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<v Speaker 1>Is this a great game or what with the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer Tim kirkchen I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshon, and dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I love your quarter zip today. That was something I

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<v Speaker 1>bought to you when we were at Little League World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty cool jacket. I just got to start

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<v Speaker 1>by saying that I feel like I comment on what

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<v Speaker 1>you're wearing in most podcasts to begin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, this is really cool and it's really warm

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<v Speaker 2>because and it's getting a little cool and when they

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<v Speaker 2>are conditioning in the house, it makes it even cooler.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how cold I get. This was totally unnecessary

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<v Speaker 2>to buy old pop pop something else, but it's great,

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks very much, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, number one thing, if you're ever buying anything and

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<v Speaker 1>your dad is Tim Kirkchhon, it has to be warm.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what month it is, what style it is,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a summerwear or winterwear, make it warm.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all he wants in life.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to be a circulatory issue. I'm sure of it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no reason to be this cold all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But that it's okay. Now, Jeff, what do you have

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<v Speaker 2>coming up?

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<v Speaker 1>So tomorrow morning when when this podcast is live? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so Tuesday morning, I will be going in for my

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<v Speaker 1>first colonoscopy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your first.

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<v Speaker 3>One ever, Dad, I'm only thirty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff, This all right? I thought you had done this before.

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<v Speaker 2>And how great is it? We had the greatest number

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<v Speaker 2>forty the other day. That's so fitting. How bad was that?

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<v Speaker 2>How bad was that?

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<v Speaker 3>That was pretty crappy?

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Dad?

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been you know, so I'm on the clear

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<v Speaker 1>liquid diet right now all day today. So I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>drinking eight You can drink black coffee, I'm not. I

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<v Speaker 1>just started drinking coffee like a year ago, and I

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<v Speaker 1>load that thing up with so much creamer you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know. And now I'm drinking it black and I

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<v Speaker 1>just hate it. But I need the caffeine to get

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<v Speaker 1>through our episode today, to be alive and present. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't eaten a single thing today. I'm already starving an

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<v Speaker 1>exhausted dad.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I come home from the radio job in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, I immediately eat lunch, and then I come

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<v Speaker 1>downstairs and we record is are.

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<v Speaker 2>The lunches still prepared in your refrigerator?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they're still prepped. They're still there. They're ready for me.

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<v Speaker 1>When I arrived home from my colon Oscar.

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<v Speaker 2>How about the last monday I was there, I ate

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<v Speaker 2>two dishes at one of those was Emily's, and you

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<v Speaker 2>yelled at me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know, Dad, I said, you can have a

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<v Speaker 3>lunch and then you ate two servings of lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, Jeff, I weigh one hundred and thirty seven pounds

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<v Speaker 2>this morning. You're not gonna give me a hard time

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<v Speaker 2>for eating too much. I didn't know it was designed

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<v Speaker 2>just for Emily.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was less that it was designed just for Emily.

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<v Speaker 1>It was more that now Emily doesn't have two days

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<v Speaker 1>of lunches more than one day of the Okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Made a mistake and I apologized. Okay, you yelled at

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<v Speaker 2>Emily and yelled at you for yelling at me.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I said, Dad, only what you ate too? It

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<v Speaker 1>was too lately. Shouldn't have said anything to your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>God knows, he's helped us out along the way in life,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's the best, and he's pop up.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can eat as many lunches as you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't eat any today, which is just a

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<v Speaker 2>lesson on colonoscopies. Okay, the ninth four is way worse

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<v Speaker 2>than the procedure. The procedure is a piece of cake.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna knock you out. You're gonna wake up, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna think it's not even They haven't even started yet,

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<v Speaker 2>and as it turned out, they're finished. So it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be fine. They're not gonna find anything, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's hope for good news. That's all we can

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<v Speaker 1>pray for.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've been freaking out about the Oriole game

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<v Speaker 1>from the other night, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, let me explain the Oriole game the other night.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Orioles are down three to nothing to the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers and Yoshi Yamamoto has no hitter going with two

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<v Speaker 2>outs in the ninth inning, Down three to nothing, they're

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<v Speaker 2>one out a way from losing the game and one

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<v Speaker 2>out away from being no hit. Okay, So Jackson Holiday

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<v Speaker 2>hits a home run and they come back to win

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<v Speaker 2>four to three. So we went to Frankett, the Elia's

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<v Speaker 2>first team since nineteen sixty one. That's as far back

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<v Speaker 2>as we can accurately go to be one out away

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<v Speaker 2>from losing the game and one out away from a

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<v Speaker 2>no hitter. And come back to win the game. And

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<v Speaker 2>so it's one of the greatest comebacks in Major League history.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, Jeff, it came on the same night

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<v Speaker 2>that we celebrated cal Ripkins two, one three one. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the thirty year anniversary. I wrote a really long

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<v Speaker 2>story for ESPN dot com to prepare everyone for what

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday night would be like, going back thirty years to

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety five. That amazing night. Also on September sixth

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<v Speaker 2>in Baltimore at Camden Yards, same date, Eddie Murray hit

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<v Speaker 2>his five hundred home run. So it was quite It's

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<v Speaker 2>quite a night that night in cause, and I swear Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirty close friends of mine, thirty friends of mine

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<v Speaker 2>went to that game, and they all chimed in, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe we're watching this. I almost saw no hitter.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the greatest comeback I've ever seen, most exciting

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<v Speaker 2>game I've ever seen. This is why baseball is so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went to church the next morning. Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>and half a dozen people at church had been to

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<v Speaker 2>the game. And get this, I didn't even get to

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<v Speaker 2>watch it on TV because where was I.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you were watching two grandchildren because Kelly, your daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>and your son in law Mark were at a wedding

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, so you were busy watching them.

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<v Speaker 3>You were full on pop pop right.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kat, Kat and I took care of the kids

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<v Speaker 2>for the weekend. It was so good. It was so

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<v Speaker 2>much fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight four and two.

