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Speaker 1: Delaware State, mister DeShawn Jackson D Jack for joining us.
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Speaker 1: Let's get right into it, bro head Coach Delaware State.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: If somebody said, okay, give I'm gonna give you a
Speaker 1: list of players former NFL players that were that were
Speaker 1: all decades, players that were Pro Bowl players, all pro players.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a list of ten guys. Name
Speaker 1: the guy that you think was most likely to become
Speaker 1: a head coach on any level. D Jack, I can
Speaker 1: honestly say I wouldn't. I wouldn't have put you at
Speaker 1: the top of the list, D Jack. What made you
Speaker 1: decide to become a head coach? I was gonna say, Dan,
Speaker 1: you wasn't. Wouldn't have put me up there? Man, damn
Speaker 1: not No, not, not at the top of the list.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I mean honestly for me, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: the opportunity to present itself, Pabas. I retired in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two. I played in Baltimore, and after that year
Speaker 3: was over, I retired and I walked away feeling like
Speaker 3: I left everything out there on in between the white lines.
Speaker 3: So for me, I sat around for a whole year,
Speaker 3: didn't contemplate on that, and I was like, you know
Speaker 3: what I deserve, after all the fuse of these layers,
Speaker 3: all the hard work I put into it, I deserve
Speaker 3: to sit around for a whole year and I do nothing.
Speaker 2: I woke up at two o'clock.
Speaker 3: If I wanted to took the kids to school, I partied,
Speaker 3: I hung out, I did just regular things that I
Speaker 3: wanted to do after all these rid years of working out.
Speaker 3: So after that year, I was like, you know, I
Speaker 3: gotta get my butt off this couch and get get
Speaker 3: some income. You know, me and Lashan mccorby at our
Speaker 3: podcast trying to figure out if I was going to
Speaker 3: do the media side of you know, and for me
Speaker 3: it was just like I really didn't know where's ready
Speaker 3: to go. And I started coaching. I went out My
Speaker 3: older brother was a high school football coach, and I
Speaker 3: went out there and I coached with her man, and
Speaker 3: I fell in love with coaching man. So Delaware State
Speaker 3: thing just kind of honestly fell on my left after
Speaker 3: my first year of coaching. Last year at the end
Speaker 3: of the year kind of just fell on my lap, Broy.
Speaker 4: Has it been has it been a difference, I know,
Speaker 4: being able to coach at the high school level with
Speaker 4: your brother.
Speaker 2: Has it been a difference in transition?
Speaker 4: Has it been difficult you know, coaching at the Collesiic
Speaker 4: level now or if you to adjust to it somewhat, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I mean, great question. I feel like for sure
Speaker 3: there's definitely been an adjustment.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of things. It's different. It's a lot
Speaker 2: of things that I was blind. I was blinded, like
Speaker 2: I didn't know I was in the dark. You know.
Speaker 3: As far as me, honestly me, I never like I
Speaker 3: played all these years.
Speaker 2: You know, I played obviously in college. I was never
Speaker 2: one of them dudes. It was like, when I get done,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go coach so so.
Speaker 3: So unk you kind of are right. But at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, like now I'm in this position.
Speaker 3: I remember when I was in heighol, I mean college
Speaker 3: and the pros, I said I would never coach obviously, because.
Speaker 2: I knew how much time my college coaches and my.
Speaker 3: NFL coaches put into it. So for me, I think
Speaker 3: the biggest thing is the off the field stuff. The
Speaker 3: excell nose to me is easy because you know, I
Speaker 3: was I was a student of a game, and I
Speaker 3: always when it came down to football, I'm very football smart.
Speaker 2: I just think from like the.
Speaker 3: Compliance, the admissions, like getting kids in the school. You know,
Speaker 3: in the NFL, you ain't got to worry about school.
Speaker 3: We going out there and playing. We ain't got to
Speaker 3: worry about if the dudes got a three point on
Speaker 3: or higher. They go and study hours, like are they
Speaker 3: doing what they supposed to do? Because you know so
Speaker 3: I was far removed from that side of it. So
Speaker 3: now being in his position, it's like, I gotta be
Speaker 3: a father to ninety cats.
Speaker 1: DJ when you look at it, you know, talking to
Speaker 1: Coach Prime and talking to a lot of people that
Speaker 1: were great at a particular craft, being a basketball coach
Speaker 1: or be a basketball player, football player, baseball. For me,
Speaker 1: I think the hardest thing to do is because you
Speaker 1: put work into it. But it seemed like football came
Speaker 1: easy to you. You would bless God, bless you with God,
Speaker 1: get with speed out of the yin Yang.
Speaker 2: You were very, very elusive.
Speaker 1: And the thing when I talked to Coach Prime, He's like,
Speaker 1: because I don't look at them kids and I expect
Speaker 1: them to beat me. What has been the hardest thing
Speaker 1: as far as like, because you were a great player,
Speaker 1: you went to Pro Bowls, you and all Pro, an
Speaker 1: all decade player, what's been the hardest thing to like
Speaker 1: the coach are player and not say well Son, you.
Speaker 2: Should have picked that up. That's easy. How do you
Speaker 2: separate that?
Speaker 1: Like, make sure you you understand that they're not DeShawn
Speaker 1: Jackson they're who they are, and you are who you are.
Speaker 2: Honestly that the hardest challenge has been.
Speaker 3: You know, over my career, the accolades, the stats, the
Speaker 3: Pro Bowls, all pro everything I accomplished, for me, it
Speaker 3: did come easy to me. So running fast, catching the football,
Speaker 3: when the balls in my hand, doing the things that
Speaker 3: you know, the characteristics that I did, it came easy
Speaker 3: to me. So it's unfortunate to say after I look
Speaker 3: back at my career, if I would have put in
Speaker 3: the extra push up, if I didn't cut a rep short,
Speaker 3: if I would have put more time into my craft,
Speaker 3: just imagine how much more I would have like or
Speaker 3: how better I would have.
Speaker 2: Been at my craft.
Speaker 3: So for me being in this position now, the things
Speaker 3: I may not have done or the things I made it.
Speaker 2: Took the short cut out.
Speaker 3: I'm not allowing my players to miss that because I
Speaker 3: know the success I had and I'm like, man, if
Speaker 3: I would have did the extra and like you're not,
Speaker 3: just thought it came so easy to me, Like if
Speaker 3: I would have put the work in, just imagine where
Speaker 3: I would have been sitting there. So for me, I
Speaker 3: think the toughest thing is has been for me. It's like, damn,
Speaker 3: I I played at this high level. I took I
Speaker 3: cut corners. I didn't always give my all because it
Speaker 3: came easy. But for me now I'm like, look, don't
Speaker 3: go do what I did and that and what else
Speaker 3: was crazy is I see my players doing things I
Speaker 3: once did and I'm trying to coach them, like, hey,
Speaker 3: don't do that.
Speaker 2: But I'm in the here go me ten twenty years ago,
Speaker 2: I was the one bid that stuff they doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ain't the funny thing about it, But I think
Speaker 4: about it, you know, being a competitor, Jack you and
Speaker 4: you not too far removed from the game of football.
Speaker 2: You just retired in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: You're able to put cleets on, lace them up and
Speaker 4: get out there and play. How are you able to
Speaker 4: control yourself because I ain't played in a minute and
Speaker 4: put me in astruction.
Speaker 2: Environment like that?
Speaker 4: My crazy ass on having a pair of cleet trying
Speaker 4: to demonstrate and teach and actually be in the way
Speaker 4: as opposed to being a being a teacher and being
Speaker 4: a coach like you are. Do you ever get antsy
Speaker 4: and want to put your cleatson sometimes and show players
Speaker 4: what it should look like?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I like, honestly, man, I'm thirty eight years old.
Speaker 2: Some of these guys obviously.
Speaker 3: Anywhere from nineteen to twenty four, twenty five years old.
Speaker 3: So in this role right now, man like I still train,
Speaker 3: i still work out, I'll still run. Like I'm telling
Speaker 3: my players, like there ain't too many head coaches, it's
Speaker 3: gonna strapping up with you in a Reil one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifties with you like we on the track, like
Speaker 3: you know. Cause me the reason why I was able
Speaker 3: to play so long because I always utilized the track
Speaker 3: in the offseason. So my players, we just was out
Speaker 3: in the field today. We had two three hundreds, we
Speaker 3: had one two hundred, and we had three one fifties
Speaker 3: and I'm out there random with them. I may i
Speaker 3: may not be in the front with them, but I'm
Speaker 3: so so for me that's been the challenge man, because
Speaker 3: you know, when I go out there, we do the
Speaker 3: cone drills, we run through it, and I gotta show
Speaker 3: these dudes to some of these dudes taking five six
Speaker 3: steps to get out, they breaks and I'm like, you
Speaker 3: never five six bron they ain't take it.
