1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: scripted as well. We are going to recap the finale. 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: I guess of the Real Housewives, but told me that's what. 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: They're calling it. The finale. We're talking about that. 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: But first thing first, Dustin and I are going to 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: now discuss the fact that The Real Housewives Ultimate Girls 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: Trip is filming and Baby Atlanta did not disappoint. 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 2: If you don't know, now you know. Nimi Leaks is back, 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: okay on Bravo. Mimi Leaked. I'm not gonna give too 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: much away because I do know a lot. I'm not 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: gonna give too. 18 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: Much away unless doesn't ask me questions. But what I 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: will say is Meimi definitely filmed. She may have filmed 20 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: more than once from what we saw on the pictures 21 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: right Pedro was there, Porsia was there one night. 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: Another night, Nimi was there. 23 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: With with Porsche, Charae, Kim Zosiak, Lisa Wu, Candace Dillar 24 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: Bassett was there with Giselle Bryant, Robert Nixon and Ashley. 25 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: Carlos King did hear that allegedly dusted a conversation happened 26 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: between Kansas and Ashley? 27 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: Wow? Good, good, good, That's exactly what we want. 28 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: There's no way we're gonna have all those women in 29 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 4: the mix and not half the important conversations take place. 30 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: So good. 31 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: I hope that. I hope a bunch of people talk. 32 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 4: I hope Cynthia and Nini had a conversation. I hope 33 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: Mini and Kim had a conversation. I hope Meni and 34 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: Phedro had a conversation. I hope Marlow was just being Marlow. 35 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 4: You know what I'm. 36 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: Saying, Shut it down, Shut it down. 37 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 4: And I think a lot of people that saw those 38 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 4: photos and again again we're referring to the recent filming 39 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: that took place in Atlanta for the Real house The 40 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: Upcoming Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip Roaring twentieth, which I 41 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: love that name, right, Carlos the Roaring twentieth because the 42 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: twentieth anniversary of the Housewives. 43 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: But everybody was there, man, I am. 44 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: I am definitely looking forward to it, and I love 45 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: the fact that Candice had that. Yeah, that's Nini's alter ego. 46 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: Look she was wearing Michael Costello. 47 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: I believe. 48 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: Got hell motherfucking Parish, the one and only man, the 49 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 4: best in the game. 50 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: Look at Cynthia. Yes, yeah, it was fifty. Yes, she was. 51 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: Giselle Bryant was Oh no, Jazelle Bryant was Clark. 52 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 3: Okay. She looked like Karen Clark right there. 53 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 4: I thought she I thought it was a bomb in 54 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 4: Gilead down there in Atlanta. 55 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You just okay. Jesus is 56 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: a love song. 57 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: She looked like Karen Clark and shout out to the 58 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: Clark the legendary Clark sisters. 59 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, she looked like Karen Clark right there, Gazelle. 60 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: I don't think it's doing Karen Clark. She here, but 61 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: dustin the neck up. 62 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. She looked like. 63 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: I think she's given a rock. 64 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: Okay, he rob is Gazelle giving Diana Ross or Karen 65 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: Clark's shere. 66 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: Casey, Yes, sirs, the legendary Karen Clark. Shit, that's what 67 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: she looked like for the next time. But yeah, it 68 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: looks good though. I love Candace's costume misunderstood as a 69 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: pageant girl. 70 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: That's brilliant. That's brilliant, and she looks great. 71 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: And what do you think that conversation between Candice and 72 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: Porsche was like post traders. 73 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Stacey Russ was there looking like Stacey Ross. 74 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: It was beautiful. 75 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 4: I love that red hair on her. She looks gorgeous. 76 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: And you know what else, Stacey looks comfortable. Stacey looks 77 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: like know it's her spot. You know what I'm saying, 78 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: She's secure. Love that mm hmm. 79 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: And then we have the reunion of Kim and Nini. 80 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 81 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: Kim looking like a caricature, looking like them pictures they 82 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 4: draw at the amusement park, like Lisa Renna. They both 83 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 4: look like them pictures they draw when you at the 84 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: amusement park sitting in that stool, and they make you 85 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: look exaggerated. 86 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: Ninnie looks incredible though. 87 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 5: Thank you. 88 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: M m hm Dustin. We also. 89 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: We don't talk about it ship. 90 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: But Marlow Hampton and Mimi leeks. 91 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: Marlow looks great, Marlow was great. 92 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: Marlow was Corilla Deville the version of the movie I 93 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: Love It. 94 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: Kay. 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Also president was we had Charade Whitfield so but Dustin. 96 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: I okay, I'm gonna tell y'all a little something, but 97 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: not too much because I. 98 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: Don't want to. 99 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: You got to give him something, thank you. Yeah. 100 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: I heard allegedly Candace and Ashley had a conversation. 101 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. 102 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: I heard allegedly a conversation was had between the Potomac 103 00:05:54,200 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: Girls Giselle, Candace, Robin Ashley. 104 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I heard Meani got emotional. 105 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Come on and do it, do it and say. 106 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: It allow her. 107 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: I'll I'll say this, based on what I've been hearing, 108 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: Atlanta did not disappoint. 109 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: Atlanta. Atlanta did not. 110 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: Disappoint who who did Porscha cut somebody? No? 111 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: No meaning? Okay, let me let me let me rephrase that. 112 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: Okay. 113 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: The the shoot, the Atlanta shoot. From what I have 114 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: been hearing. 115 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: Alanta was the place to be. You know, they're they're 116 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: going to Miami. They're in Miami right now. They were 117 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: in oc Beverly Hills, Cow did a white party. 118 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: I heard all. 119 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: Of that baby Atlanta was Atlanta shut it down. 120 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 3: I can't wait. 121 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: Man, that's going to be so much much fun to watch, 122 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 4: to see everybody back in the mix, and you know, 123 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 4: it's just gonna be good to see. So I'm actually 124 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: really excited about that. And they need to go and 125 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: quit playing and going and put Ninnie in at IRV 126 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: with the rest of them and stop playing, going to 127 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: add her to the main cast and just let that happen, 128 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 4: because obviously people are very excited to see her back, 129 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: and it just would make sense. 130 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: We don't want just a little bit, we want a 131 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: little more. 132 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, and call Ryan Murphy, Ninie while you hot, 133 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: you hot right now, baby, get on that phone. Call 134 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: Ryan Murphy and get on All's Fair. We need Ninie 135 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: on All Fair. In two and three, Nini was in 136 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: cub Say what you want about Nini and her relationship 137 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: to reality television, but there's a totally different conversation that 138 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: takes place with Nini and scripted TV. Nini was incredible 139 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 4: on Glee. She was fucking incredible on the New Normal. 140 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: Incredible on the New Normal. So she needs to get 141 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: re integrated into that Ryan Murphy universe. And I would 142 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: love to see her playing and with NISI nashing them 143 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: over on All's fair. I would love that, So welcome back, Nini. 144 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, I mean obviously I could not agree 145 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: more with you, Dustin than. 146 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: I hope that this is. 147 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: The beginning of something very special for Nini, because she 148 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: deserves it. So we're looking forward to that. I'm looking 149 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: forward to Ultimate Girl's Trip. I have some really great 150 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: things about it. Porsche unfollowed Vicky Gomelson. Oh good, not good, good, Porsch. 151 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: I didn't like Vicky's attitude when you had that conversation 152 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 4: with her about Wendy's legal issues and when she was 153 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 4: talking about the insurance and stuff. I didn't like her 154 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: tone when she was speaking about Wendy and the accusations 155 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 4: and the allegations that have been made. 156 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: I didn't like that. 157 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: And that ain't the first time I've seen a sour, curdled, 158 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: milk ass attitude from Vicky. So if Porscha Williams was 159 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 4: the one to go ahead and nip that in the butt, 160 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 4: and the unfollow represents that I can't wait to watch 161 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 4: the show even more, I can't wait, And that's actually 162 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 4: good practice to get VICKI back into shape because she's 163 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: about to be full time over there on OC next season. 164 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: She's back, Yeah, she's got. She's back, So somebody had 165 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: to shake her up and let her know, like, hey, 166 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 4: you might like, what was this, y'all? 167 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: I must have forgot. 168 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 4: She must have forgot, you know what I'm saying, like, 169 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: let me remind you so we'll see. I hope that 170 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: means she tore into Vicki's ass, so that'll be really 171 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: good television. 172 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: No, I listen, Apparently i'm hearing. This is what I'm hearing. 173 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm hearing Portion and Gazelle. 174 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: Are on fire. 175 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 2: Good good, That's that's That's what I'm hearing. But what 176 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm also going to read you is what Porsche posted. 177 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: She said, before you. 178 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: F with me, Remember, you call people to handle things. 179 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: People call me to handle things. We are not the same. 180 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: Don't make me call Porschcha. 181 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, Porsche posted that, Carlos, because I didn't 182 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: see none of that. 183 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: Said you call people to handle things. People called me 184 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: to handle things. We are not the same. Don't make 185 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: me call Porscha. 186 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: Yes, good job, Porsche, good job, Porscha said, ll ain't 187 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 4: kicking me out of this castle. 188 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: It's the Housewives, Okay, said I'm Finn, show you something tonight. 189 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 4: Good good Porsche, good job, always doing the ward's work. 190 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: Porscha been fighting for the people ever since the reckoning. 191 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: When she was outside, you know what I'm saying, she told, 192 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 4: were you talking from the curb? 193 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 3: What have you done? Like she'd been in the street. 194 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 4: I see she's still out in the street, still on, 195 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 4: still fighting for the people. 196 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: Good job, Porsche. 197 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: Porsche is doing great television, as we all know. Speaking 198 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: of Porsche, I want to get your thoughts on this. 199 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: Kenya Moore, who recently appeared on her YouTube channel, she 200 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: talked about the Ultimate Girls tripin she did reveal that 201 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: she was not invited. Oh man, that's number one, number two. 202 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: She did say that, look, she's happy that Porsche was 203 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: able to be a part of it, but she's and 204 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: I want to make sure I say that. She said 205 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: that she said, this is not shade to Porsche. So 206 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: she said, please don't make this up on me shaking Porsche. 