out.

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Speaker 2: I still love my twelve thirty am text about it

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was so excited. I didn't even watch it

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Speaker 2: I'm glad it was made, party new it was.

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Speaker 1: So I did watch it the next day with a

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Speaker 1: friend of mine. And it's called a disturbance in the Forest.

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Speaker 1: Here is the quote the summary. In nineteen seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: CBS aired the Star Wars holiday special the week before

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving to an audience of thirteen million people. Considered one

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Speaker 1: of the worst shows in television history, it only aired

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Speaker 1: once George Lucas tried to bury it and an infamous

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Speaker 1: camplagon was born. This documentary unravels the mysteries behind the

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Speaker 1: most bizarre spinoff of all time, although they pointed out

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Speaker 1: in there that there was actually what they called a

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Speaker 1: worse one, which I have on my watch list to

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Speaker 2: Oh you did find it. You're like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: if you have family, you'll find it.

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Speaker 1: And I found it. I definitely found it. Okay, So yes,

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Speaker 1: like some strange fever dream you experienced literally yes, And

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Speaker 1: so it became a joke of like did you see it?

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Speaker 1: Are you the real Star Wars fan? This was also

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Speaker 1: I'll go into that. But a lot of kids didn't

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Speaker 1: they were I feel like weird. Al Yanka Vickers in it,

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Speaker 1: Star Wars. I do. There are some random facts I learned.

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Speaker 1: Share was almost in it.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked, but yes, that makes sense to me.

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Speaker 2: What that didn't make sense to me? Okay, how dare you.

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Speaker 1: All? The part that's where he's the old grandfather is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but that's why I say it, how dare you?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. It's also another thing I learned. So

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Speaker 1: comical amounts. I always laugh when I see him in

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Speaker 1: They were great at variety shows though, like that was

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a lot of good fun facts out

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Speaker 1: I had fun with Art Kearney. I got I liked

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Speaker 1: but she said they were generally nice. I loved you

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Speaker 1: What, Yes, exactly. It was kind of a funny. She

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Speaker 1: We sag some songs. It was space stuff that I

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Speaker 2: But hey, people love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people love well. And then also apparently in that

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Speaker 1: do you have a case of the Frizzies? He's about hair.

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Speaker 1: He's so confused by the whole thing. He is like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they had an interview from him in there

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Speaker 1: but the Case of the Frizzies is not in there

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Speaker 1: in my bootlegged copy. The other part that was just

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Speaker 1: all of this wild stuff. I mean, disco Luke falls

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Speaker 1: And yes, the people who made it generally did not

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Speaker 1: and they're like, you sign that you're in this contract.

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Speaker 1: So that was a good clarification because I've always heard

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Speaker 1: One of the most poignant moments was that they asked

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