Speaker 1: Boy, it's Boston. Robert opening up another episode of the
Speaker 1: and Drew Tight Bodcayst. Wow, that was incredible. I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try my American accent now. I hope that's
Speaker 1: not offensive to anybody. I'm I'm Robert Evans. This is
Speaker 1: the first and only Boston based podcast Behind the Best,
Speaker 1: more like Behind the Master's like like Massachusetts. It somehow
Speaker 1: keeps getting worse. I thought that was pretty good. I
Speaker 1: thought that was pretty good. I would be more offended
Speaker 1: if I actually liked Boston, which I doubt so. God,
Speaker 1: it's so bad that I started to my whole face
Speaker 1: is right, and I've teared up. No. You see a
Speaker 1: lot of the times we ignore the reddit when we
Speaker 1: disagree with it, But today the subreddits filled with Bostonians
Speaker 1: saying my accent is perfect. So I have decided to
Speaker 1: take that as a mandate to continue speaking in a
Speaker 1: Boston accent. Well, everybody, this is Behind the Bastards. It's
Speaker 1: a podcast bad people tell you all about. Oh, I
Speaker 1: have a Jamie Loftis text that says Butcher Jack Tommy,
Speaker 1: They're on their way through Deadpool DVDs that you like
Speaker 1: throwing stars if you do not stop the Boston accent. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, Jamie is not really from Boston because she's
Speaker 1: from She's from She's from Huavad and Bracton. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: don't consider that Baston where I'm from, which is I
Speaker 1: don't know the parts of Boston. Look, this, this joke
Speaker 1: was always going to run into the limitation of me
Speaker 1: not knowing anything about Boston. The Liberty Bell. I'm from
Speaker 1: the Liberty Bell. So yeah, that's as Boston as it gets.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they have a really shitty basketball team.
Speaker 1: I've heard that about Boston from Bostonians. Yeah. Um, anyway,
Speaker 1: this is this is behind the Bastards. We are. We
Speaker 1: are heading into veering into part three of our our
Speaker 1: epic podcast on Andrew Tate that I and all of
Speaker 1: you were cruelly forced to make because he suddenly, very
Speaker 1: suddenly became extremely relevant. Um, and all of all of this,
Speaker 1: all of our accents, all of our cross talk, is
Speaker 1: an attempt to distract ourselves from the fact that we
Speaker 1: unfortunately have to learn a lot more about Andrew Tate
Speaker 1: and and Sophie. I. I know I'm about to force
Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible quantity of Andrew Tate videos are editor
Speaker 1: Ian Johnson, our editor Prints Kickboxing Champion of the World.
Speaker 1: I'm just mentally preparing myself for a bunch of horrific
Speaker 1: Andrew TikTok video. So not to mention one half of
Speaker 1: the DJ group Gladiator, with our very own DJ Daniel.
Speaker 1: We have the we have the full Gladiator on staff,
Speaker 1: which is my favorite thing to brag about. All of
Speaker 1: these things, all of these things are are true. Um,
Speaker 1: and what's also true is that I have watched hours
Speaker 1: of Andrew Tate. The people who live with me have
Speaker 1: been miserable because while I'm cleaning the house, I've just
Speaker 1: been putting on his eight hour long videos where he
Speaker 1: tells people how to how to hustle. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: broken my brain and now it's time for everyone else
Speaker 1: to suffer. Which could be the tagline of this show. Honestly.
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, let's let's let's roll into it. But
Speaker 1: that don't do that to people where all of our
Speaker 1: money comes from doing the headphones. I am wearing headphones
Speaker 1: now when you're listening to eight hours of entertain no. See.
Speaker 1: I mean the whole reason this podcast works and the
Speaker 1: whole reason that I enjoy doing it is getting to
Speaker 1: make other people miserable after making myself miserable. So if
Speaker 1: if I were just hiding all of the Andrew Tate
Speaker 1: and and experiencing it solo, I wouldn't enjoy it as
Speaker 1: much as like when one of my friends comes home
Speaker 1: from a long day of like teaching children at a
Speaker 1: public school and sees Andrew Tate talking about child labor
Speaker 1: on on the screen of my TV, and that's just
Speaker 1: the thing that assaults them as they attempt to destress
Speaker 1: from their day. I think that's beautiful, Sophie. I guess
Speaker 1: I know who I owe apologies to on your behalf.
Speaker 1: Oh everyone, everyone, Sophie. Uh So let's let's get back
Speaker 1: into it. When we left off there there, Andrew in
Speaker 1: Tristan Tate's webcam sex business, which was essentially just sex trafficking,
Speaker 1: had taken off. They had started making a lot of money, um,
Speaker 1: and they had been forced to flee the United Kingdom
Speaker 1: after committing a series of sex crimes. Um. So they
Speaker 1: are in Romania now, Andrew Tate will and he's he's
Speaker 1: pretty open about this because because after this point he
Speaker 1: starts to get a lot more active on social media,
Speaker 1: particularly Instagram, and when he's doing these kind of like
Speaker 1: videos with his fans where he talks about how he
Speaker 1: got rich and how to get rich. He'll talk about
Speaker 1: why he moved to Romania, and his his explanation is, uh,
Speaker 1: there's sex crime laws are a lot looser there. It's
Speaker 1: a lot harder to get prosecuted because the government is
Speaker 1: more corrupt. Um. And while I'm not a rapist, I
Speaker 1: wanted to go to a place with more freedom to
Speaker 1: commit sex scribes, which is something a rapist would say,
Speaker 1: um and as in fact, something a rapist did say.
Speaker 1: So it was never he was never particularly good at
Speaker 1: hiding it and and spoilers. It may prove to be
Speaker 1: a bad idea to taunt the government of the country
Speaker 1: that you've moved to by calling them corrupt and saying
Speaker 1: they don't prosecute sex crimes, because Romania does actually have
Speaker 1: serious problems with sex trafficking. Um. But it turns out
Speaker 1: a great way to get a government to take a
Speaker 1: problem seriously is to taunt them and say that they
Speaker 1: don't care about that problem. When you become incredibly famous
Speaker 1: for committing crimes, uh, yeah, it's gonna be good. Not
Speaker 1: not not to be advised, but that's a few years
Speaker 1: in the future, because for quite a while this happens.
Speaker 1: He moves around or so and and for years he's
Speaker 1: very successful there, and he's he's instagramming as he as
Speaker 1: he starts to buy these supercars, as he starts, you know,
Speaker 1: hitting the wealth level that he can fly in private jets.
Speaker 1: He's he's putting all of these videos out. Um, he's
Speaker 1: engaging in stunts designed to draw attention, like promising to
Speaker 1: pay fans ten thousand dollars if they show him a
Speaker 1: good night out partying. Um. That catch was that. So
Speaker 1: it's just to be clear, all this money is from
Speaker 1: the website that him and his brother are running, right,
Speaker 1: That's where it starts coming in from. As we'll get
Speaker 1: into there. And and to be honest, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be able to give anyone a cohesive answer is
Speaker 1: to act only where all his money comes from because
Speaker 1: he is a criminal. Um so. But but we know
Speaker 1: a lot is coming in from the cam business at
Speaker 1: this point, um enough that he's like, yeah, promising to
Speaker 1: pay people tin grand if they show him a good
Speaker 1: night out partying, um, and the catches he's gonna like
Speaker 1: instagram beating them up if they if they don't show
Speaker 1: him a good time. One fan took him up on this,
Speaker 1: and the video has been scrubbed from the internet, but
Speaker 1: the end of it takes like, I had a bad time,
Speaker 1: Now you have to fight me. And this dude clearly
Speaker 1: doesn't want to fight him, and is at one point
Speaker 1: like here, I have to take my watch off, and
Speaker 1: so like Andrew looks away and then he just bolts
Speaker 1: and runs. It's like a beat from a fucking jet
Speaker 1: apatat movie. Um. And it works incredibly well on Andrew
Speaker 1: Tate because he is We're about to get into some
Speaker 1: of the smarter stuff he did, but he's not not
Speaker 1: nearly as smart as he thinks he is. Um. So
Speaker 1: that's fun. Two thousand fourteen, I think, is the year
Speaker 1: that the Tate brothers actually became millionaires. I found a
Speaker 1: compilation of Instagram footage from that time and a a
Speaker 1: YouTube channel called the tape pill. Um let me breathe
Speaker 1: in your sorrow Sophie. That fuels me miss the Boston accent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: see that that was the plan all along, get you
Speaker 1: to miss the Boston Um. This Instagram footage of his
Speaker 1: like first year as a millionaire's all shots of him
Speaker 1: driving expensive supercars, of the brother's partying of piles of
Speaker 1: cash inside of vehicles, and like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: videos of piles of cash, of women like cleaning for him.
