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Speaker 1: Delaware State, mister DeShawn Jackson D Jack for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Let's get right into it, bro head Coach Delaware State.

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Speaker 1: If somebody said, okay, give I'm gonna give you a

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Speaker 1: list of players former NFL players that were that were

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Speaker 1: all decades, players that were Pro Bowl players, all pro players.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a list of ten guys. Name

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Speaker 1: the guy that you think was most likely to become

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Speaker 1: a head coach on any level. D Jack, I can

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Speaker 1: honestly say I wouldn't. I wouldn't have put you at

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Speaker 1: the top of the list, D Jack. What made you

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Speaker 1: decide to become a head coach? I was gonna say, Dan,

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Speaker 1: you wasn't. Wouldn't have put me up there? Man, damn

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Speaker 1: not No, not, not at the top of the list.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, I mean honestly for me, uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to present itself, Pabas. I retired in twenty

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Speaker 3: So for me, I sat around for a whole year,

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Speaker 3: didn't contemplate on that, and I was like, you know

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Speaker 3: what I deserve, after all the fuse of these layers,

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Speaker 3: all the hard work I put into it, I deserve

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Speaker 3: to sit around for a whole year and I do nothing.

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Speaker 2: I woke up at two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: If I wanted to took the kids to school, I partied,

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Speaker 3: I hung out, I did just regular things that I

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Speaker 3: So after that year, I was like, you know, I

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Speaker 3: it was just like I really didn't know where's ready

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Speaker 4: Has it been has it been a difference, I know,

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Speaker 4: Has it been difficult you know, coaching at the Collesiic

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Speaker 3: As far as me, honestly me, I never like I

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Speaker 2: You know, I played obviously in college. I was never

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Speaker 3: So unk you kind of are right. But at the

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Speaker 3: I remember when I was in heighol, I mean college

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Speaker 2: I knew how much time my college coaches and my.

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Speaker 3: always when it came down to football, I'm very football smart.

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Speaker 2: I just think from like the.

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Speaker 3: Compliance, the admissions, like getting kids in the school. You know,

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Speaker 3: in the NFL, you ain't got to worry about school.

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Speaker 3: We going out there and playing. We ain't got to

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Speaker 3: doing what they supposed to do? Because you know so

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Speaker 3: I was far removed from that side of it. So

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Speaker 3: now being in his position, it's like, I gotta be

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Speaker 1: DJ when you look at it, you know, talking to

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Speaker 1: or be a basketball player, football player, baseball. For me,

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Speaker 1: I think the hardest thing to do is because you

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Speaker 2: You were very, very elusive.

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Speaker 1: And the thing when I talked to Coach Prime, He's like,

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Speaker 1: the coach are player and not say well Son, you.

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Speaker 2: Should have picked that up. That's easy. How do you

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Speaker 1: Like, make sure you you understand that they're not DeShawn

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Speaker 1: Jackson they're who they are, and you are who you are.

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Speaker 2: Honestly that the hardest challenge has been.

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Speaker 3: You know, over my career, the accolades, the stats, the

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Speaker 2: Been at my craft.

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Speaker 3: So for me being in this position now, the things

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Speaker 2: Took the short cut out.

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Speaker 3: I'm not allowing my players to miss that because I

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Speaker 3: think the toughest thing is has been for me. It's like, damn,

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Speaker 3: I I played at this high level. I took I

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Speaker 3: was crazy is I see my players doing things I

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Speaker 2: But I'm in the here go me ten twenty years ago,

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Speaker 2: I was the one bid that stuff they doing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ain't the funny thing about it, But I think

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Speaker 4: about it, you know, being a competitor, Jack you and

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Speaker 2: You just retired in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: You're able to put cleets on, lace them up and

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Speaker 4: get out there and play. How are you able to

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Speaker 4: control yourself because I ain't played in a minute and

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Speaker 2: Environment like that?

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Speaker 4: My crazy ass on having a pair of cleet trying

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Speaker 4: as opposed to being a being a teacher and being

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Speaker 4: a coach like you are. Do you ever get antsy

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Speaker 4: and want to put your cleatson sometimes and show players

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Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I like, honestly, man, I'm thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 3: Anywhere from nineteen to twenty four, twenty five years old.

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Speaker 3: So in this role right now, man like I still train,

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Speaker 3: i still work out, I'll still run. Like I'm telling

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Speaker 3: gonna strapping up with you in a Reil one hundred

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Speaker 3: and I'm out there random with them. I may i

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Speaker 3: so so for me that's been the challenge man, because

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Speaker 3: cone drills, we run through it, and I gotta show

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Speaker 3: these dudes to some of these dudes taking five six

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Speaker 2: But some of these dudes is you know what I'm

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Speaker 2: saying it's crazy. The other thing, when I got.

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Speaker 3: Here some of these dudes, and know this respect to

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Speaker 3: the coaches before, but I'm like, bro, how did some

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Speaker 3: of y'all get scholarship to a Division one school?

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Speaker 2: Bro? Who gave y'all scholarships?

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Speaker 3: So like, for me, it's just like I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: You're trying to put my eye on it. And I

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Speaker 3: know for us to win right now, it's not a

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Speaker 3: reblooding process. We got to win right now, and I

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Speaker 3: But I mean, honestly, man, what I felt like when

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Speaker 2: To Donovan nav Nick Foles. I mean, I played with

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Speaker 3: But I think that phil that Philly break up man

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Speaker 1: What would what was the what was the environment? Like

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I was there when Rodney Cooper said the

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Speaker 1: I had Mike to get up in front of them

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Speaker 1: Hey, I gotta see some things before I started accepting

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Speaker 2: Shoot, well, I ain't even heard him say that.

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Speaker 3: Just I'll go back before the Rodney Cooper, Uh you

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Speaker 2: He started like we did. He was not starting like

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Speaker 2: Have to earn your position. You feel me? Bro Buddy

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Speaker 3: He He lost his bre like day won, Buddy lost

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Speaker 3: I just think he got into a situation intoxicated. Somebody

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Speaker 3: It did come out, and how red came out, he

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Speaker 3: He said twenty plus I mean, so hey, hey, d Jake,

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Speaker 3: Because I'm gonna be real with you, uncontrolled. Like I

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Speaker 3: So it's really like when you're enjoying something in you

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Speaker 4: get that call from Howie or Jeff and they'd be like, man, listen,

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00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,240
Speaker 4: you want you to come on down here to Philly

436
00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,720
Speaker 4: and be the receiver's coach, and then you go to

437
00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,400
Speaker 4: receive the coach at Philly though hopefully maybe one day.

438
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,240
Speaker 2: Something that doesn't doesn't happen.

439
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,240
Speaker 4: Often is here you have a player that actually gets

440
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,000
Speaker 4: in the position to be a head coach.

