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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast on Mike

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Speaker 4: Calibery's joined by my Action Network co host all college

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Speaker 4: basketball experts here at the table, joshn On Aka Duck

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Speaker 4: and Christian Oh Jack g In. We got some midweek

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Speaker 4: college hoops action to dig into, and as always, we're

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Speaker 4: going to get through some of our rants, so our

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Speaker 4: higher level looks. But if you want to go ahead

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Speaker 4: and stick around for our best bets, we're gonna hit

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Speaker 4: games from Thursday and Friday, maybe even a look for

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Speaker 4: the weekends. Lots to get into, but let's start here.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna pose a question to the team to get

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Speaker 4: us kickstarted, and this kind of key up Hoop's vision

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Speaker 4: over on YouTube. It's a great account to follow if

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Speaker 4: you want to learn a little bit more about the

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Speaker 4: statistical nature of college basketball. Some film cut ups they

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Speaker 4: basically brought to the table this week. This conversation abound Arizona.

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Speaker 4: And it's the fact that on one end of the

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Speaker 4: more than fifty percent of their shots from the field

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Speaker 4: being from three point range, and then Arizona's all the

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Speaker 4: way on the other end of the spectrum. And it's

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Speaker 4: clearly worked for both programs. They were able to race

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Speaker 4: out to what twenty two, twenty.

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Speaker 5: One, twenty two wins in a row to start the season.

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Speaker 4: But obviously they're playing a different brand of basketball, and

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Speaker 4: there's national pundits like Jalen Rose who say they can't

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Speaker 4: win the national championship. Taking five, six, seven threes in

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Speaker 4: a game that could be just a quick run from

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Speaker 4: another team, it kind of ties one arm behind their back.

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Speaker 4: I would say that this is not by accident.

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Speaker 5: This is Tommy Lloyd's system.

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Speaker 4: It's built on hunting quality shots inside of the arc,

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Speaker 4: and it's also made them very consistent. I know I'm

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Speaker 4: going to get from them offensively down the stretch, so

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Speaker 4: I'll go to duck first on this one. Do you

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Speaker 4: think they're more vulnerable or more in terms of a

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Speaker 4: betting option when it comes to March by sheer factor

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Speaker 4: of them not firing up so many threes, Well, it.

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Speaker 6: Really doesn't impact my assessment on if they can make

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Speaker 6: a deep run. When you look at Arizona, they have

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Speaker 6: been a team that has shown the ability to knock

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Speaker 6: down threes. They're shooting at a high percentage, and they

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Speaker 6: have five players on their team that have nailed at

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Speaker 6: least sixteen three point shots on the season. You look

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Speaker 6: at Braden Burry's, Anthony Delorso, Jaden Bradley, these guys can

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Speaker 6: snipe it from deep, they just haven't had to. And

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Speaker 6: I look at where Arizona is going to set up

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Speaker 5: Should be a breeze.

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Speaker 6: If you're looking at potential eight nine matchups Utah State,

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Speaker 6: NC State, Villanova, Scani Iowa, these teams are going to

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Speaker 6: sixteen and the Elite eight matchups and the draw. For

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Speaker 6: teams like Kansas, Virginia, Saint John's, Bama, Texas Tech, there

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Speaker 5: More concern to me with.

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Speaker 6: Arizona is that there's been very little pressure put on

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Speaker 6: these guys that they've had to overcome the season. I mean,

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Speaker 6: what's their biggest deficit that they've faced this year? Five points?

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Speaker 6: So my question is can Tommy Lloyd get past the

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Speaker 6: sweet sixteen? As you know, we've seen some talented Arizona

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Speaker 6: teams that have squandered opportunities and not gotten the job

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Speaker 6: done in March. Arizona hasn't been to the Final four

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Speaker 6: the pressure is going to start to mount. So what

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Speaker 6: you're not in one of those higher pressure situations because

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Speaker 6: you didn't have to face it all season. I think

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Speaker 6: this bunch needs more of those scenarios. I don't think

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Speaker 6: it would be a bad thing for them to have

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Speaker 6: in grit. That's what I would be worried about with Arizona.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't have anything to do with how many three

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, at least, my take on this is

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Speaker 4: that kind of in line with what you were saying, Duck,

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Speaker 4: they have the ability to knock down the shots, they're

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Speaker 4: choosing not to take them. So if they are in

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Speaker 4: both of those guys we haven't necessarily seen their best

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Speaker 4: the number one team the country, they're in analytics starlingk,

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Speaker 4: I still think there's more to come in terms of

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Speaker 4: both of them. What do you think Christian in terms

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Speaker 3: A lot about them.