Speaker 1: He's also really obsessed with showing like servants cleaning up
Speaker 1: for him while he does his videos. Um. But Tate's
Speaker 1: overall image, the way he presents himself is quite different
Speaker 1: at this point. Um. In one shot, we see him
Speaker 1: with a bunch of young women outside of a hotel
Speaker 1: or something. He's got a full head of hair, and
Speaker 1: he's wearing like a pink polo shirt and shorts. He
Speaker 1: looks like a frat brother, um, which is not the
Speaker 1: look that he goes for. He's kind of going for
Speaker 1: more of like a sex criminal James Bond, which also
Speaker 1: you might just call like regular James Bond if he
Speaker 1: went shirtless more often in his his kind of modern ship.
Speaker 1: But he's he's he's definitely just kind of he's kind
Speaker 1: of basic still at this point, Um, Yeah, which I
Speaker 1: found kind of interesting. In another shot from this compilation
Speaker 1: of photos and footage, which I again I took from
Speaker 1: a channel called the Tate Pill, we see a young
Speaker 1: woman with Tate's girl written across her chest and sharpie.
Speaker 1: Later on, there's a woman with Tates with Tate's written
Speaker 1: on her as like a tattoo. Um, this is a
Speaker 1: thing that you should keep in mind because it's going
Speaker 1: to be relevant later and Sophie, I put a picture
Speaker 1: in there of the lady with Tate's girl written. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: let him let him see, let him, let him take
Speaker 1: this in. Alright, I'm ready. Yeah, yeah, you got that in.
Speaker 1: You're feeling good. And I was happy he wouldn't make
Speaker 1: me show this too. Uh okay, yeah, yeah, now that
Speaker 1: feels bad, but okay, let's keep lying. Yeah bad, you
Speaker 1: don't say this whole thing is just giving me like
Speaker 1: Dan Blazarian vibes. I feel like he like saw a
Speaker 1: bunch of Dan Blazarian videos on the internet, was like
Speaker 1: I want that, and then he just started doing it.
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with Dan Blasarian? Oh yes, yes, Dan
Speaker 1: Bilzerian who was like this big right wing muscle gun
Speaker 1: influencer until he was present at that mass shooting in
Speaker 1: Vegas and ran away rather than render ring aid to
Speaker 1: any of the injured people. Yeahah, that guy, Dan Bilzerian,
Speaker 1: great guy. Um, yeah, I mean think the difference is
Speaker 1: that Tate would never have had a problem with running
Speaker 1: away from a mass shooting because a big part of
Speaker 1: his brand is you should only look out for yourself
Speaker 1: and fuck everybody else. Um, So he could, he would
Speaker 1: not have had he would not have had trouble handling
Speaker 1: that situation. UM. That video compilation of Tate and his
Speaker 1: brother when they first become millionaires is like thousands of
Speaker 1: video compilations of the Tates that literally the Internet, and
Speaker 1: watching those compilations because he's been d platform so much,
Speaker 1: is basically the only way to consume a lot of
Speaker 1: Tate's content, And if you you know, want to consume
Speaker 1: a lot of Tate content for some reason, he's been
Speaker 1: d platform for most places. We actually just lost a
Speaker 1: video we're going to play in here, So the easiest
Speaker 1: way to find old episodes of Tate speech, your various
Speaker 1: interviews is compilation videos like the one I found of
Speaker 1: pictures of him when he was first got his millions. Um.
Speaker 1: That's something to keep in mind because it's going to
Speaker 1: be more relevant later. It's elevant evidence of the kind
Speaker 1: of strategy that he actually used to get as famous
Speaker 1: as he is. UM. But first we need to get
Speaker 1: into more of his back story. So in two thousands sixteen,
Speaker 1: Mr Tate became a contestant on Big Brother, the UK
Speaker 1: reality show. Um, well, I guess the UK version of
Speaker 1: Big Brother, right. I think there's a bunch of versions
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know, I've never watched Big Brother. Um,
Speaker 1: but he was on the UK version of it, and um,
Speaker 1: I don't understand the rules of the show. But he
Speaker 1: came in as another housemate, which means he had to
Speaker 1: get voted to housemates status or some ship. He had
Speaker 1: to basically like socially engineer his way to being able
Speaker 1: to stay on the show. And so he made a
Speaker 1: big deal about being a strategizer and how he had
Speaker 1: this like elaborate strategic plan to get on the house.
Speaker 1: But before whatever plan that was came to fruition, footage
Speaker 1: leaked of him whipping a woman. Um. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: this is one of those ones that I'm a little
Speaker 1: like unsure of because I've I've seen the footage and
Speaker 1: like it's unpleasant. He claims that it is was a consensual,
Speaker 1: kinky sex act, and so does the woman that he
Speaker 1: was whipping. Um, And just based on the video that
Speaker 1: might be true. Of this specific video again, we know
Speaker 1: he's been physically abusive. There's a lot of evidence of that.
Speaker 1: We know that he's committed. This specific video may actually
Speaker 1: have been a kink thing, which is why I'm not
Speaker 1: playing it because I just I don't think that kind
Speaker 1: of thing should be played. So instead, let's watch a
Speaker 1: little clip of Andrew Tate on Big Brother. Um. I
Speaker 1: think that's going to give people a little bit better
Speaker 1: of a context of this guy and how he was
Speaker 1: presenting himself in two thousand and sixteen. Sophie, I've just
Speaker 1: put the link into the chat. Yeah, we're gonna this
Speaker 1: this This will be a good time for everybody, and
Speaker 1: much more pleasant than that video. Regardless of what the
Speaker 1: truth is of the video. You take from twenty nine
Speaker 1: years old, and I'm a four times Kickbooksing World champion.
Speaker 1: I see myself as smarter than average. I was a
Speaker 1: chess champion from a very young age and Major three.
Speaker 1: My biggest tool is that I'm I'm not afraid of
Speaker 1: anything I have. Don't need the money, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be fair, I don't want any of that. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the most emotionally controlled person in the house.
Speaker 1: Is Big Brother Time is up Andrew, confirm the character
Speaker 1: trait you have all chosen and targeted, and explain your reasons.
Speaker 1: The chosen sexy because we're assuming the first and he
Speaker 1: describes himself as sexy as an indiot nobody because someone
Speaker 1: sexually chose to be an easy choice. So that's Andrew Tate.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean you see what he's kind of
Speaker 1: going for there is like I don't, I'm the most
Speaker 1: emotionally controlled. You can't like affect me. Um. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: he's he's he's doing kind of a version of the
Speaker 1: thing he's going to be doing. Um. But obviously he
Speaker 1: gets kicked off the show very quickly. I think he's
Speaker 1: on it for literally like a week. Um. Now, the
Speaker 1: claim is that he's kicked off the show because this
Speaker 1: video of him whipping this this woman gets leaked out, right,
Speaker 1: and that like that's why they kick him off. There's
Speaker 1: debate about this within the Big Brother fandom. Um. I
Speaker 1: went through the Big Brother fandom WICKI because I wanted
Speaker 1: to see how were the how were the bro stands
Speaker 1: responding to Andrew take how do they feel about him?
