WEBVTT - Ep. 106: Gladesmen 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:13.600 This is me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:18.560 fog bitten, and in my case, underwear listening podcast. You 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:33.919 can't predict anything. I have reasons why I think it's 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:39.720 best if you can. That's gonna stick with me. Don't 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.880 throw that out there right before the podcast. But you want, 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:43.519 you want to know why I think it's best if 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:52.680 you can. Okay, I have a theory about it. Um, yeah, 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:54.680 I have a theory about why it's good. I put 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.480 my theory to Rogan, and Rogan thinks it's good because 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:02.480 he thinks people to talk over each other less. It 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:04.880 makes it hard to talk over someone else. You know, 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.360 if you go out to dinner, like you and your 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.840 lady and another dude and his lady at various times 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.760 through dinner, it's like, for whatever, there's like two conversations 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.160 going on, like you're talking to his wife and then 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.759 you're talking to your body, and you know, you get 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:24.280 less of that effect. You seem to just listen to podcasts. 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:26.520 You do a good job of people not doing that 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.399 that it's one at a time, it's not. I mean, 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.040 do you do you see that as a challenge or 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:35.600 is that just a normal conversation like you said, people 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:39.240 do that. Well, it's like it's it's like a comment, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:43.280 what are you doing? How does it justin levels um 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:50.120 two figures? Yeah, it just has it's like a normal chat, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.120 but it's there's like a little bit of discipline to it, 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:57.440 you know. Yeah, imposing the discipline. I cannot believe you 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.520 guys do this every week for every couple of fifty 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.400 two a year. We do them, and usually we do uh. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.600 Sometimes we'll sit down and we'll sometimes we'll take a 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:11.320 couple of days and do three or four. We're ready 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.560 whenever you are, m m. Yeah, we've released I think 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.040 a hundred two or a hundred three of them. That 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.519 is crazy. Did you listen to the meat tree ones? 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:26.040 Both mere to listen to permissions? I've made major changes. Yeah, 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:31.280 that made major changes in my life. Well, uh, Kenyan 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.079 is going to be a pig and ship pig and 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.760 mud you know. I think to go and look at 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:42.040 your place because he's full of like little ideas about deer. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.760 He is, and I think that he is going to 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.160 see the potential I mean, and he's going to see 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.760 the ability to um that there are big areas that 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.959 are just unencumbered. No one you know that part when 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:56.760 he when he asked me, like you did, what does 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.640 that mean? Like that that you've never been in there? 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.400 I'm like, I physically have never been in there. And 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:02.920 it's big. I mean it's a big I mean a 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:04.880 hundred acres. I've never been and no one goes in. 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.000 And the difference between um Mark and Doug is a 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:12.640 Doug sort of grounded in reality, where Doug like looks 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.880 at properties that need to turn profits. So Doug's got 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:22.959 like agriculture, forestry. Kenyan's perspective is like how are we 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:26.119 gonna make big giant bucks? It is and we had that, 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.919 We had that dust. So Doug came and spent a 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.799 day and a half and came around. He was very 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.639 nice about some things we've done, things we we did 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.080 do better, and uh um, He's like, what's your goal? 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:39.840 And I you know, I just I said, you know, 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.920 you would like to hold deer And then he got 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.600 into the conversation about the neighbors, you know, shooting the 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.280 deer and not doing it and what bothers you and 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.400 the same thing. I went down that path immediately too. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.160 He's like, alright, time out. You know they're gonna move 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.880 through here, and he actually, I really mean this. He 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:59.920 actually convinced me to have a better attitude about it, well, 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.520 that it's just gonna happen, don't get hung up on it. 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:08.000 He legitimately convinced me those guys who own yettie coolers, Yeah, 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.680 I mean, their places unbelievable, and they're like pride themselves. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.880 And it's not fence and everything down there's fence, you know, 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.200 and they won't fence it. But they got one neighbors. 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.640 It's one group of neighbors that shoots there, that shoots 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.279 there deer, which is not how the state views it. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.280 But um so it's there. Probably is not fence, they 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:32.120 point out, it's just got offense because they fenced one 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:38.440 property line South Texas or one they fenced one line 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:42.919 on it. Okay, because everybody else's pride seems similar because 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.520 these guys post up on the These guys perch up 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:52.800 all along that property line. Dad part you know, I've 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.800 heard us. I told us to Mark that, you know, 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.200 the neighbors, the work we've done unforced and everything that 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.279 they called. You know, we've created a dear fat actory. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.560 So they post up a lot of them. You see 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.320 a lot of stands just on the other side. I mean, 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.279 and they will because you can bait in Michigan. They'll 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:12.640 put certain you know, food items out there that I 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.440 don't have on my property. You know. Now, they'll do 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:19.080 a pile of apples. I don't have apples, and they'll 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.080 I mean they, you know, during certain times of the year, 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.000 they'll pull deer. I mean, so they I mean, and 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.080 it's funny. I was telling that to Mark. They've got 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.719 tricks and they literally, you know, they know the area 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.400 where I've logged, and and and they the transition areas 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:38.919 and show you to put something, put something not toxic 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.520 but just to taste like ship all over their bait piles. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.800 Human hair. That human hair. Yeah, human hair is a 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.640 good one. People do that, go to a barber shop 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.599 and sprinkling along. Have you heard that. I haven't heard 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.600 that will keep deer way That that human hair. I've 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.400 heard to do that like a little tufts of human 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.680 people's hair in my mouth. No phone not saying you 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.960 need it for the No. Yeah, I'm down with it. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:07.800 Um alright, ready, ready, okay, first thing we're gonna do today. Uh. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:14.479 Everyone introduced themselves as though dealing poker so, um, we'll 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:19.840 start with nice all right, let me honest. I'm here today, Um, 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.360 just coming off a big, big morning and being all 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:30.320 seasick like man, short morning, lost a enormous amount of 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.760 respect for your honest today. Then going down, Mr Cook, 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:42.320 Matt Cook from Chicago, Illinois, and you're you're having what 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.400 I'm just trying to set the scene. What's in your cup? There? 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:48.480 Your glass? Um, I have a youngling beer, South Florida. 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.440 So you poured a beer into that glass. I thought 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.240 you were having some sort of large glass of bourbon 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:58.720 or something. No, No, it's South Florida style. Okay, moving along, 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.040 Josh right from South Florida. I'm drinking by light and 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:08.520 the can and the can Josh bright right, spell it 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:14.520 you guys. And then Ryan, Yeah, but tell him your name, 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:18.760 Bryan Tubbs, South Florida, South Florida, drunken by light from 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:23.080 a can. Before we start, you guys are single, like 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:28.440 not married? Yeah? Girlfriends Okay. So we've had good luck 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:35.000 in the past by pointing out people's singleness because then, um, 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:39.240 female listeners, all five of them will know no, because 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.240 there's a lot more that. Because we used to talk 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:42.880 about the lack of them, and then they point out 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.080 that that they are out there. Female listeners knowing now 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.280 that you're out there right and that you're single, will 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:53.080 come and find you. I have heard that this happens 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.040 from a man whose initials are B B. You know 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:04.320 what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter. I don't so 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.040 uh Yannae, explain you're explain. I want to start out 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.240 with you. Explain your morning. So do your state of 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:16.720 your state of being in mind this morning? But when 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:20.160 I when my state of being in mind went south? Yeah, 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.520 like just your little problem, you're a little problem. Well 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.120 we went Can I tell what we were doing that 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:29.920 made it happen? So? Yeah, So we went fishing with 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:37.400 Ryan and uh Ran. How far do we go? Eighteen 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:43.200 twenty miles offshore from so you're not so Ryan, You're 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.600 not so possessive about your spot. So we can say 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.080 we were fifteen to eighteen miles off b town, doesn't matter. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.080 Way out, way out, pretty far out. It took us 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:57.160 a while to get there. It was rough on my 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.319 scale of you know, calm and rough seas. It was 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.520 rough out there. Would you do what you mean? We're running? 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:06.000 Did you think it was rough? Very choppy. Yeah. Rough 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:07.959 rough would be a good word for it. Not like, 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.079 oh my god, the bolt's gonna flip, but like just 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:14.400 annoyingly rough rough from a lot of different directions. Yeah, 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.360 So we ran for at least it was at least 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.679 an hour right on the way out. Um, then we 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:24.720 finally got to the spot, started rigging up, and we're 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.679 fishing with the fella named Nick. Um. I guess you 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.199 call like the first mate in that situation, right, and um, 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.760 he got everything in the water quickly, I'd say, just 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:39.160 about the time that mate got down to feet, I 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:43.280 was like, oh, man, here we go. So this happened 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.160 to just like just like you spend enough time with 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:47.719 a guy and you sort of get a sense of 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.520 how they handle situations, and just to see him just 0:09:52.480 --> 0:10:01.079 like not just staring off into space. Man. Yeah, we're 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.080 bringing up a sword fish and he can't even look 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.199 over in the direction of the rod. That was the 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.920 second one. Yeah, I was like, yeah, I saw that 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.599 first one coming in. No, so I swear I was 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.559 looking towards the shore. You can still see just a 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:18.160 few buildings, you know, at that distance, and uh, when 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.640 I would turn the other direction and look at that rod, 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:22.440 and where the action was. It was just like those 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.800 swells were just right behind the rod, and every time 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.520 I see one of those swells roll, I mean that's 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.400 all it takes, you know. Yeah, it didn't make me 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:34.439 like hate you. It made me Um, there was some 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.760 of that, but mostly it made me just pity you. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.920 And I felt bad for you, but teings with a 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:45.200 little bit of disgust. Yeah, I was that we need 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.240 to go in as soon as I got sick, and 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.959 maybe you hate me no more pity and my and 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:53.880 I got in such a better mood once he once 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:55.800 he started getting better, you kind of like had a 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.480 little bit of a throw up but not really and 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.640 felt a little better. No, I finally, you know, because 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.480 you're wrong through all these things in your head. Like 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.880 even Ryan's like, you know, you want to have a 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:05.840 dip that don't make you throw Hope you'll feel better, 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.880 you know. I was like, yeah, I already thought about that, 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.199 but like that's too hardcore. I don't really need to 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:14.360 start chewning again, um, just for this. But then I'm 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.680 thinking about how ron Lane told us about the salt water, 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:18.520 Like I wonder if I could just pound a glass 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.880 of salt water and cure myself forever. And then, uh, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.440 I said, you know, you're just being a little bit. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.720 You just need to throw up. So I just jammed 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.320 my finger, my whole hand as far as I could 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:33.280 into my yeah, because I was like, you know, you're 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.679 just like you're close, You're close, You're close, and eventually 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.600 you're just like, dude, you know it's gonna be better 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.120 once you get it over with. And as soon as 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:40.960 I did it, it's amazing. I mean, but I only 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.439 got like ten fifteen minutes out of feeling better and 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.040 then it's sort of sunk back down again. But anyways, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.680 that's a little sick that's get hit by a mosquito. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.120 So we just uh that was just a quick teaser 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.599 into something we're out in. I describe how do you 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.120 describe we're at right now? I mean we're out in 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.920 a stilt house like like a check said, pilings out 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:04.400 in the on the Glades. That's an up and coming 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.480 uh you know, luxury home on stilts. Um. No, it's 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.480 more of a shock. Uh. Six miles into the Everglades 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.400 off of just west of Boca and for Lauderdale and 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.280 a handful of these old places out here and they 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:22.800 they were grandfathered in under some kind of land management plan. Yeah, 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.880 there's in this area. It's a state area. There's about 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:31.280 fifteen of different you know, uh you know levels of complexity. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.960 Some are falling down in summer, you know, a little 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:37.959 newer and have been remodeled. Um, they are leases that 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.120 with the state and so um, everyone out here just 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:45.400 got their leases renewed. So good for how many years? 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:52.760 I think it's oh so they could feasibly you could 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.560 burn it had the parents placed down in two years. 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.079 It's a twenty or goal still you know it is 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:06.960 twenty incremental more years. So you're breathing easy. We're breathing easy. Absolutely. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.160 But they've been Um, they've been around for I think 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:14.360 since they and they were his history said a lot 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.199 of people said they were hippie communes at one time. 