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I 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: tell you every week, every time you watch this episode 38 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: or listen to it in podcasts to stop reading other 39 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: people's success stories and what did I say, Start writing 40 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: your own, stop telling people you can't do it. If 41 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: you have a gift or passion, leave with your gifts, 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: and don't let your age, friends, family, or co workers 43 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: stop you from planning or living your dreams. My interviews 44 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: I bring on this show people I know for you, 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: your consumer, your business owner, their celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs, and 46 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: what I like to call industry decision makers. My next 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: guest is Victor Dura, Jr. He's the president and the 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: executive director of broad Mentorship dot Org. Victor is a 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: nonprofit leader, a nonprofit leader, and has been recognized on 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: numerous occasions for its community development work. Victor recently received 51 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: a twenty twenty one Community and Leadership Award from Atlanta Entertainment, 52 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: Basketball League and Slam Magazine for his work with athletes 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: and mentoring. He is currently attending Clemson University and plans 54 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: to receive his master's in Public administration and serves on 55 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: the board for Habitat for Humanity. Victor has been recognized 56 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: three consecutive years as a top professional in the nonprofit 57 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: field by the Spartanburg and South Carolina to Let Everybody 58 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: know we're gonna talk to the South Carolina ball here 59 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Chamber of Conference, please welcome the President and Executive Director 60 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: of bro as b r u H b r u 61 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: H Mentorship dot Org. Victor Durall Jr. My brother, how 62 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: you doing. I'm doing good, brother, and I'm glad to 63 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: be here today here. Well, I'm doing well, man. You know, 64 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: just get out the box. You know, we're both fraternity, man, man, 65 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: we are both fraternity. Him in okay, then putting it 66 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: out like that, but he just happens to be a 67 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: member of CAP appaside. That's all right, that's all right. 68 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: I still love it all the cues, still love him. 69 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: I love him. I'm an old dog. I love this 70 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: young nupe. But I just wanna get there because love 71 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: and love. But you know the thing about the reason 72 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to bring that to the top, because you know, 73 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: the basis of all Black Greek fraternity is about community, 74 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: is about uplift, is about brotherhood, and that is why 75 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: they're they're found and plus education and mentorship and so 76 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people. It gets lost to a lot 77 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: of people the core basis of what the black fraternities 78 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: all that because they hear by party, and they're here 79 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: by stepping, they're here about all these they walk in 80 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: live you on yard. You know, stuff like that, looking tough. 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: Things like that tell us about your experience and the 82 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: values that have been brought to you, positive values, because 83 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: a lot of negative things you're always about the lawsuits 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: or a bad played situation that didn't go right for students, 85 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: which we don't that we don't agree upon, that we 86 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: don't acknowledge that something that should happen in any black 87 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: or white fraternity or sorority. But it is a lot 88 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: of positive things that come out of joining an organization 89 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: like the calf Alpha side As is like Omega Sci five. 90 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: But talk about your calf Apasi experience that you had. 91 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it is at the Universe of South Carolina, 92 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: University of South Carolina, upstate well Man, it's that point 93 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: you tell about your experience. So I'll tell you my 94 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: first um deep um and enriching experience with community service 95 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: came um from activities with calf Alpacade. I served as 96 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: the Community Service Chairman also known as the God Right 97 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: Chairman for three and a half years while I was 98 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: in college. And to be honest with you, when you 99 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: hear BRO it stands for Brothers Restoring Urban Hope Incorporated. 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: And when we started Brothers Restoring Urban Hope sixteen years ago, 101 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: it was with our fraternity brothers. So you know on 102 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: my campus, you know what I mean, we were known 103 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: as the Broods and uh and and we started out 104 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: really coming together and providing mentoring opportunities for our campus 105 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: through the fraternity. And um we did it with brods 106 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: when you think about it, and UM and even other fraternities. 