1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Hey, am welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh, and 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: there's Chuck and Chuck. I have a question for you. Yes, 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: don't you want to Fanta? Was that a slogan? 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: Mm hm oh don't you wanna? 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that now. It was very catchy, don't 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: you fana? Don't you wanna? 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Was that it? Don't you want to Fanta? I remember? 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I love Fanta? 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean wait, wait, wait, you never answered my question. 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, of course I do if I love it. 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Okay. 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: I think I've mentioned plenty of times that I did 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: not grow up drinking much soda because as a family, 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: we didn't have the kind of money to just load 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: up the house with SODA's, so SODA's were only reserved 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: for my mom to drink tab. 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Oh yes, she's a tab drinker. 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: Huh yeah, we had money for that. But I didn't 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: drink much soda growing up. So I don't drink a 21 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: soda now, thankfully, because that stuff is so bad for you, 22 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: generally speaking. But I will hammer down six cokes a year, 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: and maybe four or five fan of. 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Oranges all at once once a year. 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: I love them. I love that fan of orange. I 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: just you know, you can't drink that stuff a lot. 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: Have you had any of the other fantas, the grape, etc. 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: I think I like dabbled in the grape and kneehigh 29 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: grape and stuff when I was a kid, But it's 30 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: really that. And I like sunkissed, preferred sunkist as a 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: kid here and there. Yeah, yeah, but Fanta orange is 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: one of my rare, rare guilty pleasures. 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: I got you. I was more of a fago man 34 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: as a kid. 35 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: Do I never drink those? And I also never have 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: drink any of the clear or yellows like I've never 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: tasted mountain dew. Didn't drink mellow yellow or sprite or 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: seven up or anything like that. 39 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 1: You missed out you've never tasted mountain dew or mellow yellow. 40 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I have that correct. 41 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: I don't think so wow, I can't remember ever doing it. 42 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know what it tastes like. 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: It looks lemon limey. 44 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: But no, no, it's not. It's its own thing, for sure. 45 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that you should ever break the streak 46 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: now that you've reached this along without trying it. But yeah, 47 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: it's not lemon lime. It's its own thing. 48 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: But what we're talking about is whether or not Fanta 49 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: is a Nazi drink, and we're going to go into 50 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: the history of that, and we're going to start out 51 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: talking a little bit about Coca Cola, the parent company, 52 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: as every most people know by now, it was invented 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: by doctor John Stith Pemberton in eighteen eighty six. He 54 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: was a morphine addicted Civil War veteran looking for a 55 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: better way to feel better than morphine and put together 56 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 2: some cocoa leaves and cola nuts, which had you know, 57 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: were stimulants because of cocaine and caffeine, and said, hey, 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: this is like a new kind of medicine. And after 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: he died it went on to be a very very 60 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: popular drink. 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: It sure did. One of the things that Coca Cola 62 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: did over time was they expanded around the world. They 63 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: became an ambassador of American democracy. One of the places 64 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: they expanded to is Germany, pre war Germany or maybe 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: inter war Germany. I'm not sure when they showed up, 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: but regardless, by the time World War II was starting 67 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: to ramp up, say the thirties the late thirties, Coca 68 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: Cola was heavily entrenched in Germany, and its subsidiary was 69 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: Coca Cola GmbH, which stands for gelschafft mitt besch kroner Hoftung, 70 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: which translates to company with limited liability. And there was 71 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: a guy named Max Kite who ran the show there, 72 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: and boy, oh boy, was he dedicated to Coca Cola 73 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: and furthering the cause of Coca Cola in Germany. 74 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: Yes, for sure. There's a guy named Mark Pendergrast who 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: wrote a book called for God Country and Coca Cola 76 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: No Colon. Yeah you go, Mark, Yeah, that's incredible. And 77 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: he said that you know, this guy loved coke so 78 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: much he really just wanted to weave it into every 79 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: aspect of German life, including the Nazi Party, even though 80 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: supposedly he never was officially joined the Nazi Party. And 81 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: you think, like, well, Coke probably wasn't super stoked about this. 82 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: They didn't care. 83 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 2: Robert Woodruff was running Coke at the time, and he 84 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 2: was like, Hey, this is all good. We're going to 85 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: co sponsor the nineteen thirty six Perlin Olympics. We're going 86 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: to hang up some banners there with our logo right 87 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: next to the swastika, and it's all good everybody. 