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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kick Golf Live

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Speaker 1: right here on giants dot Com. He's Lance Mento. I

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Speaker 1: am John Schmelt. The phone numbers two O one four,

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Speaker 1: five one three. You might be one with you. Why

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Speaker 1: paula Tino's not here where We had to put him

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Speaker 1: in a straight jacket and he was just too excited

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Speaker 1: So Paul's gone. He'll be different than any other exactly now.

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Speaker 1: Well he's he he's a little extra annoying when when

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Speaker 1: camp's about to get going. But there is excitement in

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Speaker 1: the air, all jokes aside. The rookies have been here

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Speaker 1: for a couple of days, the veterans arriving in the

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Speaker 1: building today. We had our first series of media availabilities

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Speaker 1: a little bit earlier on with Pat Shermer, Eli Manning,

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Speaker 1: alec Ogiltree and Michael Thomas Sterling Shepherd and Nate Solder.

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Speaker 1: We could talk about those, but first practices tomorrow, Lands

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Speaker 1: And you know, we've been kind of waiting for this

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Speaker 1: nineteen season. Yeah, rookies have been here for a few days,

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Speaker 1: as well as some select veterans. But today, John is

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Speaker 1: really the first day that you got the whole team together.

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Speaker 1: And tomorrow will be on the practice field and they'll

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Speaker 1: put the pads on little by little and they'll get

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Speaker 1: to a point where the physicality will increase, and now

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have an opportunity to separate themselves from the

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Speaker 1: rest of the pack, specifically players that are on the

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Speaker 1: attention to who is going to emerge. The combination of

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Speaker 1: what we see in practice as well as the preseason

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Speaker 1: is going to say a lot about what will become

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Speaker 1: of this roster. But I think the coaching staff is excited.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've seen a lot of these guys on

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Speaker 1: the field during the off season program, but you know

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Speaker 1: we've been telling you time and time again, there's only

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Speaker 1: so much you could take away from that. Now we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see them in roles that will determine whether or

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Speaker 1: not they deserve a spot on the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 1: And I think that there's some intriguing competitions across the board.

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Speaker 1: John thinks to watch We've been talking about off season

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Speaker 1: think it's exciting at least from that perspective. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And we'll get into all that and we'll take your

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Speaker 1: calls at two O one nine, three, nine four or

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Speaker 1: as well as well at hashtag giants Chat. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you that way as well over the course of

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Speaker 1: the program, and we'll give it kind of give you

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Speaker 1: our little preview of training camp as while I'll have

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Speaker 1: my story up on giants dot com right now giving

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Speaker 1: my five things and I'm keeping an eye on over

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Speaker 1: the course of training camp. But Lens, let's talk first

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Speaker 1: about what was spoken about today and media availability. Head

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Speaker 1: the last time coach Rummer spoke to the media on

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Speaker 1: so there's a lot of rehashing of of kind of

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Speaker 1: He didn't want to tip his cap on that at all,

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Speaker 1: than the world last year. I think two other things

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Speaker 1: anybody was gonna start on PUP. No one jumps out

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Speaker 1: of Shermoer and Slayton, it's a shame because look, so

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Speaker 1: first of all, it's a hamstring, which are tricky for

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Speaker 1: to get back pack Shermer did not indicatie total is

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's got to be at least

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Speaker 1: want to be able to get him out there and

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Speaker 1: do his thing. We'll see no timetable has been provided

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Speaker 1: that it's simply me speculating. I could be wrong, but

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Speaker 1: you always gotta be careful, especially a rookie wide receiver

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Speaker 1: given they stay healthy well and even also from a

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Speaker 1: gives somebody an opportunity to step up. But if you're

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Speaker 1: the Giants, no, you're not gonna rush him back on

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Speaker 1: But they have other examples of how sometimes it's worth

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Speaker 1: that he was here. You could giggle all you want

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Speaker 1: like a little school girl, John, but I'm gonna bring

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Speaker 1: Why because he couldn't get on the field. So didn't

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Speaker 1: tweaking the hamstring, and then essentially that was it. No,

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Speaker 1: And they feel good about Sladen and what he could

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Speaker 1: that's what training camps about, and you know they have

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Speaker 1: from last season John as a potential backup if he

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Speaker 1: first call on Big Blue Kickoff Live. Hi Drome. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I mean the nucleus of the cornerback room. It's all

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Speaker 1: young guys. So if you don't play them in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: who else you're playing, you're not gonna give it Genora's

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Speaker 1: Jenkins al though snaps. So yeah, Sam Beale, Corey Ballantine,

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Baker. I think that they may get a little

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Speaker 1: bit more work, But I think it also depends on

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Speaker 1: what the coaching staff season practice. If they are confident

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Speaker 1: in what these guys are showing in practice, maybe they

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Speaker 1: don't feel like they need to expose them to additional

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Speaker 1: hits in the game. But the cornerback room is young

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Speaker 1: across the board. Therefore, these young guys are gonna get

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Speaker 1: the bulk of the snaps in the preseason. Okay, thank

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Speaker 1: you again, another day the program, It's time for tweets,

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Speaker 1: giants and Anson wind At Anson Windy ist uh as

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Speaker 1: a question relating to the cornerback position, so I thought

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Speaker 1: this would be a good time to get to it,

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Speaker 1: he says. I believe this is Jack rabbits last season

446
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Speaker 1: in New York. I would predict their planning on for

447
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Speaker 1: Baker to be the future cornerback one with Bell and

448
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Speaker 1: Love is the future two and three. Well, Anson, I

449
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Speaker 1: don't think it's guarantee that this is General's Jenkins final

450
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Speaker 1: year with the team. I understand his contract. You know,

451
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Speaker 1: things can change quickly. I get all that. But if

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Speaker 1: he plays well, his number isn't so ridiculous that if

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Speaker 1: he plays like a Pro Bowl caliber cornerback, it's not

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Speaker 1: good value. So if he comes out and he plays

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Speaker 1: well and then he shows that he can still be

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Speaker 1: a good cover guy, there's no reason to move on

457
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Speaker 1: from It's not like they're gonna be hurting for salary

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Speaker 1: cap space next year when they need to, you know,

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Speaker 1: add room. You know that they have more than enough

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Speaker 1: space next year with with how the contracts are structured,

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Speaker 1: so that's not gonna be a need. So I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's a guarantee. Do I believe Lance that they

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Speaker 1: think Baker can become a number one cornerback? Absolutely? Do

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Speaker 1: they think that Bill can become a starting cornerback. I

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Speaker 1: think they certainly did always they want to pick him

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Speaker 1: in the third round. Julian Love is interesting because I

467
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Speaker 1: think Grant Haley really has an opportunity to to put

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Speaker 1: a stamp on that job. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you've checked out on Giants dot com. We have our

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Speaker 1: Giants Life series. Grant Haley is one of the guys

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Speaker 1: that were featuring this year. Um so Corey Coleman is

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Speaker 1: the other. So make sure you you look forward to

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Speaker 1: that and and check out what we've been doing on

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Speaker 1: giants dot com with with with the Giant's Life. But

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Speaker 1: if Grant Haley can put his stamp and and and

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Speaker 1: grab that slot corner job, which I do think it

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Speaker 1: will be a great competition with Julian Love. There could

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Speaker 1: be opportunities for Julian Loved to play safety and out

479
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Speaker 1: there a rookie practice, he played safety a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He was out there doing it the last couple of days,

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Speaker 1: So I think that's something to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 1: I certainly do believe that they think Baker beal In

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Speaker 1: Love will be staples and big contributors in some way,

484
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Speaker 1: shape or form in the secondary for years to come.