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<v Speaker 2>They run your ragged, but we had the best time.

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<v Speaker 2>But they were both asleep, Jeff at the time that

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson Holiday hit the home run, I had a moment

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<v Speaker 2>to go watch the game on TV, but of course

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you explain, please, you couldn't watch it on your TV?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, because you were at Kelly and Mark's house. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you explain, as a young person why I couldn't. Why

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<v Speaker 1>an old man like me couldn't watch a game on TV? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of two reasons. I mean, they probably have

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<v Speaker 1>cable now that it's football season, right, they have.

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<v Speaker 2>A cecial football package that's not cable TV. Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so you couldn't watch it at all, but you

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<v Speaker 1>also did. It's not even an old man thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to operate another man's television.

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<v Speaker 3>If I walked into your house right now at age.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty two, Dad, I don't think I could figure out

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<v Speaker 1>your TVs and I helped set them all up for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff, Why are we doing this? Why is it so

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to turn on a television and watch it? I

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<v Speaker 2>know this is obvious. This is part of the broadcasting

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<v Speaker 2>issue that we have at ESPN at all over the country,

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<v Speaker 2>all over the world. How do you get the games

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<v Speaker 2>on TV? All I know is I had to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even watch it on my phone. All I

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<v Speaker 2>got was the update and I'm watching Jackson Holiday home run,

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<v Speaker 2>and now, of course I'm saying, Wow, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a it's gonna be a one hitter. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>watched I'd listen to the I just don't. I watched

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing happen. It was dead crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been wanting to upgrade your cable package at your

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<v Speaker 1>house for one hundred and fifty years, and if you let,

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<v Speaker 1>we just need to have a meeting because is this

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<v Speaker 1>a great game or what. We don't make a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of money, but we make enough money to pay for

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<v Speaker 1>another cable subscription for you and mom, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>watch the games on your phone. I can watch any

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<v Speaker 1>game that I would get at home on my phone

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Not an advertisement. But if they want to advertise with us,

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<v Speaker 1>please come on down at any time. But Dad, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say something about this game that I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>now realizing, and you and I are making a bo

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson level mistake right now on this podcast. Go This

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<v Speaker 1>was the thirtieth anniversary of two to one three one

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<v Speaker 1>right on September sixth, righteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 2>Make care whit.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife, Emily was born on September sixth, nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she it was her birthday, the exact date. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>The exact date. So here we are talking.

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<v Speaker 1>About the game, and I was like, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>that was the date, because you know, sometimes when teams

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<v Speaker 1>have an anniversary and they might not be home that day,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll do it on a different day. They do Luke

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<v Speaker 1>Garrig Day on a different day.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Not only is.

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<v Speaker 1>It her birthday, it's her thirtieth birthday this past Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and she shares it with one of the most important

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<v Speaker 1>dates in baseball history. September sixth, nineteen ninety five, My

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<v Speaker 1>wife and her twin brother were born and two one

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<v Speaker 1>three one.

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<v Speaker 2>What Jeff talk about Barry in the lead, I am

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<v Speaker 2>no longer a journalist. I called Emily the morning of September.

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<v Speaker 3>She did, you were one of the first people to.

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<v Speaker 2>Reach out to b birthday and I never connect and

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<v Speaker 2>I knew she was thirty. Oh, this is embarrassing. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't do the show anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>After this, I was gonna say, I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>to retire because both of us swinging and missing at this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even I can't even be mad at you

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<v Speaker 3>for not making the connection. I'm her husband, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't make the connection.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you just make it? Just now?

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<v Speaker 3>Hand to god?

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<v Speaker 1>I double checked two one, three one. It was September sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 3>As we all know.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a Google search in the background of this

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<v Speaker 1>call to make sure I had it right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just figured it out.

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<v Speaker 2>It just hit me, all right, Speaking for all men, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>we are the worst. That is terrible that we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>recognize that.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's not as bad as what I did. Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I had cupcakes for dinner or for dessert because we're

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<v Speaker 1>gluten and dairy free right now, so I knew we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't do a full cake, and I totally forgot to

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<v Speaker 1>do like a candle blowout situation on Saturday. Just dropped

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, totally missed it, and so we did it

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<v Speaker 1>last night. This would have been Sunday the seventh, because

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<v Speaker 1>I dely airballed on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I got the dessert. I was prepped for that, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not actually make the action in sing Happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>So another day fail. Husband failed right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's an airball from the free throw line. That's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got her flowers on Friday home from work

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<v Speaker 1>like birthday weekends, so excited took her out to breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday morning of her birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally missed it on the cupcakes.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, gar, here's what clever people do. Jeff, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy looks up. I don't know who did it, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe this is the biggest reach ever. But Jackson Holiday,

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<v Speaker 2>aged twenty one, hit the home run and then the

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<v Speaker 2>game winning hit was given up by Tanner Scott. Who

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<v Speaker 2>is how old is he?

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff thirty one?

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty one? Thirty thirty one? How about that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that's a little bit of a reach. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that there's something there, There's some magic there.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I was so sad following that game on my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>They were going to get no hit on two one

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<v Speaker 1>three one, Dad. Yeah, all the bands did to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 2>Cal and then the magic of baseball took over and

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<v Speaker 2>it went from what would have been a no hitter

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<v Speaker 2>into one of the greatest comebacks in baseball history that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a way around that. And Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, going back to September sixth, nineteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 2>I was there. I wrote the whole thing for Sports Illustrated,

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<v Speaker 2>talk about a magical night. I'll just tell you one

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<v Speaker 2>quick story from Bob Elliott, my dear friend, Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Fame baseball writer from Canada. He just parachuted in for

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<v Speaker 2>two to one, three one, so he hadn't been there

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<v Speaker 2>for the amazing build up and everything else, so he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't sense the drama. And it was hard to sense

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<v Speaker 2>the drama because you knew in the fifth inning this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be official and that's it. So he