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Speaker 2: You know, at Kansas, texastack at home BYU at home

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Speaker 2: at Houston, at Baylor home against Kansas is a ridiculous schedule.

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Speaker 2: I agree that it wouldn't be the worst thing in

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Speaker 2: the world for them to lose. They probably lose one

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Speaker 2: or two of those and they're still the number one

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Speaker 2: overall seed. Here's what I find funny about this dialogue, though,

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Speaker 2: of out of touch for numerous reasons. One is that

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Speaker 2: they were two j eightieth in three point right the

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Speaker 2: last two seasons with Caleb freaking Love on their team

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Speaker 2: and guess guests who went zero for nine from deep

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Speaker 2: against Clemson in a game where I wanted them to

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Speaker 2: be pounding it inside more and not settling right. When

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Speaker 2: you have a point guard like Jane Bradley, who Tommy

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Speaker 2: Lloyd continually talks about is the best point guard in

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Speaker 2: the country, which I'm not putting him in that conversation

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Speaker 2: or I'm not I'm sorry he's in the conversation, but

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Speaker 2: I'm not giving him the number one title.

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Speaker 3: He has been elite.

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Speaker 2: And if your box were watching and you look and

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Speaker 2: you should take more threes.

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Speaker 3: No, he shouldn't. Guess what, that's not his game.

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Speaker 2: He'll take those when he's wide open or you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like he had a clutch one against

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Speaker 2: being a volume three point shooter like Duyne, Aristode, Delaerso,

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Speaker 2: know as Duk Meuntion, you have shooters. And I'm fine

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Speaker 2: got to look me on the numbers with things like that.

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Speaker 3: And I also think about the.

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Speaker 2: Fact that what would I say my number one weakness

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Speaker 2: way they find themselves into trouble is if someone can

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Speaker 2: successfully slow the tempo down on them. They lost to

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Speaker 2: Prince in fifty nine to fifty five in that game,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, when you slowed tempo down

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Speaker 2: with Arizona. If you guys remember that game, it was

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Speaker 2: like Kerk cries and Courtney Raimy like pulling up from

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Speaker 3: It's like, we don't want that.

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Speaker 2: What happened to playing through to bellis in your NBA

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Speaker 2: They're two close games on away from home at Yukon,

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Speaker 2: which of course Ukon was missing pieces, and you see

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Speaker 3: Nine and sixty five and seventy one sixty seven.

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Speaker 2: So I think Houston, Texas, Tech, Kansas or half court

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Speaker 3: But the three point the three point rate is.

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Speaker 2: Not an issue when one they're clearly the number one

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Speaker 6: I think the thing to look at as well in

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Speaker 6: the NCAA tournament is this is a one and done scenario.

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Speaker 6: And if you are banking on a team that is

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Speaker 6: you're playing at eleven o'clock Eastern time in an unfamiliar place.

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Speaker 6: That creates a lot of elemented variants when you're reliant

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Speaker 6: It's going to take a special performance. And if Arizona

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Speaker 6: It's not going to come down to fluke shooting variants.

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Speaker 6: I think it actually provides a little more consistency that

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Speaker 6: Arizona runs their stuff. They're not extremely and extravagantly reliant

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go from the number one team in

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Speaker 4: kept their eye on, and that is the Whack.

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Speaker 5: And you want to talk to me about the Wolverines, Duck.