207 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm not shaking Porsche. However, she said, I did think 208 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: that at least and Og should have been a part 209 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: of it, which is MEMI or cherree. So I want 210 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on that. But before I get 211 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that, Dustin, let's break in your twin sister, 212 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: the beautiful aries queen Ya Jordan. 213 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 3: Yes, hello, gentlemen, my girl. 214 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 6: Thank you. 215 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 5: One of my tracks came out to have my LinkedIn 216 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 5: and it's on my backroom counter, so I had to 217 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 5: try to move the part. 218 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 6: Like so this lists a little bit right here. Don't 219 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 6: judge me. I'm trying to you know, I'm gonna do it. 220 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 6: I'm gonna a snowstom out here. So what's up are you? Oh? 221 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, you know, we got like this much snow, 222 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 5: but Dallas refuses to buy anything, like any salt for 223 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 5: the roads or plows, Like they don't want to like 224 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 5: do anything to they don't want to spend any money. 225 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 5: So this would be a regular day in Michigan Rhode Island, 226 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 5: Like it's really not that big of a deal. But 227 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 5: they're like, oh my god, one inch of snow shut 228 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 5: down the schools for the week, and it's crazy. It's 229 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 5: really we would have track meets in this weather. 230 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 6: Seriously, man, let me fix Claudia. 231 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: Welcome to the conversation. 232 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: We are wrapping things up as relates to the Real 233 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip. 234 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: That is filming. 235 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: We weren't getting into the fact that Kenya Moore over 236 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: the week and did a video, and she did talk 237 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: about how she. 238 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: Was not invited. 239 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: She also mentioned that she listened as happy for Porsche 240 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: and it was no shade to Porsche. These are her words. 241 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: She said, Look, but the Ultimate Girl's Trip, I felt 242 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: like an og of a lanternship in invited And she 243 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: said it should have. 244 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: Been Nini or Charret Claudia. What are your thoughts on that. 245 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 6: I think Porscha fits in for that. 246 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 5: She's been around long enough to do that, But I 247 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 5: do yeah, it would have been I think the fans 248 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 5: would have loved it to get a bigger appearance by Nini. 249 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 5: But I think they're there at this point after all 250 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 5: these years of her being away. I'm sure they're grateful 251 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 5: for any you know, sightings of her in this and 252 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 5: they're happy and I definitely think this is definitely a 253 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 5: gateway for her to get back on. 254 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 6: But yeah, that makes sense. 255 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 5: I could see, I could see her feeling that way. 256 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: But I also think, Porcha, it's not like they're putting 257 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 5: like a like a like like a one season person 258 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 5: like me on that they put someone that Sylvia has 259 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 5: a very long history with the show, so it's not 260 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 5: disrespectful picking Porsche it doesn't like. And they oh, Portia 261 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 5: gets on all those shows like they used her multiple 262 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 5: times over and over and over again. So I mean, 263 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 5: I think as little they use her a lot for 264 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 5: those things. 265 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 6: That's good for her. 266 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 5: I could see what Kenny saying too, but no, I 267 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 5: think Porch's fine for that. She's a fun person. 268 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 6: Nine for our road trip. 269 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: That's of your thoughts. 270 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: I have a few thoughts. 271 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: So while it does make sense per the when you 272 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: look at the who else was casted for the show 273 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: as far as the main cast, they were all first 274 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 4: season housewives from their respective cities, And so when you 275 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: apply that sort of logic, what Keny saying does make sense. 276 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 4: We've also heard, you know, it's one of those things 277 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: that you hear all the time, like they don't got 278 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: no storyliner, this, this, this is this, they should have 279 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: had a og you know. 280 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: It's one of those things that just kind of reverberates. 281 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: Around the space or whatever, and you say, I'm the player. 282 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: But anyway, oh so see, if the proof being the putting, 283 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 4: you just gotta you just got to have a spoon, okay. 284 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: Anyway, any who, Yeah, so I'm glad to see them 285 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: all there. 286 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: But sometimes, no matter what your intentions are, some things 287 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: that you say, you just have to say that like 288 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 4: your people, and you know you shouldn't bring it to 289 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: the internet because y Kenya saying that people are going 290 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 4: to end up framing that as her hating on Porsche 291 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: in some sort of way. That's why she felt the 292 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 4: need to issue that disclaimer. And I don't think she 293 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: was hating. I just think she had an opinion about 294 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: the casting. But of course the people are going to 295 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 4: people and turn that into something else. So sometimes you 296 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: just got to be have a little foresight and forethought 297 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 4: when it comes to situations like that and having an 298 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 4: opinion on shit, you know what I'm saying. 299 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 5: Just too she asked that in a life they asked 300 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 5: she was just answer questions. 301 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: Maybe so, but she adn't have to read that one, 302 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: you feel me, because what it did was set her 303 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: up to be positioned as something that she's not. 304 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,359 Speaker 3: She was not hating on Porsche. 305 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: In fact, she literally says she was happy for her, 306 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But by choosing to answer 307 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: to them question. Now, we didn't open the door to 308 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 4: all this stupid shit that's in the way of the 309 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 4: point she was trying to make in the first place. 310 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 4: I'll be glad when Kenya and then resolved whatever they 311 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: got going on, because the Traders need off off. 312 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: She also brought it up dust And because I wanted 313 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: to add this to your senses, you can finish it too. 314 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, she did say as well dust In and 315 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: Claudia that she don't think she was asked back because 316 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: of illegal issues surrounding break eighties losses. 317 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, I stee. 318 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 4: We need her, We need Kenya on that. She would 319 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: have been great to be in the mix with those 320 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: veteran legendary housewives. 321 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 322 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: We need her on the Traders, we need her back 323 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: on Real Housewives of Atlanta. So I'll be glad when 324 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 4: whatever that process is that is going on is finished 325 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: because we need her back. 326 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 5: Can you be fine? On the road trip? And she's 327 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: very very smart for Traded like, she's very very intelligent. 328 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: So she killed it on It's fun of because she 329 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: was on the first iteration and of Ultimate Girl's Trip. 330 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: It was her Teresa Kyle Cynthia Bailey. That's when her 331 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: and Cynthia unfortunately had a real falling out that last 332 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: or I want to stay two years. 333 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: She is great on that show. Listen. 334 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: I will always say this, if we can talk about 335 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: Potomac after this, what I will say is it is 336 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: still very sad, like Dustin is saying, like you're saying, Claudia, 337 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: that look King Almore, who is so legendary in in 338 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: the reality space, obviously Atlanta, you know, put her on 339 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: the map as a reality star to see where things 340 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: are is sad. I'm just gonna say it. Plain is 341 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: very sad to see it. I hope things can get 342 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: wrapped up, but it is very unfortunate that she couldn't 343 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: be there to celebrate a mons her sisters. You know 344 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying in reality. 345 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 5: I'm so distracted. I know I got in here, Lake Carls. 346 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 5: Where you going after this? 347 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 6: You got your titties out, you get. 348 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 5: Got three buttons open, you got the gold, you are 349 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 5: definitely what you got some. 350 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 6: You got a piece over. 351 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 5: There right now. 352 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 6: What you got going on? 353 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 5: You're definitely doing something after this show, or you came 354 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 5: from something, you was on something and you're. 355 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 6: About to do. I'm like, that's a lie. 356 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 2: You know. 357 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 5: I can tell all the time my reading. I can 358 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 5: see a lot of water. I'm damn there, psychic. Okay 359 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 5: when it comes to you, I'm so connected to you. 360 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 5: So yeah, where are you going after this? 361 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: We're connected? Actually, I want to look good for you 362 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: with us. 363 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 4: You answer her a question, bro, She said, where are 364 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 4: you going after this? 365 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 3: That's what. 366 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: I really am. 367 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 5: No eye contact you, they see I was looking away. 368 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 4: Do you have plans after Do you have plans after 369 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: this show tonight? 370 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: I don't have plans to leave my house now, but. 371 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 6: That don't work with us, Carlos. 372 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 4: Think you talking to anyway. We're just asking you to 373 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 4: give you the room. You know what I'm saying. 374 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: But we are you go. 375 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 6: Let me see your watch. 376 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 5: You've got the diamond ring on the nice walk, the 377 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 5: shirt that's Degner. I opened the three buttons down the 378 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 5: nice I never seen that chain gleaming. You look very groomed, 379 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 5: like someone's coming over tonight or you're going out. You 380 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 5: got a hot day tonight for sure. 381 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 4: When you definitely had them things under your eyes before 382 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 4: we started. 383 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: Some of them. Yeah, you look rejuvenated. 384 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 5: You look at his lips and moisturized. No, nothing in 385 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 5: his teeth. He's ready to go, he flops, ready to go. 386 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 5: I'm happy for you, friend. 387 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 6: I love seeing people in love, Michael. It's a beautiful thing. 388 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: Ain't a beautiful. 389 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 4: It's so beautiful at least like strong, like. 390 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 6: Like like a LUs. It's all fun and beautiful. I 391 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 6: love it. 392 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and Carlos King. Let's 393 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: get back into the show anyway. So let's get into Look, 394 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: Claudia Blue was off, but she had Wi Fi issues. 395 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: I don't know where. 396 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: We felt so bad because she was trying. 397 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 6: We missed you, Blue, try to get on and it 398 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 6: went it went out? What city she and the cold in? 399 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 7: L A? 400 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: Okay, No, the Wi Fi was blurry chot, but Blue 401 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: start talking about potobic so I would. 