1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: M H. Welcome to the Favorites Podcast. I am Chad 2 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Milman from the Action Network. It is Wednesday, which can 3 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: only mean one day. We are going to bring it 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: in the bookmaker to the world from Boyd Gaming and 5 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: the Orleans, every Boyd Gaming outpost around the country. And 6 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: there's a surprise for everybody on the other side of 7 00:00:39,479 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: the intro music, So don't change the channel. The greatest 8 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: joy of my day is being able to look at 9 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Bob Scucci in the eyes as his intro music is played. 10 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm fairly certain he's tearing up a little bit. No, 11 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: that's just you know, it's hot in here, so like 12 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: glasses again, you need some windows, some window wipers for 13 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: your glasses. Bob Scucci is live and in person in 14 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: New York. It's great to see a buddy, great to 15 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: be here, great to finally see the digs here. And yeah, 16 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: we've upgraded I could yeah from the last time I 17 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: was here. This is great, really nice. And you get 18 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: to look at the hipster mats to meet your guys 19 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: in person the podcast. It's very exciting. I'm glad you're 20 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: here in New York. I'm sorry that it's too cold 21 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: for you. Man I know, how do people live in this? 22 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: It's not right. Today is like a decent day, decent 23 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: and the west today, Yeah, but it's the wind. It's 24 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: just I took too long walks today. Man. You can't 25 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: sit out in the courtyard smoking cigars. You do not 26 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: have that option here. You got to be indoors. You 27 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: will not be outside again for six months if you 28 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: live in New York. I was, you know, I was 29 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: waiting for you outside the building. I felt like ends 30 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: out of the Baker from the Godfather. He's waiting outside 31 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: the hospital. Put the collar up, put your hands in 32 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: your pockets, like you have a gun. Do you wanna 33 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: do you wanna tell people why you were waiting outside 34 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: instead of coming up to the eleventh floor. Man, Because 35 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: I hate elevators? What is that about? You get stuck 36 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: in one of those? Have you been stuck in elevate? 37 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: Been stuck in an elevator when a long time ago 38 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: in San Francisco and it was just had to be 39 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: the smallest elevator. You couldn't you couldn't sit down in it. 40 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: It was one of those old hotels, those boutique hotels, 41 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: and it fits maybe three people standing, and it just 42 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: it got got stuck and I'm and then it got 43 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: dark and just a horrible experience. How long were you 44 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: in there? It felt like days it was. It was 45 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: probably about maybe thirty minutes. Sorry for you. Yeah, so 46 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: when you told me you're on the eleventh floor, yeah, 47 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: you just responded, oh ship. And these elevators aren't so big, 48 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: by the way. These elevators are small and ancient. Hey, 49 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: last week was Thanksgiving, so you got you know, destroyed 50 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving Day because all the favorites covered. Uh Phil 51 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: and Tiger was the next day. And the numbers that 52 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: Bleacher Report is talking about, I feel like really big 53 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: numbers they're talking about, you know, you know huge. I 54 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: think they said something like, I don't know sto streams 55 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: at one point for the match, Um, what kind of 56 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: activity did you see? Betting activity or or just interest 57 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: in it? Both? Yeah, the I mean the interest was tremendous. 58 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean everybody was kind of waiting for it, and 59 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: you know they picked you know, the day after Thanksgiving, 60 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: which is a great spot, great time for it, kind 61 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: of in between a lot of the other action. But 62 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: as you know, the problem with the feed created an issue. 63 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: You know, we knew right away we weren't getting the 64 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: feed when we just see the black screen, and you know, 65 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: we're calling the distributors and everything. So people were getting anxious, 66 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 1: and some people were kind of leaving the casinos because 67 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: they wanted to see it. They wanted to see the 68 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 1: beginning of it. They wanted to see it from the start. 69 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: They yeah, they didn't want to wait and miss something 70 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: good at the beginning. So they all started scrambling to 71 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: find somewhere where they knew that it would be on. 72 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: And of course we got it up in time for 73 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: the start of it, but a lot of people didn't 74 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: didn't know that. But on the wagering side, remember it 75 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: was up for a long time, so we we got 76 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: quite a bit of uh of action on it, you know, 77 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: more than any other kind of similar type of UH. 78 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: I mean the last time there was something of this 79 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 1: magnitude with Tiger, just one on one with the Sergio Garcia. 80 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: We we drew quite a bit on that one, too, 81 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: but but this one was bigger. Um. Well, we'll see 82 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: the golf numbers, you know, the way that the gaming 83 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: numbers in the VET are broken out. Um, we could 84 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: kind of decipher and segment out that other category because 85 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: they don't list it in just golf. Golf is part 86 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: of you know, tennis and miscellaneous. So we'll see if 87 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: there's a spike in November for that other category and 88 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: just how much, and then we can kind of deduce 89 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: how much was bet on it. Why don't they break 90 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: out NFL from college football? Because it's how do you 91 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: do it? Has always been the question, like you better 92 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: Let's say you bet a hundred dollar parlay and you've 93 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: got an NFL team, college team, and let's say a 94 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: third team NHL. Is it thirty three dollars on each? 95 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: Is it a hundred on the first team, a hundred 96 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: on the last team. It's it's really difficult, and and 97 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: a lot of the systems that people use are are 98 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: all different, so you're getting different reporting from property to 99 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: property based on what kind of platform they have. UM. 100 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: I feel like this past weekend in the NFL things 101 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: started to turn themselves back into normalcy. You saw the 102 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: Bills win as big dogs, You saw the Broncos win, 103 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: you saw, um what else happened? Favorites covered some big 104 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: double digit favorites, So that