Speaker 1: And they note this quote. Andrew himself and many other
Speaker 1: fans believe that is an incorrect reason as to why
Speaker 1: he was ejected. Andrew believes he was removed as a
Speaker 1: result after unaired altercations with other housemates got very heated
Speaker 1: and due to Andrew's fighting background, Big Brother feared violent
Speaker 1: repercussions due to this and ejected him from the house.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that he would admit that because he's
Speaker 1: basically saying they thought I was too violent and dangerous
Speaker 1: and didn't want me to hurt somebody and get the
Speaker 1: show in trouble, so they kicked me off, which I
Speaker 1: actually think might be possible. I am going to say,
Speaker 1: Andrew may not be incorrect there, because if I if
Speaker 1: I'm Big Brother and I see the way this guy
Speaker 1: interacts with people and his background, I might be like,
Speaker 1: we may want to get this motherfucker off the show.
Speaker 1: He seems like a violent psychopath. Yeah, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's also very likely that they just saw that sketchy
Speaker 1: video and we're like, we don't we don't need this.
Speaker 1: We don't need Big Big Brother doesn't need this pr um.
Speaker 1: So either before before he went on the show, was
Speaker 1: he already kind of starting to become famous a little bit,
Speaker 1: or was this kind of like a jumping off point
Speaker 1: for bigger fame. I certainly wouldn't call him famous. He was,
Speaker 1: you know, a semi prominent within the UK, semi prominent
Speaker 1: uh fighting sports star. He'd done a little bit of
Speaker 1: m M A two um and he was a semi
Speaker 1: prominent Instead. He had like, you know, I think in
Speaker 1: the tens of thousands, maybe even like a couple of
Speaker 1: hundred thousand followers on Instagram. Um, so he's not a nobody,
Speaker 1: but he's not a celebrity, right, Like he's the he's
Speaker 1: the level of celebrity that you you picked to be
Speaker 1: on a Big Brother show, right yeah. Um. Now, as
Speaker 1: with so many claims about this guy, obviously, like I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say that the Big Brother Wicky fandom
Speaker 1: wicki is a great source, but I did read through
Speaker 1: it and I think it's worth reading to you the
Speaker 1: biography that the Big Brother fandom Wicki gives for take
Speaker 1: because I believe it's it's accurate to the kind of
Speaker 1: stuff that Tate bragged about in his Big Brother appearance.
Speaker 1: Here's his biography. Andrew is a member of MENSA as
Speaker 1: the Iowa Writers Workshop, which I was fucking right about.
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody, who mentioned in Yes people did red
Speaker 1: motherfucking flag. Folks who are not on on the social
Speaker 1: media should note that people pointed out the Iowa Writer's
Speaker 1: Workshop was apparently started by the CIA um, which is
Speaker 1: very funny in terms of Sophie being right about it
Speaker 1: being shady, although I will say Robert bly does not
Speaker 1: seem to have taken to the CIA's propagandia. You know
Speaker 1: about the anti war but I guess, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: we'll see whatever feel about that. However, you want very
Speaker 1: funny member of mensa, let's go back to that. That
Speaker 1: is more of a red flo the CIA writing program.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm just gonna say that right now, text
Speaker 1: Jamie about this. Does Jamie know that Andrew was her?
Speaker 1: Right now? I'm gonna continue Andrew's bio from The Big
Speaker 1: Brother Wicky. Andrew was a four time world kickboxing champion.
Speaker 1: His brother, who Andrew claims is his only true friend,
Speaker 1: trades him what a sad sentence. Andrew believes that a
Speaker 1: man should be able to sleep with as many women
Speaker 1: as he wants, but that does not apply to women.
Speaker 1: So that's that's basically what you'd expect from Mr Tate, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds like a perfect encapsulation. What an incredible guy. Um. So,
Speaker 1: the year after his big brother failure, Donald Trump, you
Speaker 1: guys might have heard of this, becomes President of the
Speaker 1: United States, and suddenly you got you got fascists in
Speaker 1: the streets, you got the alt right suddenly being a
Speaker 1: term and everybody's lexicon, and you've got this galaxy of
Speaker 1: right wing and explicitly fascist media influencers just blowing the
Speaker 1: funk up on social media. Andrew and Tristan saw this happening,
Speaker 1: and they were like, this is how how we we
Speaker 1: get huge, right, This is a perfect place for us
Speaker 1: to just kind of nest like one of those wasps
Speaker 1: that lays their eggs in your eyes and then burst out. Um.
Speaker 1: So they decide to to be the wasps, and let's
Speaker 1: say Alex Jones as I they start to experiment. Social
Speaker 1: media posts bragging about their luxurious lifestyle had helped. But
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff is a dime a dozen now.
Speaker 1: Andrew is unfortunately not a dumb man, uh, and so
Speaker 1: he observed the successive guys like Mike Sernovitch, Alex Jones,
Speaker 1: Paul Joseph Watson, and he recognized that they were all
Speaker 1: using variations of the same tactic. They would post something
Speaker 1: deliberately inflammatory on social media or on their own shows.
Speaker 1: They'd have some sort of guests like David I could
Speaker 1: talk about lizard people, or or they would go on
Speaker 1: this rant, or they just do something super racist and
Speaker 1: that would generate outrage, and all of these liberal and
Speaker 1: centrist and left wing journalists would cover the horrifying thing
Speaker 1: that they'd said on social media, which would elevate their
Speaker 1: profile and give them free advertise. Platforms are they're using
Speaker 1: at this time, he is using primarily Instagram, and he's
Speaker 1: going to get increasingly big on TikTok He's one of
Speaker 1: these these the right wing influencers who's probably best at
Speaker 1: TikTok um. He also, though he puts stuff on YouTube
Speaker 1: for and until he gets banned from YouTube, he has
Speaker 1: like a long kind of video blog podcast, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of where he's starting. It's very it's very it's
Speaker 1: very interesting the like the similarities to like Steve Bannon
Speaker 1: using yea yeah, video game and and just message was
Speaker 1: just thinking about that, yeah, yeah, and he's this is
Speaker 1: very conscious, right, like he's he's he's and this is
Speaker 1: this is where Andrew Tate is smart, right because intelligence
Speaker 1: is is not a broad concept. It's a narrow thing,
Speaker 1: and he's very intelligent when it comes to how to
Speaker 1: build a right wing brand online. He watches what everyone
Speaker 1: is doing and he takes the stuff that works best,
Speaker 1: and he's he's going to become very good at this.
Speaker 1: But you know who's even better at this? The products
Speaker 1: and services that sponsor the spot. They they have You
Speaker 1: should see their right wing Instagram page. It is offensive
Speaker 1: you say that, but most of our ads are programmatic
Speaker 1: and we have no idea what they are, so that
Speaker 1: could be very I'm excited. I'm excited for the Gold
Speaker 1: Company to come back. Everybody, Yeah, buy some motherfucking gold.
Speaker 1: We are we are back. Uh. Sophie's letting us know
Speaker 1: that Jamie Loftus, who did a podcast on Mensa, just
Speaker 1: just got the news that Andrew Tate is a men's site.
