1 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Welcome into the best podcast available. That's right, it is 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: the best podcast available to you. And you know that 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: because you've gotten it. You're here with us. Nathan Sigura, 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: the voice of the Cleveland Browns, Jim Donovan, Natscha and 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Sir Andrew Gribble all with you here. After day two 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: of the Browns and the Colts Joy practices and gentlemen, 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens told his team to set the tone, and 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: I believe they did just that. Jim, what did you 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: see today from the Browns? Well, Um, you're right, he 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: definitely got to them. I think after the practice yesterday, 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: which went okay. I mean it was good. It was 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: the better team yesterday, but I think he thought that, 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: you know, they kind of, you know, I don't know, 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: took it easy or you know, played maybe to the 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Colts speed. And he wanted them to play to what 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: he's been doing with them, and I think they did 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: and wow, it was it was really something to watch. 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: It was feisty. Um, but I think that happens anyway 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: when teams go up against each other for two days 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: in a row, and um, you know, I don't know 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: if I don't think we'll see that Saturday. But I 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: think that I think that the Browns were They just 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: have such a different look about them. They're just so 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: physical and I'm not saying it's a swagger, but they 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: do kind of walk around like they're a really good 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: football team and they know it. Yeah, and I think 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: we saw that both sides of the ball. Nick, what 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: you see today, I mean, I would agree if I 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: think fisty and swagger are two really good words to 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: describe this team. They they definitely have a chip on 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: their shoulder and a and a unified attitude that they 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: will take nothing from anybody. Any challenger is welcome to 33 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: attempt to challenge them, but they will give them their all. 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: That's what they did today. They came out and played 35 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: physical from the very start. They want at the point 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: of attack on the defensive line, and they really set 37 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: the tone up there. The Colts offense struggled as a result, 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: they got a lot of pressure on Jacoby ber said 39 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: on Chad Kelly on whoever the Colts put back there. 40 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: They had a lot of issues. A lot of the 41 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: times they were forced to check down and dump it 42 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: out in the flats when they tried to move the 43 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: ball in this period because no one was open or 44 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: they just didn't have time to sit back and wait 45 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: for somebody to get open. I think that's a credit 46 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: to the Brown's defense. And it's not just the defensive line, 47 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: but the linebackers played really well, and the cornerbacks are 48 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: in safeties, are playing tight coverage. Really a full team 49 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: effort from the defensive side of the football today and 50 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: I think it was a total victory. And offensively, Peyton 51 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: Manning was in the house, first timing to attended the 52 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: Colts practice since he left the Colts, and from what 53 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: I heard as he was impressed with Baker Mayfield and 54 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: why wouldn't he be today grips, he put on a 55 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: little bit of a show. Yeah. I mean it started 56 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: with a really impressive seven on seven session where he 57 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: had Jarvis Landry at his disposal, which wasn't the case 58 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: yesterday for really the majority of the practice, and he 59 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: went to Jarvis early and often, and I think that 60 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: got him in a rhythm. It came out for a 61 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: two minute drill and they thrown in completion and then 62 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: buzz right down the field and it was just it 63 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: was all it was down the middle, back to back 64 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: throws down the sideline of Jalen Strong and then too 65 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: Jarvis wide open in the middle of the end. So 66 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: it on a short, little pass. So I mean, I 67 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: think I wasn't officially looking at the clock, but I 68 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: think they did it well. Under two minutes they were moving, uh, 69 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: and it was. It's something that is clearly emerging as 70 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: a strength of this team is the two minute offense. 71 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: Baker played at that speed his entire college career. He 72 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: is in his comfort zone. He's good when they're slow, 73 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: but he's really good when they're moving fast. Did did 74 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield go to the Manning passing camp when he 75 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: was a kid? I was wondering, because you would think 76 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: they do, but at that time he probably didn't have 77 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: that fan fair Yeah, I always. I know somebody else 78 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: who went there, former Brown's quarterback that didn't go so 79 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: well unfortunately for him. Uh. Jim, you make a great 80 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: point there, And Jim, I ask you and all three 81 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: of you, actually, is this an offense that maybe we 82 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: should run? Not necessarily only in a two minute situation. 