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<v Speaker 2>looks at me, and Bob's the greatest guy in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>but he says, tim, I I don't feel it, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't see it. I don't get it. What is the

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<v Speaker 2>big deal here? I said, Boxer, I don't know. Something's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen tonight. I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Check back with me after the fifth inning. And then,

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<v Speaker 2>of course Ripken is pushed out of the dugout by

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby Benia. It makes this unforgettable twenty two minute tour

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<v Speaker 2>of the stadium looking at people who are weeping in

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd. I mean weeping. He's pointing to people, he's

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<v Speaker 2>shaking hands. It's unbelievable. And he comes back, wife and children,

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<v Speaker 2>big hug and everything else. And after the fifth inning,

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Elliott, my dear friend, comes up to me with

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<v Speaker 2>tears in his eyes, and he says, Okay, Tim, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. That's what that night was all about. And

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I had been there Saturday night, but if

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<v Speaker 2>I may, I was where I was supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 2>It was way more important for me and your sister

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of our two grandchildren, even though I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't watch the game on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Dad, what do you have in the take? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Sadly, we're gonna start with the death. Davy Johnson died

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<v Speaker 2>at age eighty two. I believe he should be in

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<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame as a manager. You look at

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<v Speaker 2>the teams that he took over and what he did

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<v Speaker 2>with those teams Dodgers, Reds, Mets, of course Nationals. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Davy Johnson deserves it to be in the Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Fame as a manager. I always loved what a

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<v Speaker 2>rebel he was. He just did things his way. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>when we interviewed Ron Darling about the famous July fourth

0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:35.960
<v Speaker 2>game Davy got thrown out that We said, you know

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<v Speaker 2>where was Davy during the game? You remember what Ron

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<v Speaker 2>Darling said, Davy was he was gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he left.

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<v Speaker 2>He was still there, but he wasn't exactly managing from

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<v Speaker 2>his office, because that is how Daviy did. Davy also

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<v Speaker 2>was a great basketball player in high school and a

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<v Speaker 2>really good golfer. And I like to ask Jeff the

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<v Speaker 2>average golfer, the question, if you had a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a five shot lead on Tiger Woods going into eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>at Augusta, could you hold the lead, a five shot

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<v Speaker 2>lead with all the pressure. And I didn't ask Davey

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<v Speaker 2>that question. I asked him if he could win with

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<v Speaker 2>a with a two shot lead, and he was so

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<v Speaker 2>insulted that I asked him that. He said, I would Birdy,

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<v Speaker 2>that son of a bitch. That's what he said about

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<v Speaker 2>the eighteenth at Augusta. That's who Davy was. I love

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<v Speaker 2>Davy for that. And you know he's also a math major, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>just like your grandfather Pop was a PhD in mathematics

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<v Speaker 2>MIT undergrad. Davy Johnson had a great mathematical mind, so

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<v Speaker 2>you would think that he would engage with the metrics

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<v Speaker 2>more than anyone, and sometimes he did. But he once

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<v Speaker 2>told me, look, I can watch a player for five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes and I'll tell you whether he can play or

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<v Speaker 2>not five minutes. That's what great baseball people can do.

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<v Speaker 2>I also told you the story, Jeff, that when Davy

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson met Brooks Robinson for the first time in spring training,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, mid sixties whatever, he notices that Brooks Robinson

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<v Speaker 2>writes and eats with his left hand, and Davey goes,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, the greatest defensive third basement of all

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<v Speaker 2>time writes and eats with his left hand. So Davy

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<v Speaker 2>told me that he wrote and ate with his left

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<v Speaker 2>hand for a year to see if it would make

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<v Speaker 2>him a better second basement. Wow, he said, it didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>But I.

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<v Speaker 2>Had to try it. And as far as being a

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<v Speaker 2>rebel goes I'd never heard this story till a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. Bob Clappish, my good baseball friend for New York.

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<v Speaker 2>What a great writer he is. So Clapp told me

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<v Speaker 2>a story that it was six thirty before a seven

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock game, and Clapp is still in the clubhouse. Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>in today's day, at age, they let you in at

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<v Speaker 2>three and kick you out at three forty five, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. It's six thirty and he's still in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And Davy sees a writer in the clubhouse with thirty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes before the game and says, Clap, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here, man, We've got a team meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>So then he looks at Clap and goes, I never

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<v Speaker 2>buy you could stay. So Bob Clappers, beat writer for

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<v Speaker 2>the team, stayed and watched the team meeting in the

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<v Speaker 2>Mets clubhouse because Davy Johnson didn't give a darn that

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<v Speaker 2>there was a writer in there, because he knew what

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<v Speaker 2>he was doing, and it didn't bother him that somebody

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<v Speaker 2>knew what he was doing. That's who Davy Johnson was.

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<v Speaker 2>A rebel in every form and rest in peace, and

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<v Speaker 2>someday I believe he'll be in the Hall of fame

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<v Speaker 2>as a manager.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what other takeaways do you have right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? A couple things, Jeff, Bryce Terrang I've told you

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<v Speaker 2>multiple times with the Brewers has really become a good

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<v Speaker 2>offensive player. I told you what an elite defensive second

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<v Speaker 2>basement is. He's a magician out there. But since August,

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<v Speaker 2>this was as the other day he had a one

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<v Speaker 2>point one four to six OPS was the highest OPS

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<v Speaker 2>in the Major League since August the first. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about five weeks here, and it's just so beautiful that

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<v Speaker 2>the light goes on for somebody offensively and suddenly he's

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<v Speaker 2>got it. It's really cool to watch. Also, Jeff, the

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<v Speaker 2>stolen base thing is really getting interesting. As of the

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<v Speaker 2>other day, most stolen bases in the second half of

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<v Speaker 2>the season for any player is Juan Soto was seventeen. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Jan Soto has never stolen seventeen bases in a season

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<v Speaker 2>in his career, and now he's got seventeen the second

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<v Speaker 2>half of the season. Again, Jeff, we know how much

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<v Speaker 2>easier it is to steal a base now, bigger bases.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the engagement rule you can't throw over all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. It's easier to steal a base but I

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<v Speaker 2>do you find it interesting that Juan Soto, who is

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<v Speaker 2>here mostly to hit, has the most steals of anyone

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<v Speaker 2>the second half of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, are they just he's giving him the green light? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the change in there?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean he clearly can run.