107 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: So we do a lot of stuff with Omega sa fire. 108 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: But we were founded on that principle achievement in every 109 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: field of human endeavor. And you're right that does get lost, 110 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: um when you think about fraternities. But that's where I 111 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: found my passion. UM, So hats offt to cap out 112 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: facade and UM all the brothers um that that are 113 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: out there servant. Yeah, you know, like I tell, I 114 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: tell all my friends, you know, telling that when I 115 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: pleasure to make as fire, it directed me, It gave 116 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: me vision, it really, Uh. You know, we always have 117 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: a fire inside of us, Victor, a fire to just 118 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: first of all, find ourselves and when you're around other bros, 119 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: which I really relate to because you know, you know 120 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: that stuff this level have been out of a long 121 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: time and the fact that you guys have turned it 122 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: into b r u age BRO is guided by the 123 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: principle that all students, regardless of socio economic status, family dynamics, nationality, 124 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: or past failures, deserve a chance at a bright future 125 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: that represents and you guys have built it out into 126 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: an organization that's powerful. And like when I pledge, you know, 127 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: I was getting with government chiefs, I would getting doing parties, 128 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, to give money to local, local community organizations 129 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: and because that's what I was supposed to do now. 130 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that people see it that way. 131 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: See they see it as a challenge. But I look 132 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: at your resume, Victor, I don't see giving back as 133 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: a challenge to you. Talk about your personality, my man, 134 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: man Um, I've always UM have been a fortunate situation. UM. 135 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: I grew up UM in a parent home. UM. I 136 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: have two brothers, one older, one younger, UM, all who 137 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: pledged cap alfasa UM. I actually pledged my younger brother 138 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: through cap ALFASADUM. But I understand from from a long 139 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: time ago that UM where I grew up at UM, 140 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: things could have turned left real fast, and had I 141 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: not had mentors and uh folks in my life, um 142 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: such as my my basketball coaches, um my pastor um 143 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: uh my, my my real good friends, um that were 144 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: kind of pointing us in the right direction of um 145 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: of doing more than just graduating high school and stand 146 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: in the local town and and just doing whatever. 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Now when 191 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: I when I looked at the mission, you know, because 192 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: there's so much, it continued. One thing I liked about 193 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: everything I read. It was like a continual thought. You know. 194 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: You know I broke. You didn't break mission and the 195 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: word the mission is restoring the urban community through group membership, 196 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: which goes back to our fraternity talk leadership trail, which 197 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: we all knew. Hey man, you learned leadership in the fraternity. 198 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: You learn it. You know, Like I said, I'm not 199 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: turning this into a pro fraternity, but I gotta go 200 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: with made us man, Maybe we made us be able 201 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: to have these conversations. The reality that men came into 202 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: our life who are strangers, and I said they did 203 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: all the right things. I was, get me wrong. Someone 204 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: was stupid. Okay, you know what I'm talking about, Victor. 205 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: Someone was stupid. But in the end, when you crossed 206 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: and you became, when you was able to define yourself 207 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: as a man victor and defining yourself and your other 208 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: brothers listen to you and say, hey, man, we have 209 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: a bigger calling, a bigger cause. And that's where you 210 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: Also in your mission statement you talk about spiritual guidance, 211 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: and that's the last thing you say in your mission statement. 212 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: Why is that so important? Man um? Even though it's 213 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: mentioned last, it's the most important piece um of brothers 214 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: restoring urban hope. When you think about hope, you think 215 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: about the spirit of the man, and you gotta have 216 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: a strong spirit. You gotta have a fighting spirit, You 217 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: have to have a positive spirit. Um. You have to 218 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: have a uh in my case, a spirit of God 219 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: Um in order to have hope in this world that 220 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: we live in. UM. So as we talk about building 221 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: the man um or or the female because we serve 222 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: females too. When you when you talk about building them 223 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: up to teach them leadership skills, UM, to to teach 224 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: them um or try and mentor them. You you, you, 225 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: you have to deal with the spirit of that person too. 226 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: And that's that's their health, UM, that's their mental spirit, 227 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: that's their um. You know that spirituality, UM is everything 228 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: that makes up that person. So we have to deal 229 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: with that also, especially our young black African American brothers 230 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: and sisters. We really have to deal with the spirit 231 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: before we even start talking about restoring hope. You know, Victor, 232 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: when I when I look at you, you know, first 233 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: of all, I'm proud of you, okay, proud of because 234 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: you're younger than me. I always tell people my path 235 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: is to make your path easier. And just what you're 236 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: doing for people in your mentorship campaigns male and female, 237 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: and