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.080 A lot of people have over the years hidden out 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.839 out here fugitives. You hear all kinds of stories. But 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.840 what they are now is just for people that enjoy 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:30.679 the Everglades, airboating, etcetera. Yeah, like kind of like you 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.280 get the sense and just from conversations with with your 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:34.959 your friends here is that you get the sense of 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:39.160 people now buy these more like as beer drinking locations. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.880 It's that's part of like a social aspect to it. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:47.560 Even though it's good duck hunting, frog gig and bow 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.040 fish and alligator hunting, it's not much different than like 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.200 a cabin in the north Woods where supposedly you're going 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.959 there to you know, hunt deer for a whole weeken. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.319 Some people do that, but a lot of people go 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.240 out there and drink beer drinking purposes. You know what 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.200 it's been described. Someone told me a couple of years ago. 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.480 It's a lifestyle. There's several locals that these don't change 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:13.480 hands very often, so um, you believe it or not, 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.920 it's it's somewhat selective the people that have them, and 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.400 so it's a lifestyle. People come out on the weekends. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.880 They very often handed down from one generation to the next. 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.760 So um, there's a lot of pride in this area 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.240 and that the people that have been around for a 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.920 long time. Yeah, it's it's almost like a little subculture 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:36.720 in South Florida. You know, you go three miles east 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.480 of here and go into town and nine of the 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:43.520 people don't even know it exists, you know. Um, I 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.440 mean they don't know that there's these little ships. Yeah, 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.720 they don't they don't know, you know, they know the 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:49.680 Everglades are here, in the air boats are here. You know. 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.400 Obviously you guys come in and seeing the people at 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.400 the at the law at the land we call it 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.240 the landing. You know, you see people there watching the sunset, gators, 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.000 you know, birds et cetera, w walking on the levies. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.840 But they don't really know all of what exists. You know, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.920 there is you know, you have some tour boats you 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.360 know that come out and people do see it from that, 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.120 you know, they'll ride them by, they'll see it, but 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:13.800 they see it from a distance and don't really know 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.320 the whole story of them and really what's gone down here. Um, 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.280 it's like when Ryan takes you to see a plane 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:26.400 wreck pretty much and they're like, what happened? I don't 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:30.560 know when to heaven? Don't know? Yeah, I mean that's 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.520 you know, but I can tell you to happen, you know, 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:38.240 And that's kind of what the you know, a little 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.480 special part of it about is out here is it's 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:44.840 you know, having the select you know, the the opportunity 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.040 to do it, you know, and have the camps and 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:53.120 you know, it's something that's very small percent that actually 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.960 come here and sit where we're sitting right now doing 0:15:56.040 --> 0:16:00.760 what we're doing. Yeah. I had talked to at Um, 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.920 you know, are are one of our special guests here, 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.720 Matt Cook, some months ago, and you always kind of 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.840 like mentioned the camp in the Everglades and mentioned frog gigging. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.760 But I didn't really with all the respect, I didn't 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.840 pay that much attention. I mean, he showed me a picture, 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:19.600 but it didn't really like it didn't. I didn't have it. 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.960 I didn't have a good frame of reference to picture it. 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:26.120 So we land. We finally agree like, yes, this is 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.720 something we should come down and check out. And we 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.960 flew into Fort Lauderdale and it's not far, I mean 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.600 very short, Like what's the drive from Fort Lauderdale to 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:39.640 the launch minutes? So like, yeah, you'd be in a 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:45.320 big airport right direct flight from the West coast, Uh yeah, 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.400 direct flight from the Pacific Ocean landing Fort Lauderdale, and 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.040 twenty minutes you had a boat launch. And the first 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.120 impression I have coming out here is this is the 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.560 only place I've ever been where people leave their trailer 0:16:55.680 --> 0:17:01.280 in the water. Like I'm telling you, I don't know, 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.760 like it is customary around the country and I have 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.119 explored it extensively to launch your boat and then and 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.600 then drive your trailer up and park it somewhere on 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:16.120 dry ground. Yeah, but pure people are like they back 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.040 it down, dry their boat off, and they're like, you know, 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:23.560 they're going away overnight. It's like, perfect, I'll just leave 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.119 it right here, Just leap it right here, because this 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.480 way it's ready for me when I come back. That's 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.720 probably a function of the air boat, right, you can 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:33.800 leave the hubs out of the water. Yeah, I mean 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.600 obviously you want to leave your hubs out of the water, 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.680 keep keep your barings in good shape. But um down here, 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:41.600 you know the way we part you know, putting the 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.800 boats in the water. You know that's in this area. 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:46.600 A lot of the parts of the state where the 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.879 air boat you actually dry launch your boat. You have to, 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:55.200 you know, it's that's pretty red neck kicking reverse floor 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.760 it smashed the break and dump the boat off the trail. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:00.920 You drop it off on the ground because there's not 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.520 like a you know, we got a nice little incline 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.680 where we can back in. You know other places that 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.879 we air boat, we're legitimately drop on our boat in 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.760 a field more or less, and that's what you got, 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.440 you know, you just drop it off on the ground, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.160 drive off little airboat trail and go through the marsh. Yeah. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.480 So we get in and we take off in the 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.560 air boats and uh, you guys don't run with you 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:29.440 guys don't run with lights normally because the way the 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.720 moon is, I don't know if it has to do 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.200 with whether it's throwing moonlight or not. But like you 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.720 get the whole swamp which is just black, but the 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:41.200 creek or the drainages and the trails look like aluminum foil, 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.480 like strips of aluminum foil and the light and you 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:48.800 just run. You can see everything perfectly clear and there's 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:53.000 nothing to hit rocks because there's no trees and no rocks. Yeah, 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.000 there there is some trees. You gotta know where they're at. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.520 There are some there's some stumps. There's some willow stumps, 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.600 willow beds, you know that kind of stuff. Went. We 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.640 we've we've found them before. Yeah. And it's interesting about 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.760 running the airboat too, is there's no prop Yeah, no 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.360 underwater Yeah, no, your your prop is you know, it's 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.200 an airplane engine, you know, with a prop up on 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.720 top of the hall and you have a rudder and 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.640 without basically the difference in a outboard boat something where 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.639 you gotta skegg down your only power. You know, the 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:25.840 way to turn it is with power. You know, you 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:27.920 got a rudder that's direct and air. When you lift 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:32.680 off the gas, then you have no you have no control. 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.159 So that's why you notice when we're driving, we're on 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:37.360 and off the gas. You know a lot, a lot, 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.480 you know, and you can run stuff over without naming it. Yeah, 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.919 because we would have killed if we had a problem 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.840 in the water. Yeah there manate he friendly. Yeah, it's 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.000 like just like skim right over like the alligators just 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.360 kind of like moving under the boat. And it took 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.000 me a minute because at first I'm used to, like 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:57.280 when you hit something with a with a normal skiff 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:00.720 or whatever, I'm used to that, you know, noise of 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.600 the prop. Yeah, we're here. It's just like you just 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:07.840 like grease right over everything. And you ride out here 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:09.720 at the camp and the camps like up on pilings 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.639 is what you guys call him. Yeah, yeah, and you 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.479 just pull the airboat up and you guys put your 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.520 seats on them way up high, so you're up looking 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.040 I'm presuming right, so you can see over the grass. Right. Yeah, 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:23.760 that's a you know, and like I said, you know, 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.879 as far as like going back to like the culture 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:31.040 of the airboating, that's a Southern Glades where we ride 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.560 Everglades style because we like to be up high in 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.520 the grasstyle. Yeah, you go up further up to the 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:38.720 state and they'll you'll tend to see the boats down 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.840 lower their center of gravity because you'll see more of 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:43.840 like a ride boat was what we call, you know, 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.720 we build more of a hunt style boat. Oh you 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:48.359 know so because you guys are saying you run a 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:53.320 palm beach style hole. Yeah, in the Everglades style seat. Yeah, 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:56.480 it's well, it's all you know, it's a the palm 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.280 beat style kind of goes back to, you know, in 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.119 the Everglade. It's you know, going way back into the 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.840 you know, early seventies sixties when guys were building them, 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.639 getting in the hot, rotting them up, building you know, 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:12.280 hunting boats. They built the brought the rigging up and 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:15.960 then the hall itself is a palm beach style boat, 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:20.160 you know, um, which is how the hall is designed 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.359 with the round china you know, the boats actually round 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:26.040 in the bottom, you know, where you have what they 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:27.960 call like a sled style boat has more of a 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:33.040 flat side, wider bottom, tends to do better with water, 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:37.680 you know, shallower grass. Our boats, going back to the 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:41.080 palm beach style hall that we're running, they tend to 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:44.520 do better on the dry ground. And the thickers, you know, 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:47.840 in the thicker stuff. You know, they designed to go 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:51.639 where everybody else don't go. Yeah there, it's like a 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.240 it's like a sled but best thing you can you know, 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:57.640 compared as a sled boat too faster, like a hot 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:00.000 rod style boat. Our boats more like a four wheel 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.720 drive style boat. When did the airbords, like, do you 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:04.600 know the history of air bolls, Like, when did airbors 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:07.480 become a thing? M I mean, I couldn't tell you 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:09.760 they you know, to the year, but I would say 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:15.600 developing into what they are what we have now. Fifties 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.560 sixties they started getting into you know, years ago they 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:22.720 a four cylinder you know, airplane motor. They used to 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:26.879 run them, no battery, gravity fed fuel tank. You know, 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.760 they put the fuel tank up above the motor. And 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:30.840 they never rent. They didn't run batteries, none of that, 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:34.080 and they hand propped everything. You know. Then started in 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:37.520 the old airplane days with yellow contact and yeah, you know, 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:41.239 magneto hand profit and that's how they went, you know now, 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:43.200 and then they started getting in I would say, in 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:47.919 the your sixties, uh seventies, you really start getting popular 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:51.959 into the six cylinder motors building, you know, fancying them 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.800 up a little bit, uh you know, and now they're 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:58.879 going all the way to ls you know, all aluminum 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.840 ls car motors with superchargers and gear reduction and dude 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.200 like hot rods. Now, yeah, fueling electronic fuel injection. You know, 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:09.120 we're we're still we're we're it's starting to become considered 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.400 old school the way our boats are built. And you're saying, 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:16.159 there was a time when guys around here would run 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.359 whatever kind of airboat, and then the boys from Palm 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.520 Beach had roll into town and people are like, holy 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:23.640 sh it, that's how you ought to make an airboat. Yeah, 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.560 and that caught on, well the Palm the Palm Beach 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.959 guys that style boat where like they were known as 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.240 the you know what one of the sayings was it 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:33.399 if you told guys from Palm Beach that there was 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.240 deer on the moon. They would build a machine to 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:39.840 get there. And that's just the way it was. That's 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.440 that's the old saying about it. So there's arguments there. 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:45.159 Now there's guys down south and the in the southern 0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:47.000 part of the Glades. I argued that the sled and 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:49.840 you know, um there's other builders. I'm not going to 0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:52.240 mention them all because I don't want to start a 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:57.080 war down here, but um, you know, we're biased to 0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:01.960 what we run. But they can you know, I'll take 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.080 in show you what it'll do, and and they can 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.399 bring what they got. And my gripe with them is 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.800 the noise. I mean, it's so loud. You gotta wear 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.320 a headset. And at first I'm thinking I would just 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.639 get rid of this sum bitch and use a canoe. 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:20.520 But then it realized the vastness of the landscape. Yeah, 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:25.359 that it's just uh, I mean it is huge, like 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.120 the area is huge. It's just it's just like it's 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.560 kind of a way to get I mean, it really 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.040 opens up a lot. Like I can definitely see it, man, 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:35.840 I can hear it, but but I can I can 0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.720 see the appeal for sure. Because once we went out 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:42.920 to look at the downed aircraft today you realize that 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.600 it's just it just goes and goes and goes and goes, 0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:49.960 and it's kind of monotonous like that, I mean, like 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:53.680 in that there's not a lot of like, uh, there's 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.600 not a lot of features in some of the areas. 