441
00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,120
Speaker 2: Can you imagine you'd be crazy being the head coach

442
00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:49,280
Speaker 2: of the Philadelphia down Man, who you telling? I'm manifesting

443
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,080
Speaker 2: it for you? Sure?

444
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,720
Speaker 3: I mean my boy at man Tonyo Pearce Man is

445
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,440
Speaker 3: somebody that I got a great relationship. Obviously I'll see

446
00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,400
Speaker 3: his his uh you know, his his path and where

447
00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,520
Speaker 3: he did, you know, obviously starting their law. He's probably

448
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,480
Speaker 3: where I went with my alma mater. Obviously one of

449
00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 3: the best high schools and all of all of America.

450
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,200
Speaker 3: We put the most you know, players in the NFL

451
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,919
Speaker 3: for my high Jack Rabbits. We feel me them Jack crabits.

452
00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 3: You already know about it. You feel what I'm saying. So

453
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 3: I mean I saw ap I see him go to Arizona.

454
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 3: Obviously he did a sting Arizona State, and then you know,

455
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,680
Speaker 3: obviously he was in it for the Raiders and he

456
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 3: got the head coaching job. And I still feel like

457
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 3: he got up out of their way sooner than he

458
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 3: should have. But you know, we ain't gonna talk about that.

459
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know, if it presents itself, man,

460
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 3: and that happens, man, God, you know, all all glory,

461
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 3: all power to God. But you know, for me, I'm

462
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 3: gonna take it one step at a time. Like like

463
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 3: you said, I'm for show gonna have a success here

464
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 3: because I just, like you say, everything we touch his gold.

465
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

466
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,439
Speaker 3: And you know already, man, we've been doing some crazy

467
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 3: things like I ain't never been this much attention on

468
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 3: Delaware State. The minute I was signed as a head coach.

469
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 3: I mean, we got ours turning. We got players that

470
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 3: never would ever consider us. They come and they lock

471
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 3: it in, locking in with us, we out beeat Marriland Temple,

472
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 3: some big time NBS schools, and we got some good

473
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 3: talent coming here. So all I all, I asked some

474
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 3: little ready big res man just come support me, come

475
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 3: to a game, you know, like you know, because everybody

476
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,160
Speaker 3: was on the sideline, would be on the Colorado.

477
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need down in Delaware.

478
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to definitely try to get down there.

479
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, D Jack, You've had some

480
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 1: great plays. You had the punt returnment punt return in

481
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: the meddle Land as time expired, you ran it back.

482
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 1: You had the Monday night throw from Big that probably

483
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 1: the ball up like you traveled seventy.

484
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 2: Yards in the air.

485
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 1: Sure, when you span back of your career, give me

486
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:33,959
Speaker 1: a couple of plays.

487
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 2: What plays that still.

488
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: Stand out when you be thinking about it, you're riding

489
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 1: in your car or you're sitting in your off You're like, damn,

490
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: yeah that was a hell of a play.

491
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: What plays pop up in D Jack's mind? Man?

492
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,959
Speaker 3: I got three specific players, obvious. See people always ask

493
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 3: me like, what's my favorite player all time? And that's

494
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 3: hard because I got so many great plays. But I

495
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 3: got three plays, and I ain't gonna put no particular order,

496
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 3: but I'm I'm gonna go.

497
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.

498
00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 3: One was I can't remember what what what today was,

499
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 3: but it was Dallas.

500
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 2: We was playing Dallas Cowboys. Mike Mike Vic threw me

501
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 2: a like an eight yard hitch. I caught it. Oh yeah,

502
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: you went all the way. He fell in the end

503
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: zone backs nine ninety one yards. R Terryce Norman was

504
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: chasing me down.

505
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 3: I fell in on him down there, wanting to do

506
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: the Marshall Lynch when the whole you know, you old,

507
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So that that was one

508
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 3: play Orlando Kendrick down that blew out all his Hams

509
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: Street trying to come get me, and I'm just jogging.

510
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hurt ankle. I heard my ankle earlier in

511
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 3: that game. I'm just I ain't gonna say I'm jogging,

512
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 3: but I'm ready. And I see him coming on like

513
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 3: this dude that to.

514
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: Catch my hogh step on him fall back in the

515
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: end zone.

516
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 3: The second one the Monday Night first played the game

517
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 3: where Lawron Landry was talking all that smack before the game,

518
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 3: trying to put his hand.

519
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: On the shoulder. I'm like, hey, home, me don't touch me.

520
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 3: And for those of y'all who don't know, he said

521
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 3: some crazy things to me and he took me off.

522
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 3: He said, boy, I'm gonna kill you on this field.

523
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 3: I said, damn me tell you that person. Are you

524
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 3: trying to kill me?

525
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 2: I would say.

526
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: The second was that the past from vic he threw

527
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 3: about seventy yards and the last but not least as

528
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 3: the pump return, you know, versus versus when I dropped it.

529
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 3: I tell everybody I dropped it on purpose, set it

530
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 3: up so everybody could get out their lanes, and then

531
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: when I looked up, I hit that thing and it

532
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 3: was nothing but success.

533
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: After that, boy Jason brom that defeated block.

534
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Speaker 1: Hey, you do realize, Djack, you started something. It was

535
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 1: you on that Monday night game that dropped that ball

536
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: at the DAYN one yard line against the Cowboys.

537
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: You started that bull dyp d Jack. You know that, right? Hey, man,

538
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 2: you know what I said about that man. You know

539
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 2: I was a bonehead.

540
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 3: I was young and I was a rookie, and it's crazy.

541
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 3: I did the same thing when I in the high

542
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: schooled American game, when I I tried dead. It's no

543
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 3: So you know who really started. Reggie Bush started. It's

544
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 3: his fun because they was playing UCLA. USC was playing

545
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 3: Ucla in the Rose Bowl and this sucker jumped from

546
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 3: the five yard line and Kurk wored into the end zone.

547
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 3: So when I got a chance in the Army game,

548
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: I said, I'm gonna jump from the six. Why jumped

549
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,959
Speaker 3: from the I jumped from the city. Why got up

550
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 3: in the here? I said, Oh, I dropped that ball earlier.

551
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 4: I said, I can't do that one. Yeah, it's just

552
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 4: so funny. It's so funny too. They miss it a

553
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 4: jack when we was playing when we played Notre Dame

554
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 4: in the Fiesta Bowl.

555
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think when they the dB.

556
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: Tried to jump the out roude it was it was

557
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 4: out route and the dB he jumped a little too early.

558
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 4: So I'm going down the sideline against Notre Dame.

559
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: In the Fiesta Bowl. Hell, I dropped the god.

560
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 4: Damn ball, and damned it looked like back at the two,

561
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: but the listen, the rest was so far behind.

562
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: They could they couldn't even see it. Damn. So you

563
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 2: got away from what you tell them?