Speaker 2: But some of these dudes is you know what I'm
Speaker 2: saying it's crazy. The other thing, when I got.
Speaker 3: Here some of these dudes, and know this respect to
Speaker 3: the coaches before, but I'm like, bro, how did some
Speaker 3: of y'all get scholarship to a Division one school?
Speaker 2: Bro? Who gave y'all scholarships?
Speaker 3: So like, for me, it's just like I'm trying to
Speaker 3: You're trying to put my eye on it. And I
Speaker 3: know for us to win right now, it's not a
Speaker 3: reblooding process. We got to win right now, and I
Speaker 3: know what it takes. So some of these guys, they
Speaker 3: just don't fit the criteria. So sometimes I do got
Speaker 3: to get out there and put them feets on, let
Speaker 3: them go. I can still run a bench roud, I
Speaker 3: can still run a curl, I can still take the top.
Speaker 2: Walk, I can still do this big dark Yeah, I
Speaker 2: like it. I like it. D Jack.
Speaker 1: Look, you love Philly. I don't me personally, and I'm
Speaker 1: considerably older than y'all. I'm almost twenty years older than you,
Speaker 1: but I followed your career and I know you love Philly.
Speaker 1: Philly loved you because Philly loved guys that that love
Speaker 1: what they do, and you love what you did. You
Speaker 1: get in the crowd of like, Hey, get it up,
Speaker 1: get it up. Hey, I'm about to bring this thing back.
Speaker 1: You get a touchdown, you run back with until the
Speaker 1: end zone. I don't think you ever wanted to leave Philly.
Speaker 1: You had a very public falling out with Chick Kelly.
Speaker 1: What was that like knowing that, you know what, I
Speaker 1: never wanted to leave Philly, but I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Have to leave Philly. Man, I mean, man, I go
Speaker 2: back man in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3: Man, that for me, that that was one of the
Speaker 3: toughest things I've had to face in my life. When
Speaker 3: you talk about adversity, when you talk about trials and tribulations,
Speaker 3: I mean everything Philly meant to me. Obviously, my family
Speaker 3: is from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, So I grew up with Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: Stiller fans. So when I got a chance to get
Speaker 3: drafted by the Eagles, you know, I have some Philly
Speaker 3: I have some family that actually lived in Philadelphia because
Speaker 3: it's down the street from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, so for me, man, it was a bittersweet thing.
Speaker 3: And like now, looking back, Harrol Carmichael is the all
Speaker 3: time Philadelphia leader in yours all time and he had
Speaker 3: like sixty eight hundred I'm had sixty three hundred as
Speaker 3: far as Philadelia and Philadelphia years and I played five
Speaker 3: years and I came back and played two years.
Speaker 2: So oh no, I think it was six and there eight,
Speaker 2: so totally eight years.
Speaker 3: But in my whole career fifteen years, I got eleven
Speaker 3: thousand plus yards. So if I have stayed there my
Speaker 3: whole career, I'm shattering here Harold Carmichael record in no
Speaker 3: disrespect because I think Harrol Carmichael was, you know, one
Speaker 3: of the best receivers that played for the Eagles. But
Speaker 3: I look back. You know, Davonte Smith, you got a J. Brown,
Speaker 3: You got all these dudes that you know, their accolades
Speaker 3: that they calming up the charts, and it's like, and
Speaker 3: if I would have stayed there, man, the true would
Speaker 3: have been hard for anybody to chatter will to be really,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Them dudes are Browners. You know what I'm saying. Davonte,
Speaker 2: I think he's you know him and AJ together.
Speaker 3: I mean obviously, you know when me and maclau was there,
Speaker 3: Jeremy McLain was there, we did some great things.
Speaker 2: I know too is a guy that comes up.
Speaker 3: But I mean, honestly, man, what I felt like when
Speaker 3: I'm dealing in Philadelphia, all the big plays me and
Speaker 3: Michael Vig, I can't even go back.
Speaker 2: To Donovan nav Nick Foles. I mean, I played with
Speaker 2: so many great quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: But I think that phil that Philly break up man
Speaker 3: for us as a team with Chim Kelly.
Speaker 2: Did man like he dismantled.
Speaker 3: I think a team that obviously could have been a
Speaker 3: super Bowl team now we had to would have.
Speaker 2: Still had to go out there and you know, earn
Speaker 2: that and do that.
Speaker 3: But twenty seventeen I think had a lot of credibility
Speaker 3: to the to the old times of the Philadelphia. Like
Speaker 3: if you go ask Brandon Graham, Kelsey, Lane Johnson, like
Speaker 3: all them dudes would tell you, like you know, me,
Speaker 3: Michael Vick, Shaney, McCoy, Jeremy Max and brest Selik, like
Speaker 3: all them core guys or guys that when we left,
Speaker 3: they just kind of took the pedigree and kind of
Speaker 3: just took it off.
Speaker 2: Just out when I was drafted. You have me.
Speaker 3: Now if you've had Westbrook, you had Brian Dawkins, you know,
Speaker 3: like that's the court of Philadelphia. We turned into the
Speaker 3: court at Trotter. You know, we we turned into that
Speaker 3: court Philadelphia. So twenty seventeen, a lot of that we
Speaker 3: carried over. You know, they took that on and won
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: What would what was the what was the environment? Like
Speaker 1: when when Kelly was there, because it seemed like they
Speaker 1: had a lot of issues. You had the issue with
Speaker 1: the receiver at the concert. I don't know were you
Speaker 1: there then?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I was there when Rodney Cooper said the
Speaker 2: commun roley.
Speaker 1: I had Mike to get up in front of them
Speaker 1: and accept like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2: Don't don't put that pressure on me.
Speaker 1: Hey, I gotta see some things before I started accepting
Speaker 1: the pologies.
Speaker 2: Shoot, well, I ain't even heard him say that.
Speaker 1: He apology, He apologized, and you talked about Mike Vickers said, No,
Speaker 1: Mike ain't scept nothing. What was the type of environment
Speaker 1: that he fostered when he got there?
Speaker 2: Oh man, at that period of time.
Speaker 3: Just I'll go back before the Rodney Cooper, Uh you
Speaker 3: know that situation. But like when when Chip Kenny first
Speaker 3: came in. For those who don't know, he literally came
Speaker 3: in and you got pro boilers. When I tell you
Speaker 3: all the pro bowler event was a pro bowler McCoy
Speaker 3: was a pro bowler, Jeremy mac thein was, you know,
Speaker 3: a thousand yard receiver. I mean we had got bred Selik.
Speaker 3: I mean we had guys I ain't even talking on
Speaker 3: the defensive side. We had guys that were ballers. When
Speaker 3: Ship Kenny came in there, he literally had a meeting
Speaker 3: and he said, there's no starters. So you so you
Speaker 3: telling me you coming into a team that got them
Speaker 3: type of names that I just said, and you saying here,
Speaker 3: you know what?
Speaker 2: He started like we did. He was not starting like
Speaker 2: everybody just was boring and we didn't have no first dream,
Speaker 2: no secret. Like it was crazy. So hold on, Jack,
Speaker 2: what is he trying to prove?
Speaker 4: He's he's coming into a team with a bunch of
Speaker 4: pro bowlers that have been playing for a long time,
Speaker 4: and tell y'all, you gotta.
Speaker 2: Have to earn your position. You feel me? Bro Buddy
Speaker 2: was but Buddy was?
Speaker 3: He He lost his bre like day won, Buddy lost
Speaker 3: everybody power trip. It was a power trip and like
Speaker 3: he came from Oregon where he has success. But I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be real, Like everything he was doing, we was
Speaker 3: like guinea pigs. We was like lab rats, like he
Speaker 3: was like, oh uh, put a heart mon on it
Speaker 3: at night time. I wouldn't know how many hours you slept.
Speaker 3: When you come to work, I want you to pee
Speaker 3: in a cup and I want to see how hydrated
Speaker 3: you are. I'm gonna put trackers on you. I need
Speaker 3: to know how many. Like it was just crazy and
Speaker 3: like I ain't gonna lie. I was want me and
Speaker 3: McCoy we was there. I mean, Vic was he had
Speaker 3: to play the role because you know he was coming
Speaker 3: off the situation. But me and Shady McCoy we was like, hey, bro,
Speaker 3: we ain't doing that. It's some ship were just not
Speaker 3: gonna do. And so so. So to go back to
Speaker 3: that situation with Rodney Cooper, I mean I can remember
Speaker 3: that meeting like he was yesterday. He literally he said
Speaker 3: the comments and one thing about Rodney Cooper.
Speaker 2: Like Rodney Cooper, he wasn't racist, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I just think he got into a situation intoxicated. Somebody
Speaker 3: says something to him and he just slurred that out.
Speaker 3: But like Rodney Cooper was actually a good dude man,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like I had a great
Speaker 3: relationship with him, and when it happened.