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Speaker 1: And I'll leave it at that. While I'm with you

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Speaker 1: at Love being a potential option at safety, I think

487
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Speaker 1: also part of it is John the numbers game. If

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Speaker 1: you think about maybe they decide they want to keep

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Speaker 1: an extra corner and they don't have the luxury to

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Speaker 1: keep as many safeties. If Love is a crossover player,

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Speaker 1: he basically services both spots. Yeah, Like, if you keep

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Speaker 1: the Fat Peppers and Michael Thomas, maybe you don't keep

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Speaker 1: a fourth pure safety, but Love can be your sixth

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Speaker 1: corner and he can move over and play a little safety. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean Shan Chandler is another guy that made the

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Speaker 1: team last year, and he's got some competitions, so you know,

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Speaker 1: he has potential to be maybe that fourth safety. But

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Speaker 1: I think if the mathematics turn out elsewhere, you figure that, well,

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Speaker 1: one guy could be our hybrid type of player, and

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Speaker 1: certainly James Betcher takes full advantage of hybrid players, so

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Speaker 1: Love is interesting from that perspective. I'm with you. I

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Speaker 1: think Grant Haley has become the overlook corner for some

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Speaker 1: wild treason and and I think part of his undrafted

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Speaker 1: fred I get it, No, and I get it the

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Speaker 1: hype is surrounding the young players who were taken higher

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Speaker 1: in the draft. But let's not forget Haley has much

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Speaker 1: more experience in this defense though, John whether he was

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Speaker 1: undrafted or compared to all the rookies coming in. Because

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Speaker 1: Harley played in the system last year. Haley thrived in

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Speaker 1: the second half of the season. He did well, he

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Speaker 1: earned the coach's respect. So he's coming into me. He's

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Speaker 1: in the driver's seat. It's the job of the rookies

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Speaker 1: to take the job away from him. All right, Lance,

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Speaker 1: we have another cart a little too early to my liking,

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Speaker 1: but jokes, I am happy I played that just for Lance. Charlie,

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. I did wasted seconds of programming. Don't apologize

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Speaker 1: to me. If anything, I'm not blaming you for this.

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Speaker 1: I'm blaming my co partner here. What's a co partner?

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Speaker 1: By the way, is that just a made up word?

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Speaker 1: What the hell is the co partner? Well, you don't

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Speaker 1: deserve the respect of the proper label, so therefore it's

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Speaker 1: a conglomeration of two. I hope you're happy I made

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Speaker 1: it up just for you, Lancelesh. It has not even

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Speaker 1: English Lances. Indeed, what's up telling? Yeah? Why is uh?

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Speaker 1: Why is Wesley on pulp? They didn't give a reason.

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Speaker 1: Has he missed the illness number three or what? Um?

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Speaker 1: He was a guy that was banged up a little

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Speaker 1: bit in the spring. I don't have this specific injury

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Speaker 1: for you, Charlie. Has that been officially announced that he's

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Speaker 1: on POP. I don't think so, right, Am I wrong

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Speaker 1: about that? Oh? I Sawry yesterday when the rookies came in.

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Speaker 1: They said he was on. Oh that's right. Now, you're right,

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Speaker 1: you're right they did the Giant. No, you're right, they did.

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Speaker 1: You're right about that. Yeah, okay, I was just wondering, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what the reason was. But anyway, and we

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Speaker 1: also had a couple of safeties in has we heard

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Speaker 1: anything about Trey Boston? Is he still around or is

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Speaker 1: he gone? Or there is no There is no word

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Speaker 1: on any of those reported players that were visiting here

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Speaker 1: over the past couple of days. Something can happen. Who knows,

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Speaker 1: something might not happen, but uh, for mine, nothing is

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Speaker 1: imminent as far as I understand. But they could be

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Speaker 1: stuff going on upstairs that I have no idea about.

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Speaker 1: So there you go, all right. The other thing is

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Speaker 1: like Slate's gotta hand strength, John, We do give him

546
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Speaker 1: some anka exactly what they need. Yeah, they look what

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Speaker 1: happens orling, And I think that's the risk when the

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Speaker 1: guys first come back for training camp, you know, and

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Speaker 1: maybe and again I'm not I don't know what Darius

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Speaker 1: Layton was doing over the course of the past six weeks.

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Speaker 1: But maybe it takes some time for them to get

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Speaker 1: back into it, and you know, maybe he tried to

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Speaker 1: do a little bit too much too quickly. You know,

554
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Speaker 1: you just don't know, or maybe it's just a freak thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're there. Really isn't anyone to know why

556
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Speaker 1: these things go down the way they do. And once again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Giants fans care about what's going

558
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Speaker 1: on across the league, but we're seeing injuries across the board.

559
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Speaker 1: What the Giants are dealing with is not necessarily knew. J. J. Wilcox,

560
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Speaker 1: Falcon safety went down with a torn a c L

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Speaker 1: Darius Guys and the red Skins, who by the way,

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Speaker 1: missed all of last season. He was nursing a hamstring injury.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I missed that one. Did he

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Speaker 1: hurt his hamstring? So you know he's limited now and

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Speaker 1: they're obviously dying to get him back on the field,

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Speaker 1: so they need him to man. I mean, they got

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Speaker 1: Adrian Peter, but they'd like to obviously get younger at

568
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Speaker 1: the position because AP is not the answer a long term.

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Speaker 1: So my point is Charlie, you know other teams are

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Speaker 1: dealing with these things. Part of it is just you

571
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Speaker 1: get back on the field after being away from the

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Speaker 1: team and you're not necessarily running through maybe the same

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Speaker 1: routes and the same conditions that you do when you

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Speaker 1: rejoin the team, and sometimes you go a little too

575
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Speaker 1: hard and accidents like this happened where you pull a hamstring,

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Speaker 1: you tweak it. But the bottom line is they don't

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Speaker 1: think it's serious, which I think is the most encouraging news. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that's good. But you know, with hamstrings, you

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Speaker 1: never know. Yeah, like you said earlier, John, Hey, um,

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Speaker 1: when does when does really practice start really happening? When

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Speaker 1: they put the pads on and all that is that

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Speaker 1: Next week, my guess is that we're going to get

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Speaker 1: a fully padded practice and at some point this weekend,

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Speaker 1: either Saturday or Sunday. I don't know that for sure.