0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:58.000 And if it weren't for the airboat, trails would just 0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.560 be really hard to get around. Ye. Um, you know 0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.560 you do have change. You know, like this is an 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:06.080 eastern you know, the eastern side of it. Um, you 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:09.440 guys only seen a small percentage of you know, obviously 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.640 when you go further west of us, you'll get into 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:15.840 more cypress you know cypress swamps um that you know, 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.120 actually when you go southwest of US, so actually get rockier. 0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:22.439 You know they years ago down there they actually used 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.399 to wrap the you know, we have also when and 0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:26.119 you guys haven't, I don't know if you've seen it 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.240 or not, but we put polymer on the bottom of 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.440 our halls, you know, so it that helps protect Also 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:35.320 it's slicker, it helps you run the ground better. Um. 0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:40.240 And down in the southwest towards Tamami Trail. Uh, you 0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:43.159 know big cypress area down in there they call like 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.440 the loop and stairstep. You know, they were known to 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.439 wrap stainless on the bottom and rivet that to their 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:53.160 hall to help with protect with rock you know. Um, 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:56.320 but Febry areas got their own little like features for 0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.040 the kind of fit whatever sort of. Yeah, there's a 0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:02.119 little niches out every place. You know, this this area 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:06.520 doesn't have the you know, now you're going back years ago. 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:08.680 If you went up to the northwest corner of our area, 0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:12.200 there would be more tree islands. As water levels have 0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:16.760 hired lowered changes. You know, the tree islands have you know, shrunk, 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.840 you know, died off, that type of deal. But for 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.560 the most part this area, you know, you ride around, 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.360 you see the little wax myrtle, you know, you see 0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:26.840 the little myrtle bushes, some willow heads here and there. 0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:30.040 That's about the extent of it here. Um, as far 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.600 as now there is there's a few cypress you know, 0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:34.960 if you go out west of here, there's a few 0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:39.720 low cypress heads and whatnot. But this area, yeah, a 0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:43.800 lot of sawgrass, you know what from the water surface. 0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:46.439 So the way these guys got the area. But rig 0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.120 it's like you're kind of like it's almost like riding 0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:52.480 a supercub where the driver is right in front of you, 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.520 and the drivers is sitting in a single seat, like 0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:59.040 a single elevated seat up above the whole. And then 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.359 behind that thing elevated seat, you've got like a little 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.639 passenger area with two like a little love seat basically 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:08.400 for two people. How high is that love seat from 0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:13.159 the water surface? My on my boat is it's about 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:17.000 seventy inches from the surface, so you're about six ft 0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:21.560 up off the water surface. And how long is your frog? Gig? Okay, 0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.200 the way these guys gig frogs is like nothing I've 0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:29.280 ever seen before. Where you're out in an air boat 0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:34.639 and the air boat is running and you're just as 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:36.480 much as you can creep along in the air boat, 0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:42.960 you're creeping along in the channels and trails headlamping for frogs, 0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.280 which you wouldn't think they do. They kind of stand 0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:48.960 out like a sore thumb when you hit a bullfrog 0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.080 with a with a flashlight, just like something about the 0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.399 shine on it and then the yellow throat. You can 0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:58.800 just see them. But from the elevated seat, you're just 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.600 like sitting down holding the eleven foot that's a carbon 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:06.800 fiber it's actually graphics a GRAPHI leven foot frog gig 0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:12.200 and you give them from the seat while moving. Yeah, 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.600 because if you stop the boat, you send if it 0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.159 was ever been in the boat. In the boat stops, 0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.920 you send out what's called a bow wave. The bow 0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.760 wave spooks the frog, right I presumably Yeah, they feel that, 0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:24.639 you know, they feel the pressure of the way and 0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.800 they'll go down. So you can't slow the boat down 0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:30.920 enough to send out a bow wave. The spoot you 0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:33.840 have to like stay faster than your bow wave and 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:38.880 just as you roll by. It's like watching in movies. 0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:45.680 It's like watching planes, warriors, lance people from horseback from horseback. Yeah, 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:49.760 it's like medieval jousting with an eleven foot gig on 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.920 the move hitting frogs. Which when I first saw you 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:59.000 hit one while also driving, I thought, Um, that man 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:03.920 just did something that's a possible, Yeah, but then learn 0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.120 that it's not. It's like something about it. It's like 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.640 it was it's one of those rare things that's easier 0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.720 than it's actually easier than it looks. But when you 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.360 first did it, I was like I just witnessed or 0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.440 I'm like, this guy is doing a really good job 0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:21.640 of acting like he's not shocked. He just hit that 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:25.400 frog while in motion. And you guys, what do you 0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.800 guys call the basket you used to for your frogg 0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:32.120 a frog shoot? Explain that to people. So on the 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.880 frog shoot on the airboat, it's you know, we this 0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.800 is this standard feature on the airboat. Well, yeah, I mean, 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.959 if you're a serious frog gigger, you know, I mean 0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:42.200 some guys so like I said, some guys just come out, 0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.360 ride around, you know, hang out, and that's what they do. 0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.760 But we're we like to hunt and use them to 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.520 you know, we're sportsman. We like to use them for 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.120 obviously efficient what we've done. You guys use the term 0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:58.400 that I've never heard. Um, you use the term gladesman. 0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:03.440 A gladesman now like Chestpeake Bay, it's a waterman just 0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.800 like means like basically a dude that like does a 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.840 lot of stuff around here outside. A dude that does 0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:10.520 a lot of stuff around here outside would be a 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:15.560 glades No gladesman. You gotta do a lot of stuff 0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:19.239 in the everglades, you know, yea and ship I mean 0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.080 like yeah, like about right, yeah, I mean, if you 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:24.360 you know the glades. When these guys that come out 0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:26.480 here and are you a gladesman or no? Yeah, I'm 0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.760 glades okay, Bryan, But you're also an offshore fisherman. I 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:34.200 do everything, so you can be an offshore commercial fisherman 0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:38.200 and a gladesman. A gig, frog shoot, ducks, kill, gators. 0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:44.840 What else you want? Fish? Fish, swordfish? Um? Yeah, explain 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.840 the frog shoot the frog shoot. Basically what I have 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:53.160 is it's uh six inch round piece of aluminum. That's 0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:55.760 you know. They We have a guy that makes him. 0:30:56.080 --> 0:31:00.400 He cuts out a little v and he makes these themselves. Yeah. 0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.160 How many do you have any idea? How many he 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.600 produces a pile of you know, quite a But we 0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:06.760 actually have an airboat store down here. You go buy 0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:12.000 all kinds of accessories, yeah, airboat accessories. And basically that shoot, 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.440 that six inch shoot of aluminums. You know, it's six 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:18.720 inches in circumference and then probably ten inches you know 0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.480 tall mounted vertically mounted vertically on the eye mount because 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:26.320 I you know, you drop, I mean nine percent. Airboaters 0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.400 drive with their steering sticks on your left hand and 0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:31.840 your gig what your right hand, So you mount to 0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.520 get the shoot on the right front corner of your 0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:36.760 grass raak yeah, just so people get it looks it's 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:41.080 about like a coffee can. Yeah, it's about like a 0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:43.960 coffee can mounted on brackets in the in the in 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:49.640 the in the um bow starboard corner. Yeah, which is 0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.960 that that big the which we call grass rake. What 0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.600 goes the big you know kind of the ramp, Yeah, 0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.360 the ramp in front of the boat, and that helps 0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:03.000 push the grass down. Um So basically what the frog 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.480 shoot does. It just increases your efficiency. You don't have 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.440 to grab them by hand, pull them off or none 0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:10.520 of that. You just stick the gig in there. It 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:12.600 goes into a little slot. You pull it back, and 0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.240 the frog drops down into a like a laundry bag 0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.840 as all as we use. Yeah, so like the mesh bag. 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:20.320 So it's like a picture of coffee can and picture 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:24.080 to someone cinched a sack around the cinched a mesh 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:26.080 sack around the bottom of the coffee cant. So anything 0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.720 that falls into coffee can falls into the bag. And 0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:32.920 then there's a V notch. It's more complicated this, but 0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.320 there's a V notch. There's a V notch cut into 0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.000 the coffee can. So when you got a lanced frog, 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.360 you drop the frog into the coffee can and the 0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:46.720 V notches where the gig. The spear falls down in 0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:48.840 that V notch and it enters like a little hole. 0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:52.040 And then you just tugged the spear and the frog 0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:57.400 into the sack and it's like a wink of the eye. 0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.080 And that's a part a lot of people don't like 0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.200 about frog gigging, is taking frogs off the gig. Yeah. 0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.240 It is slick, Yeah, and you guys can stack up 0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.640 hundreds of frogs a good night, you know, I mean, 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.200 we'll do now and a good night. I'll come out 0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.160 two hours and you know, me and myself, I expect 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.960 a gig, you know, hundred frogs and two hours. You know, 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:21.680 that's a good you know, normal, I could come out 0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:24.600 two hours, don't burn a bunch of fuel, get my 0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:26.520 hundred go home. You know, if I really want to 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.320 go get crazy. We have gone out and gone all 0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.080 night and you can get three four when the conditions, 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.720 you know, when the water levels right. Yeah, because they 0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:36.840 like us that. You know, if there's a lot of rain, 0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:41.040 a lot of moving water, fresh water, we tend not 0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.080 to do as well when we get more stagnant water more. 0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.440 You know. That's why I kind of like the late 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.120 winter months when we're not getting you know, we're in 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:52.200 a kind of a dry season. The longer that water 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.080 gets stagnant and stay, it just seems, you know, we 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.720 get more and more frogs get out into the because 0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:00.280 as the water is dropping, you know, as you gotta 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.960 understand as oh, they're getting pushed out of all the Yeah, 0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.360 they come out, they got a feed. They eat mennows, crawfish, bugs. 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.160 But I noticed you guys kept saying that the were 0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:13.520 you saying the frogs are up or high? What are 0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:16.040 you saying? You guys got a term you use meaning 0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.799 like shiploads of frogs, But you'd say, what frogs are up? 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:20.759 You know that's when we say they're up, that means 0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:24.120 you know, you're starting to see him. Okay, I didn't 0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.600 know if you meant that the population in general is 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.000 up or you just mean they're available right now. That 0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.560 means like it's available right it's good frog, that's good. 0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.520 So what's happening is the as the water levels drop, 0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.839 they need to like areas that were once wet are 0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:42.640 now dry. Another thing I had no idea about that 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.880 we talked about out frog gig and last night was 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:50.719 the idea of a gator hole, the areas they exegate. Yeah, 0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:54.200 they'll go in. A gator, I'll go in and he'll wallow. 0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:57.000 You know, he'll wallow himself an area and he'll keep 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.560 wallowing it until the point that a lot of times 0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:03.400 the you know, the roots from lily pads, you know, 0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.759 there's actually a route down there, and it'll break off 0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.520 and then the little mud clump will float up, you know, 0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.160 and he'll have a little hole in there, and then 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.000 he'll you know, he'll live in that hole. That's his sanctuary. 0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.120 That's the territorial about those things. If you get a bull, 0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:18.680 you know, a mail gator. You know, I've seen a 0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:22.120 mail gator stay in a hole and you know until 0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.719 you either if it's hunting season and we kill him 0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.360 out of there, he'll stay in there and guard that area, 0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:31.120 you know, and because he you know, he's gonna that's 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.640 his little sanctuary. Just like a white tail buck has 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.400 his little home range. Gator is going to kind of 0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.400 do the same thing out you know, out here for 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:40.960 the most part, I've noticed other parts of state where 0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.839 the gators are a little bit more nomadic, but here 0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:47.120 they'll hang tight. It has an interesting function too, because 0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:50.480 as he excavates that hole and the water levels drop, 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.799 he's got a place to live. But may it collects fish. Yeah, 0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:57.400 that's it's it's it's pretty important for other wildlife and 0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.040 you know, fish, turtles. You know, as the water goes down, 0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.800 you got you gotta imagine you have six inches of 0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.919 water around and muck and then there's a four ft 0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.480 deep hole. You know, the fish that haven't made it 0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.280 to the canal, to the perimeter canals, and yet they'll 0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.719 go to that deeper water, you know, and that also 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.479 provides that game. I mean, the way I look at gator, 0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.720 he ain't too stupid because he got him a perfect 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:24.799 little spot. He's got a place to live and all 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.080 the food has has a win win situation for him. 0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.359 If I opened the bar, I wouldn't do it around here. 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:34.919 But if I opened the bar somewhere else, I would 0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:39.320 call it the gator hole. Is there a um? Is 0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.600 there a bar called the gator hole? Uh? Not to 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.920 my knowledge, but that's you know, I wouldn't do it 0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.200 here because people would think you were trying. You know, 0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:51.400 people here would think you were right, like some outsider 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.000 calling it a gator hole. It'd be like your opposer. 