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Speaker 6: Well, guys, look, I get it, like the politics and

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Speaker 6: the stuff going on with realignment NIL people coming and going,

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Speaker 6: But what's happening with Utah Valley is bad for them

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Speaker 6: and also for the Whack. The Wolverines have potentially their

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Speaker 6: best team ever. They're tied for first place in the

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Speaker 6: Western Athletic Conference, They're undefeated at home. Utah Valley is

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Speaker 6: leaving the Whack and they're heading to the Big West

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Speaker 6: next season along with cal Baptist, and there is some

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Speaker 6: the exit fee and what should be paid and what

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Speaker 6: and they're digging their heels in and likely going to

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Speaker 6: be ruled ineligible for postseason competition. What this means is

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Speaker 6: no conference tournament, no NCAA tournament. Likely they're just refusing

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Speaker 6: to pay the fee. This is not good for the

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Speaker 6: student athletes or the Whack at large. You want to

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Speaker 6: send your best representation to the NCAA tournament, and now

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Speaker 6: the Whack is likely not going to do that. They're

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Speaker 6: also going to only have six participating teams in the

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Speaker 6: postseason conference tournament. You look at the whack, they're a mess.

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Speaker 6: They're losing Southern Utah and Utah Tech to the Big Sky.

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Speaker 6: They're only going to have three remaining schools, which are

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Speaker 6: going to be absorbed into the A Sun. They're going

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Speaker 2: I tweeted out earlier today that Baylor and Album are

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Speaker 2: They're two and seven in Big Twelve play. They lost

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Speaker 2: It's fun to watch PJ. Haggerty, but I don't want

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Speaker 5: I've never liked the guy. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: All the personality of you know, Dan Hurley when he's

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Speaker 4: that being said, though, does he kind of have a

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Speaker 4: like Green Bay, you're treading water. You're what twelve and

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Speaker 4: that you tweeted about this, Christian, I'll let you take

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Speaker 4: But I think there's got to be some way from

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Speaker 2: Doug gottlie Be pointed out that context matters and that

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Speaker 5: Is the market just wrong on this?

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Speaker 2: I'm once again looking at they can handle this pace

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Speaker 2: point about in the tournament setting, it's.

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00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,520
Speaker 3: Kind of like the Syracuse two three zone.

436
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,199
Speaker 2: It's like when you have a curveball, you know that

437
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 2: you're so comfortable playing and for other teams on shorter

438
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,760
Speaker 2: prep having to play against such a distinct style, they

439
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,840
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440
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,600
Speaker 2: Griffin said, do I think it was Josh Hubbard, Like

441
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Speaker 2: Joshaber's like, now you guys gonna Press all game. He's like, absolutely,

442
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 2: you know they suck to play against, and you keep

443
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444
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445
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446
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Speaker 2: okay well what happens when you Play florida is that

447
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 2: when the doors get blown off and you lose a

448
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,080
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449
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474
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Speaker 4: Nunn Texas. Tech Western Illinois leathernecks have been a good

475
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 4: bet on unders this, year and this one's projected just.

476
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:49,719
Speaker 5: About at one.

477
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 4: Forty talking through your cutoff number and why you, know

478
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 4: the narrative and the game flow all seems to be

479
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,439
Speaker 4: trending to an under in your.

480
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Speaker 6: Opinion, yeah, Well Western illinois has been one of my

481
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 6: favorite under team in the entire. Country these guys are

482
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 6: three fifty ninth nationally in offensive efficiency and three twenty

483
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 6: fourth in offensive possession. Length The leathernecks are, methodical they can't.

484
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 6: Score they don't shoot the ball very, well three forty

485
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 6: seventh in three point. Percentage The leathernecks are three sixty

486
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 6: first in post shooting and three thirty fifth in foul.

487
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 6: Shooting they're going to be forced deep into the shot

488
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 6: clock regularly and will have to resort to contested jumpers

489
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 6: which they don't want to, shoot or they'll turn the ball,

490
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 6: over and a lot of the turnovers are shot clock,

491
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 6: violations errant, passes traveling things that don't result in. Runouts

492
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 6: on the other, END i look At Tennessee. Tech they've

493
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 6: played some of the quicker paced teams in THE ovc

494
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 6: in recent, games Including Tennessee, State, Lindenwood Southern. Indiana But

495
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 6: i'm not convinced that these guys really want to run

496
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 6: a high tempo, game especially with how The Golden eagles

497
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 6: struggle with turning the ball, over which they do three

498
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 6: thirty second overall. Nationally there's very weak post play for

499
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,719
Speaker 6: TIME Nsc, Tech Danny, Pounds Juwan. Nichols they're DECENT ovc,

