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Speaker 2: get you ready for the Steelers at the Indianapolis Colts
Speaker 2: a Saturday kickoff this week, but that doesn't affect our
Speaker 2: Thursday night Nope, kickoff time and Matt, I guess as
Speaker 2: appropriate a spot to begin tonight as any is the
Speaker 2: old NFL constant that sometimes it's not who you play,
Speaker 2: but when you play them. And for the Steelers seven
Speaker 2: and six, getting ready to play the Colts.
Speaker 3: Seven and six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers are coming off losses to the two
Speaker 2: win Arizona Cardinals and the two win New England Patriots
Speaker 2: in a span of.
Speaker 3: Five days last week.
Speaker 2: But the news all good coming out of the South
Speaker 2: Side this week in terms of who is going to
Speaker 2: be available lot. Yeah, last night the Steelers find out
Speaker 2: that TJ. Watt had cleared the concussion protocol and this
Speaker 2: afternoon it was announced that Alex Highsmith has done the same.
Speaker 2: So can you Pikett is out, of course, recovering from
Speaker 2: Michael surgery. Isaac Sayamalu questionable. He hasn't practiced all week,
Speaker 2: but Matt. They've got their tag team edge rushers ready
Speaker 2: to go after Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who the opponent is or what week
Speaker 4: it is. That's obviously huge. It's one of the great
Speaker 4: strengths of the Steelers team. Everyone knows how good Watt
Speaker 4: is and Heismith's having a great year as well. But
Speaker 4: I think it's interesting who the opponent is. I'm two
Speaker 4: young tackles are they're lining up against. It's the second
Speaker 4: year guy, Bernard Raymond on the left side. There's been
Speaker 4: okay this year, but really had a rough week last
Speaker 4: week against the Bengals. Hendrickson a lot of times because
Speaker 4: they were leaving him alone because they had to help
Speaker 4: the right tackle. Rookie named Breake Friedland out of BYU,
Speaker 4: who's a tall, leaner guy. That's a work in progress.
Speaker 4: I don't think they counted on him playing this year.
Speaker 4: So he's gonna need help, as all right tackles do,
Speaker 4: but he's gonna especially need help with Watt. So those
Speaker 4: are great matchups for the Steelers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Branden Smith is the right tackle who's injured. He
Speaker 2: didn't play against the Bengals last Sunday after being injured
Speaker 2: the week before against Tennessee. And also no Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 2: for the Colts. And yeah, I respect Zach Moss as
Speaker 2: a runner, but Jonathan Taylor is an elite runner.
Speaker 4: You know, he's a dynamic, big play you know he are.
Speaker 3: He was ruled out by the Colts today.
Speaker 2: So you know, if you were worried about a tag
Speaker 2: team running attack, well now it's just Zach Moss and
Speaker 2: whoever else the Colts care to give the ball to.
Speaker 2: They did get a little bit of good news, the
Speaker 2: Colts did. Their head coach Shane Steichen said that said
Speaker 2: today he expects cornerback Jude jew Brents will be available.
Speaker 2: He has not played since Week seven, and that's a
Speaker 2: pretty significant piece to a cold secondary that's really young
Speaker 2: on the corners and really experienced its safety position.
Speaker 4: And Brent's is really young. I mean he's a second
Speaker 4: round pick this year six to three. He was for
Speaker 4: me to follow draft. He was Julius. Brent switched his
Speaker 4: name to Juju Kansas Guy, Kansas Kansas State, Kansas, Kansas State, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Kansas State. Okay, big Kansas state. Yeah, yeah, middle of
Speaker 4: the country somewhere. But he's in experience. They're a big
Speaker 4: Cover three team. They are a big Seahawks legion of
Speaker 4: Boom type. So he'll play off the ball and play
Speaker 4: that third. You can test him.
Speaker 2: Jalen Jones seventh round rookie out of Texas A and
Speaker 2: m Is the other corner.
Speaker 4: So two rookie.
Speaker 2: I got a pretty experienced nickel guy and Kenny Moore
Speaker 2: the second.
Speaker 4: But I like more.
Speaker 2: I think, you know for the Steelers that it can't
Speaker 2: be stated often enough, the TJ. Watt factor just in
Speaker 2: terms of having a chance to win. When this guy's
Speaker 2: in the lineup, they have a pretty good chance to win.
Speaker 2: And when they don't, well, here's here's some numbers according
Speaker 2: to our buddies at NFL Research.
Speaker 4: And it's mind boggling. How strong these are?
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty six sixteen and one with what, and they
Speaker 2: allow nineteen point six points a game, one.
Speaker 3: And nine without what?
Speaker 4: Nine and they allow.
Speaker 2: Twenty six point six points a game. And if you
Speaker 2: just want to throw a little more icing on top
Speaker 2: of that cake, with what, Steelers averaging three point three
Speaker 2: sacks a game without them one point four?
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, yards for play everything you look at.
Speaker 2: It's obscratching my head to recall edge rusher that had
Speaker 2: this kind of overall impact.
Speaker 4: I bet there isn't one in Steeler history. I mean
Speaker 4: even Miles Garrett, Michael Parsons, Bosa, all those guys. I
Speaker 4: doubt their splits are that drastic with them on and
Speaker 4: off the field. It's really something.
Speaker 2: NFL research that that thirty six sixteen and one figure
Speaker 2: that's with what in the lineup. Since twenty now, there
Speaker 2: have been a handful of games where he started but
Speaker 2: didn't finish the point where it didn't play a ton
Speaker 2: of snaps like he usually does.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's included, but probably is.
Speaker 4: Like even last year when he came back from injury,
Speaker 4: I wanted to say it was against Indy even I
Speaker 4: didn't think he was himself.
Speaker 3: I think it's right.
Speaker 2: If you look at there's a line of demarcation seventy
Speaker 2: five percent of the defensive snaps or eighty you know,
Speaker 2: something approaching what he normally plays.