Speaker 1: How do she respond? All caps L O L no way, beautiful, beautiful,
Speaker 1: perfect reply, happy, happy to have have have supplied her
Speaker 1: with this information. Um. Yeah, So Andrew starts upping his
Speaker 1: his appearances on social media. He starts integrating himself into
Speaker 1: this right wing eco system, throwing out offensive ship and
Speaker 1: just kind of using that to build his profile, to
Speaker 1: get him invites to be on other people's shows. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote from the Guardian here to talk about
Speaker 1: his rise to prominence. In September of two thousands seventeen,
Speaker 1: he was criticized by mental health charities for saying depression
Speaker 1: isn't real. The next month, he waited in on me
Speaker 1: Too saying women should bear some responsibility for being raped
Speaker 1: of you. He has since repeated and which, among other incidents,
Speaker 1: led to him being barred from Twitter. The backlash one
Speaker 1: Tate work and boosted his profile. He appeared on info Wars,
Speaker 1: the podcast of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, was pictured with
Speaker 1: far right YouTuber Paul Joseph Watson and met Donald Trump
Speaker 1: Junior at Trump Tower, posting on Facebook afterwards the Tate
Speaker 1: family support Trump fully. Magata he boxes, Yeah, he's he's
Speaker 1: he's tic tac toed his way through the very worst
Speaker 1: people in our society. In two thousand nineteen, police were
Speaker 1: called after Taps showed up a the house of Mike
Speaker 1: stuck Berry, a journalist who had been critical about him online.
Speaker 1: Days act after yaks Ley Lennon, that's Tommy Robinson, who
Speaker 1: he did an episode on, did the same thing. The
Speaker 1: incident caused stuck Berry's wife to suffer a panic attack
Speaker 1: and played a role in them leaving the UK for Germany.
Speaker 1: So both that's gross physical intermidation of a guy who's
Speaker 1: criticized him. But also he's just doing the same thing
Speaker 1: Tommy Robinson did, so you can see at this point
Speaker 1: he's not a figure in his own right. Yet when
Speaker 1: you are copying Tommy fucking Robinson, you have not yet
Speaker 1: ascended right that it's one of the sadder right wing
Speaker 1: grifters to be following in the footsteps of So he's
Speaker 1: he's working on it, but he hasn't yet blown his
Speaker 1: way kind of out of the pack. All of this controversy,
Speaker 1: all of these appearances on right wing talk shows and podcasts,
Speaker 1: did successfully elevate Tait's profile, and he started funneling his
Speaker 1: new fans towards his new business, one with a wider
Speaker 1: appeal than webcam prostitution. He began offering a series of
Speaker 1: classes to his followers. Initially, this was sleazy pickup artists
Speaker 1: ship classes on how to get women. The market for
Speaker 1: that is very crowded, though, here's how Tate attempted to
Speaker 1: set himself apart from the pickup artist community. From the
Speaker 1: promotional material I found for his now defunct pH D program,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it stands for something gross I forgot, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you the ad copy that he wrote
Speaker 1: for this fucking thing. Andrew Tate is world champion kickboxer
Speaker 1: who owns and operates strip clubs and webcam studios with
Speaker 1: over seventy five girls working for him. He has created
Speaker 1: a system that allows you to get girls quickly, easily,
Speaker 1: and without spending money. Unlike other pickup artists who have
Speaker 1: the odd girl here and there, Tate has top quality
Speaker 1: that's in caps women living with him and making him
Speaker 1: money full time. This makes him more qualified than any
Speaker 1: other coach on the internet. Do you want to learn
Speaker 1: how to get the odd girl from a pickup artist
Speaker 1: or learned how to build an army of women who
Speaker 1: are so loyal to you that they allow you to
Speaker 1: have as many girls as you want. More importantly, he
Speaker 1: has a fool proof system for retaining women, having them
Speaker 1: do as you say and respecting you without taking up
Speaker 1: or wasting large amounts of your time. As Tate said,
Speaker 1: I don't want to tend unless she does everything I say.
Speaker 1: It's obedience and loyalty that turns me on more than looks.
Speaker 1: Whether you're looking to get girls, simply have your girlfriend
Speaker 1: obey every command and be fiercely loyal, or learned how
Speaker 1: to live with three or four girlfriends at once, his
Speaker 1: Tate does, this is the course for you. So do
Speaker 1: you go? Guys? So do we think Hitch was his
Speaker 1: favorite movie? So I don't think you're allowed to make
Speaker 1: references to Hitch. Nobody's seen Hitch. Ye have you seen
Speaker 1: Hitch with Will Smith? I have seen Hitch. It's a
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's a it's a fun little movie.
Speaker 1: The leergic reaction for oh that was, you know, bringing
Speaker 1: back Yeah, yeah that that entire thing was disgusting. Robert,
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing. Oh yeah it was. When I
Speaker 1: found that. I just that was. I did a little
Speaker 1: chef's kiss like I was like I was cooking up
Speaker 1: some spaghetti. Uh, it was good. It was good. Now
Speaker 1: a big part of Tate's branding, And this is the
Speaker 1: same thing when you were an influencer, right, if you're
Speaker 1: trying to build like a cultishly loyal following, you have
Speaker 1: to use cult techniques, and that means creating words that
Speaker 1: were not in use before you started using them, um
Speaker 1: and or at least repurposing words in ways that other
Speaker 1: people don't use them and getting your fans to talk
Speaker 1: that way. Um. And one of the things you know,
Speaker 1: Tate Tate note knew this. And Tate also he had
Speaker 1: paid attention to guys. You know again, think back to
Speaker 1: our other cult leaders. We've got guys like Keith Rawnieri
Speaker 1: who was called Vanguard. We've got Ron Hubbard who was
Speaker 1: the Commodore. I forget what Werner or Hard went by,
Speaker 1: but but we just did his episodes. Um and for take,
Speaker 1: the kind of name that he had his fans call
Speaker 1: him is top G. And you will see this in
Speaker 1: a shitload of zoomer TikTok videos. I want to play
Speaker 1: first a video for you of him talking to his
Speaker 1: brother about what top G means. And this is from
Speaker 1: the tape Pill YouTube channel, which that's the only YouTube
Speaker 1: channel that I visit. Yeah, top G and tape Pill,
Speaker 1: all those names make me want to crop. It's good stuff, Sylvie.
Speaker 1: Here's the clip. Gee, everyone says top G. Kids are
Speaker 1: now wearing a T shirt top on it. I want
Speaker 1: to be a top G. I want to be the
Speaker 1: top G. He basically trademarket. So what do you mean
Speaker 1: by top G? Top G is an individual who is
Speaker 1: capable in all realms. As my father said, sheer into
Speaker 1: fatiguability and unmatched pers picacity made him a feared opponent
Speaker 1: in all realms of human endeavor. When you are top G,
Speaker 1: you are dangerous at everything. That's why I'm talking. And
Speaker 1: they were to say to you, you have to go
Speaker 1: on a race track and race or take in cars.
Speaker 1: He was like ships, you have to go in the
Speaker 1: boxing ring and fight tape. Ship to fight tap, you
Speaker 1: have to go debate. Take a ship tritly you have
Speaker 1: to go try and get a girl, and takes also
Speaker 1: trying to get a girl in the ship's get It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what's the call. The sition is as soon
Speaker 1: as they say my name, you're gonna be like a fox.
Speaker 1: My unmatched perspotacity, my ability to proceed. I share in
Speaker 1: theocritig ability, the fact that I never get tired. You
Speaker 1: add all this together, I am a feared opponent and
Speaker 1: he were almost human endeavor, even things I don't yet
Speaker 1: know how to do. You do not want to compete
Speaker 1: with me in those things. That is why I am
Speaker 1: so First off, it feels like he wasn't as good
Speaker 1: at chess as he says because his dad had to
Speaker 1: kick him out of a contest for crying too much.
Speaker 1: Just do do keep that in mind as he makes
Speaker 1: these claims. Now, I don't believe that Andrew Tate is
Speaker 1: a competition race car driver because he has has never
Speaker 1: done that. And also, and by the way, I again,
Speaker 1: because he makes claims like this. I went to like
Speaker 1: race car Twitter to see what they said about him,
Speaker 1: and they had a bunch of rights. They had a
Speaker 1: lot of weird There were a lot of you'll run
Speaker 1: into people making these weird niche criticisms about his supercars
Speaker 1: and how they're not the right kind of it's a
Speaker 1: word of it's an expensive car that goes fast, okay.