83 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Just let Baker get up there, go high Temple with 84 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: all these weapons, keep a certain personnel group on the 85 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: field and attack well. I could definitely see that being 86 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: a you know, a couple of pages in that playbook. Um, 87 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: and all the really good quarterbacks love doing that. I mean, 88 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: you know Ben Roethlisberg loved doing it, and Todd Haley 89 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: let him do it, and Bruce arians before that let 90 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: him do it. I think Brady to do it. They 91 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: love calling the plays up at the line of scrimmage 92 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: and getting into a tempo. I mean, and I don't 93 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: know that it's gonna be something that they would start 94 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: a game with after we saw them started against the Redskins, 95 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: but it's certainly something if it did as you said, Andrew, 96 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: if they've got a little bit off tempo and got 97 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: slow and you wanted to jump started and get it going, 98 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: then yeah, I think that. You know, they are so 99 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: equipped to do it now. I mean, you know, they 100 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: they have personnel groups coming out of their ears that 101 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: can do it. Yeah, it seems that they're very efficient, 102 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: and you mentioned Baker just seems so comfortable in that look. 103 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: I think it's a weapon that they have in the 104 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: arsenal they could probably pull out at any time, and 105 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: which I think is extremely dangerous from an offensive perspective, 106 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: because you know, let's say that you you have a 107 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: scoring drive, maybe put ten points on the board, you 108 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: get like a ten seven lead or something like, then 109 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you come out up tempo. You're 110 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: in the middle of the second quarter or you start 111 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: the second half with that, You catch the defense, you 112 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: put them on their heels, you move right down the field, 113 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: and you get a touchdown. I mean, that's something that 114 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: a lot of teams probably wished that they could do, 115 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: and it's been very clear in this camp that this 116 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: team is very, very able to do. So I think 117 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: it's just another thing that you have, I think in 118 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: your bag that you can go to And I think 119 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: what we scene from Freddie Kitchens and this goes all 120 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: the way back to his I would I think it 121 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: was his first game as the coordinator of the Browns 122 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: is he went into that game against the Chiefs knowing, 123 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: we need to keep our defense off the field as 124 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: much as possible, and that's when the Browns had some 125 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: of the longest drives of the season. There was a 126 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: ball control offense that they ran very effectively. But then 127 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: he also knows when to push the right buttons to 128 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: get this team moving down the field and the only 129 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: danger of going. The reason you can't go up tempo 130 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: all games that it really hurts you. It can hurt 131 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: your defense. And I mean, you go up tempo, you 132 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: do a fast three and out, that's no break for 133 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: your defense. And I think that that's the danger you 134 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 1: can run into, especially as the season gets gets longer 135 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: and and guys getting tired. But I mean, he is 136 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: a guy that is equipped to play this kind of 137 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: of tempo. And it's the coaches that maximize the strengths 138 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: of the players they have that seem to do the best. 139 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: And this is clearly a strength of Baker. But the 140 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: only thing is you you I was just gonna say me, 141 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, you don't I think, and I really do 142 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: believe that there is a huge chunk of the offense 143 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: that is going to be going his way, and that 144 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: would be the only thing that I think you would 145 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: start to lose his effectiveness. And and exactly what you're 146 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: saying is that if you want to control the play, 147 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: you want to control the game and keep that defense 148 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: off the field. Even though I think they look tremendous, 149 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: but I mean, the best the best side of them 150 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: is on the is on the sideline because you're out 151 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: on the field, and then I think the Chubb game 152 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: becomes a big part of it too. I think it's 153 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: a really you know, it's something that everyone's gonna have 154 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: to prepare when you'll play against them. Though, of course, 155 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: the Nick Chubb Right after that two minute drill, the 156 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: next team period, they came out and one carry Nick 157 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: Chubb sixty five yards touchdown Browns and it just kind 158 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: of shows his explosive ability. And I think talking about 159 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: Chubb in the two minute drill, if you go back 160 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: to that first drive against Washington, I think he had 161 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: what one carry for thirteen yards and caught two passes 162 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: for another twenty six or so. So he his his 163 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: development as a pass catcher I think has been really 164 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: great for the Browns, certainly this offseason. But he's he's 165 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: a weapon. That's the thing about it is how are 166 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: teams gonna try to combat with the Browns do passing 167 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: the football? And then they got a little bit the 168 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: light defense and all of a sudden, you're just gonna 169 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: go run it down their throats with Nick Chubb who 170 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: looks faster and stronger and and and better than ever, right, 171 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's the overarching point here is this 172 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: team can do it in a multitude of ways, which 173 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: you know is excellent to think about for this offense 174 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: considering that you know, we've lacked this ability for many, 175 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, years, but this is a different team and 176 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: and the potential is sky high. I mean, you can 177 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: move the ball in a number of different ways, scoring 178 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: a number of different ways. You want to slow it down, 179 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: you can slow it down and pound the ground with 180 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. If you want to go fast, you can 181 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: clearly go fast, and you can do everything in between. 