88 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. Can you imagine I looked high and low for 89 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: a photograph of that, and I could not find it. 90 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: I'm sure Coca Cola has dedicated a significant amount of 91 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: his operational fund to destroying any evidence of that banner. Ever. 92 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: I haven't been to the World of Coke Museum, but 93 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: I bet right here in Atlanta, I bet it's not 94 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: in there. 95 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: I'll bet they don't have it up too. There was 96 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: also the tenth anniversary of Coca Cola GmbH. They decided 97 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: to commemorate their deepest admiration for the fure for Hitler's 98 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: fiftieth birthday with a mass Nazi salute. I guess of 99 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: employees who worked there at the time, Yeah, exactly. So, 100 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: Coca Cola was very much entrenched in Nazi Germany even 101 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: before the war, especially before the war. 102 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: I should say, well, yeah, because once the war started, 103 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: they're like, oh, well, I guess we can't do business 104 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: with Germany anymore. And Germany was seizing enemy owned businesses 105 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: at will. I think General Motors actually got out of Germany, 106 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: but they did seize IBM, and Coca Cola said, sorry, kite, 107 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: we got to stop sending you our seven X flavoring 108 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: and he said, but that is the secret, and they went, 109 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: I know, and I'm really sorry. But even though we're friends, 110 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: our countries aren't friends right now. And that was a 111 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: huge hit on Coca Cola LLC GNB H Germany. 112 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: He could make coke. 113 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: So he was like, I got to come up with 114 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: a new plan. 115 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. And also at the same time, he's walking this 116 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: fine line between not having access to the product that 117 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: his company makes and trying to keep the German government 118 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: from officially seizing and taking over his company. And to 119 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: do that he needs he needs a hit. He needs 120 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: the most delicious, most nutritious thing you could possibly put 121 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: together that's going to sweep Germany right off the bat. 122 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: And I feel like we should talk about this product 123 00:06:37,080 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: that Max Kite introduced after a break. Oh okay, Chuck. 124 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: So Max kite'es like, what am I going to do? 125 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: I need to come up with something fast to keep 126 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: my company afloat. I think I'll just create an entirely 127 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: new drink that no one's ever even thought of making before. Yeah, 128 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: And because there's so many wartime rations going on, I'm 129 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to get really creative here, but I'm gonna 130 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: do it. 131 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, not only did he was he not 132 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: getting that sweet sweet seven X coke syrup. He didn't 133 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: have sugar, or at least much. They were rationing sugar 134 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: at the time, so he said all right. He ended 135 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: up saying the recipe was made from the leftovers of 136 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: the leftovers. The first fanta, which, by the way, is 137 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: the German word for fantasy or imagination. And supposedly he said, hey, 138 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: marketing team, use your fantasy to think of a good name, 139 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: and they said, how about fanta? And he went, that's great. 140 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: How about love? 141 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: I think he was gotta nip who officially thought of 142 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: the name. But he got apple pulp from leftover apple 143 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: cider making, beet sugar and whey, and by all accounts, 144 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: it was not orange at all, and it tasted like 145 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: sweet garbage. 146 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: It's yeah. It took me a couple of reads to 147 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: be like, well, wait a minute, how does that taste 148 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: like fanta? And then I realized it just sudden horror. 149 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: It didn't taste anything like fanta, And apparently it didn't 150 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: taste very well at all. Historians no one knows what 151 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: it tasted like. Or at least no one's been able 152 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: to find somebody who actually drank this stuff. But they're like, 153 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: just look at the ingredients. There's no way it tasted good. 154 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: And they think that it was probably mostly sold to 155 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: be used as like a flavor agent for soups and 156 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: stews and stuff like that. That people weren't just knocking 157 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: back bottles of this stuff, because they would have vomited 158 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: until they died. I guess instead they were just using 159 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: it in other ways. But that's not to say it 160 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: wasn't a huge hit. It was a big seller. And 161 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: not only that, it instilled like a kind of national 162 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: pride among Germans, like, look at how resourceful we are 163 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: in the face of you know, wartime scarcity. But have 164 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: you tried this stuff? 