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Speaker 1: This is me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely

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Speaker 1: can't predict anything. I have reasons why I think it's

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Speaker 1: best if you can. That's gonna stick with me. Don't

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Speaker 1: You do a good job of people not doing that

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Speaker 1: that it's one at a time, it's not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is that just a normal conversation like you said, people

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Speaker 1: do that. Well, it's like it's it's like a comment,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? How does it justin levels um

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Speaker 1: but it's there's like a little bit of discipline to it,

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Speaker 1: Both mere to listen to permissions? I've made major changes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that made major changes in my life. Well, uh, Kenyan

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Speaker 1: And I you know, I just I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: He's like, alright, time out. You know they're gonna move

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Speaker 1: Um alright, ready, ready, okay, first thing we're gonna do today. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Everyone introduced themselves as though dealing poker so, um, we'll

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Speaker 1: start with nice all right, let me honest. I'm here today, Um,

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Speaker 1: just coming off a big, big morning and being all

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Speaker 1: respect for your honest today. Then going down, Mr Cook,

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Speaker 1: Josh right from South Florida. I'm drinking by light and

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Speaker 1: the can and the can Josh bright right, spell it

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Speaker 1: you guys. And then Ryan, Yeah, but tell him your name,

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Speaker 1: Bryan Tubbs, South Florida, South Florida, drunken by light from

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Speaker 1: a can. Before we start, you guys are single, like

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Speaker 1: like just your little problem, you're a little problem. Well

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Speaker 1: So we just uh that was just a quick teaser

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Speaker 1: you know, um there's other builders. I'm not going to

423
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: mention them all because I don't want to start a

424
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: war down here, but um, you know, we're biased to

425
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: what we run. But they can you know, I'll take

426
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: in show you what it'll do, and and they can

427
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: bring what they got. And my gripe with them is

428
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: the noise. I mean, it's so loud. You gotta wear

429
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: a headset. And at first I'm thinking I would just

430
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: get rid of this sum bitch and use a canoe.

431
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: But then it realized the vastness of the landscape. Yeah,

432
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: that it's just uh, I mean it is huge, like

433
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: the area is huge. It's just it's just like it's

434
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: kind of a way to get I mean, it really

435
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: opens up a lot. Like I can definitely see it, man,

436
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: I can hear it, but but I can I can

437
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: see the appeal for sure. Because once we went out

438
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: to look at the downed aircraft today you realize that

439
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: it's just it just goes and goes and goes and goes,

440
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: and it's kind of monotonous like that, I mean, like

441
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: in that there's not a lot of like, uh, there's

442
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: not a lot of features in some of the areas.

443
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: And if it weren't for the airboat, trails would just

444
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: be really hard to get around. Ye. Um, you know

445
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: you do have change. You know, like this is an

446
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: eastern you know, the eastern side of it. Um, you

447
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: guys only seen a small percentage of you know, obviously

448
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: when you go further west of us, you'll get into

449
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: more cypress you know cypress swamps um that you know,

450
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: actually when you go southwest of US, so actually get rockier.

451
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: You know they years ago down there they actually used

452
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: to wrap the you know, we have also when and

453
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: you guys haven't, I don't know if you've seen it

454
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: or not, but we put polymer on the bottom of

455
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: our halls, you know, so it that helps protect Also

456
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: it's slicker, it helps you run the ground better. Um.

457
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: And down in the southwest towards Tamami Trail. Uh, you

458
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: know big cypress area down in there they call like

459
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: the loop and stairstep. You know, they were known to

460
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: wrap stainless on the bottom and rivet that to their

461
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: hall to help with protect with rock you know. Um,

462
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: but Febry areas got their own little like features for

463
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: the kind of fit whatever sort of. Yeah, there's a

464
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: little niches out every place. You know, this this area

465
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: doesn't have the you know, now you're going back years ago.

466
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: If you went up to the northwest corner of our area,

467
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: there would be more tree islands. As water levels have

468
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: hired lowered changes. You know, the tree islands have you know, shrunk,

469
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, died off, that type of deal. But for

470
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: the most part this area, you know, you ride around,

471
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: you see the little wax myrtle, you know, you see

472
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: the little myrtle bushes, some willow heads here and there.

473
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: That's about the extent of it here. Um, as far

474
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: as now there is there's a few cypress you know,

475
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: if you go out west of here, there's a few

476
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: low cypress heads and whatnot. But this area, yeah, a

477
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: lot of sawgrass, you know what from the water surface.

478
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: So the way these guys got the area. But rig

479
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: it's like you're kind of like it's almost like riding

480
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: a supercub where the driver is right in front of you,

481
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: and the drivers is sitting in a single seat, like

482
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: a single elevated seat up above the whole. And then

483
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: behind that thing elevated seat, you've got like a little

484
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: passenger area with two like a little love seat basically

485
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: for two people. How high is that love seat from

486
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: the water surface? My on my boat is it's about

487
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: seventy inches from the surface, so you're about six ft

488
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: up off the water surface. And how long is your frog? Gig? Okay,

489
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: the way these guys gig frogs is like nothing I've

490
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: ever seen before. Where you're out in an air boat

491
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: and the air boat is running and you're just as

492
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: much as you can creep along in the air boat,

493
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: you're creeping along in the channels and trails headlamping for frogs,

494
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: which you wouldn't think they do. They kind of stand

495
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: out like a sore thumb when you hit a bullfrog

496
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: with a with a flashlight, just like something about the

497
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: shine on it and then the yellow throat. You can

498
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: just see them. But from the elevated seat, you're just

499
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: like sitting down holding the eleven foot that's a carbon

500
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: fiber it's actually graphics a GRAPHI leven foot frog gig

501
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: and you give them from the seat while moving. Yeah,

502
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: because if you stop the boat, you send if it

503
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: was ever been in the boat. In the boat stops,

504
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: you send out what's called a bow wave. The bow

505
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: wave spooks the frog, right I presumably Yeah, they feel that,

506
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: you know, they feel the pressure of the way and

507
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: they'll go down. So you can't slow the boat down

508
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: enough to send out a bow wave. The spoot you

509
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: have to like stay faster than your bow wave and

510
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: just as you roll by. It's like watching in movies.

511
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: It's like watching planes, warriors, lance people from horseback from horseback. Yeah,

512
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: it's like medieval jousting with an eleven foot gig on

513
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: the move hitting frogs. Which when I first saw you

514
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: hit one while also driving, I thought, Um, that man

515
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: just did something that's a possible, Yeah, but then learn

516
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: that it's not. It's like something about it. It's like

517
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: it was it's one of those rare things that's easier

518
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: than it's actually easier than it looks. But when you

519
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: first did it, I was like I just witnessed or

520
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy is doing a really good job

521
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: of acting like he's not shocked. He just hit that

522
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: frog while in motion. And you guys, what do you

523
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: guys call the basket you used to for your frogg

524
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: a frog shoot? Explain that to people. So on the

525
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: frog shoot on the airboat, it's you know, we this

526
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: is this standard feature on the airboat. Well, yeah, I mean,

527
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 1: if you're a serious frog gigger, you know, I mean

528
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: some guys so like I said, some guys just come out,

529
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: ride around, you know, hang out, and that's what they do.

530
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: But we're we like to hunt and use them to

531
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, we're sportsman. We like to use them for

532
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: obviously efficient what we've done. You guys use the term

533
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: that I've never heard. Um, you use the term gladesman.

534
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: A gladesman now like Chestpeake Bay, it's a waterman just

535
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: like means like basically a dude that like does a

536
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: lot of stuff around here outside. A dude that does

537
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff around here outside would be a

538
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: glades No gladesman. You gotta do a lot of stuff

539
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,239
Speaker 1: in the everglades, you know, yea and ship I mean

540
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: like yeah, like about right, yeah, I mean, if you

541
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: you know the glades. When these guys that come out

542
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: here and are you a gladesman or no? Yeah, I'm

543
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: glades okay, Bryan, But you're also an offshore fisherman. I

544
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: do everything, so you can be an offshore commercial fisherman

545
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: and a gladesman. A gig, frog shoot, ducks, kill, gators.

546
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: What else you want? Fish? Fish, swordfish? Um? Yeah, explain

547
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: the frog shoot the frog shoot. Basically what I have

548
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: is it's uh six inch round piece of aluminum. That's

549
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: you know. They We have a guy that makes him.

550
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: He cuts out a little v and he makes these themselves. Yeah.

551
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: How many do you have any idea? How many he

552
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: produces a pile of you know, quite a But we

553
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: actually have an airboat store down here. You go buy

554
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: all kinds of accessories, yeah, airboat accessories. And basically that shoot,

555
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: that six inch shoot of aluminums. You know, it's six

556
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: inches in circumference and then probably ten inches you know

557
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: tall mounted vertically mounted vertically on the eye mount because

558
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: I you know, you drop, I mean nine percent. Airboaters

559
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: drive with their steering sticks on your left hand and

560
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: your gig what your right hand, So you mount to

561
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: get the shoot on the right front corner of your

562
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: grass raak yeah, just so people get it looks it's

563
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: about like a coffee can. Yeah, it's about like a

564
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: coffee can mounted on brackets in the in the in

565
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: the in the um bow starboard corner. Yeah, which is

566
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: that that big the which we call grass rake. What

567
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: goes the big you know kind of the ramp, Yeah,

568
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: the ramp in front of the boat, and that helps

569
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: push the grass down. Um So basically what the frog

570
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: shoot does. It just increases your efficiency. You don't have

571
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: to grab them by hand, pull them off or none

572
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: of that. You just stick the gig in there. It

573
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: goes into a little slot. You pull it back, and

574
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: the frog drops down into a like a laundry bag

575
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: as all as we use. Yeah, so like the mesh bag.

576
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: So it's like a picture of coffee can and picture

577
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: to someone cinched a sack around the cinched a mesh

578
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: sack around the bottom of the coffee cant. So anything

579
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: that falls into coffee can falls into the bag. And

580
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: then there's a V notch. It's more complicated this, but

581
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: there's a V notch. There's a V notch cut into

582
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: the coffee can. So when you got a lanced frog,

583
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: you drop the frog into the coffee can and the

584
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: V notches where the gig. The spear falls down in

585
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: that V notch and it enters like a little hole.

586
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: And then you just tugged the spear and the frog

587
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: into the sack and it's like a wink of the eye.

588
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: And that's a part a lot of people don't like

589
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: about frog gigging, is taking frogs off the gig. Yeah.

590
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: It is slick, Yeah, and you guys can stack up

591
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: hundreds of frogs a good night, you know, I mean,

592
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: we'll do now and a good night. I'll come out

593
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: two hours and you know, me and myself, I expect

594
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: a gig, you know, hundred frogs and two hours. You know,

595
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: that's a good you know, normal, I could come out

596
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: two hours, don't burn a bunch of fuel, get my

597
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: hundred go home. You know, if I really want to

598
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: go get crazy. We have gone out and gone all

599
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: night and you can get three four when the conditions,

600
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, when the water levels right. Yeah, because they

601
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: like us that. You know, if there's a lot of rain,

602
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: a lot of moving water, fresh water, we tend not

603
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: to do as well when we get more stagnant water more.