covered the Chargers Chargers Ravens 105 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: against the Raiders, the three big, biggest points, breads, the 106 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: double digit favorites all covered. The only saving grace for 107 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 1: us really two games the Broncos, uh covering winning against 108 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: the Steelers, and uh the Dolphins covered the Dolphins because 109 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. That would have been better if they if 110 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: they won the game outright for us, because just to 111 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: kill some teaser. Has been great weekend for UCE. I mean, 112 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: it could have been a lot worse, particularly how it 113 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: let up with if if not for the brilliant bookmaking 114 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: you did. And I keep saying that, you know, some 115 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: of our best bookmaking. We lose some of the best 116 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: editing I've ever done. We're on the stories where we 117 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: got sued, and like, you really gotta look at it 118 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: from the perspective of we could have been sued for 119 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: so much more. You know, so if I hadn't been 120 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: on my editing game that day, right, Okay, you know 121 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: I heard it many times at the gaming I'm here 122 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: for the for the ice Sports Betting Conference, and I 123 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: heard all the bookmakers there. Tomorrow I'm speaking twice. Okay, 124 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: I'll try to look for you there. I'll be in 125 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: the green room. I'm not sure if you can get 126 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, make sure you get plenty of pancake. 127 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: You know they're taking pictures. Speaking twice, okay. I saw 128 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: there were so many bookmakers, both from Europe, Nevada, Jersey, 129 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: and all saying the same thing that a lot of 130 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: the loss is out of your control, but it doesn't 131 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: mean it's bad bookmaking. So they didn't go quite as 132 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: far as I did, saying that sometimes it's your best 133 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: bookmaking when you lose. But I wanted, I wanted to 134 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: get up on on stage and just kind of throw 135 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: that one in, and I, well, you know, I'm speaking 136 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: twice tomorrow, and so I feel like I'm going to 137 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: have the opportunity at some point to reference that losses 138 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: could be worse if bookmakers like Bob Scucci weren't so 139 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: good at their job. Make sure you attribute. You know, 140 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: that's something that journalists learned, right, You always have attribute, Okay, 141 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: I you know, I give attribution words to I don't 142 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: need to play jarized stuff, especially gems like that. Um 143 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: speaking of bookmaking, I feel like the New Orleans Saints 144 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: as seven or seven and a half point dogs at 145 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: home or on the road against the Cowboys. I immediately 146 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: saw that number, and as much as I hate betting 147 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: on the Cowboys. I saw that and thought, oh boy, 148 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a tough decision. Well, this feels 149 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: like the last four times that the Saints played. It's 150 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: like deja vu all over again. How many times do 151 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: we put up a gigantic number Saints on the road 152 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: and and I feel that the right play is the 153 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: home dog, and they just keep covering and covering and covering. 154 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: Don't cover by much. I mean the Falcons game, I 155 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: mean they were right there within striking distance, But every 156 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: week it's it's the same thing with the Saints. So, uh, 157 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: apparently we haven't lost enough on the Saints, so we're 158 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: gonna gonna number again. But I mean we we So 159 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: we put up behind number eight and a half, they 160 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: right away they take the eight and a half. It's 161 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: down seven and a half. And we know it's the 162 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: same pattern that you know the public is gonna be 163 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: on the Saints at about a ten to one clip 164 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: and the sharp guys will take the other side. But 165 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, how much do you take on? So if 166 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: I go back, if I go back to eight eight 167 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: and a half, how much do I take on the Cowboys? 168 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: And then finally have the cow, you know, the dog 169 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: cover and then give away what would have been a 170 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: good win. So we're not gonna do that. We're gonna 171 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna write it out. And just the other thing 172 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about in one of the two 173 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: times I speak at the conference tomorrow is um that bookmakers, 174 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: they're betters like you don't necessarily want to be even 175 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: like you want to have a little bit of it. 176 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: You want to have some action. No, well, first of all, 177 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: it's a myth to have perfect two way action. You'll 178 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: never get it. It's impossible. Especially the part that that 179 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: they always miss when they talk about two way action 180 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: is two way action at the same number. It's no good. 181 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: If you get, you know, a ton of money at 182 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: minus seven and a half and a ton of money 183 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: at plus eight and a half and have it land 184 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: on eight, what good is your two way action? But 185 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: but you don't even want to try and get two 186 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: way action because the best that you're gonna do is 187 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: win a very small margin. And that's not the goal 188 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: of the bookmaker. You know that the goal is to 189 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: win as much as you can and and increase those margins. 190 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: You know you're not gonna you're not gonna do it 191 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: trying to get two way action on every game. My 192 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: goal is a better you think would be to win 193 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: as much as I can. It's not. It's to have 194 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: as much fun as I can. Well, that's that's rare 195 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: among a lot, especially among the professional betters. You don't 196 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: see too many professional betters just like laughing it up 197 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: and saying, I'm just having I'm just Yeah, I win 198 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: some money, but I'm here for the drinks and the atmosphere. Yeah, 199 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: doesn't like to spend the afternoon inhaling at a sports book. Yeah, 200 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: it's the best, it really is. Please give me that 201 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: well vodka and the second hand smoke and a side 202 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: of a nickel on the bears. Yeah that sounds like 203 00:11:54,679 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: that our clientele. Yeah, that's so funny. That's so funny. Um. Alright, 204 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: So the wise guys were taking the Cowboys when it 205 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: was a big number. They're not taking it when it's 206 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: a smaller number. And you're gonna end up having to 207 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: eat something on Sunday when this line goes back up. Yeah, 208 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: but we'll I guarantee you we'll be the first one 209 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: to go up. I mean, we'll first one to go 210 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: to eight. First one to go to another because you're scared, 211 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: because we're quick to react aggressive like a cat. Like 212 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: a cat. That's what I think about when I think 213 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: of you, cat like reflexes. All right, well, here's an 214 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: interesting one. Baltimore Ravens. They opened his two and a 215 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: half point favorites. The Atlanta Falcons are now one point favorites. 