Speaker 1: And if you're a supercar nerd and disagree, you can
Speaker 1: go to hell. Because I enjoyed reading and found it
Speaker 1: like enlightening reading the chess and the kickboxing subredits. The
Speaker 1: supercar people are insufferable, even the ones that don't like
Speaker 1: Andrew Tate. So I I do love that. That's Robert's Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where he draws the line. It's like the supercars
Speaker 1: just really were too much because they were like, well, no,
Speaker 1: you want this supercar, not that one. I would never
Speaker 1: And I was like, you don't like I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: don't I you you people. I don't believe God. I
Speaker 1: can just imagine these supercar suckers like Tinder profiles. They're
Speaker 1: so horrible. Their car is there, you know, the car
Speaker 1: is in the picture. Yeah, I am, I am. I
Speaker 1: simply don't care what you have to say about his supercars.
Speaker 1: But what I do care about is the fact that
Speaker 1: as silly as that all is, the top Gee ship worked.
Speaker 1: And as evidence for this, I'm I have just sent
Speaker 1: another link to the chat. This is a protest in Athens, Greece,
Speaker 1: where what appears to be visually several thousand adult men,
Speaker 1: uh and a number of men who are boys marching
Speaker 1: through the streets of Athens. And I want, Sophie, I
Speaker 1: want you to just play what they're chanting. Yeah. This
Speaker 1: was after this was right after his arrest. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know what this is. I'm sad, and that is it's
Speaker 1: not a I'll say this, that's not like a tiny
Speaker 1: flash mob. There's a lot of people there is a
Speaker 1: there is a distressing number of men in the street.
Speaker 1: There's a distressing number of men in the streets that's
Speaker 1: in Greece. Yeah, it is not great. So this works
Speaker 1: very well. Um, Tate was very successful. And again we've
Speaker 1: already covered the degree to which he's exaggerating an outright
Speaker 1: lying about his competence. But he's successfully pushing a persona
Speaker 1: of himself as hypercompetent and irresistible to women. As we've
Speaker 1: already covered, a lot of what he says is objectively untrue.
Speaker 1: His kickboxing record was cooked, his businesses are mostly cheap
Speaker 1: scams or outright criminal enterprices. We'll get into that more
Speaker 1: in a second, but it's worth digging into first the
Speaker 1: reality behind the Andrew Tate method of picking up women.
Speaker 1: In the wake of Tate's arrest, a brave nineteen year
Speaker 1: old Romanian woman named Daria Gusha Goosa reached out to BuzzFeed.
Speaker 1: She told them and provided evidence that in when she
Speaker 1: was sixteen, Andrew Tate slid into her d ms on
Speaker 1: Instagram with a message that read Romanian girl strawberry emoji,
Speaker 1: which I think is a sex that the strawberry emoji.
Speaker 1: I don't know I don't know what you kids use
Speaker 1: when straw? Alright, carry on on the Graham, yes, Sophy,
Speaker 1: g's it with the kids give at the times when
Speaker 1: Tate message to her Instagram bio had the name of
Speaker 1: her fancy private school, and she told BuzzFeed that a
Speaker 1: number of other girls in her class had been messaged
Speaker 1: by Tate around the same time in the same way,
Speaker 1: So it seems like he was looking for basically just
Speaker 1: like filtering his responses from girls in this private school
Speaker 1: who were like sixteen, and then messaging a bunch of
Speaker 1: them at once. Daria did not respond, but her friends.
Speaker 1: Some of her friends did, and Tate complimented them, telling
Speaker 1: them how beautiful they were. He bragged about his wealth,
Speaker 1: and he offered to take them too expensive restaurants. After
Speaker 1: a short back and forth, he would every time try
Speaker 1: to meet up with the girls, be like, Hey, we
Speaker 1: should meet up right now. Where are you I'll come
Speaker 1: pick you up, we can go out and eat, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote from BuzzFeed next. None of her friends
Speaker 1: went ahead with meeting with him, she said, and once
Speaker 1: Tate realized they weren't going to, he started to insult them.
Speaker 1: The second that girls stopped applying to him. He starts
Speaker 1: getting a bit verbally abusive, calling them ugly and stuff,
Speaker 1: right like that, just to get the reaction out of
Speaker 1: them and keep engaging with them, Gusa said. And that's
Speaker 1: I think useful to to go over because that's normal
Speaker 1: shitty guy on the internet stuff. That is, there's a
Speaker 1: billion guys doing that. There's nothing special about him. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have some sort of secret. He's not irresistible. He's
Speaker 1: just doing the same thing that Like, there's like there's
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of Twitter accounts that like semi professionally
Speaker 1: post like screen grabs of guys sliding into women's d
Speaker 1: m s all around the world doing that exact thing. Like,
Speaker 1: there's nothing about his method that is special or rare.
Speaker 1: He just practices it exclusively on children. Um, and you
Speaker 1: know what he's doing is he's he's I'm sure shotgunning
Speaker 1: out these requests to so many people that statistically just
Speaker 1: like with like a you know exactly, it's like one
Speaker 1: of those like email scams. Right, some number of people
Speaker 1: are going to like respond, It'll work on some number
Speaker 1: of people, and that's all he cares about, right, Um,
Speaker 1: And I do think That's important because when it comes
Speaker 1: to actual pickup artistry or whatever you wanna call it,
Speaker 1: and Drew Tad is no different than every other frustrated
Speaker 1: adult male piece of ship looking to flirt with little kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're not special, motherfucker, just like every other creep.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. He is just like every other creep behind
Speaker 1: the curtain. Now, none of this, though, is public during
Speaker 1: the rise of Andrew Tate's social media profile or his
Speaker 1: main online business, which would become Hustlers University. That's what
Speaker 1: he calls this, like a series of classes and training
Speaker 1: programs that he starts to launch um and it's the
Speaker 1: kind of thing like he is undeniably good at getting people,
Speaker 1: and it's mostly the people who mostly believe this image
Speaker 1: he's crafted are children, right, they are also children. They're
Speaker 1: male children, all of his all of his victims, the
Speaker 1: women that the girls that he's flirting with are mostly
Speaker 1: children or of extremely young adults. And the people with
Speaker 1: exactly who can't do critical thinking or make like a
Speaker 1: big decision exactly. And the people he's trying to get
Speaker 1: money from are like boys. I'm like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: say age twelve to twenty and uh yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's who this ship works on. Now. I found an
Speaker 1: eight hour class from Hustlers University up on YouTube, which
Speaker 1: is just part one of his his watch did there are?
Speaker 1: You can find a lot of these have been uploaded
Speaker 1: since his arrest, and there's like a hundred of them
Speaker 1: doing house chores and then blasting this. I'm sweeping, I'm cleaning.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm standing standing naked doing planks on my
Speaker 1: in my living room floor. Normal stuff. Um, not your
Speaker 1: living room floor. Oh yeah, that's the only place I
Speaker 1: do it. So yeah, I felt like I had to
Speaker 1: watch through these because Tate claims at the start that
Speaker 1: these do contain his entire understanding of business and how
Speaker 1: to make money. Um, I figured watching it would give
Speaker 1: me some insight into the soul of the man himself.
Speaker 1: And boy, howdy did it ever? God. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: go into that in a little bit. But first, you
Speaker 1: know what we're gonna go into. Oh is it an
Speaker 1: ad back? Isn't an advertage? Sure is an ad break.
Speaker 1: It's some products, some services, the odd product and service.
Speaker 1: We're going to go into that. I'm gonna do my
Speaker 1: hustle before we we we introduce you all to Hustlers University. Oh, Robert,
Speaker 1: that was despicable. Yeah, well, welcome to the potty Pal.
Speaker 1: We are back. Hustlers University starts out pretty boring. He
Speaker 1: gives his definition of a business, which is a thing
Speaker 1: that money goes into. Right, that's the only thing of businesses.