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.200 But say you were up in somewhere else, some other 0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:58.840 part of the country. You started a bar called the 0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:07.680 Gator Hole. I drink there. Yeah, so we gigged frogs. 0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:11.799 Not another question about frogs, Um, and Ryan feel I'm 0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:14.839 gonna get to you hot and heavy, So you can 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.279 sit this one out if you want, because we're gonna 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:20.320 cover you up and down on the soule swordfish situation. 0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:24.200 But um, why do you get Not why because I 0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.680 understand now, But can you explain how you clean your frogs? 0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.920 So the way you do it is you'll take a knife. 0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.160 You're grabbing him by his legs, you know, kind of 0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:36.319 pinch his legs together so he's straightened out. And if 0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.239 you hold them, you'll see a little arc in their back, 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:40.640 you know, were their bone arcs. And you take a knife, 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:44.000 just slice it, you know, slicy skin, and then you 0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.560 stick your finger and that, you know, down in the 0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.960 little hole that you made, and you peel back, you know, 0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.359 peel all the way back. Pull is my om man 0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:54.759 taught me. And when out a little young and pull 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:56.719 his pants off. Oh yeah, that's what we taught. We 0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:01.360 can squirrels and pull their pants and well, so what 0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:03.000 you do is you pull these pants off all the 0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.360 way down and then when you know, you pull the 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:09.000 skin all the way down past his feet, and then 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.560 you grab underneath his belly and you'll actually tear the belly. 0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:14.759 You know. If you do it that way, you can 0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:18.000 it keeps everything cleaner. You know, some guys and I 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.399 used to do it. You know, I did a couple 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.399 of different ways, but I've just cut the legs off 0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:26.600 and then do it. See that's how that's how I've 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.040 always seen it done, and that's how we always do it. Well, 0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.399 I'll show you another way to do it. But if 0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:33.000 you you know the way I'm trying to explain, if 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.560 you cut it, pull the pants down past his feet 0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.480 and then reach up in his belly and you can 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:42.600 actually just pull you know, the little muscle and you know, 0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.239 around his belly and just pull them gut out and 0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.759 everything will be attached to his head and you just 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:49.480 snap his head, you know, you just spin his head 0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.600 in a pop right off and you got a clean 0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:56.879 set of leg and you guys, leave the feet the fingers, yeah, 0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.800 attached to the leg. That's the best part. There's pros 0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.480 and cons but there's pros and cons. The pro being 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.840 I'm with you. The little toes, the fried up toes 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.560 are good. It's just like you equated it when you 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:14.719 guys equated the fish fins catfish fins, right, Yeah, like 0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:16.600 when you fry a small blue gal or whatever and 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:21.839 leave his tail on there. But appearance wise, I could 0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:25.080 see that some people might, some people who were sort 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:31.320 of on the fence about frog eating might see the toes, 0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:36.160 especially a whole basketful of them, and and it would 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.560 tip them in the air direction. Yeah, I mean, if 0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:41.600 I you know, I mean, if if we got some 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:43.520 ladies around and there we want to eat fays, a 0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.080 lot of times we'll cut the feet off. You find 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:50.719 ladies are less inclined to want the toes on there. Yeah, 0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:54.480 it looks like it looks like Freddy Krueger. It's like 0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:59.000 ugly brother. Yeah it does. That's a good way. Yeah, 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.560 it's like a little a little basket of Freddy Krueger's 0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:11.480 little brother. After frog getting, we set out to do 0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:16.279 a little bow fishing. And I have if people, if 0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.600 like people were where I grew up bow fishermen where 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:24.080 I grew up, would they wouldn't even know how, they 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:28.200 wouldn't know how to begin comprehending the number and size 0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:34.680 of gar down here. It's unbelievable. We never even flung 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:39.400 an arrow at a guard though. But like up here's 0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:42.520 here's what I'm trying to get to this. In most 0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:45.359 parts of the world, most parts of the country, bow 0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:51.120 fishermen are not generally shooting. This is I'm speaking generally. 0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:54.480 Both fisher were not generally shooting fish that are that 0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.160 good to eat, right, like the like people shoot a 0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.400 lot of common carps, Like common carps the main thing 0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.840 people go after, and of course, like common carp were 0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:07.360 introduced into this country into many waterways as a food source. 0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:11.879 Like people thought that as native fisheries collapse from over 0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.280 fishing and habitat destruction, like well, here's this very durable 0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:19.160 for coun to fish that gets big people eat it 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.400 will sort of replace the fisheries that we ruined with 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.560 cart and then it would be happy. But carp have 0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:28.200 never even though you know they raise them and eat 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:31.640 them in Asia, they're just not popular here. So where 0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.919 I grew up, people fished carp, both fish for carp 0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:37.839 and would often just discard the fish because now they're 0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.799 considered like a deleterious non native, and people want to see, 0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.120 would like to see it's never gonna happen, would like 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:46.600 to get rid of the cart. But the one fish 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.040 that's sort of like has like a fairly good reputation 0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:56.560 is uh long nose gar you guys have. These are 0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:02.160 long nos. But but the scars shape like footballs. Yeah, 0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:05.759 they're fat. Yeah, like I'm used to guards that look 0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:12.040 like cars. Yeah, well they're feeding good unbelievable. It's like 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.480 Yanni said, it's like a football with a with a 0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:19.440 swordfishes nose coming out of huge cars. But you guys 0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:21.480 don't mess with them, you know, we don't. We don't, 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:23.200 you know, we don't really mess with them. So you know, 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.040 guys that like to eat them, I mean I've heard 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.400 of god, you know, certain people. What they'll do with 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:30.879 them is like you know, they'll actually like scale them 0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:32.959 and then boil the meat out of them, and they'll 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.200 make like a patty out, you know, put some onion 0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:37.520 pepper and you know, make all us like a little 0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:41.160 patty balls. Yeah, I mean, but we don't, you know, 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:43.080 we haven't messed with them. And you guys have so 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:44.960 much other stuff to eat, yeah, I'd rather eat a 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.960 frog when I've done them. Like you take like you 0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.040 take tin snips if you were maybe you never try to. 0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:53.120 You take tin snips and just cut up the back 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:56.239 all the way up the bag, and then you cut 0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:59.319 so you got like you picture the whole guard laid 0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.719 out like like your arm right, and you cut a 0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.920 big long strip up what would be like his dorsal fin, 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.800 the whole length of the fish. And then you snip 0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:12.200 the ends of that long strip and just peel the 0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.200 top part away, peel the hide off to the right 0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.560 and off to the left, and just remove the backstraps, 0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:19.080 which is where all the meat is on a car. 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.680 And you've got these big long cigars of meat, and 0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:25.040 people will make guard balls out of those or you 0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:26.839 just you just chunk them up and fry them. It's 0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.640 not that bad, but that was the that was like 0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.879 in in Michigan, that's like the best fish that you're 0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.520 allowed to shoot with the boat will be a guard. 0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:41.799 But here you can bow fish for fish that people 0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:46.840 buy in restaurants. You got telapia. And then we also 0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:48.719 have in some of our canals which we you know 0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.239 last night where we were both fishing, we I mean 0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.560 there's we've seen a few, but not many, um and 0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.320 a lot of are more of the urban canals. They'll 0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:00.720 have bull's eye snakehead, which is you know, actually becoming 0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.839 highly targeted fishery. You know a lot of guys are 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.600 you know, they're big into catching them rotting real but 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.960 we actually got into shooting them, which Matt's been with 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.640 us on that, and we've had some you know, incredible 0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:17.800 snakeheads shoots. I mean, you know, load the box tilapia 0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:20.440 snakeheads and and they get pretty sizeable. You know, it 0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:22.680 looks like a little mini Kobe is what I always 0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.160 say that kind of like, yeah, what is a big snakehead? 0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:30.160 Nine eight nine pounds? You know, and they'll get you know, 0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.440 two and a half three ft long. And the big 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.680 tilapia is what too, yeah to to you know, like 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:38.680 the you know a couple of you would kill last night. 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.160 Those are pretty sizeable fish. Yeah, you know, they're like 0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:43.480 really substantial, And it's just weird to be able to 0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:45.040 shooting that weird because I mean I've done it in 0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:50.000 South America, but um where you can shoot like great 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.759 table fair fish. Yeah, So to be able to go 0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.560 out and both fish for tilapia, even though tilapia or 0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.000 you know, non native but none native fish, you know 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:02.359 how long they've been in these waters. Flap Um, I've 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:06.680 seen him around since I was a kid, here for 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:10.359 quite a while. And they dig a nest, like I'm 0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.879 trying to think the closest example that, like most guys 0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:17.120 would know, picture like a bluegill nest, a bluegill bed, 0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:21.319 but they dig it where it's it's almost deeper than 0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:25.200 it is wide. Yeah, it's like a ball, like a crater. Craters. 0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:30.320 They dig a crater and guard that crater. But the 0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.520 problem for bow fishing is a lot of those craters. 0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:36.719 Like there's a when you're trying to hit fish with 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.000 the boat, you're like dealing with refraction. I'm not telling 0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.640 you this, I'm just telling like Joe blow listener that 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:43.480 you're dealing with refraction. Like if you ever stuck a 0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:46.040 stick in the water, right, the stick looks curved. So 0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.120 when you're aiming at a fish, you don't aim at 0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:51.240 the fish. You aim way, You aim below, and generally 0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:54.359 you don't aim low enough. It gets worse and worse 0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:56.840 and worse the deeper deeper you go. So these craters 0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:00.120 are four ft down, three ft down, four feet out, 0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:01.600 and it gets to be very hard to hit the 0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:05.959 fish down there because the aral slows down so bad, 0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:10.480 you know. Yeah, and then the thing's too deep. But 0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.480 we caught some up in the shallows where they're just 0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.480 a few inches under the surface, and we caught them slipping, 0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:18.879 and then you wind up with like, you know, one 0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:22.680 and a half two pound fish that's like a restaurant 0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:27.040 like a restaurant grade fish. Yep. Yeah. People are buying 0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.200 them in the every day, you know, down here. You 0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.080 go into public's are you know, local supermarkets that are 0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:34.560 down here, and they sell them all, you know, probably 0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.320 one of the most popular fish people going by, you know, 0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:39.799 every day. So is it unusual that we didn't see 0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:43.480 anyone bow fishing last night? Uh? No, you don't see 0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.239 a whole lot. You know. It's it's not you know, 0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:48.239 down here in South Florida. Yeah, I mean there's guys 0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:50.320 that do it, you know, there's a handful of guys. 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:53.200 I know a few, but it hasn't really taken off 0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.920 to the point that you when you go out that 0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.600 you actually see other people. You know, I've been doing 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:02.080 it now for I don't know, what's what we've been 0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.640 doing seven eight years because actually Matt, you know, I 0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:07.440 hadn't really gotten into it until Matt came down and 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:11.560 we he we funny stories. We were out fishing. We 0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:13.680 were snakehead fishing is what we were doing. And Matt 0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:16.040 had brought some bows and he'd come up with the 0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:21.640 idea and I said, O, well, I know a place 0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:23.239 where I know there's fish there, we go do it. 0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.600 We went out that night and I mean we you know, 0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:28.880 they shot till their fingers were so you know, it 0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:31.360 was just that the first night we did it was 0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:34.040 you know, we kind of found a little canal and 0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:36.440 they hadn't been fished, you know, both fish before, so 0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:39.160 it was just you know, as fast as you can shoot, 0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:41.560 as fast as they can get arrows back on there, 0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:43.840 and you know, and then from there he was the 0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.360 one who kind of really got me into it. I've always, 0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:48.320 you know, been had interest and it messed around a 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:50.719 little bit, but it wasn't like go out and do it. 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:53.640 And then he got me into it and I started 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:56.680 Ryan and I buddies of ours. I mean, we started 0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:58.320 it was a great time to go, you know, summertime. 0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:00.600 You know, we all we liked the deer hun bow hunt, 0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.120 and it was a great time to go past time 0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:04.839 in the summer, and we started out there. We've got 0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:08.000 some beer and go out, get on the john boat 0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.560 and go bow fishing. And I mean we were doing 0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:12.759 it all the time, you know. So I think I 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.040 feel like it would be like a I probably should 0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:16.680 be saying this, but I feel it'd be like a 0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:21.239 bow fishing destination place. Well because there's endless water. Yeah, 0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.040 I think the logistics are complicated to in some of 0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:26.359 the areas. I mean it's not there's not a lot 0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.160 of places are not necessarily the best places are near 0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:31.440 a bowt launch, like we went last night off the 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.160 air boat. You know that's uh, you know it's tricky 0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:37.319 to get over there. So I think that can't be underestimated. 