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<v Speaker 2>The bases, right, He's a smart player. He knows what

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing, and guys are picking and choosing a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more. Jeff, do you know who Josh Naylor is

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<v Speaker 2>of the Mariners?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what he Cleveland Gardens?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what he looks like? Big dude, big dude.

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<v Speaker 2>How many steals has he got? Twenty four stolen bases? Unbelievable, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Never stolen more than ten in any season. Now he's

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<v Speaker 2>got twenty four. I mean keep in mind Joe Demaggio

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<v Speaker 2>stole thirty bases in his career. I mean, yeah, back

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<v Speaker 2>then on those teams, there was no reason to run.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a mistake to run because the next guy

0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.480
<v Speaker 2>was gonna hit a three run homer. Anyway, But I

0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:50.000
<v Speaker 2>found that interesting. And Trevor Story, who runs pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>The Red Sox shortstop is twenty seven for twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>and steals, so he's got twenty seven steals, no caught stealings.

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<v Speaker 2>That the twenty seven ties his career high. But he's

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<v Speaker 2>never had twenty seven steals in a season without getting caught.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty impressive, very impressive. And last thing, Jeff, we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this the other day. Roldis Chapman through Sunday was

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<v Speaker 2>up to seventeen consecutive hitless appearances. Now, Jeff, let's understand

0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.600
<v Speaker 2>he's a closer. He's only pitching an inning at a time,

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<v Speaker 2>So for those seventeen in a row, the total is

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen and two thirds hitless inning, so he's not throwing

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of innings. But the record is twenty

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<v Speaker 2>in a row by Randy Choate, who did that as

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<v Speaker 2>a left handed reliever in twenty eleven. Randy Choate got

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<v Speaker 2>his twenty in a row over eight and two thirds innings.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to show you, situational relievers don't even pitch a

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<v Speaker 2>whole inning. They just come in and get it out

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<v Speaker 2>and then they get you out. But it's still really impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty straight appearances without allowing a hit. That's the major

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<v Speaker 2>league record.

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<v Speaker 3>And Dad, did you hear about this too?

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Wong when he first when Chapman first joined the

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Red Sox, Wong said in PitchCom fastball inside, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so Chapman threw a fastball inside. And after that appearance

0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:19.200
<v Speaker 1>he went up to Connor Wong and the coaching staff

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<v Speaker 1>and said, I never really tried to target my fastball.

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<v Speaker 2>What right?

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<v Speaker 1>He just throws so hard that nobody can hit it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't matter. So I can't help but believe

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<v Speaker 1>that he's having arguably one of the best seasons of

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<v Speaker 1>his career right now at his age, because he has

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<v Speaker 1>a coaching staff and catchers who are helping him be

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<v Speaker 1>better and helping him target a fastball. God forbid we

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<v Speaker 1>decide where to throw a ball, those poor catchers before saying,

0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where this fastball is gonna go, but

0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:53.359
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna throw it right now, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's averaged over fourteen strikeouts per nine innings in

0:20:56.920 --> 0:21:00.240
<v Speaker 2>his career. Jeff, just letting it go. I remember when

0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.040
<v Speaker 2>David Ross caught him with the Cubs. Of course, the

0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Cubs won the World Series with a rold As Chapman

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<v Speaker 2>as their closer, and ROSSI used to tell me, and

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:13.800
<v Speaker 2>ROSSI was a really good defensive catcher. But Chapman threw

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<v Speaker 2>so hard he used to say to himself behind the plate,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, just catch it. Okay, you don't have to

0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.960
<v Speaker 2>frame it, you don't have to be ready to throw,

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:28.440
<v Speaker 2>just catch it. That's how hard and that's how violent

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that a role as Chapman has.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jah, do you think that he's making any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of play for the cy Young. I mean, we haven't

0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>had a closer win a cy Young since Eric Ganye

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<v Speaker 1>twenty plus years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a play for.

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<v Speaker 1>This if he continues this out through the month of September.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, because Trek schools in the league, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>had a cy Young season. And when we've had cy

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Young seasons by starters, they always win. And now we

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.480
<v Speaker 2>have a new award Jeb put together. By the way,

0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.960
<v Speaker 2>that driving force behind it was our dear friend Jason Stark.

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<v Speaker 2>Next year we're going to have a Reliever of the

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<v Speaker 2>Year in the American League and the National League, voted

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<v Speaker 2>on by the Baseball Writers Association of America. So that's good, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Randy Cholate. It brought back some memories for me. One

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorite stories I've ever written was about superstitions

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<v Speaker 2>and I probably talked to thirty different players about their superstitions.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the Cardinal dugout one at Cardinal Clubhouse

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<v Speaker 2>one day, and I went to Jason Mott, really good

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<v Speaker 2>reliever in his day, and talked to him about superstisions

0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:33.239
<v Speaker 2>that he looks at me and says, well, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about superstitions, he got to talk to

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Randy Chod. He's all messed up. That was how he

0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.639
<v Speaker 2>described He's all messed up. So I went to Randy

0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Chod and said, tell me about your superstitions. And he

0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:50.720
<v Speaker 2>looked at me and he said, okay, remember you asked me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not volunteering this, but you asked me.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Among the many things, when he starts to warm up

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<v Speaker 2>in the bullpen, this is in twenty eleven, I did

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<v Speaker 2>this interview. He said, if there's any gum wrappers or

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<v Speaker 2>empty cups anywhere near the mound, I have to go

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<v Speaker 2>clean them up first, because I can't pitch on a