165 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was their own. They're like, we have fanta 166 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: and beer, and like we're going to claim those and 167 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: love those and drink those until we fall over. 168 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: So he did. 169 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: Even though, like I said, he officially supposedly never joined 170 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: the Nazi Party, he did work very closely with the 171 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: Nazi Party because he needed their help. He needed their 172 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: help making sure that production continued, and you know, the 173 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: cooperation with the Nazis was a key part of that, 174 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: but that was able to keep the doors open, at 175 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: least officially. Coca Cola in April of nineteen fifty five, 176 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: post war, said why don't we rejigger Fanta and make 177 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: it taste good? And we've got the we have it copyrighted, 178 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: and it's already sort of got a little bit of 179 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: a cred at least in Europe. So let's just keep 180 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: the name and hopefully no one will remember the Nazi ties. 181 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also so this name, just the name, right, 182 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: they could have come up with anything else, but just 183 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: the name has Nazi ties. Like you said, it was 184 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: created in and for Nazi Germany, and it was also 185 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: made from apple pulp and beet sugar, and way, why 186 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: would you use that. I would think you would want 187 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: to do the exact opposite and bury that name, like 188 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: it was a banner with the coke logo in the swastika. 189 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: But instead they just went with it, and they introduced 190 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: it in Italy first. Is this the version we know now, 191 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: this orange soda version? And Italy was like, yeah, it's 192 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: pretty good, let's go with that, and they started to 193 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: export it finally made it into the United States in 194 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight, which was I think three years after 195 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: they reintroduced it in Italy. 196 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think with the deal was is it wasn't 197 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: widely known outside of Germany, so it's not like the 198 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: word Fanta had some negative connotation all over the world, 199 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: and the Germans loved it, so it actually had a 200 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: positive connotation and at least one market. So yeah, I 201 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: get it. I mean, maybe it would have been a 202 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: good pr move to change it because it's the Nazi thing, 203 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: but I don't think it was like some otherwise tainted name. 204 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: I see, I see what you mean. And they were like, 205 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure people just forget about it. Anyway, within a 206 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: year or two, anybody who even knows about it, it'll 207 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: never come out. 208 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, until you know, people started calling it a Nazi 209 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: drink and you know, on the Internet, and the idea 210 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 2: kind of spread and it was, you know, it was 211 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: Fanta and not Fanta. But yeah, people largely didn't think 212 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: much about it, and I still don't think much about it. 213 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like if you buy a Fanta 214 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: or something today, you're supporting Nazis. 215 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: Right to the upkeep of Hitler's tomb or something like that. 216 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: A small donation, but the author Pendergrast, was like, it's 217 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: this is pretty It is still pretty significant that people 218 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: like this drink enough that even knowing it's its roots 219 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: or where it came from, it was like, it's just 220 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: it's an orange soda. I like it for what it is. 221 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: And it's not just orange. As we said, they have 222 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: a whole line of flavors, including grape, and I think 223 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: it's much more popular in South America right now, but yeah, 224 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: still pretty pretty big in America in the United States. Man, 225 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: we keep getting taken to task for that, for calling 226 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: the US America. Yeah, sorry, everybody, that's what That's what 227 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: they tell us. That's what they teach us here. 228 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: Uh. As far as Kite goes, he stuck around and 229 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: the Coca Cola company said, you know what, even though 230 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: your drinkles was garbage, you did the yeoman's work way 231 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: back then and kept that brand alive. And so he 232 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 2: was made eventually the head of Coca Cola Europe and uh, 233 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: you know, it seems like had a pretty good career 234 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: as a soda guy. 235 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: Oh. One other thing about that too, is as the 236 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: Nazis rolled in the country after country, Kite was right 237 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: behind the tanks going. Your division of Coca Cola is 238 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: now part of Coca Cola Deutsch Lant. Your division of 239 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: Coca Cola is now part of Coca Cola Deutsch Lant. 240 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: And so when he was made the head of Coca 241 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: Cola Europe, he had consolidated through conquering other businesses. He 242 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: had consolidated all into one company because of the Nazis 243 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: conquering these countries. Isn't that nuts? Yeah? 244 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 2: I mean, who better to lead the Coca Cola Europe 245 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: you know, I guess he was already taking place. 246 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. He kept pounding his fist in his hand whenever 247 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: he talked at like board meetings and investors' meetings. That's right, Okay, 248 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: Well that's it for fanta? Do you want a Fanta? 249 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's only a question you can answer yourself. 250 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: And while you think about that, we're done with this. 251 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: So short stuff is out. 252 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: Stuff he should know is a production of iHeartRadio. For 253 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 2: more podcasts my Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 254 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.