216 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: A lot of money coming in on Atlanta. I liked 217 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: Atlanta in this game. I liked Atlanta. Um. I hate 218 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: saying because I hate the Falcons. Hate it. Yeah, what 219 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: am I gonna do here? I hate the Falcons too 220 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: after last week and they couldn't Oh my god, yeah, 221 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: so frustrating. I hate the Falcons. I mean this is 222 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: the spot form. I mean at home, they should just 223 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: win this game and getting you know, getting points. I 224 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: could see the value. But uh, look at look at 225 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens numbers each week increasing. Uh you know, the 226 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: the lines I'm talking about, the lines are getting bigger 227 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: and bigger when the rains the Ravens are playing. Um, 228 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: you look back at the Ravens Saints game and and 229 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: and how credible does that game look? Where it was 230 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: only a one point uh margin where they came up short. Um, so, 231 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: so now looking back at how good the Saints are, 232 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: that that really was a quality to loss. Uh and uh, 233 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: you know with Lamar Jackson, the guys like Ezekiel Elliott, 234 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: you know he's got about the same amount of USh 235 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: is in Yark just you look at his stats. So 236 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: it's like having having an extra thread out there how 237 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: far back when you look. So you can look now 238 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: and say the Ravens were a quality loss, but at 239 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: the time of the Saints were a quality loss. At 240 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: the time, we were also not necessarily given the Saints 241 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: a ton of credit for that win because if you remember, 242 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: we really thought that the Ravens was was a play 243 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: that day at home getting ye. So, but every week 244 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean that the Saints they keep like, like I said, 245 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: we're not We're not going to learn our lesson. We're 246 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: going to put up another number here that the public 247 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: is gonna lay and just just ride it out from 248 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: here on out. You didn't really answer my question, how 249 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: far back are we gonna look for every team or 250 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: just for the generally, like, what's your Well, if you 251 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: look at like I'm not going to go back to 252 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: Week one Saints, right, the Saints lost to the Bucks 253 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: in week one. You're not looking at week one and 254 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: being like, well, you know what, I think the Box 255 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: are better than we thought. Like the Saints were a 256 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: different team. I'm looking at key games, key games were 257 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: both teams feel I mean like where you feel like 258 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: this is a key game in the season. You look 259 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: to the schedule and there's just certain games where you're 260 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: looking for those key matchups, like like Rams and Chiefs. 261 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: You're looking for those games. Uh so, you know we're 262 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: not going to go back to necessarily to to week 263 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: one or two. No one gives the Bucks credit at 264 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: this point for beating the Saints. No, no, and and 265 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: and the Texans. I mean, we're not going to look 266 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: back to how they I mean they started oh in three, right, 267 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: that's your team. I love this team. I love this team. 268 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: I think the biggest problem with this team is that 269 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson holds the ball for way too long in 270 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: the pockets to learn them and that is going to 271 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: be a fatal flaw. Like you know, you can always tell, 272 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: like when teams losing the playoffs, they lose for the 273 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: things that sort of made them snake bit throughout the year. 274 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: And you watch that game last night and so many 275 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: times just on Watson was holding the ball for too long, 276 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: and like they're really talented teams, so to get away 277 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: with it. But um, you know, I also say, like 278 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: I look at that a f C conference right now, 279 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: and obviously the Patriots are great, the Chiefs are great. 280 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: But I don't know that the Steelers are any better 281 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: than the Texans. Like I think the Texans might be 282 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: the third best team in the conference. Yeah, you know, 283 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: people kind of look to their their schedule and say, okay, 284 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: well they didn't play anybody. But when you have that 285 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: many wins, eight wins in a row, you kid in 286 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: the NFL, I don't care who you're playing, that tells 287 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: you it's a good team. It's a discipline team. They're 288 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: great defense, and the key is the defense. Those guys 289 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:46,239 Speaker 1: stay healthy. Clowney J. J. Watt, those guys stay healthy. Merciless. 290 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: You know what he is? What is He's im merciless? Merciless? 291 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: Really is he? Why are you such a hack? I 292 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: knew where you were going. I wasn't gonna go there, 293 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: go there. Yeah, I wouldn't do that is such a cliche. Alright, 294 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I expected just to walk away from 295 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: the whole conversation. I think you're gonna come back. Um, 296 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: all right, Arizona is a fourteen point dog to the 297 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: reeling Green Bay Packers. This Cardinals team is strange because 298 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: there was a stint in the middle of the year 299 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 1: when Josh Rosen was taking over Sam Bradford, and then 300 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: the first couple of games after where it looked like 301 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: he can move the ball, and then all of a 302 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: sudden they seem to have forgotten what they were doing 303 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: and they can't do anything. But the Packers are bad, 304 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 1: and so what do I do with a fourteen point spread? 