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<v Speaker 2>cluttered mound. I can't wow. And if a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>paper while he's in the game, a wrapper or a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of paper, anything blows past the bound, he will

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<v Speaker 2>grab it and put it in his back pocket because

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<v Speaker 2>he can't bear to have a messy mound when he's

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<v Speaker 2>working on it. Also, if there are seeds anywhere near

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<v Speaker 2>him while he's pitching bullpen or on the mound, he

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<v Speaker 2>has to pick them up and get rid of them

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<v Speaker 2>because that's an untidy mound. He also told me when

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<v Speaker 2>he comes in from the bullpen, if it's down the

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<v Speaker 2>third base line, he has to enter the game, Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>in between the shortstop and the third baseman has to

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<v Speaker 2>run in between them. If the bullpen is down the

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<v Speaker 2>right field line and he runs into the game, he

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<v Speaker 2>has to run in between the first basement and the

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<v Speaker 2>second basement. So Daniel descalso mischievous second Basement for the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 2>Once decided to try to get Randy chot All messed

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<v Speaker 2>up by moving around and not allowing him to run

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<v Speaker 2>in between. Mike Matheny, the manager of the Cardinals, screamed it,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do it. You'll scroll him up. Don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how messed up. Randy Choate was and again, great guy,

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<v Speaker 2>really good relief pitcher, but he had some things that

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<v Speaker 2>he had to take care of. And everything he did

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<v Speaker 2>in his life was even numbered. He wore number thirty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything he did was even numbered except for the number

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<v Speaker 2>of warm up pitches in between innings. Seven. That's it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>not eight, not six, has to be seven. So those

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<v Speaker 2>are our superstitions for the day, courtesy of Randy.

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<v Speaker 3>Choke coming up next here on his It's a great

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<v Speaker 3>game or what?

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<v Speaker 2>Dad?

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get our quirk gins along with another team Tim.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the most popular things that our members of

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 1>our family who listen to the show love on the

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<v Speaker 1>state in baseball history and another team Tim, what we're

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>getting double team Tims.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, Tims and want two team Tyms and one days.

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<v Speaker 2>People seem to enjoy this. I know I enjoy spending

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<v Speaker 2>all day looking up pointless arcane numbers, names, everything. But

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to that in a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this a great game or what Dad? Let's go

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<v Speaker 3>into the quark gins.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Jeff, we had twelve saves on Sunday. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>find that fitting that we had twelve saves on Sunday?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in theory, only fifteen possible saves if every

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>team is playing right, that's a lot of saves, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the last time we had twelve saves in one day,

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<v Speaker 2>was over a year ago. That was on July tenth,

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four. But I'm trying to make the point

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<v Speaker 2>about having a save on Sunday, not Saturday, not Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday makes sense? Or are you not connecting the dots?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you taking me to church right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Or so stupid? Yeah, I'm glad you didn't get it

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<v Speaker 2>because it wasn't good enough for you to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Dad, I'll tell you this much.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not have an opportunity to make it to

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>church on Sunday because I was hosting events at the

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Kennett Square Mushroom Festival. True story. I've done it four

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>years in a row. I hosted the Fried Mushroom eating

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>contest where the winner ate nine pounds of mushrooms in

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Really true story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I wasn't able to go to church, but

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<v Speaker 1>I did get a voicemail from you, Dad, while you

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<v Speaker 1>were at church, a butt dial voicemail and on your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll give you the the transcription of what you heard.

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<v Speaker 1>And this morning from Deuteronomy, this dramatic and climactic part

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<v Speaker 1>of the book, Moses is speaking to a new generation

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel born during the forty years Israel has been

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<v Speaker 1>Moses is offering the choice between This is the voicemail

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<v Speaker 1>you left me on Sunday, Dad. I got a little

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>bit of the sermon, so I felt like I went

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<v Speaker 1>to church anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, yeah, a long button dial voicemail.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay, Dad, Isn't it all right, Jeff, I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>bad at that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Dad, don't worry, right, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Dalen Lyle of the Nationals has eight triples in two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty two at bats. He just had a

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<v Speaker 2>two triple game the other day, and he had a

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>three triple weekend at Wrigley Field. The last guy's I mean,

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 2>like four guys in history you have ever had a

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 2>three triple weekend at or three game series at Wrigley Field.

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 2>That's how hard it is there. The last guy to

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<v Speaker 2>have eight triples in his first two hundred and fifty

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 2>at bats was Starling Marte, who had eight in two

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two. In twenty thirteen, and Starling Martin Tay to

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>this day has the most triples of any active player.

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<v Speaker 3>Starling Marte.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I hear his name now, I think of

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>one SNL comedian who did his whole thing was talking

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>about how when broadcasters do, like especially PA announcers will

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>be like up to the plate, Jeff Kirkschin. But when

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 1>they have somebody of Latin descent, all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>they become Latin.

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<v Speaker 3>They say, up to the bait from suntunaming Starling model.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great, great snl bit And uh, I absolutely

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>love it because it's so true as a as a

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>white guy myself. When I used to do PA PA

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>announcing at the Frederick Keyes, when Edward Rodriguez would come in,

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I'd always add a little bit more splash in there,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I love it. I love it, Jeff. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So Todd Addington, one of our one of our alert lists,

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<v Speaker 2>went to the game September sixth Cardinals game and gets

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants and the game was won on a walk

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 2>off hit by Jordan Walker, and he the walk off

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 2>came off Ryan Walker, oh pitcher for the Giants. So

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<v Speaker 2>we had a walk off with the pitcher and the

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>hitter both named Walker, and as Todd cleverly pointed out,

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been better if it had been a

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<v Speaker 2>walk off walk but we still got a walk off

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<v Speaker 2>hit from Jordan Walker off of Ryan Walker thank you

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<v Speaker 2>very much for that, Todd. I did not notice that

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I enjoyed talking to people about baseball,

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and when people are reading the box score as much

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 2>like I am every day, that's a you know, that's

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 2>a shared interest. I love that stuff. But I don't

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>think anyone looked this up. But I did because our

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 2>buddy Steve Sparks told us last week they had another

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 2>palindrome in the attendance. It was thirty three one thirty three.