402 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 5: Love it's that rescue Blue Wi Fi pager dial up, 403 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 5: leave her alone, you know, l A last. 404 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: Yes, Blue, let me know if Angel picked you up 405 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: and the pen didn't get into the right. 406 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 6: Oh my god. 407 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 408 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so rain Drops, let's get into the 409 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: season finale, right, I'll say part one because next week 410 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: we'll get into that too. But this episode, I literally 411 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: Claudia and dust was watching last night and I was like, 412 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: this is going to be a very interesting conversation with 413 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: all of us because I feel like we all have 414 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: very strong feelings watching it, and uh, listen, I want 415 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: to go on Rectords say, I believe we're gonna we're 416 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: all gonna have very strong opinions about this episode because 417 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: this was This was. 418 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: Not her Wildfo's Mae Curial. 419 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: This was a hard episode to watch, and we're just 420 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: going to get into all of the reasons why. So 421 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: first thing first, rain Drops Angel Massy took the girls 422 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: of Colorado. It hasn't been a successful trip by any means, right, 423 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: It's just it just hasn't been. The house wasn't in order, 424 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: they had no running water. She got cussed out botches 425 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: Delle on the primed plane and at this point, Gizelle 426 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: has decided to take the girls to the Four Seasons 427 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: and that's where they were staying. 428 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: Dustin, give me your thoughts first. 429 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: On how do you feel about Thelle hijacking the trip, 430 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: really having no problems telling her to her face, I'm 431 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: taking over your trip and having the girls go to 432 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: the Four Seasons and they're all happy. My heart bled 433 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: for Angel in that moment, but dustn't What are your thoughts? 434 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I'm torn because I think it 435 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: was rude the way that Giselle kind of did that. 436 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, It's not even though I 437 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: think it was rude, the way she just interrupted angels 438 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 4: Angel's position as the leader and organizer of the trip, right, 439 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 4: somebody also had to do it because things had just 440 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 4: gotten too damn bad. The house. The house was fucked up. 441 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 4: Everything they did was boring. Monique was about to throw 442 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 4: up from smelling that leather and chemo Sabi Keana was 443 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 4: on one from the altitude, and there's just a very 444 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: very clear disconnect between Angel and the group we saw 445 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 4: in the car when they was riding and Angel just 446 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 4: randomly was like, here's something you don't know about me. 447 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: I don't like fish and then she like look Nobody 448 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: responded and she kind of looked up. It actually made 449 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: me sad, right, yes, it made me think about, like, 450 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 4: I don't know, just teenagers and just things from like 451 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: being younger, when when shit like that that would happen 452 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 4: and it would be more impactful for people, you know 453 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like the social shit, and I watching 454 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 4: her try to navigate that group. It's just way too 455 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 4: late for some of the shit that she's doing. And 456 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: I actually felt sorry for her when she said she 457 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: didn't like no damn fish. 458 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: Now. 459 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: It was funny when that she had went to sleep 460 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 4: in the back of that car because she was in 461 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 4: stage three leave okay at that point on that on 462 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 4: she was sleeping in heavenly peace in the backseat of 463 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: that suv, And that was funny. But angels just don't 464 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: connect with this group. And that's just what it boils 465 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 4: down to. And the trip was fucking poorly planned. Ain't 466 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 4: no way in hell they gotta be at the airport 467 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: at two o'clock or whatever on a Sunday and they're going. 468 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: Fucking fly fishing before. 469 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 4: First of all, who want to be musty and wet 470 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 4: from them stinking ass rubber overalls and shit fish hooks, worms, meal, 471 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 4: all that shit. Don't nobody want to have none of 472 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 4: that juice on them. And you can't even really wash 473 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 4: your ass right to get ready to go back to 474 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 4: the airport. That's too much before you go into the airport. 475 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 4: The only thing they should have done was at best 476 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 4: went to eat, went to brunch or something somewhere close, 477 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 4: maybe a little light shopping, and you head to the airport. 478 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 4: It was just poorly designed and planned in general, and 479 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 4: I think that that contributed to the failure of the 480 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: trip overall. 481 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: But they still was mean to her. 482 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: Audio your thoughts and Claudia. As you give your thoughts, 483 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: can you also. 484 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: Tell the rain drops you're experience hosting a cast trip 485 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: when you took the Girls of the Philippines Season seven 486 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: of Atlanta Housewives. 487 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, you know everything's on the line when you 488 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 5: are in charge of a cast trip, and at this point, 489 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 5: I'm starting to be on. 490 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 6: I feel Gazelle. 491 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: Honestly, you're a woman and you're in accommodations without water. 492 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 6: Okay, that's not something that I don't think. 493 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 5: I don't think Angel did that to her on purpose, 494 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 5: But you're already irritated. Right, Let that be the worst 495 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 5: thing that happened on the trip. Then to have constantly 496 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 5: just dropped the ball so many times. First of all, 497 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 5: these are women, not men. Women that are probably going 498 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 5: through menopause, could have their periods, you know what I'm saying, Like, 499 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 5: you're already gonna be feeling a way like that is. 500 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 5: Let me tell you a woman that can doesn't have 501 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 5: access to water. It's different than for a man. It 502 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 5: is much different than for a man. There's a lot 503 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 5: of things going on. Okay, that's number one, and I'm sorry. 504 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 5: After that, all bets are off. I'm probably gonna be grouchy. 505 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 5: I'm probably gonna be a bitch. I'm probably gonna be 506 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 5: like at a place where you probably gonna get through 507 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 5: me to me after that, like everything you say, I 508 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 5: don't want to hear shit because my ass is itchy 509 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 5: and I can't shit in the toilet. 510 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 6: I can't flush. Why can ship I can't flush? That 511 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 6: is disgusting. 512 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 5: So you think these bougie rich women are gonna have 513 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 5: be be pleasant after that? 514 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 6: No, they're not. Were they mean? Yes? But I understand it. 515 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 5: And then it was like the favorites were in the 516 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 5: house and the castaways over there? What did you think 517 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 5: that we're gonna behave? Yes, she was right of getting 518 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 5: a link back, but I just think the way she 519 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 5: went about it was bad. Now, if you could if 520 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 5: last week we were like more empathetic to Angel, like, well, 521 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 5: that's probably not her fall and production has something to 522 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 5: do with that. Yes, let's go ahead and give that 523 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 5: to production. 524 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: Okay. 525 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 5: I think she did not do herself. She did herself 526 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 5: a huge service by having being in this industry and 527 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 5: thinking that this show is going to promote our business. 528 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 5: If that's the case, that should have been the best 529 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 5: cast trip we ever see in a life. And if 530 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 5: she saw things going left, take production to the side. Listen, listen, 531 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 5: this is my business, of my livelihood on the line. 532 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 6: If you make me look bad. 533 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 5: Like all these things are happening, I'm not going to 534 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 5: have a business. You're ruining my livelihood because do you 535 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 5: want to book a trip now with her? No you don't, 536 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 5: No one will because some of the things that were 537 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 5: out of her that were in her control planning a 538 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 5: fly fishing trip, like Justin said on there, Oh my god, 539 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 5: I said, Justin. 540 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 6: Got on me. 541 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 5: It got on me like the water did not get 542 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 5: on me in Colorado. 543 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 6: I am so I can't believe. 544 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 5: No, Listen, I'm been trying to get this iron the 545 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 5: Future for three weeks and I have no brain cells anymore. 546 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 5: Like I'm I'm totally dumb right now. Seriously, I've been 547 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 5: called but anyways, you know what I'm saying, Like Yo, 548 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 5: that's like you you know, you're a comedian and we've 549 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 5: been like telling us how great you are and that 550 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 5: your trip is we're going to do an improv show 551 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 5: and then you suck. 552 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 6: Wait, that's the one thing you've been talking about all season? 553 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 6: What are you talk What do you mean that? 554 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 5: Like? Her planning was bad and you didn't know your way? 555 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 5: How does the cast you don't know your way, You're 556 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 5: two hours away from them and they have to go 557 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 5: catch a flight. It was terrible and I but I 558 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 5: will say this, I did see reasons for. 559 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 6: Angel come back next season. 560 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 5: I know we think she don't fit, but I liked 561 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 5: how she started to push back. I mean, it was 562 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 5: the last episode, but she finally got a little spark 563 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 5: about her. 564 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 6: But I like that. I'll take that. 565 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 5: Listen and personally, I'll take that. When she was pushing 566 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 5: back to Gisel over the e ro vibes was just 567 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 5: killing me. 568 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 6: At least. She was like, more like, you know, Tigger. 569 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 7: In this one, Colia, you are really throwing. 570 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 6: And so what I love how. 571 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: You're growing it said she said that, Tigger, I love that. 572 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 5: I thought that now I want to come back now 573 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 5: because now this seems like there's definitely beef now. 574 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 6: This now was like a. 575 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 4: Reason I don't want to see no more beef with Angel. 576 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 4: I don't want to see no more Angel beef. I 577 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: want to see Angel thriving in her beautiful home in 578 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: Colorado with better friends and happier in a happier place. 579 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 4: I don't want to see her duking it out with 580 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 4: these women that she if we're being honest, it's no 581 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 4: match for when it comes to verbal sparring, when it 582 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 4: comes to being edgy with your words. She's just not 583 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 4: She's not that way like the rest of these women. 584 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: And that's where the misalignment becomes so glaringly obvious. I 585 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 4: don't want to see that she's going to end up 586 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 4: being like a punching bag for another season. 587 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: And if there are peaks and. 588 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 4: Glimmers of hope as far as her defending herself and 589 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 4: standing up for herself, they'll be just that. If you 590 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: can't expect a person to change. These are fundamental things 591 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: about her makeup right, and who she is as a woman, 592 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 4: and how she shows up in situations that are high 593 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: stress situations like this reality show, and it just does 594 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 4: not seem to go with the program or make the 595 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 4: story progress in a way that's entertaining. I think there 596 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 4: is entertainment value there, it's just not in this format. 