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Speaker 1: I asked somebody over the last couple of days. They

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Speaker 1: did not have an answer for me. So I will

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Speaker 1: try to get that for you guys as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 1: But I believe it will be either Saturday or Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Usually Thursday and Friday or ramp up days and then

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Speaker 1: the day three or four, the three or four they

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Speaker 1: will get into pads for the first time. Hey, I

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Speaker 1: think it's uh now that Hamilton's is uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: off the team he suspended. I think it looks really

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Speaker 1: good for Tony the lip lip it to uh make

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Speaker 1: this team. Make Charlie. The thing about Hamilton, if he

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Speaker 1: was going to make this team, it was gonna because

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Speaker 1: of his ability on special teams as a gunner. That's

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Speaker 1: where his greatest skill was. So uh lipit better start

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Speaker 1: doing stuff like that if he wants to be on

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Speaker 1: this rong. But see, here's the issue with Charlie. He

601
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Speaker 1: doesn't even get the player right. It's Cameron Moore. It's

602
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: not even Hamilton's. I mean, this is my problem with

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Speaker 1: giving him an introduction. I see what you do. You

604
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Speaker 1: put him up on a pedestal. He butchers the name,

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00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: he assigns the wrong name to the punishable offense, and

606
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: we're here breaking down the wrong player. Thanks dam well

607
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Speaker 1: on your show. If that was the case, we have

608
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Speaker 1: but Jeff. But Jeff doesn't have an intro though, But

609
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: see that that's the difference. We waste thirty precious seconds

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Speaker 1: on introducing you. So you can get. I'm gonna double

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Speaker 1: it just for that, just so that you can butcher

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Speaker 1: the name of the player that is on the suspended list.

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Speaker 1: So congratulations. Yeah, do you go to counchling? I think

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Speaker 1: you might need some anger. I'm perfectly fine. Do you

615
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: see me angry? Listen, it's it's just me taking advantage

616
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Speaker 1: of your phone call. It's all at your expense, Charlie,

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Speaker 1: So don't don't don't project this back on me here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but we we always appreciate your phone call and butchering names.

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Speaker 1: Don't you worry, Charlie. There will always be a place

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Speaker 1: on this program for you. I will I will try

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Speaker 1: to live up to that lance every time, and I

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Speaker 1: will always be here with with an open ear to

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Speaker 1: listen to you. Yes, thank thank you. That was pretty fun.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good to come back. That's pretty good the

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Speaker 1: thousand person now, in all seriousness. No, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even hear him say suspended. That's why I

627
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Speaker 1: didn't correct him. I just thought he said with Hamilton's

628
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Speaker 1: doesn't make the team. I don't even hear him say, well, no,

629
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: he definitely says Hamilton's. Yeah. I just didn't catch it. Well,

630
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, sometimes you gotta tune him out. So

631
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Speaker 1: I don't blame you. That maybe is a nice recovery

632
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Speaker 1: on your part. But in all serious is if we

633
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Speaker 1: take what Charlie said where he says now that Tony

634
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Speaker 1: Lippett has perhaps a better chance to make the team

635
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: once again, I was talking about six to me is

636
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Speaker 1: usually the magic number, and more, by the way, is

637
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Speaker 1: more of a safety than a corner two by the

638
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: way exactly. But I'm going with his Hamilton's theme where

639
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: he started. But if we look at the cornerback position,

640
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Speaker 1: let's just look at Tony Lippett, just from a hypothetical here, John,

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Speaker 1: if you think that they're gonna keep six corners, you know,

642
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: jenkinses on the team, Baker's on the team, deals on

643
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Speaker 1: the team. I mean, you got to imagine Julian Loves

644
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: on the team if you're counting him, and you can

645
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: be shocked if Grant Hell, he wasn't on the We're

646
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: at five right there, Yeah, yeah, I'd say so. And

647
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: then you got Corey Balentine, who's the draft Corey Balentine.

648
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: You got Antonio Hamilton's who is not suspended and a

649
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: good special team correct and then you have Tony Lippet,

650
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be tough. It's not just one player

651
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Speaker 1: that you're trying to remove from the equation. I think

652
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: lipp It's gotta outplay a few and lip It also,

653
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: by the way, has to prove that he can hold up.

654
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's dealt with some injuries, torto kills a

655
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. He's got familiarity because he was

656
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, on the Miami Dolphins, and there were a

657
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: few players that knew him when he was brought in.

658
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: But now it's it's certainly show me time for him

659
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: with respect to that. And you know the Cameron More situation.

660
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: When it comes to the safety position, John, you and

661
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: I were talking about Julian Love his versatility. If he

662
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: could play both, you know, that makes it tougher. Perhaps

663
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Speaker 1: even it got like Shawn Chandler's chances of making the team.

664
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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a numbers crunch, I think from

665
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Speaker 1: both perspectives at corner and safety two O one nine,

666
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: four or five on three. Give them the lines, folks

667
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: who do have some open lines. If you want to

668
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: talk some giants football, Don is in Texas. He's up

669
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Speaker 1: next day, Don and before I talk about the division

670
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Speaker 1: with you, guys, John, the last time I wish I

671
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: had a chance to speak to a few weeks back

672
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Speaker 1: when you had mentioned something with your dog her and

673
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: she took an antibiotic for an ear infection and she

674
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: was acting old wild. Take my number from your producer.

675
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: I'll be happy to answer. What was happening with that?

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00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: All rights in the division wide open, guys. I think

677
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's It's one of those things. The

678
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: NFC East is one of those divisions that it's always

679
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: a soap proper. Last year, the Redskins were in first

680
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: place before Alex Smith went down Wentz you don't know

681
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: his injury. Cowboys new offensive coordinator. I'm not saying the

682
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: Giants are gonna win the division at all, but it's

683
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: wide open. That's the drama of the NFC East. The

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Speaker 1: other thing I want to talk about is of all

685
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Speaker 1: the competitions that are happening right now, going into camp

686
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: and all that good stuff, I think to me, the

687
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: most intriguing competition is going to happen all year long,

688
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: and that's between Daniel Jones and Eli Manning. It's going

689
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: to be a competition going all year long. I think

690
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones brings an extra element too, in the fact

691
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Speaker 1: that when elies there his r p O, he can

692
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: either hand it off or pass it. But Daniel Jones

693
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: brings a third dimension that he can also take it

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Speaker 1: to the house. He can also take off instead of

695
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: just ending it off, passing it and running himself. Your guys, well,

696
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Speaker 1: when you say competition, though, what are you referring to.

697
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly they're gonna be competing during the course

698
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Speaker 1: of practice, but ELI manning the way it's structured in practice.

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00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: Keep in mind on is the starting quarterback gets the

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Speaker 1: bulk of the reps. If you're number two on the

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00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: depth chart, which clearly Daniel Jones will be, you're gonna

702
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: have very very few opportunities in practice. That's why I

703
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: imagine jones O part on the scout team would would

704
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: be my guests well, but but the bottom line is

705
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: in terms of running the actual offense with his teammates, Okay,

706
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Speaker 1: so he's gonna get the defense ready to figure out

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Speaker 1: the quarterback that they're going up. Again, So when you

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Speaker 1: bring up the term competition, I guess my point is done.

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Speaker 1: I get your point from a big picture of perspective.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think it's going to be experienced day

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Speaker 1: in and day out based on how the logistics of

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Speaker 1: practice playoffs. Oh, I agree with you on that. I'm

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Speaker 1: just looking at Eli's never had this type of pressure

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Speaker 1: on him with somebody who was drafted number six, that's

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Speaker 1: looking over his shoulder. That's what I'm referring to. You

716
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: know how New York is. The second he droves a

717
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: couple of bad interceptions, it's gonna get crazy, it's gonna

718
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: get live. I completely agree with you. There's no competition

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Speaker 1: going into week one. It's gonna happen all year long.

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Speaker 1: If Eli starts playing now don and the funny thing done.