Speaker 2: I just knew. I'm like brouh, not like that. But
Speaker 2: it did happen.
Speaker 3: It did come out, and how red came out, he
Speaker 3: may felt the way he felt so for us, before
Speaker 3: we accepted any apologies, we like, we got to really
Speaker 3: see that this shit is sincere. So I think you know,
Speaker 3: he tried to force that on this He tried. They
Speaker 3: tried to patch it up. They tried to do a
Speaker 3: team meeting and cover it up. But it was like,
Speaker 3: when we got in trouble, you ain't passionate enough for us,
Speaker 3: so why why you gonna go patch it up for him?
Speaker 2: So it just the team didn't.
Speaker 3: It didn't send a right for the team.
Speaker 4: Hey, when when you think about coaching, coaching college, coaching
Speaker 4: football in general as a coach, is this something that
Speaker 4: you view, Uh, it's something you want to do long term?
Speaker 4: Do you do your envision and envision doing it twenty
Speaker 4: plus years and maybe traditioning from college to the NFL club?
Speaker 3: He said twenty plus I mean, so hey, hey, d Jake,
Speaker 3: let me get through the first year and I get
Speaker 3: back at you. You feel me, man, I ain't gonna lie,
Speaker 3: but I haven't got a few grades bro, I've been
Speaker 3: already stressed out where they got me at New University.
Speaker 2: Man, you know it's HBCU. Man.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of you know, resources, we got
Speaker 1: a lot of obstitute, underfunded accomplished right here.
Speaker 2: So long term, man, I'm not gonna lie to you. Uh.
Speaker 2: I definitely love to see that man right now.
Speaker 3: Man, to be able to have the success I had
Speaker 3: on the field and now to be able to be
Speaker 3: a head coach where I control everything from top to bottom.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I ain't even no
Speaker 3: power trip type of dude, but just to have this
Speaker 3: control and to be able to say like that's the
Speaker 3: resemblance of me.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great feeling.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Every day I waked up, I'm rejuvenated. I'm excited to
Speaker 2: go in there.
Speaker 3: Because I'm gonna be real with you, uncontrolled. Like I
Speaker 3: didn't think it was gonna be this. I didn't think
Speaker 3: I was gonna have this much fun doing it, Bri,
Speaker 3: because I thought about the hours and when I when
Speaker 3: I get in there, I get in there about seven
Speaker 3: eight in the morning, and by the time I looked up,
Speaker 3: it's like five six o'clock.
Speaker 2: And then the day's already gone. You looked up like
Speaker 2: where did the time go?
Speaker 3: So it's really like when you're enjoying something in you
Speaker 3: and you passionate about it, it don't seem like work.
Speaker 2: Br and like honestly, like the meet is.
Speaker 3: I'm a head coach, so like I got an officsive coordinator,
Speaker 3: they run the meetings, I got a defensive coordinator. They
Speaker 3: run the meeting. So I just get to dip and dabble.
Speaker 3: And I don't got to sit in the fool of meeting.
Speaker 3: I don't got to do through installs. I don't gotta
Speaker 3: go like, I just got to be a leader of men.
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, I'm gonna make
Speaker 3: sure my coaches. That's why I surrounded myself and that's
Speaker 3: why I respect Crime so much because I feel like
Speaker 3: and this day, I'm not taking away from nothing that
Speaker 3: coach Prime does as a head coach, but he's more
Speaker 3: to me. He's more of a leader of men, and
Speaker 3: he you know, intelligence and smart, but he put people
Speaker 3: around him for him.
Speaker 2: To have success. And I just followed this with the
Speaker 2: blueprints that Big Bro put down.
Speaker 4: So I'm thinking about I know it's gonna happen I'm
Speaker 4: telling I know it's gonna happen. So you're gonna have
Speaker 4: success at Delaware State. You're gonna have to it.
Speaker 2: Just it's just just in us.
Speaker 4: Everything we touched turn the goal, every cut, we always
Speaker 4: have success and following behind us. So when you do
Speaker 4: get that call from Howie or Jeff and they'd be like, man, listen,
Speaker 4: you want you to come on down here to Philly
Speaker 4: and be the receiver's coach, and then you go to
Speaker 4: receive the coach at Philly though hopefully maybe one day.
Speaker 2: Something that doesn't doesn't happen.
Speaker 4: Often is here you have a player that actually gets
Speaker 4: in the position to be a head coach.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine you'd be crazy being the head coach
Speaker 2: of the Philadelphia down Man, who you telling? I'm manifesting
Speaker 2: it for you? Sure?
Speaker 3: I mean my boy at man Tonyo Pearce Man is
Speaker 3: somebody that I got a great relationship. Obviously I'll see
Speaker 3: his his uh you know, his his path and where
Speaker 3: he did, you know, obviously starting their law. He's probably
Speaker 3: where I went with my alma mater. Obviously one of
Speaker 3: the best high schools and all of all of America.
Speaker 3: We put the most you know, players in the NFL
Speaker 3: for my high Jack Rabbits. We feel me them Jack crabits.
Speaker 3: You already know about it. You feel what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: I mean I saw ap I see him go to Arizona.
Speaker 3: Obviously he did a sting Arizona State, and then you know,
Speaker 3: obviously he was in it for the Raiders and he
Speaker 3: got the head coaching job. And I still feel like
Speaker 3: he got up out of their way sooner than he
Speaker 3: should have. But you know, we ain't gonna talk about that.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know, if it presents itself, man,
Speaker 3: and that happens, man, God, you know, all all glory,
Speaker 3: all power to God. But you know, for me, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna take it one step at a time. Like like
Speaker 3: you said, I'm for show gonna have a success here
Speaker 3: because I just, like you say, everything we touch his gold.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And you know already, man, we've been doing some crazy
Speaker 3: things like I ain't never been this much attention on
Speaker 3: Delaware State. The minute I was signed as a head coach.
Speaker 3: I mean, we got ours turning. We got players that
Speaker 3: never would ever consider us. They come and they lock
Speaker 3: it in, locking in with us, we out beeat Marriland Temple,
Speaker 3: some big time NBS schools, and we got some good
Speaker 3: talent coming here. So all I all, I asked some
Speaker 3: little ready big res man just come support me, come
Speaker 3: to a game, you know, like you know, because everybody
Speaker 3: was on the sideline, would be on the Colorado.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need down in Delaware.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to definitely try to get down there.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, D Jack, You've had some
Speaker 1: great plays. You had the punt returnment punt return in
Speaker 1: the meddle Land as time expired, you ran it back.
Speaker 1: You had the Monday night throw from Big that probably
Speaker 1: the ball up like you traveled seventy.
Speaker 2: Yards in the air.
Speaker 1: Sure, when you span back of your career, give me
Speaker 1: a couple of plays.
Speaker 2: What plays that still.
Speaker 1: Stand out when you be thinking about it, you're riding
Speaker 1: in your car or you're sitting in your off You're like, damn,
Speaker 1: yeah that was a hell of a play.
Speaker 2: What plays pop up in D Jack's mind? Man?
Speaker 3: I got three specific players, obvious. See people always ask
Speaker 3: me like, what's my favorite player all time? And that's
Speaker 3: hard because I got so many great plays. But I
Speaker 3: got three plays, and I ain't gonna put no particular order,
Speaker 3: but I'm I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3: One was I can't remember what what what today was,
Speaker 3: but it was Dallas.
Speaker 2: We was playing Dallas Cowboys. Mike Mike Vic threw me
Speaker 2: a like an eight yard hitch. I caught it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you went all the way. He fell in the end
Speaker 2: zone backs nine ninety one yards. R Terryce Norman was
Speaker 2: chasing me down.
Speaker 3: I fell in on him down there, wanting to do
Speaker 3: the Marshall Lynch when the whole you know, you old,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So that that was one
Speaker 3: play Orlando Kendrick down that blew out all his Hams
Speaker 3: Street trying to come get me, and I'm just jogging.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hurt ankle. I heard my ankle earlier in
Speaker 3: that game. I'm just I ain't gonna say I'm jogging,
Speaker 3: but I'm ready. And I see him coming on like
Speaker 3: this dude that to.
Speaker 2: Catch my hogh step on him fall back in the
Speaker 2: end zone.
Speaker 3: The second one the Monday Night first played the game
Speaker 3: where Lawron Landry was talking all that smack before the game,
Speaker 3: trying to put his hand.
Speaker 2: On the shoulder. I'm like, hey, home, me don't touch me.
Speaker 3: And for those of y'all who don't know, he said
Speaker 3: some crazy things to me and he took me off.
Speaker 3: He said, boy, I'm gonna kill you on this field.
Speaker 3: I said, damn me tell you that person. Are you
Speaker 3: trying to kill me?
Speaker 2: I would say.
Speaker 3: The second was that the past from vic he threw
Speaker 3: about seventy yards and the last but not least as
Speaker 3: the pump return, you know, versus versus when I dropped it.