597 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: That's what I think. 598 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: Just me, yes, and I agree with you. 599 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: Listen. 600 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: It's interesting because Angel, I don't know if y'all know this, 601 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: then I'm speaking to YouTube Claudia and Dustin. She has 602 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: a background in production. Okay, Angel used to work at 603 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: BET back in the DC office days. 604 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 5: Whichell, you know what I'm saying like that? 605 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 6: You know it was a comic view. 606 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 5: Jane Like, there's a difference here, you know what I'm saying, Like. 607 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: On Earth, Like, Okay, where did you live? 608 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 6: Right? I mean, come on, let's world. 609 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: I'm joking. 610 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 4: We need a Sitters World movie, and we need ta 611 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 4: Kemp young T to play her mom. 612 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: She previously worked as a journalist. 613 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 5: Now I'm so sick of y'all. 614 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 6: I'm so sick of this. 615 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, she was a journalist and a producer for B 616 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: E T. 617 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: What's and and and she was a she's a former 618 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: BT host. 619 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: That's what's up. I see potential. 620 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 4: I just I just don't think this is the forum 621 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: that shows her strengths off in the best way. I 622 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 4: think that this shows her shortcomings, you know what I'm saying, 623 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 4: because we keep seeing her in a position of failure, 624 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 4: and I don't think that's fair to her. Now, when 625 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 4: you're a rich black woman with a beautiful family and 626 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 4: a lot of people that love you. 627 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 628 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 4: I don't think throwing her into this mix that is 629 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: clearly not suited for her, it's fair and I definitely 630 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 4: don't think it's entertaining. 631 00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 5: So, yeah, associating what they said, she worked in the mailroom. 632 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all. 633 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: Stop, y'all are so I knew that the episode will 634 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: be in same I'll say this, I. 635 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: Agree with the both of you. 636 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: All I thought was, Wow, how unfortunate that your business 637 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: isn't getting. 638 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: The shine that it deserves. 639 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: Right, I'm not here to blame one of the other 640 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: because I wasn't there. What I will say is this, 641 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: I want to focus on the fact that even in 642 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: the moment, Angel unfortunately in my opinion, did not do 643 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: herself any justice by tackling the issues hit on. 644 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: She was very laxa day'sical when it came to the 645 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: fires that was happening about her. Quaudia in Dustine. 646 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: That to me, I would have been like, fuck this 647 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: TV shit my business and of the line, and as 648 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: I was watching the show, and I'm gonna junk a 649 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: hit a little bit, but I'm gonna bring it back 650 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: for us. 651 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: Even the only moment. 652 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: Of regret that I saw from her this whole trip 653 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: was when the girl said to her, we're not going 654 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: fly fishing. 655 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: We're gonna go to the airport. 656 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: The trip ends here, and she had to call those 657 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: two employees of hers who worked their butt saw. 658 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: That made me really sad. You know, I'm a production boy, like, yeah, yeah, 659 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: I felt bad for her team. 660 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: The disappointment in that woman's voice, like they're not coming again. 661 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: We'll get to that later, but I still have that 662 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: to say. That was the only time I saw her, 663 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: like have a real moment of real reaction because the 664 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: other stuff the four seasons, I just thought she just 665 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: was like whatever, And look the fact that she did lie, 666 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: and you and I both knew Claudia and Dunton she 667 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 1: was never gonna We all knew she was not spending 668 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: the night After four seasons. I just wish she would 669 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: have only said, now, I gotta know why I spent 670 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: the night here. 671 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: The fact that she said yes, and I don't care. 672 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: If it was after one o'clock in the morning, I 673 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: would have said, I have to do whatever it takes 674 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: to win. These girls faked back, and tomorrow is my 675 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: last night or day. 676 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 2: Rather to impress them, I would have. 677 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: Told Bobby I need give me this, or I would 678 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: have done what Gizelle said, which is I would. 679 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: Have woke up early and said I'm here. 680 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 6: I would have said, you know what. 681 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 5: At this point, I don't think she needs to kiss 682 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 5: these girls asses anymore. 683 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 6: I really don't. I don't think she needs. 684 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 5: I don't think and I'm not saying you were saying that, 685 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 5: but I'm like, at this point, screw impressing them. She 686 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 5: would have every reason in the world to say scow, 687 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 5: y'all because y'all have that mean to me? 688 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 3: Right? 689 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 5: Your business, though, sis, your business I care about like 690 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 5: I hate to see like you. 691 00:34:59,400 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 2: Go out with. 692 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 5: Listen, we've been critical of Angel Let's we have. I've 693 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 5: actually warmed up to the last few episodes. I kind 694 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 5: of fell back, you know. The bullyings make me like 695 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 5: her more like I feel bad for her, you know. 696 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 3: I feel like we've been honest. We have, we have 697 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 3: I don't think we can mean you. 698 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 5: You know when you speak, they not the meter. 699 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: So but so. 700 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 5: Anyways, I uh, I would wish it was more about 701 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 5: you know what. Okay, I'm not gonna get y'all back, 702 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 5: but let me think big picture because this will be 703 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 5: broadcasting two millions of people. Me make sure at least 704 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 5: at this if this don't work out, these happens that 705 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 5: I don't really like and they don't like me, at 706 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 5: least I can benefit from a bump in booking, showing 707 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 5: that I can pull it together understressful situations. 708 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 4: All of that goes back to that poor planning though, right, 709 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 4: because if you have if you're bringing these ladies onto 710 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 4: your turf. 711 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 3: Colorado is her turf. 712 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 4: That's why Giselle flippantly said, you're supposed to be Miss Colorado. 713 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 4: Always had me rolling, but because that was so mean, 714 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 4: But Colorado is essentially Angel is essentially Angels turf. The 715 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 4: whole trip planning should have been focused and seen through 716 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 4: the lens of Wonderland Outfitters or Wonderland whatever her company 717 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 4: is called. The entire trip should have been planned through 718 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 4: the lens of her company, creating this really lux experience 719 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 4: that she know didn't go too far. They do not 720 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 4: want to go fly fishing on the morning before they 721 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 4: have a flight. That just wasn't a smart choice. 722 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: You should have. 723 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 4: Made different decisions as far as the itinerary, all that 724 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 4: other shit, that's what needed to happen. 725 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: So it just was poor planning. 726 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 4: And then the shit that they did do was while 727 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 4: you got them going to a fucking lake you ain't 728 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 4: never been to before that you don't even know how 729 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 4: to get to. And you have access to lakes that 730 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 4: you have a relationship with where you normally take people 731 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 4: fly fishing, to the Naked Eye, to the Potomac Eye. 732 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 4: All that shit in the mountains and trees and shit 733 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 4: in Colorado, all them lakes look the fucking same. 734 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 3: So it wouldn't matter which one you went to. 735 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 4: You could have went to the one that you knew 736 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 4: it was the lay of the land on if you 737 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 4: felt they had to do that. 738 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 3: They had eaten. 739 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 4: Outside enough every time Angel creates a situation for them 740 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 4: the outside at a fucking picnic table, you know what 741 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Enough creating experience that they'll enjoy that that 742 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 4: it's safe and less detailed when it when it comes 743 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 4: to the planning. You know what I'm saying, like, just 744 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 4: take them to a restaurant. That's what they want to do. 745 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 2: I say, you see what age want, use the map 746 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 2: quest go ahead. 747 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 5: You see when they were her team was cooking in 748 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 5: the woods, so production cameras could get to where a 749 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 5: team is. But Angel camp, which is crazy, and. 750 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 2: I was gonna say that, thank you. 751 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: So I was gonna say this, speaking as production, I 752 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: will say this. 753 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 2: I will say this. I will say this. Angel's trip 754 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 2: is Colorado. It's it's that's perfect. 755 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 7: It was clown. 756 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 6: They said, you got my Wi Fi issues? 757 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 7: You don't understand. I cussed out everybody who embarrass me 758 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 7: and all the Yeah, they got cuts back because I 759 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 7: paid my bills. 760 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 2: Well, friend, so Blue, I want to get your thoughts. 761 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: We were starting up. 762 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: We're talking about the start of Potomac where Gazelle took 763 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: the girls of the four seasons. At this point, Gizelle 764 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: took over the trip. Angel decided to not spend the night, 765 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: although she lied and said she would. And we're not 766 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: the point now where we're saying, look Blue. At the 767 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: end of the day, e FIE's girls meeting, meaning that's 768 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: what Angel should have had in her mind, I have 769 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: to salvage the reputation of my business. So talk to 770 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: us about your thoughts in terms of where things landed 771 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: up until the point. 772 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 2: Where they are now. 773 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: On their way to fly fishing and Angel can't fire 774 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: her way there. 775 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 7: Let me tell you something in the sim in three 776 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 7: d Okay, I'm an avatar now, I think Stacy these 777 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 7: Stacy summed it up best on Watch What Happens Live 778 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 7: when she said Angel fumbled an epic bag because had 779 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 7: Angel had a spectacular experience and been well vetted, we 780 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 7: would have all ate curl like damn, you know what. 781 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 7: I don't even like her like that, but that looks 782 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 7: like a vibe. 783 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 784 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 7: The fact that you're trying out a new spot that 785 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 7: you've never been to when mistakes are this high, that's 786 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 7: like trying out a new hairdresser on your wedding day. 787 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 6: Crazy crazy. You would never do that. You would do 788 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 6: a run through first, right, you would do a run through. 