305 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: I mean, as a hand as a professional handicapper, you're 306 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: supposed to take it, but you know it hasn't been 307 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: really panning out the last a few weeks, so don't 308 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: want to do that. Some of the bad teams you 309 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: just have to at one point stay away from. So 310 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: you look back to, you know, the the year of 311 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: the Browns just law to every game and we kept saying, 312 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: you know, you have to keep playing them. This is 313 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: they're getting ten points and they're at home. You have 314 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: to play them. And they're getting fourteen at home and 315 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: you have to play them, and they're so you have 316 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: to stay with those things, as painful as it as 317 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: it is as a professional handicapper, but you know it 318 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: is painful. I mean, look at the Raiders. You look 319 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: at them, and you say, how can I keep betting 320 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: these teams? And I don't care how many points I'm 321 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm getting? But but yeah, this is talk about an 322 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: inflated line. It's deliberately inflated, knowing that the casual fan 323 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: is just gonna lay big points. That's it's a bet 324 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: against Arizona. It's not necessarily saying that the Packers are invincible. 325 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: It's just that the Cardinals are that bad. So we're 326 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: gonna make this line incredibly high. That the line really 327 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't be this high. I'm not gonna bet it. Well, 328 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna We're okay, don't like it? Don't like it? 329 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: Also like the Rams ten point favorites on the road 330 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: against the Lions. Yeah, and and here's a Rams team 331 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: that conversely, you know, you look at how the Saints 332 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: keep covering, covering covering. The Rams haven't been real strong 333 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: covering a lot of these spreads. And obviously the record 334 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: just straight up is is great. But I mean, these 335 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: big numbers is not in their wheelhouse. I mean they're 336 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: not running and because the defense and we talked about it, 337 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: they're letting team score points. So you know, Detroit, I 338 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: think Detroit scores scores a ton of points on them. 339 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: So I might bet this game. This might be one. Huh. Oh, boy, 340 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: Chad is making a bet. Oh. I get to see 341 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: what you actually do here. I'm covering them. Say now, 342 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm in the studio. I get to see the secret. 343 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: All right, you cannot see what I'm doing. I'm taking 344 00:19:54,480 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: my steam filled glasses and just covering them un barely 345 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: hot hair, is it not? Man, I don't know what 346 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: you mean that my ears are hot? Then I'm not 347 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: even wearing headphones. They turning red. Mmm. I know how 348 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: you guys deal with it. The freezing outside, it's hot inside. 349 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: Mines plus ten minus one, fifteen. At one particular book 350 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking at, yeah, came down, came down, and probably 351 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: it was eleven at one point. Yeah yeah, yeah, you 352 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: missed a bad number there, and then you missed missed 353 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: the best of the number. Well, let me check another spot, 354 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: see what's happening there. But I think my point is 355 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: you kind of in the middle of that conversation where 356 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: I first looked at it and thought of Matt Patricia. 357 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: Then you made me reconsider my position go against that 358 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: defense that pours defense. It's not a great defense, No, 359 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: it's you know, I thought it was a lot better 360 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: than what it turned out to be. They have nobody 361 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald is the only guy who can do 362 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: anything on that defensive line. Marcus Peters is awful disappointment 363 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: all the way around. Um hold on, I'm looking at 364 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: one more place right now, and I'm going to check 365 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: in with the guys getting the same number. Okay, just 366 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: checking in. It's not really professional to do that, scooch. 367 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: All right, I'm not making a bet right now. Let's 368 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: take it back. Reverse it. You know Hamilton's that, Just 369 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: reverse it, go from helpless and to satisfied. Have you 370 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: guys seen Hamilton's rewind? Come on, I am not going 371 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: to allegedly make a bet. That's the sound that it makes. 372 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: Uh Denver minus four and a half half at Cincinnati? 373 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: Is Andy Dalton playing? Are you comfortable posting a line 374 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: in this game right now? They don't. That's why I'm 375 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: going to call the Remember I'm not in the hub 376 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: right now now, So you're calling right now. I'll do 377 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: play by play right now. Scooches with me in the studio. 378 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: He has multiple cell phones and he's asking what do 379 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: we got in the Bengals. He's talking to his office 380 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: and and uh, what it is Dalton playing? Or what 381 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: do we have? Yes, the talk was playing. He's getting 382 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: an answer. He's sipping his coffee, he's smiling. This is 383 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: a big mike. Yeah, it's commenting in the mic. Okay, 384 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: so that's yeah, yeah, we got we got him out, 385 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: got him out. So you got him out and you 386 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: got the Bengals at plus four and a half, which 387 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: means to me, like there's like minimal impact on Andy 388 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: Dalton being out. They might have been three and a 389 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: half pretty much. So like all this to me, Thanks, Kevin, 390 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: stay in the line, standing the line, Kevin, don't hang up. 391 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: We need you, We need some action, Kevin. Um, here's 392 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: what this game is saying to me. No, Andy Dalton, 393 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: huge action disability, like you get the Is that a huge, 394 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: huge Ackson? It's like huge Ackson as I suspected for 395 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: the Browns game. Being on the sideline for the Bengals 396 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: game should downgrade the Bengals. Um and then Hugh Jackson 397 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: being on the side for the Bengals in the Browns 398 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: game being on the side for the Broncos game. I 399 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: think the cost of huge action should be three points. 400 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: We went the other way, Like, if this game was 401 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: gonna be maybe Bengals minus one and a half, now 402 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: it's minus four and a half without Dalton, should probably 403 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: be seven and a half with Hugh Jackson. Wow, that's 404 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: that's quite the Can you imagine, Like the guy couldn't 405 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: even like, yeah, that was your big that was your 406 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: big angle last week, didn't bet it, which was stupid. 