Speaker 3: I tell everybody I dropped it on purpose, set it
Speaker 3: up so everybody could get out their lanes, and then
Speaker 3: when I looked up, I hit that thing and it
Speaker 3: was nothing but success.
Speaker 2: After that, boy Jason brom that defeated block.
Speaker 1: Hey, you do realize, Djack, you started something. It was
Speaker 1: you on that Monday night game that dropped that ball
Speaker 1: at the DAYN one yard line against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: You started that bull dyp d Jack. You know that, right? Hey, man,
Speaker 2: you know what I said about that man. You know
Speaker 2: I was a bonehead.
Speaker 3: I was young and I was a rookie, and it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I did the same thing when I in the high
Speaker 3: schooled American game, when I I tried dead. It's no
Speaker 3: So you know who really started. Reggie Bush started. It's
Speaker 3: his fun because they was playing UCLA. USC was playing
Speaker 3: Ucla in the Rose Bowl and this sucker jumped from
Speaker 3: the five yard line and Kurk wored into the end zone.
Speaker 3: So when I got a chance in the Army game,
Speaker 3: I said, I'm gonna jump from the six. Why jumped
Speaker 3: from the I jumped from the city. Why got up
Speaker 3: in the here? I said, Oh, I dropped that ball earlier.
Speaker 4: I said, I can't do that one. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 4: so funny. It's so funny too. They miss it a
Speaker 4: jack when we was playing when we played Notre Dame
Speaker 4: in the Fiesta Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think when they the dB.
Speaker 4: Tried to jump the out roude it was it was
Speaker 4: out route and the dB he jumped a little too early.
Speaker 4: So I'm going down the sideline against Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: In the Fiesta Bowl. Hell, I dropped the god.
Speaker 4: Damn ball, and damned it looked like back at the two,
Speaker 4: but the listen, the rest was so far behind.
Speaker 2: They could they couldn't even see it. Damn. So you
Speaker 2: got away from what you tell them?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got yeah, got away with one. Luck would
Speaker 4: have been the first ball that way back in two thousand, you.
Speaker 1: Would have been a thirty You know what I'm looking
Speaker 1: at this schedule. You guys you played, you played mic
Speaker 1: in Norfolk State in October thirties.
Speaker 2: Play at the link. Oh, I got that. I got
Speaker 2: that done. The Jack got to Jack got that done.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That was first avers B Jacks.
Speaker 2: First ever.
Speaker 3: The h b c U is playing in the NFL
Speaker 3: stadium regular season now now bold game we play in
Speaker 3: Atlanta Stadium, but first time ever in the regular season
Speaker 3: game is being played in the NFL stadium.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man, That is that is amazing, man, d
Speaker 1: Jack Man, That's unbelieved.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Congratulations on the job. Man.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna do great You gotta you surrounded
Speaker 1: yourself with great coaches. You're gonna inspire these young men
Speaker 1: to do great things, not only in football but in life.
Speaker 2: You're gonna you.
Speaker 1: Know you you you you you your task on a
Speaker 1: huge responsibility, Jack, because these guys look at you and
Speaker 1: they want to get the word you got, sir. And
Speaker 1: even if they don't get there, if they become successful husbands,
Speaker 1: if they become successful businessman, they become successful brothers. That's
Speaker 1: all we can ask. That's all we can ask a
Speaker 1: great man, great young men.
Speaker 2: A serve man.
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing I'm preaching to these dudes
Speaker 3: because you know, we all know it's only a small
Speaker 3: few that's gonna get selected to very small ill So
Speaker 3: I tell my players all the time, man, hey walk
Speaker 3: across that stage.
Speaker 2: They can't never take that favor away from you. Know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: No, you know, my life in general, being a husband,
Speaker 3: being a brother, being a son, being a father man.
Speaker 3: Like everything I'm teaching these young man is prenciples that
Speaker 3: they could take for the rest of their life and
Speaker 3: help room them into being great young I mean, great
Speaker 3: man in the world in general.
Speaker 2: You wanna that's it, d Jack. I appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to catch a game. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to catch y'all. I might try to catch that League game.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that Delaware.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna make it all the
Speaker 1: way to Delaware, but I might be. I might be
Speaker 1: able to.
Speaker 2: Keep it.
Speaker 1: Oh all right, d Jack, we want to keep it
Speaker 1: for one more topic, o Jo, this is yours.
Speaker 2: Uh. We gotta let Ocho have his moment. O Jo
Speaker 2: said he want his moment.
Speaker 1: Cam fired some shots at o Jo in his sixty
Speaker 1: second job. Let's take a listen to what Cam had
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 2: Press pause, press pause. Who gives chad Ocho Cinco the
Speaker 2: right to give Madden rankings? He's been doing it for
Speaker 2: years now. I know he's not good at Madden. Okay,
Speaker 2: here we go? Is this one? Has anybody seen Chad
Speaker 2: O too Sinko play Madden? I know he's an avid gamer.
Speaker 2: I know he plays soccer. I don't get up a man.
Speaker 1: Listen, man, he plays man.
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen Chad O Sinko play. So is this?
Speaker 1: Is this all?
Speaker 2: Don't want to be one who like I don't even
Speaker 2: want to play it? Who's played like Bro? I'm a
Speaker 2: big browser. You know what I'm saying. Shout out to Mario.
Speaker 2: See that. Folks say it like Bro? You just can't
Speaker 2: start and just play me. No, I'm looking down at y'all, suckers.
Speaker 2: I'm looking down. You don't just get the right to
Speaker 2: play the great one? Are you serious? Do you know
Speaker 2: what these thumbs will do? Go to thumb production? Holden
Speaker 2: thumb production? Are you serious? I've never seen Chad play.
Speaker 2: He's not in the field for real, He's not. He's
Speaker 2: just that analytical guy. So I feel highly disrespected that
Speaker 2: Eya hasn't reached out to me to really give ratings, because.
Speaker 1: You're in the field for real, for real, okay, for real,
Speaker 1: and we're talking and and trust and.
Speaker 2: Believe where we can put whatever on it.
Speaker 3: Oh y'all where you're at bro pick up the phone, baby, heys.
Speaker 4: But that ain't nothing but nonsense, man, hein' somebody in
Speaker 4: the field. So basically, based on his logic, I can't
Speaker 4: get rating because I'm not good at Madden. So let's
Speaker 4: say I'm great at football in general.
Speaker 2: When I played it.
Speaker 4: Got here one of the best all time. That's what
Speaker 4: that for gives me the credibility to give ratings. Now,
Speaker 4: I don't know nothing about Cam Newton in no field
Speaker 4: when it comes no stick work. I've been gaming since
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty four. I've been gating eighty four and this
Speaker 4: stick work is the kind of stick work that Cam
Speaker 4: don't do. I ain't know he was a gamer. I
Speaker 4: don't even know he played Madden. I didn't know, so obviously,
Speaker 4: is whoever he think he is on the game. I
Speaker 4: don't know about it. I never seen him at a competition,
Speaker 4: and you know by everybody. Yeah, everybody know I play
Speaker 4: the game. Everybody know I do that. See Cam, This,
Speaker 4: this is just the thing with Cam Newton. You see
Speaker 4: Cam Newton plays Madden recreational. He plays games in general
Speaker 4: for recreational purposes, like our game is the way of
Speaker 4: life to pay my fucking bills.
Speaker 2: See that's the picture. Yeah, yeah, I'm different.
Speaker 4: I'most some other shit. But if he want to play,
Speaker 4: and we could put whatever on it. He talking spicy,
Speaker 4: we can put whatever you're talking about on it. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's what's up.
Speaker 2: And make it light on yourself. Cam. You're looking at
Speaker 2: each type of problem that Cam don't want.
Speaker 4: No smoke, man, Hey, Cam can't beat me, and nothing
Speaker 4: matter of fact about if I was the back up
Speaker 4: in Carolina, I would have took the motherfucking job.
Speaker 2: You didn't know.
Speaker 1: If you didn't know Cam was a gamer, you didn't
Speaker 1: know Cam was good at Madden or other video games.
Speaker 2: I don't know about it. Cam ain't good at You
Speaker 2: know who good at Madden?
Speaker 4: You know who I know about I know about Dead Bryant,
Speaker 4: I know is good at Madden. I know that you
Speaker 4: know his his his prowess on the game. And listen,
Speaker 4: I've heard about it.
Speaker 2: So I ain't hurt nothing about Cambod.
Speaker 1: Brian know how to play cause I remember Cam was
Speaker 1: challenging Lebron because I got thank Lebron's having like a
Speaker 1: top thousand or top five hundred, top something ranking.
Speaker 2: So I guess you get raped. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Listen, now you talk about somebody don't know this issue
Speaker 1: about Madden. But I guess you get. You get ranked,
Speaker 1: you get I mean, you play long enough and you
Speaker 1: get good, you get ranked, don't you Is that how
Speaker 1: it works?