564
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got yeah, got away with one. Luck would

565
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 4: have been the first ball that way back in two thousand, you.

566
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: Would have been a thirty You know what I'm looking

567
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: at this schedule. You guys you played, you played mic

568
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: in Norfolk State in October thirties.

569
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: Play at the link. Oh, I got that. I got

570
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: that done. The Jack got to Jack got that done.

571
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That was first avers B Jacks.

572
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: First ever.

573
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: The h b c U is playing in the NFL

574
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: stadium regular season now now bold game we play in

575
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: Atlanta Stadium, but first time ever in the regular season

576
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: game is being played in the NFL stadium.

577
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

578
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man, That is that is amazing, man, d

579
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: Jack Man, That's unbelieved.

580
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: Man.

581
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: Congratulations on the job. Man.

582
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna do great You gotta you surrounded

583
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: yourself with great coaches. You're gonna inspire these young men

584
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: to do great things, not only in football but in life.

585
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: You're gonna you.

586
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: Know you you you you you your task on a

587
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: huge responsibility, Jack, because these guys look at you and

588
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: they want to get the word you got, sir. And

589
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: even if they don't get there, if they become successful husbands,

590
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: if they become successful businessman, they become successful brothers. That's

591
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: all we can ask. That's all we can ask a

592
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: great man, great young men.

593
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 2: A serve man.

594
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing I'm preaching to these dudes

595
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: because you know, we all know it's only a small

596
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: few that's gonna get selected to very small ill So

597
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: I tell my players all the time, man, hey walk

598
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: across that stage.

599
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: They can't never take that favor away from you. Know

600
00:24:59,400 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

601
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 3: No, you know, my life in general, being a husband,

602
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 3: being a brother, being a son, being a father man.

603
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: Like everything I'm teaching these young man is prenciples that

604
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: they could take for the rest of their life and

605
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 3: help room them into being great young I mean, great

606
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: man in the world in general.

607
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: You wanna that's it, d Jack. I appreciate it. Man.

608
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to catch a game. I'm gonna try

609
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: to catch y'all. I might try to catch that League game.

610
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: I don't know about that Delaware.

611
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

612
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna make it all the

613
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 1: way to Delaware, but I might be. I might be

614
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: able to.

615
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: Keep it.

616
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: Oh all right, d Jack, we want to keep it

617
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: for one more topic, o Jo, this is yours.

618
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: Uh. We gotta let Ocho have his moment. O Jo

619
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: said he want his moment.

620
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: Cam fired some shots at o Jo in his sixty

621
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: second job. Let's take a listen to what Cam had

622
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: to say.

623
00:25:50,040 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: Press pause, press pause. Who gives chad Ocho Cinco the

624
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 2: right to give Madden rankings? He's been doing it for

625
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: years now. I know he's not good at Madden. Okay,

626
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: here we go? Is this one? Has anybody seen Chad

627
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: O too Sinko play Madden? I know he's an avid gamer.

628
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: I know he plays soccer. I don't get up a man.

629
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: Listen, man, he plays man.

630
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen Chad O Sinko play. So is this?

631
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: Is this all?

632
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: Don't want to be one who like I don't even

633
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: want to play it? Who's played like Bro? I'm a

634
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: big browser. You know what I'm saying. Shout out to Mario.

635
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: See that. Folks say it like Bro? You just can't

636
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: start and just play me. No, I'm looking down at y'all, suckers.

637
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: I'm looking down. You don't just get the right to

638
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 2: play the great one? Are you serious? Do you know

639
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: what these thumbs will do? Go to thumb production? Holden

640
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: thumb production? Are you serious? I've never seen Chad play.

641
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: He's not in the field for real, He's not. He's

642
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 2: just that analytical guy. So I feel highly disrespected that

643
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: Eya hasn't reached out to me to really give ratings, because.

644
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: You're in the field for real, for real, okay, for real,

645
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: and we're talking and and trust and.

646
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: Believe where we can put whatever on it.

647
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: Oh y'all where you're at bro pick up the phone, baby, heys.

648
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 4: But that ain't nothing but nonsense, man, hein' somebody in

649
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 4: the field. So basically, based on his logic, I can't

650
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 4: get rating because I'm not good at Madden. So let's

651
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 4: say I'm great at football in general.

652
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: When I played it.

653
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: Got here one of the best all time. That's what

654
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: that for gives me the credibility to give ratings. Now,

655
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 4: I don't know nothing about Cam Newton in no field

656
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 4: when it comes no stick work. I've been gaming since

657
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty four. I've been gating eighty four and this

658
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 4: stick work is the kind of stick work that Cam

659
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 4: don't do. I ain't know he was a gamer. I

660
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 4: don't even know he played Madden. I didn't know, so obviously,

661
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 4: is whoever he think he is on the game. I

662
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: don't know about it. I never seen him at a competition,

663
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: and you know by everybody. Yeah, everybody know I play

664
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 4: the game. Everybody know I do that. See Cam, This,

665
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 4: this is just the thing with Cam Newton. You see

666
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 4: Cam Newton plays Madden recreational. He plays games in general

667
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 4: for recreational purposes, like our game is the way of

668
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 4: life to pay my fucking bills.

669
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: See that's the picture. Yeah, yeah, I'm different.

670
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 4: I'most some other shit. But if he want to play,

671
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 4: and we could put whatever on it. He talking spicy,

672
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: we can put whatever you're talking about on it. Okay,

673
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 4: that's what's up.

674
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: And make it light on yourself. Cam. You're looking at

675
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: each type of problem that Cam don't want.

676
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: No smoke, man, Hey, Cam can't beat me, and nothing

677
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: matter of fact about if I was the back up

678
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: in Carolina, I would have took the motherfucking job.

679
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: You didn't know.

680
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: If you didn't know Cam was a gamer, you didn't

681
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: know Cam was good at Madden or other video games.

682
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: I don't know about it. Cam ain't good at You

683
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: know who good at Madden?

684
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 4: You know who I know about I know about Dead Bryant,

685
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 4: I know is good at Madden. I know that you

686
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: know his his his prowess on the game. And listen,

687
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 4: I've heard about it.

688
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: So I ain't hurt nothing about Cambod.

689
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: Brian know how to play cause I remember Cam was

690
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: challenging Lebron because I got thank Lebron's having like a

691
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: top thousand or top five hundred, top something ranking.

692
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: So I guess you get raped. I don't know.

693
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: Listen, now you talk about somebody don't know this issue

694
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: about Madden. But I guess you get. You get ranked,

695
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: you get I mean, you play long enough and you

696
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 1: get good, you get ranked, don't you Is that how

697
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: it works?

698
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, I don't know. Man, the man, listen the man.

699
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 4: He he talking spicy right. He could have picked up

700
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 4: the phone to call me. He got my number, he

701
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 4: could have picked up. Matter of FACT'M from the blocking.