604
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: You know. That's why I kind of like the late

605
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: winter months when we're not getting you know, we're in

606
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: a kind of a dry season. The longer that water

607
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: gets stagnant and stay, it just seems, you know, we

608
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: get more and more frogs get out into the because

609
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: as the water is dropping, you know, as you gotta

610
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: understand as oh, they're getting pushed out of all the Yeah,

611
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: they come out, they got a feed. They eat mennows, crawfish, bugs.

612
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: But I noticed you guys kept saying that the were

613
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: you saying the frogs are up or high? What are

614
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: you saying? You guys got a term you use meaning

615
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: like shiploads of frogs, But you'd say, what frogs are up?

616
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: You know that's when we say they're up, that means

617
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, you're starting to see him. Okay, I didn't

618
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: know if you meant that the population in general is

619
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: up or you just mean they're available right now. That

620
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: means like it's available right it's good frog, that's good.

621
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: So what's happening is the as the water levels drop,

622
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: they need to like areas that were once wet are

623
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: now dry. Another thing I had no idea about that

624
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: we talked about out frog gig and last night was

625
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: the idea of a gator hole, the areas they exegate. Yeah,

626
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: they'll go in. A gator, I'll go in and he'll wallow.

627
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: You know, he'll wallow himself an area and he'll keep

628
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: wallowing it until the point that a lot of times

629
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: the you know, the roots from lily pads, you know,

630
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: there's actually a route down there, and it'll break off

631
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: and then the little mud clump will float up, you know,

632
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: and he'll have a little hole in there, and then

633
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: he'll you know, he'll live in that hole. That's his sanctuary.

634
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: That's the territorial about those things. If you get a bull,

635
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, a mail gator. You know, I've seen a

636
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: mail gator stay in a hole and you know until

637
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: you either if it's hunting season and we kill him

638
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: out of there, he'll stay in there and guard that area,

639
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, and because he you know, he's gonna that's

640
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: his little sanctuary. Just like a white tail buck has

641
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: his little home range. Gator is going to kind of

642
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: do the same thing out you know, out here for

643
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: the most part, I've noticed other parts of state where

644
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: the gators are a little bit more nomadic, but here

645
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: they'll hang tight. It has an interesting function too, because

646
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: as he excavates that hole and the water levels drop,

647
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: he's got a place to live. But may it collects fish. Yeah,

648
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: that's it's it's it's pretty important for other wildlife and

649
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, fish, turtles. You know, as the water goes down,

650
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: you got you gotta imagine you have six inches of

651
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: water around and muck and then there's a four ft

652
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: deep hole. You know, the fish that haven't made it

653
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: to the canal, to the perimeter canals, and yet they'll

654
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: go to that deeper water, you know, and that also

655
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 1: provides that game. I mean, the way I look at gator,

656
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 1: he ain't too stupid because he got him a perfect

657
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: little spot. He's got a place to live and all

658
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: the food has has a win win situation for him.

659
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: If I opened the bar, I wouldn't do it around here.

660
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: But if I opened the bar somewhere else, I would

661
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: call it the gator hole. Is there a um? Is

662
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: there a bar called the gator hole? Uh? Not to

663
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: my knowledge, but that's you know, I wouldn't do it

664
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: here because people would think you were trying. You know,

665
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: people here would think you were right, like some outsider

666
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: calling it a gator hole. It'd be like your opposer.

667
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: But say you were up in somewhere else, some other

668
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: part of the country. You started a bar called the

669
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: Gator Hole. I drink there. Yeah, so we gigged frogs.

670
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: Not another question about frogs, Um, and Ryan feel I'm

671
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: gonna get to you hot and heavy, So you can

672
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: sit this one out if you want, because we're gonna

673
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: cover you up and down on the soule swordfish situation.

674
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: But um, why do you get Not why because I

675
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: understand now, But can you explain how you clean your frogs?

676
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: So the way you do it is you'll take a knife.

677
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: You're grabbing him by his legs, you know, kind of

678
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: pinch his legs together so he's straightened out. And if

679
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: you hold them, you'll see a little arc in their back,

680
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, were their bone arcs. And you take a knife,

681
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: just slice it, you know, slicy skin, and then you

682
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: stick your finger and that, you know, down in the

683
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: little hole that you made, and you peel back, you know,

684
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: peel all the way back. Pull is my om man

685
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: taught me. And when out a little young and pull

686
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: his pants off. Oh yeah, that's what we taught. We

687
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: can squirrels and pull their pants and well, so what

688
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: you do is you pull these pants off all the

689
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: way down and then when you know, you pull the

690
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: skin all the way down past his feet, and then

691
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: you grab underneath his belly and you'll actually tear the belly.

692
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: You know. If you do it that way, you can

693
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: it keeps everything cleaner. You know, some guys and I

694
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: used to do it. You know, I did a couple

695
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: of different ways, but I've just cut the legs off

696
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: and then do it. See that's how that's how I've

697
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: always seen it done, and that's how we always do it. Well,

698
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: I'll show you another way to do it. But if

699
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: you you know the way I'm trying to explain, if

700
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: you cut it, pull the pants down past his feet

701
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: and then reach up in his belly and you can

702
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: actually just pull you know, the little muscle and you know,

703
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: around his belly and just pull them gut out and

704
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: everything will be attached to his head and you just

705
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: snap his head, you know, you just spin his head

706
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: in a pop right off and you got a clean

707
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: set of leg and you guys, leave the feet the fingers, yeah,

708
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: attached to the leg. That's the best part. There's pros

709
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: and cons but there's pros and cons. The pro being

710
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm with you. The little toes, the fried up toes

711
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: are good. It's just like you equated it when you

712
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: guys equated the fish fins catfish fins, right, Yeah, like

713
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: when you fry a small blue gal or whatever and

714
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: leave his tail on there. But appearance wise, I could

715
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: see that some people might, some people who were sort

716
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: of on the fence about frog eating might see the toes,

717
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: especially a whole basketful of them, and and it would

718
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: tip them in the air direction. Yeah, I mean, if

719
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: I you know, I mean, if if we got some

720
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: ladies around and there we want to eat fays, a

721
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: lot of times we'll cut the feet off. You find

722
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: ladies are less inclined to want the toes on there. Yeah,

723
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: it looks like it looks like Freddy Krueger. It's like

724
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: ugly brother. Yeah it does. That's a good way. Yeah,

725
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: it's like a little a little basket of Freddy Krueger's

726
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: little brother. After frog getting, we set out to do

727
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: a little bow fishing. And I have if people, if

728
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: like people were where I grew up bow fishermen where

729
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: I grew up, would they wouldn't even know how, they

730
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't know how to begin comprehending the number and size

731
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: of gar down here. It's unbelievable. We never even flung

732
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: an arrow at a guard though. But like up here's

733
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: here's what I'm trying to get to this. In most

734
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: parts of the world, most parts of the country, bow

735
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: fishermen are not generally shooting. This is I'm speaking generally.

736
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: Both fisher were not generally shooting fish that are that

737
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: good to eat, right, like the like people shoot a

738
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: lot of common carps, Like common carps the main thing

739
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: people go after, and of course, like common carp were

740
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: introduced into this country into many waterways as a food source.

741
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: Like people thought that as native fisheries collapse from over

742
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: fishing and habitat destruction, like well, here's this very durable

743
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: for coun to fish that gets big people eat it

744
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: will sort of replace the fisheries that we ruined with

745
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: cart and then it would be happy. But carp have

746
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: never even though you know they raise them and eat

747
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: them in Asia, they're just not popular here. So where

748
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: I grew up, people fished carp, both fish for carp

749
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: and would often just discard the fish because now they're

750
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: considered like a deleterious non native, and people want to see,

751
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: would like to see it's never gonna happen, would like

752
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: to get rid of the cart. But the one fish

753
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: that's sort of like has like a fairly good reputation

754
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: is uh long nose gar you guys have. These are

755
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: long nos. But but the scars shape like footballs. Yeah,

756
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: they're fat. Yeah, like I'm used to guards that look

757
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: like cars. Yeah, well they're feeding good unbelievable. It's like

758
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: Yanni said, it's like a football with a with a

759
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: swordfishes nose coming out of huge cars. But you guys

760
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: don't mess with them, you know, we don't. We don't,

761
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, we don't really mess with them. So you know,

762
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: guys that like to eat them, I mean I've heard

763
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: of god, you know, certain people. What they'll do with

764
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: them is like you know, they'll actually like scale them

765
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,959
Speaker 1: and then boil the meat out of them, and they'll

766
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: make like a patty out, you know, put some onion

767
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: pepper and you know, make all us like a little

768
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: patty balls. Yeah, I mean, but we don't, you know,

769
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: we haven't messed with them. And you guys have so

770
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: much other stuff to eat, yeah, I'd rather eat a

771
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: frog when I've done them. Like you take like you

772
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: take tin snips if you were maybe you never try to.

773
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: You take tin snips and just cut up the back

774
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: all the way up the bag, and then you cut

775
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: so you got like you picture the whole guard laid

776
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: out like like your arm right, and you cut a

777
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: big long strip up what would be like his dorsal fin,

778
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: the whole length of the fish. And then you snip

779
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: the ends of that long strip and just peel the

780
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: top part away, peel the hide off to the right

781
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: and off to the left, and just remove the backstraps,

782
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: which is where all the meat is on a car.

783
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: And you've got these big long cigars of meat, and

784
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: people will make guard balls out of those or you

785
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: just you just chunk them up and fry them. It's

786
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: not that bad, but that was the that was like

787
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: in in Michigan, that's like the best fish that you're

788
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: allowed to shoot with the boat will be a guard.

789
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: But here you can bow fish for fish that people

790
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: buy in restaurants. You got telapia. And then we also

791
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: have in some of our canals which we you know

792
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: last night where we were both fishing, we I mean

793
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: there's we've seen a few, but not many, um and

794
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: a lot of are more of the urban canals. They'll

795
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: have bull's eye snakehead, which is you know, actually becoming

796
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: highly targeted fishery. You know a lot of guys are

797
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, they're big into catching them rotting real but

798
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: we actually got into shooting them, which Matt's been with

799
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: us on that, and we've had some you know, incredible

800
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: snakeheads shoots. I mean, you know, load the box tilapia

801
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: snakeheads and and they get pretty sizeable. You know, it

802
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: looks like a little mini Kobe is what I always

803
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: say that kind of like, yeah, what is a big snakehead?

804
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Nine eight nine pounds? You know, and they'll get you know,

805
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: two and a half three ft long. And the big

806
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: tilapia is what too, yeah to to you know, like

807
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: the you know a couple of you would kill last night.

808
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: Those are pretty sizeable fish. Yeah, you know, they're like

809
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: really substantial, And it's just weird to be able to

810
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: shooting that weird because I mean I've done it in

811
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: South America, but um where you can shoot like great

812
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: table fair fish. Yeah, So to be able to go

813
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: out and both fish for tilapia, even though tilapia or

814
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, non native but none native fish, you know

815
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: how long they've been in these waters. Flap Um, I've

816
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: seen him around since I was a kid, here for

817
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: quite a while. And they dig a nest, like I'm

818
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: trying to think the closest example that, like most guys

819
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: would know, picture like a bluegill nest, a bluegill bed,

820
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: but they dig it where it's it's almost deeper than

821
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: it is wide. Yeah, it's like a ball, like a crater. Craters.

822
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: They dig a crater and guard that crater. But the

823
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: problem for bow fishing is a lot of those craters.