789 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 7: So I'm already I'm already shady on her discernment. Angel, 790 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 7: Your discernment. 791 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: Is off, baby. 792 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 7: This is not about you getting lost in the woods 793 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 7: with the musty trees, and it's not about that. Although 794 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 7: you do deserve to, you know, maybe talk to your employees, 795 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,479 Speaker 7: because them poor people were fighting for them lives, making 796 00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 7: them ribs in the woods. 797 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 5: Robed in the ash. So maybe they didn't make it there. 798 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 3: They was probably happy they have to deal with them 799 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 3: fucking people. 800 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 4: They they could. They probably sat down and probably was like, 801 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 4: what ship you want? 802 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 3: You want? How you want, George? Could they sit down 803 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,439 Speaker 3: and ate the rest of them steaks and the ship? 804 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 3: They ate the ship? 805 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 5: They wiped a little charcoal off the steaks because they 806 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 5: dropped it in the choco. 807 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he dropped in charcoal for his life. 808 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 7: She was like she wanted to put her hair up. 809 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: Everything. 810 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 7: I could smell the episode. It was funky, Angel, your 811 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 7: whole operation is funky. I came back just to say 812 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 7: that I could smell it. Anyways. I hate to say, Angel, 813 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 7: but you had me citing with Giaseelle. I don't think 814 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 7: I've ever really have to do that in my life. 815 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 7: For one, Gazelle saved today, Save today, and also to 816 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 7: the Four Seasons. Shout out to them, because I would 817 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 7: have rather been at the Four Seasons, which is selling 818 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 7: them than whatever. And Tia, Tia, Tia, you did all that, 819 00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 7: and she still didn't. 820 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 3: Buy a house. You got a do to to have. 821 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 4: Y'all noticed that she always be talking about I've got 822 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 4: to go to the new and she's a bit bubble like. 823 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 3: She was talking about. 824 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 4: You need a probiotic and I don't know what's going on, man, 825 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 4: but Tiya, she always got a ship and she's always 826 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 4: talking about it. 827 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 3: That's some brittish. 828 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 6: Ship, I think because the food. 829 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 3: Have you been? 830 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 6: Y'all been to London? 831 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 5: Sold It's like you can't find a season of Savior 832 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 5: life unless. 833 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 6: You get Jamaican or Indian food over there. I think 834 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 6: been in America. 835 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 5: She's not all the way acclimated to seasons, and that's 836 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 5: why she got a ship. 837 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 3: Every time running right, ain't a river runs through it. 838 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 7: Claudia, I know that car smelled. I know that car smelled. 839 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 7: I know they were farting. I know they were stressed, 840 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 7: Angel stressed. The whole thing was just so croaked wig 841 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 7: to me, I took a shower after watching that episode. 842 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 2: I just feel dirty. 843 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, why fishing? 844 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 5: Fly? 845 00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 6: Fishing with them? 846 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: I okay? 847 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 6: And you don't like fish, you don't. 848 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 4: Like fishs It just didn't make sense, and she deserves 849 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 4: so much better. I at least I like to think, right, 850 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 4: I would think that this company that's so important to 851 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 4: her being highlighted on a platform as big as The 852 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 4: Real Housewives of Potomac. 853 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 3: Would be important. Right. 854 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 4: So to me, everything they should have had on Wonderland jackets. 855 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 4: Everything should have been laid the funk out and branded like. 856 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,720 Speaker 4: It should have been a Wonderland focused experience, the best 857 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 4: of the best things that are fun, small spurs. These 858 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 4: are not outdoorsy, you know, women like that. They would 859 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 4: rather be in a luxurious environment. Hook it up and 860 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 4: make it make us want to go out to Colorado, 861 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 4: you know what I actually. 862 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 2: I actually agree with that. 863 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: But the thing is that the reason why this episode 864 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: two things can be true. 865 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 2: I still feel bad for Angel. 866 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: I tell you why league at the end, but I 867 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: have to hold Angel's hands. 868 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 2: When I say this. 869 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: You to Dusin's point, there were no Wonderland paraphernalia. There 870 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 1: were you know how like you go on a girls trip, 871 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: there's gift bags, you know what I mean? Like, there 872 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: were no give backs with Wanda Land on them, right, 873 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: even team with the Aprons, they have their names on it. 874 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 7: A road she all had robes clearly stated didn't have 875 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 7: a name on hers hen just. 876 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 2: Still how to rod. 877 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 7: But she didn't got none to settle. 878 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, we have to remind ourselves, guys, 879 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: she actually went home to Colorado a few weeks before 880 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: the trip because her house wasn't available anymore, so she 881 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: had enough time to curate this experience. And yes, I understand, 882 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna give her grace on this part. I 883 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: understand the element of television. That's why I want to 884 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: bring Claudia in the conversation. When she hosted the Philippines 885 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: trip and I was there, it is it is a 886 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: collaborative effort. However, QuAIA ain't from the Philippines. 887 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 2: Kladia. 888 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 5: That trip was popping. We had fun and everyone got along. 889 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 5: We were like at the end of it, they was 890 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 5: like resolved ended that trip. 891 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 6: Everybody's filthy. They've aggravated. 892 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 5: They eating gas station food pizzas, which they said it 893 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 5: was good. Like that's how your trip went out with 894 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 5: the girls eating at a gas station. When you've had this, 895 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 5: I don't believe this for one second. Ten thousand dollars 896 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 5: dinner arranged out in the woods. 897 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 7: I cooked for nothing, ten thousand dollars, Okay, nothing in 898 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 7: that dollars. 899 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 3: You cook for what you saidok, for a. 900 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 6: Lot of people all the time. Okay, I ain't never 901 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 6: spent one thousand dollars on food. I'd be cooking. 902 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 5: Crab legs, lasagnas, cop roAP greedy clams with the white 903 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 5: wine sauce. 904 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I know, I should have had some. 905 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 5: I cooked like a I have a kid and like 906 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 5: I could have a husband, like four kids. 907 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 7: If you have a big elbows with from what I'm hearing, 908 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 7: I love it, Like I'm going. 909 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 6: To get the arm because I feel like that's a 910 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 6: compliment because. 911 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 7: No big elbow cooking is a compliment, Yes, bibow, and 912 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 7: I can't cook for ship, so. 913 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 5: I almost thinking you a couple of recipes and you're easy, easy, 914 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 5: easy easy. 915 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 6: And I clean as I go. 916 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 5: So yes, And I want to say this one thing, 917 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 5: angel I remember when we first talked about, you know, 918 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 5: the upcoming cast and I we were talking about what 919 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 5: her job title was and I didn't know what it was. Well, 920 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 5: I said like an upscale and outdoor tour guide and 921 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 5: she came home She's like, it is not in it. 922 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 5: She was kind of trying to read me down a 923 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 5: little bit. So I was like, oh, I said, my bad. 924 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 5: I apologize. That's so it's like an upscale outdoor excursion. 925 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 5: I wish you would have shut me up because now 926 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 5: I feel communicated. 927 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 7: I feel like she feel like Martin, you know. 928 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,879 Speaker 5: Like girl, I wanted you to shut us up so bad, 929 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 5: so we could have been like, man, we was wrong. 930 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 6: She did that. We wanted to go like this FIA 931 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 6: trip instead of this FIA trip. 932 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: You know, I love a big elbow, so I want 933 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: to I want to get off Angel for a bit 934 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: because we got to talk about the end. One of 935 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: the things that happens episode that was in the eyes 936 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: of social media, almost as big as Angels loss of 937 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: finding the location was a car ride between Stacy Jazzy 938 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: and doctor Wendy So Claudia Blue and Dustin. Stacy Jazzy 939 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: and Wendy on the car and the next thing you know, 940 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: Stacy is in the hot seat. They get into an 941 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: argument because Stacy is not happy with Jazzy for befriending 942 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,240 Speaker 1: Charise by taking her phone number. And she said, because 943 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: Charis said things about me, and even after she said it, 944 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,240 Speaker 1: you still decided to pretty much be friends with herr 945 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: Jazzy said, her defense. 946 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 2: She always tries to defend Stacy for lying. 947 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: And that she wouldn't have any friends or if she 948 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: could not get to know anybody that Stacy doesn't like. Okay, 949 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: and that's when Wendy dropped the bomb and tells Stacy 950 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: that if she expects loyalty, she has to give it. 951 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: Based on the fact that Wendy at Stacey Stacy if 952 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,720 Speaker 1: it was her intention to go to her wedding before 953 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: she found out that Ashley and Wendy were coming. 954 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 2: She said no. 955 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: The shady ether flashback to where she found out Ashley 956 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: was coming once again, Stacy be lying, I love you, Stacy, 957 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: you got caught in a lie. Claudia, what were your 958 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,959 Speaker 1: thoughts from the fact that at this point Wendy went 959 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: to town on Stacy used. 960 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,240 Speaker 2: A bunch of f bombs, and all of this happened 961 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 2: in the car. 962 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 1: We'll get to what happened at the picnic table of 963 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: the gas station show, But in the car. 964 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 2: Do you feel like. 965 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: Doctor Wendy was out of line for the way she 966 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,439 Speaker 1: spoke to. 967 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 5: Nope, Because when someone lies to your face and like 968 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 5: talk to you like you stupid, I would have the 969 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 5: same reaction. I gotta say this to you, Wendy. Highlight 970 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 5: of the season to me, I thought that car scene 971 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 5: was epic and the ending was epic, and I was like, Okay, Wendy, 972 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,760 Speaker 5: like you know, the whole season, she was kind of demure, 973 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 5: she was a little bit of popping off. She popped 974 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 5: off and she kind of like, you know, she kind 975 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 5: of got a little straight in her voice in that one. 976 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 5: I liked it, like I like people holding each other 977 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 5: accountable to their face. And I liked it because it's 978 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 5: it's frustrating. You already know when're go on a reality show, 979 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 5: there's gonna be a lot of people lying, fronting, posturing, 980 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 5: tending to be something that they're not. So I you know, 981 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 5: and you've been on the show a couple of years, 982 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 5: that shit is very aggravating. So yeah, I like that 983 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 5: she like, you know, no, I like that she did 984 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 5: it in her face. 985 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 6: Real time, handled it, and you know, yeah, she's like, 986 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 6: I've been a good friend to you. 987 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 5: I defended you, which is true, And Stacy, you got 988 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 5: to learn how to have conflict with someone without like, 989 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 5: you know, if you have one thing that goes wrong 990 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 5: in a friendship, you don't blow up the whole friendship 991 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 5: because of that one thing, you have to talk with them, 992 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 5: because Wendy did. Really when they did the flashbacks, it 993 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 5: really showed that Wendy was having her back, and that's 994 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 5: what we was every week talking about Stacy's breath. 