702
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 4: Now your block them? Now you like you coming out?

703
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: You coming at a true game?

704
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: You know this? Really? Do you do it for fun?

705
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: I do it as a way of life. We we

706
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: we different. We ain't even the same lane. When we

707
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: talked about gaming, man, did jack you game?

708
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: I messed around a little bit, but I heard Cam

709
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 3: Newton like that. Though I ain't gonna lie see you

710
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: know who. I really don't like that though, Durham James

711
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: like that too.

712
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, derk okay, doubt that's another one. Irwin is Duram

713
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: is that boy on them sticks? Man, I ain't heard nothing.

714
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: I know.

715
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: Cam being like that on those sticks, man, can't can't,

716
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: can't can just probably make you want to rate he

717
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: want to rank them dudes. Man, just really coming at.

718
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: You, man, God dang listen, listen, listen, Cam, if you

719
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: you want to come over there with he with me

720
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 4: and holler, boy, man, I got it, I got it, I.

721
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: Got got you. Cam, come on over that baby.

722
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: May y'all be hey, y'all be taking that stuff serious

723
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: for real though, huk and listen, Hey that's serious, hey Jack, Jack,

724
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: all my relationships ended behind gaming, man, for real.

725
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: I can see that. Hey, I'm serious. I'm telling you.

726
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: At the time you on here, okay, you get off

727
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: the game and get ready to get suited up exactly.

728
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: Listen one thing about it. Check you got understand, Jack,

729
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: You gotta understand. Listen.

730
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 4: Gaming is forever talk really temporary. Listen, Hey, your game

731
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: ain't gonna never wake up one morning and be like

732
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: you know what you're tripping.

733
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to do this no more. The

734
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: game would never do that.

735
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: Ain't always be the same every time, and it always

736
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: bring out this happy side of you.

737
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: Always bring out the satic side of you, no matter what.

738
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

739
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: Me watching boy, you got the right one? Boy playing

740
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: with me? Man, stop playing on my top.

741
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: Man, you know what I think. I'm gonna start playing.

742
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: I won't get good to beat the brakes off you,

743
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: O Joe. I get my fifty in our hunter back

744
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: like that, then forget.

745
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: I told them I'm gonna give you money. Man, I'm

746
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: gonna give you money. I can't you.

747
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, I will. I'm gonna you know what I'm

748
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna start gaming. I'm gonna get good,

749
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stream live when I beat you, like

750
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: forty two to sevens.

751
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna kid forty two to seven and what madden you?

752
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: You can't even come on now? You can't, I am

753
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: it's too soon. I ain't never played before, but I

754
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: would get good. I'm gonna get good. You don't know

755
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: how to work technology, so you definitely can I do

756
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: voice command? Can I do voice command? Nat? Ain't no

757
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: voice can We're not that, We're not that far advanced yet.

758
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: I would go. I would go talk to zucker Bird.

759
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: I said, look here, man, you got this AI, this metal.

760
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: I want to be able to do my gaming. I

761
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: want to be able to talk to it. I would.

762
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: I would get good at Joe.

763
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: No, I'm not because I don't have I don't have

764
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: that kind of time. Yeah, you don't have that kind

765
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: of time. Hey, let me ask you. Let me let

766
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: me ask you about another thing, d Jack.

767
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 1: The Steelers run random ball the fourth most last year,

768
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: while Aaron Rodgers attempted the second most passes, and Arthur

769
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: Smith spoke about marrying the run a heavy offense the

770
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: lither past happy quarterback. We didn't bring Aaron here to

771
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: sign DK for all that money to go run the wishbone,

772
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: d Jack. Now that they have you, look, the Steelers

773
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: have always had a defense that could get after the quarterback.

774
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

775
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: They kind of slacked off a little bit of that

776
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: when they had Ben and ab And and Le'Veon. They

777
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: were more of a pass happy offense and a defense

778
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: kind of struggle.

779
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: Seemingly, they gotten back.

780
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: They got TJ Now and they got high Smith, and

781
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: they got Menka, and they got Porter Junior on one side,

782
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: so they got a really nice camp Heyworth they got him,

783
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: so they got really a really nice defense. Now they

784
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: got Aaron Rodgers. They signed DK solid offensive line. I

785
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: don't think it's great, but it's okay. Friar mooth. They

786
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: got Calvin Austin the third. They got some decent receivers.

787
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: What is your expectation of the Steelers this year?

788
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: What? What?

789
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: What's the ceiling for the Steelers? Can they win the division?

790
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: Can they make a deep run in the playoffs? Can

791
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: they get to the super Bowl?

792
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Aaron Rodgers in my eyes, man.

793
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: He's I'll put him as a top ten fifteen quarterback

794
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: of all time in my in my books. So I

795
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: think I think he's a guy all the seed coming

796
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: off the injury last year, what was that the year before?

797
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: Whenever they heck the end before was the year before? Right?

798
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: And then obviously last year really didn't have a success

799
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: we thought he would have.

800
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be tough.

801
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: Like you said, the offensive line is really not the

802
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 3: strength of that team, you know what I'm saying. And

803
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: obvious see Aaron Rodgers, he's older now, what is he

804
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 3: thirty nine forty? He's forty years old started the season.

805
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

806
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: So I think obviously he can't be touched. He's not

807
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 3: the younger a right, he can't move like he used

808
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: to move. So I just don't see why would you

809
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: go get rid of uh what's what's my pills?

810
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: Receive?

811
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: Now?

812
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: The receiver? Oh you're talking about uh George pick Is.

813
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't understand why get rid of George pack

814
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: Is if you had any hopes that you was gonna

815
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 3: sign the Aaron Rodgers.

816
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: So for me, I know you got DK Metcalf over there.

817
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: I just don't honestly, I'm gonna be really so, I

818
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: don't see them winning this division right now now with

819
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: my boy L Jack now with my twin L Jack

820
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: over there in Baltimore.

821
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: And I ain't gonna lie, man.

822
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: I think I think my boys Shador gonna get in

823
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: that starting for job over there.

824
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 2: I think I think Cleveland gonna be a little sum

825
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: this year too.

826
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: So and that division you got Cincinnati got Bro, you

827
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: got you know, my boy Ojoe team over there, you

828
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: got Jamarin Chase, you got T Higgins. I mean it's

829
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: some copp in that division over there. Man, I don't

830
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be that sweet for the dudes to

831
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: win that. I can't write that off and say they

832
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 3: gonna win it this year.

833
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: I can't, Oh, soe what you're thinking. They ran the

834
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: ball the fourth most last year. Obviously, Rogers wants to

835
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: throw the football. He's always had success throwing the football. Obviously,

836
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: like Djack said, not the success that probably he thought

837
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: he would have or everybody had the expectations because he

838
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the missing ingredient for the Jets

839
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: to take that next step. Obviously it didn't pan out.