824
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: Like there's a when you're trying to hit fish with

825
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: the boat, you're like dealing with refraction. I'm not telling

826
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: you this, I'm just telling like Joe blow listener that

827
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: you're dealing with refraction. Like if you ever stuck a

828
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: stick in the water, right, the stick looks curved. So

829
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: when you're aiming at a fish, you don't aim at

830
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: the fish. You aim way, You aim below, and generally

831
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: you don't aim low enough. It gets worse and worse

832
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: and worse the deeper deeper you go. So these craters

833
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: are four ft down, three ft down, four feet out,

834
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: and it gets to be very hard to hit the

835
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 1: fish down there because the aral slows down so bad,

836
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, and then the thing's too deep. But

837
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: we caught some up in the shallows where they're just

838
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: a few inches under the surface, and we caught them slipping,

839
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: and then you wind up with like, you know, one

840
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: and a half two pound fish that's like a restaurant

841
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: like a restaurant grade fish. Yep. Yeah. People are buying

842
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: them in the every day, you know, down here. You

843
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: go into public's are you know, local supermarkets that are

844
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: down here, and they sell them all, you know, probably

845
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: one of the most popular fish people going by, you know,

846
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: every day. So is it unusual that we didn't see

847
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: anyone bow fishing last night? Uh? No, you don't see

848
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: a whole lot. You know. It's it's not you know,

849
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: down here in South Florida. Yeah, I mean there's guys

850
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: that do it, you know, there's a handful of guys.

851
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: I know a few, but it hasn't really taken off

852
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: to the point that you when you go out that

853
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: you actually see other people. You know, I've been doing

854
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: it now for I don't know, what's what we've been

855
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: doing seven eight years because actually Matt, you know, I

856
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: hadn't really gotten into it until Matt came down and

857
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: we he we funny stories. We were out fishing. We

858
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: were snakehead fishing is what we were doing. And Matt

859
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: had brought some bows and he'd come up with the

860
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: idea and I said, O, well, I know a place

861
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: where I know there's fish there, we go do it.

862
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: We went out that night and I mean we you know,

863
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: they shot till their fingers were so you know, it

864
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: was just that the first night we did it was

865
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of found a little canal and

866
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: they hadn't been fished, you know, both fish before, so

867
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: it was just you know, as fast as you can shoot,

868
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: as fast as they can get arrows back on there,

869
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: and you know, and then from there he was the

870
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: one who kind of really got me into it. I've always,

871
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: you know, been had interest and it messed around a

872
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: little bit, but it wasn't like go out and do it.

873
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: And then he got me into it and I started

874
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: Ryan and I buddies of ours. I mean, we started

875
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: it was a great time to go, you know, summertime.

876
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: You know, we all we liked the deer hun bow hunt,

877
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: and it was a great time to go past time

878
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: in the summer, and we started out there. We've got

879
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: some beer and go out, get on the john boat

880
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: and go bow fishing. And I mean we were doing

881
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: it all the time, you know. So I think I

882
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: feel like it would be like a I probably should

883
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: be saying this, but I feel it'd be like a

884
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: bow fishing destination place. Well because there's endless water. Yeah,

885
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: I think the logistics are complicated to in some of

886
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: the areas. I mean it's not there's not a lot

887
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: of places are not necessarily the best places are near

888
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: a bowt launch, like we went last night off the

889
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: air boat. You know that's uh, you know it's tricky

890
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: to get over there. So I think that can't be underestimated.

891
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Some of it's tricky. I can interrupt you. I want

892
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: you to ask yourself, Um, is my microphone really just

893
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: two fingers off my upper lip? It is exactly two fingers.

894
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: I've been admiring it. What he's saying, gears might be

895
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: just a little far. But see the thing is that

896
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: Matt he's got he sounds good. Are you saying I

897
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: have fat fingers, it's placed. I think your ear is

898
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: farther away from your mouth. That's absolutely possible. Is that better?

899
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: A little closer? Little closer? Okay, now we're one and

900
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: a half fingers, okay. Uh. Logistics, it's complicated down here,

901
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: you know, with the camps obviously the only uh, it's

902
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: only accessible by the airboat. And so between that and

903
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: getting into the canals when the water level and we'll

904
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: talk a little bit on the water level changes quite

905
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: a bit here, so you really got to know the area.

906
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: I have a local that can kind of put you

907
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: on the right spots. And that's how Josh and I

908
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: came together around both fishing down here. Do you just

909
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: rolled in cold here? It would be a tough It

910
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: would be a tough it'd be tough years homet rolled

911
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: in cold would be years for what. Just kind of

912
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: figure it out. We figure everything out, both fishing. I disagree,

913
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: because both fishes, both fishing. If you've got a good

914
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: bow fishing boat and you got all these canals, any

915
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: anyone's gonna find the canals. That's true, I guess. I

916
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: guess they are in the canals really more than like

917
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: out in the grass where we've been running right. Oh, yeah,

918
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: that would be that would be difficult for people to

919
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: figure out. But to go hunt the big primary big canals. Yeah,

920
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: you cat you cat pretty much down here. If you've

921
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: got any freshwater canal, you know that. And that is

922
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: what's you know, kind of gold about it is you

923
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: can in South Florida if it's public water, you've got

924
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: a public boat ramp and any of these canals you

925
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: can go put in and you're gonna see fish that

926
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: you can you know, non you know, obviously it's gotta

927
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: be a non game fish. So you can't shoot large mouth.

928
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: They got no bass um, you know, no bluegills, that

929
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: kind of you know, you can shoot catfish. Uh, you

930
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: know you got down here, if you know, if you've

931
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: got gotta say, you get a little bit east of here,

932
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: you go to some of the you know where you

933
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: guys drove in down that road that canal that there,

934
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: you can go in there and shoot tilapia, uh, and

935
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: snakeheads and oscar oscars and which is the native fish? Um,

936
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: isn't it? I don't think an oscar as native, So

937
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: that's another native. The snakeheads are introduced. You have snakehead

938
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: introduced non native, the oscars. That's some kind of crazy

939
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: South American seclet or something. And then you have a

940
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: miyon cycling. And then we also have peacock bass, which

941
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: the can you shoot those? See the state games? What's crazy?

942
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: As the state has actually got a tougher regulation, like

943
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: if you were to go fishing rod and reel, you

944
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: gonna keep two peacock backs even though they're not native

945
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: and they're non native, but you can you can kill

946
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: five largemouth bass. So that's how they you know, you know,

947
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: I guess it's kind of a that's pretty that's interesting.

948
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: What's uh? You know, obviously a peacock basses in the

949
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: cicklid family, you know, a cycling and mine cyclid peacock

950
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: pass over. So you can't go shoot a peacock bass.

951
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: It's considered a game fish here. I'd like to hear

952
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: the logic on that. Besides, the people really like them,

953
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: and have you ever eaten one of those? It's a

954
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: good fish. Man. When we were down we're in South America,

955
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: they have a smaller that they have peacock bass, but

956
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: they're not like the giants like they'd be like four

957
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: or five pounds and man, they grilled some of the

958
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: olds one time, and unbelievably good fish, like one of

959
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: the best, like almost as good as like snook, you know,

960
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: like a very good fish. I got a pretty good

961
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: story on a peacock pass please. So when I was

962
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: a little little guy, we used to live on Sea fourteen,

963
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: which is in in town here in Margate, Florida. And

964
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: my dad's an avin, you know, I grew up. My

965
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: dad's a gladesman airboat or that's who I've learned everything.

966
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: He's you know, everything I've known. And he was an

967
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: avid bass fisherman. When he was fishing sea forts, falling

968
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: off bat large mouth large mouth baths, you know. So

969
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: he was in Sea fourteen, which is pretty good for

970
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: peacock bass fish, and he catches like a close seven

971
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: pound peacock, which is it's a canal canal system. It's

972
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: also explosive. Yeah, so he four he catches this you know,

973
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 1: trophy peacock, you know, seven pound class. And I actually

974
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: growing up, we had a nanny and she was from

975
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: South America, and my dad had put the fish and

976
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: he was taxing. My dad was a taxinger at one time,

977
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: so he'd put the fish in the freezer and was

978
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: keeping it that he want to get a mounted. And

979
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: I come home from school and I'm something. I mean

980
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: just the smell of the house. I'm like, man's you know,

981
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: because she's cooking fish or something to night. And I

982
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: walk in there and look in the pot and there's

983
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: this peacock baths in there. It's boiling. My dad ain't

984
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: home yet, and I'm looking in there. I'm like, her

985
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: name is Vera Severa. Where did you get that fish?

986
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: I was in the freezer. I said, Oh, this ain't

987
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: gonna go good. Needless to say, she know she wont

988
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: her nanny no more? After that, Oh no, she's lost. Hey,

989
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: you know it's a trophy. Is a trophy? Yeah she she?

990
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: We were uh uh, none of us. We all went out.

991
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: I think we went to Checkers at night because it

992
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: was pretty gnarly. Look yeah, um, have you Okay, We're

993
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: always hearing about snakehead because snakeheads keep turning up in

994
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: new locations because like it's a it's a fish. People

995
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: buy it for their aquariums. Um. I think that's like

996
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 1: tightly regulated now or more regulated than it was. People

997
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: buy snakeheads for their aquariums. The snakeheads get bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger.

998
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: They're hard to feed, hard to take care of. They

999
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: outpaced the size of their tank, and people decided to

1000
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: get rid of them. So they keep popping up in

1001
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: new places. Um Like, if you follow, if you like

1002
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,479
Speaker 1: read about wildlife news, you'll always be reading stories about

1003
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: some new drainage that that people have found snakeheads. And

1004
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: but then when you go talk to people who are

1005
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: in a snakehead area, doesn't seem like it's very often

1006
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: that they're like that they reached like the levels that

1007
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: Karp have reached. Like do you see is it still

1008
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: kind of rarity or do you ever see places where

1009
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: it's just nothing but snakeheads when they get into which

1010
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: we have a bull's eye snakehead and you know they're

1011
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: Asia from Asia, and when they get into uh, um,

1012
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,439
Speaker 1: you know, I used to work on a golf course

1013
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: and at you know, earlier years great bass fishing and whatnot,

1014
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: and we started, you know, caught one on top water

1015
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: plug and you know, when I first seen it, I'm

1016
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: like the hexas thing, I don't you know, start figuring

1017
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: it out. And once we've seen the first one, it

1018
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: just from there it exploded and then you know, and

1019
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: like I said before, it's like gotten to like this

1020
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: crazy little colt that goes in chases east things. They

1021
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: love fishing for them, and you know that which it

1022
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: was in Coral Springsford just west or just east to here.