Speaker 3: I bet the numbers are even more.
Speaker 4: I bet they're even more drastic, one hundred percent because
Speaker 4: there was a couple of games, or he wasn't a
Speaker 4: dominant player yet, you know, coming back from injury, or
Speaker 4: he left it halfway through the game, or he has
Speaker 4: had sometimes a miss time. Of course, now that's gigantic,
Speaker 4: and you know it's an under reported story. But last
Speaker 4: week when they lost High Smith, it was the one
Speaker 4: time they didn't have Golden healthy either or he was healthy,
Speaker 4: he was scratched because they were shuffling so many linebackers.
Speaker 3: In yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Needed so many guys an inside linebacker and they needed
Speaker 2: those guys to contribute on special teams and Marcus Golden
Speaker 2: doesn't do that. But really, I think part of the
Speaker 2: story last week too, since you went there, you know,
Speaker 2: they started out a Landon Roberts wasn't playing every defensive snap,
Speaker 2: and he wasn't playing in the dime. Michael Walker was
Speaker 2: playing in the dime, and by the second half, that
Speaker 2: stuff was kind of out the window. You didn't see
Speaker 2: a lot of Blake Martinez, you didn't see Mark Robinson.
Speaker 2: You saw Landon Roberts playing all three.
Speaker 4: Where would you be without him at this point? I mean,
Speaker 4: one of the best additions to the team, especially with
Speaker 4: the way the dominance fell and what they need out
Speaker 4: of the guy. Like when they signed him, I thought
Speaker 4: he was gonna be a two down run and plugger,
Speaker 4: you know, part time player, attitude guy, special teamer. But boy,
Speaker 4: I mean, good thing he's around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did not get a designation today. He went
Speaker 2: from did not practice on Tuesday to limited Wednesday to
Speaker 2: a full participant today. No question, will know nothing. He
Speaker 2: appears good to go, and yeah, I'm with you. This
Speaker 2: season would already be in the tank if they didn't
Speaker 2: have him, because you think about losing Cole Holcombe and
Speaker 2: then you think about losing Kwan Alexander and these are
Speaker 2: your loan the inside linebacker in the six defensive backs
Speaker 2: time guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the guy they've.
Speaker 2: Been looking for since Ryan Shazier got hurt and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the Landon Roberts, the guy has filled
Speaker 2: that role that they didn't expect so I guess with
Speaker 2: Roberts and Watt, it's gonna be Indiana's basketball country.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a layup at Lucas Oil Stadium for.
Speaker 4: Nothing to it, and it seems got all their problems solved.
Speaker 4: I'm sure. I do like the matchup overall, though, and
Speaker 4: I do think having nine days to prepare as opposed
Speaker 4: to a short week for the Colts, it could pay off,
Speaker 4: especially from an injury and staminas standpoint. So we'll see.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a crucial game obviously.
Speaker 2: And of course the Steelers coming off of those consecutive
Speaker 2: losses to two win teams. They're also a team that
Speaker 2: has beaten Baltimore, so you know, go figure the Colts
Speaker 2: have beaten Baltimore, that would be their signature win. They
Speaker 2: also have a win over the Texans, who are seven
Speaker 2: and six, but the rest of them in the Indianapolis
Speaker 2: wins matt a couple over Tennessee.
Speaker 4: They had four game winning streak before last week.
Speaker 2: Beat Carolina, beat New England, beat Tampa Bay, and then
Speaker 2: just got undressed in the second half by the Bengals.
Speaker 2: They sure did last Sunday, so.
Speaker 4: I kind of feel like this is a success story
Speaker 4: for the Colts. I mean, if you think about it,
Speaker 4: they had like the fourth pick in the draft, they
Speaker 4: draft Richardson, the quarterback, rookie, head coach. You know, no
Speaker 4: one expected them to be in the playoff hunt, especially
Speaker 4: once the quarterback went down. No one, no one, no one.
Speaker 4: I feel like they're playing with house money. They're understanding themselves,
Speaker 4: they're gaining an identity, and then maybe you throw Richardson
Speaker 4: back in the mix next year and at a piece
Speaker 4: or two, and maybe you start really competing.
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Speaker 2: The Steelers, conversely, so much optimism at the start of
Speaker 2: the year and then they get whacked by San Francisco
Speaker 2: to start things off, and it's been a rollercoaster ride
Speaker 2: ever since. The Ravens win that mentioned was huge, beating Cleveland,
Speaker 2: getting themselves to seven and four somehow despite a bunch
Speaker 2: of injuries. Sure, and I think expectations were starting to
Speaker 2: build again. What do you think the impact has been
Speaker 2: to losing to two win Arizona and two win New England?
Speaker 2: Is that just Hey, it's the nfl Rtually you lose,
Speaker 2: you got to bounce back or is this something that
Speaker 2: is going to take some getting over even inside that
Speaker 2: locker room.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's why I think this game is so crucial.
Speaker 4: I mean, they're really fortunate to be where they are
Speaker 4: in the standings in the playoff picture because it could
Speaker 4: have been a lot worse. Or I think there's got
Speaker 4: to be a lot of regret that if you could
Speaker 4: have won one of those, you'd be sitting there with
Speaker 4: Cleveland right now at eight and five. And it's a
Speaker 4: totally different world. So we shall see. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: really going to test their metal, you know. I mean,
Speaker 4: is this a team that you can count on to
Speaker 4: bounce back? Generally they have been under Tomlin standalone game
Speaker 4: they've had the Colts number over the year, but I
Speaker 4: feel like it's a playoff game.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the preview Mike Pursuda and Matt Williamson
Speaker 2: getting ready for the Steelers in the Indianapolis Colts on
Speaker 2: Saturday in Indy time. Now to welcome the star of
Speaker 2: our show to the show. That would be our Factor back,
Speaker 2: Merril Hodge. Merril, how's it going tonight?