840
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: They moved on after two years. What is your expectations

841
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: for the Steelers.

842
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 2: Well, listen, my expectations for them to compete.

843
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 4: They're gonna compete not only the division, but whatever their

844
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: schedule may look like, because they do have Aaron Rodgers.

845
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is not that Aaron Rodgers of old, but

846
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is better than what you had on your

847
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 4: team before. He signed right before Mini camp. He gives

848
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: him a chance to compete weekend and week out. As

849
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: far as win the division, that's that's not likely. The

850
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 4: division winners will probably be either the Bengals of the Ravens.

851
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna be realistic here based on the record

852
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 4: between between us, I'm an piggyback on what Lashawn said

853
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 4: the two. At some point, Joe Flacco will probably lose

854
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: that starting job to Shador and his tenure in Cleveland

855
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 4: will also start.

856
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: So outside of that, as.

857
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 4: Many people that may hate Aaron Rodgers for the way

858
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 4: he acts and then for all the stuff he does

859
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 4: off the field, some of the things he says on

860
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 4: camera and some of the things he says on TV,

861
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 4: he does give you a chance, and he does give

862
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: Stealer fans and that organization hope to compete weekend and

863
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 4: week out.

864
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: All right, d Jack, thanks for joining us head coach

865
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: or the Delaware State d Jack. Djack, tell people how

866
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: they can find you on social media. If you got

867
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: a YouTube page, you got ig, you got Twitter, Facebook,

868
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: Let our fans know how they can find you.

869
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, man, I appreciate it though obviously one on

870
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: one is my Instagram Shawn Jackson and attend at Twitter

871
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: Delaware State underscore football as well too. We're gonna plub

872
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: Delaware State in here, man. Everybody need to go out

873
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: to man. Support that cause, man, August, I mean October thirtieth.

874
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: Man at the link. Man come through. We had Lincoln Financial,

875
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: who got my brother Michael Vig. We're gonna be first time.

876
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: Obviously you've seen us a lot catching throwing, catch him touchdowns.

877
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: Now we go ahead to head versus slid on the

878
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: slide in our old stumber brounds. Man, So come out

879
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: October thirtieth markete calendars. Man were going at that thing.

880
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: Man, let's get it yep, gotter Sean Jackson, D jack

881
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

882
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: Best of luck. Man, stop back by when you have

883
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: some time. Bro. All right, man, y'all keep doing youall thing.

884
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: Man bless us appreciate it right, all right, bro.

885
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh Joe Shamar Stewart is no longer at the mandatory

886
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: minicap amid ongoing hold out with the Bengals over language

887
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: they want to put into his rookie contract. Per Adam Schefter,

888
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: Stuart left mandatory minicap due to contract dispute. Stuart, the

889
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: number seventeenth overall draft pick, is one of four remaining

890
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: unsigned first round selections from the twenty twenty five draft.

891
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: His situation appears to be the most contentious from that group.

892
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talks Mike Florio reported on May twenty four

893
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: that the issue between the Stewart and the Bengals involved

894
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: a phrase in which the contract would allow a default

895
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: in the current year to trigger a default in.

896
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: All remaining years.

897
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, hey, just think about o Joe, just think

898
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: you get a contract.

899
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: Let's just say, for the sake of argument, I get

900
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 2: a contract.

901
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: I got a five year d I got a four

902
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: year deal to fear the option they can pick it up.

903
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: So let's just say, at my rookie year, I do something.

904
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, contract detriment, I get suspended NFL whatever, the NFL

905
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: suspend me. Not only can they take the money back

906
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: that first year, but your two year, three year.

907
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: Four they get that guaranteed money too.

908
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 4: Oh hell no, yeah, absolutely absolutely listen as a player

909
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: and chat, y'all stay with me real quick. I'm not

910
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 4: sure again. I asked this when we talked about it

911
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 4: the other night. I asked, when it comes to Stewart,

912
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: what does his background look like? You know, what has

913
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 4: he done in the past. What did the Bengals find out, Like,

914
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: We're gonna take a chance on this young on this

915
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: young kid, because here's a tremendous talent. But there must

916
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 4: have been some red flags that we don't know about.

917
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: It has to be because there's no reason that the

918
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: Bengals are trying to set a precedent all of a sudden,

919
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 4: out the blue with this individual as good as he

920
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 4: was in college, wanted you to and you wanted the

921
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: draftic mis hot. I'm not sure what it is and

922
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 4: if if it's something that other teams now, if it's

923
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 4: something that other teams did, Okay, I understand, I understand that.

924
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 4: But the fact, the fact of the matter is with

925
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 4: that fine language, don't allow it to default money from

926
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: years down down the road.

927
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, allowed to be a year to year thing like

928
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: if you mess up this.

929
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 4: Year as your rookie, well, all that guaranteed money your

930
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 4: rookie year boom, young boy. You're not touching that, but

931
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: all the money to come that's guaranteed moving forward on

932
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 4: later years, that's a no no. As much as I

933
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: love my Bangles, I mean, I just don't see and

934
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 4: don't I don't understand what the issue is or why

935
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 4: they're doing it.

936
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: Well, the NFL should institute to find if a team

937
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: gets fined for doing something all the money, the money

938
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: that you would get in subsequent years would go away.

939
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: So that four hundred and twenty five million dollars that

940
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: you would get in twenty twenty six if you did,

941
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: if you had something that go wrong in twenty five,

942
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: you don't get twenty six, twenty seven or twenty eight money.

943
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: I got one to go for that, right exactly. No,

944
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 2: why do you expect players?

945
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: Why do you think because you're in an advantageous situation

946
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: that you want to say, we'll look take her to

947
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: leave it?

948
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: Hey, take your hands back to the draft, young man.

949
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: I was just get ready to ask you that. Uh,

950
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: I was just absolute.

951
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 4: Now, canny, opt out and go back into the draft

952
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: again and be drafted by somebody else.

953
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: That'll be something that that's something that the Players Association

954
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: would probably get the lawyers involved with the NFL, because look,

955
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: you go back and look normally what happens, oh joe.

956
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks are different, but normally you look at what the

957
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: what did the player get that was drafted in the

958
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: same slot in twenty twenty four, and normally he gets

959
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: a ten percent raise. So let's just say, for the

960
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 1: sake of argument, oh Joe, he got twenty million, Yes,

961
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: ten percent, that's twenty two million. Okay, Now you work

962
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: on you work on incentives and things like that. How

963
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: much of the money is guaranteed because now you look

964
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: at the top five, top six guys, their entire contracts

965
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: are guaranteed. Yes, sir, the entire contracts is guaranteed. You

966
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: get twenty five thirty million dollars signing bonus at the time,

967
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: and then you know the rest of it. So if

968
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: it's a forty three million dollars dollar contract, you get

969
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: thirty million guaranteed. So you know you over the next

970
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: four years, three four years, you gonna get thirteen million.