Speaker 1: So thanks, thanks for explaining that. Thanks, I have no
Speaker 1: idea before. Okay, thank you, thank you. Andrew. Well, it's
Speaker 1: interesting because since a business is only something money goes into,
Speaker 1: if you are putting money into startup costs, if you're
Speaker 1: putting money into R and D, if you're paying for
Speaker 1: things like PR, that is all a waste of time, right,
Speaker 1: because that's spending money. A business only takes money in. Now,
Speaker 1: you may be saying, well, but you have to spend
Speaker 1: money to make money. That's like a thing everybody knows
Speaker 1: about business. That's just the way that it works, right.
Speaker 1: Andrew says no, And in order to explain what a
Speaker 1: fool you are, he gives an example of a good
Speaker 1: business that he had an idea for. And this first
Speaker 1: example of a good business is starting a website to
Speaker 1: sell makeup online. Now, he says, he's adamant that like
Speaker 1: you don't need to have any makeup. You don't need
Speaker 1: to have a product. All you do is you make
Speaker 1: a website selling makeup, and then you wait for a
Speaker 1: bunch of people to buy the makeup, and then you
Speaker 1: figure out where to get makeup with the money that
Speaker 1: they've spent on makeup that you didn't have before, and
Speaker 1: then you send it to them. Sounds like that, that's
Speaker 1: that's genius brain level business stuff. Start start a fraudulent
Speaker 1: makeup business, and then buy makeup once you start getting money. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think that that would work, uh, in part
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of makeup that's a real company
Speaker 1: out there that people can buy from a lot of
Speaker 1: other options. Act. So yeah, and I'm sure a lot
Speaker 1: of people have that question. Um, how how are you
Speaker 1: supposed to actually get cash flow started without investing, without
Speaker 1: having something to make people want to buy your makeup?
Speaker 1: And Tate has an answer for you, and that answer
Speaker 1: is child labor. Um. So I'm gonna play a clip
Speaker 1: from you and as an aside, during this clip, when
Speaker 1: you hear him tell someone to wipe down his white board,
Speaker 1: it's some random cam worker in his home. It's a
Speaker 1: young woman who like lives with him that he has
Speaker 1: doing minor chores in the background. This is the thing
Speaker 1: that he does in all of his videos. Family and
Speaker 1: friends are actually the best staff you can possible get. Now,
Speaker 1: people say, don't mix friends with business, don't mix family
Speaker 1: with business. Can you clean my board? Sit here and
Speaker 1: wipe it. Don't mix friends with business, yeah, good, don't
Speaker 1: don't make friends with business. Don't mix family business. That's
Speaker 1: a lie. So the reason people say this is because
Speaker 1: people are dickheads and they can't get along with anyone
Speaker 1: they're not. They can't get along with anybody long enough
Speaker 1: to make any money. But I guarantee you have family
Speaker 1: members right this second who can make you money. I
Speaker 1: guarantee you you have a fifteen year old niece, nephew, cousin, brother, whoever,
Speaker 1: who knows more about computers than you do. I guarantee
Speaker 1: there's a fifteen year old out there with nothing better
Speaker 1: to do, who knows more about photoshop than you do.
Speaker 1: Right now. His stupid ass needs a job, so you
Speaker 1: can start a company right now. Yeah. So that's that's
Speaker 1: that seems good, right, That's that's a solid business idea.
Speaker 1: Have have young relatives and trick them into working for you. Um,
Speaker 1: absolutely genius, Andrew you are. You're the finest business mind
Speaker 1: of our generation. Um. Now he follows this up with
Speaker 1: his next incredible piece of corporate advice, which I think
Speaker 1: might be of interest to some prosecutors in Romania. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have Sophie play that one. Next. Don't get
Speaker 1: legal before you get rich. This is super important. We're
Speaker 1: talking about hustling here. I'm telling you the hacks to
Speaker 1: becoming rich. Do not get legal before you are rich.
Speaker 1: You can fix your legal bullshit when you've already made money.
Speaker 1: It's a shame I've deleted my or erase to my
Speaker 1: beautiful makeup diagram. But it's very similar to what we're
Speaker 1: saying earlier. I know so registered for v A T,
Speaker 1: registered with the tax man, already have an accountant, and
Speaker 1: haven't made any money yet. I and most of my
Speaker 1: companies will make a million dollars before I'll even consider
Speaker 1: sucking around with a tax form, talking to an accountant,
Speaker 1: or registering any fucking companies. All that ship is on
Speaker 1: the layer base until you have proved the viability of
Speaker 1: your company and you have money coming in. When you're
Speaker 1: rich and you have money in the bank, then worry
Speaker 1: about that stuff. Do not waste your time, energy and
Speaker 1: money doing all that legal crap before you know anything
Speaker 1: about whether your business is gonna work. It's if every
Speaker 1: time I had to start a company or an idea,
Speaker 1: I had to go register a company, getting account and
Speaker 1: do tax forms, do vat form. What a waste of time.
Speaker 1: I'll started maybe a hundred companies in my life. Twenty
Speaker 1: of them made money. You tell me eight times I
Speaker 1: would have had to funk around. Don't do that. I
Speaker 1: know so many people who have a company legally but
Speaker 1: don't have a company in reality, because it exists as
Speaker 1: a legal entity, but it does not provide cash. A
Speaker 1: company provides cash. If you're a street drug dealer, you
Speaker 1: own a company much more than the guy with all
Speaker 1: the legal entities which ain't making money. Do not. We're hustlers.
Speaker 1: Here's the hustlers university. Do not confuse this money in
Speaker 1: what's the lessons I've been teaching you? Money in? Where's
Speaker 1: the money in? Pointing at the empty white nothing written
Speaker 1: on it, there's nothing, Oh my god. Yeah. So because
Speaker 1: people this is an audio medium, he is like pointing
Speaker 1: and circling things on an empty whiteboard. Because he's forgotten
Speaker 1: that he had one of his cam workers, uh, erase
Speaker 1: everything on it. Um. Obviously, this is terrible advice, in
Speaker 1: part because if you start a business that doesn't make
Speaker 1: a profit and you did not do any of the
Speaker 1: legal things you needed to do, there's a good chance
Speaker 1: that at some point the tax man will come and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you didn't do all this ship you needed to do,
Speaker 1: and we know that. You know now you owe us
Speaker 1: a shipload of money, and because your business failed, you
Speaker 1: owe even more because you broke a bunch of laws.
Speaker 1: That's one thing that is concerning about the advice that
Speaker 1: he's giving. Although anyone who's going to start companies using
Speaker 1: the andretain advice probably deserves to be in trouble with
Speaker 1: the I R S or whoever, So I'm not going
Speaker 1: to complain too much about it um. But also I
Speaker 1: kind of hope someone in Romania is aware of these videos,
Speaker 1: because I I suspect Andrew Tap did not dot the
Speaker 1: eyes across the teas necessary to make all of his
Speaker 1: shady business is legal in that country. He was operating
Speaker 1: casinos and strip clubs in the country once he got rich,
Speaker 1: like actual ones, not just cam ones. So um, I
Speaker 1: I kind of think there's a decent chance he will
Speaker 1: wind up getting extra charges as a result of not
Speaker 1: legally operating any of his businesses. UM fun thing to
Speaker 1: brag about, Andrew. So the next point he makes in
Speaker 1: this video of of really just irreplaceable financial advice is
Speaker 1: use what you've got. And this is where Andrew actually
Speaker 1: gives us some context on how he started his cam
Speaker 1: business and why. But first we get a little bit
Speaker 1: more child labor advocacy. I just gave you the example
Speaker 1: of the fifteen year old cousin who can make websites,
Speaker 1: And now you want a website company or your fifteen
Speaker 1: year old cousin who can do I don't know fucking
Speaker 1: who knows what he can do. He can mow lawns
Speaker 1: every fifteen year old and mo lawns. Now you have
Speaker 1: a lawnmowing business. Bang, tell his stupid ask to go
Speaker 1: deliver some flyers. Drive him around your car, play some Tupac,
Speaker 1: chill out in your car, text some bitches, drive at
Speaker 1: five miles an hour. Let him drop off all the
Speaker 1: leaflets and then let him mow all the lawns. You
Speaker 1: collect all the money and just pay him a percentage. Bang,
Speaker 1: you now own a lawmo lawnmoaning company. Congratulations, Use what
Speaker 1: you got. I made a lot of money with webcam girls.