1023
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but the that's when they show up. They're

1024
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: so aggressive, you know, I would say, like peacock we

1025
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: used to complain about, we don't. I don't necessarily I'm

1026
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: not fond of the peacock bass because they get into

1027
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: a bat I'm a large mouth bass guy, and when

1028
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: a peacock gets in there there, you know, twice at

1029
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: least twice as aggressive as our large mouth and well

1030
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: they'll hammer the bait fish, you know, so that kind

1031
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 1: of you know little you know, they can't a large

1032
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: amounth just can't compete with a peacock is as far

1033
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: as aggressiveness, and the bowl's eye snake, as I'll say, is,

1034
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: is even more aggressive. You know, great fish to catch,

1035
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean some of the most explosive top water. You know,

1036
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: it's need a bottoms. You gotta fish. You fish like

1037
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: a frog bait and fish it as close to the

1038
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: bank as you could possibly get it without touching the bank,

1039
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: and that's how they'll eat it. And you know, so

1040
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: once you see it, once they showed up, I mean

1041
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: they've exploded. And once they get into a lake or

1042
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: canal system, it's almost like they'll overrun it. You know,

1043
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: So you do see that happen, because that's certainly like

1044
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: the story you hear, but I haven't heard. But I

1045
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: haven't heard a lot of cases where people had like

1046
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: seen it reach those proportions. Yeah, you have the have

1047
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: a thought, Johnnie. Oh, it's just interesting that we were

1048
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: in Maryland this fall and on this coast but still

1049
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: a long way from here, and they were into catching

1050
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: snake heads up there and he a guy, we met

1051
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: a guy I don't want to say his name. You

1052
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: don't know his name. I know where he goes by.

1053
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you just have VIC signed on the

1054
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: side of his truck. He told us what he goes by.

1055
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: He told us they called me the whisperer, the X whisperer.

1056
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: So he gets telling us how listen, this is like

1057
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: only layers of like, no, you know what we Okay,

1058
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: we heard it from a man who supposedly witnessed it.

1059
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: He knew some guys who were doing Are you familiar

1060
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: with selling glass eels? So, do you guys have the

1061
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: American eel around here? Do you have a freshwater eel?

1062
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: Freshwater that's called the American eel. Now, American eels, like

1063
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: a salmon, is a nadrumus, meaning it goes from the

1064
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: ocean and runs up a river to spawn. That's an

1065
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: anadromous fish. The American eel is catagronous. It goes from

1066
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: the rivers out into the ocean to spawn. There's not

1067
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: a lot of fish to do that. American eels go

1068
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: all the way to the Sargasso Sea and they congregate

1069
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: and spawn in the Sargasso Sea, and then they where's

1070
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: that awful like like out off from the Caribbean, very

1071
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: deep area, like like a very deep area of the ocean.

1072
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: It's kind of without looking at the map, it's hard

1073
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: to explain. But if you shot from here, if you

1074
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: shot from here kind of like through the Caribbean off

1075
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: that away, it's like where everything gets deep. Basically, everything

1076
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: that drifts down down down winds up in this place

1077
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: called the Sargasso Sea. Eels, all the eels and all

1078
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: these rivers concrete there and spawn, and then they have

1079
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: a larva that just free floats, and eventually it gets

1080
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger and bigger, and when they go back

1081
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: into the rivers and start going up, they're called I

1082
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: think that at that point they call the glass eel.

1083
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: And eels are very popular in Asian restaurants. So if

1084
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: you go to a sushi joint, here your eyes eating

1085
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: eel unagi, which is smoked eel. Now, aquaculture, they can

1086
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: raise the eels in aquaculture facilities, but you can't successfully

1087
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: spawn the eels out there. You need to start with

1088
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: a wild caught They need to start with wild caught

1089
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: glass eels or wild caught juvenile eels. So does a

1090
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: market for these wild called juvenile eels, which people net

1091
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: up and sell for shiploads of money, and a lot

1092
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: of people poach them, and then they go into these

1093
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: aquaculture facilities and you can raise the eels up. So

1094
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: this dude's telling us that he knew a dude who

1095
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: was in the business of of marketing and raising eels,

1096
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: and one day he looks in this guy's eel tank.

1097
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: This is the dude telling me and Yanni this at

1098
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: a gun range. Remember this he says. He peers down

1099
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: into the eel tank and lo and behold, it's not eels,

1100
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: and he says, the hell is that? He goes, oh,

1101
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: that's a fish called a snake head. I'm I've been

1102
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: raised this. The guy tells us, I've been raising them

1103
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: and letting them go. Why would you do that? And

1104
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: he says well, and he kind of walks through. This

1105
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: is a waterman in Chesapeake Bay, and he walks through

1106
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: his family's history with fisheries that have collapsed and become overregulated.

1107
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: So he's like, we used to be able to catch

1108
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: X blue crabs, Now we're screwed. Then we used to

1109
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: be able to do X with clams, Now we're screwed.

1110
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: We used to do this, now we're screwed. Here's one

1111
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: fish that no one's ever gonna tell me not to

1112
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: catch as many as I want. And that's where he

1113
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: in this waterway. That's where this feller claimed that that

1114
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: was how this is happening. It wasn't from the aquarium trade,

1115
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't from people throwing out ones. He's two as

1116
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: he's here and there, that it was a concerted effort

1117
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: on behalf of some gentleman to um introduce it. Yeah,

1118
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: because and it already does. There's it already has commercial

1119
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: outlets and commercial value because the feller we met actually

1120
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: sells the things to a restaurant. Is it under that name?

1121
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: At restaurants? Yeah, and I don't want to name who.

1122
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: See this is this story starts to make its own

1123
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: gravy because yeah, so it started to get a guy

1124
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: started selling it, and he got really good reviews and

1125
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: like the hot ticket item, and now this guy can't

1126
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: get enough of it and he's buying it for seven

1127
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: bucks a pound, isn't he It was something like that.

1128
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: It was high. Yeah, seven bucks a pound. So that's

1129
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: what got this. So that's what that's what this guy

1130
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: says is driving this whole snake head thing. Now, this

1131
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: could just be like a crazy guy at a gun club,

1132
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: which there are plenty of, or it could be like

1133
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: the real dope. But Ryan, you're right up in town.

1134
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna be the hot he did tell us. I

1135
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: want to I want to finish on that, he did

1136
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: tell us, and would be interesting to try, especially since

1137
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: we've been talking a little bit about live Maite this

1138
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: last couple of days. But he was saying that a

1139
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: thing not to do rolling into a spot where you

1140
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: know there was a few and just start chalking a

1141
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: lure or two in, but just pitch out a handful

1142
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: and get a little friendzy going. And then he said,

1143
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,919
Speaker 1: he said, you can just sit there and fish every

1144
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: single one out of the hole. Yeah, so start like

1145
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: the Sargasso. See I'm looking at a it would be

1146
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: it's eastern, it's western edge would be due east of here,

1147
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: but like beyond the Bahamas. It's Yeah, it's just like

1148
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: apparently like as things go down, like eels go down down,

1149
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: now down, down now down, they eventually wind up like

1150
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: in the deep spot, and then they FreeCast this larva

1151
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: which binds his way all up and down the and

1152
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: these eels are having wide distribution. But back to you, Now,

1153
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 1: this is something that had listened. I knew all about

1154
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: shooting fish with bowls. I knew all about all this

1155
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, but I had no idea until I

1156
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: came down here. Until last night, I was unaware of

1157
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: the type of sword fish fishing that you do. Can

1158
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: you explain, Ryan, Can you explain commercial sword fishing how

1159
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: it's practiced here. We'll start by saying how it's practice

1160
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: north of here. North of here the long line, which

1161
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: they'll set anywhere from a long line and berries on

1162
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: how many hooks they want to fish or whatever they

1163
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I know some of them they're fishing up

1164
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: to thousand hooks or something like that. Farther north of there,

1165
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: they harpoon them. I guess it's up in Nova Scotia

1166
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: or something like that where they actually get on the

1167
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: surface and they have you know, spotted planes and towers

1168
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: on the boats and big pulpits and they actually go

1169
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: out and that's how they cop them. Just yeah, I've

1170
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: talked the guys who've done that with spotder planes, like harpooning,

1171
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: like this is up in Montauk Fence too. But then

1172
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: there's a line south of which you can't long line. Yeah,

1173
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the line. It's like two hundred miles

1174
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: east of Port Canaveral. You gotta be north of that

1175
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: and so so many miles east and you could long one.

1176
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: But once you get south of there you can hand

1177
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: gear fish. So you basically you got a buoy with

1178
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: a strobe light. Hold up, because here's the other part

1179
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: of this I need you to explain. Um sword fish

1180
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: are down in the daytime at what depth. I mean,

1181
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: they could be anywhere from as long as it's dark,

1182
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: I guess seven hundred feet of water and all the

1183
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: way out to I don't know to three thousand feet.

1184
01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: Are you fish them around? You know, anywhere from dshing

1185
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: them in the daytime the daytime, but at night they

1186
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: must just spiral. They spiral upward and come up to

1187
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: the surface. Something that's happened the generator. I think you

1188
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: know what that noise was. Uh sorry, But at nighttime

1189
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: they must just spiral upward and come up how close

1190
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: to the surface. I mean we've seen him on the surface,

1191
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: but most of this stuff we're fishing around hundred two

1192
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: ft of water. So explain your your commercial swordfish gear.

1193
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: Basically you got it. They call it a jat ball,

1194
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: which is just a hard plastic ball with a ten

1195
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: pound lead on the bottom so it keeps it upright.

1196
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: Then it's got a stem that's probably I don't know,

1197
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: about a foot and a half long, and then it's

1198
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: got a strobe light that takes two deep batteries and

1199
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: he put that on the top. So so it's a

1200
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: bootie with a like a like yeah, like I said,

1201
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: like a booby with a strobe light sticking up out

1202
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: of it right, so you can see it at night.

1203
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: And then normally you put another light on there in

1204
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: case of stroke light breaks or you know, just easier

1205
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: to see it. And then from the booty you'll have

1206
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: I use like a hundred and fifty ft of they

1207
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: call it um tar line, which is basically like a

1208
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: just a cheap kind of rope that goes to a

1209
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: longline clip which is basically some kind of a swivel,

1210
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: and then you put a leader which is about a

1211
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: hundred ft. Then in between there you got another swivel

1212
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,439
Speaker 1: and I clipped my light onto there asn't attracted, yeah,

1213
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: And then you can fish, you know, any kind of

1214
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: bait you want. I like using a lot of squids

1215
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: or mackerel Spanish macro, Boston macerel, tanker mackerel, something like that.

1216
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: And then you go out and basically you're jug fishing.

1217
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: You go out and start throwing these booties overboard, and

1218
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: they're not connected to each other, so if you can't

1219
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: find one, she's probably gone, like gone gone. Yeah, if

1220
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: your lights break or whatever. Sometimes we've had some of

1221
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: the leads get ripped out of the balls and the

1222
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: you know, ball flip upside down and you know you'll

1223
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: never find them again, got you? But you go out

1224
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: and set how many of these? How many? Like so

1225
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: you're driving out to fift hundred feet of water, we

1226
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: go a little deeper because we'll set from the east

1227
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: to the west, so be anywhere from two thousand then

1228
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: set all the way in to about nine ft. Maybe

1229
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: it depends on the current. Sometimes the current pushes to

1230
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: it always pushed you north, but sometimes they'll push you,

1231
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, east or west? And how many of the

1232
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: how many of the of the booties you throw out

1233
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: with the hooks on them? I fish thirty two thirty

1234
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: two rigs stretched out over what distance? It's probably close

1235
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: to five miles. Why so far apart? I mean they're

1236
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: really only about a tenth of a mile up, aren't

1237
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 1: So you got I don't know, covering more water. So

1238
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: when you okay, this is like, so you start out

1239
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: your your furthest one is twenty miles off shore and

1240
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: your closest one to shore is fifteen miles off shore.

1241
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: And between those two points you have strong out thirty

1242
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: two booies with line, a leader in bait and a

1243
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: jay hook on the end. And they got lights on top.