971
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: But you got your money. So they pro rated over

972
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: the length of the contract, the signing bonus. They sprayed

973
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: it out and the Bengals doing this and I, oh, Joe,

974
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: I get it. This is a mom and park shop.

975
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: Their dad Paul Brown beefit to the son Mike Brown.

976
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: But no, Joe, everybody got three hundred to three hundred

977
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: and twenty five million dollars.

978
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: That's before you sold.

979
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: Anything, any tickets, that's any concession, any parking pass, local TV,

980
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: local radio, local sponsorship. So you go the NFL cutting

981
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: checks for between three hundred and three hundred and fifty

982
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: million dollars before you do anything locally, Yes, sir, and

983
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: you gonna try to hard time me tell me about

984
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna take some money back if I do something

985
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: in year one and you're gonna take money from your two, three, four.

986
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: Now, y'all gonna get the bleep out of here. Yeah, listen,

987
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: this is unforst This Unforcenate. It is frustrating.

988
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: It's frustrating for me obviously being being a huge, huge

989
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 4: Bengal advocate noise riding for my team, the ups the downs,

990
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 4: and and us already having issues on the defensive end

991
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: and knowing that's what we need to focus all our

992
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: attention on.

993
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: And having a player that you draft so high and.

994
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 4: And and and and having these issues and having them

995
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 4: not be a part of you know, mandatory mini camp

996
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 4: and him actually leaving and there's an opportunity and maybe

997
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 4: a chance that he can opt out and go back

998
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 4: into It's just it's a distraction.

999
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: Is he interesting to see? Ojo? How have they done

1000
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: this with other contracts?

1001
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I told you, I told you it was

1002
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 4: a hold up, you know, I mean a little little

1003
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 4: little birdie told me a birdie close enough that they

1004
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 4: had some wording and verbiage and chasing Ti Higgins contract

1005
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 4: that they held it up just a tad bit. Yeah

1006
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 4: you got old hell no, not no, not us. So

1007
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 4: so this was this was lingering a little bit. But

1008
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: because they are who they are, they were able to

1009
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 4: get that, you know what, ab out of there.

1010
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: So now we about a rookie who is yet to

1011
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: prove himself.

1012
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 4: You know, we got to that. They already been proven.

1013
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: So man, were not signing nothing until that's the out

1014
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 4: of there. So now in this case, they ride with it.

1015
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 4: They're trying to draw land in the sand. And so

1016
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: what that means if they start because Harry is the thing.

1017
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna let you start the president with me,

1018
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 4: because what you do if you put it now. So

1019
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five they put this in his contract.

1020
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: Guess what all the rookies that signed with the Bengals

1021
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: moving forward is gonna have in their contract and language.

1022
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: You're not gonna start that precedent with me. Yeah, it's

1023
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: not happening.

1024
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: Now. It's unfortunate, man, it's very frustrating, very frustrating.

1025
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: Now, yo, oh, y'all, don't know if you noticed this

1026
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: today the new passes for the LA Chargers practice jerseys jerseys.

1027
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 2: We missed something.

1028
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: Oh, if a rookie do not sign their contract after

1029
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,959
Speaker 1: being drafted, they can re enter the draft the following year.

1030
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: They can also choose to enter free agency and potentially

1031
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: sign with another team if the draft teams right them

1032
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: aren't traded. A player who doesn't sign can either choose

1033
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: to sit out a year or re enter the draft

1034
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: later so he can do leverage.

1035
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: You become a free agent, what would you do?

1036
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: I ain't said, not like the money, I gotta player.

1037
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: I can't go back to college.

1038
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: I ain't got no eligibility because if I could, I

1039
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: go back to college and get a nil deal. But

1040
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm gonna be a free agent because I'm

1041
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: sure Cincinnati was not the only team that had him

1042
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: high on their draft board. Now, is it something like

1043
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: is it something like a what do they call it?

1044
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: I think they used to do where you should draft

1045
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: the guy in the summer. What did they call that draft?

1046
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: Supplemental draft? I don't think they have the supplemental draft anymore.

1047
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: But if you took somebody Bobby Humphrey got drafted into

1048
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: the supplemental Draft in nineteen eighty nine, they took Steve

1049
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 1: Atwater first, but they had a supplemental draft. Bobby Humphrey

1050
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: went number one in the supplemental draft, which means the

1051
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: following year the Broncos didn't have a first round draft pick.

1052
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: So that's how the supplemental draft worked. If you took somebody,

1053
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: whatever round you took him in that following year, you

1054
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: lost that round of a draft pick. So with Shamark,

1055
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: With Moore, I'm sure others had him as a top

1056
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: as the first had a first round grade on it.

1057
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: Hey, which I'll got for you. Boy.

1058
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not sitting out on Joe because,

1059
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: like I said, I want money.

1060
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need that. I need that.

1061
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 4: If forget them, I mean the money part is obviously,

1062
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 4: but my childhood dream has finally come true. Yes, I

1063
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: would work all the obstacles. I overcame everything. I finally

1064
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 4: get drafted. Boom, Mama, I made it.

1065
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: Thank you. Now get here.

1066
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 4: That's another issue. That's another problem, something that I can't avoid.

1067
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 4: It's the business side of things. It's the ugly side

1068
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 4: of things.

1069
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: I hated.

1070
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 4: I know, young boy wanted to get out there and played. Yes,

1071
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: I understand if he sits out, I understand if he

1072
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 4: if he opts out to go back in the draft,

1073
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: I get it. I understand that he's frustrated. I'm sure

1074
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 4: his parents are frustrated. The agent probably frustrated and saw

1075
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 4: the fans.

1076
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: So listen.

1077
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 4: Joe'spocus piece, Joe's focus piece. But one thing about it.

1078
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 4: You know, if you if you know the Bangals, if

1079
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 4: you don't management, if you don't ownership, you're not finna

1080
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: bully them.

1081
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: You're not.

1082
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 4: You're not for to make them do nothing they don't

1083
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: want to do. You're not gonna set that president. And

1084
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 4: if you joke so.

1085
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: Oh, I know. But that's kind of why the Bengals

1086
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: have been in that situation. They wouldn't pay Boomer, they

1087
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't pay a lot of their good players, and their

1088
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: good players left. That's kind of why they've been in

1089
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: the situation. Now you got an ideal situation. The last

1090
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: thing you want, O Joe, going into a season where

1091
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: you have so much hope and promise is distraction. Joe

1092
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: told you the Tray Hendrickson is a distraction because you're

1093
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: not asking how we're getting better, You're asking what should

1094
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: they do?

1095
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: I gotta keep asking this.