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Speaker 1: I almost and and I'll let you finish. I almost

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Speaker 1: feel like Eli is almost as much competing against himself

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Speaker 1: as he's competing against Daniel Jones, because, yes, Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: has to show that he's competent. That's a hundred percent

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00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: true in the show that he's not gonna, frankly look

726
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: like Kylo edited in the quarter and a half of

727
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: football we played last year when he goes in there,

728
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Speaker 1: you don't want to put him in and put him

729
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: through that. When he's not ready. But whether or not

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning plays well enough and whether or not the

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Speaker 1: Giants win games is gonna be what determines if Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones gets on the field with the first team offense.

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Speaker 1: And that to me, that's Eli competing to win games

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Speaker 1: and playing well as much as it is him, you know,

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Speaker 1: quote unquote competing with Daniel Jones. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: Eli's job being to be good enough and to wood

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00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: enough games to keep Jones off the field. I agree

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Speaker 1: with it. And as far as and and Don do

739
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Speaker 1: me fairer by the way, and and and thanks for

740
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Speaker 1: the call, send me a tweet, and I would like

741
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: to hear your explanation. I appreciate it, but thank you

742
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: so much for weighing in. As far as the chatter,

743
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: which is what Don alluded to, I've said this multiple times.

744
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: Eli Manning has been listening to that, not saying he's

745
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: been paying attention to it, but loves social media and

746
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: he's done with all the time everything. Yeah, I mean, listen,

747
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: Tom Brady finally got on Twitter. I don't know, maybe

748
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: Eli Manning will eventually have to break out of his show,

749
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Speaker 1: you know, after his little Instagram controversy. Tom Brady might

750
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Speaker 1: be might regret getting on social media. What the jumping

751
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: into the water with his daughter is that what has

752
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: created controversy? Okay, I don't understand why, but that's a

753
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: whole lot. Well, yeah, it's been a thing. I don't

754
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: want to get into a book. It's one of those

755
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: things that I just rolled my eyes at, like people

756
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: need to just of course, Okay, I didn't know where

757
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: you've gone there. Okay, I thought maybe you took offense

758
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: to it. No, I didn't take offense anything. It's like,

759
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: what is going on now? It's just basically a reflection

760
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: of today's society. But getting ba to the point that

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00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: he's been listening to the chatter, because the chatter has

762
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: always been there ever since. You had a few draft

763
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: picks that have come in. Now, I think the last

764
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: color brought up a fair point. It's one thing to

765
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: bring in Ryan Nass. If it's one thing to bring

766
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: in kyl a Let, it's another thing to bring in

767
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I'll give you that, but I don't think

768
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: the conversation is going to change because every time Eli

769
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: Manning in this offense has struggled over the last few years,

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00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: there's always been the whispers, is the coaching staff gonna

771
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: look to make a change if the game gets out

772
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: of hand, John Are, They're gonna put it in another quarterback.

773
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: We've always had that conversation. We've always heard that, the

774
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: media headlines have dictated that. So I don't see the

775
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: pulse of the conversation changing that dramatically, even if the

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00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: Giants have a sixth overall picking house. I just I

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00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: don't see it dramatically, you know, switching gears, because I

778
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: think Eli Manning has always realized, Hey, when you're up

779
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: there as a veteran, you're always put under a microscope

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00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: because you're not a youngster anymore, and the team is

781
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: always looking to get younger. A team is always looking

782
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: to improve in that position. You could certainly argue maybe

783
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: he feels it a little bit more because of how

784
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: high they selected Daniel Jones, But I think the noise

785
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: is absolutely the same. As far as his point about

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00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: the division, I'm gonna say it again until you guys

787
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: get tired hearing it. Nobody's went back to back division

788
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: title since the Eagles won four in a row in

789
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: the early two There two things we need to happen

790
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: that and for the Giants of draft the linebacker in

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00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: the first round, and those are the two things we

792
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: really need to happen to. Just shut you up, Carl Bank,

793
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 1: last linebacker that the Giants have taken in the first round.

794
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: And then this divisional status until things change, I'm gonna

795
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: keep bringing it to the forefront. But there's always gonna

796
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: be the land of the unknown in this division because

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00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: it's been very hard to duplicate success. Now. I think

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00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: we've had these conversations with various hosts on Big Blue

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Speaker 1: Kickoff Live. The Eagles of the Cowboys to me, are

800
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: bringing back the nucleus of their rosters John and they

801
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: made the playoffs last year. I think if you want

802
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: to play the paper game, it's understandable that those two

803
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: teams should be in the driver's seat. But the Giant

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00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: it's in the Redskins. Even though they didn't make the playoffs,

805
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: does not mean that turnarounds or competitiveness is not capable

806
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Speaker 1: this season. I think, you know Washington was in the

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00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: driver's seat leading up to the midway point last season

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00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: and unfortunately decimated by injuries. And I know the Cola

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00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: referenced Alex Smith Alex Smith's injury does not tell the

810
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: whole story. They also of line injuries. It was numerous injuries,

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Speaker 1: so Alex Smith was a key piece, not the only piece.

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00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: And the Giants new coaching staff, a lot of new personnel,

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00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: a lot of change across the board. So can they

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00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: make strides in year number two? Can the Redskins provide

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Speaker 1: some stability at the offensive line as well as whoever

816
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: plays quarterback for them? I think that's gonna determine how

817
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: competitive Washington could be. But I will say this, Washington's

818
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: defense is legit. I would not sleep on the Redskins defense.

819
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: That team can make noise with that defense alone. And

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00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: as far as the Giants are concerned, I think, at

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Speaker 1: least on the surface, if the offense comes to play,

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Speaker 1: that will put them in a good position maybe while

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Speaker 1: the d n's needs a game or two to get

824
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: a good field for one. And I didn't tell you

825
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, but load up your NFC's depth

826
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Speaker 1: charts and we're gonna play a little division game after

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Speaker 1: we take Antonio, Manhattan is up next, Antonio? What's going on? Hey?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Guys? How are you doing? Doing great? Antonio?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Um? I got a couple of questions. First

830
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: question is in the nickel Uh, do the Giants front

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Speaker 1: two lineback two middle linebackers in their Nico defense and

832
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Speaker 1: their nickel defense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're general Nickel is

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Speaker 1: a four to five, so four down linemen and the

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Speaker 1: two outside down linemen are usually you know, one of

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Speaker 1: their outside linebackers are both outside linebackers in their three

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Speaker 1: four set. And then they'll have two linebackers in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the field. One is Alco will True, the

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00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: other one is a tb D. That's also a situation

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Speaker 1: where they might build a slide Jubil Peppers down and

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00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: play one of those spots too, by the way, and

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00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: then and then in the second area, you have two

842
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: safeties in and three cornerbacks. So right now, would it's

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00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: good some projected to play that tv D Right now,

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Speaker 1: it's either Goodson or Tay Davis. Those are the two

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00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: guys that were rotating in that spot. Frankly, Tay Davis

846
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: was getting more reps in that nickel spot with the ones,

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Speaker 1: and Goodson did in the spring. Gotcha. I mean, so

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00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: that's that's my number one concerned. It's just having kind

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Speaker 1: of like athletic linebacker, you know in the zone, I

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Speaker 1: think good, I mean not good than Uh what's the

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Speaker 1: other linebacker are Davis No? No ol Tree? O Tree

852
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: does a great job in the zone. I believe he

853
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: had so many turnovers last year. Um. And I think

854
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: that's that's our question right now, man, because I know

855
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: that Betcher wants to play a lot of Man is

856
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: to see if these linebackers could keep up man with

857
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: some of these tight ends and sometimes some of these

858
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: running backs, because uh, you know it's not gonna be

859
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: always sometimes um our song, Safey's gonna have to take

860
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: care of the running back and then our linebacker is

861
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to take care of of the tight end,

862
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: and we gotta see what they do. Um. And then

863
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: my my thing is, I'm not too worried about sacks.