500
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 6: players but they don't shoot the ball exceedingly. Well Mechy,

501
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 6: cameron he can get hot from, deep or he could

502
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 6: go to for eleven from. DEEP i look at the

503
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 6: last meeting between these, two which ended fifty nine to

504
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,479
Speaker 6: fifty four and played to sixty three total. Possessions we

505
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 6: had twenty six, turnovers we had eight total made, threes

506
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 6: and we had forty two first half. POINTS i think

507
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 6: we see this one play out. Similarly this should be

508
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 6: a dead nut UNDER i think we're getting a little

509
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 6: value in this total based on some of the final

510
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 6: scores from these two teams in recent, games but this

511
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 6: one should be first one to sixty. Wins this if

512
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 6: we're getting one forty absolutely and under all, Right.

513
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 4: Christian you're looking At Ohio, state travel on To College,

514
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 4: park And Buzz williams is, not you, know a turnaround

515
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 4: specialist by any. Stretch you look At Virginia tech his

516
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 4: first year, THERE i think he won eleven, games won

517
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 4: sixteen in year one In College, station you, know coaching

518
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 4: Up TEXAS a AND. M so the expectations weren't necessarily

519
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 4: that he was going to elevate this team to the

520
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 4: tournament and they were going to a deep. Run but

521
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 4: this has been an unmitigated. Disaster like this has been

522
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 4: so bad it calls into question is he the right?

523
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 4: Fit can he recruit in the next. Cycle what are

524
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 4: they going to do to get things going in the right.

525
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 4: Direction do you think we've seen the floor with This

526
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 4: maryland team or is there any value in a market

527
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 4: over correction to then take them as a home.

528
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: Dog, yeah they're, terrible, Man They're they're really really. Bad

529
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: AND i backed them AGAINST usc a couple of weeks,

530
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 2: ago and they were in the game Because Diggy koit was.

531
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 3: Cooking he had thirty in the.

532
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 2: Game but in the second half they could not get

533
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: a stop against THE usc team that didn't Have Chad

534
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: Baker mazzara in Pre Elijah renas like A us team

535
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 2: that couldn't score on, Anybody and in the second half

536
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: they literally couldn't get a. STOP i found myself getting

537
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: into trouble in some of these big Ten Thursday friday

538
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: windows where there's like not as.

539
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: Many games going.

540
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: On But i'm just looking At bruce Thor, in who

541
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: we've talked about as a guy one of the. Best

542
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: pretend if he doesn't make THE Ncay tournament this, year

543
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 2: he'll be one of the best four year out of

544
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: School Power conference players that never made the. Tournament and

545
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: he's a winning. Player he's not some empty stats kind of,

546
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 2: guy AND i saw clips of him yelling at his

547
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: guys in the ninety two eighty two loss At. Wisconsin

548
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: you got four days off to go play the worst

549
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: team in the. League if you're laying eight or, NINE i,

550
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: mean this should be All Ohio state like with a

551
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 2: leader like that for a much better. TEAM i expect

552
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: them go take care of business and the Tax i'm,

553
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: being you, know on the road or a. THEORETICAL i,

554
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: mean like you, said has the floor?

555
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 3: Bottom? Now could they really be this?

556
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: Bad they are that, bad AND i Expect bruce and

557
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: the boys to go in there and take care of.

558
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: Business i'd lay up to ten there all.

559
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 5: Right, THURSDAY i Like Aablene christian plus thirteen and a.

560
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 5: Half that's at least the.

561
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 4: PROJECTION i would take him down to twelve At Utah.

562
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 4: Valley As duck, Mentioned Utah valley now ineligible for THE

563
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 4: Wac conference, tournament which also means their opportunity to go

564
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 4: dancing has gone up in.

565
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 5: Smoke that's devastating to any.

566
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 4: Team but certainly a team that's in a tie for

567
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 4: first place at this point in the season makes this

568
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: a massive letdown. Spot Brett tanner took over For Joe

569
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 4: golding At abiley And christian five years, ago and he

570
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 4: kept The wildcats calling car that helped them secure A

571
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 4: March madness upset Of texas And Shaka smart with suffocating

572
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: on ball. Defense they, press they blits every single ball.