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<v Speaker 2>So I looked him up. He's had that, the astros have.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had four palindromic attendances this year and Steve Sparks

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<v Speaker 2>points it out every single time. Sounds like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to me, doesn't it, Jeff?

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<v Speaker 3>It does?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know Steve Sparks, his seam head mind is

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<v Speaker 1>always on the move, always looking for something.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the best.

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<v Speaker 2>What an understatement. When he asked us earlier this year,

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 2>after we had him on, he was so funny. He goes,

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I just want to be a seamhead someday, and we said, someday.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been a seammed for years. You're the only one

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>that looks up this stuff. So all right, Jeff, you

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<v Speaker 2>know how much I love to look at line scores

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 2>and see phone numbers. I saw a couple of them

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<v Speaker 2>this week, which I'm not even going to tell you

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 2>which one, but it's a real bad habit of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>When you see a five to one to zero area code,

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<v Speaker 2>like if five in the first, one in the second,

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<v Speaker 2>zero the third, you pay attention. And Jeff say Cybold,

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 2>a big Brewers fan, pointed out to me that the

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Brewers got four in the first, one in the second,

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 2>four were in the third. So four four to one four,

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>that's Milwaukee's area code. Now it didn't turn out to

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<v Speaker 2>be a phone number, but he just wanted to alert

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>me that the Brewers had a four to one four

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 2>to start the game. I love stuff like that. I

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:18.959
<v Speaker 2>love it way too much. I acknowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you and Peter Gammons are constantly always tracking this, right, Peter,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that kind of introduced you to it.

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And Peter called one day and got a warehouse,

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<v Speaker 2>like a working number at a warehouse for like some

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 2>six one seven number, which was the Boston area code,

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 2>which I just I love so much of ur. Last thing, Jeff,

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 2>we had Sunday, we had the Max Freed against Max Scherzer.

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>They were the pitchers of record in the game between

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 2>the Blue Jays and the Yankees, so this is fairly

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 2>obvious for a team. Tim, What's what what? What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you gonna do the all mac?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course? Yeah? Well, Max Stassy is the catcher. Max

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Munsey is the first baseman. Of course, he's played second

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 2>and mostly third now. Max Bishop from a million years

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 2>ago is the second baseman. Max Alvis, who I grew

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>up watching when he played for the Indians, it's the

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 2>third baseman. Max Morof is our shortstop. Max Carrey Hall

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 2>of Famer, is one outfielder, Max Venable, who I grew

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 2>up watching on the Giants when I was hopelessly devoted

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 2>to the Giants as a teenager. And his son, of course,

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 2>is Will Vettable, who's the manager of the White Sox,

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>And Max Kepler, who plays for the Phillies, is our

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>third outfielder. And Max Schurzer is our right handed pitcher,

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 2>and Max fried is our left handed pitcher. I think

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 2>this is fair to say Max Schurzer is the greatest

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Max ever. Again, Max Carrey's in the Hall of Fame,

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 2>but Max Schuerzer is going to the Hall of fame.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's possible that two of the greatest Maxes of

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<v Speaker 2>all time were the pictures of record. Sunday, when the

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Jays played the Yankees at Yankee Stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Dad, what do you have for on this

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 3>state in baseball history?

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<v Speaker 2>On this date September ninth, nineteen forty eight, Rex Barney

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>pitched a no hitter for the Brooklyn Dodgers. And I

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 2>bring that up because Rex became one of my dear

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 2>friends as the public address voice of the Baltimore Orioles's.

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 2>He was a character of all characters. Give that fan

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 2>a contract, give that fan and error Mac. I'm telling you,

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Rex was one of my favorite people ever and again

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>had a great arm. Jeb through really hard and then

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:48.959
<v Speaker 2>sadly he got the yips and really never recovered and

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 2>couldn't throw a strike anymore. He went to see psychiatrists,

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>he tried everything. He even put an ad in a

0:33:56.040 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>newspaper saying someone please help me because he got in

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 2>his head. And Rex Barney really never quite recovered from

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 2>getting the yips to speaking again, to the degree of

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>difficulty and the mental part of baseball which is so

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:18.240
<v Speaker 2>difficult to get through. Okay, On this date. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five, Sandy Kofax pitched a perfect game, no walks,

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen strikeouts, certainly maybe the greatest game ever pitched. It's

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 2>hard to beat perfect game with fourteen strikeouts. But the

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 2>interesting part is Bob Henley of the Cubs pitched in

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>that game, and he pitched a one hitter. Jeff, he

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>pitched a complete game, one hitter, eight innings, and he

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 2>lost one to nothing. He threw seventy six pitches in

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 2>that game. So they played a nine inning game at

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Dodger Stadium and Kofax pitched a perfect game and there

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 2>was one hit total in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so sad because you threw arguably probably his.

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Best outing of the season maybe you are career, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe of his career, and you were just overshadowed by

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe the greatest game ever pitched of all time.

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 3>Right, that's really say, by one of.

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 2>The greatest pitchers ever. All right, this date in nineteen

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:18.879
<v Speaker 2>ninety two, robign got his three thousand hit. By the way,

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 2>I really have trouble saying three thousand. I always say

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 2>hit number three thousand, three thousandth hit? Can you say that? No?

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 3>And I know three thousandth right, I it's heard, you

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 3>have to over emphasize it.

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I hate that one, right, I'm not free three thousandth

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<v Speaker 1>And you know my least favorite word in the world brewery, brewery, right, gosh,

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to throw up, all.

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Right, chef.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:47.439
<v Speaker 3>It makes me sick, all right.

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 2>So Robigny was, you know, played major league shortstop every

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 2>day at age eighteen, one of the great athletes ever.