0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:41.680 Some of it's tricky. I can interrupt you. I want 0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.520 you to ask yourself, Um, is my microphone really just 0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:48.680 two fingers off my upper lip? It is exactly two fingers. 0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:56.239 I've been admiring it. What he's saying, gears might be 0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:58.239 just a little far. But see the thing is that 0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.759 Matt he's got he sounds good. Are you saying I 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:06.160 have fat fingers, it's placed. I think your ear is 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:11.560 farther away from your mouth. That's absolutely possible. Is that better? 0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:14.480 A little closer? Little closer? Okay, now we're one and 0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:23.359 a half fingers, okay. Uh. Logistics, it's complicated down here, 0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.279 you know, with the camps obviously the only uh, it's 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:30.880 only accessible by the airboat. And so between that and 0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:33.839 getting into the canals when the water level and we'll 0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:36.080 talk a little bit on the water level changes quite 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:39.040 a bit here, so you really got to know the area. 0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:41.759 I have a local that can kind of put you 0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:44.880 on the right spots. And that's how Josh and I 0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:50.200 came together around both fishing down here. Do you just 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:54.000 rolled in cold here? It would be a tough It 0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:58.799 would be a tough it'd be tough years homet rolled 0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:01.239 in cold would be years for what. Just kind of 0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:04.960 figure it out. We figure everything out, both fishing. I disagree, 0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:10.359 because both fishes, both fishing. If you've got a good 0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:12.680 bow fishing boat and you got all these canals, any 0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:17.680 anyone's gonna find the canals. That's true, I guess. I 0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:20.080 guess they are in the canals really more than like 0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:23.080 out in the grass where we've been running right. Oh, yeah, 0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:24.920 that would be that would be difficult for people to 0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:28.799 figure out. But to go hunt the big primary big canals. Yeah, 0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:31.120 you cat you cat pretty much down here. If you've 0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:34.600 got any freshwater canal, you know that. And that is 0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:37.200 what's you know, kind of gold about it is you 0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:40.359 can in South Florida if it's public water, you've got 0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:43.360 a public boat ramp and any of these canals you 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:45.960 can go put in and you're gonna see fish that 0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:47.919 you can you know, non you know, obviously it's gotta 0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:50.960 be a non game fish. So you can't shoot large mouth. 0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.759 They got no bass um, you know, no bluegills, that 0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:58.040 kind of you know, you can shoot catfish. Uh, you 0:50:58.120 --> 0:50:59.759 know you got down here, if you know, if you've 0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:01.520 got gotta say, you get a little bit east of here, 0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:02.880 you go to some of the you know where you 0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:05.399 guys drove in down that road that canal that there, 0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:08.080 you can go in there and shoot tilapia, uh, and 0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:14.520 snakeheads and oscar oscars and which is the native fish? Um, 0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:20.040 isn't it? I don't think an oscar as native, So 0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:25.360 that's another native. The snakeheads are introduced. You have snakehead 0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:29.240 introduced non native, the oscars. That's some kind of crazy 0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:31.400 South American seclet or something. And then you have a 0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:34.960 miyon cycling. And then we also have peacock bass, which 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:39.960 the can you shoot those? See the state games? What's crazy? 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:42.480 As the state has actually got a tougher regulation, like 0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:45.320 if you were to go fishing rod and reel, you 0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:47.960 gonna keep two peacock backs even though they're not native 0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:50.239 and they're non native, but you can you can kill 0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:55.800 five largemouth bass. So that's how they you know, you know, 0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:59.560 I guess it's kind of a that's pretty that's interesting. 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:02.719 What's uh? You know, obviously a peacock basses in the 0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:06.160 cicklid family, you know, a cycling and mine cyclid peacock 0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:10.080 pass over. So you can't go shoot a peacock bass. 0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:13.120 It's considered a game fish here. I'd like to hear 0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:15.960 the logic on that. Besides, the people really like them, 0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:18.880 and have you ever eaten one of those? It's a 0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:22.440 good fish. Man. When we were down we're in South America, 0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:25.120 they have a smaller that they have peacock bass, but 0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:26.920 they're not like the giants like they'd be like four 0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:29.239 or five pounds and man, they grilled some of the 0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:32.920 olds one time, and unbelievably good fish, like one of 0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.160 the best, like almost as good as like snook, you know, 0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.319 like a very good fish. I got a pretty good 0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:40.680 story on a peacock pass please. So when I was 0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:44.520 a little little guy, we used to live on Sea fourteen, 0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:47.960 which is in in town here in Margate, Florida. And 0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:50.320 my dad's an avin, you know, I grew up. My 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.040 dad's a gladesman airboat or that's who I've learned everything. 0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:56.520 He's you know, everything I've known. And he was an 0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.520 avid bass fisherman. When he was fishing sea forts, falling 0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:01.759 off bat large mouth large mouth baths, you know. So 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:04.560 he was in Sea fourteen, which is pretty good for 0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:08.279 peacock bass fish, and he catches like a close seven 0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:12.920 pound peacock, which is it's a canal canal system. It's 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:23.520 also explosive. Yeah, so he four he catches this you know, 0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:28.240 trophy peacock, you know, seven pound class. And I actually 0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:32.680 growing up, we had a nanny and she was from 0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:35.680 South America, and my dad had put the fish and 0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:37.880 he was taxing. My dad was a taxinger at one time, 0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:39.600 so he'd put the fish in the freezer and was 0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:41.960 keeping it that he want to get a mounted. And 0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:46.799 I come home from school and I'm something. I mean 0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:48.960 just the smell of the house. I'm like, man's you know, 0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:51.279 because she's cooking fish or something to night. And I 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:53.879 walk in there and look in the pot and there's 0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:58.359 this peacock baths in there. It's boiling. My dad ain't 0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:00.719 home yet, and I'm looking in there. I'm like, her 0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:02.960 name is Vera Severa. Where did you get that fish? 0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:06.120 I was in the freezer. I said, Oh, this ain't 0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:09.560 gonna go good. Needless to say, she know she wont 0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:14.839 her nanny no more? After that, Oh no, she's lost. Hey, 0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:21.400 you know it's a trophy. Is a trophy? Yeah she she? 0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:24.799 We were uh uh, none of us. We all went out. 0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:27.520 I think we went to Checkers at night because it 0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:35.520 was pretty gnarly. Look yeah, um, have you Okay, We're 0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:38.040 always hearing about snakehead because snakeheads keep turning up in 0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:41.000 new locations because like it's a it's a fish. People 0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:44.840 buy it for their aquariums. Um. I think that's like 0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.919 tightly regulated now or more regulated than it was. People 0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:52.280 buy snakeheads for their aquariums. The snakeheads get bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger. 0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:55.560 They're hard to feed, hard to take care of. They 0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:58.440 outpaced the size of their tank, and people decided to 0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:01.080 get rid of them. So they keep popping up in 0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:04.120 new places. Um Like, if you follow, if you like 0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:07.479 read about wildlife news, you'll always be reading stories about 0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:10.200 some new drainage that that people have found snakeheads. And 0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:14.799 but then when you go talk to people who are 0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:16.879 in a snakehead area, doesn't seem like it's very often 0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:19.800 that they're like that they reached like the levels that 0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:23.799 Karp have reached. Like do you see is it still 0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:26.120 kind of rarity or do you ever see places where 0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:29.279 it's just nothing but snakeheads when they get into which 0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:32.480 we have a bull's eye snakehead and you know they're 0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:35.680 Asia from Asia, and when they get into uh, um, 0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:37.439 you know, I used to work on a golf course 0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.960 and at you know, earlier years great bass fishing and whatnot, 0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:42.920 and we started, you know, caught one on top water 0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:44.920 plug and you know, when I first seen it, I'm 0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:47.920 like the hexas thing, I don't you know, start figuring 0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:51.600 it out. And once we've seen the first one, it 0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:54.840 just from there it exploded and then you know, and 0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:56.719 like I said before, it's like gotten to like this 0:55:56.880 --> 0:56:00.359 crazy little colt that goes in chases east things. They 0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:04.279 love fishing for them, and you know that which it 0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:06.880 was in Coral Springsford just west or just east to here. 0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:11.759 I'm sorry, but the that's when they show up. They're 0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:15.440 so aggressive, you know, I would say, like peacock we 0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:18.960 used to complain about, we don't. I don't necessarily I'm 0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:21.200 not fond of the peacock bass because they get into 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:23.560 a bat I'm a large mouth bass guy, and when 0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:26.640 a peacock gets in there there, you know, twice at 0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:30.839 least twice as aggressive as our large mouth and well 0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:32.960 they'll hammer the bait fish, you know, so that kind 0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:35.919 of you know little you know, they can't a large 0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:38.480 amounth just can't compete with a peacock is as far 0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:43.400 as aggressiveness, and the bowl's eye snake, as I'll say, is, 0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:47.240 is even more aggressive. You know, great fish to catch, 0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:50.200 I mean some of the most explosive top water. You know, 0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:52.640 it's need a bottoms. You gotta fish. You fish like 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:54.920 a frog bait and fish it as close to the 0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:57.960 bank as you could possibly get it without touching the bank, 0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:01.000 and that's how they'll eat it. And you know, so 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:03.040 once you see it, once they showed up, I mean 0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:05.120 they've exploded. And once they get into a lake or 0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:08.279 canal system, it's almost like they'll overrun it. You know, 0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:12.400 So you do see that happen, because that's certainly like 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:14.560 the story you hear, but I haven't heard. But I 0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:16.680 haven't heard a lot of cases where people had like 0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:20.960 seen it reach those proportions. Yeah, you have the have 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:23.720 a thought, Johnnie. Oh, it's just interesting that we were 0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:28.200 in Maryland this fall and on this coast but still 0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:31.320 a long way from here, and they were into catching 0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:34.520 snake heads up there and he a guy, we met 0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:36.640 a guy I don't want to say his name. You 0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:39.400 don't know his name. I know where he goes by. 0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:42.680 Oh that's right, you just have VIC signed on the 0:57:42.840 --> 0:57:44.840 side of his truck. He told us what he goes by. 0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:52.360 He told us they called me the whisperer, the X whisperer. 0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:59.640 So he gets telling us how listen, this is like 0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:03.400 only layers of like, no, you know what we Okay, 0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:07.120 we heard it from a man who supposedly witnessed it. 0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:14.640 He knew some guys who were doing Are you familiar 0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:18.000 with selling glass eels? So, do you guys have the 0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:22.320 American eel around here? Do you have a freshwater eel? 0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:27.880 Freshwater that's called the American eel. Now, American eels, like 0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:35.240 a salmon, is a nadrumus, meaning it goes from the 0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:39.160 ocean and runs up a river to spawn. That's an 0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:44.960 anadromous fish. The American eel is catagronous. It goes from 0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:49.280 the rivers out into the ocean to spawn. There's not 0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:53.000 a lot of fish to do that. American eels go 0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:58.080 all the way to the Sargasso Sea and they congregate 0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.560 and spawn in the Sargasso Sea, and then they where's 0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:08.280 that awful like like out off from the Caribbean, very 0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:11.160 deep area, like like a very deep area of the ocean. 0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:13.840 It's kind of without looking at the map, it's hard 0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:16.600 to explain. But if you shot from here, if you 0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:19.120 shot from here kind of like through the Caribbean off 0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:22.560 that away, it's like where everything gets deep. Basically, everything 0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:24.600 that drifts down down down winds up in this place 0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:28.800 called the Sargasso Sea. Eels, all the eels and all 0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:31.040 these rivers concrete there and spawn, and then they have 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:36.760 a larva that just free floats, and eventually it gets 0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:39.880 bigger and bigger and bigger, and when they go back 0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:41.880 into the rivers and start going up, they're called I 0:59:41.920 --> 0:59:43.880 think that at that point they call the glass eel. 0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:49.520 And eels are very popular in Asian restaurants. So if 0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:51.840 you go to a sushi joint, here your eyes eating 0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:58.880 eel unagi, which is smoked eel. Now, aquaculture, they can 0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:02.800 raise the eels in aquaculture facilities, but you can't successfully 1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:06.120 spawn the eels out there. You need to start with 1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:09.440 a wild caught They need to start with wild caught 1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:14.000 glass eels or wild caught juvenile eels. So does a 1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:18.320 market for these wild called juvenile eels, which people net 1:00:18.440 --> 1:00:20.080 up and sell for shiploads of money, and a lot 1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:22.800 of people poach them, and then they go into these 1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:26.000 aquaculture facilities and you can raise the eels up. So 1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:27.960 this dude's telling us that he knew a dude who 1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:32.000 was in the business of of marketing and raising eels, 1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:35.360 and one day he looks in this guy's eel tank. 1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:37.240 This is the dude telling me and Yanni this at 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:41.680 a gun range. Remember this he says. He peers down 1:00:41.800 --> 1:00:45.480 into the eel tank and lo and behold, it's not eels, 1:00:47.520 --> 1:00:49.800 and he says, the hell is that? He goes, oh, 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:54.720 that's a fish called a snake head. I'm I've been 1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:57.720 raised this. The guy tells us, I've been raising them 1:00:57.760 --> 1:01:02.440 and letting them go. Why would you do that? And 1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:04.840 he says well, and he kind of walks through. This 1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:09.880 is a waterman in Chesapeake Bay, and he walks through 1:01:10.040 --> 1:01:15.640 his family's history with fisheries that have collapsed and become overregulated. 