1096
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: Now I gotta ask answer another question about my first

1097
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: round draft pick and them not getting paid and them

1098
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: trying to set a president that no other team is setting.

1099
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, distraction, But the Bengals don't see.

1100
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: But here that's the thing, though, o Jo, Because see,

1101
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: there's really no benefit other than your your ownership, wanting pride.

1102
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: That's the only benefit of winning.

1103
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: Because guess what, Ojo, whether you get whether you were

1104
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia the Philadelphia Eagles got the same amount of money.

1105
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: Who was the worst, who picked first?

1106
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: Oh, Tennessee, they got the same rep new everybody got

1107
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: a check for three fifty.

1108
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 2: So tell me the incentive.

1109
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: See, we normally have an incentive because you prize money,

1110
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you with them, you get three million, you

1111
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: get second, you get two million, so forth to so on.

1112
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: But just imagine would that be any incentive to win

1113
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: other than your pride? If okay, first prize get five million,

1114
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: second prize get five million, third pride get five million,

1115
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: what incentive is that, o Joe. So the Bengals really

1116
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: don't have any incentive to do anything because guess what,

1117
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: the NFL is gonna cut them a check for three

1118
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million, just like they're gonna cut the

1119
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion or the last place team. And that's

1120
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: before they sell anything or they have any event in

1121
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: the stadium. Yeah, So that's that's that's that's why I

1122
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: mean it takes a special type. I mean some ownership. Clearly,

1123
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: Harry Roseman wants to win. Even though the forty nine

1124
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: ers haven't won. Hell, they go damn near all in

1125
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: every year. Stand Cronketty on the other rams, he wants

1126
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: to win. He damn near shoved kIPS in the militable

1127
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: all year. If you notice, it's only the Bengals that

1128
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: do things like this, the high go and try to

1129
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: penny pinch bro. You getting a check for three point

1130
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: fifty three hundred and fifty billion, know, Joe.

1131
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: Damn hey listens, Well, it's frustrating.

1132
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: Why it's very frustrated because, like you said, the last

1133
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: thing that you want to have happened, oh Joe, is

1134
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: to happen.

1135
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: Why are we still.

1136
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: Talking about a rookie a butt not signed, and here

1137
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: we are we damn it, We're damned it.

1138
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: In July, we're going We're going, Hey, we're going to

1139
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: training camp. In a month.

1140
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, who's training camp in the month? And you

1141
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: and I got to deal with this bull jive.

1142
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.

1143
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: New patches for the LA Chargers practice Jersey show both

1144
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: personal and team achievement on East Jersey. This is the

1145
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: first form of professional This is the first form a

1146
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: professional football team. Oh Joe, you like this? So, okay,

1147
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: got captain. I can't read this.

1148
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: So what was that the water bottles? Okay? Yeah, so

1149
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: he got like, you got a captain, so you got

1150
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 2: the captains.

1151
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: So you got a captain, and then you got a

1152
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: start for one year, two year, three on, and you

1153
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: got Pro Bowl, you got all Pro. If you got

1154
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: the franchise record most passing yards of the season, okay,

1155
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you had the record for the most receiving yard,

1156
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: you would have a patch, now, I mean that would

1157
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: be you know what, it's kind of like, I guess

1158
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: look like NASCAR because you don't get that.

1159
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean this this is strict, stricty for practice, right,

1160
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: strict from practic yah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that.

1161
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: You could put a patt.

1162
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: You could put your patch on there if you have

1163
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: a sponsor, but they NFLF it let you put all

1164
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: those patches on it.

1165
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 4: Not without them monetizing and making some money off up

1166
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 4: and that ain't happening.

1167
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: But listen, not I think it's dope. Is It's not

1168
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 2: like it I do.

1169
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: It's no different than college you know, Ohio State buck guys.

1170
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: I think for sho you know, they get the they

1171
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: get the Tomahawks, and I think you remember.

1172
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hear the declay, you get a you got

1173
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: a big going touchdown and you.

1174
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: Know, hey, you know I get I need to bring

1175
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: my hell be could I had on the days?

1176
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1177
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: Yo is filled up? Oh yeah yeah field up. Yeah.

1178
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: We have sculled the cross bowls right right, right right,

1179
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 2: we have called the crawl Bowls. Don't joke, Okay, okay,

1180
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 2: I mean I think it's dope. It's cool and cool.

1181
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 4: I mean this is I don't think you really did

1182
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 4: centivize NFL players and reminding them, you know, their accolades

1183
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 4: and what they've done, what they've done today.

1184
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: But if they.

1185
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 4: Still having it on the jersey and patches in some

1186
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: type of motivating, motivating tactic, I guess it's cool.

1187
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: Think about what what you would do when coach said

1188
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: he we win this game.

1189
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: We ain't got to come in till Wednesday. Boy, I

1190
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: don't care. Yeah, let me get money to Monday and

1191
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: Monday and Tuesday off.

1192
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: Many was gone, hey hey man, especially if you home,

1193
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: thank gods, trying to catch them fight out Sunday night.

1194
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: To go somewhere out of there, right out of them. Yeah.

1195
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: Oh hey, all right, hey, have a good practice. We

1196
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: off tomorrow. I'm like, really, do really, y'all gonna do this?

1197
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: So y'all so in other words, y'all been bullgiving the

1198
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: other practice. But it's it's it's little things like that, Hey, hey,

1199
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a we'll have a cookout. Because we

1200
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: always did faith offense against the defense. It was always competition,

1201
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: whether we bowl, we we you know, we got divided

1202
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: up teams and shot and it was always off. We

1203
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: always compete against each other, right right right, And.

1204
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: So I get it. But I like that. I do

1205
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: like that old Joe. I like that. I like it.

1206
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 2: There's dope, dope, it's dope something new. Yeah, it's kind

1207
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: of like the All Star.

1208
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: You know, all Star in basketball, they started putting your

1209
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: accompliment four time league MVP Finals, m VP. How many

1210
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: All Star teams you made? How many All the NBA

1211
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: teams you made. So I like it. Uh, you think

1212
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: other team's gonna adopt this? On Joe, I think they will.

1213
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: I mean I think they will. It all depends and

1214
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: you think about it.

1215
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 4: When you look at the landscape of the NFL, you

1216
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 4: know it's only maybe three or four three or four

1217
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 4: players that's gonna have patches on their stuff now because they.

1218
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: Did it with the Walter Payton You remember, all Joe,

1219
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: if you wanted to Walter Payton the War they put

1220
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: that up, they put that d.

1221
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 4: Yes, I do I do remember that. I do remember

1222
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 4: that absolutely. But I think I think, I think other

1223
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 4: teams may adopt it. You know, some some teams might

1224
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 4: not really care for it or or or want to

1225
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 4: go to that extent of adding patches of accolades and

1226
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 4: what people have done.