182 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: And we haven't even again really tested this offense with 183 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham on the field. I mean, that's that's arguably 184 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: your best weapon. So you know, it's it's extremely excited 185 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: to think about. Jim, you've been around the team longer 186 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: than any of us here, and we talked about it earlier. 187 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: Just the kind of the togetherness, the camaraderie of this team, 188 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: the way that they seem really to love each other, 189 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: they share in the celebrations, they had each other's back 190 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: out here today. Does this kind of have that feel 191 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: to you of of probably one of the closer Brown 192 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: seam or maybe even the closest that you've certainly and 193 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 1: sometimes yeah, you know, coach our second year when they 194 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: they had lost to Miami in the playoffs, they blew 195 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: a big lead in the game down at the Orange 196 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: Ball and they lost the game. And then they changed 197 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: their offense and Lyndi and Fani came in and they 198 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: were gonna throw the ball and they were really kind 199 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: of almost like a little bit of a West Coast offense. 200 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: And they came out and but they knew they were 201 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: going to be good that next year, and they were 202 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: and they went twelve and four and all the way 203 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: to the a f C Championship game. This team has 204 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: that kind of look now. From up until this there 205 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: were a lot of times where there were factions on 206 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: the team. The defense said, you know, we're gonna have 207 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: to play a lot because the offense can't move the ball. Um, 208 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, the offense knew that they were probably letting 209 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: the defense down. And then the quarterback was never a 210 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: confidence point for the team never, I mean, and that 211 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: and that's a that's a huge problem. And I think 212 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: these guys, the Cults are feeling it right now as 213 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: their camp winds up here today. I mean, they're they're 214 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: an incomplete picture because of the Andrew Luck question mark. 215 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: But I think it is. I think it's a very 216 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: very together bunch. It really knows they're very good. I 217 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: think they know they're good and it could be a 218 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: very special run for them, you know, you know. And 219 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: the key with that though, is the difference between knowing. 220 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: You can know you're good and not apply it. This 221 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: team is very much applying in and they're not taking 222 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: it for granted, which I think goes right back to 223 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens and what he's emphasized and stressed with them 224 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: since the moment he got this job, in the moment 225 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: they came in for offseason work up till now, which 226 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: is playing together and working their tails off the Cleveland Browns. 227 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: In my seven this has been by seven season, so 228 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: the six years prior, I always felt like we're a 229 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: team that was reactionary. And what I mean by that 230 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: is another team would come in, they would impose their 231 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: will on the Browns, and the Browns chance to win 232 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: was to kind of take their blows and hope that 233 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: they caught him in a mess up somewhere and then win. 234 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: We were never, at least I never felt like the 235 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: Browns were the team that was going to go on 236 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: the field and set the tone and impose their will. 237 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: And this is a group that feels like any time 238 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: they go on the field, they are ready to impose 239 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: their will and be the out for a team. And 240 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: I think that's what Freddie wanted, and I think that's 241 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: what we're seeing. And I thought today you saw it 242 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: playing his day against the team. And yet was Quentin 243 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Nelson out there? No? Was Andrew Luck out there? No? 244 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: But you're talking about a group of guys that were 245 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: very successful last year nine out of ten games. They 246 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: wanted to finish that season and I thought the Browns 247 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: were better all over the field. So you know, the 248 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: beloved Illyria native Les Miles went on a rant one 249 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: time about being in a hammer instead of being the nail. 250 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: That's right, And I think that's that's kind of the 251 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: the cliche that applies applies to exactly what you're talking about. 252 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: And I think that is details what Freddie saw yesterday 253 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: compared to what he wanted today and what he got today. 