573
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 4: Screen they're active with their hands every single. Defender the

574
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 4: result is twenty point two percent of opponent possessions and

575
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 4: in a turnover that's the third best mark in the entire.

576
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 4: Country And Utah, valley by the, way is horrific when facing.

577
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 4: Pressure they're three hundred and forty ninth in turnover. Percentage

578
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 4: that is a strength versut weakness battle right. Away SO

579
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 4: i want to take a team that's catching double digit

580
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: points when you have a massive advantage like. That, now

581
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 4: obviously the drawback is if you Watch Ablien, christian they gamble,

582
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 4: defensively they're trying to. Trap they're going to let you

583
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 4: be able to get easy buckets on the other, side

584
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 4: and sometimes even in the half court they're.

585
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 5: Just allowing full on. Layups and efficient offenses are going

586
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 5: to take.

587
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 4: Advantage Utah valley seventeenth nationally in shooting, percentage so they're

588
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 4: going to get plenty of easy looks and. Buckets but

589
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 4: in this first, Matchup i've already seen it now great

590
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 4: was on ACU's home, floor but they created twenty two

591
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: turnovers and they won the game going away eighty five sixty.

592
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 4: Eight The wildcats have been in a shooting slump, since

593
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: but that's just given.

594
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 5: Us value on this.

595
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: NUMBER i think it's gonna keep it closer to thirteen

596
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 4: or thirteen and a half if we get a quality

597
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 4: performance out Of Brandon Hunter, HUBBARD i should SAY i

598
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 4: think their chances of winning this game outright are not you,

599
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 4: know it's a non zero percent chance and a spot like,

600
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 4: this But i'm gonna play it. Safe i'm gonna take

601
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 4: the Points. Hubbard if he can give me fifteen eighteen, POINTS.

602
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 5: I think the.

603
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 4: COVER i think if he gets into the mid, twenties

604
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 4: there's a chance that they win this one out.

605
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 5: Right all.

606
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: Right back to you On, Thursday, duck when you came

607
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 4: to visit here in the Greater philadelphia, area spent the

608
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 4: weekend together watching college, hoops you couldn't shut up About.

609
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 4: Quinnipiac So i'm gonna give you the full floor. Here

610
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 4: if there's Any quinnipiac grads in the, audience this is

611
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 4: your best five minutes of the ENTIRE bboc.

612
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 5: Season so talk me through the. Bobs.

613
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 6: Well i've made a joke before my three favorite college

614
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 6: basketball conferences are THE, mac THE, mac and THE. Meac

615
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 6: not really, true BUT i like to say that. Anyway

616
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 6: quinnipiac On thursday projected spread of thirteen at home Against.

617
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 6: Canisius canisius cannot shoot the basketball and The Golden griffs

618
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 6: play at a treacherously slow. Pace they're three to fifty

619
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 6: third nationally an adjusted offensive, efficiency three point fifty seventh

620
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 6: in two point, shooting and You're they're not going to

621
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 6: be able to Attack quinnipiac in the post. Here So

622
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 6: knisius is going to have to shoot the long ball

623
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 6: in order to stay in this. One and doing that

624
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 6: with on the road without an Eye black Or, bernard

625
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 6: it's going to be real trouble For. Canisius if a

626
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 6: guy Like Khalil singleton were to happen to go six

627
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 6: of eleven from, deep this could be, close BUT i

628
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 6: would absolutely not bank on that on the. Road quinnipiac

629
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 6: is a really talented team in THE. Mac you've got

630
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 6: A mari Mon, Roe Jayden zimmerman who's really getting back

631
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 6: into the swing here after missing some time with. Injury

632
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 6: eight games back from, injury double figure scoring in every

633
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 6: single one of, them and three times he's had at

634
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 6: least seven, assists so he's facilitating well Asim jones can

635
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 6: go for twenty every. NIGHT i look At. Quinnipiac they

636
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 6: do not turn the ball. Over they should Shred canisius

637
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 6: in the. Lane canisius does not have the firepower to

638
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 6: keep up here and they should get shredded. Defensively i'll

639
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 6: lay up to thirteen and a half here WITH quinnipiec.