864
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm more worried about takeaways. I want to see the

865
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: Giants just kind of step up there takeaways. You know,

866
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: we we had twenty one last year, but I want

867
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: to see them, you know, get in the upper or thirty.

868
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the playoff team right there. When we're

869
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: talking about when you're going up up in the takeaways

870
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully with all these different corners. You know,

871
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: we have so many unputment commodities, but something has to

872
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: hit for the giants. You know, we do have to

873
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: have these these unknown guys just coming and and steal

874
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: it for the show because it's happening in Indiana. They

875
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: had to, you know, the linebacker came in and he

876
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: took over for you know, you have these guys who

877
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: are just coming up and and taking over, and we

878
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: just need to find the diamond and the rough that

879
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: Victor Cruz were need to find them one more time.

880
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: And that's pretty much that guys have a good one.

881
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: Thank you good stuff man. Well, and that goes back

882
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: to the conversation we had earlier about multiple guys needing

883
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: career years or rookie needing to break out his point

884
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: about takeaways. If you look at last season, John, the

885
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: Bears led the NFL. They had thirty six takeaways and

886
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: they had a plus twelve turnover differential. And the reason

887
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: why I bring up that second number, to Antonio's point,

888
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: you could have of takeaways, but if you're also turning

889
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: the ball over, they counter one another. So talk about

890
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: the differential exactly. It's not so much the takeaways. Now,

891
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: the Giants finished with a plus two turnover differential, which

892
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: is not terrible. It wasn't necessarily on the high side

893
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: of the league. I want to see what were they

894
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: ranked in terms of ratio. I believe they'll probably around

895
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen. They finished tied for with the Indianapolis Colts,

896
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: who did make the playoffs with that last week win

897
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: over the Tennessee Titans. Well, you don'na tell about how

898
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: important it is. Why don't you go through the teams

899
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: on the top of that list and we'll talk about

900
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: which ones made the playoffs and which one is then

901
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: in terms of turnover differential, you refering to all right, well,

902
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: Seattle was in, Houston was in, Chicago was in, the

903
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: Rams are in, the Patriots were in, the Chiefs are in,

904
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: the Saints are in, the Browns were not, the Broncos weren't,

905
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: the Redskins weren't, Miami was in, Dallas was in, and

906
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: that then takes us up to the Giants and Indianapolis

907
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: was in. So all top seven teams in turnover differential

908
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: made the playoffs, and nine of the top thirteen, if

909
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: you want to put it that way. In the NFL

910
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: last season based on turnover differential. Now, in terms of takeaways,

911
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: if you want to just look at that number, and

912
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: this is where you get into a mix of teams.

913
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: For example, Denver had twenty eight takeaways but did not

914
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: make the play of Miami. Miami Cleveland had thirty one takeaways,

915
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: and they even had a plus seven turnover differential Buffalo

916
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: with twenty seven. They did not make the playoffs. So

917
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: it's about the differential. It isn't necessarily about the takeaways.

918
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: You gotta look at both of those numbers and the

919
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: way I look at a lance and I know I've

920
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: said this before and and I don't know. To me,

921
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to takeaways, it's a lot easier to

922
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: control how many turnovers you have than it is than

923
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: it is to control how many takeaways you get. I

924
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: feel like takeaways are very often taking advantage of mistakes

925
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: by the other team. Now you have to be good

926
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: enough to take advantage of those mistakes, or maybe be

927
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: good enough to force a mistake. But the bottomb on

928
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: is that the other team still has to make a mistake.

929
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: If the other team makes the right play, guess what,

930
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get a takeaway. So You're very dependent

931
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: on how the other team you're playing happens to be

932
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: doing on that particular day, and the players in the

933
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: field and how good they are. So to me, the

934
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: best thing you can do as a team is control

935
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: how many times you turn it over, which is very

936
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: much under your control, and hope you catch some breaks

937
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: with takeaways, because a lot of time it's luck. Remember

938
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: Stevie Brown had that one season where he went off

939
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: with all the interceptions, and we didn't necessarily see that again.

940
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: So I mean that, to me is a prime example.

941
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: Some guys just perfect place, perfect time. It adds up,

942
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: But I just don't know if it's a reliable statistic that.

943
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: That's why I sort of shy away from that. Now.

944
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: A lot of people will say, hey, there are defensive

945
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: coordinators John who scheme to create takeaways, and I think

946
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: there is validity behind that. But to your point, even

947
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: if your scheme calls are takeaways, you still are dependent

948
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: on the offense making a mistake. Your defense could hit

949
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: the guy with the ball in his hands and you

950
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: know what, he has it high and tight, John, and

951
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: he holds onto the upball and you don't create the takeaway.

952
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: So even if your scheme calls for them, you still

953
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: need the offense to sort of cooperative. You can play

954
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 1: a perfect coverage undercut the wide receiver Robby in position

955
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: to make a play, but the quarterbacks too smart and

956
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: doesn't make that throw. You're not gonna get to pick

957
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: even though you did the exact right thing. The other

958
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: thing that I wanted to throw out, based on the

959
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: last caller about personnel and specifically in the nickel defense

960
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: we were talking about Grant Haley Julian Love, is slot options.

961
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: I also think Michael Thomas should be considered in that

962
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: he played a little bit in the slot corner position.

963
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: He could play safety. So the reason I bring that up, John,

964
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: if you do move Jabrill Peppers to linebacker in the nickel,

965
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: you could always move Michael Thomas into a safety position

966
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: if need be, and he has the opportunity also playing

967
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: the slot. So the numbers game and the alignment of

968
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: who they utilize on defense, I think is gonna be

969
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: dictated on guys like Love and Michael Thomas and how

970
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: much versatility they believe those two guys that particularly can

971
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: bring to the table. All Right, So this is the

972
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: game I wanted to put the NFC eat. We're not

973
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: gonna take any calls the rest of the way, So

974
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: we're just gonna do a little breakdown here and then

975
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: we'll say goodbye on Big Blue Kickoff Live. So I

976
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: broke down by position group quarterback, running back, receiver, tight end,

977
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: offensive line, then defense interior line, edge rusher, linebacker, cornerback, safety,

978
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: So that way there's five on each side of the field. Right,

979
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: we can even do special teams as a final category,

980
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: and we'll rank the teams in the division one through

981
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: four in each category and we're gonna see which teams

982
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: come up with what totals. Now, it's in an exact

983
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: science obviously, because there are you know, it's you're doing

984
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: it on on a static basis. Last year, I think

985
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: we actually did pretty well. We had the Eagles of

986
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: twenty seven and a half, the Cowboys are twenty five

987
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: and a half, the Giants at twenty three and a half,

988
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: and then the Redskins at fourteen and a half at

989
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: the end of the at the end of the chart,

990
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: so that actually turned out to be how the division

991
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: went for the most part. Um the Redskins, of course,

992
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: had all the injuries and stuff like that. They ended

993
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: up with a better record. But you get my point.