Speaker 5: Well, Mike delayed, so I'm not home, so it could
Speaker 5: be better, but I'm on the show with you babys
Speaker 5: that we're ready to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're going to travel as much as
Speaker 2: you do, you're gonna run into some of these delays
Speaker 2: from time to time.
Speaker 5: There is no doubt. I tell people all the time, listen,
Speaker 5: go NonStop if you can. If you put a delay,
Speaker 5: if you put a connection there, one or two, one
Speaker 5: of them is going to be messed up and I'm
Speaker 5: living it right now.
Speaker 2: Well, uh, no offense, but better you than me. I
Speaker 2: just spent last weekend up in Foxborough watching the Army
Speaker 2: Navy game from Gillette Stadium, and I flew from Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: connected in Philly to Boston on the way up, and
Speaker 2: the same thing, same thing coming back, and everything fell
Speaker 2: into place like it never does. I guess that's because
Speaker 2: you know, my heart was in the right place going
Speaker 2: to the Army Navy game, So the powers that be,
Speaker 2: I guess made sure that I had smooth travels.
Speaker 3: But man, that was a good time. Have you ever
Speaker 3: been to one of those?
Speaker 5: I had not, listen, I've turned it down. I can't
Speaker 5: tell me. I just haven't been able to go. But
Speaker 5: I've always wanted to go to that game. Is I'm
Speaker 5: sure that was an experience.
Speaker 2: Put it I was about my eighth or ninth career one.
Speaker 2: Put it on your bucket list.
Speaker 5: It's uh, it.
Speaker 3: Is an unbelievable day. The game is the icing on
Speaker 3: the cake, but the whole day is special. Uh.
Speaker 2: Not that anybody who wants to find out about the
Speaker 2: Colts and Steelers cares too much about that. So uh,
Speaker 2: let's get to the heart of the matter, the sky
Speaker 2: is falling here in Pittsburgh. They lost to the two
Speaker 2: win Cardinals, they lost to the two win Patriots. Life
Speaker 2: as we know it is over. How is the team
Speaker 2: responding to this? I mean, we we've heard what players
Speaker 2: and coaches have had to say. But in that locker
Speaker 2: room and in each guy's heart of hearts, are they
Speaker 2: focused on next game? You know, forget the last one,
Speaker 2: win or lose on to the next one. Or do
Speaker 2: you think there's a hangover that they're going to have
Speaker 2: to cure before Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, Mike, I talked a little bit about
Speaker 5: it on the morning the DD Morning Show, and and
Speaker 5: I think this game will be a telling tell of
Speaker 5: what that locker room is about. Because I can't tell
Speaker 5: you exactly what the locker room is, I can tell
Speaker 5: you there's one of two things that are going on
Speaker 5: in that locker room. There is a certain sense of
Speaker 5: urgency and professionalism and commitment that you know, and you're
Speaker 5: disturbed that you've lost your to games and you're still
Speaker 5: in the thick of things and this game's vital or
Speaker 5: you quit. You know, it's like you know, there's there's
Speaker 5: no shot now, and you're gonna find out who those
Speaker 5: players are. Let's hope you Let's hope there's none of
Speaker 5: those guys that exist. But that can be the reality
Speaker 5: of where a player sits right now. For and for
Speaker 5: for me, this is from a coaching perspective, this is
Speaker 5: this is one of those great games of evaluation to
Speaker 5: find out really the character of your team and the
Speaker 5: character of your players. I think they have good people
Speaker 5: on that in that locker room for the most part,
Speaker 5: you know, so I expect them to respond in a
Speaker 5: positive manner. But you know, I'm not in that locker room,
Speaker 5: and I can't I can't speak two certainty that that
Speaker 5: is going to happen. I can just tell you those
Speaker 5: two things could be happening.
Speaker 6: In a locker room with and in a lot of
Speaker 6: locker rooms in situations like this, and those are one
Speaker 6: of the two outcomes that can come from from an
Speaker 6: overall mental and preparation aspect.
Speaker 2: I would think that circumstances got to help in terms
Speaker 2: of yeah, they had great chances at home to beat
Speaker 2: teams that came acrosser stadium with two wins, but it's
Speaker 2: not like there's one week left and now they need
Speaker 2: five things to happen to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: There's still the sixth seed. They still have it right
Speaker 3: in front of them.
Speaker 2: You know, you go through the Colts on Saturday and
Speaker 2: then Bengals a week from Saturday, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: everything's back to where it was, you know, in terms
Speaker 2: of a positive out look before the Cardinals and Patriots game.
Speaker 5: Right completely a great Mike, And I do believe, like,
Speaker 5: if you give me, like, which one would I favor?
Speaker 5: I favor what you just said. I think that locker room,
Speaker 5: there's resiliency being built here and listen, as bad as
Speaker 5: has been and there's this is where you really require
Speaker 5: your team to look at itself and do a little
Speaker 5: bit of self reflection. What kind of changes need to
Speaker 5: be made? If we do this collectively, then we're going
Speaker 5: to be a much different team when we go into Indannapolis.
Speaker 5: And to still be in a position where we control
Speaker 5: our destiny, you know, is a thing that you may
Speaker 5: not have envisioned you would have a after lose those
Speaker 5: two games. So I think you're spot on. You know,
Speaker 5: you lose those two games, and as probably as depression
Speaker 5: demralizing as it is, you still have opportunity and you
Speaker 5: still have games ahead of you and you still can
Speaker 5: be where you you where you desire to be, and
Speaker 5: that is in the playoff race. When it's all done.
Speaker 2: Steeles is sticking with Mitch Trubisky at quarterback. I'm kind
Speaker 2: of glad they are. And Uh, I really took to
Speaker 2: heart what you had to say. Since we're plugging the
Speaker 2: DV morning show a second ago, let's do it again.