1:01:17.680 --> 1:01:18.880 So he's like, we used to be able to catch 1:01:19.080 --> 1:01:22.360 X blue crabs, Now we're screwed. Then we used to 1:01:22.360 --> 1:01:24.320 be able to do X with clams, Now we're screwed. 1:01:24.320 --> 1:01:27.240 We used to do this, now we're screwed. Here's one 1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:30.600 fish that no one's ever gonna tell me not to 1:01:30.680 --> 1:01:34.320 catch as many as I want. And that's where he 1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:39.040 in this waterway. That's where this feller claimed that that 1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:42.520 was how this is happening. It wasn't from the aquarium trade, 1:01:42.560 --> 1:01:44.640 It wasn't from people throwing out ones. He's two as 1:01:44.680 --> 1:01:47.000 he's here and there, that it was a concerted effort 1:01:47.040 --> 1:01:54.240 on behalf of some gentleman to um introduce it. Yeah, 1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:58.160 because and it already does. There's it already has commercial 1:01:58.200 --> 1:02:02.720 outlets and commercial value because the feller we met actually 1:02:02.760 --> 1:02:06.480 sells the things to a restaurant. Is it under that name? 1:02:06.520 --> 1:02:10.880 At restaurants? Yeah, and I don't want to name who. 1:02:12.800 --> 1:02:14.880 See this is this story starts to make its own 1:02:14.920 --> 1:02:18.720 gravy because yeah, so it started to get a guy 1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:21.400 started selling it, and he got really good reviews and 1:02:21.600 --> 1:02:24.160 like the hot ticket item, and now this guy can't 1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:26.840 get enough of it and he's buying it for seven 1:02:26.880 --> 1:02:29.040 bucks a pound, isn't he It was something like that. 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:34.760 It was high. Yeah, seven bucks a pound. So that's 1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:37.400 what got this. So that's what that's what this guy 1:02:37.520 --> 1:02:40.160 says is driving this whole snake head thing. Now, this 1:02:40.240 --> 1:02:42.080 could just be like a crazy guy at a gun club, 1:02:42.680 --> 1:02:45.120 which there are plenty of, or it could be like 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:48.960 the real dope. But Ryan, you're right up in town. 1:02:49.000 --> 1:02:50.360 You're gonna be the hot he did tell us. I 1:02:50.400 --> 1:02:51.880 want to I want to finish on that, he did 1:02:51.960 --> 1:02:54.560 tell us, and would be interesting to try, especially since 1:02:54.600 --> 1:02:56.400 we've been talking a little bit about live Maite this 1:02:56.800 --> 1:02:58.920 last couple of days. But he was saying that a 1:02:59.080 --> 1:03:01.000 thing not to do rolling into a spot where you 1:03:01.040 --> 1:03:02.800 know there was a few and just start chalking a 1:03:02.880 --> 1:03:06.760 lure or two in, but just pitch out a handful 1:03:07.040 --> 1:03:09.080 and get a little friendzy going. And then he said, 1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:10.919 he said, you can just sit there and fish every 1:03:11.000 --> 1:03:15.360 single one out of the hole. Yeah, so start like 1:03:15.560 --> 1:03:20.400 the Sargasso. See I'm looking at a it would be 1:03:23.400 --> 1:03:29.080 it's eastern, it's western edge would be due east of here, 1:03:32.400 --> 1:03:35.600 but like beyond the Bahamas. It's Yeah, it's just like 1:03:35.640 --> 1:03:38.760 apparently like as things go down, like eels go down down, 1:03:38.800 --> 1:03:40.840 now down, down now down, they eventually wind up like 1:03:40.960 --> 1:03:44.040 in the deep spot, and then they FreeCast this larva 1:03:44.120 --> 1:03:46.440 which binds his way all up and down the and 1:03:46.480 --> 1:03:52.400 these eels are having wide distribution. But back to you, Now, 1:03:53.680 --> 1:03:55.919 this is something that had listened. I knew all about 1:03:56.160 --> 1:03:58.440 shooting fish with bowls. I knew all about all this 1:03:58.520 --> 1:03:59.920 kind of stuff, but I had no idea until I 1:04:00.040 --> 1:04:03.240 came down here. Until last night, I was unaware of 1:04:06.200 --> 1:04:11.160 the type of sword fish fishing that you do. Can 1:04:11.240 --> 1:04:16.760 you explain, Ryan, Can you explain commercial sword fishing how 1:04:16.840 --> 1:04:20.680 it's practiced here. We'll start by saying how it's practice 1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:26.120 north of here. North of here the long line, which 1:04:26.200 --> 1:04:32.160 they'll set anywhere from a long line and berries on 1:04:32.280 --> 1:04:34.240 how many hooks they want to fish or whatever they 1:04:34.640 --> 1:04:36.400 I mean, I know some of them they're fishing up 1:04:36.440 --> 1:04:41.360 to thousand hooks or something like that. Farther north of there, 1:04:41.840 --> 1:04:45.440 they harpoon them. I guess it's up in Nova Scotia 1:04:45.560 --> 1:04:47.600 or something like that where they actually get on the 1:04:47.680 --> 1:04:50.960 surface and they have you know, spotted planes and towers 1:04:51.040 --> 1:04:53.800 on the boats and big pulpits and they actually go 1:04:53.880 --> 1:04:56.200 out and that's how they cop them. Just yeah, I've 1:04:56.200 --> 1:04:59.800 talked the guys who've done that with spotder planes, like harpooning, 1:05:00.400 --> 1:05:05.920 like this is up in Montauk Fence too. But then 1:05:05.960 --> 1:05:11.200 there's a line south of which you can't long line. Yeah, 1:05:11.280 --> 1:05:14.800 I'm pretty sure the line. It's like two hundred miles 1:05:16.000 --> 1:05:21.200 east of Port Canaveral. You gotta be north of that 1:05:21.440 --> 1:05:24.600 and so so many miles east and you could long one. 1:05:25.000 --> 1:05:29.040 But once you get south of there you can hand 1:05:29.080 --> 1:05:32.880 gear fish. So you basically you got a buoy with 1:05:33.200 --> 1:05:36.600 a strobe light. Hold up, because here's the other part 1:05:36.600 --> 1:05:41.200 of this I need you to explain. Um sword fish 1:05:41.240 --> 1:05:45.800 are down in the daytime at what depth. I mean, 1:05:45.880 --> 1:05:48.240 they could be anywhere from as long as it's dark, 1:05:48.320 --> 1:05:51.040 I guess seven hundred feet of water and all the 1:05:51.080 --> 1:05:54.880 way out to I don't know to three thousand feet. 1:05:55.600 --> 1:06:01.800 Are you fish them around? You know, anywhere from dshing 1:06:01.800 --> 1:06:05.360 them in the daytime the daytime, but at night they 1:06:05.480 --> 1:06:09.320 must just spiral. They spiral upward and come up to 1:06:09.360 --> 1:06:13.360 the surface. Something that's happened the generator. I think you 1:06:13.840 --> 1:06:17.720 know what that noise was. Uh sorry, But at nighttime 1:06:17.720 --> 1:06:21.720 they must just spiral upward and come up how close 1:06:21.760 --> 1:06:24.360 to the surface. I mean we've seen him on the surface, 1:06:24.480 --> 1:06:28.120 but most of this stuff we're fishing around hundred two 1:06:28.520 --> 1:06:32.360 ft of water. So explain your your commercial swordfish gear. 1:06:33.840 --> 1:06:36.640 Basically you got it. They call it a jat ball, 1:06:36.720 --> 1:06:39.120 which is just a hard plastic ball with a ten 1:06:39.200 --> 1:06:42.520 pound lead on the bottom so it keeps it upright. 1:06:43.280 --> 1:06:46.800 Then it's got a stem that's probably I don't know, 1:06:46.920 --> 1:06:49.280 about a foot and a half long, and then it's 1:06:49.320 --> 1:06:52.120 got a strobe light that takes two deep batteries and 1:06:52.240 --> 1:06:55.120 he put that on the top. So so it's a 1:06:55.240 --> 1:06:57.560 bootie with a like a like yeah, like I said, 1:06:57.560 --> 1:07:00.200 like a booby with a strobe light sticking up out 1:07:00.240 --> 1:07:01.760 of it right, so you can see it at night. 1:07:02.800 --> 1:07:05.040 And then normally you put another light on there in 1:07:05.120 --> 1:07:08.440 case of stroke light breaks or you know, just easier 1:07:08.520 --> 1:07:11.320 to see it. And then from the booty you'll have 1:07:13.200 --> 1:07:16.040 I use like a hundred and fifty ft of they 1:07:16.120 --> 1:07:18.440 call it um tar line, which is basically like a 1:07:18.640 --> 1:07:21.560 just a cheap kind of rope that goes to a 1:07:21.640 --> 1:07:24.840 longline clip which is basically some kind of a swivel, 1:07:25.400 --> 1:07:27.880 and then you put a leader which is about a 1:07:27.960 --> 1:07:31.600 hundred ft. Then in between there you got another swivel 1:07:31.680 --> 1:07:35.439 and I clipped my light onto there asn't attracted, yeah, 1:07:36.760 --> 1:07:38.520 And then you can fish, you know, any kind of 1:07:38.600 --> 1:07:41.000 bait you want. I like using a lot of squids 1:07:42.080 --> 1:07:47.480 or mackerel Spanish macro, Boston macerel, tanker mackerel, something like that. 1:07:48.840 --> 1:07:53.000 And then you go out and basically you're jug fishing. 1:07:53.320 --> 1:07:56.880 You go out and start throwing these booties overboard, and 1:07:56.920 --> 1:08:00.760 they're not connected to each other, so if you can't 1:08:00.840 --> 1:08:06.560 find one, she's probably gone, like gone gone. Yeah, if 1:08:06.560 --> 1:08:09.920 your lights break or whatever. Sometimes we've had some of 1:08:09.960 --> 1:08:11.760 the leads get ripped out of the balls and the 1:08:12.160 --> 1:08:14.640 you know, ball flip upside down and you know you'll 1:08:14.680 --> 1:08:17.280 never find them again, got you? But you go out 1:08:17.320 --> 1:08:19.040 and set how many of these? How many? Like so 1:08:19.360 --> 1:08:23.439 you're driving out to fift hundred feet of water, we 1:08:23.640 --> 1:08:26.160 go a little deeper because we'll set from the east 1:08:26.240 --> 1:08:30.720 to the west, so be anywhere from two thousand then 1:08:30.760 --> 1:08:34.960 set all the way in to about nine ft. Maybe 1:08:35.160 --> 1:08:37.720 it depends on the current. Sometimes the current pushes to 1:08:38.360 --> 1:08:40.680 it always pushed you north, but sometimes they'll push you, 1:08:40.960 --> 1:08:43.120 you know, east or west? And how many of the 1:08:43.240 --> 1:08:45.120 how many of the of the booties you throw out 1:08:45.160 --> 1:08:48.000 with the hooks on them? I fish thirty two thirty 1:08:48.040 --> 1:08:52.360 two rigs stretched out over what distance? It's probably close 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:58.200 to five miles. Why so far apart? I mean they're 1:08:58.240 --> 1:09:00.280 really only about a tenth of a mile up, aren't 1:09:00.840 --> 1:09:04.600 So you got I don't know, covering more water. So 1:09:04.840 --> 1:09:08.880 when you okay, this is like, so you start out 1:09:09.280 --> 1:09:13.160 your your furthest one is twenty miles off shore and 1:09:13.400 --> 1:09:15.840 your closest one to shore is fifteen miles off shore. 1:09:17.280 --> 1:09:20.200 And between those two points you have strong out thirty 1:09:20.240 --> 1:09:25.479 two booies with line, a leader in bait and a 1:09:25.600 --> 1:09:28.880 jay hook on the end. And they got lights on top. 1:09:29.560 --> 1:09:31.840 When you're at any particular buoy, can you look and 1:09:31.920 --> 1:09:35.679 see the booty's in either direction? If you're in the middle, 1:09:35.800 --> 1:09:38.120 you can almost see your inside. If you're on that 1:09:39.600 --> 1:09:41.640 now you can't really see at all, but you can 1:09:41.760 --> 1:09:45.840 usually see whatever one's next, right, okay, Yeah, I mean 1:09:45.920 --> 1:09:49.160 you could see probably ten or fifteen in a row 1:09:49.280 --> 1:09:52.400 something like that. Oh okay, So you're seeing like a 1:09:52.479 --> 1:09:54.960 considerable distance. It depends on if it's calm or not 1:09:55.120 --> 1:09:57.320 too you know, if there's if they're you know, the 1:09:57.400 --> 1:10:00.240 moon's full, you can't really see as many as far. 1:10:00.439 --> 1:10:03.080 You know, you might only see a few. But and 1:10:03.200 --> 1:10:05.599 you set this rig out there, or this big collection 1:10:05.640 --> 1:10:08.360 of rigs, you set it out there after dark. Yeah, 1:10:08.400 --> 1:10:11.040 we'll start like right at sunset. You know, it takes 1:10:11.080 --> 1:10:13.559 about hour hour and a half to get them all 1:10:13.560 --> 1:10:16.639 on the water. And then you're drifting at what speed 1:10:18.040 --> 1:10:20.479 it varies in the gulf streaming. Some nights you'll have 1:10:21.080 --> 1:10:23.800 you know, two knots of todd Some nights you know 1:10:23.840 --> 1:10:26.439 the title will be rage and will be you know, 1:10:27.280 --> 1:10:30.800 four or five knots almost. I mean that's fast. But 1:10:30.960 --> 1:10:33.800 I've seen it, And are you just cruising up and 1:10:33.880 --> 1:10:36.679 down keeping an eye on all the booties. Yeah, yeah, 1:10:36.720 --> 1:10:39.479 you gotta. Normally we'll go and throw all the booties, 1:10:39.520 --> 1:10:41.400 hang out, eat a sandwich, and then we'll kind of 1:10:41.439 --> 1:10:43.639 start going out to the end. Whatever fish we got, 1:10:44.320 --> 1:10:46.320 we'll catch them, throw them in the boat, clean them, 1:10:47.080 --> 1:10:49.960 and then pack them with ice, and then we'll go 1:10:50.080 --> 1:10:52.560 out and start checking them from the outside end. So 1:10:52.680 --> 1:10:54.160 how do you what tells you when one of these 1:10:54.200 --> 1:11:00.240 booties hits a fish? They'll go east west, um north outh. 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:03.640 I mean most of them somewhat. They will kind of 1:11:03.680 --> 1:11:06.800 have a line, you know, definitely have different currents where 1:11:06.880 --> 1:11:10.599 stuff just goes everywhere. And so so you're you knowing 1:11:10.640 --> 1:11:14.320 that the swordfishes hit one of them is not based 1:11:14.360 --> 1:11:16.640 on that it's bobbing, but just that it's traveling in 1:11:16.680 --> 1:11:19.720 a weird direction. Or you'll pull up to them, they'll 1:11:19.760 --> 1:11:23.000 be half you know, BULLI will be halfway underwater. You'll 1:11:23.000 --> 1:11:25.439 see it spinning like sometimes you know, you'll fish on 1:11:25.479 --> 1:11:28.080 there that are dead and they're not really pulling, so 1:11:28.200 --> 1:11:30.519 you won't see like a wake behind it, and buy 1:11:30.520 --> 1:11:32.479 you'll just kind of sit there and spin real slow 1:11:32.520 --> 1:11:35.280 as you're driving past it. And then you don't know, 1:11:35.600 --> 1:11:38.760 like there's something on there, and what's a big swordfish 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:45.800 and what's a small swordfish? Oh, I mean I caught 1:11:45.840 --> 1:11:47.880 one the other night. I don't think it weighed five pounds. 1:11:48.200 --> 1:11:50.439 Well that you find them that small, yeah, I mean 1:11:50.520 --> 1:11:53.040 not often. That was the smallest one I've ever seen. Yeah, 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:57.320 it was tiny. And at night do the sharks tear 1:11:57.439 --> 1:12:00.240 the swordfish up? Is it not as bad at night? Yeah? 1:12:00.280 --> 1:12:04.240 I've had it happen coupled maybe five or six times, 1:12:04.439 --> 1:12:07.639 but not too not too often. It's not as bad 1:12:07.640 --> 1:12:10.479 as it be in the daylight. Yeah, I've never had 1:12:10.479 --> 1:12:14.320 one really messed with in the daytime. So here's it's 1:12:14.360 --> 1:12:17.479 not that much of an issue now because you're talking 1:12:17.479 --> 1:12:21.080 about fishing yellow fin that they'll sometimes you'll lose fish 1:12:21.120 --> 1:12:24.120 to sharks. Oh yeah, those sharks are on the elephants 1:12:24.400 --> 1:12:27.360 and they got like a feeding frenzy going, and those 1:12:27.400 --> 1:12:29.760 tunas they'll pull off so much line. You're pumping them 1:12:29.840 --> 1:12:31.600 up and they're kind of a circle, like you know, 1:12:31.760 --> 1:12:34.000 spiraling up real slow, and them sharks will get on 1:12:34.160 --> 1:12:35.880 real bad. Got you, But they don't hit the sword 1:12:35.920 --> 1:12:38.120 fish that bad, not too much. And like, what's it 1:12:38.479 --> 1:12:41.040 so when you're out doing commercial sword fishing like this, 1:12:42.080 --> 1:12:45.360 what is like, what's what's a bad night and what's 1:12:45.360 --> 1:12:49.759 a good night? Bad nights obviously when you catch nothing, 1:12:49.800 --> 1:12:53.120 so that can happen, it's happened, I mean good night. 1:12:53.200 --> 1:12:56.479 You catch anything over five, it's good. I mean you 1:12:56.520 --> 1:12:59.880 catch over a thousand, it's real good. But you're talking 1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:02.840 dressed weight, all dressed out. Yeah, can you can you 1:13:02.920 --> 1:13:06.799 explain to people like how you dress the swordfish? Basically 1:13:07.040 --> 1:13:11.360 they're gutted. All the fins come off, the head comes off, 1:13:12.439 --> 1:13:15.679 and then they're gutted and every you know, heart, everything, 1:13:15.760 --> 1:13:18.240 everything on the inside comes out. And then there's a 1:13:18.280 --> 1:13:22.120 bloodline that goes from all the way to the head, 1:13:22.160 --> 1:13:24.040 all the way to as far back as like the 1:13:24.600 --> 1:13:27.200 gut cavity goes. You just take a knife and run 1:13:27.280 --> 1:13:29.960 it down there. Then there's a little bloodline. You can 1:13:30.040 --> 1:13:32.960 kind of stick your finger and pop that up. He's 1:13:32.960 --> 1:13:36.600 a little wire brush and just clean it out and 1:13:36.640 --> 1:13:38.760 then pack it and crushed ice. Yeah, just pack it 1:13:38.840 --> 1:13:41.360 with ice. And like what's the so when you talk 1:13:41.360 --> 1:13:45.200 about the weight that you're selling, you're talking about that weight. Yeah, 1:13:45.400 --> 1:13:46.880 what you could hit a word for what you call 1:13:46.960 --> 1:13:49.720 those things we call them, just say it's cord out, 1:13:50.000 --> 1:13:53.320 cord out, and you fill your coolers up, and you're 1:13:53.360 --> 1:13:58.960 not like in what would strike people as a commercial vessel. 1:13:59.080 --> 1:14:02.360 I mean you're like you're seven basically like a sport 1:14:02.400 --> 1:14:06.160 fishing boat, like a twenty seven ft sport fishing boat, right, Yeah, 1:14:06.160 --> 1:14:08.680 because I fish tournaments and I charter fish. I mean 1:14:08.720 --> 1:14:11.599 it's kind of like a you know, do all everything 1:14:11.720 --> 1:14:14.400 kind of. But but you can pack a thousand pounds 1:14:14.479 --> 1:14:18.600 of cord out, a thousand pounds of swordfish core on 1:14:18.720 --> 1:14:21.280 a boat and that's a good night out. That's a 1:14:21.360 --> 1:14:25.679 real good night. Yeah, Like the other night we caught pounds. 1:14:25.720 --> 1:14:28.600 I mean we had all fish packed there. Anywhere you 1:14:28.640 --> 1:14:30.800 can have a box and ice in it, we had 1:14:30.880 --> 1:14:33.519 fish in it. And then that's a really good night. 1:14:33.640 --> 1:14:37.360 That's the best night I ever had. And then you 1:14:37.479 --> 1:14:40.719 take them in and how do you sell them? Basically 1:14:40.840 --> 1:14:43.680 just pull up out of the fish market. Obviously, I'll 1:14:43.720 --> 1:14:45.840 leave all the fish in my boat. Makes a lot easier. 1:14:45.840 --> 1:14:47.920 You ain't got to touch them two three times. But 1:14:49.080 --> 1:14:50.680 you pull up here, you pull your boat out of 1:14:50.720 --> 1:14:52.320 the water and put it on a trailer, and I'll 1:14:52.360 --> 1:14:55.200 just drive it over the fish market and then um, 1:14:55.720 --> 1:14:57.320 and you know the price before you go out and 1:14:57.400 --> 1:15:00.559 do this. No, sometimes you get screwed a little bit. 1:15:01.000 --> 1:15:03.120 But I mean, if you've got a lot of fish, 1:15:03.240 --> 1:15:06.479 there's it's hard to get rid of him other places, 1:15:06.640 --> 1:15:10.080 or you don't have a wholesale retail license or whatever. 1:15:10.200 --> 1:15:12.200 So I just saw them my fish at the same spot. 1:15:13.120 --> 1:15:15.000 Makes it easy to drop them off when you're done, 1:15:15.360 --> 1:15:17.240 and there's you don't have a contract about what the 1:15:17.320 --> 1:15:20.280 price is going to be. No, basically you go in, 1:15:20.560 --> 1:15:23.920 you you pull all the fish out of her boat 1:15:24.760 --> 1:15:26.839 and then you know, they got like a little scale 1:15:27.200 --> 1:15:29.720 or whatever, it's a big scale. They go and they 1:15:29.800 --> 1:15:31.720 put the fish on there. They'll cut the tail, see 1:15:31.720 --> 1:15:34.200 if it's got color or whatever, and check the bloodline 1:15:34.760 --> 1:15:36.439 and then they'll grade it. What do you mean, what 1:15:36.520 --> 1:15:40.000 Steven's got color? Um, Well, you have some fish that 1:15:40.040 --> 1:15:43.599 will be like like a white fish, which obviously that's 1:15:43.680 --> 1:15:46.760 kind of like a little bit lesser per pound. Oh, 1:15:46.960 --> 1:15:52.120 the white are less the more they call it peach 1:15:52.880 --> 1:15:56.679 or you know, they'll say light peach, peach, orange orange 1:15:56.720 --> 1:16:00.639 obviously being the best whatever it because they eate those 1:16:00.640 --> 1:16:03.680 world red shrimpoint that fish we caught today and it 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:09.880 dies the flesh that color so different makes for a 1:16:09.960 --> 1:16:13.320 fattier fish. And that's why maybe it's more expensive when 1:16:13.360 --> 1:16:15.320 the color is in it. I don't know. I think 1:16:15.360 --> 1:16:18.439 it's more of like a sweeter taste or something. I mean, 1:16:18.479 --> 1:16:21.599 you don't really see too much fat, not like a tuna, 1:16:21.960 --> 1:16:23.840 you know how you have like fat content in the 1:16:23.880 --> 1:16:26.400 meat or there is, and you just can't really see it. 1:16:26.479 --> 1:16:28.439 I mean, I don't really know what they all look 1:16:28.520 --> 1:16:31.320 for for that, but but it's just the guy's judgment 1:16:31.360 --> 1:16:33.639 call when he's buying your fish. Yeah, and he grades 1:16:33.760 --> 1:16:37.519 every fish, especially like on the skin color. If you 1:16:37.600 --> 1:16:40.320 throw a harpoon through the side, you know, because you're 1:16:40.360 --> 1:16:42.479 dead ruin some kind of meat right there because you 1:16:42.560 --> 1:16:45.360 put a hole in it. Then the harpoon turned sideways. Yeah, 1:16:45.360 --> 1:16:47.240 we should probably back up and talk about that because 1:16:47.280 --> 1:16:49.160 we didn't. I meant to cover that a little bit. 1:16:49.360 --> 1:16:53.479 So your your cruise long and here's a booty booking 1:16:53.520 --> 1:16:57.000 off in some weird direction. What do you do? Just 1:16:57.160 --> 1:16:59.400 pull up on the ball and you'll have a basket 1:16:59.479 --> 1:17:03.000 of rope with a clip on it, and you'll clip 1:17:03.200 --> 1:17:07.240 actually clip the basket onto the line and pull the 1:17:07.280 --> 1:17:10.479 booty off. So that basically so to get the booty 1:17:10.520 --> 1:17:12.679 out of the way. Yeah, that's basically like you're rotten 1:17:12.720 --> 1:17:15.719 reil because you're hand fishing. You know, everything's with your hands. 