1244
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: When you're at any particular buoy, can you look and

1245
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: see the booty's in either direction? If you're in the middle,

1246
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: you can almost see your inside. If you're on that

1247
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: now you can't really see at all, but you can

1248
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: usually see whatever one's next, right, okay, Yeah, I mean

1249
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: you could see probably ten or fifteen in a row

1250
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: something like that. Oh okay, So you're seeing like a

1251
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: considerable distance. It depends on if it's calm or not

1252
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: too you know, if there's if they're you know, the

1253
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: moon's full, you can't really see as many as far.

1254
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: You know, you might only see a few. But and

1255
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: you set this rig out there, or this big collection

1256
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: of rigs, you set it out there after dark. Yeah,

1257
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: we'll start like right at sunset. You know, it takes

1258
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: about hour hour and a half to get them all

1259
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: on the water. And then you're drifting at what speed

1260
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: it varies in the gulf streaming. Some nights you'll have

1261
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: you know, two knots of todd Some nights you know

1262
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: the title will be rage and will be you know,

1263
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: four or five knots almost. I mean that's fast. But

1264
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: I've seen it, And are you just cruising up and

1265
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 1: down keeping an eye on all the booties. Yeah, yeah,

1266
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: you gotta. Normally we'll go and throw all the booties,

1267
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: hang out, eat a sandwich, and then we'll kind of

1268
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 1: start going out to the end. Whatever fish we got,

1269
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: we'll catch them, throw them in the boat, clean them,

1270
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: and then pack them with ice, and then we'll go

1271
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 1: out and start checking them from the outside end. So

1272
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: how do you what tells you when one of these

1273
01:10:54,200 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: booties hits a fish? They'll go east west, um north outh.

1274
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean most of them somewhat. They will kind of

1275
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: have a line, you know, definitely have different currents where

1276
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: stuff just goes everywhere. And so so you're you knowing

1277
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: that the swordfishes hit one of them is not based

1278
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 1: on that it's bobbing, but just that it's traveling in

1279
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: a weird direction. Or you'll pull up to them, they'll

1280
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: be half you know, BULLI will be halfway underwater. You'll

1281
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: see it spinning like sometimes you know, you'll fish on

1282
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: there that are dead and they're not really pulling, so

1283
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: you won't see like a wake behind it, and buy

1284
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: you'll just kind of sit there and spin real slow

1285
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: as you're driving past it. And then you don't know,

1286
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: like there's something on there, and what's a big swordfish

1287
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: and what's a small swordfish? Oh, I mean I caught

1288
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: one the other night. I don't think it weighed five pounds.

1289
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: Well that you find them that small, yeah, I mean

1290
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: not often. That was the smallest one I've ever seen. Yeah,

1291
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: it was tiny. And at night do the sharks tear

1292
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: the swordfish up? Is it not as bad at night? Yeah?

1293
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: I've had it happen coupled maybe five or six times,

1294
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: but not too not too often. It's not as bad

1295
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: as it be in the daylight. Yeah, I've never had

1296
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: one really messed with in the daytime. So here's it's

1297
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: not that much of an issue now because you're talking

1298
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: about fishing yellow fin that they'll sometimes you'll lose fish

1299
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: to sharks. Oh yeah, those sharks are on the elephants

1300
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: and they got like a feeding frenzy going, and those

1301
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: tunas they'll pull off so much line. You're pumping them

1302
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 1: up and they're kind of a circle, like you know,

1303
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: spiraling up real slow, and them sharks will get on

1304
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: real bad. Got you, But they don't hit the sword

1305
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: fish that bad, not too much. And like, what's it

1306
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: so when you're out doing commercial sword fishing like this,

1307
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: what is like, what's what's a bad night and what's

1308
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 1: a good night? Bad nights obviously when you catch nothing,

1309
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: so that can happen, it's happened, I mean good night.

1310
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: You catch anything over five, it's good. I mean you

1311
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: catch over a thousand, it's real good. But you're talking

1312
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 1: dressed weight, all dressed out. Yeah, can you can you

1313
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,799
Speaker 1: explain to people like how you dress the swordfish? Basically

1314
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: they're gutted. All the fins come off, the head comes off,

1315
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 1: and then they're gutted and every you know, heart, everything,

1316
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: everything on the inside comes out. And then there's a

1317
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: bloodline that goes from all the way to the head,

1318
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: all the way to as far back as like the

1319
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: gut cavity goes. You just take a knife and run

1320
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: it down there. Then there's a little bloodline. You can

1321
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: kind of stick your finger and pop that up. He's

1322
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 1: a little wire brush and just clean it out and

1323
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: then pack it and crushed ice. Yeah, just pack it

1324
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: with ice. And like what's the so when you talk

1325
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: about the weight that you're selling, you're talking about that weight. Yeah,

1326
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: what you could hit a word for what you call

1327
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: those things we call them, just say it's cord out,

1328
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 1: cord out, and you fill your coolers up, and you're

1329
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: not like in what would strike people as a commercial vessel.

1330
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: I mean you're like you're seven basically like a sport

1331
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: fishing boat, like a twenty seven ft sport fishing boat, right, Yeah,

1332
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: because I fish tournaments and I charter fish. I mean

1333
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a you know, do all everything

1334
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: kind of. But but you can pack a thousand pounds

1335
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 1: of cord out, a thousand pounds of swordfish core on

1336
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: a boat and that's a good night out. That's a

1337
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 1: real good night. Yeah, Like the other night we caught pounds.

1338
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean we had all fish packed there. Anywhere you

1339
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: can have a box and ice in it, we had

1340
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: fish in it. And then that's a really good night.

1341
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: That's the best night I ever had. And then you

1342
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 1: take them in and how do you sell them? Basically

1343
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: just pull up out of the fish market. Obviously, I'll

1344
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: leave all the fish in my boat. Makes a lot easier.

1345
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: You ain't got to touch them two three times. But

1346
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: you pull up here, you pull your boat out of

1347
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: the water and put it on a trailer, and I'll

1348
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: just drive it over the fish market and then um,

1349
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: and you know the price before you go out and

1350
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: do this. No, sometimes you get screwed a little bit.

1351
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: But I mean, if you've got a lot of fish,

1352
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: there's it's hard to get rid of him other places,

1353
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: or you don't have a wholesale retail license or whatever.

1354
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: So I just saw them my fish at the same spot.

1355
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: Makes it easy to drop them off when you're done,

1356
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: and there's you don't have a contract about what the

1357
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: price is going to be. No, basically you go in,

1358
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: you you pull all the fish out of her boat

1359
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,839
Speaker 1: and then you know, they got like a little scale

1360
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: or whatever, it's a big scale. They go and they

1361
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: put the fish on there. They'll cut the tail, see

1362
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: if it's got color or whatever, and check the bloodline

1363
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: and then they'll grade it. What do you mean, what

1364
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: Steven's got color? Um, Well, you have some fish that

1365
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: will be like like a white fish, which obviously that's

1366
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: kind of like a little bit lesser per pound. Oh,

1367
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: the white are less the more they call it peach

1368
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 1: or you know, they'll say light peach, peach, orange orange

1369
01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: obviously being the best whatever it because they eate those

1370
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 1: world red shrimpoint that fish we caught today and it

1371
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 1: dies the flesh that color so different makes for a

1372
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: fattier fish. And that's why maybe it's more expensive when

1373
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: the color is in it. I don't know. I think

1374
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: it's more of like a sweeter taste or something. I mean,

1375
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: you don't really see too much fat, not like a tuna,

1376
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: you know how you have like fat content in the

1377
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: meat or there is, and you just can't really see it.

1378
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really know what they all look

1379
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: for for that, but but it's just the guy's judgment

1380
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 1: call when he's buying your fish. Yeah, and he grades

1381
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: every fish, especially like on the skin color. If you

1382
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: throw a harpoon through the side, you know, because you're

1383
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 1: dead ruin some kind of meat right there because you

1384
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: put a hole in it. Then the harpoon turned sideways. Yeah,

1385
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: we should probably back up and talk about that because

1386
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: we didn't. I meant to cover that a little bit.

1387
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: So your your cruise long and here's a booty booking

1388
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: off in some weird direction. What do you do? Just

1389
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: pull up on the ball and you'll have a basket

1390
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: of rope with a clip on it, and you'll clip

1391
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: actually clip the basket onto the line and pull the

1392
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: booty off. So that basically so to get the booty

1393
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 1: out of the way. Yeah, that's basically like you're rotten

1394
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 1: reil because you're hand fishing. You know, everything's with your hands.

1395
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: So that's basically like your real and your extra line.

1396
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: You know, fish wants to take line, and that's kind

1397
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: of how that works. So first thing, it's ditched the

1398
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: buoy and get the whole thing attached to another long line. Right,

1399
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: that's a thick enough rope to handle. Yeah, it's pretty

1400
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: much the same. It's the same as um what the

1401
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: dry we call it a drop, you know, the tar

1402
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 1: line that comes off the ball. It's just a giant

1403
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: basket of that. So then you got them and you

1404
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 1: start to try to jack them up pulling them, and

1405
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 1: they put up a tussle when you start pulling on them. Yeah,

1406
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes you know, you can't get around to

1407
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: them fast enough and they're dead. I mean we've pulled

1408
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: up and two pounders dead. And it's makes it real

1409
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: nice and easy because he just i mean, he hasn't

1410
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: been dead that long. No, I mean, just you know,

1411
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: sometimes I mean, you you know, you hook them kind

1412
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: of deep or whatever. You know, sometimes they get wrapped up,

1413
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, tail hooked, and you know they do die,

1414
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 1: but he's still marketable because it's only been so long. Yeah,

1415
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,839
Speaker 1: I got you. So the ones that are still frisky,

1416
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: you bring them up and then gaff them or harpoon them,

1417
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: depending on his temperament and size. Yeah, I mean, if

1418
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: it's a big fish, I mean most of all the

1419
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 1: big fish with harpoon them just it's kind of like

1420
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: an insurance thing, you know, and try to hit him

1421
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: up in the head. Yeah, you try. I mean, fit's

1422
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: a big fish, you try to get it wherever you can,

1423
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: just for insurance or if you know. Sometimes fish will

1424
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: be swimming around the boat and never ate anything, and

1425
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: sometimes you get an opportunity to you know, throw a

1426
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: harpoon out a free swimmer. I mean, so you'll just

1427
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: be looking in the light and you'll see swordfish for

1428
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: whatever reason. What are they drawn to the light? H

1429
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: I think it's more you know, you'll have other fish

1430
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: on you know, you'll sometimes you'll have a swim all

1431
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: er fish and a bigger fish, or you got a

1432
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: bigger fish on the line, you'll have a little bit

1433
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: smaller fish with them, you know, because it's like a

1434
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: male female thing. You know, normally it's a bigger fish

1435
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: as your female than your smaller fish is the male.

1436
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: So you'll just all of a sudden realize here's a

1437
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 1: sword for swimming by, and you'll grab your harpoon and

1438
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 1: stick them with the harpoon sometimes when you get lucky. Yeah,

1439
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: Like how often does that happen? A few times a year?