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, I don't know. Man, the man, listen the man.
Speaker 4: He he talking spicy right. He could have picked up
Speaker 4: the phone to call me. He got my number, he
Speaker 4: could have picked up. Matter of FACT'M from the blocking.
Speaker 4: Now your block them? Now you like you coming out?
Speaker 4: You coming at a true game?
Speaker 2: You know this? Really? Do you do it for fun?
Speaker 2: I do it as a way of life. We we
Speaker 2: we different. We ain't even the same lane. When we
Speaker 2: talked about gaming, man, did jack you game?
Speaker 3: I messed around a little bit, but I heard Cam
Speaker 3: Newton like that. Though I ain't gonna lie see you
Speaker 3: know who. I really don't like that though, Durham James
Speaker 3: like that too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, derk okay, doubt that's another one. Irwin is Duram
Speaker 4: is that boy on them sticks? Man, I ain't heard nothing.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: Cam being like that on those sticks, man, can't can't,
Speaker 2: can't can just probably make you want to rate he
Speaker 2: want to rank them dudes. Man, just really coming at.
Speaker 4: You, man, God dang listen, listen, listen, Cam, if you
Speaker 4: you want to come over there with he with me
Speaker 4: and holler, boy, man, I got it, I got it, I.
Speaker 2: Got got you. Cam, come on over that baby.
Speaker 1: May y'all be hey, y'all be taking that stuff serious
Speaker 1: for real though, huk and listen, Hey that's serious, hey Jack, Jack,
Speaker 1: all my relationships ended behind gaming, man, for real.
Speaker 2: I can see that. Hey, I'm serious. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: At the time you on here, okay, you get off
Speaker 1: the game and get ready to get suited up exactly.
Speaker 2: Listen one thing about it. Check you got understand, Jack,
Speaker 2: You gotta understand. Listen.
Speaker 4: Gaming is forever talk really temporary. Listen, Hey, your game
Speaker 4: ain't gonna never wake up one morning and be like
Speaker 4: you know what you're tripping.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to do this no more. The
Speaker 2: game would never do that.
Speaker 4: Ain't always be the same every time, and it always
Speaker 4: bring out this happy side of you.
Speaker 2: Always bring out the satic side of you, no matter what.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Me watching boy, you got the right one? Boy playing
Speaker 4: with me? Man, stop playing on my top.
Speaker 1: Man, you know what I think. I'm gonna start playing.
Speaker 1: I won't get good to beat the brakes off you,
Speaker 1: O Joe. I get my fifty in our hunter back
Speaker 1: like that, then forget.
Speaker 2: I told them I'm gonna give you money. Man, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give you money. I can't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, I will. I'm gonna you know what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna start gaming. I'm gonna get good,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stream live when I beat you, like
Speaker 1: forty two to sevens.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna kid forty two to seven and what madden you?
Speaker 2: You can't even come on now? You can't, I am
Speaker 2: it's too soon. I ain't never played before, but I
Speaker 2: would get good. I'm gonna get good. You don't know
Speaker 2: how to work technology, so you definitely can I do
Speaker 2: voice command? Can I do voice command? Nat? Ain't no
Speaker 2: voice can We're not that, We're not that far advanced yet.
Speaker 1: I would go. I would go talk to zucker Bird.
Speaker 1: I said, look here, man, you got this AI, this metal.
Speaker 1: I want to be able to do my gaming. I
Speaker 1: want to be able to talk to it. I would.
Speaker 1: I would get good at Joe.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not because I don't have I don't have
Speaker 2: that kind of time. Yeah, you don't have that kind
Speaker 2: of time. Hey, let me ask you. Let me let
Speaker 2: me ask you about another thing, d Jack.
Speaker 1: The Steelers run random ball the fourth most last year,
Speaker 1: while Aaron Rodgers attempted the second most passes, and Arthur
Speaker 1: Smith spoke about marrying the run a heavy offense the
Speaker 1: lither past happy quarterback. We didn't bring Aaron here to
Speaker 1: sign DK for all that money to go run the wishbone,
Speaker 1: d Jack. Now that they have you, look, the Steelers
Speaker 1: have always had a defense that could get after the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: They kind of slacked off a little bit of that
Speaker 1: when they had Ben and ab And and Le'Veon. They
Speaker 1: were more of a pass happy offense and a defense
Speaker 1: kind of struggle.
Speaker 2: Seemingly, they gotten back.
Speaker 1: They got TJ Now and they got high Smith, and
Speaker 1: they got Menka, and they got Porter Junior on one side,
Speaker 1: so they got a really nice camp Heyworth they got him,
Speaker 1: so they got really a really nice defense. Now they
Speaker 1: got Aaron Rodgers. They signed DK solid offensive line. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's great, but it's okay. Friar mooth. They
Speaker 1: got Calvin Austin the third. They got some decent receivers.
Speaker 1: What is your expectation of the Steelers this year?
Speaker 2: What? What?
Speaker 1: What's the ceiling for the Steelers? Can they win the division?
Speaker 1: Can they make a deep run in the playoffs? Can
Speaker 1: they get to the super Bowl?
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Aaron Rodgers in my eyes, man.
Speaker 3: He's I'll put him as a top ten fifteen quarterback
Speaker 3: of all time in my in my books. So I
Speaker 3: think I think he's a guy all the seed coming
Speaker 3: off the injury last year, what was that the year before?
Speaker 2: Whenever they heck the end before was the year before? Right?
Speaker 3: And then obviously last year really didn't have a success
Speaker 3: we thought he would have.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 3: Like you said, the offensive line is really not the
Speaker 3: strength of that team, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 3: obvious see Aaron Rodgers, he's older now, what is he
Speaker 3: thirty nine forty? He's forty years old started the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I think obviously he can't be touched. He's not
Speaker 3: the younger a right, he can't move like he used
Speaker 3: to move. So I just don't see why would you
Speaker 3: go get rid of uh what's what's my pills?
Speaker 2: Receive?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: The receiver? Oh you're talking about uh George pick Is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't understand why get rid of George pack
Speaker 3: Is if you had any hopes that you was gonna
Speaker 3: sign the Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: So for me, I know you got DK Metcalf over there.
Speaker 3: I just don't honestly, I'm gonna be really so, I
Speaker 3: don't see them winning this division right now now with
Speaker 3: my boy L Jack now with my twin L Jack
Speaker 3: over there in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: And I ain't gonna lie, man.
Speaker 3: I think I think my boys Shador gonna get in
Speaker 3: that starting for job over there.
Speaker 2: I think I think Cleveland gonna be a little sum
Speaker 2: this year too.
Speaker 3: So and that division you got Cincinnati got Bro, you
Speaker 3: got you know, my boy Ojoe team over there, you
Speaker 3: got Jamarin Chase, you got T Higgins. I mean it's
Speaker 3: some copp in that division over there. Man, I don't
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be that sweet for the dudes to
Speaker 3: win that. I can't write that off and say they
Speaker 3: gonna win it this year.
Speaker 1: I can't, Oh, soe what you're thinking. They ran the
Speaker 1: ball the fourth most last year. Obviously, Rogers wants to
Speaker 1: throw the football. He's always had success throwing the football. Obviously,
Speaker 1: like Djack said, not the success that probably he thought
Speaker 1: he would have or everybody had the expectations because he
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the missing ingredient for the Jets
Speaker 1: to take that next step. Obviously it didn't pan out.
Speaker 1: They moved on after two years. What is your expectations
Speaker 1: for the Steelers.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, my expectations for them to compete.
Speaker 4: They're gonna compete not only the division, but whatever their
Speaker 4: schedule may look like, because they do have Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is not that Aaron Rodgers of old, but
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is better than what you had on your
Speaker 4: team before. He signed right before Mini camp. He gives
Speaker 4: him a chance to compete weekend and week out. As
Speaker 4: far as win the division, that's that's not likely. The
Speaker 4: division winners will probably be either the Bengals of the Ravens.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna be realistic here based on the record
Speaker 4: between between us, I'm an piggyback on what Lashawn said
Speaker 4: the two. At some point, Joe Flacco will probably lose
Speaker 4: that starting job to Shador and his tenure in Cleveland
Speaker 4: will also start.
Speaker 2: So outside of that, as.
Speaker 4: Many people that may hate Aaron Rodgers for the way
Speaker 4: he acts and then for all the stuff he does
Speaker 4: off the field, some of the things he says on
Speaker 4: camera and some of the things he says on TV,
Speaker 4: he does give you a chance, and he does give
Speaker 4: Stealer fans and that organization hope to compete weekend and
Speaker 4: week out.