254 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's that's why he was so happy 255 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: after today's practice. Yeah. He I have not seen him 256 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: that pleased with what he saw from his team at 257 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: any point and I thought we all enjoyed it and 258 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: it was great to see. All right. I want to 259 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: go around the table now, who helped themselves the most, 260 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: Whether it's somebody to try to be a starter, whether 261 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: somebody to make the team. Who do you think in 262 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: the two days here in uh outside of Indianapolis, here 263 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: in Westfield, Indiana, who do you think helped themselves the 264 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: most in these two days against the Colts. Well, I 265 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: would say that it looks like Jerrick Cush is really 266 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: settling in, you know, at the right guard spot. Now. 267 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if that if he's going to be 268 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: declared that um, and I know that we've all focused 269 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: on that position. But the offensive line, it's maybe as 270 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: a group, and and certainly him taking more number one 271 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: reps than anybody else there, maybe taking them all as 272 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: a matter of fact. Um, I think that they kind 273 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: of they looked they looked good. I thought today and 274 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: when when Chub hit that run that was an inside 275 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: run too. When he hit that run, there was an 276 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: explosion of elation with Mayfield and the entire offensive line 277 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: and it was really good and it was really sincere. 278 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: So I think the offensive line in the last two 279 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: days and definitely today kind of settled down, and because 280 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: I think there was a little worry about them. I 281 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: think there is in the outside, and that's the one 282 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: position group that you're consistently hearing the outside say isn't 283 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: good enough. And I think they did enjoy their performance today. 284 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: Who helped himselves the most in your n you know, 285 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and split between yeah, you know, yeah, 286 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: We'll go between two guys. The guy who helped himself, 287 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: who maybe on the bubble is Daniel Aqually. Had a 288 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: really nice couple of days. He's had a really solid camp. 289 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: I think they really like him a lot, and he 290 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: played well off of Larry Ogan Joey today, uh in 291 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: place of Sheldon Richardson. Whenever they rotated, I heard a 292 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: lot of ninety six nine six get in, get in, 293 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: So it's good that he's getting those reps. But another 294 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: guy who's just it's really great to see back and 295 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: see playing with his defense is Genard Avery. I mean, 296 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: he is really great rushing off the edge and and 297 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching him get around the edge today and 298 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. So it's great to see him 299 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: back on the field. Four and a half Saxon. By 300 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: the way, Gibby, you could appreciate this. Nick shook a 301 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: man after my own heart. Give me one guy, He's 302 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: gonna give you two every time I do the same thing. 303 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: I love it. Grips you got. I'm gonna go with 304 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: Jalen Strong and I think he's He's someone that I 305 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: think if he was gonna have to be a starting 306 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: receiver for this team, if this team just didn't have 307 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham and Jarvis Slandry, I'd feel fine about He's 308 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: been that good in camp. Outside of one day where 309 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: he dropped two touchdown passes acted back, it's been all 310 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: good since then. I mean he was the most consistent 311 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: receiver the Browns had on this field for the last 312 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: two practices, no doubt. Yeah. I mean he was making 313 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: plays anytime the ball was thrown to him, making tough catches, 314 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: making easy catches, getting open consistently. He has really turned 315 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: things around. Uh for really what was a make or 316 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: break year for him? I mean he's coming off You're 317 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: not many guys go a year without playing football and 318 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: then come back and play good football. So I think 319 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: he is someone who's really in a in a much 320 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: better maybe more comfortable spot than he was before he 321 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: came here. He doesn't want to get comfortable because that's 322 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: the that's the there's enough depth at this wide re 323 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: serial position where if you knows dive after this, you 324 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: might not make the team. But he if he keeps 325 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: this up, he's going to be a part of this offense. 326 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: Because if you look at what Todd Munkin did in 327 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, even though he had two good tight ends, 328 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: differently his running backs much didn't have any good running backs, 329 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: but he used four wide receivers a lot and got 330 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: them involved, got them a lot of touches, and especially 331 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: with callaways suspended, I mean, Strong has a really good 332 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to be an impactful player on this office. And 333 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: it's clear he's developing a chemistry Baker, especially in the 334 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: red zone. He's making a lot of catches in the 335 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: end zone. And I think he's done more to help 336 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: himself over the last seven days than really anybody. The 337 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: guy that I'm going to single out for these two days, 338 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: uh is behind Eric Kush, but a guy that we 339 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: were thinking was maybe even on the roster bubble as 340 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: a draft pick, and that's Drew Forbes. And he's Freddie 341 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: Kitchens told me. He said, look, he's just put his 342 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: head down, he's worked every day, he's gotten better, and 343 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: as he keeps getting better, we're gonna keep giving him more. 344 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: He got a few first team reps, but really was 345 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: the second team right guard after not being with the 346 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: second team at all the first few weeks of camp. 347 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: And I think Drew Forbes has really impressed this coaching staff. Well, 348 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,239 Speaker 1: you know, what he's taking advantage of is an opportunity 349 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: and a little sliver of an opening in a in 350 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: a crack door because Kyle Kalis has been out and 351 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: because Austin Corvitt has essentially been moved to just exclusively 352 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: the backup center, which is fine. Actually looks extremely comfortable. 