1440
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: Not all the time, but it happens, and you're throwing

1441
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: the harpoon or jabbing it. If they're close enough, you

1442
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: can just jab them. I mean, if they're a little

1443
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: deeper far or whatever, you know, you just throw it

1444
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: and just see if you can get them. And you

1445
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: got another basket with I mean I got like a

1446
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: thousand foot or open a basket too. Just yeah, because

1447
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: then he's not played out at all. He's just gonna run. Yeah,

1448
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 1: depends where you hit him with me. If you hit

1449
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: him kind of far back or something like that, you

1450
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: know you're gonna they'll be pulling on him for a while,

1451
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: and events you drag them up and then you put

1452
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: a gap in the drag more the side of the boat.

1453
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: Then we picked up all the cleaning. So to move

1454
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: us back into the future where we belong. You go down.

1455
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: This fish guy comes in and takes each fish and

1456
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: says like he wants to judge the color on it

1457
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: general condition, and then what does he do? Then they

1458
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: just they have a giant floor basically, and it's just

1459
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: actually it's kind of like um plastic pallets and they

1460
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: have all you know, laid out and then they just

1461
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: stack fish on there where there's ice under them, and

1462
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: they you know, covering with ice. They put like a

1463
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, whatever your boat name is. They have like

1464
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: a little tag on a number for however much the

1465
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: fish wade. You know, they're calling and trying to sell

1466
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: the fish, and they'll go in there, pick it and

1467
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: put ice in a box and ship it offered. And

1468
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: they're selling fish at the same time. Yeah, like the

1469
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: other night that we're we're catching fish and we had

1470
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 1: a couple of nice fish that you know, they're pumpkin

1471
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: and they're puking colored. Yeah, and I mean most people

1472
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: want those, so they sell real quick for you know,

1473
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: a little more money. They were already taking and pack

1474
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: them in boxes getting random ship and we ain't even

1475
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 1: off float all our fish yet. So it's that fast

1476
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: turnaround sometimes and then he he rates every fish, weighs

1477
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: every fish, and then you just get he just cut

1478
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: you a check. Yeah in like two weeks. Oh yeah,

1479
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: that's only catch, so you don't have a fift pound

1480
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: night and then just go out and just walk out

1481
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: of there in the check in your pocket, which is

1482
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: make it seem kind of nice. Now, normally it's like

1483
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: a week and by the time they you know, put

1484
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 1: it in the mail, you got it normally in about

1485
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 1: two weeks. So how much will the price fluctuate from

1486
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: day to day? Like, is it moving all the time?

1487
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: Is like most commodity trading where it's just like up

1488
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: and down, up and down most less swords, I mean,

1489
01:21:54,760 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of it stays pretty level around like September over,

1490
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean it gets a little low. I mean then uh,

1491
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: And you're saying when the guys start harpooning in the North,

1492
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: it drives the price dead, drives the price down huge.

1493
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: And plus I know there's a bunch of long line

1494
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: boats fishing up there too, like on the Grand Banks

1495
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, they're catching a lot of fish too.

1496
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: So now that like this winter time in the North,

1497
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: your prices are good, there's not a lot of fish

1498
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: coming out of the north. Yeah. Normally right around like

1499
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving time, the price goes back to like normal, or

1500
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, depending on the weather, if it's been rough

1501
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 1: for a long time, you know wherever, then they'll you know,

1502
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: the price goes up a little higher. I forget whatever

1503
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: that holiday is where everybody eats fish, lent or something

1504
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: like that. Like that fish just goes through the roof

1505
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: around that, does it. Yeah, So if you got fish,

1506
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean definitely making some extra money off them. There's

1507
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: enough people observing lent to drive up sword fish prices.

1508
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean, all fish, every fish, any whatever is fighting

1509
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: at that time. Fish prices just go through the roof.

1510
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: And this is some of the you're saying today, this

1511
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: is some of the best sword fishing you've ever seen

1512
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 1: right now, Yeah, the last couple of weeks, perhaps because

1513
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: the weather up north, let's push fish down. So today

1514
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: we went out, So we go out to fish today.

1515
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: That's what you're doing at night when you're out commercial fishing.

1516
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: And we went out today and went out to about

1517
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: ft of water and explain the rig we fish today,

1518
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,560
Speaker 1: like how like how you rigged up and how we

1519
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: fished it. Basic fish electric rail. It's called an LP

1520
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: that's just it's an LPs twelve dred that's the type

1521
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 1: of electric rail. It is loaded with fet ds. I'm sorry.

1522
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: Yards of pound breaks, which is a shipload of money

1523
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: worth a braided line. Yeah, it's a couple hundred bucks.

1524
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: And then um, from there, whatever kind of rodded. Some

1525
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 1: people like a long road, some people like one, some

1526
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: like stuffed soft. I mean it's whatever they like. But um,

1527
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 1: you got a rod, you got the sixty five pound tests.

1528
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: Do like a little bamny twist, which is the knot

1529
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 1: makes a loop, and then you put a wind on leader.

1530
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: Use the knots called a cat's ball. And when you

1531
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: say the wind on it used to be like a

1532
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: big long lead, it's a hundred foot lead, right yeah,

1533
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: but there's no swevel from your braided line to your

1534
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 1: wind on leader. So you'll tie a beaminy twist and

1535
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: at that wind on leader, I'll have a loop and

1536
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: the knot you tie it's called cat's paw. And then uh,

1537
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: why do you not want? Oh, you don't want because

1538
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: you need to be able to reel the whole kind

1539
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: of come on the rail. I got you, I got you,

1540
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 1: and uh, so wind on leader means you don't need

1541
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: to stop at a big barrel swivel. You gotta stop.

1542
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 1: You gotta stop at the lead, Yeah, and pull and

1543
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: pull the lead off and basically from that not it's

1544
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 1: whatever three or four ft and then you gotta um

1545
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: use wax line, make a little loop on there to

1546
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: put your leg, which you use a longline clip, and

1547
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 1: whatever pound moon that you want to use. Yeah, and

1548
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 1: you got a ten pound lead, and from that ten

1549
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: pound lead, it's like in simple terms, it's like you

1550
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 1: got the reel in the rod and then you got

1551
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 1: sixty five pound test braided line down to ten pounds

1552
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 1: of lead and then one feet of leader. Yeah, I

1553
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: think it's about one fifty as what was on there today.

1554
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: And then the bait it's a it's a standard. It's

1555
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 1: like a j hook with a skirt and then piece

1556
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: of bonito on it. Yeah, it's just like a they

1557
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: call like a Panama strip. It's kind of what kind

1558
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: of Patos cut cut as you know. Sometimes you'll say

1559
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: a belly strap. Some people say some people actually just

1560
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: cut a strip, but that's called a Panama strap. Got

1561
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: you and you're sending this thing downet down because you

1562
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: wanted like a hundred feet off the bottom, because you

1563
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 1: got a hundred leader, The leads a hundred fifty ft

1564
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: off the bottom. Right, the leads a hundred fifty ft.

1565
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: I'd imagine your hooks. You know where you're bait is.

1566
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: It's a little under it. It's a picture like these

1567
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: guys want this rig to lay out flat. You can't

1568
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: just like open the bail on the reel and send

1569
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: the whole thing down. It's gonna be a mess, yeah,

1570
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: because the lead is gonna be leading the way, and

1571
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 1: the whole leader is just gonna spiral around the main

1572
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: line and be screwed. So they lay the rig, They

1573
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: lay the leader out, get the lead in the water,

1574
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: and then motor and run. Meanwhile, the leads fallen, but

1575
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: they're driving away from the lead until they get the

1576
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: right amount of line out. Then you swing the boat

1577
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 1: around and come back at the point you started at

1578
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: so that that whole thing falls smooth and doesn't get

1579
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: all wrapped up. And then there you are five football

1580
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 1: fields of line out dangling around somewhere down at the

1581
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean. Right, and the swordfish hits and

1582
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 1: it looks like there's a bluegill messing with it. Yeah,

1583
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: today them things barely even tapped it. Like you can't.

1584
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: You would think, so how big was the biggest we

1585
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 1: had a We had an eighty five pound swordfish. Yeah,

1586
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: we had one und Ay five and other and like

1587
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: you would think that thing would take that thing out

1588
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: of the rod holder. But we're staring at it. You

1589
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: guys are staring at it debating whether there was a

1590
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: hit or not. It is just like, like so much

1591
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: gets lost in that amount of line, even though braid

1592
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 1: is so like sensitive and like like transmits signals so well.

1593
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: I always think like like if we're jigging hallibut two

1594
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: hundred fifty ft of water, you can take a you

1595
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,799
Speaker 1: can take a twelve bounce lead ball and hit the bottom.

1596
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: I can tell you what the bottoms like, rocky soft, right,

1597
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: It's like it transmitts, it transmits that well. But when

1598
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 1: you get that much line out, it's an eighty five

1599
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: pound fish down there hitting a bait the most way

1600
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: half a pound and it's barely registers on that rod. Yeah,

1601
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: that's a pretty stiff rod too. I mean if you

1602
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: use a little something a little bit lighter, I mean

1603
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: you'll see a little more of it, like a tip

1604
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: bounce or something, you know, I like a little bit

1605
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, longer, heavier rod okay, And then when that

1606
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 1: thing hits you don't take it out of the rod holder. No,

1607
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: you throw the switch and it takes about what how

1608
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: many minutes? I don't know, probably about ten minutes or so.

1609
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: That man, ten twelve minutes, twenty minutes. That long, that's

1610
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: what it is, because like you're fift of water, but

1611
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: there's like some scope and belly, like there's some scope

1612
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 1: in the line or some belly in the line. So

1613
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: the read out on that real says yeah, and you

1614
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: gotta sit there and watch that thing count down. That's

1615
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 1: what takes for so long. If you just look away,

1616
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 1: eventually it would come along quicker. I would like, do look,

1617
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: and they'd be like sevent d feet look and then

1618
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: a while later, but then pretty soon it gets like

1619
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: three feet and then he started getting excited at one

1620
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: feet here comes the lead. I have personal experience with

1621
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: looking away because second fish today, I wasn't looking at

1622
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 1: my watch, but it still felt like a long time. Yeah.

1623
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: I was hanging on the off the tea top going

1624
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 1: there's like, man, I think still hasn't come. I wasn't

1625
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna return to me like having of me like sort

1626
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: of like slowly falling out of love with the honest

1627
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: and couldn't find it in himself to take interest in

1628
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 1: our fish. That we were I can't say we were

1629
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: fighting it, but that we were, that we were watching

1630
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: the thing play out. A lot of people would hate

1631
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: that kind of fishing. Yeah, like I was trying to

1632
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 1: tell you it is kind of boring, you know, there's

1633
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 1: not I was that those people aren't very smart. I mean,

1634
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: I like it, especially when you see a big one.

1635
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: You know, you see when it come up, you know,

1636
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: three or four or five pounds, and it's it's pretty cool,

1637
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 1: that's what you know. It's like going deer hunting. You know,

1638
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 1: you go somewhere where you can go shoot a bunch

1639
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 1: of lower ones, or you go, you know, spend the

1640
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: time track hill big one. It's kind of the same.