994
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: So let's go through it this year and kind of

995
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: see where we land. And again, this is simply based

996
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: on projections. Guys can outplay where we think they are

997
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: and that will change the formula. Really forces with something

998
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: like this. I did so Paul last year. Exc like

999
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: to do a lance this year. All right, of the

1000
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: quarterback situations in the division, which would is your most preferable?

1001
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: I think it has to be wentz Right, even with

1002
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: the injury issues. Yeah, I probably would go with Philadelphia.

1003
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: Also because I'm pretty high on Nate Sudfeld as being

1004
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: a reliable backup, even though he's only shown a few flashes.

1005
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: I feel a lot better about their scenario than perhaps

1006
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: something else. Yeah, I hate the Cowboys backup situation, and

1007
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: I think you feel good about Daniel Jones. So how

1008
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: about we do the Giants and Cowboys tied at two

1009
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: and a half. That's fair, tied in second you like that, yep?

1010
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: And then the Redskins get one bus their positions obviously

1011
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: in flux running back, this is interesting, say kwan Ezekiel Elliott.

1012
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: Now the Giants have more depth in that spot, so

1013
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: I think maybe put the Giants and give him a

1014
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: four pointer for that, I'll give you the Giants the

1015
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: first spot. But hold on, what about the Eagles before

1016
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: we you know, speaking of depth, I mean, Philly's got

1017
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: a number of options, yeah, but they don't have but

1018
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: they don't have a sa Kuana and Ezekuela. Okay, And

1019
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: that's fair. So if that's our logic, then Giants one,

1020
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: Cowboys too. Then I put the Eagles three. I put

1021
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: the Redskins last because I think there's a lot of

1022
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: question marks behind Adrian Peterson from a health standpoint right now.

1023
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: So you would definitely put the Eagles ahead of the Redskins,

1024
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: even though they have Geiss and Peterson, who might be

1025
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: preferable to anybody on the Eagles right well, because I'm

1026
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: looking at it also in terms of Philadelphia Jordan Howard, Corey,

1027
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard, that's fair. I mean they have options. They

1028
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 1: may not be flashy options, but they've got reliable guys.

1029
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: All right. Now, let's talk wide receivers. This is where

1030
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: it gets interesting. U. The Giants have Shepard and Tate.

1031
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have Marii Cooper and Gallup and Randall Cobb

1032
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: and Randall Cobb forgot about him. Thank you. The Eagles

1033
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: are running at Alshon, Jeoffrey, Deshan, Jackson, Nelson, Agalore. So

1034
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: this is a tight one. This is This is gonna

1035
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: be a tough one to rank. Which wide receiver group

1036
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: do you like the most? Well, we can start easy.

1037
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: The Redskins have the worst of the yea. Well, the

1038
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: Redskins have the most question marks health and production, so

1039
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: by default they go for correct. Yeah, the rest of

1040
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: it is pretty tough. I would lean probably towards Philadelphia

1041
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: as one I would, I would head there. I I

1042
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: like the options in Philadelphia. I like the youth, I

1043
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: like the veteran presence they have. I also like the

1044
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: fact that when you look at their receiving corps John,

1045
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: you have a vertical threat, You've got a possession receiver.

1046
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: I like the mix that they have, and they have

1047
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: a young guy in our Seago Whiteside as well. So

1048
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: I may lean towards Philadelphia that department. Now, Giants and

1049
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: Dallas are close, they are, They're very close. I think

1050
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 1: if I was to rank them, I think Cooper would

1051
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: be the first guy I would take. But then my

1052
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: next two, or maybe my next two would be Giants

1053
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: would be Shepherd and Tate, and then Cobb would probably

1054
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: be fourth, right, Yeah, and then you know in Michael Gallup,

1055
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 1: who had a nice second half of the season's still young.

1056
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 1: I'm willing to make this a draw, Yeah, I would.

1057
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: I would probably lean a little bit more towards Dallas,

1058
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: but I could settle for a draw. All right, We'll

1059
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: do draw here. Tight ends, I think Philly again, Philly's

1060
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: got one two punch, can't argue with it. And then

1061
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: I think Evan Ingram he's the next best tight end

1062
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: in the division. And Red Ellison's real solid too. I

1063
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: think Giants gotta be second here. I mean, Redskins do

1064
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: have Jordan red and Vernon Davis. The problem is the

1065
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: health department would downgrade then, But then again, Evan Ingram

1066
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: has been banged up to I'm just throwing out a

1067
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: case for if you're looking at the experience side of things,

1068
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: Washington's got the experience. John. The problem is it's just

1069
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: a wild card in terms of who's gonna stay on

1070
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: the field. I think Reid's health scares me a little bit.

1071
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: It should, so I'm gonna go then Redskins too, and

1072
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go Redskins three rather and I'm gonna

1073
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: go Dallas last. And because we don't know how much

1074
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: Witten has left, Jarwin had one game. Again, that's fair.

1075
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: Fair offensive line. This is another one that I think

1076
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: is really interesting. I think all four teams actually have

1077
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: pretty good offensive line. They don't. They have good lines

1078
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: across the board. I hesitate to to put Dallas at

1079
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: the top of this list, where they've been for a

1080
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: very long time because a lot of the um question

1081
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: mark you've talked about. Travis Frederick is apparently going to

1082
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: start in camp. He's not gonna go on pub which

1083
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: is a good news for him coming back from that

1084
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: weird syndrome dise easy as whatever it is. But tyred

1085
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: Smith's heard a lot. Leo Collins has improven himself. What's

1086
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: going on to left guard? You know, there are a

1087
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: lot of question marks there. Then you have the Eagles.

1088
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: Their guards maybe aren't great. Jason Peters is getting older.

1089
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: Kelsey and Lane Johnson are both really good. Uh, the

1090
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: Redskins went healthy. They have really good offensive lineman Lance

1091
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Shriff's are a good player. The problem is that

1092
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: Trent Williams holding out, because that means Eric Flowers is

1093
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: over there, Morgan Moses is a good right tackle, and

1094
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: then you have the Giants who are much improved. They

1095
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: had a Pro Bowl caliber garden in Zeitler. You have

1096
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: Solder and Reremors who are veterans, Will Hernandez a second

1097
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: year guy coming on. So this is another real tough

1098
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: one to me, much like the wide receivers. I'd put

1099
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: Philly one. The reason I also put Philly one is

1100
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: when you draft the guy in the first round and

1101
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: he may not even play, I think you're in a

1102
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: very good position. John. From a depth perspective, I don't

1103
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: think anybody else. I don't think Dallas has that six

1104
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: seventh offensive lineman that they feel good right now, even

1105
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: though they did draft and they address the position over

1106
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: the last few seasons. You know that both Connors are

1107
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: relatively young still, so I'd still give Philadelphia the edge.