1227
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: They do that hold on, they do that at this

1228
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 1: at the super Bowl now, you know how the guys

1229
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: come out there in the tracks, who's on Tuesday and

1230
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: for the thing that you see the MVPs and stuffy

1231
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: super Bowl.

1232
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I like I like this. I like this.

1233
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: I can get behind it. It might be something new,

1234
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: might be.

1235
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: Some Joe left tackle Trent Williams fins. His goal is

1236
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 1: to play into his forties. He turns thirty seven in July.

1237
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: It's one of them things that were I'm going to

1238
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: do everything possible to play as long as I can

1239
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: and to put a good product on the foot on

1240
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: foot of football out there, and then when it's going

1241
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: my way, then I'll know. But I could play until

1242
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm forty one, who knows. But that's a goal of mine.

1243
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not going to retire with some left in

1244
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: the tank. So in other words, he said, that would

1245
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: the wheels fall off, he called rolls side of the

1246
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: system to drag my masks off the field. But until

1247
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: the I play it, that's it.

1248
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 4: And one thing about it, someone like Trent, someone of

1249
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 4: Trent Williams caliber, as good as he is, can play

1250
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 4: well into his forty as long as stay healthy.

1251
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 2: Yep, long stay healthy. That that's that's all Ago, That

1252
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: that's all it comes down to. And he asked it.

1253
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 4: Obviously, the older you get, the more technically sound you

1254
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 4: gotta be. The older you look, the more technically sound

1255
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 4: you gotta because them young bulls, you know, the coming

1256
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 4: that edge, Yojo, Well they are coming as great as

1257
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 4: he is. They got to make sure that kicks still right. Now,

1258
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 4: you got better better ankle down. So the thing is now, Ojo.

1259
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: Guys do a better job of taking care of themselves,

1260
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: regardless of position, and even though they might not have

1261
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: the most aesthetic bodies, guys take better care of themselves, right,

1262
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: Guys take better care of them.

1263
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: So they just do.

1264
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: Because I got into the league, guys were still smoking cigarettes.

1265
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna call them. Name what guy was still

1266
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes? Hey, we get a break. God going to

1267
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: the car. They standing outside they car, they smoke it.

1268
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: Like I tell you, the funny thing I see. I

1269
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: saw Greg Towns and that the Raiders. I mean, we're

1270
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: walking in the first game of the season, we played

1271
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: on the road at the Old Coliseum. Man, I get

1272
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: I was walking out and walk into the locker room.

1273
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: By the time I get there, he's sitting outside on

1274
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: his helmet smoking.

1275
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: I believe I can't believe it on Joe, did I

1276
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: know guys? Yes, we had very prominent guys on our

1277
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 2: on our team that smoke. But yeah, the game.

1278
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 4: You know that classic picture of Lynn Dawson, Yes, that's

1279
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 4: that's exactly how town was sitting on his helmet smoking

1280
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 4: a cigarette.

1281
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: But you remember that picture that I think that picture

1282
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: has been black and white. Yeah, I saw it was

1283
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 1: my own color eyes. Hey, that's funny, man.

1284
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 2: It was wild back then. Like some of the stuff.

1285
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 2: I didn't heard the story. Boy, you ain't got to

1286
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: tell me. Listen, listen.

1287
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 4: I just said that twin piece for LT and I

1288
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 4: didn't got them got some good stories.

1289
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't got some. I don't mean to be disrespectful.

1290
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 4: Right, but when you played football, when you used to

1291
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 4: fly airlines domessic, was that during the time they could

1292
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: smoke cigarettes on the plane when you got Yeah, yeah,

1293
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 4: that's crazy.

1294
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you used to be a smoking restaurants. You got

1295
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: a smoking section of a non smoking section. It's like

1296
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Speaker 1: would you like to sit and smoking a non and

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00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people like, well, what's first available? But

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Speaker 1: but if you if you at a restaurant, what's about throwing?

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00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: You might be back to back, but in a smoking section?

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Speaker 2: Do damn? I want you know what history? Or is

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Speaker 2: your pizzaself? Right? No? I don't think that was coming

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00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: back on your Hell no, not smoking? And do now?

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Speaker 1: Now you go to the casino, oh yeah, the club?

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00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: You know anything they smoking cigarettes, se ridge weed, all

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Speaker 1: of the club. That's what That's what really stopped me

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Speaker 1: from going to the club. Bout yo whine may all

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00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: that smoke. Man, you gotta hange. You gotta hang your

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Speaker 1: shirt up in the shot out with stuff. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't know that would be turn you

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Speaker 2: from going to the club.

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't smoked from going to the club. I

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Speaker 1: don't like Oh cha, I can't stay. I ain't no,

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Speaker 1: I ain't no late. I'm a I'm an early Roger,

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Speaker 1: so I need to be in.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget it now, your boy, here's an early riser too.

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Speaker 4: Now, I understand. I understand what you gotta say. I

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Speaker 4: take a nap during the day if I know I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna want to do something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But when I went to Area twenty nine, yeah

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Speaker 2: you had to do I had to do the show man.

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Speaker 2: I slept for five hours.

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Speaker 4: During the day. I get, yes, I can't hey when

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Speaker 4: I go to Tutsi's. When I go to Tutsi's, you know,

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Speaker 4: I gotta get me seafood, rice and lot to tail.

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00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 4: I take a nap during the day. And the fact

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Speaker 4: that I only go places where I can smoke my cigar.

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Speaker 4: If I can't smoke a cigar, I'm not coming. I'm

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Speaker 4: not coming, Like, don't even in fight me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not like I said I but I

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Speaker 1: really never like I'm not. I'm not really a go

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Speaker 1: out type of person. I like to go out for it.

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Speaker 1: And I ain't really trying to. I ain't trying to

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Speaker 1: close the club.

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Speaker 2: Down, right, right, right?

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Speaker 1: A last call for alcohol, last call last. I ain't

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Speaker 1: trying to be there, right, I ain't trying to. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're still sitting on the stool and the man trying

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Speaker 1: to move the stool out the way and try to

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Speaker 1: clean up, and you're still there, broke, take.

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Speaker 2: Your Hey, hey, the lights come on?

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Speaker 4: I am and I heard some funny stories, like women

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00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 4: look different, women look different than you know. You get

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00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 4: a couple of drinks, so you know some people that's

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00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 4: really not attractive, they look a little different. You get

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00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 4: a few drinks in you they hit them blight song

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Speaker 4: and you get to see what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: And then you know what happened. What happened when you

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Speaker 2: ain't got no alcohol in your sister? Hey, wait, something

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Speaker 2: my homeboys say when the lights come on? That's the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. You better get what you can. You better

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Speaker 2: get what you can.

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Speaker 1: Nah, I done lost this when I take my chance

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Speaker 1: at this time