1641
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 1: To me. It's like it's like, um, it's like you're

1642
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: transmitting signals into outer space when you're fishing that deep,

1643
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's like it's hard to even

1644
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 1: imagine yourself being on the same planet as the fish

1645
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: when you're fishing for a fish feet away. Some people

1646
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: like and I like the immediacy to like I like

1647
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 1: sight casting to fish, which is fun. But I also

1648
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: like when you're sort of it's like talking to et man,

1649
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: like when you're when you're like got that much line

1650
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 1: out and you can't even picture what it looks like

1651
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: down there. They're in another word, old man. They're in

1652
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 1: the black. They really are nearly black. It's like, but

1653
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: you're up here in the sunshine looking, you know, watching

1654
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 1: your honest and down there is like yeah, and and

1655
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 1: then fifteen hundred feet away at the bottom of like

1656
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 1: in the ocean. You know, you can't go down there

1657
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 1: with scuba tanks. He's just down in some other planet

1658
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: that obviously you throw that switch and all of a sudden,

1659
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: here he is back up in your world. I love it.

1660
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:31,759
Speaker 1: It's cool when they come up to they're all silver

1661
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: and purple, and then they had the deck and then

1662
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: they're just like brown looking. It's like crazy how they

1663
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,520
Speaker 1: changed colors that fast too. Yeah, it's it's pretty remarkable.

1664
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: I liked it. And we had one like I don't

1665
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: know how long do you think we had the first

1666
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: set out for I don't know, you're watching your watch,

1667
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: it was about minutes. How far do we drift? I

1668
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: don't even think it was a mile. We didn't even

1669
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: drift a mile. And then the second time we sat down,

1670
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean the minute it got down, Yeah, taught us,

1671
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: I'll make a short drift for you, like we gotta

1672
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 1: drop one more time. Though it took longer to get

1673
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: it down than it did for the fish to be

1674
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 1: on there, and byam another swordfish. I thought I was

1675
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 1: I thought I was tripping out. I thought I've seen something.

1676
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 1: I'm like maybe, and then it really was. It places

1677
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: tricks on me too, especially when you sit there for

1678
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: a couple of hours, you're like, well that was a

1679
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: bite because what you're watching, like there's wave action. So

1680
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 1: as you're riding up on a swell that the rod loads,

1681
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 1: and then you get to the top of the swell

1682
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:41,520
Speaker 1: and the rods sort of the rod sort of relaxes

1683
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:45,799
Speaker 1: and go straight and then you and then it loads.

1684
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: Then you start to drop down and the rod goes

1685
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 1: sort of slack and falls and then repeats itself, and

1686
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: you kind of memorize the cycle, and you're looking for

1687
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 1: like an interruption in the cycle, and the interruption could

1688
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: be on the ride up, there's like go a pause

1689
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 1: as the swell brings you up, or on the drop down,

1690
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 1: it's like a like a stutter, and that's all you're

1691
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 1: really looking for. Sometimes you don't see it all. You

1692
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:15,560
Speaker 1: look over and the row just buckled over and you're like,

1693
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 1: oh god, him on hit the You're like, oh, that's cool.

1694
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 1: Caught me sleeping, but caught him sleeping. You know, like

1695
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 1: you guys like to fish crapp ease, right, Yeah, that's cool. Yeah,

1696
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: But it's like I like to I fish a lot

1697
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: of small fish, but I would like to fish for

1698
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: big fish, like we like to catch halib it. But

1699
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: when you spend all that time fishing small fish and

1700
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:41,679
Speaker 1: then you catch a swordfish that big, which isn't even huge,

1701
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 1: but like it's a swordfish and there kind of like

1702
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: all meat, they have a high yield. I start picturing

1703
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 1: if I was gonna take all that meat and make

1704
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 1: a pile and then start flaying yellow perch, and I

1705
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: had to flay enough yellow perch to match that pile.

1706
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: It makes me feel like small fish don't make sense,

1707
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 1: don't It's about a bite of file at. It's like, yeah,

1708
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 1: if if someone said, okay, you clean perch until you've

1709
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: matched those piles up, or clean croppy until you make

1710
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 1: me a pile of meat. The size of the pilo

1711
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: meat we got off the small swordfish would be a

1712
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 1: couple of hundred hundreds of crop. We speck fish all

1713
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 1: season and probably won't even amount the one fish one

1714
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 1: sword fish. One of the things too, like, you know,

1715
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 1: I'm a freshwater guy, you know the you know, I've

1716
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 1: been out with Ryan, I'm a gladesman and uh but

1717
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: I will say that my other the passion for me

1718
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,679
Speaker 1: in saltwater and is going with him and bootie fishing

1719
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 1: the night time because when you you know, I've been

1720
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 1: with him a few times and then I went with him,

1721
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:57,600
Speaker 1: just me and him, and got the you know, I

1722
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 1: made it for him. And you when you grow that

1723
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 1: line on a big fish and you're you grab you know,

1724
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 1: and I fought, you know, hunt gators, you know, fought

1725
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 1: gators in that. But when you grab a sword fish

1726
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 1: and you're pulling that line, you you know, and I'm

1727
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: a pretty big guy when I grab you know, when

1728
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: you grab ahold of him and you actually feel the

1729
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: power that that fish has you, you don't got nothing

1730
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 1: for him there you know, and that's what he you know,

1731
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: when when I went out with him, he's like, look,

1732
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: you know I was trying. He says, Look, when he

1733
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: wants to go, let him go because you ain't gonna

1734
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 1: stop him. You know, when they are there, pretty gnarly fish,

1735
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 1: when they want to go, they got you know powerful,

1736
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 1: that's what. Oh, there's something like really shocking about him. Yeah,

1737
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: it's like a prehistoric fish kind of comes up with

1738
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: that blade, yeah, sticking out of his nose. Yeah. And

1739
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 1: then when you got you know, when we went and

1740
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 1: you you know, even we harpooned him and then gaffed

1741
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 1: him and get him in the boat and they go,

1742
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, nuts in the boat and that bill gets going.

1743
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,600
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, that's you know. If I

1744
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 1: would say I like to go, I'm like total opposite.

1745
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 1: All either like to go bass fishing or I want

1746
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: to go sword fish and I don't have no interest

1747
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 1: in the troll and the you know, sailfish and nothing

1748
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 1: like that. I want to go pull handgear. Yeah. You

1749
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 1: either want to finesse a large mouth and let him

1750
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: go or stick a harpoon and fish you know there.

1751
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 1: It's just something like you were saying like et it's

1752
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 1: at something like out of the world. When you even

1753
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 1: with the booties, you know you're pulling on him, you

1754
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 1: don't see him, and then all of a sudden when

1755
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 1: he lights up in the light of the boat and

1756
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 1: you see him, it's like, you know, it's like when

1757
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 1: you see a big buck, your heart like you know,

1758
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 1: skips a beat for a minute. Yeah, you know, I

1759
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 1: exaggarly Tom about man watching a big fish come out

1760
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 1: of the depths is like kind of awe inspiring and

1761
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: like surprising. Yeah, has has that go away? Now that

1762
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 1: you've done it so long? I mean as long as

1763
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 1: you could be doing it, not because I was plugging

1764
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 1: you guys as being single fellers mid twenties. You're both

1765
01:36:54,800 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 1: in your mid twenties. Yeah, I'm twenty nine. What's uh?

1766
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 1: I should ask um? What's your window? Right? Like? I

1767
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: always figured my window personally, like like whatever if I

1768
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 1: imagine like my window, I was always being like generally

1769
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 1: I would be imagining that it would be within five

1770
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,640
Speaker 1: years of my age, like when I was before I

1771
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: was married, before I met my wife said, if you

1772
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: had to guess how old would this potential spouse be,

1773
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 1: I would say I'd bet she's you know, I'm not

1774
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna be younger than five years younger me, but probably

1775
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 1: not older than five years older because that was a

1776
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: substantial window. That's a ten year window. Right, there's three

1777
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 1: sixty million Americans or female, and then you got a

1778
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 1: tenure window to catch them all. There are tens of

1779
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 1: millions of potential mates in this country. And that's not

1780
01:37:55,160 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 1: even talk. She's gonna be clean fish. You're gonna have to.

1781
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: So at twy nine, you're cool. So you're twenty nine,

1782
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 1: you're cool going back too, are you okay to hop

1783
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 1: ahead to thirty four? N? Okay? So that's a big window. Yeah,

1784
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: slot limit slot about fifty. So all right, So there's

1785
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: two so women in this area. If you're looking for

1786
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: um um, he gets both gainfully employed. Yeah, avid outdoorsman,

1787
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:39,759
Speaker 1: prone to getting an airboat crashes, but not their fault.

1788
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 1: These guys have both. Basically you've both been run over

1789
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:48,720
Speaker 1: by other run over by other less experienced voters. Uh

1790
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 1: you know what they say, um in the wrong place

1791
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 1: at the wrong time, pretty much. And you guys both

1792
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: not a cook. Yeah, because I said you cooked us alligator,

1793
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 1: you cooked us bullfrog, you cooked this frozen French fries. Um,

1794
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 1: how did you guys cook your frog legs? They were good.

1795
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: We just battered them, you know, like a little Cajun

1796
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 1: Cajun batter. It's a fine not even it was like

1797
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 1: a breading, like a fine bread. Yeah, this is I

1798
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 1: don't like to get crazy. You know a lot of

1799
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 1: people like to get crazy with the bread and and

1800
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: I feel like it takes away from your meat, you know. Um,

1801
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 1: I like to use a little lighter you know, a

1802
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 1: little more corn meal base, you know, and then we'll

1803
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 1: put like a little you know, it wasn't bready what

1804
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 1: you guys didn't Actually, it wasn't like a wet batter, right, No,

1805
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 1: it's just like you don't even got we don't we

1806
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 1: actually don't even use like an egg batter with it.

1807
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 1: Just you wet you know, just make sure it's moist

1808
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 1: and you know, and then we put a little creole

1809
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: season in in it in the flower. Um it's yeah.

1810
01:39:56,200 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 1: I think it is either Tony's or Zadaran's one. I

1811
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 1: knows that ran Yeah. Yeah, I've always been a Tony's man.

1812
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean I like a lot of stuff. I like Tony's. Yeah,

1813
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 1: and then uh, you make a secret sauce. What is

1814
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 1: the secret sauce? I want to be secret and we

1815
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: told you the secret. Okay, Like give you a rough

1816
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 1: sketch on the secret sauce. It's have you been to

1817
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: like bonefish grill? You been to a bonefish grow? Oh yeah,

1818
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 1: bonefish grill? Yeah? They do like a bang bang shrimp.

1819
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I know what

1820
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 1: you're talking about. It's kind of like a like a

1821
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 1: spinoff of their version, you know. It's it's you know, saracha,

1822
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 1: some red chili, you know, like the chili pepper sauce,

1823
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 1: A little catch up other things. The counter over there

1824
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 1: got a milk, a couple of frogs. Well, it was

1825
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 1: good man. This has been like a really educational couple

1826
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 1: of days for me, like a handful of different activities,

1827
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 1: and then the sword fish and stuff is just kind

1828
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 1: of shocking to me. I think I'll be talking about

1829
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 1: that for a long time. That's pretty cool, especially when

1830
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: any catching that quick. Yeah, everybody leaves a dot at nine,

1831
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 1: were already running home by what fifty two big two,

1832
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 1: big huge fish land in the bottom of uh ycluding

1833
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 1: thoughts and the final guy on those sword fish like

1834
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 1: that eyeball. Right, Well, I mean it makes sense right

1835
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 1: where they live. But you don't catch fish that have

1836
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,759
Speaker 1: an eye that. I mean that thing might be bigger

1837
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 1: in your eye too, definitely two to three inches. That's

1838
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: a good point, big around as a Copenhagen can There

1839
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 1: you go, Ryan, you're you're mate. That was out with us.