995 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 6: Nobody was walking with her. 996 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 5: At that time, and Wendy was the one that turned 997 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 5: the tide for people to start like liking Stacy like that. 998 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 6: It wasn't sat. 999 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 5: It was Stacey leaning into who she was, but it 1000 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 5: was also Wendy giving her a coat sign. 1001 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, Dastan, yeah, I'm with Claudia on this. 1002 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 4: I think that Wendy has shown up as a great 1003 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 4: friend to Stacy amongst the sea of women who were 1004 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 4: taking jabs and just making it difficult for her to 1005 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 4: exist on this show, and that was refreshing to see. 1006 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 4: We always love to see the real bonds that form 1007 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:53,320 Speaker 4: amongst the cast members, right, and Stacey did Wendy did. 1008 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 3: Hold her accountable or whatever. 1009 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 4: I don't want nobody talking to me like that, you 1010 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, But you know, Wendy did hold 1011 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,479 Speaker 4: her accountable, you know, And it was good to see 1012 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 4: because ultimately it was received because Stacey knew that Wendy 1013 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 4: had good intentions when he wasn't trying to embarrass Stacey, 1014 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 4: she wasn't trying to hold her or punk her in anyway. 1015 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 3: She just was. 1016 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 4: They were having a passionate conversation where they were spirited, 1017 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 4: and that was good because it was real. We could 1018 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 4: tell that was real, and it was great to see. 1019 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 4: I'm glad that Wendy. I think that we're going to 1020 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 4: see Wendy benefit next season from having a true friend 1021 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 4: on the cast and a true ally because next season, 1022 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 4: obviously there'll be a large focus on Wendy's legal, you know, situation, 1023 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,280 Speaker 4: and I think that we'll really get to see Stacy 1024 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 4: have Wendy's back next season in that same way, and 1025 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 4: that'll be good to see. 1026 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 3: So, you know, it was great. 1027 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 6: Wendy's face was she laughed, She's like, we do it now. God, 1028 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 6: it was funny. 1029 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 4: But didn't y'all feel like Jazz like I love Jazzy 1030 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 4: on this cast make I've been clear about that from 1031 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 4: day one. I did feel like this was a bit 1032 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 4: of a reach because so what if she wasn't going 1033 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 4: until or whatever the fuck she came, who kives a fuck, 1034 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 4: like she's your friend not coming with no, oh my god, 1035 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 4: you didn't come to my like, well, no being a 1036 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 4: guy right now. 1037 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think there's and I'm gonna 1038 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: get to YouTube. 1039 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,760 Speaker 2: Blue. I think this vote, Dustin. 1040 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 1: I think she fuss because because Stacy checked her for 1041 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,439 Speaker 1: befriending Sharise. Yeah, and I think that's when JAZZI said 1042 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: and Stacey I was surprised that Stacey was visibly upset 1043 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: by that. So I think Jazz was like, look, bitch, 1044 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,720 Speaker 1: I already know you didn't you came to my wedding 1045 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: because you were encouraged to buy Wendy Because I think 1046 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 1: Jazzy really did feel like her and Stacey was closed 1047 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: because remember last season, Dustin, I'm me, I miss you 1048 00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: when Jazz and Stacey went to Miami for a birthday 1049 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: and me pull the Angel and got lost in translation 1050 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: on the boat child and they didn't see her. 1051 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 2: So I think they bonded then, So I think they 1052 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:17,720 Speaker 2: had a friendship. But Blue Blue, do you think Wendy overreacted? 1053 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 2: Was she justified for her tongue? It was a tongue lash, ye, 1054 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 2: it was. 1055 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 7: I don't First of all, I don't think Wendy overreacted 1056 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 7: because we have to think about it. Wendy's always been 1057 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 7: a good friend, but it's rare that we see her 1058 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 7: have a good friend. Look what happened with her and Karen, 1059 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 7: same thing that happened with Stacy. Everybody's coming after you. 1060 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 7: I constantly have your back, and then I find out 1061 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 7: that you're being a little shady towards me, even though 1062 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 7: I've been a writer, died for you. So I do 1063 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 7: think there's some pain with Wendy that she's been trying 1064 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 7: to have genuine friendships this entire time. She tried it 1065 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 7: with Karen that blew up in her face. Now she's 1066 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 7: talking to Stacy. I will say this the part that 1067 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 7: made me cackle. She's like, Stacy, I know you're crazy. 1068 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 7: I know you lie, but you can't do that to me. 1069 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 7: I thought we understood you to get to these other bitches. 1070 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 7: I know you were lying as bitch to them, but 1071 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 7: I'm your real friend. 1072 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 5: Like when she said that, I was like, wait, we're 1073 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 5: not gonna react, and given. 1074 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 7: Like everybody understands Stacy's nuts, but she got these two 1075 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 7: real friends in the corner. So I thought that was 1076 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 7: crazy that she was like, no, I know you're lying. 1077 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 7: I know you're always lying, but not with me. And 1078 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 7: I do believe that when you have a crazy friend, 1079 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 7: you're like, now a friend, you know, I'm the one 1080 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 7: person that you can't bite, right, So, and I think 1081 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 7: Stacey's a little feroh sometimes. And so she was like, oh, 1082 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 7: you're right, you're right, You're right. You're the safe one. 1083 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,439 Speaker 7: You're the safe one. I will throw Stacey some veil though, 1084 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 7: and saying when you do lie a little bit to 1085 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 7: your co workers because you don't want me really with 1086 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 7: them like that, you sometimes get mad on principle more 1087 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 7: than morality. And I think her principle I speak Stacy, 1088 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 7: is I told you this lady called me a hole 1089 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,439 Speaker 7: from the nineties and was talking foul about me at 1090 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 7: this function, and you try to acquire her as a 1091 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 7: new friend after the fact. That feel that might feel 1092 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 7: a way to Stacy, who feels like she's constantly being 1093 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 7: ganged up on, Like why are you trying to become 1094 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 7: a new friend to somebody who's already done me? Y'all 1095 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 7: didn't have a pre existing relationship, so that I actually understood. 1096 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 7: I do think Jazzy sometimes is auditioning for Telenovella. It's 1097 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 7: kind of little it's all very a lot every time 1098 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 7: she gets upset. So when she's upset for a good reason, 1099 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, this is a real one. 1100 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 2: Okay. 1101 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 7: So I think it was a little bit, you know, 1102 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 7: Ricky Ricardo a little lucy, but I like her for. 1103 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 2: Being big like that. 1104 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 7: I miss Candade and I do think too though, that 1105 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 7: Stacey and Wendy's argument is probably why they're so close, 1106 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 7: because I will say this, the first time you piss 1107 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 7: somebody the f off and they show how much they 1108 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 7: love you and you are getting on their good nerve, 1109 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 7: you're like, oh my god, you care. And I think 1110 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 7: Stacey looked into Wendy's eyes and she was like, oh, 1111 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,720 Speaker 7: you're right, you're the one I do tell the truth. 1112 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 2: To my bad friend. 1113 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 7: I was doing that crazy shit that belongs to the 1114 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 7: other bitch is my bad friend. And watching them come together, 1115 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 7: I think they are going to be the dumba Luise 1116 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 7: of next season. As all this funny from the outside, 1117 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 7: I would love to see it. 1118 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 6: I love that they got back on track. 1119 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 5: I will say this with Stacy and the chery saying 1120 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 5: she does have a point. If you heard someone call 1121 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 5: me your home saying that's promiscus and that's a new 1122 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 5: friend and you decide to like exchange numbers. I probably 1123 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 5: I'm taking you a side of that. 1124 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 6: What the fuck you doing? What you know this girl 1125 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 6: is talking about me? 1126 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 5: Why are you giving her your number? Why you exchange 1127 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 5: numbers with the ops I she had? She definitely had 1128 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 5: a point with that for sure. 1129 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,240 Speaker 2: When when you. 1130 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: When you all heard Giselle talk about the relationship she 1131 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: has with her mother, how she only speaks to her 1132 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: mother once a week and they're not as close as 1133 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:41,240 Speaker 1: she was with her dad, Dustin, did it shed shed 1134 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: some light on who Giselle shows up as a woman 1135 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 1: on this show, as a friend on the show, because 1136 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 1: you know, look, let's let's let's call the elephant in 1137 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:53,240 Speaker 1: the room. 1138 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 2: A lot of people think Giselle's a mean girl who 1139 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 2: hates people like she isn't another sorority. 1140 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: And when you hear about the relationship that she has 1141 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: with her mother, did it. 1142 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 2: Give you. 1143 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 4: Know, there's just a light on like who she is 1144 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 4: for sure and for me personally, it shed a lot 1145 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 4: of light on how she is as a mom. Gazelle 1146 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 4: is although she has a bit of a distance it 1147 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 4: seems between her and her mother. When it comes to 1148 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 4: their closeness or lack thereof. She's extremely close an adulting 1149 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 4: mother to her daughters, and I think that that's why 1150 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 4: it's so important for her to be that way with 1151 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 4: her daughters. That's why she got mad and lied a 1152 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 4: couple of seasons ago. It was that season six reunion 1153 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 4: when Gazelle sat up there and lied and said, Wendy 1154 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 4: rolled her eyes at her daughter when she walked past, 1155 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 4: and it really made her so upset, you know what 1156 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,320 Speaker 4: I'm saying. But that was indicative of how she mothers. 1157 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 4: And I think that that's because what she's great at. 1158 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:49,359 Speaker 3: Right. 1159 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 4: I obviously know Gizelle don't give a fuck about nothing 1160 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 4: in this world, but she give a fuck about them daughters, 1161 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 4: and so I think that's why it's so important. As 1162 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 4: far as her social engagement with the women, that's more 1163 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 4: of a zel thing. I think that her mama's relationship 1164 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 4: with her is just what it is. But Gizelle is 1165 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 4: a mean girl to these women in the cast. It's 1166 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,919 Speaker 4: very entertaining and that's why we love her on this show. 1167 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 4: But it is what it is, you know what I'm saying. 