640
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 4: All, right big game On friday night and that Is

641
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 4: yukon And Saint. John's this one should be an absolute

642
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 4: war Because Saint john's defensively can really ratchet it. Up

643
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: they have the, flexibility they have positionless basketball on the

644
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 4: defensive ends where they can take away everything that you

645
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: want to. Do, offensively they leave a lot to be.

646
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 4: DESIRED i, Mean darling has been a nice addition in conference.

647
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: Play he certainly helps them close out, games as you

648
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: saw against A. PAUL i think he made six straight

649
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: foul shots in that game and slam the door on

650
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: The Blue. Demons but outside of, that they can go

651
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: long stretches without, scoring and that's why you're targeting the under.

652
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 5: Here.

653
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: Christian, YEAH i was At Saint john's De paul last,

654
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: night got some live eyes on The johnnys and you

655
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: know what you just, Said, Mike it definitely popped OFF.

656
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: SCREENA i also think last, year the first matchup Between

657
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: Yukons Saint john's was a slog sixty eight sixty. Two

658
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: the total for this one's should probably be around one.

659
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: Forty the second one ended up being eighty nine seventy.

660
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: FIVE a key reason why that score got up Is

661
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 2: yukon had eighteen turnovers in that.

662
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: Game and this.

663
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: Season yukon hasn't been great at taking care of the.

664
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: Basketball actually they're second to last and The Big east

665
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: In lee. Play but knowing, that Knowing Dan hurley and

666
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: that turnovers were such a key problem in that last

667
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: matchup Against patino And Saint, JOHN'S i think that'll be

668
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: a point of. Emphasis but When i'm also projecting what

669
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: half court possessions look like for both these Teams i'm

670
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: thinking About Saint john's is optionality and switchability being really

671
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: important for helping track With yukon's off ball. Movement yukon's

672
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: one knock this year is, that like the reason they're

673
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: not top four On kempum and that they're at tenth

674
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: is because they're not a very efficient two point. Offense

675
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: sUAS damar is the only kind of guy off the

676
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: bounce who's really getting in there and setting guys. Up

677
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: most of their offense is all about the off ball

678
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: movement in Terras reid setting moving, screens the shooters running.

679
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: Around they have someone. Shooting BUT i Think Saint john's

680
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: ability to stay with that. Action In yukon is a

681
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: slower tempo. Team the way there's, DEVELOPED i Think Saint

682
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: john's will develop there and Then Saint john's, offensively, man

683
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: it's these it's these dhows from like the, elbow you

684
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: know Where Bryce hopkins will get. It and then it's

685
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: DO i just go put my head down tragets the?

686
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: Liner DO i kick it out to a guy who's

687
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: not gonna shoot and open? Three you know their offensive,

688
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: possessions they're so, athletic and you have guys who can,

689
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: shoot like Like sellers can, Shoot darling can, shoot as you,

690
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: Mentioned jackson can. Shoot but there's just a lot of

691
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: possessions THAT i use the words archaic and, aimless and

692
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: When zoobie has Terrorist reid to deal with instead of

693
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: someone that he can absolutely, OVERPOWER i think it's gonna

694
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: be tough for them. Too so as long as this

695
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: name doesn't get two out in the open floor and

696
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: new contacts good care of the, BASKETBALL i think it'll

697
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: be a lower, scoring gritty game at The garden.

698
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: THERE i, mean let's talk price sensitivity for a, moment

699
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: Because torviick And Evan mia are actually pretty far apart

700
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: on this.

701
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 5: One for the.

702
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: Total you got me a looking at it at one

703
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: forty eight And torbick closer to one forty three and a.

704
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 5: Half what is your cutoff point in terms of this?

705
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: Under, yeah you And Kemp poun's got at one forty,

706
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: five so splitting, THAT i think it'll get bit, Down

707
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: So i'm gonna be on it right. Away but If

708
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: i'm getting one forty, five's that's an easy call for

709
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: me for the, under And i'd probably play it up to.

710
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: H, honestly anything.

711
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: ABOVE i can't imagine it drops below like one forty

712
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: two or.

713
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: Something like, that But i'd be. COMFORTABLE i think this

714
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: is gonna be in the high, sixties all.

715
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: Right i'm gonna go back in time To, thursday looking

716
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 4: At northeastern traveling To hofstra projections calling for the Flying

717
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: dutchman delay between eight and, nine nine and a half.