1840
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 1: I was talking about when you bring a he's talking

1841
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: about bringing a macop up in the boat and he says,

1842
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 1: when you're walking around the boat that Magel watches follows

1843
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: you thus sketchy. You can see him following you, following

1844
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: you with his eyeball as you walk around. Yeah, we

1845
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: killed a couple of this. Well. I did have one

1846
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 1: of the final questions where airboat culture outside of southern Florida,

1847
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 1: Like where where else do you find it? Um? Nebraska

1848
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 1: the Platte River they actually have. Um uh, they have

1849
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 1: pretty big event up there every year. They call it

1850
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 1: thunder on the Loop. They do like races that you

1851
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 1: know which they that's like a that's like car motor

1852
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 1: boat territory. You know they run a lot of what's

1853
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 1: down here too. You know there's a lot, but um,

1854
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 1: you know Louisiana, Texas, UM Mexico. You know a lot

1855
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 1: of the duck hunting. You know, they got a lot

1856
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 1: of the duck hunting operations down there. They use them. Alaska,

1857
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 1: Alaska caribou moose hunters using airboats. And you see guys

1858
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:00,560
Speaker 1: even fishing same without airboats. I mean even um you

1859
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 1: know Illinois, um there starting you know there is some

1860
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 1: air boat in there that I've heard about through conversations

1861
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: and that. Um. But I would say as far as

1862
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 1: recreational airboat use, South Florida, Central Florida is like the

1863
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 1: mecca for it, you know, and we have multiple actual

1864
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 1: manufacturers here, diamond Back air Boats, T t O, Stossil

1865
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 1: air Boats, UM actual Classic UM looma tach like actual

1866
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 1: places where you can go get a production built boat.

1867
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 1: You know, I've been in the which we were up

1868
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: what last year at diamond Backs plant. Pretty cool operation

1869
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 1: to see how they actually, I mean you go from

1870
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: where our boats were built where it's kind of a

1871
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 1: one man shop, handbuilt, Hal's aircraft riveted. You know, everything's

1872
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 1: done with hand jigs. Where diamond Back everything's done by

1873
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 1: they have actual jigs built. They have it's like a line,

1874
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 1: you know, guys, Weldon Halls Uh, they're cranking them out. Yeah,

1875
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:11,600
Speaker 1: they crank them out, you know, more like your UM agencies,

1876
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 1: you know FWC. You know they go as far as

1877
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 1: Louisiana and that you know they buy more from them. Now. Um,

1878
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 1: and that's you know on that touching on that. You know,

1879
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 1: so there there is. Actually it's a pretty decent sized

1880
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 1: industry here for that because we're in ground zero of

1881
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 1: air bolt culture. Yeah, I would say, Um, our friend,

1882
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 1: I keep thinking. My concluding thought, I'm gonna do it

1883
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 1: right now is are a guy we work with, Garrett

1884
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 1: Dirt myth he'd like it down here because people like

1885
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 1: to chew tobacco and he loves chewing, but none of

1886
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 1: us to chew with him. He come down here to

1887
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 1: drive around and air bolts having to chew the heaven

1888
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: man and he likes to turn a wrench and yeah,

1889
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: he likes motor sports, like chewing tobacco, motor sports. He'd

1890
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 1: be all over the you know what, you know what

1891
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 1: they about all this? Is it? Just the other day

1892
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 1: we were driving around and Uh, I don't know what

1893
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:10,520
Speaker 1: we're doing. We're at the airport, maybe getting those immigration

1894
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:13,799
Speaker 1: not to immigration, the customs forms for guns going to Mexico. Anyways,

1895
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 1: were early and the guy wouldn't see us early. We

1896
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 1: had to show up on time. So we went to

1897
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: get a beer and uh, it was snowing and it

1898
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,560
Speaker 1: was kind of cold, and he's like, yeah, you know,

1899
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm kind of getting over the winter. Really Yeah, so

1900
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 1: we might have just found found his you know, his

1901
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 1: new place. He likes the ice climb though. This guy's

1902
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 1: throwing the motors that when he sees uh like he's

1903
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 1: I've seen him be almost moved to tears By super Cubs,

1904
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 1: moved tears By, but just like just like strikes him

1905
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 1: somewhere down deep. Uh, Matt Cook, you know, I was

1906
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 1: just talking about Ryan and Josh. You know the reason

1907
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 1: I come downers. They really represent kind of the essence

1908
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 1: of South Florida where I mean, as far as you've

1909
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 1: got commercial fishing. And it's fun to see how that

1910
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 1: whole thing plays out. Obviously, Josh uh amateur trying to

1911
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 1: be professional bass fishermen on Okechobi, etcetera. It's just fun

1912
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 1: to see. I know, you like to fish bass, but

1913
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 1: you want to become a tournament bass. I fished a

1914
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:22,600
Speaker 1: lot of tournaments, um fish, some amateur event, you know,

1915
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 1: a lot of amateur obviously, we have you know, tons

1916
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: of you know amateur event team tournaments here, UM fish,

1917
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:35,440
Speaker 1: some flw outdoors events, and you know, got some aspirations

1918
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 1: that go pro you know one day, you know, sooner

1919
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 1: or later. I like specializing in what we do because

1920
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 1: our style of fishing is you know, unique in its

1921
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 1: own you know, they just had a tour level event

1922
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: on the lake with on Okeechobi, which is you know

1923
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: they travel throughout the country and it's neat because you

1924
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,719
Speaker 1: know what's kind it's hand in hand. When the Florida

1925
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 1: guys go North Alabama, Tennessee River, Valley Lakes, you know,

1926
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 1: Gunnersville real popular, you know bass fishing. UM, we tend

1927
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 1: to we struggle a little bit because we're so shallow minded.

1928
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,599
Speaker 1: I mean I don't I don't ever use it that finder.

1929
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 1: You know, we're shallow minded meaning you know what I mean.

1930
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 1: Like we're like you're talking site fishing where I'm I'm

1931
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 1: a yeah, you don't know about Like we don't fish

1932
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 1: ledges and you know here and there, but we don't

1933
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 1: fish deep water clear water. You know, we're used to fishing,

1934
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, punching is what we call it, which is

1935
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:44,759
Speaker 1: a you know, using a one ounce yeah, punching match.

1936
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta you probably heard of him the

1937
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:51,679
Speaker 1: he's an amateur bass angler out of Oregon, um Matt Elliott.

1938
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, he told me he broke the whole world

1939
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 1: of bass fishing down. And he's like also talks about

1940
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 1: all the different basque cultures. But he's from fishing small

1941
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 1: mouth and moving water in the Pacific Northwest. Yeah, very different.

1942
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 1: I would be lost. That's more like fishing. That'd be

1943
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,720
Speaker 1: like from your perspective, would be more like fishing for swordfish.

1944
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 1: You know, that's you know what. And on our side

1945
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 1: worth fishing heavy cover, you know, thick vegetation. That's kind

1946
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:26,560
Speaker 1: of that's my specialty. And um you know where a

1947
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,560
Speaker 1: lot of guys are more into the finesse. You know.

1948
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean when I go bass fishing, I'm fishing with

1949
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 1: a seven eleven seven and eleven inch rod, almost eight

1950
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 1: foot rod, extra heavy action, sixty five pound braid. Like

1951
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 1: it's you gotta get him out of the junk because

1952
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 1: when you flip in there. You know, the gloria fish

1953
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: in Florida is any flip can be a ten pound fish.

1954
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,680
Speaker 1: You know. Um on like Akachobe when the when when

1955
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 1: it's when the lake is producing at its top um

1956
01:48:57,040 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 1: depending on conditions. And you know, obviously we had a

1957
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 1: hurricane come through this year and that actually, you know,

1958
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 1: change even the everglades. That change a lot of our

1959
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 1: landscape if you call it um. So that affects things,

1960
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 1: you know. And one of the cool things about Florida

1961
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 1: and our fisheries is in the freshwater world, in the

1962
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 1: bath fishing is it changes a lot. So it's always

1963
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 1: a justin you know, you'll hear guys, you know, pros,

1964
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 1: guys at fish you know for a living. They come

1965
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:29,640
Speaker 1: down here and they you know, they'll come down and

1966
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 1: have GPS marks from last year and they'll say they

1967
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 1: just erase everything and start all over because it doesn't know.

1968
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 1: She's constantly changing. So you ever f upitty large mouths. Yeah,

1969
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 1: not in a long time. I'm kind of It's like

1970
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 1: one of those things where now I feel, you know,

1971
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 1: I have a hard time killing one. Yeah. My dad

1972
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: and my dad's a redneck, Like I mean, I've read neck,

1973
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 1: but my dad is. My dad's on the old school.

1974
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard for him to put back. You know,

1975
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 1: he looks at you know, we always mess when we

1976
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 1: go deer hunt and we say, you don't see horns

1977
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 1: when they walk out, he sees pork tops, you know,

1978
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 1: so that's kind of you know, but we you know,

1979
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,680
Speaker 1: I I don't I really don't like I can tell

1980
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 1: you a good story about Matt, you know, but Matt

1981
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 1: finish up your concluded though you concluding thought, No, I

1982
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 1: just uh, you know, I think people enjoy Florida for

1983
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 1: the beaches. You know, you always hear about Miami and

1984
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 1: and or the West Coast Naples. But for me, the

1985
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 1: essence of Florida is is kind of the center of

1986
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 1: the state. And what's fun to come down here in

1987
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 1: this area is you obviously can freshwater fish. And then

1988
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, for everyone listening, you're only ten minutes away

1989
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 1: fift and you can go deep water fishing. I mean,

1990
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 1: so oh yeah, yeah that's we We woke up this

1991
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 1: morning in the in the swamp house, the swap stillt house,

1992
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 1: and fished off shore. Yeah. People can't conceive of that.

1993
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 1: You can do all of that in a three day period. Yeah.

1994
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:54,680
Speaker 1: We had to take an airboat to get into the

1995
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 1: big boat. Yeah. We almost squeezed in a large mouth

1996
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 1: on Okechobee and and uh um, striper hunting. You know.

1997
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 1: So it's just a magnificent place for the outdoors. You

1998
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 1: can't and you can do so many things in a

1999
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: short period of time. So that's the reason I come down,

2000
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 1: and these two guys have opened my eyes to it.

2001
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 1: Sportsman's paradise, gladesman, I am. I want to be gladesman,

2002
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 1: which is totally different guest gladesman. Yeah, guess gladesman. Ryan,

2003
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 1: you got the concluding thoughts? Does anything you want to

2004
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 1: stick in there couldn't stick in there? I can't really

2005
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 1: think it too much. Yeah, Um, how old do you

2006
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 1: think you want to before you get married? Like? What

2007
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 1: would be like? Do you have in your head like

2008
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 1: a cut off at which you I think that people

2009
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 1: should be married personally. I'm not leaning on you yet

2010
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 1: about it, but I think that people should be married.

2011
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 1: I think it will do a lot for your fishing. Yeah,

2012
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 1: I don't have to go anymore. She's got a bunch

2013
01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 1: of money. It gives you already of mind. Yeah, we'll

2014
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:06,560
Speaker 1: talk about this later. Um, all right, everyone, thanks for

2015
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 1: joining us.