1168 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 4: She does hate these women. She does talk to people 1169 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 4: like they're crazy, and I think a lot of that 1170 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 4: is rooted from her being a first lady before too. 1171 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 4: There's a churchy messiness to her antics sometimes that I 1172 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 4: think is reflective of years of boot camp in practice 1173 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 4: in being disruptive to social harmony. I put it like that, 1174 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 4: so that that's what I think. 1175 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 2: That that was good. 1176 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 3: Blue. 1177 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: Do you think Gizelle's personality has a lot to do 1178 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: with the relationship she has with her mother? 1179 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 7: Yeah? Absolutely. I agree with all of Dustin's sentiments about 1180 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,479 Speaker 7: how a lot of times when you don't get something 1181 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 7: from your mother, you're completely devoted to being that thing 1182 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 7: if you have a child yourself. I can totally see 1183 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 7: that in her. I also do think though, that the 1184 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 7: thing that she gets from her mom and from being 1185 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 7: the first lady of the church is you have to 1186 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 7: earn respect the church boot camp. Anybody who's been to 1187 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 7: the Army or Sunday service will tell you you get 1188 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 7: the respect that you earn. There's a little bit of 1189 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 7: internalized misogyny in that, right, because you know that they 1190 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 7: are church people who if you act like a whore, 1191 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 7: they treat you like a whore, and if you act 1192 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 7: like a lady, they treat you like a lady, Giselle. 1193 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 7: If you act like you have confidence and you bite back, 1194 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 7: she might be your friend. In two seasons, right took 1195 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 7: her and Wendy look at her at Stacey and behold right. 1196 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 7: But if she thinks that you're punk, she gonna treat 1197 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 7: you like one. And so I think she acts like 1198 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 7: somebody who's in the cell block, and you have to 1199 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 7: earn your stripes with her, and the Angel hasn't earned 1200 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 7: stripes with anybody, unfortunately. And I do think though that 1201 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 7: there's a distaste in the collective's mouth that they're taking 1202 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 7: it the lightest on Sacy because Hazey is hazey, but 1203 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 7: Stacy's been walked on eggshells, and they're like, we are 1204 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 7: being the lightest with you, and you are crum the hardest. 1205 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 7: We extra think that you weak. 1206 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: Claudia, do you think Gizelle suffers from pretty privilege and 1207 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: that also is some of the reasons why people consider 1208 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: her to be a mean girl who looks at these 1209 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 1: women as a hazing sorority? 1210 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 2: And what are your thoughts on her relationship with her mother. 1211 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 5: I think when people grow up the entire lives being 1212 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 5: told they're pretty from when they're a little girl. 1213 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 6: We didn't have that in our family. 1214 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 5: By the way, I think that some people think they 1215 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 5: can like punk you and play with you. So sometimes 1216 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 5: you have to overcorrect and be extra extra aggressive and 1217 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 5: extra sometimes bitchy and sometimes mean because you like they 1218 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 5: like how they look at like light skin men. Oh 1219 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 5: he a punk, he's probably weak. Oh you act in 1220 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 5: light skin. I think there's a similar thing with like 1221 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 5: pretty girls. Sometimes sometimes they overcorrect, and I think that's 1222 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 5: what she did. And then when she got a reaction 1223 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 5: on Housewives, listen when she's mean, what we do talk 1224 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 5: about her, get attention, keep book secure for more seasons. 1225 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 5: She's the ship, she's the pots there, and that works 1226 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 5: on reality TV. It's the same thing Kenny Moore, did 1227 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Oh, she's I know her 1228 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 5: to be nice, but when she got on that show 1229 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 5: like she's I mean, you know, she did things and 1230 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 5: likestir the pot. 1231 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 6: Like it made the shit entertaining. 1232 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 5: And you know, TV these reality shows will make you 1233 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 5: kind of like change up a little bit. Like I 1234 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 5: don't believe for one second that everyone is on TV 1235 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 5: like they are in real life all the way. 1236 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 2: I really don't. 1237 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 6: I really don't like you can't. How can you not? 1238 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 5: You look at the comments, you make adjustments, you want 1239 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 5: to get the first seat, You adjust things that you 1240 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 5: would probably you're yourself on steroids, so yeah, probably you 1241 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 5: know you ain't about to play with me and punk 1242 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 5: me and think you're gonna do this that and the 1243 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 5: third and when you're themed a pretty girl, you know you. 1244 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, of course it's some pretty privilege here. 1245 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 5: She probably do like looked down or notes sometimes like 1246 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 5: y'all can't see me. 1247 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 6: Of course, of course that's there. 1248 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 5: And as far as I relates to with her mom 1249 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 5: talking to her mom once a week, I don't know. 1250 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 5: Probably there's some distance there, and then that's why she's supermom. 1251 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 5: A lot of parents, you know, we all see that 1252 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 5: you can go one of two ways, repeat the cycle 1253 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 5: of your parent, or be you know, overcurved, not over correct, 1254 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 5: but fill in all the gap that you didn't have 1255 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 5: when you was a kid. So whatever a mom did, 1256 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 5: it worked out for her kids, So I'm happy about that. 1257 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: One of the other things that happened in the other 1258 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,160 Speaker 1: vehicle that had Giselle Ashley and Monique is Ashley rebuilt 1259 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 1: to Monique as she did run until her ex husband 1260 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: Chris and Okay belostarer too the body language shifted my laptop, Okay. 1261 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 1: Ashley told Monique that she happened to run into to Chris. 1262 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 2: She said, I thought tweet the story. 1263 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 1: Ashley said that she did ask Chris if he was 1264 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: dating Stacy. She said that Chris took a bottle sifted 1265 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 1: and like, you know, rolled his eyes a little bit 1266 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: as if it could have been one of the other Monique. 1267 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Monique looked disgusted by it, and it was like, you know, 1268 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 1: that's just Chris. She doesn't believe they're dating. She believes 1269 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Chris is being immature about the response. 1270 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 2: But Blue, what are your thoughts on that? 1271 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: Ashley not telling her about this when it happened weeks ago, 1272 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: but telling her then. 1273 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 2: And do you think Chris and Stacy were ever actually dating? 1274 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 3: No? 1275 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 7: First of all, I saw that Sarah talking about him. Okay, 1276 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 7: you got money Blue. 1277 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,440 Speaker 5: Before you came on. He's got something planning because look 1278 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 5: how he's dressed and. 1279 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 6: Date Blue. Look at it, Julie. Can we see her? 1280 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 5: Julie, your hands both hands call us please no, no, 1281 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 5: on the pink on the ring, finger on the point 1282 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 5: of finger for. 1283 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 6: You guys, Titty hanging out like he's got I. 1284 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 2: Saw ariola and some gold. 1285 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 7: That's flying. So I was distracted by the Sarah Toogan 1286 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 7: and Titty me the question. Yes, ash she's a barnacle. 1287 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 7: That's that's actually is a barnacle. She is a bottom, 1288 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 7: She's a bottom feeder. You know, they just they just 1289 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 7: they just stick to the bottom of the bucket. Uh, scavenger. 1290 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 7: She'll just take little pieces of mess and wait, like 1291 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 7: little little pellots of doodo and just sprinkle on things 1292 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 7: so that she could be relevant for five minutes. So 1293 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 7: I think Ashley is questionable, and I don't believe for 1294 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 7: one second that she just forgot to tell everybody that 1295 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 7: she was kicking it with Chris. And by the way, 1296 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 7: she's the one who, first of all, let's rewind, I'm 1297 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 7: about to pull a dustin where my memory does a 1298 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 7: little thing in a file foule. When they were at 1299 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 7: that dinner where Stacey said, I'm not sitting with K 1300 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 7: and M. I'm only sitting with Monique, right, and they 1301 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 7: were talking about why is Chris hitting up? Hitting me up? 1302 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 7: Saying I heard you were talking about me. As she 1303 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 7: was at that table pretending that she had no idea 1304 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 7: where he had heard it from. But now you fast 1305 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 7: forward to the core and suddenly she said, oh yeah, 1306 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 7: who told him? Yeah, he was hanging out with me 1307 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 7: and the kids. You know, he was helping me change 1308 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 7: a tire and I happened to say, you smash the stick. 1309 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 7: Ashley Darby is such a harbinger of chaos. I would 1310 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 7: not leave it with my husband, my son, or my purse. 1311 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 7: It is questionable when she is in the room, I 1312 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 7: would say to her and her forehead, I got a 1313 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 7: big one to whatever. And I alsoly think that even 1314 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 7: g Zelle was stunned by how messy Ashy was. I 1315 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,960 Speaker 7: was like, wait, this entire time, I thought y'all had 1316 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 7: this basic ass conversation. So Monie's been fighting for her 1317 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 7: life in the dark, not knowing the basics. And now 1318 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 7: she was like, oh yeah, my bad as she's nasty work. Bro, 1319 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 7: she's nasty work. That's my opinion, Claudia. 1320 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 5: She show waited a long time to drop that tea. 1321 01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 5: I would think that's something she would immediately called her 1322 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 5: best friend Gizelle in the last her like, come on, like, 1323 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 5: let's be very clear. When you get something like that, 1324 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 5: you've hitting up your girl. 1325 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,360 Speaker 6: On the show, Cynthia. 1326 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 5: Guess what I found out, yo, Kenya, this is what 1327 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 5: we're gonna do. Like, come on, there's no way, there's 1328 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:04,120 Speaker 5: no way, there's no way they're lying about not knowing 1329 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 5: or she tried to hoolelessen. I don't see how you 1330 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 5: hold on something like that for so long and like wait. 1331 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 6: To drop it. But I know what I do think 1332 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 6: she's doing. She's being a reality star. Yeah, being a 1333 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 6: reality star. 1334 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,440 Speaker 5: Of course, in real life you smacked the show your 1335 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 5: friend for doing that, But in a reality show, you're like, ooh, 1336 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 5: that's sc rating. That's great, that's now we want to 1337 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 5: know what's gonna happen to the reunion. It's reality TV again. 1338 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 5: Their their personalities on steroids, and that is a moment. 1339 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 5: You would never accept that in your real life and 1340 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 5: your real life friend circle like we when you know 1341 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 5: ta on something like and we cool, you better tell 1342 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 5: me immediately like you're supposed to. And there's actually a 1343 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 5: real fear in your heart when you have a real 1344 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 5: friend circle, like I better tell us so she don't 1345 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 5: hear from somebody else exactly, because especially with female friendships. 1346 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 1: Well to your point, I think to your point, that's 1347 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: why a lot of people and all of us are 1348 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 1: on Wendy side. 1349 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 2: When she did speak to Stacy. 