Speaker 1: All right, d Jack, thanks for joining us head coach
Speaker 1: or the Delaware State d Jack. Djack, tell people how
Speaker 1: they can find you on social media. If you got
Speaker 1: a YouTube page, you got ig, you got Twitter, Facebook,
Speaker 1: Let our fans know how they can find you.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, man, I appreciate it though obviously one on
Speaker 3: one is my Instagram Shawn Jackson and attend at Twitter
Speaker 3: Delaware State underscore football as well too. We're gonna plub
Speaker 3: Delaware State in here, man. Everybody need to go out
Speaker 3: to man. Support that cause, man, August, I mean October thirtieth.
Speaker 3: Man at the link. Man come through. We had Lincoln Financial,
Speaker 3: who got my brother Michael Vig. We're gonna be first time.
Speaker 3: Obviously you've seen us a lot catching throwing, catch him touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Now we go ahead to head versus slid on the
Speaker 3: slide in our old stumber brounds. Man, So come out
Speaker 3: October thirtieth markete calendars. Man were going at that thing.
Speaker 1: Man, let's get it yep, gotter Sean Jackson, D jack
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Best of luck. Man, stop back by when you have
Speaker 2: some time. Bro. All right, man, y'all keep doing youall thing.
Speaker 2: Man bless us appreciate it right, all right, bro.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe Shamar Stewart is no longer at the mandatory
Speaker 1: minicap amid ongoing hold out with the Bengals over language
Speaker 1: they want to put into his rookie contract. Per Adam Schefter,
Speaker 1: Stuart left mandatory minicap due to contract dispute. Stuart, the
Speaker 1: number seventeenth overall draft pick, is one of four remaining
Speaker 1: unsigned first round selections from the twenty twenty five draft.
Speaker 1: His situation appears to be the most contentious from that group.
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talks Mike Florio reported on May twenty four
Speaker 1: that the issue between the Stewart and the Bengals involved
Speaker 1: a phrase in which the contract would allow a default
Speaker 1: in the current year to trigger a default in.
Speaker 2: All remaining years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, hey, just think about o Joe, just think
Speaker 1: you get a contract.
Speaker 2: Let's just say, for the sake of argument, I get
Speaker 2: a contract.
Speaker 1: I got a five year d I got a four
Speaker 1: year deal to fear the option they can pick it up.
Speaker 2: So let's just say, at my rookie year, I do something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, contract detriment, I get suspended NFL whatever, the NFL
Speaker 1: suspend me. Not only can they take the money back
Speaker 1: that first year, but your two year, three year.
Speaker 2: Four they get that guaranteed money too.
Speaker 4: Oh hell no, yeah, absolutely absolutely listen as a player
Speaker 4: and chat, y'all stay with me real quick. I'm not
Speaker 4: sure again. I asked this when we talked about it
Speaker 4: the other night. I asked, when it comes to Stewart,
Speaker 4: what does his background look like? You know, what has
Speaker 4: he done in the past. What did the Bengals find out, Like,
Speaker 4: We're gonna take a chance on this young on this
Speaker 4: young kid, because here's a tremendous talent. But there must
Speaker 4: have been some red flags that we don't know about.
Speaker 4: It has to be because there's no reason that the
Speaker 4: Bengals are trying to set a precedent all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: out the blue with this individual as good as he
Speaker 4: was in college, wanted you to and you wanted the
Speaker 4: draftic mis hot. I'm not sure what it is and
Speaker 4: if if it's something that other teams now, if it's
Speaker 4: something that other teams did, Okay, I understand, I understand that.
Speaker 4: But the fact, the fact of the matter is with
Speaker 4: that fine language, don't allow it to default money from
Speaker 4: years down down the road.
Speaker 2: Yeah, allowed to be a year to year thing like
Speaker 2: if you mess up this.
Speaker 4: Year as your rookie, well, all that guaranteed money your
Speaker 4: rookie year boom, young boy. You're not touching that, but
Speaker 4: all the money to come that's guaranteed moving forward on
Speaker 4: later years, that's a no no. As much as I
Speaker 4: love my Bangles, I mean, I just don't see and
Speaker 4: don't I don't understand what the issue is or why
Speaker 4: they're doing it.
Speaker 1: Well, the NFL should institute to find if a team
Speaker 1: gets fined for doing something all the money, the money
Speaker 1: that you would get in subsequent years would go away.
Speaker 1: So that four hundred and twenty five million dollars that
Speaker 1: you would get in twenty twenty six if you did,
Speaker 1: if you had something that go wrong in twenty five,
Speaker 1: you don't get twenty six, twenty seven or twenty eight money.
Speaker 2: I got one to go for that, right exactly. No,
Speaker 2: why do you expect players?
Speaker 1: Why do you think because you're in an advantageous situation
Speaker 1: that you want to say, we'll look take her to
Speaker 1: leave it?
Speaker 2: Hey, take your hands back to the draft, young man.
Speaker 2: I was just get ready to ask you that. Uh,
Speaker 2: I was just absolute.
Speaker 4: Now, canny, opt out and go back into the draft
Speaker 4: again and be drafted by somebody else.
Speaker 1: That'll be something that that's something that the Players Association
Speaker 1: would probably get the lawyers involved with the NFL, because look,
Speaker 1: you go back and look normally what happens, oh joe.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks are different, but normally you look at what the
Speaker 1: what did the player get that was drafted in the
Speaker 1: same slot in twenty twenty four, and normally he gets
Speaker 1: a ten percent raise. So let's just say, for the
Speaker 1: sake of argument, oh Joe, he got twenty million, Yes,
Speaker 1: ten percent, that's twenty two million. Okay, Now you work
Speaker 1: on you work on incentives and things like that. How
Speaker 1: much of the money is guaranteed because now you look
Speaker 1: at the top five, top six guys, their entire contracts
Speaker 1: are guaranteed. Yes, sir, the entire contracts is guaranteed. You
Speaker 1: get twenty five thirty million dollars signing bonus at the time,
Speaker 1: and then you know the rest of it. So if
Speaker 1: it's a forty three million dollars dollar contract, you get
Speaker 1: thirty million guaranteed. So you know you over the next
Speaker 1: four years, three four years, you gonna get thirteen million.
Speaker 1: But you got your money. So they pro rated over
Speaker 1: the length of the contract, the signing bonus. They sprayed
Speaker 1: it out and the Bengals doing this and I, oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: I get it. This is a mom and park shop.
Speaker 1: Their dad Paul Brown beefit to the son Mike Brown.
Speaker 1: But no, Joe, everybody got three hundred to three hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty five million dollars.
Speaker 2: That's before you sold.
Speaker 1: Anything, any tickets, that's any concession, any parking pass, local TV,
Speaker 1: local radio, local sponsorship. So you go the NFL cutting
Speaker 1: checks for between three hundred and three hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: million dollars before you do anything locally, Yes, sir, and
Speaker 1: you gonna try to hard time me tell me about
Speaker 1: you're gonna take some money back if I do something
Speaker 1: in year one and you're gonna take money from your two, three, four.
Speaker 2: Now, y'all gonna get the bleep out of here. Yeah, listen,
Speaker 2: this is unforst This Unforcenate. It is frustrating.
Speaker 4: It's frustrating for me obviously being being a huge, huge
Speaker 4: Bengal advocate noise riding for my team, the ups the downs,
Speaker 4: and and us already having issues on the defensive end
Speaker 4: and knowing that's what we need to focus all our
Speaker 4: attention on.
Speaker 2: And having a player that you draft so high and.
Speaker 4: And and and and having these issues and having them
Speaker 4: not be a part of you know, mandatory mini camp
Speaker 4: and him actually leaving and there's an opportunity and maybe
Speaker 4: a chance that he can opt out and go back
Speaker 4: into It's just it's a distraction.
Speaker 2: Is he interesting to see? Ojo? How have they done
Speaker 2: this with other contracts?
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I told you, I told you it was
Speaker 4: a hold up, you know, I mean a little little
Speaker 4: little birdie told me a birdie close enough that they
Speaker 4: had some wording and verbiage and chasing Ti Higgins contract
Speaker 4: that they held it up just a tad bit. Yeah
Speaker 4: you got old hell no, not no, not us. So
Speaker 4: so this was this was lingering a little bit. But
Speaker 4: because they are who they are, they were able to
Speaker 4: get that, you know what, ab out of there.
Speaker 2: So now we about a rookie who is yet to
Speaker 2: prove himself.
Speaker 4: You know, we got to that. They already been proven.
Speaker 4: So man, were not signing nothing until that's the out
Speaker 4: of there. So now in this case, they ride with it.
Speaker 4: They're trying to draw land in the sand. And so
Speaker 4: what that means if they start because Harry is the thing.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna let you start the president with me,
Speaker 4: because what you do if you put it now. So
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five they put this in his contract.
Speaker 1: Guess what all the rookies that signed with the Bengals
Speaker 1: moving forward is gonna have in their contract and language.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna start that precedent with me. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not happening.