Speaker 2: Uh boy, if nothing else, he really competed in that
Speaker 2: Patriots game. And if they get that kind of want
Speaker 2: to and that kind of get after it, Uh, they're
Speaker 2: gonna be okay in Indy because, Uh, to the to
Speaker 2: the bitter end, I like everybody else, I wish he
Speaker 2: would have hit George Pickens on third and two, or
Speaker 2: failing that, I wish he would have hit Deontae Johnson
Speaker 2: on fourth and two. But uh, mister Whisky maybe one
Speaker 2: completion away from having a real rags to riches night
Speaker 2: against New England.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, I've been studying mister Whisky since he came out.
Speaker 5: I've been very very fair of what kind of quarterback
Speaker 5: he really is. And you know the one thing that
Speaker 5: I saw on that in that day when they were
Speaker 5: you cheer information and Rudolf and trying to get him
Speaker 5: on the field and chide you know already had I'm
Speaker 5: interception and what was called back? And I believe this
Speaker 5: was right after the second interception Pals, which was not
Speaker 5: his fault. I was just like, you know what this
Speaker 5: that is probably one of the hardest things to do
Speaker 5: in sports, to walk out in front of sixty seventy
Speaker 5: thousand people who don't want you on the field, are
Speaker 5: cheering for somebody else and chanting for somebody else, and
Speaker 5: to persevere through that and then play really actually pretty
Speaker 5: good based on all of the things that were going on.
Speaker 5: Just show me a lot about like who he is,
Speaker 5: the character that the kid has, and you know that
Speaker 5: that I mean, if there's ever somebody that you know,
Speaker 5: I just look at players and teams. You know, I
Speaker 5: don't get mostly attached to anything because especially if I'm
Speaker 5: on valuation aspect, you start doing that, you make a
Speaker 5: lot of better mistakes. But then I tell you what
Speaker 5: I'm pulling for him. I'm pulling for him to play
Speaker 5: well and give and be able to play his best.
Speaker 5: You know how many of her games he got to
Speaker 5: play before Kenny Pickett can come back, and I would
Speaker 5: love to see the light shine on him based on
Speaker 5: how he fought through that, the way he played and
Speaker 5: the way he can't play there, there's still you know,
Speaker 5: good football in Mitchisky, and I hope that they get
Speaker 5: get it out of him starting this Sunday Saturday.
Speaker 2: Goofy week with the Thursday night game against New England.
Speaker 2: The theory from Mike Tomlin and others is that more
Speaker 2: normal preparation will allow Trubisky to play better. Uh, Mike
Speaker 2: Tomlin thought he warmed up to it against the Patriots.
Speaker 2: He was playing better at the end of the game
Speaker 2: than he was at the start of the game, and
Speaker 2: Tomlin is expecting more improvement still in this Colts game.
Speaker 2: I would have to agree with that as well. We
Speaker 2: have seen this guy play some some good football for
Speaker 2: the Steelers, not consistently, but we've seen it in him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that this defense you know that he is
Speaker 5: going up against, You know that they're they're they're a
Speaker 5: mixed bag. They're they're they're an interesting They're an interesting
Speaker 5: watch because there's moments where you know it's the defense
Speaker 5: that you thought that they were going to have. You
Speaker 5: know that they've had the last couple of years, and
Speaker 5: they show flashes of that and then that then it disappears.
Speaker 5: I mean the the Bengals exposed them in the quick
Speaker 5: past game, in the screen game. I mean they they
Speaker 5: they stung them a lot in that environment, and they
Speaker 5: they're able to run the ball on them. They actually,
Speaker 5: you know, end up controlling the entire environment of the
Speaker 5: entire game based on how their offense played so well. Listen,
Speaker 5: they are on the custom of things too. You know,
Speaker 5: if they can't afford other loss, if they continue to win,
Speaker 5: there's hope for them. And so you know, you would
Speaker 5: could argue the playoffs have begun in a lot of scenarios.
Speaker 5: So it's an interesting match up from from just that
Speaker 5: side of the ball, you know, Watson, mister Buski and
Speaker 5: Han's ability to play and build off of that second half.
Speaker 5: I do think you're right by that. I do think
Speaker 5: that he continues to build in and has a good
Speaker 5: game and plays the way that Mitch has a capability
Speaker 5: of plan.
Speaker 2: Before we get into the Colts with a little more detail,
Speaker 2: you mentioned the past to Pat Fryarmuth that was intercepted,
Speaker 2: not Trubisky's fault. Now, the first one there was a
Speaker 2: past interference penalty, but it was committed by the corner
Speaker 2: who ended up intercepting the ball on the intended target,
Speaker 2: So I think the penalty resulted in the interception.
Speaker 3: What did you see on the throat of Friarmuth?
Speaker 5: Well, okay, this is where okay, but what is the
Speaker 5: There's three things that you look for a quarterback. You know,
Speaker 5: a good processor, he's accurate, and he has anticipation. Well,
Speaker 5: that throw right there is about anticipation. You got to
Speaker 5: trust your guy because you're throwing it to a void
Speaker 5: and that boid oftentimes as a defender over the top
Speaker 5: or underneath or both, and in that case it was both.
Speaker 5: And when Friarmuth made the plant to come inside, he
Speaker 5: has to commit to that. He can't backpedal because he
Speaker 5: stopped in his backpedal, which I've ever seen a route
Speaker 5: like that? Was the anter seen a route like that?
Speaker 5: So you know he put it where it actually it
Speaker 5: was supposed to be. If he doesn't catch it, if
Speaker 5: doesn't catch it, it's not their except that's a fact.
Speaker 5: And you're right. The guy who got the pass interference,
Speaker 5: he actually grabbed the hips. I can't remember who the
Speaker 5: wide receiver was and pulled himself in the front. So
Speaker 5: you know, Mitch really from an overall decision making an
Speaker 5: accuracy aspect, did not throw. I mean they were not
Speaker 5: his fault, you know. Now, that was one that they dropped.