you know, being recognized for your community developing work. 238 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: You know, you're on the board of habitaty man It 239 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: for Humanity. How does that? Um? You know, do you 240 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: have time for anything? Bro? That's what I'm saying. You 241 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: do you have time? You know? Because I'm to tell 242 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: you I left out a lot of stuff. Okay, I 243 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: just went through and say, Okay, this is recognized. You 244 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: are a busy man, and your service, Victor is to 245 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: the community. And then I go back to that because 246 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: that gets lost because when I grew up, you know, 247 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: there were people who I grew up in the hood 248 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: with a filth war Texas and we moved to a betterhood, 249 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, it was just so much 250 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: money didn't get you out of the original hood. But 251 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: along the way, there were teachers who kept me right, 252 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, told me, hey, you you you unique, you 253 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: have unique skills. Who are the people who kept you 254 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: focused early on you know, like because I know, I 255 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: can tell you for I can tell you my sixth 256 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: grade teacher stopped me in the hallway. I can remember 257 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: that very clearly. I can remember my eighth grade teacher 258 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: always used to just pour into me knowledge. I can 259 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: remember my band is Structor, you know, Mr King. I 260 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: can remember Ms. Trailer who was my biology teacher. Ris 261 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: Nelson who was my math teaching. I hated math and 262 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: my degree in college math. Okay, and so so these 263 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: people poured into me, and now you're pouring into the 264 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: community who poured into you, Victor h Um I had 265 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: three phases in life where I can point back to 266 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: that were very impactful. Um. It was my basketball career. 267 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: When I was in high school. UM, getting ready to 268 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: go to college and get my first scholarship playing basketball. UM. 269 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: I had a coach that that really really showed tough love. UM. 270 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: He didn't let me off the hook for anything. His 271 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: name is Coach how McManus, UM, and I still remember 272 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: vividly the first camp UM that he put me out 273 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: of because I had some disciplinary issues and but but one, 274 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: but what but what he did was put his foot down. 275 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: And now I looked back on it, he was teaching 276 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: me a lesson of discipline. And when I was at 277 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: home waiting for everybody else to come back from Kemp, 278 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: all I kept wanting back in my mind was, Man, 279 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm missing out on an opportunity. And he didn't give 280 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: up on me. You know what I mean that they 281 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: came back, They checked up on me once everybody got back. 282 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: But I learned my lesson early. UM. I had another mentor. 283 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: His name is Jermaine Grave. He's actually a brove George. UM, 284 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: He's a he's an omega and he was one of 285 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: the guys in the neighborhood that actually Um graduated with 286 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: honors and went off to college. So that was somebody 287 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: that we were able to look at and see like, wow, 288 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: he did it. And he took me under his wing, 289 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: and he told me a long time ago, he told me, 290 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: and we still had his conversation to this day. He said, 291 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: you always had that leadership quality. And he said, it's 292 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: up to you, you know how far you go. And 293 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: I just remember taking us to church and you know, 294 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: really showing us what college life was like on his campus. 295 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: And then third and then that third phase was in 296 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: my work field, which is one of the most important 297 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: phases that I went through. I worked in corporate UM 298 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: for a little bit about eight and a half years. 299 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: But I met two young I met two brothers UM. 300 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: One of them is your fraternity brother and and another 301 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: one UM is in management, still with the same company. 302 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: But they always would tell me, don't ever ever ever 303 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: put your hope in man, Don't you ever do it, 304 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: especially in this arena. And and they taught me how 305 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: to play the game. They taught me how to speak 306 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: the language, they taught me how to not be so 307 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: uh caught up in my feelings per se with certain 308 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: things that were going on in the work place. But 309 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: to always outthink, um, you're a present, and those kinds 310 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: of things right there help me maneuver in the space 311 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: that I'm in now as far as relationship building, working 312 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: in on the professional setting, and also giving that knowledge 313 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: back to some of our youth UM that are headed 314 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: into college and or graduating UM college. So as I 315 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: think about those three phases, those are far people that 316 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: I can say we'll be on a shadow of a doubt, 317 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: I still stay in touch with to this data add 318 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: a major impact on my life. Look at your children's 319 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: eyes to see the true magic of a forest. It's 320 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: a storybook world for them. You look and see a tree, 321 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: They see the wrinkled face of a wizard with arms 322 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: outstretched to the sky. They see treasure and pebbles, They 323 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: see a windy path that could lead to adventure. And 324 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: they see you and they're fearless. Guide. 