1108
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 1: And then I'd probably go in the direction of Dallas

1109
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: to Dallas too because he here's the thing, despite the

1110
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: fact that Dallas man has have questions, They've done it

1111
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: longer than the Giants. Okay, so you go with Dallas

1112
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: and and then it becomes interesting if Trent Williams wasn't

1113
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: holding out. I could see going Washington, but with him

1114
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: not being there and Eric Flowers playing left tackle, sorry,

1115
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't do it. But here's the thing I think personally.

1116
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go Jared Christian, the third round

1117
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: pick from last year to Louisville. John. I think they

1118
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: slide him, and I'm not saying that that makes you

1119
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: feel any better. And then I think they leave Flowers

1120
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: at left guard. I don't even know if they're gonna

1121
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: move Flowers the left tackle. You might be right about that,

1122
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: So let's just put Christian and Flowers next to each other.

1123
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: Plus Chase Rulier is still a very relatively young center.

1124
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: Let's not forget about that. So we'll go Giants, Redskins,

1125
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: and we are great and so far. Just just offense now,

1126
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: right now, real quick. The red the Eagles have ranked

1127
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: eighteen out of a possible twenty points, so they have

1128
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: cleaned up on the offensive side of the ball. The

1129
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys rank five, eight, nine, twelve at a possible twenty points.

1130
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: The Redskins just six out of understandable. We knew their

1131
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: offense was was it was a struggle, so that question

1132
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: makes sense. And then the Giants come in at fourteen

1133
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: out of a possible twenty points. So right now Eagles one,

1134
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: Giants to Cowboys three, and Redskins for so and it's

1135
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: holding up to the paper department, which is what we

1136
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: were talking about, because you got those two teams that

1137
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: made the playoffs last year and bring back the nucleus

1138
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: of their squad. So when you take that into consideration,

1139
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a stunner that you know, most

1140
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: people would project them to be the front runners heading

1141
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: into two thousand nineteen. Absolutely no question about it. And

1142
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: it should be a division like we talked about, that

1143
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: is extremely competitive and frankly a lot of fun. And

1144
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: then when you take a look at the defensive side

1145
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 1: of the ball, um, we'll talk about it, and it's

1146
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: tough with the different schemes here, Matt to to kind

1147
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: of figure out, um how to do this. So we'll

1148
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: start with interior defensive line first. So I think that

1149
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: includes the Giants, three four base guys, the three guys down,

1150
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: so I think that's kind of you know, how you

1151
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: look at it, and then for the four three teams,

1152
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: that's your two defensive tackles. So talking about interior defensive line,

1153
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: I do not like the Dallas Cowboys defensive tackles, they're fine,

1154
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: but there's nothing special. Malik Collins, Yeah, whatever. Um, the

1155
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: Eagles they got Timmy journeying in there, and they have

1156
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cots in there that is, and Mollie Jackson, so

1157
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: that's really really, really really good. The Redskins also, I

1158
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: mean they have Jonathan Allen Deron Payne really and then

1159
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: the Giants obviously have their were young guys. So I'm

1160
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: confident to put Dallas last here with interior defensive line

1161
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: on the well, and I'm confident to put Philly one

1162
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: because of Fletcher Cox. I just think they've got a

1163
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: number of options, and I'm all, honestly, Washington deserves too. Listen,

1164
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 1: you can tell me all you want about the Giants.

1165
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: Got some big guys. Those are proven commodities, much more

1166
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: so than what the Giants are drown out John no argument, Okay,

1167
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: So I think that's that's how I would go with

1168
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles, one Redskins, two Giants, three Cowboys for edge rushers. Um,

1169
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: I think, boy, Philadelphia again, they're not quite as deep

1170
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: in that position as they were before, but they still

1171
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: have Derek Barnett. They have Vinny Curry. They have Brandon Graham,

1172
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: who's the big, you know, proving commodity out there. But

1173
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: then they're not rolling Michael Bennett out there anymore. The

1174
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys are rolling out there or Chris Long too,

1175
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: or Chris Long right, the Cowboys of de Marcus Lawrence,

1176
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: who might be the best edge rusher in the division. Uh.

1177
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: Then they added Robert Quinn from Miami who was a

1178
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: good player. Brandon Crawford's a solid detailed event Tyrorawford, solid

1179
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: defensive end that um will rotate with those other two guys.

1180
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: And then we got to see if Randy Gregory makes

1181
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: his way back to the Giants. We've talked a million

1182
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: times about the red rushers and and are the unknown

1183
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,959
Speaker 1: factor with them. Then you look at Washington. They draft

1184
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: Montest Sweat. They have Ryan Karragan, who are who maybe

1185
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: one of the best ones actually in the different arrogans

1186
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: right with DeMarcus Lawrence. So but anyway, for me, I

1187
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: would put Dallas number one with the edge guys with

1188
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: with quinnin Lawrence. And then I think you're looking at

1189
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: the Giants because they have so many unproven commandis. I

1190
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: think they have to be last in this category because

1191
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: you don't know what what you're gonna get. Again, it's

1192
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: the length of Golden does really well, our car does

1193
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: really well, or zim as a real then it's a

1194
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: different conversation. Right, Eagles and Redskins are tough, though. I

1195
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: put Eagles at two because I mean, when when you

1196
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: go through some of those names, John, I mean, Brandon

1197
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: Graham as great as Ryan Kerrigan is Montes Sweat hasn't

1198
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: played one game. So you know, before I start crowning

1199
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: their right Russias, I want to see what Sweat is

1200
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: going to bring to the town. And then they had

1201
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: the Marquise Flowers and you know, Ryan Anderston, these aren't

1202
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: Marquis and they lost Preston Smith was in the off season.

1203
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Okay, I think that's fair. All right. Now,

1204
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: let's go to linebacker position. I think I think we

1205
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: know which teams want. Yeah, Jalen Smith, Laton Banderesh's good point.

1206
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: You can't can't can't go wrong with that um. And again,

1207
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: since we're canning Ryan Carrigan his edge rush, you're looking

1208
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: at their middle linebackers, which is for the Redskins with

1209
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: his John Bostick Right now, who was projected to be

1210
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: one of the starters, and then Seawan Dion Hamilton's as

1211
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 1: the other one. They lost Zak Brown in the off season,

1212
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: went to Philadelphia, who's an improvement for them, and they

1213
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: just cut Mason Foster. By the way, they did another

1214
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: team tack you Brown, Bradham Hill for and Paul Warlow

1215
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: for the Eagles and then for the Giants. Obviously we

1216
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: know you have Olga Tree, b J Goodson, Tay Davis.

1217
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: So I would go myself Eagles two here, Giants three

1218
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: and Redskins last. Yeah, I think that's fair. Nigel Bradham

1219
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: and Zach Brown. I think there's question marks for the

1220
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: Eagles at linebacker, John, but you've got experience there. Bradham

1221
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: has been up there in terms of the client tackles.

1222
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: The question is if you really like Ogletree better than

1223
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: those two individuals. Has that pumped the Giants up over

1224
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: Philadelphia linebacker? We were talking about the linebacker zero. I

1225
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: mean b J. Goodson, He's not that much of a

1226
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: proven commodity. Tay Davis is a young player. John, I

1227
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: I still would give the Eagles the edge. Now let's

1228
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: go to cornerbacks, and I think this is another interesting position.

1229
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: The Eagles have struggled there over the years, but they

1230
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: do have some numbers there if they can stay healthy.