Speaker 5: It was a bad throw, but he got away with it.
Speaker 5: But the one that really killed them well though, was
Speaker 5: that that one when fireman should have been where he
Speaker 5: should have been and that therefore it wouldn't have been
Speaker 5: an interception.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then a long retired in a short field
Speaker 2: touchdown and your two scores down, and that first half
Speaker 2: continued to spiral. That screen game that you referenced, Cincinnati
Speaker 2: hitting the Colts with a fifty four yard touchdown to
Speaker 2: the rookiello out of Illinois, Chase Brown. He had another
Speaker 2: screen that went for twenty yards. Joe Mixon had one
Speaker 2: that was a huge play. What did the forty five yards?
Speaker 2: A little dump down? What did you what did you
Speaker 2: see working for the Bengals there or maybe not working
Speaker 2: for the Colts?
Speaker 5: Well, they actually called the screen. And you know this
Speaker 5: is about tendency too, because I would think that the
Speaker 5: Steelers would try to do some of this and that
Speaker 5: haven't been a very good screen team that they just
Speaker 5: if timing is off from a from an offensive line
Speaker 5: perspective or back perspective, they just they haven't been a
Speaker 5: real good sink. But even though that's case, I still
Speaker 5: think he got to try to run it on him
Speaker 5: because you can get him in a man situation. So
Speaker 5: the touchdown one was a man situation and they were
Speaker 5: able to get good position on the man, the guy
Speaker 5: who was covering the back out of the backfield. They
Speaker 5: got him blocked. Well, once they got him blocked, that
Speaker 5: was it. You know. He had to do was hit
Speaker 5: his head on the goal post. And then the other
Speaker 5: one was just a better executed one, but it was
Speaker 5: against zone. But they they so they did both things
Speaker 5: against their defense and they didn't handle it very well.
Speaker 5: And I just kind of believe that you got to
Speaker 5: try those things when you see a team that struggled
Speaker 5: with them. And I went to the other the thing
Speaker 5: the Titans, even I'm watched them against the Titans, and
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think, I think they've gotten a couple
Speaker 5: of times like that too, and they start to the
Speaker 5: problems in the back end at times. They didn't given
Speaker 5: up big plays from it. So from a studying perspective.
Speaker 5: I think you got to try to challenge those things.
Speaker 5: See if they buttoned it up, and the said danny ju.
Speaker 3: What also struck me while watching that game? Merrill?
Speaker 2: Uh, this is more of a flow momentum kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But it was fourteen to nothing Bengals early, and then
Speaker 2: the Colts got back in it. They scored a touchdown,
Speaker 2: and then I think the second play after that, there
Speaker 2: was a bad pass that the tight end reached to
Speaker 2: try to catch and he ended up basically handing it
Speaker 2: to the Colts linebacker Ronnie Harrison, and he got to
Speaker 2: pick six out of it, and then they went for
Speaker 2: two and tied it because they had missed their point
Speaker 2: after the first time. So in a matter of seconds,
Speaker 2: the Colts came back from fourteen to nothing down to
Speaker 2: fourteen fourteen going into the half.
Speaker 3: And then in the.
Speaker 2: Third quarter, Cincinnati gets the ball, drives for touchdown, Colts
Speaker 2: go five and out. Uh, Cincinnati gets the ball, drives
Speaker 2: for a touchdown, Colts.
Speaker 3: Go three and out.
Speaker 2: Cincinnati gets the ball and punts, but the Colts muffed
Speaker 2: the return and the Bengals get another field goal. Now,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we're early fourth quarter and it's
Speaker 2: over again. There was that game was hanging in the
Speaker 2: balance and since he went out and seized it, and
Speaker 2: the Colts just never had any pushback after that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they got some pressure and the guy a
Speaker 5: pick actually from a sad pick. There was there down
Speaker 5: score the Colts for downa scoring territory, and that to
Speaker 5: me was a devastating one for him because you get nothing.
Speaker 5: The Bengals get the ball back well, and you look
Speaker 5: at when you look at that game, you know, Mike,
Speaker 5: something stood out as those tackles had some problems and
Speaker 5: they really get some pressures and creak some of those
Speaker 5: issues with their their outside guys. They have good outside
Speaker 5: guys where the Steelers have good outside guys, which actually
Speaker 5: is what I think the Patriots did is such a
Speaker 5: good job of you know, they were well equipped at
Speaker 5: those tackles. Overall. When they had to block Ty Smith
Speaker 5: over walk, they actually played really well. They played good
Speaker 5: I think they've played all year, and when they wanted
Speaker 5: to try to take a shot down the field, they
Speaker 5: made sure that they chipped them or helped out a
Speaker 5: little bit. And it was tough. It was tough sledding
Speaker 5: for both those guys. All night. I think that this
Speaker 5: could be a game where those two guys may be
Speaker 5: able to wreck some plays and may possibly be the
Speaker 5: difference in creating a turnover, because if you can get
Speaker 5: away with the turnover in a game and not give
Speaker 5: it up, and the chances of you winning game are
Speaker 5: just so significant in the NFL, and that would be
Speaker 5: where I think an advantage going into this matchup the
Speaker 5: Steelers would have as the stuff that they can do
Speaker 5: from the edge perspective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, particularly that right side looked like Brayden Smith, who
Speaker 2: is out again for Indianapolis. He was replaced against the
Speaker 2: Bengals by Blake Freeland, a rook he out a BYU
Speaker 2: fourth rounder. He appeared to really struggle against Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was a guy that you actually studied
Speaker 5: really well well coming out, you know. Just he's a
Speaker 5: he's an athletic kid, you know, but he has massive
Speaker 5: problems with people who who can do some type of
Speaker 5: inside move, you know. I think so, and both Highmith
Speaker 5: and wat have all kinds of moves, and they can
Speaker 5: definitely from from how we evaluated him and his his
Speaker 5: problem and his biggest weakness can expose that and get after.