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Welcome 335 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: out in the machines and we're live here outside the 336 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: Perez family home, just waiting for the And there they go, 337 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: almost on time. This morning. Mom is coming out the 338 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: front door, strong with a double armed kid carry. Looks 339 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: like dad has the bags. Daughter is bringing up the rear. 340 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: Oh but the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys 341 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: are everywhere. Oh but mom has just nailed the perfect 342 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: car seat buckle for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, 343 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: who looks to be about nine or ten, has secured 344 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: herself in the booster seat. Ted szips the bad clothes 345 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: and they're off. But looks like Mom doesn't realize her 346 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: coffee cup is still on the roof of the car. 347 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: And there it goes. Oh, that's a shame. That mug 348 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: was a fan favorite. Don't sweat the small stuff. Just 349 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 1: nailed the big stuff like making sure your kids are 350 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: buckled correctly in the right seat for their agent's eyes. 351 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: Learn more n h t s A dot gov slash 352 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: the Right Seat visits n h s A dot gov 353 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: slash the Right Seat. Brought to you by Mitza and 354 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: the ad Council. Cool. I'm talking to Victor doer jr. Uh. 355 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: You know he's the president executive director of broad Mentorship 356 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: dot org. Now I'm kind of confused now, brought to 357 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: I gotta be really honest about this. He justn't mentioned 358 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: to Omega men that they were valuable in his life 359 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: that pointed him in the right direction. But obviously he 360 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: came here. Obviously he was directed by his older brother 361 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: who told him new new part that he became a 362 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: new I'm trying to figure out out. I just had 363 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: to bring that out. He's gonna mention to another mega man. 364 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: Gotta give you credit. That to a mega man kept 365 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: me on the right track. But man, that's important. That's why, 366 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: that's why it's so beautiful you to say that, because 367 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: at the beginning of our interview, I was just talking 368 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: about the role that fraternal men played in the community 369 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: that we don't get credit for. Not that we're looking 370 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: for credit, don't get me wrong, But there's so many 371 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: like HBCUs get that don't get respect for the education 372 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: that they provide and the people that they have working 373 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: in this country and just changing the conference of the country. Now, 374 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: education still is important to you. Now you went to 375 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: the universe of South Carolina? Is that the game Cocks? 376 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: That's the Game car Okay, cool, I'm trying to figure out. 377 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: I gotta listen you, Brick. Now you're over at Clemson. 378 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: How are you doing all this? Man? How you getting 379 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: help from the brothers of Megasi fire? You go to 380 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: your versus South Carolina. Now you're over Clemson University. You 381 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: all over the place. Victor talked to me, man, what's 382 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: going on with you? Ben? Um? So so so at 383 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: USC Upstate, which is uh an extenching of USC, but 384 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: it's here in my hometown and spart Berth was that. 385 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: That's where I got my Nonprofit Administration and Management degree. UM. 386 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: That's how I got into the field UM that I'm 387 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: am in today. And with Clemson UM, they have an 388 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: excellent UM UM Master MP a program that focuses on 389 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: nonprofit UM work, and so it was just a good 390 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: match UM for for the skill set that I'm looking 391 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: for UM as far as nonprofit work goes and the 392 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: administrative space. Now, now, why do you have to go 393 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: further with the academic training one? We say, hey, man, 394 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: you got all you get at awards. What you're accomplishing? 395 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: You know? You you know, you your fluent, you articulate, 396 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: you have a you know are you going with your life? 397 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: Why does want you to continue education in this platform? Right? UM? 398 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: So when you think about nonprofit work UM. I know 399 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: a lot of people think about the services UM. A 400 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: lot of people think about UM. You know, the the 401 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: volunteers UM. A lot of people think about UM the 402 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: ways that different nonprofits affect people's life. UM. But UM, 403 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: when you talk to a lot of nonprofit professionals in 404 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: the administration UM space, UM, you'll hear UM lingos such 405 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: as grant writing, capacity, abuilding, UM. You will hear lingos 406 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: such as UM you know, fundraising, endowments UM. A lot 407 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: of backhouse administrative work UM that that comes with the 408 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: different I R s UM, UM stipulations and things on 409 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: raising money. And that's those are our our specialties UM 410 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: and our skill set UM that a lot of our 411 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: African American UM nonprofit professionals UM, and it's you know, 412 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: it's it's across the board UM. From an equity standpoint, 413 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of those skills UM. And 414 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: we have a lot of good works. We have a 415 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: lot of great programs, and we run a lot of 416 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: good programs UM. But when you look at the fundraising 417 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: and the amount of money that is out there, you 418 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 1: really have to know your stuff. UM. You really have 419 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: to understand what you're getting into UM when you're trying 420 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: to raise you know, to three million dollars a year, 421 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: which is ultimately, uh my goal for our nonprofits. So 422 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: I just want to be ahead of the game, especially 423 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 1: UM in the movement that we're in right now, the 424 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: post COVID UM slash Black Lives Matter movement where they're 425 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: looking for African American all run organizations that have their 426 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: stuff together, And we just want to make sure that 427 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: we're in a in a place and in a space 428 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: where we're comfortable. When you say, hey, Vick, I got 429 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: a million dollars I want to give to you, can 430 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: you do you have the capacity? Do you have the 431 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: knowledge base? Do you have the skill set to even 432 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: manage that? UM? So That's what I've dedicated my education 433 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: towards um really understanding the space and and being a 434 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: master of my faith and the captain of my soul. 435 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: Hey man, come on now, you have me on land 436 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: in a minute for him being limp. I love it, man. 437 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad you joined in ifew man, because I appreciate 438 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: your youth, your spirit. We talked about the mission of 439 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: broad Membership dot org. Now the vision, you know, the 440 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: vision is through UH your mentory program us desire to 441 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: make personal connections that inspired those in the urban communities 442 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: to discover who they are. That's important because sometimes I know, 443 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: you know all I can see, man, what I saw 444 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: on TV or what happened down the street. And sometimes 445 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: what happened down street wasn't always what I wanted to be. 446 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: But I didn't have an option to see what I 447 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: could be. And so that means developing their strengths and 448 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: overcome their challenges. Like you said, like I'm like I'm 449 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: talking about and I'm not telling anybody. Look, man, I 450 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: didn't come from the I didn't I went in the gang. 451 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: I didn't have to deal with drugs on the corner. 452 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but I have to deal. I deal. 453 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: I dealt with the situation that led to a lot 454 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: of unsafe situations. And that's what we're talking about. We're 455 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: talking about where you know, we had to be on 456 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: the porch before the light went out. Okay, that was demand. 457 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: And when I look at what you're doing with deals 458 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: with young girls and ball boys, elementary to middle school, now, 459 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: that's what that has always been considered a very important 460 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: era to capture young minds elementary to middle school because 461 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: they've always said that once they get in high school 462 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: sometimes that spirit can be lost and the direction of 463 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: failure has been so defined that it cannot be turned around. 464 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: Not saying is it possible, but if you can catch 465 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: them early, you can catch a larger number to keep 466 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: them straight. Am I writing my definition of that tour right? 467 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: And I do want to um to say that our 468 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: main focus is on the seventeen through four year olds. However, however, 469 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: to your point, we do have a lot of partnerships 470 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: within the community. A lot of our programmatic partnerships and 471 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: community partnerships are with the age range that you talked about, 472 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: and you are absolutely right, um. They say that if 473 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: you want to teach a person a different language. Um, 474 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: you can't do it when they turn fifteen, sixteen and up, 475 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: and you're definitely not gonna do it when they get older. 476 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: If you want to teach a person a different language, 477 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: you teach them when they're a baby all the way up. 478 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: Because it's easier to retain, it's easier to mold the mind. Um, 479 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: it's easier, uh to to as they say, it's it's easier, 480 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: um to to to build up a kid than break 481 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: a man. You know what I'm saying, And and and 482 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: and yes, you have to capture them at that early age. Um. 483 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: But for Brothers restoring Urban Hope, what we saw because 484 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: we work in an area where there are thousands I 485 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: mean when I say thousands, there are. There are thousands 486 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: of youth that are being served by the Boys and 487 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: Girls Clubs, the Big Brothers, Big Sisters, and the Boy 488 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: Scouts of America, and all of them fit that age 489 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: range that we just talked about, that younger age range 490 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: where Brothers were Storing Urban Hope found an opportunity and 491 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: we said we wanted to fill the space of is 492 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: what happens when those kids age out of that program 493 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: at seventeen years old? I'm gonna tell you what happens. 