1231
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Mills were still doubles, a couple of young guys

1232
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: they like Avante Maddox. Another guy in that category, Ronald

1233
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: Darby coming off injury, is the veteran in that group.

1234
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: You go to the Washington Redskins at cornerback. Obviously we

1235
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: know they have Josh Norman there. Fabian morew is someone

1236
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: that stepped up last year, Dominic Rodgers Camaradi back for them,

1237
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: and then Greg Stroman. Jimmy Moreland was a draft pick

1238
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: out a Boisy State, if I remember right, is somebody

1239
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: that a lot of people really really like. Dallas. They

1240
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: have some good names there too, Byron Jones, Jadobi a Woozier,

1241
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis, who is the second round pick

1242
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: as a backup there. And then of course you have

1243
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: the Giants with Genorris Jenkins and all the young guys.

1244
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: I think Dallas should go on. The core is coming back.

1245
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: It was a strong secondary last year for the most part. Philadelphia.

1246
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: The injuries is a concern because you've got so many

1247
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: guys returning from injuries. But once again, if we're going

1248
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: based on the proven personnel department combined with productivity, how

1249
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: do you put the Giants ahead of any of these teams? John,

1250
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: Because the Giants, as I just mentioned there, relying on

1251
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: a lot of youth. Although we're considering safety is correct,

1252
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: and the Okay, so we're just considering corners. Yeah, so

1253
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: that's more of a reason. I mean, the Giants have

1254
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: the most unproven commodities, So I don't understand how we

1255
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: could put them even ahead of a team like the

1256
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: redskin who you know at least you're throwing out Josh Norman.

1257
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: You know you've got Greg Stroman. I feel better about

1258
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: the Redskins than into the Eagles, because see what is

1259
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: at least you know you have Norman there, and he

1260
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: always plays, he's never hurt. Derby is not a terrible yeah,

1261
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: but he was And I get that. It's this is

1262
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: very close because all three of these teams behind Dallas,

1263
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: I could point to I'm worried about this. I'm worried

1264
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: about that. If you want to give generas Jenkins by

1265
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: the way, an edge over I think Jenkins is the

1266
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: best player out of all. Okay, so then then then

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Speaker 1: if that's the case, so how about we split the baby.

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Speaker 1: What if we just give them all two's and even

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Speaker 1: across the board? We can do that. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: can live with that. I still once again, despite the injuries,

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Speaker 1: I put the Eagles ahead of the Redskins and the Giants.

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Speaker 1: But I can live with an even two across the

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00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: board if you figure that that's a fair way to split.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to across the board safeties. This is where

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Speaker 1: I think the Giants might be near the top of

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Speaker 1: the list. Here with with with Jabrill Peppers and and

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Speaker 1: Antoine Bethet, I think it's a very strong group. Um,

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Speaker 1: the Redskins are rolling out landon Collins and then the

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Speaker 1: chaser Everett who you know, who knows what he's gonna

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Speaker 1: give you. The Cowboys Xavier Woods and Jeff Heath not

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Speaker 1: big names there. The Eagles they have Malcolm Jenkins and

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Speaker 1: Rodney McLeod, which are two guys if their healthy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think they're looking at them in the Giants here

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01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: in terms of one and two in this group, it's

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Speaker 1: close given the fact that Jabrill Peppers is new to

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Speaker 1: the defense and those two guys are returning and Malcolm

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01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: Jenkins is held up, He's been much more. He's then

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Speaker 1: ran by Cloud. I would put Eagles one. I put

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Speaker 1: Giants too. I think Antoine Bethet is a very nice

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Speaker 1: addition and a great deal of veteran experience. And then

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Speaker 1: it becomes a matter of Cowboys versus Redskins. I'd probably

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Speaker 1: lean despite the fact that they had at Landon cons

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01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 1: I'd lead towards Dallas is three in Washington four. That's

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Speaker 1: where I would go with that, because I know Jeff

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Speaker 1: Heath is not a big name John, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jeff heed has been there. The Landon Collins is by

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Speaker 1: far the best player of those two groups. But the

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Speaker 1: question is, does Everett's present sort of bring Washington down

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Speaker 1: a little bit more, whereas Dallas stays. Dallas may not

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Speaker 1: have the best player, but Dallas has enough balance between

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01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: both of those guys. You want to split the baby,

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Speaker 1: Let's slit it. Let's split it like we did with

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Speaker 1: the corner. All right, Special teams, final category, and then

1304
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: we'll total and then we'll say goodbye. I know Matt's

1305
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: gotta get there and and and get some work done.

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Speaker 1: We're nearly done here. Giants too, excellent players and kicker

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Speaker 1: last year in in Rosas. Um. Yeah, absolutely. You go

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Speaker 1: to the Cowboys questions at a kicker with mar Um,

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones the punter, the Eagles obviously, Josh Elliott. We

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Speaker 1: so Jake Elliott. We saw what he did last year

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Speaker 1: with the long field goal against Giants. Uh, they're rolling

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Speaker 1: out there, Cameron Johnson a punter, and then you have

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Speaker 1: the Redskins who have trust Way who's been there for

1314
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: a while as their punter, and Dustin Hopkins as their

1315
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Speaker 1: place kicker. You love talking about special teams. I will

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Speaker 1: yield to you. He Yeah. I think Rosas might be

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Speaker 1: the best field goal kicker of the group. I think

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Speaker 1: Rosas is the best field goal kicker, especially with the

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Speaker 1: season that he's coming off of. And I think the

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Speaker 1: Giants have probably more options in the return game. I

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Speaker 1: think that maybe everybody else. I don't think it's crazy

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01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: to put the Giants one with the Apartment, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's fair. In terms of number two, I would

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Speaker 1: probably lean towards I probably lean towards Philly. And the

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Speaker 1: reason why I would lean towards Philly is because of

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Speaker 1: DeShawn Jackson's return and what he brings to the table.

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Speaker 1: Though Washington has a lot of experience in terms of

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Speaker 1: the punting department. If you wanted to go even Washington Philly,

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Speaker 1: I could live with that, and putting Dallas last in

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01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: that department. I think that may be the best way

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Speaker 1: to sum up the special teams. So defense, we came

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01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: out with five seven ten fourteen for the Giants for

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Speaker 1: the Redskins of five six uh ten twelve for the Redskins.

1334
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: Eagles came out again eighteen and a half. Shows you

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Speaker 1: how talented that roster is. Nucleus coming back absolutely. Cowboys

1336
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: came out at fifteen and a half second on defense.

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Speaker 1: So you come out and it comes out the order

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Speaker 1: you think it come out of talking before the season started.

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Speaker 1: So that's how it goes, and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: A great way to start training camp, folks. Let's wrap

1341
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Speaker 1: up the program. We appreciate you being with us again.

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Speaker 1: Just to remind you we're back at one o'clock. Over

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01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: the course of the rest of training camp, special time

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Speaker 1: for Big Book Kickoff Live and a reminder too that

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Speaker 1: tomorrow on MSG starting at ten am, we're having our

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01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: hits on the hour as we get ready for the

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Speaker 1: first Giants training camp practice, then the live show on

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Speaker 1: MSG at four thirty. Make sure you check it out

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Speaker 1: on MSG network for a Lance Meadow. I'm John sch Milk.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Everybody, have a good one,

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Speaker 1: have a going