Speaker 2: That statistically the Colts don't stop the run. Well, you
Speaker 2: mentioned Cincinnati had success and the Bengals have not been
Speaker 2: running it well this year. What did you see not
Speaker 2: happening for the Steelers in that Patriots game? Because they
Speaker 2: had run together three four five games in a row
Speaker 2: where the running game was really effective, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden.
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick decided to take that away.
Speaker 5: I guess well, you know, actually, Mike, if you remember,
Speaker 5: you know, if you just watched their defense, that would
Speaker 5: look like a Patriot team, you know, and then you
Speaker 5: had to watch their offense and you're like, oh gosh,
Speaker 5: this is any close to like, you know, Bill Belchi,
Speaker 5: but the defensive side that then they've always been like
Speaker 5: that the entire year. Unfortunately, their offense has just been
Speaker 5: so out of whack. That's excuse everything. But I'm telling what.
Speaker 5: In the trenches, they've been unbelievable. On the perimeter, they've
Speaker 5: been below that box and their safety is play man.
Speaker 5: That's yeah, it's tough sledding. I mean, everybody's played against
Speaker 5: a struggle, so you know what they what the biggest
Speaker 5: issue is, they just couldn't control the lines of careers.
Speaker 5: They couldn't get any movement. But where they really eroded
Speaker 5: is are tight ends just got whipped. I mean they
Speaker 5: just got whipped. Individually, they got with collectively got they
Speaker 5: got whipped. They couldn't handle thirty three. Thirty three abused
Speaker 5: them so they couldn't get anything on the edge, couldn't
Speaker 5: get anything started. And when you do that, it's just hard.
Speaker 5: It's really like, unless you're really a dynamic confidence and
Speaker 5: you have a bunch of phases you're really good at,
Speaker 5: then it's going to really affect a team like the Steelers,
Speaker 5: which needs the running game to go well. And once
Speaker 5: that goes well, then the passive game does become a
Speaker 5: more potent effect. But you have to rely on the
Speaker 5: pass the game. They're just not as they're not as consistent,
Speaker 5: they're not as dynamic when when they get that running
Speaker 5: game taken away from them. So you'll show us a
Speaker 5: game that they are going to try to get that
Speaker 5: back on track, and they should have they should have
Speaker 5: the ability to do that. Some of the challenges of
Speaker 5: the Colts do deal with or have dealt with. The
Speaker 5: Steelers do very well. So unless there's some the BACA
Speaker 5: I can't keep coming, I think they'll be able to
Speaker 5: run the ball. I run the ball effectively against them.
Speaker 2: What are your impressions of Minshew? He's had some nice
Speaker 2: runs of success in the league. Yeah, he's had some struggles.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: When I watch him play good or bad, he looks
Speaker 2: to me like a guy who thinks I got this,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let it rip.
Speaker 5: Well, I will tell you this. He's a he's a
Speaker 5: very good player. He's a very very good player. Now
Speaker 5: what what what really probably keeps him from being what?
Speaker 5: Like you had talked about elite? You know, like this
Speaker 5: is that a game? I'll tell you what. They they
Speaker 5: had a play design. They have the guy wide open
Speaker 5: and he underthrows it and bounces off the defender's head.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, now that he in every game I watched, uh,
Speaker 5: Gardner don't play in that game, He's made some type
Speaker 5: of strokes like that, where man, he just hasn't been
Speaker 5: consistent enough and made the big throws that matter. Now
Speaker 5: that doesn't that doesn't mean he can't because in an
Speaker 5: overtime game against the Titans, he did. He's he made
Speaker 5: the throw to win the game for him. So he
Speaker 5: does enough to scare it. He processes things well he could.
Speaker 5: He functions well. I mean he's a really really good player.
Speaker 5: He's just got a really elite player. From the perspective,
Speaker 5: he's gonna I like to pla those role, those critical
Speaker 5: plays that like the Joe Burrows maker of Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 5: has made. He just he misses just enough of those
Speaker 5: that he misses going over the edge. But he'll do enough. Danny,
Speaker 5: did you sleep on him or don't think you've got
Speaker 5: a problem. You got a problem on his hands because
Speaker 5: he knows how to function in this league, knows how
Speaker 5: to play in this league. And hew York straight that
Speaker 5: offense very well too, So that's the other thing that
Speaker 5: you have to really be concerned with.
Speaker 2: They do a ton of RPO stuff, Merrill, but he
Speaker 2: doesn't end up carrying the ball very much.
Speaker 3: Is that just window dressing?
Speaker 5: Well, I think that's far of his window dressing because
Speaker 5: you could tell that he he don't use his legs
Speaker 5: and get out of stuff. And you can't sleep on
Speaker 5: him because he can make some place doing that. But
Speaker 5: you can tell that as Nisporte, you know, with the
Speaker 5: RPO action, I think the the the p in r
Speaker 5: P O is a high, bigger highlight than the R. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he'd rather, he'd rather do the P versus.
Speaker 2: Or somebody else is doing the RD. He's gonna fake
Speaker 2: the handoff and then give the guy the ball. He's
Speaker 2: not He's not necessarily gonna keep it and uh run
Speaker 2: quarterback or anything like that. Merril Uh, I got nothing
Speaker 2: else for you. I'm not sure what to make of
Speaker 2: this game. What do you think happens?
Speaker 5: I'll tell you this. My has actually been a tough
Speaker 5: one for me too, just based on because I've seen
Speaker 5: the Colts be so good.
Speaker 2: They are very much like the Steelers seven and six,
Speaker 2: and and they could they could probably beat a really
Speaker 2: good team, and they could probably lose to a not
Speaker 2: so good team.