Speaker 1: If you're watching this, you don't know that webcam girls.
Speaker 1: You can go to a chatter bait dot com. You
Speaker 1: see girls on their on webcam getting naked talking to
Speaker 1: dudes taking money. That made me millions and millions of
Speaker 1: dollars and came up with that idea by sticking to
Speaker 1: this principle, use what you've got. So right now, if
Speaker 1: you're sitting there, what are you saying? And I mean everything?
Speaker 1: Just way, have a car, it's on lease. You have
Speaker 1: physical strength, Let's say you're a strong guy. When I
Speaker 1: was making my list, I was writing and now I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I've got six girlfriends. Six girlfriends, so okay,
Speaker 1: strip How can girls make your money? Strip club? But
Speaker 1: that takes money to set up? Remember costs. I cannot
Speaker 1: get money in a strip club without a club. So
Speaker 1: I looked at all the costs for a strip club
Speaker 1: and realize it's too expensive Before I could get money in.
Speaker 1: It's too big a risk. Remember it's too much risk.
Speaker 1: I can lose three for under grand. Can't risk that.
Speaker 1: How could I get money? In. How can I get
Speaker 1: money in for having hot girls without spending money out?
Speaker 1: So my first idea was strip club. But I looked
Speaker 1: at all the costs. I was like, okay, so how
Speaker 1: why do men send? Why do men spend money on
Speaker 1: girls and strip club? Because the girls are beautiful, they
Speaker 1: get to look at the girls, see some titties that
Speaker 1: How can I do that without the club? Well, the internet.
Speaker 1: If I put them on the internet, it's cheap. This
Speaker 1: is literally how I thought. I stuck to my business principles. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's cheap. Start looking up bound discovered the webcam websites.
Speaker 1: All right, So I've already got the girls. I've already
Speaker 1: got a laptop, I've already got the internet bag. The
Speaker 1: day I had the webcam idea, the same day I
Speaker 1: was making money. I didn't spend any money, but I
Speaker 1: was making new money because I refused to allow myself
Speaker 1: to spend. Now, I started making new money in with
Speaker 1: the webcam because I knew I had the internet. I
Speaker 1: knew I had laptops, I knew I had girls. Use
Speaker 1: what you've gone? Look around you? What people do you have?
Speaker 1: Does your old mother need a new jobs? Maybe she's
Speaker 1: at home, and she's black. Oh my god, maybe she
Speaker 1: will do your old mother. If you have cousins, niece's nephews,
Speaker 1: do you have a girlfriend who has nothing to do
Speaker 1: use what you have? The most offsetting thing about all
Speaker 1: of this is like you can see how like this
Speaker 1: people can fall for this, or like the how people
Speaker 1: can be susceptible to this, because obviously he's taking it
Speaker 1: to a sick discussing extreme, but like, at the core
Speaker 1: of it, like that does make sense on some level.
Speaker 1: If you have a bunch of you know, old baseball
Speaker 1: cards or whatever, you can start selling them at school,
Speaker 1: will make a little extra money. But like, he's taking
Speaker 1: it to such an extreme level of exploitation and illegality
Speaker 1: that it's like insane. But I could see how someone
Speaker 1: who's maybe not as savvy or is really gullible could
Speaker 1: be influence or fall for this kind of stuff. And
Speaker 1: that's what makes people like this so fucking dangerous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what's going on here? There's two things going on here, right,
Speaker 1: And this is always the case with him. It's the
Speaker 1: case with like his the thing, the brags, the lies
Speaker 1: he makes about his background. It's true, he's pretty good
Speaker 1: at chess, It's true his dad was very good at chess.
Speaker 1: It's true that he was a decent kickboxer. Um. And
Speaker 1: then he kind of uses that core of truth and
Speaker 1: then wraps a bunch of lies around it in order
Speaker 1: to make this persona It is true that a lot
Speaker 1: of people with small businesses use their families for free labor. Right.
Speaker 1: There's like laws in the United States where kids normally
Speaker 1: there's a lot of restrictions and how they can work
Speaker 1: unless it's like a family owned business. Right if you
Speaker 1: like own a corner store, you can have your sixteen
Speaker 1: year old work it and they're not subject to all
Speaker 1: of the restrictions that like seven eleven would be if
Speaker 1: they tried to hire a sixteen year old, right, Like,
Speaker 1: there's some differences there. Um, I'm not saying, by the
Speaker 1: way that that's good or bad. I'm just that's the
Speaker 1: way that it works. This is pretty normalized. What he
Speaker 1: is saying is like taking that idea and saying no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: What you should be doing is getting all of these
Speaker 1: people who are emotionally invested in you and love you
Speaker 1: and using them as free labor to make yourself rich.
Speaker 1: Right Like, that's that's the class and what he's doing
Speaker 1: there is he's taking the logic of a multi level
Speaker 1: marketing company all of these all of these like Avon
Speaker 1: kind of fucking bullshit companies where they or uh these
Speaker 1: different like essential oil companies that we've talked about for
Speaker 1: years on the show, where like all all rely on, Hey,
Speaker 1: your friends need this makeup, your friends need these supplements,
Speaker 1: your friends need this shitty low quality leggings um and
Speaker 1: you can make a lot of money getting them to
Speaker 1: sell and getting them in your upline. And you know
Speaker 1: that that that's one of the things that's ruined, like
Speaker 1: the social Internet, Facebook has become a place where like
Speaker 1: people you knew fifteen years ago get in touch, pretending
Speaker 1: to be your friend and then try to to get
Speaker 1: you to like become a do Tera representative or some ship.
Speaker 1: He's using this logic because he knows that it works.
Speaker 1: But instead of the thing that is obviously shady and
Speaker 1: that people have kind of more defense is built up around,
Speaker 1: which is like, hey, try to get your family to
Speaker 1: like buy into this business, what he's saying is like, no, no,
Speaker 1: get him to work for you, you know, offer them
Speaker 1: like a share of profits or something to which obviously
Speaker 1: you know, and he goes into later to tail about
Speaker 1: how you can fuck them over on that. But he's
Speaker 1: he's he's taking this thing that has been a part
Speaker 1: of American grift culture for forever and he's he's twisting
Speaker 1: it um in a way that is I think kind
Speaker 1: of uh it is it is new and this is
Speaker 1: part of like the thing that he does that's intelligent,
Speaker 1: but it's also just very transparently awful and evil, very
Speaker 1: predatory towards extremely predatory um. And speaking of extremely predatory UM,
Speaker 1: I wanna I want to dig into the business genius
Speaker 1: of Andrew tight here because it is worth going into
Speaker 1: kind of the inevitable sort of conclusions you have to
Speaker 1: make based stuff of what he's saying. In the example
Speaker 1: that he's given that fifteen year old kid has no
Speaker 1: reason to give you the money that he's making mowing lawns,
Speaker 1: right because he's doing all of the work to work,
Speaker 1: to advertise and to actually mow. You only get your percentage.