353 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: It looks more natural at center than he does it guard, 354 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: which is remarkable considering he played tackle in college. But 355 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: Drew's another former tackle who is very much built like 356 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: a guard, who looks more comfortable at guard with each 357 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: rep that he gets. And he's it's so funny because 358 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: he's definitely one of those players who flips a switch. 359 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: He's the nicest guy off the field, and as soon 360 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: as he comes on the field, he plays with violence, 361 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: and that will help you a lot in the interiors 362 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: playing with that type of violence. So it's great to 363 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: see him really improve this camp. All right. Well, in 364 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: our interview of the day, are good friend, Jason Gibbs 365 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: got a few minutes with Hall of Famer Tony Dunge 366 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: to talk Freddie Baker and more. Take it away to 367 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: a first year coach like Freddie Kitchens, I think you 368 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: have to be yourself and build your UM, build your 369 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: brand with the mindset of things that are important to 370 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: you and UM, don't waiver, don't deviate from that. I 371 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: saw a coach nol at the end of his tenure, 372 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: but then I played for Bill Walsh in his first 373 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: year in San Francisco and we won two games. But 374 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: he never deviated from what he wanted to accomplice. The 375 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: message never changed. Eventually they got it. They won super 376 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: Bowl after Super Bowl, So, uh, let them know right 377 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: away who you are, what you expect, and then don't 378 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: do it. What's the biggest challenge going from year one 379 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: a year two for a quarterback like Baker Mayfield, it 380 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: is to really understand that every year is a growing 381 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: process and regardless of the success you had last year, 382 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: you want to be better. And again, being better is 383 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: the small things. It's not the highlight reel sixt yard play, 384 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: it's not the fantastic spin out of a sack, and 385 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, those things help, and they obviously he's got 386 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: talent to do that, but it's the little details of 387 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: doing your job that that's how you're gonna improve and 388 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: that if you look at a guy like Peyton, that's 389 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: where he was so good. Improve those small details every 390 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: year and that's how you get to fifty touchdown passes. Finally, 391 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: a room full of offensive weapons for the on the 392 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: brown side of things, how do you manage you know, 393 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: you had a lot of star players when you were here, 394 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: and managing he goes and making sure that everybody you 395 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: know gets the ball or doesn't get the ball. What 396 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: are what are the goals or what's your mindset that 397 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: you have to have when you're managing all those weapons offensive? 398 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: You know, we had it here, but I learned when 399 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: I got to Pittsburgh. You know, I was a rookie. 400 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: We had nine guys who eventually ended up in the 401 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and we had a lot of offensive 402 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: weaponry there, and uh, every game is not gonna be 403 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: ten catches for every player. It's not gonna be you know, 404 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty yards for Frank o'harris, But when 405 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: we need it, it's got to be there. And the 406 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: most important thing is winning, and that's what you keep 407 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: talking about. You keep drilling in winning, winning, winning, and 408 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: if that becomes the most important thing, then the other 409 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: things take care of themselves. Great job. Give a alright, guys, 410 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: two days. The joint practices are in the books. Let's 411 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: turn our attention to Saturday preseason game number two. Jim, 412 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: what are you looking for? Well, I look for carry 413 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: over now, um you know, to see if this carries 414 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: into the game on Saturday, how they just here and 415 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: how they dominated here. So I'll look for that, um 416 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: I would. I'm I'm interested to see if Kareem Hunt 417 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: gets on the field. And I know it's only for 418 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: the preseason and then there's eight weeks that we have 419 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: to wait for that afterwards, but I am really anxious 420 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: to see him play and get some work in. Yeah, 421 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: so I think that will be really interesting and to 422 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: maybe get a look at how that all works when 423 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Chub is playing and and uh and Kareem Hunt is playing. 424 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: So I look at that and I just look at 425 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: uh once again, you know, seeing the offense maybe not 426 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: in a two minute drive, but more of a just 427 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: a drive, you know, just driving the ball down the field, 428 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: and and that will be interesting for me to watch. 429 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to me, Um. I didn't get much 430 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: of a look at the offense the last couple of 431 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: days to see how Eric Kush plays at game speed. 