Speaker 5: I'm still with you. And so let's just say it's
Speaker 5: a clean game. And I would say a clean game
Speaker 5: there's no turnovers. I think the difference really could come
Speaker 5: with the Sewers ability to run the football, and then
Speaker 5: there are our edge guys against their their issues on
Speaker 5: the tackle. I think that's where it works come out
Speaker 5: to favor the Steels now. I think it's something that
Speaker 5: to mitigate our pressure, like like the Patriots did, and
Speaker 5: they neutralize the running game in some fashion, you know,
Speaker 5: then then the Colts have a better chance to win
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see that happening.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna go with your first theory
Speaker 2: and hope the Steelers find a way to uh. If
Speaker 2: it's a hockey game and they pick three stars afterward,
Speaker 2: it's Najie Harris, TJ.
Speaker 3: Watt, and Alex Highsmith in some order.
Speaker 5: I like it. I like.
Speaker 3: Meryl. Great stuff.
Speaker 2: We will look forward to talking to you again. Uh
Speaker 2: next week before the Steelers take on the Bengals.
Speaker 5: You've got a big dog.
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Speaker 3: Matt, Traditionally, this is the point of the program where.
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Speaker 3: It's all about the benefits.
Speaker 2: I'm fast approaching the point, if I'm not there already,
Speaker 2: where I can't really identify anything to expect from the
Speaker 2: football team with a Steelers game, and the Steelers in particular.
Speaker 3: So I'll let you lead off. What do you expect
Speaker 3: Saturday at Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 4: I mean, these last two losses were brutal and they
Speaker 4: deserve to both. I mean I thought they were the
Speaker 4: inferior team, but I think this sets up well for them.
Speaker 4: I mean teams are running on the Colts. I think
Speaker 4: that they're more of a finesse defense that if you
Speaker 4: can bring out big personnel and really feature your running backs,
Speaker 4: I think you can push them around. I think we
Speaker 4: talked about in the first segment. The edge matchup is
Speaker 4: huge in this game. Both these quarterbacks are mistake prone
Speaker 4: or a little loose with the football, which is a
Speaker 4: big determining factor here. But I also think those corners
Speaker 4: on the outside are somewhat of a liability for the Colts.
Speaker 4: I think Porter matches up on Pittman very well. I'm
Speaker 4: sure he'll catch his balls, but I think in style
Speaker 4: of play he should hang with him in contested catches
Speaker 4: and physicality quite well. I think the Steelers are in
Speaker 4: pretty good shape here just from the style of fight,
Speaker 4: and I think that was lost a little bit with
Speaker 4: the Patriots. I mean, the Patriots are everyone knew that
Speaker 4: game was going to be very, very low scoring. He
Speaker 4: overreacted to that. A thirty point over under or whatever
Speaker 4: it was. But boy they're stay and a half. But
Speaker 4: that's was it. At times it dipped below that. But
Speaker 4: there's the Patriots style of play I think is much
Speaker 4: get more difficult on the Steelers than the cult style
Speaker 4: of play and culture more talented, but sometimes styles make fights.
Speaker 2: I'll go for some low hanging fruits. Since I got
Speaker 2: to pick something, I think TJ. Watt is going to
Speaker 2: drastically impact this game.
Speaker 3: This just in.
Speaker 2: It's not a bold prediction, but given what he had
Speaker 2: to say recently about the leagues got something against me,
Speaker 2: you know, the lack of penalties that are called on
Speaker 2: these edge rushers, and boy, it wasn't an interesting to hear.
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett kind of.
Speaker 2: I didn't second the notion he was complaining after a
Speaker 2: Brown's victory over the Jaguars.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's gone, you know, and they're trying to protect
Speaker 4: the quarterback.
Speaker 3: He called it a travesty. Yeah, you know what had the.
Speaker 2: The concussion concerns and the injury issue the last game.
Speaker 2: I think he is gonna and I think with the
Speaker 2: team backed into a corner of the way it is,
Speaker 2: if I got to pick one guy to come out swinging,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick TJ.
Speaker 3: Watt.
Speaker 4: I think he mass tracking the dome, gets a rookie
Speaker 4: right tackle, and it sets up really well.
Speaker 2: I think he impacts this game. But I wanted to
Speaker 2: go back to that New England game because Merrill uh
Speaker 2: talked about.
Speaker 3: This a lot.
Speaker 2: Uh you know, the underrating, if you will, of the
Speaker 2: New England defense and people just looking at the record
Speaker 2: and thinking, Okay, this is a terrible football team. Well
Speaker 2: it was probably coming to Pittsburgh. New England had been
Speaker 2: a terrible offensive.
Speaker 4: Team, but then they were a terrible passing attack.
Speaker 2: That defense was really really good, and the Steelers struggled
Speaker 2: with it, and I was curious your take. I've been
Speaker 2: kind of on an island based on who I work
Speaker 2: with in the mornings here at DDE and from what
Speaker 2: people have let me know on Twitter.
Speaker 3: I always appreciate that. By the way, I'm sure it
Speaker 3: was all positive.
Speaker 2: I had no problem with the plays they called on
Speaker 2: third and two and fourth and two at the end
Speaker 2: of that Patriots game. I wish they would have executed
Speaker 2: them better. I wish they would have completed one of
Speaker 2: those passes. Pickens was open, Trubisky missed them. Deontay Johnson
Speaker 2: wasn't wide open, but he was open. Matt I've been
Speaker 2: watching this team play all year, and it has frustrated
Speaker 2: me way more often than not. Their conservative approach to
Speaker 2: getting the ball over.
Speaker 3: The goal line.
Speaker 2: To me, if you can find single coverage outside and
Speaker 2: take a shot to a guy who should be one
Speaker 2: of your best players on offense, go for it.
Speaker 3: Man, throw the ball, win the game right there.
Speaker 2: They if they try to get the first down, maybe
Speaker 2: they get it. Then you got to try to get
Speaker 2: another one. Then you got to make the field goal.
Speaker 2: Then a bunch of stuff has to happen in overtime
Speaker 2: for you to win the game. I am not going
Speaker 2: to criticize them for going for the victory as they did.