Speaker 1: He doesn't mention earlier, like one of your assets is
Speaker 1: being strong. The only way is to get a percentage
Speaker 1: from him are either literally just the threat of violence
Speaker 1: or gas lighting making him think that like he's going
Speaker 1: to make more money than he is, and that you
Speaker 1: won't be making as much money as you are from
Speaker 1: his labor. And this is true of the cam girls
Speaker 1: to His only actual advice boils down to various forms
Speaker 1: of robbery, and this is particularly clear when he starts
Speaker 1: talking about the profit making potential of Uber, which is
Speaker 1: already exploitative. Um but Andrew Tate, I'm gonna play this
Speaker 1: next clip to you. This is him talking about how
Speaker 1: to use Uber in your own business to make money
Speaker 1: via child labor. Rent a car, find a way to
Speaker 1: rent a car with onlim in mileage per month. Tell
Speaker 1: him he's gonna do ten hours of Uber a day
Speaker 1: to train how to drive. Lie to his ass and
Speaker 1: say that you in the Uber app you can track
Speaker 1: and make sure he ain't breaking the speed limits. So
Speaker 1: we drive safe. Put his ass on Uber, pay for
Speaker 1: his gas and keep and give him half the money
Speaker 1: and keep half for yourself. Bang done, Set him up,
Speaker 1: Get him ready. This This is ship I didn't plan.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you things off the top of my
Speaker 1: head because this is how I think as a hustler.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't need to sit and think. I
Speaker 1: just know there's money, and I find a way to
Speaker 1: get the money. That's how I am. So right. Now,
Speaker 1: you've got cousins out there who aren't driving Uber, you
Speaker 1: can convince him to drive Uber? Well, then why don't
Speaker 1: they do it without you? Easy? You can talk some ship,
Speaker 1: make some shut up. Hey, if you got an Uber account, no,
Speaker 1: I'll set all up for you. Because it's complicated. And
Speaker 1: there's some tax. I'll handle the tax. Don't pay no tax.
Speaker 1: Just why blah blah blah. Get him a Uber, get
Speaker 1: him in cars, bang bang bank. So he just assumes
Speaker 1: everyone around him is stupid and stupid and trusting. He
Speaker 1: assumes that, like, hey, your cousins probably trust you. Lie
Speaker 1: in order to rob them, make them work for you
Speaker 1: for basically nothing, and steal the money they suggested. Making
Speaker 1: money off of women, he sex trafficking, old mother was
Speaker 1: thrown around, little children. Yeah, those are his business out.
Speaker 1: Don't forget the makeup company that does not sell makeup.
Speaker 1: He is forget the finest capitalistic mind of a generation.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's born with it, maybe it doesn't exist. Actually makeup. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's so funny that like people talk about how smart
Speaker 1: this guy is and like how he's changed. He's changed.
Speaker 1: He's changed. My we'll get into like why people talk
Speaker 1: about him changing their lives and all this ship. But like,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, what he's offering here
Speaker 1: is like, hey, rob your friends and family. It's the
Speaker 1: same MLM thing, but he he has and this is
Speaker 1: this is I think, Uh, credit seems like a weird
Speaker 1: way to say it, but it is needful to acknowledge.
Speaker 1: This is an innovation the way in which he is
Speaker 1: He is telling people to rob their friends and family
Speaker 1: in order to try to get rich, and it won't
Speaker 1: work for them most of them. This obviously, I think
Speaker 1: this is what Tate does. He has his brother worked
Speaker 1: for him and his cousins work for him. If you
Speaker 1: are the right kind of psychopath, you can make money
Speaker 1: this way. It's just that even of the people who
Speaker 1: are interested in Hustler's University, most of them are not
Speaker 1: that kind of psychopath, and so they're not going to
Speaker 1: be successful or they're just not a smart enough psychopath.
Speaker 1: Um mat, did you say how much people were paying
Speaker 1: for this class? Uh? So these were? It changed over time.
Speaker 1: At first it was like a per class thing. Eventually
Speaker 1: it's going to change to a monthly fee and and
Speaker 1: obviously actual sales figures you're never going to get, but
Speaker 1: tap makes like in the millions of dollars of this
Speaker 1: um yeah, off of the version one, and he iterates
Speaker 1: quickly by one, he ditched the like courses and picking
Speaker 1: up women and running can businesses to focus on this
Speaker 1: new venture, like this thing that he does because this
Speaker 1: is like the early version of Hustlers University. This is
Speaker 1: the thing that works really well. And so he decides,
Speaker 1: being intelligent in a very specific way, he decides he's
Speaker 1: going to spend this into the main business that he's
Speaker 1: going to do, and he he opts to relaunched Hustlers
Speaker 1: University as Hustlers University two point out, and we're going
Speaker 1: to get into that. And it's just what a wonderful
Speaker 1: and innovative title. It's so infuriating because it's like kind
Speaker 1: of brilliant, like the timing of it, because on a
Speaker 1: lot of people are out of work or have more
Speaker 1: free time at their state of hustle, ready to hustle
Speaker 1: make make some extra cash on the side, and he's
Speaker 1: just like praying on that. It's also like tim it's
Speaker 1: time and way specifically, I want to just emphasize on
Speaker 1: that a lot of kids are home alone, a lot
Speaker 1: of kids are are doing remote learning school and have
Speaker 1: access to whether that be a computer or an iPad
Speaker 1: or some kind of digital device, and our home alone
Speaker 1: without supervision. And you know, the the algorithms have brought
Speaker 1: them to Andrew Tate, and um, and he got him,
Speaker 1: and he's he's got him, and he's he's offering them
Speaker 1: the other thing that's happening here too, you know there
Speaker 1: we were talking around this there at home, the pandific.
Speaker 1: They're they're lonely. Also, the cost of living is skyrocketing
Speaker 1: and people, especially in the UK. This is less the
Speaker 1: case in the US, but in the UK, where's a
Speaker 1: lot of his fans, there's like a financial crisis hitting right,
Speaker 1: like things have not been great for the last year
Speaker 1: to change over over in the United Kingdom. Um, which
Speaker 1: is why it's so easy to uh to to buy
Speaker 1: things with British pounds right now. Sorry, y'all, It just
Speaker 1: is at the moment um. And and so Tate is
Speaker 1: recognizing that, like there's a lot of young kids who
Speaker 1: are starting to come into the economy and realizing how
Speaker 1: hard it is to just tread water and so they're
Speaker 1: desperate for anything that will give them a hope of
Speaker 1: getting out of the fucking con game that is life
Speaker 1: under capitalism. And that's that's what fucking Tate is um
Speaker 1: is taking advantage of, is these kids who are looking
Speaker 1: for a hack to get out of the trap. Um.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we're gonna talk about what he does next
Speaker 1: and how well it fucking works and uh spoilers will
Speaker 1: have an appearance from Alex Jones in Part four, the
Speaker 1: final part of this glorious series. But first, Ian Sophie, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all got stuffs? Two plugs? Ian, what do you have
Speaker 1: to plug anything? Yeah? And um m hmmm, I would say, uh,
Speaker 1: just you know, check out Internet Hate Machine. It's one
Speaker 1: of the other more like Internet Machine. Sorry, that's not
Speaker 1: right at all. That's not what the show is about.
Speaker 1: That's another Cools one media show that I work on. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a great show with bridget Todd, really relevant and
Speaker 1: interesting topic about the healthscape that is social media right now. Um.
Speaker 1: And I would also just say plug just being kind
Speaker 1: to others, you know, being a nice, respectful person in
Speaker 1: this world. It's life is already hard enough. It's free
Speaker 1: to not be an asshole, So I'd say that. Wow.
Speaker 1: You say it's free to not be an asshole, But
Speaker 1: if you consider the fact that by not putting your
Speaker 1: mom and your child cousins to work, you're leaving money
Speaker 1: on the table, it actually can be extremely expensive not
Speaker 1: to be an asshole. You can hear more on my
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Speaker 1: to plug? Okay? I want to I want to plug
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Speaker 1: on that bold and heroic of you, Sophie. And I
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Speaker 1: you can monetize that ship through the simple, legal, easy
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