Speaker 2: Now. It's unfortunate, man, it's very frustrating, very frustrating.
Speaker 1: Now, yo, oh, y'all, don't know if you noticed this
Speaker 1: today the new passes for the LA Chargers practice jerseys jerseys.
Speaker 2: We missed something.
Speaker 1: Oh, if a rookie do not sign their contract after
Speaker 1: being drafted, they can re enter the draft the following year.
Speaker 1: They can also choose to enter free agency and potentially
Speaker 1: sign with another team if the draft teams right them
Speaker 1: aren't traded. A player who doesn't sign can either choose
Speaker 1: to sit out a year or re enter the draft
Speaker 1: later so he can do leverage.
Speaker 2: You become a free agent, what would you do?
Speaker 1: I ain't said, not like the money, I gotta player.
Speaker 2: I can't go back to college.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no eligibility because if I could, I
Speaker 1: go back to college and get a nil deal. But
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm gonna be a free agent because I'm
Speaker 1: sure Cincinnati was not the only team that had him
Speaker 1: high on their draft board. Now, is it something like
Speaker 1: is it something like a what do they call it?
Speaker 1: I think they used to do where you should draft
Speaker 1: the guy in the summer. What did they call that draft?
Speaker 1: Supplemental draft? I don't think they have the supplemental draft anymore.
Speaker 1: But if you took somebody Bobby Humphrey got drafted into
Speaker 1: the supplemental Draft in nineteen eighty nine, they took Steve
Speaker 1: Atwater first, but they had a supplemental draft. Bobby Humphrey
Speaker 1: went number one in the supplemental draft, which means the
Speaker 1: following year the Broncos didn't have a first round draft pick.
Speaker 1: So that's how the supplemental draft worked. If you took somebody,
Speaker 1: whatever round you took him in that following year, you
Speaker 1: lost that round of a draft pick. So with Shamark,
Speaker 1: With Moore, I'm sure others had him as a top
Speaker 1: as the first had a first round grade on it.
Speaker 2: Hey, which I'll got for you. Boy.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not sitting out on Joe because,
Speaker 1: like I said, I want money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need that. I need that.
Speaker 4: If forget them, I mean the money part is obviously,
Speaker 4: but my childhood dream has finally come true. Yes, I
Speaker 4: would work all the obstacles. I overcame everything. I finally
Speaker 4: get drafted. Boom, Mama, I made it.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Now get here.
Speaker 4: That's another issue. That's another problem, something that I can't avoid.
Speaker 4: It's the business side of things. It's the ugly side
Speaker 4: of things.
Speaker 2: I hated.
Speaker 4: I know, young boy wanted to get out there and played. Yes,
Speaker 4: I understand if he sits out, I understand if he
Speaker 4: if he opts out to go back in the draft,
Speaker 4: I get it. I understand that he's frustrated. I'm sure
Speaker 4: his parents are frustrated. The agent probably frustrated and saw
Speaker 4: the fans.
Speaker 2: So listen.
Speaker 4: Joe'spocus piece, Joe's focus piece. But one thing about it.
Speaker 4: You know, if you if you know the Bangals, if
Speaker 4: you don't management, if you don't ownership, you're not finna
Speaker 4: bully them.
Speaker 2: You're not.
Speaker 4: You're not for to make them do nothing they don't
Speaker 4: want to do. You're not gonna set that president. And
Speaker 4: if you joke so.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know. But that's kind of why the Bengals
Speaker 1: have been in that situation. They wouldn't pay Boomer, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't pay a lot of their good players, and their
Speaker 1: good players left. That's kind of why they've been in
Speaker 1: the situation. Now you got an ideal situation. The last
Speaker 1: thing you want, O Joe, going into a season where
Speaker 1: you have so much hope and promise is distraction. Joe
Speaker 1: told you the Tray Hendrickson is a distraction because you're
Speaker 1: not asking how we're getting better, You're asking what should
Speaker 1: they do?
Speaker 2: I gotta keep asking this.
Speaker 1: Now I gotta ask answer another question about my first
Speaker 1: round draft pick and them not getting paid and them
Speaker 1: trying to set a president that no other team is setting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, distraction, But the Bengals don't see.
Speaker 1: But here that's the thing, though, o Jo, Because see,
Speaker 1: there's really no benefit other than your your ownership, wanting pride.
Speaker 2: That's the only benefit of winning.
Speaker 1: Because guess what, Ojo, whether you get whether you were
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia the Philadelphia Eagles got the same amount of money.
Speaker 2: Who was the worst, who picked first?
Speaker 1: Oh, Tennessee, they got the same rep new everybody got
Speaker 1: a check for three fifty.
Speaker 2: So tell me the incentive.
Speaker 1: See, we normally have an incentive because you prize money,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you with them, you get three million, you
Speaker 1: get second, you get two million, so forth to so on.
Speaker 1: But just imagine would that be any incentive to win
Speaker 1: other than your pride? If okay, first prize get five million,
Speaker 1: second prize get five million, third pride get five million,
Speaker 1: what incentive is that, o Joe. So the Bengals really
Speaker 1: don't have any incentive to do anything because guess what,
Speaker 1: the NFL is gonna cut them a check for three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million, just like they're gonna cut the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion or the last place team. And that's
Speaker 1: before they sell anything or they have any event in
Speaker 1: the stadium. Yeah, So that's that's that's that's why I
Speaker 1: mean it takes a special type. I mean some ownership. Clearly,
Speaker 1: Harry Roseman wants to win. Even though the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers haven't won. Hell, they go damn near all in
Speaker 1: every year. Stand Cronketty on the other rams, he wants
Speaker 1: to win. He damn near shoved kIPS in the militable
Speaker 1: all year. If you notice, it's only the Bengals that
Speaker 1: do things like this, the high go and try to
Speaker 1: penny pinch bro. You getting a check for three point
Speaker 1: fifty three hundred and fifty billion, know, Joe.
Speaker 2: Damn hey listens, Well, it's frustrating.
Speaker 1: Why it's very frustrated because, like you said, the last
Speaker 1: thing that you want to have happened, oh Joe, is
Speaker 1: to happen.
Speaker 2: Why are we still.
Speaker 1: Talking about a rookie a butt not signed, and here
Speaker 1: we are we damn it, We're damned it.
Speaker 2: In July, we're going We're going, Hey, we're going to
Speaker 2: training camp. In a month.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, who's training camp in the month? And you
Speaker 1: and I got to deal with this bull jive.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: New patches for the LA Chargers practice Jersey show both
Speaker 1: personal and team achievement on East Jersey. This is the
Speaker 1: first form of professional This is the first form a
Speaker 1: professional football team. Oh Joe, you like this? So, okay,
Speaker 1: got captain. I can't read this.
Speaker 2: So what was that the water bottles? Okay? Yeah, so
Speaker 2: he got like, you got a captain, so you got
Speaker 2: the captains.
Speaker 1: So you got a captain, and then you got a
Speaker 1: start for one year, two year, three on, and you
Speaker 1: got Pro Bowl, you got all Pro. If you got
Speaker 1: the franchise record most passing yards of the season, okay,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you had the record for the most receiving yard,
Speaker 1: you would have a patch, now, I mean that would
Speaker 1: be you know what, it's kind of like, I guess
Speaker 1: look like NASCAR because you don't get that.
Speaker 2: I mean this this is strict, stricty for practice, right,
Speaker 2: strict from practic yah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: You could put a patt.
Speaker 1: You could put your patch on there if you have
Speaker 1: a sponsor, but they NFLF it let you put all
Speaker 1: those patches on it.
Speaker 4: Not without them monetizing and making some money off up
Speaker 4: and that ain't happening.
Speaker 2: But listen, not I think it's dope. Is It's not
Speaker 2: like it I do.
Speaker 4: It's no different than college you know, Ohio State buck guys.
Speaker 2: I think for sho you know, they get the they
Speaker 2: get the Tomahawks, and I think you remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hear the declay, you get a you got
Speaker 1: a big going touchdown and you.
Speaker 2: Know, hey, you know I get I need to bring
Speaker 2: my hell be could I had on the days?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yo is filled up? Oh yeah yeah field up. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We have sculled the cross bowls right right, right right,
Speaker 2: we have called the crawl Bowls. Don't joke, Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I mean I think it's dope. It's cool and cool.
Speaker 4: I mean this is I don't think you really did
Speaker 4: centivize NFL players and reminding them, you know, their accolades
Speaker 4: and what they've done, what they've done today.
Speaker 2: But if they.
Speaker 4: Still having it on the jersey and patches in some
Speaker 4: type of motivating, motivating tactic, I guess it's cool.
Speaker 1: Think about what what you would do when coach said
Speaker 1: he we win this game.
Speaker 2: We ain't got to come in till Wednesday. Boy, I
Speaker 2: don't care. Yeah, let me get money to Monday and
Speaker 2: Monday and Tuesday off.