494 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: We start to treat them like adults. We start to 495 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: put them in an adult system. We we we expect 496 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: them to make adult decisions. Those cute little babies that 497 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: you were training up when they were sixteen, and you 498 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: love them when they were sixteen. Now society hates them 499 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: now that they got a little beard and a little mustache, 500 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, a little spot you know that they stay in, 501 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: or you know, got their license or whatever the case 502 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: may be. But that's one of the most pivotal times 503 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: for my area because what happens is they fall into 504 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: that economic that racial equity, economic mobility UM cycle. Right. 505 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is that that's where 506 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: the those numbers stop popping up homelessness, under underpaid, um 507 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: uh uh, not being able to get a job or 508 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: get into school. Those are our seventeen through twenty four 509 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: year olds that you're seeing popping up in that racial 510 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: equity report, And those are the folks that we are 511 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: really trying to capture and sitting in the gap for them. Um. 512 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure you'll get to me talking about 513 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: the different services we offer them, but that's that's the 514 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: main focus. Of brothers restoring up their hope, because that's 515 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 1: where a lot of hope is lost. I wanted to 516 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: seventeen thros. I want to talk because I know we 517 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: getting close to the end. I want to say two things, 518 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: and then I want you to talk about your services. 519 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: Uh if you don't when you get to that seventeen 520 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: you've been rejected, you've been told I got you, You've 521 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: been said, hey man, I'll be right back, don't come back. 522 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: You've been just in Fried Chap franchise. As a as 523 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: a young man, you've been discouraged. You've been emotionally and 524 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: maybe physically kicked to the curve. And I know this 525 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: for a fact. You have to make a commitment to 526 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: these boys or young men because they're boys, they're really 527 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: boys because they didn't they didn't get to live a 528 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: normal life where they could cry, where they could hug, 529 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: where they can see failure and somebody picked their spirit 530 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: back up and give them hope to make it. It's 531 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: all right to make a mistake. And so when I 532 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: when I and so what I know the journey that 533 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: you're dealing with, man is emotionally so challenging, because you 534 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: can't have a day off, Victor, Not for these boys. 535 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: You can't because that day you have off is the 536 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: day could be the worst day of life for the 537 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: kid that you had awful. And I remember, man, that 538 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: uh I remember when I first went into a program 539 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: like that in Houston, Texas and came in, I spoke. 540 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: The boys didn't say nothing. They looked at me, go, okay, 541 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: thank you. I said, what's what's out? Well? You know, 542 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: I know you. You feel good about yourself? I hope. 543 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: So because they come in here all the time, do 544 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: these little speeches like you do, and don't come back 545 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: then not realize right there when that little kid said, 546 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: and he was looking like six three to four, right, 547 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: these ain't a little little kids. But like you said, 548 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: they've they've they've transcended into manhood and people start treating 549 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: them like man. But they have the development of a 550 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: child life scales how to communicate what's my next decision? 551 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: So they're susceptible to making mistakes they can't recover from. 552 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: That's what you're dealing with every day. And that's seventeen 553 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: twenty four age group. What gets you going, man, Victor, 554 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 1: because they can be so frustrating, brother, it could be 555 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: so breaking, emotionally breaking for you, and then you have 556 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: these services closers out by talking about this. Man, I'm 557 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: so proud of you spending time to tell me about 558 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: your story. But especially they brought mentorship dot org store, 559 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: which is available. You can go there is go to 560 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: that website. It's available on that website. Because I broadcast 561 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: on all these HBCU schools and and my whole thing 562 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: is to allow people to understand you as value. You know, 563 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: you're in the heart of HBCU all this area. So 564 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: but man, speak your peace, man, so we can get 565 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: out of here. Man. Absolutely. Um. You spoke on something 566 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: a little earlier and you said, Um, you have to 567 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, understand your why, and you have to know 568 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: your why and who you are. And it's it's one 569 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: of those situations where I meet with a lot of 570 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: youth all the time and through different partnerships, whether it 571 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: be d j J, DSS UM, the Alternative schools, UM, 572 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: the regular schools, the colleges, and you know, we meet 573 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: folks who just got out of prison all the way 574 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: to folks who are two kids who are about to 575 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: go to law school. So it's an array of kids. 576 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: But one thing that I always not understood, and we're 577 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: still trying to understand. This is when you ask a 578 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: kid why and what's your why, they put their head 579 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: down in and thinking about it, and a lot of 580 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: times eight times out of ten or eight kids out 581 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: of ten, they can't tell you there why they don't 582 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: understand their purpose and what we want to do through 583 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: our services. Because we don't do this just Victor and 584 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: my staff of six. We have volunteers that range from 585 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: three to four hundred volunteers throughout the community that we 586 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: can call on at any given time to give a 587 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: kid what they need at that time. And we do 588 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: group mentoring, so it's not one to one mentoring. So 589 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: when we show we show up in huge numbers. For instance, 590 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: at our summit program with Spark Berk Methodist College, UM, 591 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: we have a program that really caters towards those first 592 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: generational college students that have either about to flunk out 593 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: the first semester of college and or on the brink 594 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: of dropping out of college. And we showed up with 595 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, forty or fifty of our first generational college 596 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: volunteers to really pour into those youths. We went over 597 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: study habits, we go over relationship building with your professor, 598 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: understanding how to sit up at the front not the back, 599 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: Understanding where your resources and pockets folks are on campus 600 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: that can actually assist you with your tutoring needs. Or 601 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: if you have an issue with a computer, you don't 602 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: have a computer, who you need to go to to 603 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: get that computer? Um, you know, time management skills, how 604 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: to study and focus to studying in high school and 605 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: studying in colleges are to totally do different things. UM. 606 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: So that that's just one type of partnership that we have. 607 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: But what I but it takes a community and we 608 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: really live by that. It takes a village mindset. Um. 609 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: We have partnerships with uh CAP ALPHASA, we have partnerships 610 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: with the United Way, We have spart partnerships with the 611 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: Spark Bar academic movement. Folks that really come in with 612 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: us and become brothers, become brothers restoring urban hope or 613 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: sisters restoring urban hope. And we do it as a community. 614 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: But one of our main projects that we have going 615 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: on now is called Connected Scholars and that is for 616 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: our college students Because a lot of times when we 617 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: talk about mentoring a lot of people automatically assume that 618 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about a kid that's about to go to jail, 619 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: high school dropout, or X, Y and Z. We often 620 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: forget about those leaders, those young men and women that 621 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: will be leading our next generation. They need mentorship too, 622 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: and we need to pour into them even more during 623 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: these times. Churches, Folks aren't going back to church anymore. 624 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: Everything is on social media. The world is as racist 625 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: as ever. We've got to train our leaders, you know, 626 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: we gotta be prepared for succession. So right now we're 627 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: in a Connecting Scholars program UM that that are really 628 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: training up our next leaders, UM and and really helping 629 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: them understand what social capital looks like, connecting them with 630 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: different mentors in their career fields or in their leadership fields, 631 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: and really pouring into them on a one on on 632 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: a group mentor or in basis and and teaching them 633 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: how to operate in these spaces that they're going to 634 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: encounter once they graduate high school, in college and be 635 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: comfortable in those spaces and be confident. UM. So we're 636 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: excited about this program, and man, I'm excited to be 637 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: here today. So I thank you for for having us. Well, 638 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: all I gotta say, man, keep seeing it through. And 639 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean by that. Okay, Victim, than 640 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation. Man, you 641 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: come on any time. Man, I love you, periit and 642 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: uh and again. I'm based in Atlanta, Georgia. I know 643 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: you're spartanburg ever come up in this area. Please make 644 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: sure you come by the building so we're gonna chop 645 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: it up. 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