1:17:16.160 --> 1:17:18.360 So that's basically like your real and your extra line. 1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:21.320 You know, fish wants to take line, and that's kind 1:17:21.360 --> 1:17:23.000 of how that works. So first thing, it's ditched the 1:17:23.000 --> 1:17:26.400 buoy and get the whole thing attached to another long line. Right, 1:17:27.080 --> 1:17:29.479 that's a thick enough rope to handle. Yeah, it's pretty 1:17:29.560 --> 1:17:32.160 much the same. It's the same as um what the 1:17:32.240 --> 1:17:34.920 dry we call it a drop, you know, the tar 1:17:35.080 --> 1:17:37.719 line that comes off the ball. It's just a giant 1:17:37.800 --> 1:17:40.519 basket of that. So then you got them and you 1:17:40.600 --> 1:17:43.600 start to try to jack them up pulling them, and 1:17:43.680 --> 1:17:45.840 they put up a tussle when you start pulling on them. Yeah, 1:17:45.920 --> 1:17:48.040 I mean sometimes you know, you can't get around to 1:17:48.120 --> 1:17:50.760 them fast enough and they're dead. I mean we've pulled 1:17:50.840 --> 1:17:53.920 up and two pounders dead. And it's makes it real 1:17:54.040 --> 1:17:56.880 nice and easy because he just i mean, he hasn't 1:17:56.880 --> 1:17:59.840 been dead that long. No, I mean, just you know, 1:18:00.560 --> 1:18:02.840 sometimes I mean, you you know, you hook them kind 1:18:02.840 --> 1:18:06.280 of deep or whatever. You know, sometimes they get wrapped up, 1:18:06.479 --> 1:18:09.200 you know, tail hooked, and you know they do die, 1:18:09.880 --> 1:18:12.679 but he's still marketable because it's only been so long. Yeah, 1:18:13.040 --> 1:18:15.839 I got you. So the ones that are still frisky, 1:18:17.000 --> 1:18:20.240 you bring them up and then gaff them or harpoon them, 1:18:20.280 --> 1:18:22.800 depending on his temperament and size. Yeah, I mean, if 1:18:22.840 --> 1:18:25.040 it's a big fish, I mean most of all the 1:18:25.080 --> 1:18:27.640 big fish with harpoon them just it's kind of like 1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:30.120 an insurance thing, you know, and try to hit him 1:18:30.160 --> 1:18:32.519 up in the head. Yeah, you try. I mean, fit's 1:18:32.560 --> 1:18:34.920 a big fish, you try to get it wherever you can, 1:18:35.120 --> 1:18:39.360 just for insurance or if you know. Sometimes fish will 1:18:39.360 --> 1:18:42.519 be swimming around the boat and never ate anything, and 1:18:42.800 --> 1:18:45.400 sometimes you get an opportunity to you know, throw a 1:18:45.479 --> 1:18:48.920 harpoon out a free swimmer. I mean, so you'll just 1:18:49.000 --> 1:18:51.280 be looking in the light and you'll see swordfish for 1:18:51.360 --> 1:18:54.920 whatever reason. What are they drawn to the light? H 1:18:55.360 --> 1:18:57.439 I think it's more you know, you'll have other fish 1:18:57.520 --> 1:19:00.160 on you know, you'll sometimes you'll have a swim all 1:19:00.240 --> 1:19:02.360 er fish and a bigger fish, or you got a 1:19:02.400 --> 1:19:04.240 bigger fish on the line, you'll have a little bit 1:19:04.280 --> 1:19:06.920 smaller fish with them, you know, because it's like a 1:19:07.360 --> 1:19:10.240 male female thing. You know, normally it's a bigger fish 1:19:10.800 --> 1:19:13.160 as your female than your smaller fish is the male. 1:19:14.800 --> 1:19:16.439 So you'll just all of a sudden realize here's a 1:19:16.479 --> 1:19:19.600 sword for swimming by, and you'll grab your harpoon and 1:19:20.040 --> 1:19:22.639 stick them with the harpoon sometimes when you get lucky. Yeah, 1:19:23.000 --> 1:19:25.920 Like how often does that happen? A few times a year? 1:19:26.720 --> 1:19:29.479 Not all the time, but it happens, and you're throwing 1:19:29.520 --> 1:19:32.840 the harpoon or jabbing it. If they're close enough, you 1:19:32.880 --> 1:19:34.479 can just jab them. I mean, if they're a little 1:19:34.479 --> 1:19:36.760 deeper far or whatever, you know, you just throw it 1:19:37.479 --> 1:19:38.880 and just see if you can get them. And you 1:19:38.960 --> 1:19:41.080 got another basket with I mean I got like a 1:19:41.120 --> 1:19:44.160 thousand foot or open a basket too. Just yeah, because 1:19:44.240 --> 1:19:48.040 then he's not played out at all. He's just gonna run. Yeah, 1:19:48.320 --> 1:19:49.800 depends where you hit him with me. If you hit 1:19:49.840 --> 1:19:51.800 him kind of far back or something like that, you 1:19:51.880 --> 1:19:54.679 know you're gonna they'll be pulling on him for a while, 1:19:55.280 --> 1:19:59.000 and events you drag them up and then you put 1:19:59.040 --> 1:20:00.720 a gap in the drag more the side of the boat. 1:20:01.760 --> 1:20:05.080 Then we picked up all the cleaning. So to move 1:20:05.160 --> 1:20:08.439 us back into the future where we belong. You go down. 1:20:08.600 --> 1:20:10.760 This fish guy comes in and takes each fish and 1:20:10.840 --> 1:20:12.760 says like he wants to judge the color on it 1:20:13.520 --> 1:20:18.320 general condition, and then what does he do? Then they 1:20:18.439 --> 1:20:21.920 just they have a giant floor basically, and it's just 1:20:23.640 --> 1:20:27.760 actually it's kind of like um plastic pallets and they 1:20:27.840 --> 1:20:29.760 have all you know, laid out and then they just 1:20:30.640 --> 1:20:32.880 stack fish on there where there's ice under them, and 1:20:32.880 --> 1:20:36.000 they you know, covering with ice. They put like a 1:20:36.840 --> 1:20:39.160 you know, whatever your boat name is. They have like 1:20:39.200 --> 1:20:41.519 a little tag on a number for however much the 1:20:41.560 --> 1:20:44.519 fish wade. You know, they're calling and trying to sell 1:20:44.600 --> 1:20:46.080 the fish, and they'll go in there, pick it and 1:20:46.800 --> 1:20:49.160 put ice in a box and ship it offered. And 1:20:49.240 --> 1:20:52.439 they're selling fish at the same time. Yeah, like the 1:20:52.479 --> 1:20:55.120 other night that we're we're catching fish and we had 1:20:55.120 --> 1:20:57.679 a couple of nice fish that you know, they're pumpkin 1:20:58.760 --> 1:21:02.000 and they're puking colored. Yeah, and I mean most people 1:21:02.120 --> 1:21:05.120 want those, so they sell real quick for you know, 1:21:05.320 --> 1:21:08.120 a little more money. They were already taking and pack 1:21:08.200 --> 1:21:10.639 them in boxes getting random ship and we ain't even 1:21:11.240 --> 1:21:14.400 off float all our fish yet. So it's that fast 1:21:14.479 --> 1:21:19.880 turnaround sometimes and then he he rates every fish, weighs 1:21:19.920 --> 1:21:22.240 every fish, and then you just get he just cut 1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:25.559 you a check. Yeah in like two weeks. Oh yeah, 1:21:25.600 --> 1:21:30.800 that's only catch, so you don't have a fift pound 1:21:30.960 --> 1:21:33.360 night and then just go out and just walk out 1:21:33.400 --> 1:21:35.240 of there in the check in your pocket, which is 1:21:35.360 --> 1:21:40.160 make it seem kind of nice. Now, normally it's like 1:21:40.200 --> 1:21:42.000 a week and by the time they you know, put 1:21:42.040 --> 1:21:43.719 it in the mail, you got it normally in about 1:21:43.720 --> 1:21:47.680 two weeks. So how much will the price fluctuate from 1:21:47.760 --> 1:21:49.920 day to day? Like, is it moving all the time? 1:21:50.040 --> 1:21:52.320 Is like most commodity trading where it's just like up 1:21:52.320 --> 1:21:54.680 and down, up and down most less swords, I mean, 1:21:54.760 --> 1:22:00.200 it's kind of it stays pretty level around like September over, 1:22:00.280 --> 1:22:02.920 I mean it gets a little low. I mean then uh, 1:22:04.200 --> 1:22:06.559 And you're saying when the guys start harpooning in the North, 1:22:07.360 --> 1:22:10.320 it drives the price dead, drives the price down huge. 1:22:10.800 --> 1:22:12.679 And plus I know there's a bunch of long line 1:22:12.720 --> 1:22:16.080 boats fishing up there too, like on the Grand Banks 1:22:16.200 --> 1:22:18.840 or whatever. I mean, they're catching a lot of fish too. 1:22:19.320 --> 1:22:22.160 So now that like this winter time in the North, 1:22:23.200 --> 1:22:25.400 your prices are good, there's not a lot of fish 1:22:25.479 --> 1:22:27.479 coming out of the north. Yeah. Normally right around like 1:22:27.600 --> 1:22:30.280 Thanksgiving time, the price goes back to like normal, or 1:22:31.000 --> 1:22:32.880 you know, depending on the weather, if it's been rough 1:22:32.920 --> 1:22:38.600 for a long time, you know wherever, then they'll you know, 1:22:38.640 --> 1:22:42.160 the price goes up a little higher. I forget whatever 1:22:42.280 --> 1:22:44.840 that holiday is where everybody eats fish, lent or something 1:22:44.920 --> 1:22:48.160 like that. Like that fish just goes through the roof 1:22:48.200 --> 1:22:50.519 around that, does it. Yeah, So if you got fish, 1:22:50.600 --> 1:22:54.360 I mean definitely making some extra money off them. There's 1:22:54.479 --> 1:22:57.400 enough people observing lent to drive up sword fish prices. 1:22:57.520 --> 1:23:01.240 I mean, all fish, every fish, any whatever is fighting 1:23:01.280 --> 1:23:04.240 at that time. Fish prices just go through the roof. 1:23:04.760 --> 1:23:06.479 And this is some of the you're saying today, this 1:23:06.560 --> 1:23:08.240 is some of the best sword fishing you've ever seen 1:23:08.360 --> 1:23:12.719 right now, Yeah, the last couple of weeks, perhaps because 1:23:12.760 --> 1:23:17.599 the weather up north, let's push fish down. So today 1:23:17.640 --> 1:23:19.439 we went out, So we go out to fish today. 1:23:19.479 --> 1:23:22.080 That's what you're doing at night when you're out commercial fishing. 1:23:22.720 --> 1:23:25.840 And we went out today and went out to about 1:23:25.880 --> 1:23:29.479 ft of water and explain the rig we fish today, 1:23:29.560 --> 1:23:31.560 like how like how you rigged up and how we 1:23:31.640 --> 1:23:36.000 fished it. Basic fish electric rail. It's called an LP 1:23:37.200 --> 1:23:40.400 that's just it's an LPs twelve dred that's the type 1:23:40.400 --> 1:23:45.800 of electric rail. It is loaded with fet ds. I'm sorry. 1:23:46.840 --> 1:23:50.519 Yards of pound breaks, which is a shipload of money 1:23:50.560 --> 1:23:52.800 worth a braided line. Yeah, it's a couple hundred bucks. 1:23:54.000 --> 1:23:58.120 And then um, from there, whatever kind of rodded. Some 1:23:58.200 --> 1:24:00.600 people like a long road, some people like one, some 1:24:00.800 --> 1:24:05.720 like stuffed soft. I mean it's whatever they like. But um, 1:24:06.400 --> 1:24:08.719 you got a rod, you got the sixty five pound tests. 1:24:09.040 --> 1:24:11.599 Do like a little bamny twist, which is the knot 1:24:11.800 --> 1:24:15.120 makes a loop, and then you put a wind on leader. 1:24:15.960 --> 1:24:18.760 Use the knots called a cat's ball. And when you 1:24:18.800 --> 1:24:20.080 say the wind on it used to be like a 1:24:20.160 --> 1:24:23.559 big long lead, it's a hundred foot lead, right yeah, 1:24:23.840 --> 1:24:27.240 but there's no swevel from your braided line to your 1:24:27.280 --> 1:24:30.640 wind on leader. So you'll tie a beaminy twist and 1:24:30.760 --> 1:24:32.519 at that wind on leader, I'll have a loop and 1:24:32.560 --> 1:24:36.200 the knot you tie it's called cat's paw. And then uh, 1:24:36.479 --> 1:24:38.439 why do you not want? Oh, you don't want because 1:24:38.520 --> 1:24:39.800 you need to be able to reel the whole kind 1:24:39.840 --> 1:24:41.720 of come on the rail. I got you, I got you, 1:24:42.400 --> 1:24:45.000 and uh, so wind on leader means you don't need 1:24:45.040 --> 1:24:48.280 to stop at a big barrel swivel. You gotta stop. 1:24:48.640 --> 1:24:50.640 You gotta stop at the lead, Yeah, and pull and 1:24:50.680 --> 1:24:52.880 pull the lead off and basically from that not it's 1:24:53.080 --> 1:24:55.640 whatever three or four ft and then you gotta um 1:24:56.680 --> 1:24:59.320 use wax line, make a little loop on there to 1:24:59.439 --> 1:25:02.240 put your leg, which you use a longline clip, and 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:04.640 whatever pound moon that you want to use. Yeah, and 1:25:04.640 --> 1:25:06.639 you got a ten pound lead, and from that ten 1:25:06.720 --> 1:25:10.080 pound lead, it's like in simple terms, it's like you 1:25:10.160 --> 1:25:11.800 got the reel in the rod and then you got 1:25:12.040 --> 1:25:16.719 sixty five pound test braided line down to ten pounds 1:25:16.760 --> 1:25:20.400 of lead and then one feet of leader. Yeah, I 1:25:20.520 --> 1:25:22.920 think it's about one fifty as what was on there today. 1:25:23.760 --> 1:25:26.320 And then the bait it's a it's a standard. It's 1:25:26.360 --> 1:25:29.719 like a j hook with a skirt and then piece 1:25:29.760 --> 1:25:32.320 of bonito on it. Yeah, it's just like a they 1:25:32.400 --> 1:25:34.599 call like a Panama strip. It's kind of what kind 1:25:34.640 --> 1:25:38.920 of Patos cut cut as you know. Sometimes you'll say 1:25:38.960 --> 1:25:42.439 a belly strap. Some people say some people actually just 1:25:42.479 --> 1:25:45.400 cut a strip, but that's called a Panama strap. Got 1:25:45.520 --> 1:25:49.880 you and you're sending this thing downet down because you 1:25:49.920 --> 1:25:52.000 wanted like a hundred feet off the bottom, because you 1:25:52.040 --> 1:25:54.679 got a hundred leader, The leads a hundred fifty ft 1:25:54.720 --> 1:25:57.880 off the bottom. Right, the leads a hundred fifty ft. 1:25:57.880 --> 1:26:00.439 I'd imagine your hooks. You know where you're bait is. 1:26:00.520 --> 1:26:03.360 It's a little under it. It's a picture like these 1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:05.519 guys want this rig to lay out flat. You can't 1:26:05.560 --> 1:26:07.559 just like open the bail on the reel and send 1:26:07.600 --> 1:26:11.320 the whole thing down. It's gonna be a mess, yeah, 1:26:11.360 --> 1:26:13.920 because the lead is gonna be leading the way, and 1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:16.120 the whole leader is just gonna spiral around the main 1:26:16.240 --> 1:26:21.040 line and be screwed. So they lay the rig, They 1:26:21.160 --> 1:26:23.160 lay the leader out, get the lead in the water, 1:26:23.360 --> 1:26:29.439 and then motor and run. Meanwhile, the leads fallen, but 1:26:29.479 --> 1:26:31.720 they're driving away from the lead until they get the 1:26:31.800 --> 1:26:34.400 right amount of line out. Then you swing the boat 1:26:34.439 --> 1:26:37.760 around and come back at the point you started at 1:26:38.800 --> 1:26:42.240 so that that whole thing falls smooth and doesn't get 1:26:42.280 --> 1:26:50.479 all wrapped up. And then there you are five football 1:26:50.600 --> 1:26:55.640 fields of line out dangling around somewhere down at the 1:26:55.680 --> 1:26:59.200 bottom of the ocean. Right, and the swordfish hits and 1:26:59.240 --> 1:27:01.679 it looks like there's a bluegill messing with it. Yeah, 1:27:02.360 --> 1:27:05.479 today them things barely even tapped it. Like you can't. 1:27:05.880 --> 1:27:08.320 You would think, so how big was the biggest we 1:27:08.400 --> 1:27:10.519 had a We had an eighty five pound swordfish. Yeah, 1:27:10.560 --> 1:27:12.360 we had one und Ay five and other and like 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:16.200 you would think that thing would take that thing out 1:27:16.240 --> 1:27:19.960 of the rod holder. But we're staring at it. You 1:27:20.040 --> 1:27:22.320 guys are staring at it debating whether there was a 1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:26.120 hit or not. It is just like, like so much 1:27:26.200 --> 1:27:31.200 gets lost in that amount of line, even though braid 1:27:31.360 --> 1:27:35.000 is so like sensitive and like like transmits signals so well. 1:27:35.040 --> 1:27:38.280 I always think like like if we're jigging hallibut two 1:27:38.320 --> 1:27:41.439 hundred fifty ft of water, you can take a you 1:27:41.479 --> 1:27:43.799 can take a twelve bounce lead ball and hit the bottom. 1:27:43.800 --> 1:27:47.920 I can tell you what the bottoms like, rocky soft, right, 1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:51.400 It's like it transmitts, it transmits that well. But when 1:27:51.439 --> 1:27:54.599 you get that much line out, it's an eighty five 1:27:54.680 --> 1:27:58.519 pound fish down there hitting a bait the most way 1:27:58.560 --> 1:28:04.559 half a pound and it's barely registers on that rod. Yeah, 1:28:04.600 --> 1:28:06.400 that's a pretty stiff rod too. I mean if you 1:28:06.479 --> 1:28:09.160 use a little something a little bit lighter, I mean 1:28:09.240 --> 1:28:10.760 you'll see a little more of it, like a tip 1:28:10.840 --> 1:28:14.200 bounce or something, you know, I like a little bit 1:28:14.720 --> 1:28:18.560 you know, longer, heavier rod okay, And then when that 1:28:18.680 --> 1:28:21.439 thing hits you don't take it out of the rod holder. No, 1:28:22.040 --> 1:28:25.160 you throw the switch and it takes about what how 1:28:25.200 --> 1:28:29.800 many minutes? I don't know, probably about ten minutes or so. 1:28:31.040 --> 1:28:38.000 That man, ten twelve minutes, twenty minutes. That long, that's 1:28:38.040 --> 1:28:43.040 what it is, because like you're fift of water, but 1:28:43.080 --> 1:28:45.439 there's like some scope and belly, like there's some scope 1:28:45.439 --> 1:28:47.680 in the line or some belly in the line. So 1:28:47.880 --> 1:28:53.519 the read out on that real says yeah, and you 1:28:53.600 --> 1:28:56.519 gotta sit there and watch that thing count down. That's 1:28:56.560 --> 1:28:58.760 what takes for so long. If you just look away, 1:28:58.840 --> 1:29:01.639 eventually it would come along quicker. I would like, do look, 1:29:01.680 --> 1:29:04.080 and they'd be like sevent d feet look and then 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:05.720 a while later, but then pretty soon it gets like 1:29:05.800 --> 1:29:08.120 three feet and then he started getting excited at one 1:29:08.560 --> 1:29:11.479 feet here comes the lead. I have personal experience with 1:29:11.640 --> 1:29:19.080 looking away because second fish today, I wasn't looking at 1:29:19.120 --> 1:29:22.200 my watch, but it still felt like a long time. Yeah. 1:29:22.800 --> 1:29:25.320 I was hanging on the off the tea top going 1:29:25.400 --> 1:29:32.639 there's like, man, I think still hasn't come. I wasn't 1:29:32.640 --> 1:29:36.200 gonna return to me like having of me like sort 1:29:36.240 --> 1:29:39.080 of like slowly falling out of love with the honest 1:29:39.240 --> 1:29:43.920 and couldn't find it in himself to take interest in 1:29:44.000 --> 1:29:46.680 our fish. That we were I can't say we were 1:29:46.760 --> 1:29:49.240 fighting it, but that we were, that we were watching 1:29:49.400 --> 1:29:52.479 the thing play out. A lot of people would hate 1:29:52.520 --> 1:29:56.080 that kind of fishing. Yeah, like I was trying to 1:29:56.160 --> 1:29:58.519 tell you it is kind of boring, you know, there's 1:29:58.560 --> 1:30:02.320 not I was that those people aren't very smart. I mean, 1:30:02.400 --> 1:30:05.240 I like it, especially when you see a big one. 1:30:05.280 --> 1:30:07.160 You know, you see when it come up, you know, 1:30:07.360 --> 1:30:11.080 three or four or five pounds, and it's it's pretty cool, 1:30:11.120 --> 1:30:13.640 that's what you know. It's like going deer hunting. You know, 1:30:13.920 --> 1:30:15.599 you go somewhere where you can go shoot a bunch 1:30:15.600 --> 1:30:18.120 of lower ones, or you go, you know, spend the 1:30:18.200 --> 1:30:20.000 time track hill big one. It's kind of the same. 1:30:20.960 --> 1:30:25.800 To me. It's like it's like, um, it's like you're 1:30:25.920 --> 1:30:30.040 transmitting signals into outer space when you're fishing that deep, 1:30:31.600 --> 1:30:33.519 you know. I mean, it's like it's hard to even 1:30:33.600 --> 1:30:37.559 imagine yourself being on the same planet as the fish 1:30:38.439 --> 1:30:42.160 when you're fishing for a fish feet away. Some people 1:30:42.240 --> 1:30:44.120 like and I like the immediacy to like I like 1:30:44.240 --> 1:30:47.639 sight casting to fish, which is fun. But I also 1:30:47.720 --> 1:30:51.800 like when you're sort of it's like talking to et man, 1:30:52.600 --> 1:30:55.000 like when you're when you're like got that much line 1:30:55.000 --> 1:30:56.920 out and you can't even picture what it looks like 1:30:57.000 --> 1:31:00.720 down there. They're in another word, old man. They're in 1:31:00.760 --> 1:31:05.680 the black. They really are nearly black. It's like, but 1:31:05.800 --> 1:31:08.320 you're up here in the sunshine looking, you know, watching 1:31:08.360 --> 1:31:12.680 your honest and down there is like yeah, and and 1:31:12.760 --> 1:31:16.479 then fifteen hundred feet away at the bottom of like 1:31:18.320 --> 1:31:20.800 in the ocean. You know, you can't go down there 1:31:20.800 --> 1:31:23.599 with scuba tanks. He's just down in some other planet 1:31:24.000 --> 1:31:25.960 that obviously you throw that switch and all of a sudden, 1:31:26.000 --> 1:31:29.439 here he is back up in your world. I love it. 1:31:29.920 --> 1:31:31.759 It's cool when they come up to they're all silver 1:31:31.880 --> 1:31:33.519 and purple, and then they had the deck and then 1:31:33.520 --> 1:31:38.040 they're just like brown looking. It's like crazy how they 1:31:38.120 --> 1:31:41.520 changed colors that fast too. Yeah, it's it's pretty remarkable. 1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:44.160 I liked it. And we had one like I don't 1:31:44.160 --> 1:31:45.400 know how long do you think we had the first 1:31:45.439 --> 1:31:49.439 set out for I don't know, you're watching your watch, 1:31:49.520 --> 1:31:55.479 it was about minutes. How far do we drift? I 1:31:55.520 --> 1:31:57.360 don't even think it was a mile. We didn't even 1:31:57.400 --> 1:32:01.840 drift a mile. And then the second time we sat down, 1:32:02.000 --> 1:32:04.360 I mean the minute it got down, Yeah, taught us, 1:32:04.400 --> 1:32:07.040 I'll make a short drift for you, like we gotta 1:32:07.120 --> 1:32:09.680 drop one more time. Though it took longer to get 1:32:09.720 --> 1:32:11.800 it down than it did for the fish to be 1:32:11.880 --> 1:32:16.200 on there, and byam another swordfish. I thought I was 1:32:16.400 --> 1:32:18.439 I thought I was tripping out. I thought I've seen something. 1:32:18.520 --> 1:32:23.679 I'm like maybe, and then it really was. It places 1:32:23.720 --> 1:32:25.519 tricks on me too, especially when you sit there for 1:32:25.560 --> 1:32:27.760 a couple of hours, you're like, well that was a 1:32:27.800 --> 1:32:31.120 bite because what you're watching, like there's wave action. So 1:32:32.400 --> 1:32:35.679 as you're riding up on a swell that the rod loads, 1:32:36.439 --> 1:32:38.000 and then you get to the top of the swell 1:32:38.439 --> 1:32:41.520 and the rods sort of the rod sort of relaxes 1:32:41.560 --> 1:32:45.799 and go straight and then you and then it loads. 