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 2>And Dan please act told me a story of years

0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 2>ago about he was a teammate with rob Robnell had

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 2>a bruise on like the inside of his thigh that

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 2>was so gruesome, Dan please, that couldn't even look at it.

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 2>And they're in the outfield and he goes up to

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>robyne out and he says, are you playing today with

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.280
<v Speaker 2>that injury? And Robnet goes, yes, of course I'm playing

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 2>today with that injury. So please, that says Robin, why

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>are you playing? And he said, Dan, do you do

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>you remember when you faked being sick in like the

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.760
<v Speaker 2>third grade and you got away with it? You remember

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 2>and Dan please, that goes yeah, I remember it, he goes.

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Robnet goes, you remember how much easier it was getting

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 2>away with it? The second time because you got away

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 2>with it the first time, and please that goes. Yeah,

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.919
<v Speaker 2>it was even easier the second time. You out looked

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.879
<v Speaker 2>at his teammate and said, and don't ever do it

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 2>the first time. So the first time you acknowledge this

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 2>hurts too much for me to play, it's going to

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 2>be easier to I'll Jeff the second time. Don't do

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 2>it the first time. Does that tell you who robin

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 2>you out is? Jeff?

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 3>It's so fitting.

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's so perfect, and it's great for like

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>normal people like us, right, Like, if you think you

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 1>can get by calling in, calling out sick to work

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.840
<v Speaker 1>when you're not really sick, if you do it once,

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna think you can get away with it all

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>the time, not just twice, but a hundred times, and

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>then not good, not a good lesson for life.

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Right, Jeff, Your second colonoscope will be much easier than

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 2>your first one because you'll know what to deal with correct.

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess.

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.720
<v Speaker 1>So, thanks for bringing such an unpleasant subject up again.

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm starving over here, I'm so hungry, I'm so low energy.

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>But hopefully on the third well, on the Thursday episode, obviously,

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I'll be back and better than ever, so we'll be

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>able to handle that.

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Right On this day. In two thousand and seven, Ricky Weeks,

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>JJ Hardy, and Ryan Braun let off game first three

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 2>hitters in the game for the Brewers with a home run.

0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Third time in major league history that the first three

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 2>batters had hit a home run in order to start

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 2>a game. And the interesting part is JJ Hardy did

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 2>it again, only he did it well. He was a

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>member of the Orioles, so I just love that that

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 2>he was a part of that in two different teams.

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's been done a bunch of times now,

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>but when Hardy and Weeks and Brown did it in

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and seven, it was only the third time

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 2>in major league history. First time, of course, was Marvell Win,

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Tony gwyn and John Cruck, which I always thought the

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 2>win Gwynn Kruck was just beautiful, so perfect. All right,

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 2>let's see nineteen. On this date, in nineteen fifty nine,

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Tom Foley was born. Tom Foley was a pretty good

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:47.720
<v Speaker 2>major league infielder who could do a lot of things

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.399
<v Speaker 2>and became a really good coach who I got very

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 2>close to over the years as a coach, especially with

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 2>the Tampa Bay Rays. What I always found interesting with

0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 2>him was when he was a coach with Rays, I

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 2>found out through him that he, you know, he's the

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 2>right handed player. Jeff shortstop, second baseman. He played quarterback

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 2>in high school and he threw a football with his

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 2>left hand. So here we have a right handed baseball

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 2>player who played quarterback in high school and he threw

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 2>a football with his left hand. I've never understood how

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 2>it's a very similar motion Jeff. And on the same

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay team, the first baseman Travis Lee, a left

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 2>handed thrower in baseball, played quarterback in high school and

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 2>he threw a football with his right hand. So on

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 2>the same team we had two guys who played quarterback

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 2>in high school but used the other hand to throw

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 2>than the one they throw a baseball with. And if

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 2>that's not amazing enough, Tom Foley also played for the

0:39:56.680 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh Pirates. And on that team was a pitcher named

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Steve Cook who was a left handed pitcher. And what

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 2>did he do, Jeff in high school?

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Quarterback with the right hand.

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So Tom Foley has been part of this bizarre

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 2>you know this bizarre what's.

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 3>The string of amid dexterity?

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I couldn't even think of it. Yes, Jim Morrison,

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 2>former Major leaguers said he was amphibious. He got amd dexterity,

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, so we used to joke that he could

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 2>throw with both hands underwater. Amphibious. Yes, so I love

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.479
<v Speaker 2>that about Tom Foley. And the last thing Todd Todd

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Zeal on this date in nineteen sixty five was born. Now,

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Todd Zeal was a really good major league player for

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>a long time, hit a bunch of home runs, and

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I always got a kick out of the fact that

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 2>he used to be a catcher. And one day he

0:40:55.640 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 2>caught Dan Quizinberry. So what's what's that, Jeff? You got

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 2>figure it out. Todd Zeal caught Dan Quizonberry QZ QZ.

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:13.800
<v Speaker 2>So it took many, many, many more years when Barry

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Zito pitched to some guy forget his name, not important.

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:19.959
<v Speaker 2>His name began with a Q. But the last time

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 2>that had happened was when a Q Dan Quisenberry threw

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 2>to a Z Todd Zeal. Those are the things I

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 2>pay attention to again, the reason I have nothing else

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 2>to do with my life. And let's quiz you, Jeff

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Todd Zeal hit two hundred and fifty three homers in

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 2>his career, so at one point, what was the distinction

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 2>of the two fifty three? Since replaced by a guest

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 2>of ours last year, he.

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Has the most home runs with the last name Z

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:53.760
<v Speaker 1>until Ryan Zimmerman.

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Jeff, you are really getting good at this. I am

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 2>so proud of you. Thank you. I appreciate that.

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>All right, Dad, Well, tomorrow on the podcast, we have

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 1>a very special guest. Jim Abbott is going to be

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 1>joining us. We had him as a little sneak preview

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 1>last week celebrating the anniversary of his no hitter for

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the New York Yankees, and now we have forty minutes

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 1>of talking with him.