407 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: We should have a section on just regrets. Yeah, oh 408 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: that'd be good. Yeah, yeah, Like I have a lot 409 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: of regrets in my life. You know, girl in high school, 410 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, things could have gone differently, didn't work out. Yeah, 411 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: I've been lucky in that regard the girl in high 412 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: school not betting the Browns. That's that's like, you know 413 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: the two things. Yeah, yeah, I agree. But now in 414 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: this case, you want to go higher than four and 415 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: a half, that's that's a little too much. Team stinks, stinkola. Yeah, 416 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: like you can put this team, you can take half 417 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: the players off the field for the Broncos. I might 418 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: actually go let me see. Hold on, we're calling Kevin, Kevin, 419 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: he's going to five? What what what's the what's the 420 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: ticket count on it? Yeah? Wow? Are there you once 421 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: you go to five? Stand in the line, Kevin Stanley. Okay, 422 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: but he said, we're not getting huge Action on the game. Huh, 423 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: I got no, I got I got I got it. 424 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Things are the jokes are so much funnier when you 425 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: have to explain them are In case everybody listening missed it, 426 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: Scoot said we're not getting huge Jackson on the game, 427 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: but he disguised it as huge action, little double tondrepressive, 428 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: But I got it. I'm going to pass on this one. 429 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I can put money on Jeff Friscoll. 430 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: That's the Bengals backup quarterback. Uh Houston minus five and 431 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: a half against Cleveland. Cleveland is getting a little bit 432 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: too much credit for beating the Bengals. This game should 433 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: be seven. You get Kevin on the phone, are we 434 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: make this? You change this number? Yeah? We're When I 435 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: hang on one second, Kevin, what do we at on on? Houston? 436 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: Why don't you put Kevin on speaker? Yeah? Yeah, I 437 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: might put you on speaker here in a minute. But 438 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: maybe Kevin should just be in the podcast. I think 439 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: we're going all right. I don't need you to be 440 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: a mouthpiece. Well I'm not. I can't see how many 441 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: I can't see how many tickets we have on the game. 442 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: From Kevin on speaker phone, don't light he said he 443 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be on the on the show. He's 444 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: doing other things. He's multi tasking. Don't be a coward. Okay, 445 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to be on the show, do you? Oh? 446 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't know about Kevin. Just be on the show. 447 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: No you don't. Yeah, all right, we embarrass him every week. Okay, 448 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: so you're moving the game. What are you moving to to? 449 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: I wish you hadn't done that because now other books 450 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: might move it. And I kind of want to bet 451 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: Houston at minus five, and it's the risk you run. 452 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: You know, you're a player. Here's the thing. Here's the 453 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: thing right now, Um that game. Nobody's here in the 454 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: podcast yet, although you moved it, that's true. That's hold on, 455 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: hold on, I can't find that game. Where's that game? 456 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we just talked about Houston. We talked about 457 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: how good they are and I agree, and I agree 458 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: with you. They are pretty good. Yeah, they're really good. 459 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: I think they're Like, although the flip side does that 460 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: mean why can't I find this game? I don't know. 461 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um the flip side is, are they 462 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: overvalued Houston? I don't think so. I like, like we said, 463 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: I think they're not getting probably enough credit because of 464 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: the strength of schedule, of the lack of strength of 465 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: their their schedule. But you remember how high everyone was 466 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: on this team before Deshaun Watson got hurt last year, 467 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: and it's as high as they were on them then 468 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: they're they're not quite as high on them anymore. But 469 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: that's the same team. That's the team that they thought. 470 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. They're better than that, and yet 471 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: people just forgot how much they were supporting them last year. So, 472 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: uh no, I think, by the way, you were late 473 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: getting a six. It's six all over town right now. 474 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: When we went to six and a half, shut up, Kevin, 475 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: Kevin did we go to six and a half? Six 476 00:28:53,960 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: and a half? All right? Now? It's a want it 477 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: in here? He just moved at a full point. Look 478 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: at that. You know what we do here? We influence 479 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: people do you think they think that the wise guys 480 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: will take it at six and a half? I'll find 481 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: out in a minute. I'll check back with you think 482 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: there'll be a flood. Why don't you just tell Kevin 483 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: if like something happens, just yell, yeah, hey if we 484 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: if we get any bets on Cleveland, let me know 485 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: is the phone are the phone's lighting up yet? Not yet? 486 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: All right? Thanks? Kevin doesn't like you? Kevin's getting piste. Yeah, 487 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: he is not a show pony to be tried it 488 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: out for your amusement. Um, okay, Buffalo at Miami Dolphins 489 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: minus five? What do you do with this Buffalo team? 490 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: That's the thing. I think you bet against him this 491 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: weekend because who they go back and forth? Because I 492 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: think they go back and forth, different game on the road, Tanna, 493 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: I had a really good game last week. Um, I 494 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: think Dolphins is anything less than a touchdown is probably 495 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: the play. Well, he is less than a touchdown, So 496 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I think we're gonna get 497 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: a lot of that. I'm I'm gonna gonna check the 498 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: check real quick. Kevin take account there? Yeah? Wow, pretty close? 499 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: And what what are we at okay, all right, thanks scretch. 500 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: We have like eight five games left. You're gonna need 501 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: to put Kevin on speakers so we don't have to 502 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: interrupt every time I have a question that you can't answer. 503 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: All right, I we went to five and a half 504 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: on the game, and but the ticket accounts dead even 505 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: on that, just dead even. You're gonna end up going higher. 506 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: IM telling you right now. You know five is that 507 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: no man's land? So yeah, yeah, it's people are gonna 508 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: lay that five. They'rena lay that five and a half. 509 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna get stuck into a spot where you're gonna 510 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: end up at six, six and a half. I think 511 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: the sharp guys are gonna take it. Yeah, it's too many. 512 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm not. You don't see two. You don't see a five, 513 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: five and a half go up to seven very often. 