Speaker 4: How'd you see the end of the game differently? To'd
Speaker 4: be very honest with you. So I'm sitting there watching
Speaker 4: this thing and there's like two oh six on the
Speaker 4: clock or something like that. Third down and two, as
Speaker 4: you mentioned, I said, Wow, that's a gift. You can
Speaker 4: run the football here because the clock's gonna stop. You're
Speaker 4: gonna get a lighter box. They're afraid to allow the
Speaker 4: big play. I'll bet every dollar I owned that Belichick
Speaker 4: would have ran the ball there. You know that that's
Speaker 4: a gift. I think he's the best game manager in
Speaker 4: the league. And that's a concern and worry I have
Speaker 4: about the Tomlin led teams in terms of game management,
Speaker 4: clock management. Now, I would have absolutely ran the ball
Speaker 4: on third and two, and I think you get it
Speaker 4: and move the chains and everything's fine. On fourth and two.
Speaker 3: They did have a bunch of negative plays running the ball.
Speaker 4: They did, they weren't. I mean, it's the toughest run
Speaker 4: defense in the league. I mean, I think that has
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 2: That's just you an agreement. It's no gimme that you
Speaker 2: convertim running.
Speaker 4: No, But I think to take it off the table
Speaker 4: was crazy considering the clock aspect of it.
Speaker 3: All because he had the free stoppage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, don't worry about the Clock's your friend at
Speaker 4: that point. Now, my take on the fourth down play
Speaker 4: was Belichick. Because he's Belichick. I'm gonna give him the
Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt. And we've talked about this for
Speaker 4: weeks on here, often with Merrill. Steelers need better answers
Speaker 4: for blitz, and I think Belichick left his best blitz
Speaker 4: on the table going when I need it most, I
Speaker 4: have my best blitz, and the Steelers didn't have a
Speaker 4: hot route I answer, and just kind of had to
Speaker 4: chuck it up and hope for the best. And I
Speaker 4: think that was a schematic advantage that he knew he
Speaker 4: had all along. When I need it most, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: pull out my best blitz.
Speaker 3: Still, I won all one with Deontae Johnson.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, and that's that's fine.
Speaker 3: You know, the closer to him, you might get a catch,
Speaker 3: you might get a flag.
Speaker 4: It's still not a high percentage play, no, but you know,
Speaker 4: but it could have paid off huge And we'll be
Speaker 4: singing a totally different story right now.
Speaker 2: And it's for a team that has struggled to score touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I just can't in good conscience rip them for trying
Speaker 2: to score a touchdown or at least get the ball.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I like the way you phrased it with then sniffing
Speaker 3: distance of the goal line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been.
Speaker 3: Sideways and not score and not win exactly.
Speaker 4: At least I do like your approach to it. That's
Speaker 4: we've been critical of this team. You're not aggressive enough,
Speaker 4: you're not trying to hit the big play, and when
Speaker 4: they do, then we're mad at them also, you know,
Speaker 4: just because it didn't happen.
Speaker 3: So now fast forward to US Saturday.
Speaker 2: Will it be a more traditional Steeler looking type game
Speaker 2: where because Indianapolis is tied for twenty six.
Speaker 3: In run defense.
Speaker 2: I think so do you just kind of shove it
Speaker 2: down their throats on the road and gradually grind this
Speaker 2: game to dust, or do you think well, Mike Thomains
Speaker 2: said he expects Mitch Trubisky to be better better preparation
Speaker 2: this week. He's got a little more time in the saddle,
Speaker 2: you know, back as the starter. Do you throw it
Speaker 2: a little more and and keep the pedal down or
Speaker 2: do you revert back to some of the ways we
Speaker 2: saw them win prior to the last couple.
Speaker 4: I'd say more control passing. I know this isn't gonna
Speaker 4: light people, you know, a fire with optimism, but I
Speaker 4: think it's more like end of Roethlisberger passing. Just quick
Speaker 4: hitters against cover three zone stuff, move the chains, bring
Speaker 4: out a lot of heavy personnel and push around. But
Speaker 4: is a fast athletic defense. But it's not a real
Speaker 4: physical one like the like the Patriots. I mean, I
Speaker 4: think you have a trench advantage actually in terms of
Speaker 4: size and physicality.
Speaker 2: Merrill seems very impressiles what the Bengals did getting the
Speaker 2: ball to the running backs.
Speaker 3: The screen game in particularly see the.
Speaker 2: Big Day or a Big Player too from Najie Harris
Speaker 2: and or Jalen Warren.
Speaker 3: Yes, in the passing game.
Speaker 4: Lawley and I the Drive have been talking about that
Speaker 4: all week, that it should be a very running back
Speaker 4: centric offensive game plan, run and pass.
Speaker 3: Minshew.
Speaker 2: Last thing, I can't remember if we were talking off
Speaker 2: the air, you mentioned this already, but I like his swagger.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you think he's kind of a Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 2: type of.
Speaker 4: Guess, I absolutely do. I think he'll last in this
Speaker 4: league a long time. He'll be a spot starter. You
Speaker 4: can win with them. Never is going to light the
Speaker 4: world on fire, but he'll put the ball in harm's way.
Speaker 4: I mean good and bad.
Speaker 3: You know, you use the word.
Speaker 2: I forget who we were talking about on one of
Speaker 2: our prior shows, but you said not bashful.
Speaker 3: That was Jake browning Jake Brown.
Speaker 4: He's not bashful either, But Gardner Minshew is definitely not play.
Speaker 3: Quarterback and be bashful. Can you and for me and
Speaker 3: get anywhere? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think that's you hit your head on the ceiling
Speaker 4: doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at some point you gotta let it rip and
Speaker 2: trust you guys, trust yourself.
Speaker 4: Appreciate it too, you know, like I don't want a
Speaker 4: bashful quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so we we shall see that is going
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