718
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 5: TEN i go up to ten on this. One The

719
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 5: pride skid is.

720
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: Over if they lost five straight at one, point with

721
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: four of those five losses coming five points or, less

722
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: this offense has the potential to pop their eighty ninth

723
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: And Ken palm fifty fifth in offensive rebounding. Rate And

724
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 4: Cruz davis just pulled out of an eight for thirty

725
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 4: five slump with a twenty four point outing on sixty

726
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 4: percent shooting Against.

727
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 5: Monmouth that is WHAT i.

728
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: NEEDED i was keeping my money on the sideline with Hopstrik.

729
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: AS i got a bit during that losing streak and

730
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: a bit of his cold. Shooting but now THAT i

731
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: finally saw the ball go through the hoop for, Him

732
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 4: i'm ready to jump back on this. Bandwagon he can

733
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: be special in this.

734
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 5: Game for one. Reason northeastern is awful, defensively but particularly

735
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 5: on the. Perimeter Jalen counter From charleston just gave them

736
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 5: twenty eight and eleven assists two games before. That Eric

737
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 5: pratt From Stony brook went for thirty one to. Nine

738
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 5: Mark cruz down for twenty.

739
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: Five and let's call it eight assists in this, One

740
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 4: northeastern one and seven against the spread in their last,

741
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: eight showing just how poorly they've been Playing VISA vi.

742
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: EXPECTATIONS i think this is going to be another against

743
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 4: the spread, loss So i'll go ahead and play the.

744
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 4: Pride all, Right, Duck let's close out your card here

745
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 4: With evansville Versus. Valpo going with another under for a

746
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: projection in about you, know the late one.

747
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 5: Thirties let's call it one thirty seven and a.

748
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: Half, yeah let's look At.

749
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 6: Evansville they have the worst offense in The Missouri Valley,

750
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 6: conference turnovers on twenty one percent of overall. Possessions, again

751
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 6: many of these are going to be shot clock, violations aaron, passes,

752
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 6: traveling just bad situational. Execution evansville is three thirtieth and

753
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 6: three point shooting two point thirty second from inside the,

754
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 6: arc and the pace has slowed significantly For evansville the

755
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 6: second half of the league. Schedule there's seventh in overall

756
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 6: tempo In Missouri Valley. Play just cannot get a lot.

757
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 6: Going they don't get to the line there's zero offensive,

758
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 6: rebounding just. Horrific turning the ball over not going to

759
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 6: go well here on the road Against, Valpo valpo play

760
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 6: is at a pace that is two hundred and ninety six,

761
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 6: nationally the slowest in this. Conference these guys are, good

762
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 6: but they don't shoot the ball overly well three thirty

763
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 6: seventh and overall effective field goal, percentage And valpo is

764
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 6: three hundred and forty fourth nationally from inside the, arc

765
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 6: two seventy fourth from. OUTSIDE i look At, valpraiso they

766
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 6: really need a good defensive showing after getting The belmont

767
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 6: treatment and then following that up with uninspiring defensive performances

768
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 6: Against Indiana state And. BRADLEY i think we see it.

769
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 6: Here i've got this one pegged about seventy two to

770
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 6: fifty eight. Finals so at one thirty seven and a,

771
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 6: HALF i show value on the.

772
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 5: Under all, Right i'm gonna throw in one more here

773
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 5: and it's On. Friday bradley catching five and a half

774
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 5: At Northern. Iowa i'm always in favor of taking points

775
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 5: against teams that struggle to.

776
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 4: Score The panthers are two hundred and fifty third and shooting,

777
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: efficiency they really struggle from the, line shooting just sixty six,

778
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 4: percent which is three hundred and fortieth in the whole.

779
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 5: Country so if they're looking.

780
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 4: To close out this game late And bradley's chasing three,

781
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 4: POINTERS i think you can get yourself a backdoor because

782
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: to be that week from the, line and then also

783
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: on top of, things they're almost dead last and offensive,

784
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 4: rebounding so there's just not a lot of extra opportunities

785
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 4: For Northern iowa to you, know point pad in this.