514 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: Usually see it come down if a team isn't if 515 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: we don't make them close to seven to begin with, 516 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: barring an injury, I see it going down. Lay it now, 517 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: don't patronize me or lay it later. No, I don't 518 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: believe it as much. I don't feel its strong. Indianapolis 519 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: is a four point favorite on the road against the 520 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: once mighty Jacksonville Jaguars. Uh, if I'm looking at this right, 521 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: this line open to two and a half, it's been 522 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: bed up to four. Our wise guys betting the Colts 523 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: that heavily, just because Cody Kessler and learned for Net 524 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: are out. So and boy, you know the last few weeks, 525 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's been Colts, Colts, Colts. The public has 526 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: been riding them. And we talked about it early on 527 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: in the season. Uh, we want once luck gets going 528 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: and this team, uh you know, gets their sea legs 529 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: under them and in which they have, and you're seeing 530 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: those pointspreads getting bigger and bigger each week. Uh. They 531 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 1: fell short last week against against the Dolphins, which kind 532 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: of saved our bacon a little it. But uh but no, 533 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: this this Colts team is just fast becoming that that 534 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: public team again. So um yeah. And and they're done 535 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: with Jacksonville. I mean, the public is just done with that. 536 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: I want nothing to do with them. Personnel changes doesn't matter. 537 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: That's not gonna sway any anyone into into having anything 538 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: to do with them. So it's just gonna be all 539 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: all Colts. It's such an interesting team, like they've lost 540 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: what seven in a row, they started three and one. Um, 541 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: the wheels fell off against the Chiefs like that was 542 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: sort of the end of the road for them. They 543 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: gave up a crapload of points. Blake Portals started looking 544 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: like Blake ports. They had four or five chances in 545 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: the red zone. I remember this game very specifically, blew 546 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: them all. Blake Bortles through an interception in the red 547 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: zone off of an offensive lineman's helmet and that was it. Yeah, 548 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: now then it was over. Y Um. They couldn't recover 549 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: from that. No, I mean there's a team that just 550 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: relied on their defense. I mean, look at how far 551 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: they went last year. And they were just saying that 552 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: Bortles was just you know, he was so close. They 553 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: were going to work on his arm because that's why 554 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: he's slinging it off guy's helmets, because he's like three 555 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: quarters almost throwing the throwing the ball side arm. They 556 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: were gonna work with him and that was going to 557 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: be the difference maker, and uh just went went the 558 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: other way. He just regressed. I believe they call that 559 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: an arm slot. So you got the technical terms, you know, 560 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: maybe making, but it's the truth. So yeah, this this 561 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: like that time in the podcast where you made up 562 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: the fact that, uh, the Saints were gonna trade for 563 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: Eli Apple and they were in competition with the Eagles, 564 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: and then it just had just happy right, Yeah, get lucky. 565 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just throw stuff out there, and you know, 566 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: sometimes it happens. Have the wise guys waiting on this game. 567 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: Yeah they're on the cold. I feel like I missed 568 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: the best of the number on that. Yeah you're done there, 569 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: Carolina three and a half at Tampa Bay. Wow, Yeah right. 570 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: I think I think the numbers right there. Um, the public, 571 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: the public has been on Panthers the last couple of weeks, 572 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: but that's with real short numbers. Laying anything more than 573 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: a field goal, they get a little they get a 574 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: little nervous. Um. So in this one, I think we're 575 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: gonna get pretty good, pretty good two way, probably just 576 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: a little heavier on the on the Panthers. I look 577 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: at these numbers lately, and normally I've got like a 578 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: really good read on which side I want to go with, 579 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: and I just this week is tough. I feel like 580 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking at sort of an unsolved puzzle where the 581 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: pieces are missing, do you know what I mean? I 582 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: don't know what to do in this Carolina game. No, 583 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 1: that's a that's a tough one. That's why I said, 584 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: I think we got the number right. So when it's 585 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: tough to really pick what side, uh that you like? 586 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: That means it's a pretty good According to the Action 587 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: Network gap, the free Action Network gap, sixty of the 588 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: money is coming in on Tampa Bay. Means the wise 589 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: guys are betting the Tampa Bay because the ticket account 590 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: is on Carolina, And that makes sense. Wise guys are 591 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: just betting the home dog, you know, getting getting a 592 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: little value at three and a half. Yeah, I guess so. 593 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: But that's gonna be pretty much a corner TV game. 594 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: All right. This next one, man, oh my god, you 595 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: are going to be sucking air on this game. Do 596 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: you know what came? I'm talking about Kansas City, Kansas 597 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: City point favorite on the Road Raiders. So let me 598 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: just tell you that people in Las Vegas they love 599 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: the Raiders the last couple of years for a couple 600 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: of reasons, one of them being that they're coming to 601 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: Las Vegas and they love him this year too. Only 602 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: they love him this year because they bet against him 603 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: every week and they win money every week. It's just 604 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: an automatic. They bet against the Raiders. It's you know, 605 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: local TV coverage, that's what they talk about, talk about 606 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: the Raiders, talk about the Raider games. Just one of 607 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: the games will be shown on TV, and it's just 608 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 1: bet against him. We can't make these points spreads high enough. 609 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: This one is another one. Like we talked about early, 610 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: You have to just bet the Raiders. You have to 611 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: take them as a as a professional handicapper. How many 612 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: professional better do you think are taking the Raiders right now? Kevin? Oh, 613 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: let me put them on you're there? How many professional 614 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: betters have taken the Raiders at plus fifteen? They took 615 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: fifteen and a half. Professional betters took fifteen and a 616 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: half right as we opened it. As soon as as 617 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: soon as we opened it, got it. If you're a 618 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: professional better, you have to take the Raiders. I can't 619 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,479 Speaker 1: wait to rename this podcast The Favorites with Chatt and Kevin. 