432 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: But you know, really the game speed thing that's gonna 433 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: be most interesting to me and think I'm gonna be 434 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: watching very closely is the Browns one physically out here 435 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: in the last two days and especially today, but at 436 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: game speed, when these Colts are not going to be 437 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: letting up like maybe they've been taught to let up, 438 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: as that's basically how they've run. Their entire camp is 439 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: a little bit softer than the Browns camp. UH is well, 440 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: the Browns win physically on game day, and especially when 441 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: it comes to these stars, this first quarter is going 442 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: to be the one that I really am just extremely 443 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: excited for, and obviously the rest of the game for 444 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: you know, some of these bubble guys to get their 445 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: chances as well. But I really want to see if 446 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: this defensive line can do as well in the game 447 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: as they did in the practice field today. You know, 448 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: I've got my eye on, obviously the playing time of 449 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: how we're going to see the first team offense. Freddie 450 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: Kitchen said something after practice that that made me maybe 451 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: raise my eyebrows a little bit that maybe they aren't gonna, 452 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, do the gradual progression with the first team 453 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: offense because they got the first team got a lot 454 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: of work out here on the practice field, and I 455 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: maybe this is the game you let the two's out 456 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: there for a really long time and get that really 457 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: good evaluation because you get to Game three and then 458 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: you expect to get a lot of the ones and 459 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: maybe not a lot of the bubble guys. So maybe 460 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: this is the bubble guy game. Maybe this is where 461 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: we see a lot of the the guys in that 462 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: forty five to sixty five man on the three man 463 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: roster range. So you know, keeping eyes on on the 464 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: offensive line, competition, uh, defense it back, So who's gonna 465 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: be these last defensive back? So keep an eye on 466 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: special teams all all these kind of areas because I 467 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: I saw enough from the first team offense, or I 468 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: don't need to see much out of them in this 469 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: preseason game, get me to the dress rehearsal game, and 470 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: then get me the regular season, so I would I 471 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep my eyes on this, the second and 472 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: third team groups out there. I couldn't agree with you more. 473 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: I think that you wanted to get a lot of work. 474 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: He's stressed how important these practices would be. You've got 475 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: to see your starters out there at Ton in competitive 476 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: situations without having to really expose them to significant injury. 477 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: And I think that you might see a very brief 478 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: appearance from them again, and wouldn't surprise me. I do 479 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: want to see that defensive line since we really haven't 480 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: gotten to see them in a game situation, so even 481 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: if it's brief, I want to see that. I want 482 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: to see Mack Wilson how he continues his progress from 483 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: what we saw there, and then, more than anything other 484 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: than staying healthy, I want to see the kickers both 485 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: have to kick a lot of field goals and see 486 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: what happens in a game situation. Ideally they make them all, 487 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: but I want to see how that goes, because I 488 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: think that's right now. The one thing that is the 489 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: most unsettled on this roster that is has a chance 490 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: to play a big factor in winning and losing in 491 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: the regular season. Yeah, you know, it's a great it's 492 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: a great point, um. And also we haven't gotten to 493 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: see them in a pressure situation, you know, in the 494 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: last few days. But they did have a really good 495 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: stretch from the last preseason game all the way up 496 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: to you know now kicking. I mean they've been really 497 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: they've gotten they both come on strong. So we'll see 498 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: what happens, you know, in a game situation here on 499 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: the road. I don't think Joseph has missed and I 500 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: think Cyber. I think Joseph's fifteen and fifteen and Cyber 501 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: it's fourteen and fifteen since the preseason game, which is 502 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: that's what you want to see. Let's bring out the 503 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 1: best in each other. Gentlemen, Thank you so much. This 504 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun here. Hopefully we will see 505 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: something as impressive on Saturday as we saw from this 506 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Colts crew tearing down this training camp facility. I know 507 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: that gym was certainly impressed with what you saw. Have 508 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: your stunted, well, you know, they always have these crews 509 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: that work in arenas and if you have like a 510 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: basketball game and have to switch to the skating to 511 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: the ice, you know, for an NHL game coming in. 512 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: But this crew here at at Coulture, I believe it's unreal, 513 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable, and it's male and female. I have to 514 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: tell you there are spirited, spirited group, more spirited than 515 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: I think that their team was at times these last 516 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: couple of days. Maybe they got a pep talk from 517 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: Petty Kitchens. I don't know. You've got to convert this 518 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: from fields of grass with fence around it to just 519 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: more fields of grass, which right, no shortage of without fence. 520 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you so much, and thank you 521 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: for listening to the best podcast available