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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane

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Speaker 1: Never Told You production of iHeart Radio. And as we

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Speaker 1: are recording this and as it comes out, it is

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Speaker 1: the month of June two, so happy Pride months. And

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Speaker 1: I guess, in a typical Sminty fashion, this is a

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Speaker 1: So just bear that in mind, because because we wanted

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Speaker 1: to take a look at some things going on in

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Speaker 1: the l g B t Q plus community. Um, and

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Speaker 1: that means we're gonna be talking about some negative and

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Speaker 1: potentially triggering things like the wave of anti trans laws

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Speaker 1: don't say gay Bill, how overturning Roe v. Wade might

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Speaker 1: impact the gay community. But yeah, there will be a

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Speaker 1: little snippet happiness. Um. But yeah, I totally understand if

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Speaker 1: it's too much right now, if this is just not

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Speaker 1: if you want your pride to not be this it

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Speaker 1: get it. Uh, And this is going to be pretty

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Speaker 1: us focused. But listeners from around the world, please please

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Speaker 1: please right in. Please don't be awesome. We love input

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Speaker 1: on what's going on, because yeah, sometimes we don't get

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Speaker 1: to see the bigger picture. Unfortunately, thanks to all of

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Speaker 1: the ways that we UM, the internet can see us

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Speaker 1: in our interests. It's terrifying but not wrong. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: also for those who are not in the queer community, yes,

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Speaker 1: we do have responsibility to listen. I know, sometimes we

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Speaker 1: or when those in the marginalized communities have put in

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Speaker 1: that work. Yeah, sit back and take a listen. And unfortunately, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I will say it was kind of this is

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Speaker 1: So yeah, let us start with UM trans rights and

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Speaker 1: a little bit about what's going on in the United

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Speaker 1: States around that. So a recent poll found that a

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Speaker 1: little over seven percent of Americans identify as anything other

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Speaker 1: all of this has come with a backlash, and as

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Speaker 1: In February two, Texas Governor Greg Abbott ordered that authorities

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Speaker 1: Not the guns, of course not. And then what's going

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Speaker 1: once again, we've already had this in court, and yet

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Speaker 1: And trans violence is has always been a problem, and

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Speaker 1: But it comes with this section quote classroom instruction by

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