620 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: Did Kevin hear that he's right here? Does Kevin listen 621 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: to the podcast? Does he know you're on a podcast? Kevin? 622 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: Do you know that I do a podcast? Already already 623 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: mentioned a few times? Does Kevin know who I am? 624 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: Does he know I'm famous? Do you know who this 625 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: guy is? Just from the podcast, I'm muting you all right, 626 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: So we know that there's at least one professional better 627 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: who took it a fifteen and a half and nobody 628 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: of fifteen New York Jets plus eight on the road 629 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: at Tennessee. They showed up on Sunday for a while. 630 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: If we if we could count the score after three quarters, 631 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: classid Josh McCown game good enough for three quarters? Yeah? 632 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I ironically I missed the end of it, 633 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: and I just you know, I had to call in 634 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: just to see how much we uh we lost, and 635 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: they said, uh, you know, the Jets were right there 636 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: at the end and they could have scored and they 637 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: came up short. I missed that, but thanks for telling me. 638 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: That just makes me feel so much better. Yeah. So, 639 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: but I just looked at the final score and that's all. 640 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 1: It's all you need to right the right side is said, Um, 641 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: I I think this line. I mean that the public 642 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: isn't necessarily going to lay that that big number. I 643 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: think we'll get some pretty good two way at that number. 644 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: There's still a lot of Jet supporters out there, just 645 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: the general public. I mean, um, I don't think the 646 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: Wise guys have laid uh have weighed in on this 647 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: one yet? To check with Kevin real quick, Kevin Wise guys, 648 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: the Jets, the Wise guys weigh in on this one. 649 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: If they took nine right away? It took nine? Yeah, okay, 650 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: all right, thank you? Yep, yeah, yeah, it's a big 651 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: it's a big number. It's it's a little too big. 652 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's on the high side. But no 653 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: one's bett eight. No one's Betton plus eight. No, No, 654 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bet that game. No, not allegedly betting 655 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: anything yet. Uh. Seattle minus nine and a half at 656 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: home against San Francisco. Boy, the Seahawks are just impressive. 657 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna yeah, they're gonna lay this one. And even 658 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: even when the Seahawks lose, they still draw some support 659 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: from the public betters the next week. It's not that 660 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: it's not like the public has been fickle with them. 661 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: They've been on them as as underdogs, as favorites. Uh. 662 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: They just ride it out with this team. So this 663 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: is gonna be another um, another game whether the public 664 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: is going to be on the on the Seahawks. So 665 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: we're deaf lee on the high side here. Um, if 666 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: you're if you're professional handicapper, you know you don't lay 667 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: that number. You take it. But they're not taking it. 668 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: Not yet. We're gonna have to inch up on this 669 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: one a little bit. But we're good right now. No, 670 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: do we still do we had through the horn, I 671 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: didn't have the headphone. We've done the horn. Yea, we're 672 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: doing that alright. Uh, here's the game. I like might 673 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: have to allegedly bet this New England minus five against Minnesota. 674 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: I like the vikings here. Well, yeah, everyone, did you 675 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 1: know we we went really hot on the high side 676 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: here and they took the Vikings right away? What did 677 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: you open? A? Wow? See I can't knowing the seven 678 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: was out there. I can't bet minus five plus five? Yeah, 679 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: because you missed it. I missed on principal. You can't. 680 00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: You can't take it. Suck. Well, we'll still we'll still 681 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: get plenty of patriot mind. This will creep back up, 682 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: but you won't get that. You won't get seven. Where 683 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: do you think I'll get it at you'll get you'll 684 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: get six six and a half. Maybe I'll take six 685 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: and a half, you'll take six and a half. I 686 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: would do that. Um, But you know, a lot of 687 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: a lot of value on this one. I mean, I 688 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: hate saying it, but you know how many times have 689 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: we gone against the Patriots. You go against the Patriots. 690 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: But this weekend I was on the Patriots that like 691 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: minus a hundred and I still won the bet, you 692 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, and like they didn't they 693 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: didn't play well even and still covered. I still covered. 694 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: But now you're gonna go against them. Well, I think 695 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: Minnesota's a better team than the Jet Yeah, yeah, for sure. 696 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: Kirk Coffins Cousins is having just a ridiculous, ridiculously good year. Um. 697 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: And I think their defense is really good and I 698 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: think the Patriots defense is not so good. I think 699 00:41:54,640 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: you're right. I'm waiting, though, I'm waiting even there right now. Yeah, 700 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: sixty what well of the money is on Minnesota seventy 701 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: three of the tickets around New England. That's that's why 702 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: I said the public will drive that number up. The 703 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: bigger money is going to be on the on the 704 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: Vikings because we deliberately went on the high side. I'm 705 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: gonna hold that powder. The late move is the correct move. 706 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: So if the late move ends up being uh, the 707 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: line goes up to six and a half and stays there. 708 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: Does that mean the right move is to bet on 709 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots manus five? I mean if you just do 710 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 1: some analysis and you look at a lot of those 711 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: moves on Sunday morning, the two hours before kickoff, most 712 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: of the time those are the that's the right side. 713 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to do some analysis on that. We would 714 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: actually network have something called bet labs and um actually 715 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: networks where I work, and um we've out a free 716 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: app you can download it and uh bet labs like 717 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: has access to all this data over the past twenty 718 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: years where we can analyze everything like from whether patterns 719 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: to point spreads to you know, home and away all 720 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. How far back it's pretty good? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Um, 721 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: you don't want to go too far back. You want 722 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: it to be real, you want to be relevant. No, 723 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: I get it. Uh So I'm gonna do a little 724 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: The late move is I'm going to create a late move. 725 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: Is the correct move system? How do teams do in 726 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: the last two hours? How do bets in the last 727 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: two hours do moving in one direction or the other? Okay, Um, 728 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: I'll tell you how it goes because you might want 729 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: to just break it down a little bit more. I'm 730 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: just thinking about this half A point may not make it. 731 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: It has to be a significant move for it to be. 732 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: What's defined significant, I think more than I think probably 733 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: more than a point point in a half unless it's 734 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: unless it's like at three. I mean, like we talked 735 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: about before, going from three to three and a half, 736 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 1: it's probably more more significant than going from eleven and 737 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 1: a half to I can test it in the host 738 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: of the ways. I can be like, gimme line moves 739 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: in the last two hours before kickoff. How do teams 740 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: do when the line moves from three to three and 741 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: a half? And then how do I how do teams 742 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: do when they moves from five to seven? You know 743 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: that's what you should do. What is Kevin? Think? Kevin? 744 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: Okay with that? Kevin? You're there? Think you like that? 745 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: You like that analysis. He's working, He's Kevin's busy. He's 746 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: treating it honestly, he's treating the podcast the way you 747 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: treat the podcast. Thanks Kevin. Uh Los Angeles Chargers plus 748 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 1: three and a half against the Pittsburgh Steelers at Pittsburgh. 749 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: This is that hook. That hook is like bait. It 750 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 1: is trying to to to capture itself in my cheek, 751 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: the professional better has to take the three and a half. 752 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: We are just like last week, that was the game 753 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: that's that bailed this out was against the Broncos and 754 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: we needed them just to save our day. Uh, this 755 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: will be a little bit different case. It will be 756 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: the late game, which is always a much bigger game 757 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: for us. It's the bailout game. And so we know 758 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: that there's gonna be plenty of Parley money on on 759 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: on Pittsburgh. But when you have two real good teams 760 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: and one of them is getting more than three points, 761 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: the same segment of the general public, they flip it 762 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: and they bet they take the Yeah. Yeah, so any 763 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: any big game now, you know when the Yankees and 764 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: Red Sox are always if they're both good and one 765 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: of them is getting plus a dollar fifty, they'll take 766 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 1: the dog. It doesn't matter who will. Is that because 767 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: the public getting smarter? Yeah yeah, and they they look 768 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: the public is looking at value now which they've never 769 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: done before. So in national championship games, college now championship games, automatically, 770 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: if a team was laying three and a half four points, 771 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: we'd get money on the favorite. Now it's like, Okay, 772 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 1: well Clemson's playing Alabama, why don't They're both good enough 773 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: to get here. I'm taking the dog with points, you know, 774 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: and they have a probably good a good shot to 775 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 1: win the game. Out Right, We're getting more of that 776 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: than we've ever gone before. I'm not saying it's still 777 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: more than the people that are laying the favorite, but 778 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: we're getting more dog money in big games than we've 779 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: ever gotten in the past. You know why, people are 780 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: getting smarter because of the shows like like yours. It's 781 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: only taken about seven years, but finally yeah. Yeah. The 782 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: last game of the night is the Monday and night 783 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 1: football game between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Washington Redskins. 784 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:55,399 Speaker 1: The Eagles are six and a half point favorites. Yeah, 785 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: this is this is a tough one Monday night game. Uh, 786 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: talking about people laying favorites. Any time you're you're close 787 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: to those key numbers threes and sevens, if you're at 788 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: six and a half, we know the public is gonna 789 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: lay that number. Um, so we're gonna we're gonna end 790 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: up needing the Redskins on this one. Um, Philly's disappointed 791 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 1: most of the betters most of the most of the year. Um, 792 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: so that's kind of slowed them down a little bit. 793 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: But on a Monday night game, laying laying six and 794 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,399 Speaker 1: a half, where they're gonna be. They're gonna be all 795 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: over the Eagles on this one. So I think the 796 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: wise guys will probably take Washington. So if anything, this 797 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: line comes down, uh, you know what it's time for 798 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: I think. So how you're doing scoutule that last week, 799 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: Matt for well, I know who? I had the Falcons 800 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving? You lost? Yeah, Chad had the Steelers, but 801 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday he decided he wanted the Broncos. So can 802 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: I change it? What? Oh? You know what? On Thursday 803 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: when I woke up, I really wanted to Saint right, 804 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah I did. So you can change it if you want, 805 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: go with what your heart does tells you. I'm gonna Hey, Kevin, 806 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,720 Speaker 1: I want you to think about this. Look at the schedule, 807 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: and if I had to put a gun in your 808 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 1: head to play one game, I want that game. Hold on, 809 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: hold on, don't tell me. Hold on, Let's play some music. 810 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: Let's play some scuture that We're the best produced podcast 811 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: on the airwaves. Like if there were a podcast award 812 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: for how the host manages the traffic on the show, 813 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 1: I feel like I would totally win that award. Don't 814 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 1: you think so professional? Is Kevin answering? What's happening? We read? Yeah, 815 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: we're ready, Kevin? Who do you got the King Vikings? Wow? 816 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: Plus five? I think we're at five and five and 817 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: a half? Whatnot? Are you getting a good number? Oh yeah, 818 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: we're the only five and a half out there. There 819 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: you go, halfs, there you go. I like it. I 820 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: like it a lot, alright, I like, uh, nice job, Kevin. 821 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 1: He killed it today. I'm gonna take the Detroit Rock 822 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: City Lions plus ten. I guess the Los Angeles Rams. 823 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:34,800 Speaker 1: I do like it too. That is some sharp betting, folks. 824 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: This has been the favorites from the Action Network. 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