1:32:45.840 --> 1:32:48.280 Then you start to drop down and the rod goes 1:32:48.439 --> 1:32:51.439 sort of slack and falls and then repeats itself, and 1:32:51.479 --> 1:32:53.519 you kind of memorize the cycle, and you're looking for 1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:58.080 like an interruption in the cycle, and the interruption could 1:32:58.120 --> 1:33:01.479 be on the ride up, there's like go a pause 1:33:02.520 --> 1:33:05.760 as the swell brings you up, or on the drop down, 1:33:06.040 --> 1:33:09.200 it's like a like a stutter, and that's all you're 1:33:09.200 --> 1:33:13.400 really looking for. Sometimes you don't see it all. You 1:33:13.479 --> 1:33:15.560 look over and the row just buckled over and you're like, 1:33:15.640 --> 1:33:18.040 oh god, him on hit the You're like, oh, that's cool. 1:33:19.240 --> 1:33:23.280 Caught me sleeping, but caught him sleeping. You know, like 1:33:23.680 --> 1:33:27.120 you guys like to fish crapp ease, right, Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, 1:33:27.439 --> 1:33:29.120 But it's like I like to I fish a lot 1:33:29.160 --> 1:33:31.800 of small fish, but I would like to fish for 1:33:31.840 --> 1:33:34.880 big fish, like we like to catch halib it. But 1:33:35.040 --> 1:33:37.720 when you spend all that time fishing small fish and 1:33:37.800 --> 1:33:41.679 then you catch a swordfish that big, which isn't even huge, 1:33:41.760 --> 1:33:44.400 but like it's a swordfish and there kind of like 1:33:44.520 --> 1:33:48.880 all meat, they have a high yield. I start picturing 1:33:48.920 --> 1:33:50.519 if I was gonna take all that meat and make 1:33:50.600 --> 1:33:54.479 a pile and then start flaying yellow perch, and I 1:33:54.560 --> 1:33:57.360 had to flay enough yellow perch to match that pile. 1:33:59.120 --> 1:34:02.080 It makes me feel like small fish don't make sense, 1:34:03.640 --> 1:34:07.160 don't It's about a bite of file at. It's like, yeah, 1:34:07.240 --> 1:34:09.920 if if someone said, okay, you clean perch until you've 1:34:10.000 --> 1:34:15.120 matched those piles up, or clean croppy until you make 1:34:15.200 --> 1:34:16.960 me a pile of meat. The size of the pilo 1:34:17.040 --> 1:34:20.479 meat we got off the small swordfish would be a 1:34:20.600 --> 1:34:28.599 couple of hundred hundreds of crop. We speck fish all 1:34:28.640 --> 1:34:31.760 season and probably won't even amount the one fish one 1:34:31.840 --> 1:34:34.960 sword fish. One of the things too, like, you know, 1:34:36.640 --> 1:34:39.639 I'm a freshwater guy, you know the you know, I've 1:34:39.640 --> 1:34:43.920 been out with Ryan, I'm a gladesman and uh but 1:34:44.080 --> 1:34:46.800 I will say that my other the passion for me 1:34:46.920 --> 1:34:49.679 in saltwater and is going with him and bootie fishing 1:34:50.280 --> 1:34:53.640 the night time because when you you know, I've been 1:34:53.680 --> 1:34:55.840 with him a few times and then I went with him, 1:34:55.920 --> 1:34:57.600 just me and him, and got the you know, I 1:34:57.720 --> 1:35:00.200 made it for him. And you when you grow that 1:35:00.320 --> 1:35:03.439 line on a big fish and you're you grab you know, 1:35:03.479 --> 1:35:06.559 and I fought, you know, hunt gators, you know, fought 1:35:06.600 --> 1:35:08.639 gators in that. But when you grab a sword fish 1:35:09.200 --> 1:35:11.439 and you're pulling that line, you you know, and I'm 1:35:11.600 --> 1:35:13.960 a pretty big guy when I grab you know, when 1:35:14.000 --> 1:35:15.880 you grab ahold of him and you actually feel the 1:35:15.960 --> 1:35:19.360 power that that fish has you, you don't got nothing 1:35:19.439 --> 1:35:21.840 for him there you know, and that's what he you know, 1:35:21.880 --> 1:35:23.519 when when I went out with him, he's like, look, 1:35:23.560 --> 1:35:25.439 you know I was trying. He says, Look, when he 1:35:25.479 --> 1:35:27.479 wants to go, let him go because you ain't gonna 1:35:27.520 --> 1:35:31.599 stop him. You know, when they are there, pretty gnarly fish, 1:35:31.640 --> 1:35:33.800 when they want to go, they got you know powerful, 1:35:34.000 --> 1:35:37.240 that's what. Oh, there's something like really shocking about him. Yeah, 1:35:37.479 --> 1:35:39.880 it's like a prehistoric fish kind of comes up with 1:35:39.920 --> 1:35:43.200 that blade, yeah, sticking out of his nose. Yeah. And 1:35:43.280 --> 1:35:44.960 then when you got you know, when we went and 1:35:45.040 --> 1:35:47.320 you you know, even we harpooned him and then gaffed 1:35:47.400 --> 1:35:49.240 him and get him in the boat and they go, 1:35:49.560 --> 1:35:53.000 you know, nuts in the boat and that bill gets going. 1:35:53.080 --> 1:35:56.600 It's just I don't know, that's you know. If I 1:35:56.640 --> 1:35:59.719 would say I like to go, I'm like total opposite. 1:35:59.760 --> 1:36:02.400 All either like to go bass fishing or I want 1:36:02.400 --> 1:36:04.080 to go sword fish and I don't have no interest 1:36:04.160 --> 1:36:07.080 in the troll and the you know, sailfish and nothing 1:36:07.120 --> 1:36:09.280 like that. I want to go pull handgear. Yeah. You 1:36:09.280 --> 1:36:11.320 either want to finesse a large mouth and let him 1:36:11.360 --> 1:36:17.880 go or stick a harpoon and fish you know there. 1:36:18.520 --> 1:36:20.920 It's just something like you were saying like et it's 1:36:20.920 --> 1:36:23.599 at something like out of the world. When you even 1:36:23.680 --> 1:36:25.600 with the booties, you know you're pulling on him, you 1:36:25.640 --> 1:36:27.000 don't see him, and then all of a sudden when 1:36:27.040 --> 1:36:28.800 he lights up in the light of the boat and 1:36:28.880 --> 1:36:30.960 you see him, it's like, you know, it's like when 1:36:30.960 --> 1:36:33.240 you see a big buck, your heart like you know, 1:36:33.320 --> 1:36:35.800 skips a beat for a minute. Yeah, you know, I 1:36:36.000 --> 1:36:40.439 exaggarly Tom about man watching a big fish come out 1:36:40.520 --> 1:36:44.320 of the depths is like kind of awe inspiring and 1:36:44.400 --> 1:36:48.280 like surprising. Yeah, has has that go away? Now that 1:36:48.320 --> 1:36:50.160 you've done it so long? I mean as long as 1:36:50.160 --> 1:36:51.880 you could be doing it, not because I was plugging 1:36:51.920 --> 1:36:54.800 you guys as being single fellers mid twenties. You're both 1:36:54.800 --> 1:37:02.240 in your mid twenties. Yeah, I'm twenty nine. What's uh? 1:37:02.479 --> 1:37:08.040 I should ask um? What's your window? Right? Like? I 1:37:08.040 --> 1:37:10.920 always figured my window personally, like like whatever if I 1:37:11.000 --> 1:37:14.439 imagine like my window, I was always being like generally 1:37:15.040 --> 1:37:17.240 I would be imagining that it would be within five 1:37:17.360 --> 1:37:19.640 years of my age, like when I was before I 1:37:19.760 --> 1:37:22.160 was married, before I met my wife said, if you 1:37:22.240 --> 1:37:25.439 had to guess how old would this potential spouse be, 1:37:26.120 --> 1:37:28.920 I would say I'd bet she's you know, I'm not 1:37:29.000 --> 1:37:32.960 gonna be younger than five years younger me, but probably 1:37:33.000 --> 1:37:35.160 not older than five years older because that was a 1:37:35.280 --> 1:37:39.400 substantial window. That's a ten year window. Right, there's three 1:37:40.680 --> 1:37:46.360 sixty million Americans or female, and then you got a 1:37:46.520 --> 1:37:49.240 tenure window to catch them all. There are tens of 1:37:49.400 --> 1:37:55.080 millions of potential mates in this country. And that's not 1:37:55.160 --> 1:38:02.680 even talk. She's gonna be clean fish. You're gonna have to. 1:38:05.400 --> 1:38:08.320 So at twy nine, you're cool. So you're twenty nine, 1:38:08.439 --> 1:38:11.720 you're cool going back too, are you okay to hop 1:38:11.800 --> 1:38:18.000 ahead to thirty four? N? Okay? So that's a big window. Yeah, 1:38:18.320 --> 1:38:24.439 slot limit slot about fifty. So all right, So there's 1:38:24.439 --> 1:38:27.200 two so women in this area. If you're looking for 1:38:27.520 --> 1:38:34.280 um um, he gets both gainfully employed. Yeah, avid outdoorsman, 1:38:35.280 --> 1:38:39.759 prone to getting an airboat crashes, but not their fault. 1:38:40.680 --> 1:38:43.000 These guys have both. Basically you've both been run over 1:38:43.080 --> 1:38:48.720 by other run over by other less experienced voters. Uh 1:38:49.400 --> 1:38:53.280 you know what they say, um in the wrong place 1:38:53.360 --> 1:38:56.280 at the wrong time, pretty much. And you guys both 1:38:56.320 --> 1:38:59.680 not a cook. Yeah, because I said you cooked us alligator, 1:39:00.320 --> 1:39:06.760 you cooked us bullfrog, you cooked this frozen French fries. Um, 1:39:06.920 --> 1:39:09.040 how did you guys cook your frog legs? They were good. 1:39:09.920 --> 1:39:12.240 We just battered them, you know, like a little Cajun 1:39:13.439 --> 1:39:15.600 Cajun batter. It's a fine not even it was like 1:39:15.640 --> 1:39:18.479 a breading, like a fine bread. Yeah, this is I 1:39:18.520 --> 1:39:19.960 don't like to get crazy. You know a lot of 1:39:20.040 --> 1:39:21.760 people like to get crazy with the bread and and 1:39:21.840 --> 1:39:24.880 I feel like it takes away from your meat, you know. Um, 1:39:24.960 --> 1:39:27.320 I like to use a little lighter you know, a 1:39:27.400 --> 1:39:30.599 little more corn meal base, you know, and then we'll 1:39:30.640 --> 1:39:32.720 put like a little you know, it wasn't bready what 1:39:32.920 --> 1:39:37.400 you guys didn't Actually, it wasn't like a wet batter, right, No, 1:39:37.600 --> 1:39:40.080 it's just like you don't even got we don't we 1:39:40.160 --> 1:39:42.280 actually don't even use like an egg batter with it. 1:39:42.479 --> 1:39:45.280 Just you wet you know, just make sure it's moist 1:39:45.400 --> 1:39:48.000 and you know, and then we put a little creole 1:39:48.040 --> 1:39:56.160 season in in it in the flower. Um it's yeah. 1:39:56.200 --> 1:40:00.160 I think it is either Tony's or Zadaran's one. I 1:40:00.240 --> 1:40:03.439 knows that ran Yeah. Yeah, I've always been a Tony's man. 1:40:03.680 --> 1:40:05.840 I mean I like a lot of stuff. I like Tony's. Yeah, 1:40:06.520 --> 1:40:10.680 and then uh, you make a secret sauce. What is 1:40:10.720 --> 1:40:15.840 the secret sauce? I want to be secret and we 1:40:16.000 --> 1:40:18.880 told you the secret. Okay, Like give you a rough 1:40:18.960 --> 1:40:22.920 sketch on the secret sauce. It's have you been to 1:40:23.000 --> 1:40:26.320 like bonefish grill? You been to a bonefish grow? Oh yeah, 1:40:26.400 --> 1:40:28.960 bonefish grill? Yeah? They do like a bang bang shrimp. 1:40:29.200 --> 1:40:30.320 You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I know what 1:40:30.360 --> 1:40:32.720 you're talking about. It's kind of like a like a 1:40:33.080 --> 1:40:36.920 spinoff of their version, you know. It's it's you know, saracha, 1:40:37.280 --> 1:40:40.599 some red chili, you know, like the chili pepper sauce, 1:40:41.760 --> 1:40:49.559 A little catch up other things. The counter over there 1:40:49.760 --> 1:40:54.760 got a milk, a couple of frogs. Well, it was 1:40:54.840 --> 1:40:57.559 good man. This has been like a really educational couple 1:40:57.560 --> 1:41:02.200 of days for me, like a handful of different activities, 1:41:02.360 --> 1:41:04.400 and then the sword fish and stuff is just kind 1:41:04.400 --> 1:41:06.160 of shocking to me. I think I'll be talking about 1:41:06.160 --> 1:41:10.479 that for a long time. That's pretty cool, especially when 1:41:10.479 --> 1:41:14.960 any catching that quick. Yeah, everybody leaves a dot at nine, 1:41:15.040 --> 1:41:22.400 were already running home by what fifty two big two, 1:41:22.479 --> 1:41:28.320 big huge fish land in the bottom of uh ycluding 1:41:28.360 --> 1:41:31.519 thoughts and the final guy on those sword fish like 1:41:31.600 --> 1:41:34.080 that eyeball. Right, Well, I mean it makes sense right 1:41:34.120 --> 1:41:37.240 where they live. But you don't catch fish that have 1:41:37.400 --> 1:41:39.759 an eye that. I mean that thing might be bigger 1:41:39.800 --> 1:41:42.800 in your eye too, definitely two to three inches. That's 1:41:42.800 --> 1:41:46.240 a good point, big around as a Copenhagen can There 1:41:46.320 --> 1:41:51.960 you go, Ryan, you're you're mate. That was out with us. 1:41:53.040 --> 1:41:56.760 I was talking about when you bring a he's talking 1:41:56.760 --> 1:41:59.040 about bringing a macop up in the boat and he says, 1:41:59.080 --> 1:42:01.960 when you're walking around the boat that Magel watches follows 1:42:02.000 --> 1:42:06.280 you thus sketchy. You can see him following you, following 1:42:06.320 --> 1:42:12.360 you with his eyeball as you walk around. Yeah, we 1:42:12.479 --> 1:42:15.680 killed a couple of this. Well. I did have one 1:42:15.720 --> 1:42:21.240 of the final questions where airboat culture outside of southern Florida, 1:42:21.320 --> 1:42:24.320 Like where where else do you find it? Um? Nebraska 1:42:24.520 --> 1:42:29.280 the Platte River they actually have. Um uh, they have 1:42:29.600 --> 1:42:31.519 pretty big event up there every year. They call it 1:42:31.600 --> 1:42:34.640 thunder on the Loop. They do like races that you 1:42:34.680 --> 1:42:37.240 know which they that's like a that's like car motor 1:42:37.320 --> 1:42:39.639 boat territory. You know they run a lot of what's 1:42:39.680 --> 1:42:42.479 down here too. You know there's a lot, but um, 1:42:43.160 --> 1:42:48.120 you know Louisiana, Texas, UM Mexico. You know a lot 1:42:48.160 --> 1:42:50.200 of the duck hunting. You know, they got a lot 1:42:50.200 --> 1:42:53.240 of the duck hunting operations down there. They use them. Alaska, 1:42:53.520 --> 1:42:57.720 Alaska caribou moose hunters using airboats. And you see guys 1:42:57.800 --> 1:43:00.560 even fishing same without airboats. I mean even um you 1:43:00.640 --> 1:43:03.880 know Illinois, um there starting you know there is some 1:43:04.080 --> 1:43:08.840 air boat in there that I've heard about through conversations 1:43:08.880 --> 1:43:13.320 and that. Um. But I would say as far as 1:43:13.439 --> 1:43:17.880 recreational airboat use, South Florida, Central Florida is like the 1:43:18.000 --> 1:43:21.960 mecca for it, you know, and we have multiple actual 1:43:22.080 --> 1:43:26.720 manufacturers here, diamond Back air Boats, T t O, Stossil 1:43:26.760 --> 1:43:33.360 air Boats, UM actual Classic UM looma tach like actual 1:43:33.439 --> 1:43:36.800 places where you can go get a production built boat. 1:43:37.120 --> 1:43:39.040 You know, I've been in the which we were up 1:43:39.160 --> 1:43:43.120 what last year at diamond Backs plant. Pretty cool operation 1:43:43.200 --> 1:43:45.439 to see how they actually, I mean you go from 1:43:46.200 --> 1:43:48.080 where our boats were built where it's kind of a 1:43:48.200 --> 1:43:54.760 one man shop, handbuilt, Hal's aircraft riveted. You know, everything's 1:43:54.800 --> 1:43:59.599 done with hand jigs. Where diamond Back everything's done by 1:44:00.280 --> 1:44:03.840 they have actual jigs built. They have it's like a line, 1:44:04.000 --> 1:44:07.479 you know, guys, Weldon Halls Uh, they're cranking them out. Yeah, 1:44:07.520 --> 1:44:11.600 they crank them out, you know, more like your UM agencies, 1:44:11.680 --> 1:44:15.280 you know FWC. You know they go as far as 1:44:15.320 --> 1:44:19.040 Louisiana and that you know they buy more from them. Now. Um, 1:44:20.280 --> 1:44:22.840 and that's you know on that touching on that. You know, 1:44:22.960 --> 1:44:25.400 so there there is. Actually it's a pretty decent sized 1:44:25.439 --> 1:44:28.439 industry here for that because we're in ground zero of 1:44:28.520 --> 1:44:31.720 air bolt culture. Yeah, I would say, Um, our friend, 1:44:31.760 --> 1:44:33.519 I keep thinking. My concluding thought, I'm gonna do it 1:44:33.640 --> 1:44:35.519 right now is are a guy we work with, Garrett 1:44:35.640 --> 1:44:38.160 Dirt myth he'd like it down here because people like 1:44:38.200 --> 1:44:41.800 to chew tobacco and he loves chewing, but none of 1:44:41.880 --> 1:44:44.200 us to chew with him. He come down here to 1:44:44.320 --> 1:44:48.080 drive around and air bolts having to chew the heaven 1:44:48.160 --> 1:44:51.840 man and he likes to turn a wrench and yeah, 1:44:51.920 --> 1:44:56.920 he likes motor sports, like chewing tobacco, motor sports. He'd 1:44:56.960 --> 1:44:59.519 be all over the you know what, you know what 1:44:59.640 --> 1:45:02.000 they about all this? Is it? Just the other day 1:45:02.080 --> 1:45:04.519 we were driving around and Uh, I don't know what 1:45:04.640 --> 1:45:10.520 we're doing. We're at the airport, maybe getting those immigration 1:45:10.760 --> 1:45:13.799 not to immigration, the customs forms for guns going to Mexico. Anyways, 1:45:14.000 --> 1:45:16.760 were early and the guy wouldn't see us early. We 1:45:16.840 --> 1:45:18.320 had to show up on time. So we went to 1:45:18.400 --> 1:45:21.320 get a beer and uh, it was snowing and it 1:45:21.400 --> 1:45:23.560 was kind of cold, and he's like, yeah, you know, 1:45:24.040 --> 1:45:28.800 I'm kind of getting over the winter. Really Yeah, so 1:45:28.920 --> 1:45:31.160 we might have just found found his you know, his 1:45:31.439 --> 1:45:34.800 new place. He likes the ice climb though. This guy's 1:45:34.800 --> 1:45:37.479 throwing the motors that when he sees uh like he's 1:45:37.560 --> 1:45:40.280 I've seen him be almost moved to tears By super Cubs, 1:45:41.720 --> 1:45:44.920 moved tears By, but just like just like strikes him 1:45:44.960 --> 1:45:49.240 somewhere down deep. Uh, Matt Cook, you know, I was 1:45:49.320 --> 1:45:52.360 just talking about Ryan and Josh. You know the reason 1:45:52.439 --> 1:45:55.840 I come downers. They really represent kind of the essence 1:45:55.920 --> 1:45:58.360 of South Florida where I mean, as far as you've 1:45:58.360 --> 1:46:01.240 got commercial fishing. And it's fun to see how that 1:46:01.439 --> 1:46:06.360 whole thing plays out. Obviously, Josh uh amateur trying to 1:46:06.439 --> 1:46:10.559 be professional bass fishermen on Okechobi, etcetera. It's just fun 1:46:10.680 --> 1:46:15.720 to see. I know, you like to fish bass, but 1:46:15.760 --> 1:46:17.880 you want to become a tournament bass. I fished a 1:46:17.920 --> 1:46:22.600 lot of tournaments, um fish, some amateur event, you know, 1:46:23.000 --> 1:46:26.200 a lot of amateur obviously, we have you know, tons 1:46:26.240 --> 1:46:30.040 of you know amateur event team tournaments here, UM fish, 1:46:30.120 --> 1:46:35.440 some flw outdoors events, and you know, got some aspirations 1:46:35.520 --> 1:46:39.160 that go pro you know one day, you know, sooner 1:46:39.240 --> 1:46:42.519 or later. I like specializing in what we do because 1:46:42.600 --> 1:46:46.040 our style of fishing is you know, unique in its 1:46:46.080 --> 1:46:48.880 own you know, they just had a tour level event 1:46:48.960 --> 1:46:52.000 on the lake with on Okeechobi, which is you know 1:46:52.080 --> 1:46:58.400 they travel throughout the country and it's neat because you 1:46:58.479 --> 1:47:01.719 know what's kind it's hand in hand. When the Florida 1:47:01.760 --> 1:47:06.680 guys go North Alabama, Tennessee River, Valley Lakes, you know, 1:47:06.800 --> 1:47:12.559 Gunnersville real popular, you know bass fishing. UM, we tend 1:47:12.640 --> 1:47:16.880 to we struggle a little bit because we're so shallow minded. 1:47:16.960 --> 1:47:19.599 I mean I don't I don't ever use it that finder. 1:47:19.760 --> 1:47:25.200 You know, we're shallow minded meaning you know what I mean. 1:47:25.280 --> 1:47:28.840 Like we're like you're talking site fishing where I'm I'm 1:47:28.880 --> 1:47:32.519 a yeah, you don't know about Like we don't fish 1:47:32.640 --> 1:47:35.240 ledges and you know here and there, but we don't 1:47:35.320 --> 1:47:38.960 fish deep water clear water. You know, we're used to fishing, 1:47:39.200 --> 1:47:41.400 you know, punching is what we call it, which is 1:47:41.439 --> 1:47:44.759 a you know, using a one ounce yeah, punching match. 1:47:44.840 --> 1:47:46.720 You know, I gotta you probably heard of him the 1:47:47.120 --> 1:47:51.679 he's an amateur bass angler out of Oregon, um Matt Elliott. 1:47:53.240 --> 1:47:55.840 But yeah, he told me he broke the whole world 1:47:55.920 --> 1:47:59.360 of bass fishing down. And he's like also talks about 1:47:59.360 --> 1:48:03.400 all the different basque cultures. But he's from fishing small 1:48:03.479 --> 1:48:07.920 mouth and moving water in the Pacific Northwest. Yeah, very different. 1:48:08.240 --> 1:48:10.400 I would be lost. That's more like fishing. That'd be 1:48:10.479 --> 1:48:13.720 like from your perspective, would be more like fishing for swordfish. 1:48:15.040 --> 1:48:17.200 You know, that's you know what. And on our side 1:48:17.240 --> 1:48:22.120 worth fishing heavy cover, you know, thick vegetation. That's kind 1:48:22.160 --> 1:48:26.560 of that's my specialty. And um you know where a 1:48:26.640 --> 1:48:29.560 lot of guys are more into the finesse. You know. 1:48:29.880 --> 1:48:31.680 I mean when I go bass fishing, I'm fishing with 1:48:31.800 --> 1:48:35.519 a seven eleven seven and eleven inch rod, almost eight 1:48:35.560 --> 1:48:40.000 foot rod, extra heavy action, sixty five pound braid. Like 1:48:40.160 --> 1:48:42.000 it's you gotta get him out of the junk because 1:48:42.080 --> 1:48:45.280 when you flip in there. You know, the gloria fish 1:48:45.360 --> 1:48:49.120 in Florida is any flip can be a ten pound fish. 1:48:49.760 --> 1:48:52.680 You know. Um on like Akachobe when the when when 1:48:52.760 --> 1:48:56.599 it's when the lake is producing at its top um 1:48:57.040 --> 1:49:01.040 depending on conditions. And you know, obviously we had a 1:49:01.120 --> 1:49:04.720 hurricane come through this year and that actually, you know, 1:49:04.960 --> 1:49:08.599 change even the everglades. That change a lot of our 1:49:09.360 --> 1:49:13.840 landscape if you call it um. So that affects things, 1:49:13.960 --> 1:49:16.439 you know. And one of the cool things about Florida 1:49:16.479 --> 1:49:18.960 and our fisheries is in the freshwater world, in the 1:49:19.000 --> 1:49:22.120 bath fishing is it changes a lot. So it's always 1:49:22.160 --> 1:49:24.320 a justin you know, you'll hear guys, you know, pros, 1:49:24.400 --> 1:49:27.400 guys at fish you know for a living. They come 1:49:27.439 --> 1:49:29.640 down here and they you know, they'll come down and 1:49:29.680 --> 1:49:31.920 have GPS marks from last year and they'll say they 1:49:31.960 --> 1:49:34.800 just erase everything and start all over because it doesn't know. 1:49:35.160 --> 1:49:38.639 She's constantly changing. So you ever f upitty large mouths. Yeah, 1:49:39.240 --> 1:49:42.800 not in a long time. I'm kind of It's like 1:49:42.880 --> 1:49:44.680 one of those things where now I feel, you know, 1:49:44.760 --> 1:49:49.000 I have a hard time killing one. Yeah. My dad 1:49:49.040 --> 1:49:52.040 and my dad's a redneck, Like I mean, I've read neck, 1:49:52.120 --> 1:49:54.280 but my dad is. My dad's on the old school. 1:49:54.320 --> 1:49:56.240 I mean, it's hard for him to put back. You know, 1:49:57.320 --> 1:49:59.120 he looks at you know, we always mess when we 1:49:59.160 --> 1:50:00.840 go deer hunt and we say, you don't see horns 1:50:01.200 --> 1:50:04.360 when they walk out, he sees pork tops, you know, 1:50:04.640 --> 1:50:06.840 so that's kind of you know, but we you know, 1:50:06.920 --> 1:50:09.680 I I don't I really don't like I can tell 1:50:09.720 --> 1:50:13.000 you a good story about Matt, you know, but Matt 1:50:13.080 --> 1:50:16.000 finish up your concluded though you concluding thought, No, I 1:50:16.160 --> 1:50:19.880 just uh, you know, I think people enjoy Florida for 1:50:19.960 --> 1:50:22.840 the beaches. You know, you always hear about Miami and 1:50:23.200 --> 1:50:26.320 and or the West Coast Naples. But for me, the 1:50:26.520 --> 1:50:28.479 essence of Florida is is kind of the center of 1:50:28.520 --> 1:50:30.360 the state. And what's fun to come down here in 1:50:30.439 --> 1:50:34.160 this area is you obviously can freshwater fish. And then 1:50:34.760 --> 1:50:37.880 you know, for everyone listening, you're only ten minutes away 1:50:37.960 --> 1:50:39.840 fift and you can go deep water fishing. I mean, 1:50:39.920 --> 1:50:42.519 so oh yeah, yeah that's we We woke up this 1:50:42.680 --> 1:50:46.040 morning in the in the swamp house, the swap stillt house, 1:50:47.120 --> 1:50:50.840 and fished off shore. Yeah. People can't conceive of that. 1:50:50.960 --> 1:50:53.240 You can do all of that in a three day period. Yeah. 1:50:53.240 --> 1:50:54.680 We had to take an airboat to get into the 1:50:54.720 --> 1:50:57.920 big boat. Yeah. We almost squeezed in a large mouth 1:50:58.000 --> 1:51:02.000 on Okechobee and and uh um, striper hunting. You know. 1:51:02.160 --> 1:51:05.760 So it's just a magnificent place for the outdoors. You 1:51:05.840 --> 1:51:07.479 can't and you can do so many things in a 1:51:07.560 --> 1:51:10.160 short period of time. So that's the reason I come down, 1:51:10.200 --> 1:51:12.280 and these two guys have opened my eyes to it. 1:51:13.200 --> 1:51:17.680 Sportsman's paradise, gladesman, I am. I want to be gladesman, 1:51:17.760 --> 1:51:23.080 which is totally different guest gladesman. Yeah, guess gladesman. Ryan, 1:51:23.120 --> 1:51:25.519 you got the concluding thoughts? Does anything you want to 1:51:25.600 --> 1:51:28.760 stick in there couldn't stick in there? I can't really 1:51:28.800 --> 1:51:36.479 think it too much. Yeah, Um, how old do you 1:51:36.520 --> 1:51:40.080 think you want to before you get married? Like? What 1:51:40.160 --> 1:51:41.840 would be like? Do you have in your head like 1:51:41.880 --> 1:51:44.519 a cut off at which you I think that people 1:51:44.560 --> 1:51:48.960 should be married personally. I'm not leaning on you yet 1:51:49.080 --> 1:51:51.280 about it, but I think that people should be married. 1:51:51.400 --> 1:51:54.960 I think it will do a lot for your fishing. Yeah, 1:51:54.960 --> 1:51:57.439 I don't have to go anymore. She's got a bunch 1:51:57.479 --> 1:52:02.800 of money. It gives you already of mind. Yeah, we'll 1:52:02.840 --> 1:52:06.560 talk about this later. Um, all right, everyone, thanks for 1:52:06.640 --> 1:52:07.080 joining us.