Speaker 1: Many was gone, hey hey man, especially if you home,
Speaker 1: thank gods, trying to catch them fight out Sunday night.
Speaker 2: To go somewhere out of there, right out of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, all right, hey, have a good practice. We
Speaker 1: off tomorrow. I'm like, really, do really, y'all gonna do this?
Speaker 1: So y'all so in other words, y'all been bullgiving the
Speaker 1: other practice. But it's it's it's little things like that, Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a we'll have a cookout. Because we
Speaker 1: always did faith offense against the defense. It was always competition,
Speaker 1: whether we bowl, we we you know, we got divided
Speaker 1: up teams and shot and it was always off. We
Speaker 1: always compete against each other, right right right, And.
Speaker 2: So I get it. But I like that. I do
Speaker 2: like that old Joe. I like that. I like it.
Speaker 2: There's dope, dope, it's dope something new. Yeah, it's kind
Speaker 2: of like the All Star.
Speaker 1: You know, all Star in basketball, they started putting your
Speaker 1: accompliment four time league MVP Finals, m VP. How many
Speaker 1: All Star teams you made? How many All the NBA
Speaker 1: teams you made. So I like it. Uh, you think
Speaker 1: other team's gonna adopt this? On Joe, I think they will.
Speaker 2: I mean I think they will. It all depends and
Speaker 2: you think about it.
Speaker 4: When you look at the landscape of the NFL, you
Speaker 4: know it's only maybe three or four three or four
Speaker 4: players that's gonna have patches on their stuff now because they.
Speaker 1: Did it with the Walter Payton You remember, all Joe,
Speaker 1: if you wanted to Walter Payton the War they put
Speaker 1: that up, they put that d.
Speaker 4: Yes, I do I do remember that. I do remember
Speaker 4: that absolutely. But I think I think, I think other
Speaker 4: teams may adopt it. You know, some some teams might
Speaker 4: not really care for it or or or want to
Speaker 4: go to that extent of adding patches of accolades and
Speaker 4: what people have done.
Speaker 1: They do that hold on, they do that at this
Speaker 1: at the super Bowl now, you know how the guys
Speaker 1: come out there in the tracks, who's on Tuesday and
Speaker 1: for the thing that you see the MVPs and stuffy
Speaker 1: super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I like I like this. I like this.
Speaker 2: I can get behind it. It might be something new,
Speaker 2: might be.
Speaker 1: Some Joe left tackle Trent Williams fins. His goal is
Speaker 1: to play into his forties. He turns thirty seven in July.
Speaker 1: It's one of them things that were I'm going to
Speaker 1: do everything possible to play as long as I can
Speaker 1: and to put a good product on the foot on
Speaker 1: foot of football out there, and then when it's going
Speaker 1: my way, then I'll know. But I could play until
Speaker 1: I'm forty one, who knows. But that's a goal of mine.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not going to retire with some left in
Speaker 1: the tank. So in other words, he said, that would
Speaker 1: the wheels fall off, he called rolls side of the
Speaker 1: system to drag my masks off the field. But until
Speaker 1: the I play it, that's it.
Speaker 4: And one thing about it, someone like Trent, someone of
Speaker 4: Trent Williams caliber, as good as he is, can play
Speaker 4: well into his forty as long as stay healthy.
Speaker 2: Yep, long stay healthy. That that's that's all Ago, That
Speaker 2: that's all it comes down to. And he asked it.
Speaker 4: Obviously, the older you get, the more technically sound you
Speaker 4: gotta be. The older you look, the more technically sound
Speaker 4: you gotta because them young bulls, you know, the coming
Speaker 4: that edge, Yojo, Well they are coming as great as
Speaker 4: he is. They got to make sure that kicks still right. Now,
Speaker 4: you got better better ankle down. So the thing is now, Ojo.
Speaker 1: Guys do a better job of taking care of themselves,
Speaker 1: regardless of position, and even though they might not have
Speaker 1: the most aesthetic bodies, guys take better care of themselves, right,
Speaker 1: Guys take better care of them.
Speaker 2: So they just do.
Speaker 1: Because I got into the league, guys were still smoking cigarettes.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna call them. Name what guy was still
Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes? Hey, we get a break. God going to
Speaker 1: the car. They standing outside they car, they smoke it.
Speaker 1: Like I tell you, the funny thing I see. I
Speaker 1: saw Greg Towns and that the Raiders. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: walking in the first game of the season, we played
Speaker 1: on the road at the Old Coliseum. Man, I get
Speaker 1: I was walking out and walk into the locker room.
Speaker 1: By the time I get there, he's sitting outside on
Speaker 1: his helmet smoking.
Speaker 2: I believe I can't believe it on Joe, did I
Speaker 2: know guys? Yes, we had very prominent guys on our
Speaker 2: on our team that smoke. But yeah, the game.
Speaker 4: You know that classic picture of Lynn Dawson, Yes, that's
Speaker 4: that's exactly how town was sitting on his helmet smoking
Speaker 4: a cigarette.
Speaker 1: But you remember that picture that I think that picture
Speaker 1: has been black and white. Yeah, I saw it was
Speaker 1: my own color eyes. Hey, that's funny, man.
Speaker 2: It was wild back then. Like some of the stuff.
Speaker 2: I didn't heard the story. Boy, you ain't got to
Speaker 2: tell me. Listen, listen.
Speaker 4: I just said that twin piece for LT and I
Speaker 4: didn't got them got some good stories.
Speaker 2: I don't got some. I don't mean to be disrespectful.
Speaker 4: Right, but when you played football, when you used to
Speaker 4: fly airlines domessic, was that during the time they could
Speaker 4: smoke cigarettes on the plane when you got Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you used to be a smoking restaurants. You got
Speaker 1: a smoking section of a non smoking section. It's like
Speaker 1: would you like to sit and smoking a non and
Speaker 1: a lot of people like, well, what's first available? But
Speaker 1: but if you if you at a restaurant, what's about throwing?
Speaker 1: You might be back to back, but in a smoking section?
Speaker 2: Do damn? I want you know what history? Or is
Speaker 2: your pizzaself? Right? No? I don't think that was coming
Speaker 2: back on your Hell no, not smoking? And do now?
Speaker 1: Now you go to the casino, oh yeah, the club?
Speaker 1: You know anything they smoking cigarettes, se ridge weed, all
Speaker 1: of the club. That's what That's what really stopped me
Speaker 1: from going to the club. Bout yo whine may all
Speaker 1: that smoke. Man, you gotta hange. You gotta hang your
Speaker 1: shirt up in the shot out with stuff. Okay, I
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't know that would be turn you
Speaker 2: from going to the club.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't smoked from going to the club. I
Speaker 1: don't like Oh cha, I can't stay. I ain't no,
Speaker 1: I ain't no late. I'm a I'm an early Roger,
Speaker 1: so I need to be in.
Speaker 2: Don't forget it now, your boy, here's an early riser too.
Speaker 4: Now, I understand. I understand what you gotta say. I
Speaker 4: take a nap during the day if I know I'm
Speaker 4: gonna want to do something.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But when I went to Area twenty nine, yeah
Speaker 2: you had to do I had to do the show man.
Speaker 2: I slept for five hours.
Speaker 4: During the day. I get, yes, I can't hey when
Speaker 4: I go to Tutsi's. When I go to Tutsi's, you know,
Speaker 4: I gotta get me seafood, rice and lot to tail.
Speaker 4: I take a nap during the day. And the fact
Speaker 4: that I only go places where I can smoke my cigar.
Speaker 4: If I can't smoke a cigar, I'm not coming. I'm
Speaker 4: not coming, Like, don't even in fight me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not like I said I but I
Speaker 1: really never like I'm not. I'm not really a go
Speaker 1: out type of person. I like to go out for it.
Speaker 1: And I ain't really trying to. I ain't trying to
Speaker 1: close the club.
Speaker 2: Down, right, right, right?
Speaker 1: A last call for alcohol, last call last. I ain't
Speaker 1: trying to be there, right, I ain't trying to. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you're still sitting on the stool and the man trying
Speaker 1: to move the stool out the way and try to
Speaker 1: clean up, and you're still there, broke, take.
Speaker 2: Your Hey, hey, the lights come on?
Speaker 4: I am and I heard some funny stories, like women
Speaker 4: look different, women look different than you know. You get
Speaker 4: a couple of drinks, so you know some people that's
Speaker 4: really not attractive, they look a little different. You get
Speaker 4: a few drinks in you they hit them blight song
Speaker 4: and you get to see what it looks like.
Speaker 2: And then you know what happened. What happened when you
Speaker 2: ain't got no alcohol in your sister? Hey, wait, something
Speaker 2: my homeboys say when the lights come on? That's the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. You better get what you can. You better
Speaker 2: get what you can.
Speaker 1: Nah, I done lost this when I take my chance
Speaker 1: at this time