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:20.800
<v Speaker 3>That was so inspirational and so fantastic.

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 3>I loved our conversation with him.

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Jeff, Inspirational doesn't do it justice. I mean we both

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 2>had tears in our eyes at the end of that podcast,

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 2>and we laughed through most of it because Jim Abbott

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>has a great sense of humor. And so when anyone

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 2>can make you think, and he can make you laugh

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 2>and can make you cry all in one interview, that's

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.760
<v Speaker 2>what we got from Jim Abbott. So in his honor,

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I decided to let's see if you can figure out

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 2>what the team Tim is with Jim Abbott. Yeah, I mean,

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving you no clue here, Jeff. And we're not

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 2>going to go Jim's or Abbot's or you know, alphabets

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.360
<v Speaker 2>or anything else. What was one of the distinctions we

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 2>brought up about Jim Abbott that still amazes me to

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 2>this day. What did he not do in his major

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 2>league career?

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, right off the bat, I don't think you're

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 1>thinking about a full team of players that only had

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>one hand, because I don't think you would field that

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 1>full team.

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 3>No, what did he not do in his career? He

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 3>did not play in the minor leagues? Hello, all right, Jae,

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 3>how we found that out?

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Jeff? You are so you're getting so good at this, Jeff. Someday, Jeff,

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be really good at country music. All right.

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I've already gotten over the country western music thing. But

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be just as good in country music

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 2>someday as you are in baseball, because you're getting better

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 2>every day. So these are the guys I came up

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 2>with who never spent a day in the minor leagues. Okay,

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 2>John Olerude is our first baseman. Wo Frankie Frish whose

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:06.760
<v Speaker 2>birthday is today. Frankie Frish, oh Gas House Gang million

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:10.399
<v Speaker 2>years ago. Highest career batting average of any switch hitter

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 2>in Major League history. I believe it's three seventeen. Bob

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Horner is our third baseman. And our dear friend Val Vandaventer,

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 2>who played baseball with Uncle Matt at kathak You, who

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 2>got drafted nineteen seventy eight, the same year that Bob

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Horner did. So the Braves brought all of their draft

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 2>choices to Atlanta Fulton County Stadium to take batting practice

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 2>to know this is the final destination. And Val great guy,

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:44.240
<v Speaker 2>great throwing arm. Val told me that he's looking around

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 2>and he said every pitch to Bob Horner's Towell Guy

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 2>was overrun in batting practice. And he kept looking at

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.839
<v Speaker 2>the other guys who were all drafted the same year

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 2>and said, he's so much better than us, How can

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 2>this be? While Bob Horner went to Arizona State, was

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 2>unbelievably strong, short, short arms, really powerful, hit four homers

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 2>in a major League game at but I just thought

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.879
<v Speaker 2>that was really cool that another draft choice that year

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 2>looked at Bob Horner and good, oh my gosh, we

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 2>got drafted the same year as that guy did. So cool.

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 2>All right. The shortstop is Ernie Banks, and there's a

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 2>bit of Ernie Banks played in the Negro leagues, but

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 2>he never played in the minor league, so there's a

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 2>difference there, but technically correct. Al Kayline, of course, won

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 2>a batting title at age twenty. And what did I

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 2>tell you once about al Kline? Jeff, what a great

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 2>basketball player he was? Remember what I told you? What

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 2>did he tell me once?

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember, You're gonna have to remind he said.

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.359
<v Speaker 2>He told me he was a better basketball player in

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:52.319
<v Speaker 2>high school than he was a baseball player. And he

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 2>won a batting title at age twenty and never played

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:59.319
<v Speaker 2>in the minor leagues. Dave Winfield never played in the

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 2>minor league. Well Ott never played in the minor leagues.

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Famer, though both those guys are Hall of famers.

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:10.320
<v Speaker 2>And of course Jim Abbott did not. Catfish Hunter didn't.

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 2>A bunch of pitchers, including Bob Feller and Sandy Kofax,

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 2>never played in the minor leagues. Our catcher, and I

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 2>must say, if someone can help me on this, I

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 2>can really use some help because I could not find

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:28.359
<v Speaker 2>a catcher who never played in the minor leagues. Now,

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 2>I did find Brian Milner, who I remember well coming

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 2>up with the Blue Jays. He went straight to the

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:39.439
<v Speaker 2>major leagues, but struggled for a while and went back

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 2>to the minor leagues. I think for a really long time.

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.759
<v Speaker 2>It didn't have much of a major league career. But

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 2>if any of our listeners can find a catcher who

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 2>never played in the minor leagues, I'd sure like to

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 2>know that, because I couldn't find it.

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, Dad, tomorrow, straight to the big leagues. Jim Abbott

0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 1>is going to be joining our podcast. It's going to

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 1>inspire you, it's going to make you smile, it might

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>make you cry. And special shout outs to some members

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>of our family in that interview.

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:07.799
<v Speaker 2>And Jeff, let me just say one more time, the

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 2>most underplayed story in all the years that I've covered

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 2>baseball is how good Jim Abbott was playing his entire career.

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Of course without his right hand. I still don't think

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:25.479
<v Speaker 2>people appreciate how he was able to do that. It's

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 2>just incredible. And yet, Jeff, as you know, instead of

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 2>him saying, God, look how great I was. He never

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 2>ever looked at it as a disability. He just said,

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to figure this out and he did. And

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:42.360
<v Speaker 2>that's what's so inspirational about his story, and we have

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 2>him tomorrow.

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:45.879
<v Speaker 1>Wait until you hear what his dad had to say

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 1>about My goodness, you're.

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Going to cry again just thinking about what it's bother said.

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:50.959
<v Speaker 2>So good.

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for listening.

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Don't miss the interview tomorrow with Jim Abbott, and as always,

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:57.760
<v Speaker 1>thank you for being a part of our family.