786
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 4: One Trey campbell has been hit or miss lately as

787
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: their go to. Score it's really been that Will hornsmith

788
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 4: who's been stepping up for them the past two. Weeks,

789
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: luckily in terms of this, matchup you, Know bradley has

790
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 4: the best wing defender who kind of plays either small

791
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 4: forwards or stretch forwards in Aj. Smith he's the second

792
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 4: best rated defender at that position Per Evan mia in The.

793
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 4: Valley SO i like, that you, know being able to

794
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 4: take away their strongest player really in the last two.

795
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 4: Weeks on The bradley side of, things they have the

796
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: firepower to score you AND i as they did in

797
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 4: their first meeting when they won seventy five sixty nine In,

798
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 4: peoria and as, always there's a chance for a nuclear

799
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 4: game out Of Jakwan, johnson their point. Guard he already

800
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: has three games this season with at least twenty nine

801
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: points and five, assists and he's been uber, efficient including

802
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: their meeting With Northern iowa earlier this, year where he

803
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 4: went for seventeen, points six, assists and zero. Turnovers this

804
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: is the stretch run of The valley before we get

805
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 4: To Arch. Madness everyone is looking to avoid the side

806
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: of the bracket With, belmont and you need to get

807
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: a tour of three seed to do that because the

808
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 4: four or five matchup filters right Into belmont as the.

809
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 4: One so this is a must win For bradley With

810
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 4: belmont on deck And Murray state On march, first just

811
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: over the. Horizon SO i think you're going to get

812
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 4: a full. Effort this is a team they already beat

813
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 4: and a team THAT i just don't think trends to

814
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 4: really cover larger numbers on the verge of being two.

815
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 4: Possessions so IF i get five and a, half that

816
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: would be. GREAT i would play it down to five

817
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: in this. Spot all, Right before we get out of,

818
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 4: here we're going to run through our favorite bets for

819
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 4: a bit of a midweek parlay. Duck you're going to

820
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: add in the leatherneck.

821
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 5: Under and why? Not these guys have been AN atm

822
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 5: on unders this.

823
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 6: Season, YEAH i mean it's not a fun. Watch it's

824
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 6: gonna be sloppy. Basketball it's gonna be slow. Paced you're

825
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 6: gonna get a lot of short, jumpers a lot of

826
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 6: one and done's a lot of. Turnovers BUT i just

827
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 6: don't see how based on the shooting, percentages based on

828
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 6: the the way the first meeting, went and based on

829
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 6: the overall, pace it would take miraculous shooting numbers to

830
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 6: surpass this projected total of one forty and a. Half

831
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 6: So i'm gonna use this as my favorite play of the.

832
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 6: Episode here under one forty and a Half Tennessee Tech Western.

833
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 4: Illinois, NOW i swear we didn't play in This, christian

834
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: but we've come all the way around From Green Bay

835
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: basketball Talking Doug gottlieb and the guy here replaced an

836
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: all timer Name Sundance, wicks now the head coach At.

837
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 4: Wyoming you want to fade them On. Saturday talk me

838
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 4: through the projected number and where you'd play it.

839
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 3: To, yeah jumping a bit ahead To saturday.

840
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: Here So wyoming And Utah state played On, wednesday the twenty,

841
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: eighth and At, utestate one of the best environments in the.

842
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: Country you Tust a one ninety four to sixty.

843
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: Two and the important takeaway from this game is That

844
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: wyoming sat in this awful zone the entire, game And

845
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: utestate had it felt like fifty wide open corner threes

846
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: and you refuse to get out of the. Zone so

847
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: is there a chance That wyoming has a much better

848
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 2: defensive game plan this time after just kind of getting

849
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: smoked like? That, Maybe but watching that game you test

850
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: date is just on a completely other.

851
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: Level and the fact that they even opted to go.

852
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: Zone when they weren't comfortable with the zone shows you

853
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: that they were really scared about containing fall, SEVEN. Mj

854
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: collins and these guys in their standard. Defense so after

855
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: that thirty point, blowout there looks like they're going to

856
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: be laying around seven In.

857
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: LARAMIE i think you Test eate is just so.

858
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: Far ahead Of, wyoming AND i Think calhoun's boys are

859
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: going to go in there and get the road.

860
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 4: Win concerns about the additional three thousand feet of altitude

861
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 4: going From logan To.

862
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 5: Laradise is it that?

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