1350 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 1: Although some people thought, you know, Wendy ain't ain't a 1351 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 1: friend to all by I think to your point, if 1352 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 1: that's your real friend, you will have that big. 1353 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,520 Speaker 2: Of a reaction if you felt like they're playing you. 1354 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,919 Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah. 1355 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: I was surprised by Monique's response because Ashley allegedly, you know, 1356 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 1: claim she she thought she told her. 1357 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 2: I don't think she did either, But Dustin. 1358 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 3: What do you think, actually ain't ship? You know what 1359 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 1360 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 4: She sat there and lied her ass off, and you 1361 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 4: know what, Claudia, you're right. And she actually did tell 1362 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 4: Giselle because remember they cut to Gazel's interview scene and 1363 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 4: she was like, I thought, actually been told Monique that. 1364 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,880 Speaker 4: So they did have that conversation you were talking about, 1365 01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 4: you're onto something with that, And I just think that 1366 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 4: even the way that actually I can't stand there when 1367 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 4: people know they're doing some bullshit and then they try 1368 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 4: that they had that that that smile on their face 1369 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 4: while they doing it. I thought, I told you that 1370 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 4: that kind of shit that that you know, we all 1371 01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 4: got our triggers. That kind of shit pisces me off. 1372 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 4: So when I was watching that scene, I was like, 1373 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 4: if Monique, no, I know she on her healing journey 1374 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 4: to hit her. She got rocks in the window and 1375 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 4: all that. Now I know. My thing is sometimes you 1376 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 4: got to go back to that barnyard Monique that was 1377 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 4: standing at that winery, you know what I'm saying, and 1378 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 4: did what she had to do real quick. And sometimes 1379 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 4: you have to bring that spirit into the situation. And 1380 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 4: that is your ex husband, that's the father of their children. 1381 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 4: That's a conversation that the person who brought you back 1382 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 4: into this group quote unquote should have had with you. 1383 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying to let you know what 1384 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 4: was up. That's not something you forget. That wasn't no 1385 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,919 Speaker 4: detail that she just overlooked or forgot to say something 1386 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 4: about that was intentional. That was an intentional omission, you 1387 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, of some pertinent information. 1388 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 3: And that was fucked up. 1389 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 4: And I hated that she had that same mister Burne's 1390 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 4: ass look on her face from The Simpsons when she 1391 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 4: was talking about fucking. 1392 01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:01,920 Speaker 3: On Sharissa's son, saying I did not tell doing all 1393 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,760 Speaker 3: of that ship. You know what, I mischievous, you know. 1394 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 4: What I'm saying, exactly what she looks like doing all 1395 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 4: of that, You know what I'm saying, Like that kind 1396 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,719 Speaker 4: of when you're talking about some seedy, fucked up ship. 1397 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, you have that mischievous looking 1398 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 4: in your eyes. It just makes you look like the 1399 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 4: ultimate creep. And so I don't know. And then in 1400 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,760 Speaker 4: them confessionals talking about fucking in tubs and just all that, 1401 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 4: it just feels forced. It doesn't natural. I don't believe 1402 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,720 Speaker 4: you just are naturally, you know what I'm saying. It 1403 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 4: just feels forced. Like she's trying to make that her 1404 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 4: theme this season, and it's just not entertaining for me. 1405 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 5: It's it's like a lazy thing to do, to be 1406 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 5: like the overly sexual girl. 1407 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 7: Right by the way, yeah yeah. 1408 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 5: And also I think she's making up for once she 1409 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 5: married to the old white guy. 1410 01:08:55,360 --> 01:09:00,439 Speaker 7: Yeah oh yeah. Now and then things that's high talk. 1411 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,840 Speaker 5: Now all of a sudden, she's this overly sexual sex 1412 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 5: kitt and then we're like, I'm like, that's like all 1413 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 5: the girls that go around talk about how good the 1414 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 5: pussy is all the time. 1415 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 6: I'm always like you know, I'm not saying to ask 1416 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 6: is bad. 1417 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 5: I have no idea being the overly sexy girl, you know, 1418 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 5: because when you're sexy, you just are. 1419 01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,800 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Blue dry post energy. 1420 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,559 Speaker 7: We've talked about this last week, and we know dry 1421 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 7: Perst energy when we see it on this show. 1422 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 5: Now, it's probably wet for the youngster the sun. Then 1423 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 5: that's the problem, you know what I mean? Like, well, 1424 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 5: well that's Peter Bear energy. 1425 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 7: You know what, Actually start over, actually just start over. 1426 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 2: Well we all learned in this car ride. Let me 1427 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 2: start with dust. 1428 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:52,400 Speaker 1: You know. 1429 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:57,759 Speaker 5: Can we talk about our good pussy for one second? 1430 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,600 Speaker 6: I want us to have great. 1431 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 2: Talking about life. 1432 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 5: Because he got a date coming through tonight. We can't 1433 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 5: like it's it's only half. 1434 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 7: You're not giving drive fus, Carlos. I'll tell you that much. 1435 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 2: Not at all dusted. 1436 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:17,280 Speaker 6: He's given a hard time. 1437 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 2: So with that big said, look, he's. 1438 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,720 Speaker 5: Probably there right now on the couch waiting naked. We 1439 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 5: harpe and wrap that goddamn recap show up, dick out. 1440 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:30,439 Speaker 6: I'm ready to go. Let's go. 1441 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 7: Smell good in the house. I can tell he got you. 1442 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,680 Speaker 5: Know, you got candles going and he probably got some 1443 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 5: of those essential oils going. 1444 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:44,880 Speaker 4: Lavender not for lazy moms, not for lazy moms. And 1445 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,519 Speaker 4: on ye home he said, what was windy ship? 1446 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:48,800 Speaker 1: On ye? 1447 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 6: He know made the bed up and everything he got. 1448 01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 2: Dust the wrong? What did you think about? Yeah? 1449 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:08,439 Speaker 1: They Monique Gizell Ashley kind of put two and two 1450 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:13,120 Speaker 1: together by saying, Hmmm, the mystery is who went back 1451 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 1: and told Chris what we're talking about and seen they 1452 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:16,879 Speaker 1: all said. 1453 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,839 Speaker 2: It with Stacey. Stacey has denied it. They then realized that. 1454 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Angel's husband, Bobby and Chris our friends, and Week was 1455 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 1: reminded that. 1456 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,880 Speaker 2: She actually shipped like a package to Angel and Bobby. 1457 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 1: So they were like, oh wait a second. That means 1458 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:39,160 Speaker 1: Bobby and Chris still have a relationship. So could Angel 1459 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 1: have been the one to go back and tell Chris 1460 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,599 Speaker 1: what was said in the scene? Dustin, do you think 1461 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,719 Speaker 1: it was Angel or Stacey that went back and told Chris? 1462 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 4: It was probably I don't think Angel went back and 1463 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 4: told Chris. I think Angel talked to her husband, and 1464 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,759 Speaker 4: I think that he might have said something to him. 1465 01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 4: That's what I think. I don't think Stacey is, you know, 1466 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 4: walking around in a trench coat and sunglasses and a 1467 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 4: for doora sneaking around to have conversations in back alleys. 1468 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,040 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying with Chris fucking Samuel's like, 1469 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 4: I just don't think she's going at of an effort. 1470 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 4: But it is plausible, right that Bobby would have had 1471 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 4: them conversations. And Angel when they asked her about it, 1472 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 4: you know, she's gonna of course, I said something to Bobby. 1473 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:31,600 Speaker 4: He's my husband and we're having personal conversations, and just 1474 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 4: like her, and then and then the shady producers held 1475 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 4: the frame for two seconds too long after she fins, 1476 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about it. Yeah, I do like when 1477 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 4: they that's what happened, That's what happened, So. 1478 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 3: That that that seems reasonable. 1479 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying to me that for the 1480 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,599 Speaker 4: information that have taken that journey toward Chris. 1481 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 3: Making no better. 1482 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,639 Speaker 7: We had said that maybe the reason why Monique felt 1483 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 7: so fromamiliar with Angel was because their husbands were. Yeah, 1484 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,720 Speaker 7: so it seems like whenever there's a weirdness between the 1485 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 7: four of them, it's the husbands sometimes chatty, but you know, 1486 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:15,760 Speaker 7: as a man, and so I just need chatty. The 1487 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 7: boys be chatty, So I do think it'd be funny 1488 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,200 Speaker 7: if the whole time we got housepots fighting, it's two 1489 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 7: NFL players who are actually the girls in the back, 1490 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:24,680 Speaker 7: fueling all this. 1491 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,560 Speaker 4: Trauma, laughing at it, laughing about it, and busting the 1492 01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 4: egg on each other's foe heads like the color you 1493 01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,679 Speaker 4: had mine, laughing and ship like just beating their chest. 1494 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 3: That's what happens sometimes, So that makes more sense to me. 1495 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,000 Speaker 6: I agree with both of y'all. I think it's the 1496 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 6: I think a man did this. 1497 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 5: Either it was I'm saying it was either Bobby running 1498 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,080 Speaker 5: it back to his boy or you already know Chris 1499 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:51,839 Speaker 5: Samuels is messy. 1500 01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think he may have, Like maybe he. 1501 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,800 Speaker 5: Even he couldn't eve hit up face people they're saying 1502 01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,439 Speaker 5: about me, they say anything about me. Who knows what 1503 01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 5: their real relationship because we really don't know. Wasn't there 1504 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,160 Speaker 5: like a picture taken of them, and then she was 1505 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,360 Speaker 5: talking talking on a hot mic about that they did 1506 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 5: hang out, then she didn't, that she did have his number, 1507 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 5: then she didn't. She's kind of been low key all 1508 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,680 Speaker 5: over the place with that, So who knows. But I 1509 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 5: do think a dudes is behind this as well. 1510 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, listen, as as somebody who frequents the barbershop 1511 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 1: men straight men gossip two child with everybody got so 1512 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:27,040 Speaker 1: Bobby don't. 1513 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 6: Like these girls at all. He knows that's no secret. 1514 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so listen, that's very plausible. All right. 1515 01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,759 Speaker 1: So as we get to the end of the trip, 1516 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:43,639 Speaker 1: everything went to shit. Angel said that she unfortunately went 1517 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:48,759 Speaker 1: the opposite direction of where the fly fishing ten thousand 1518 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,799 Speaker 1: dollars dinner or lunch was going to be held. 1519 01:14:52,760 --> 01:15:01,960 Speaker 7: The ladys no kissing me off of this ten thousand dollars. 1520 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:02,960 Speaker 2: Ain't just stop lying. 1521 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:07,400 Speaker 7: Okay, you ain't evicted, and you paid ten thousand, paid 1522 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 7: so for that fish to fall into the sea that 1523 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 7: you don't even. 1524 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,960 Speaker 6: Eat three seventy five tops, and that's being generous. 1525 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 7: That's with the reds got you a big old fish. 1526 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,600 Speaker 6: Go ahead, those stay bought in. 1527 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 3: Bulk Gordon's Food service. 1528 01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 5: Go ahead, Carlo, you're pissing me off with that. 1529 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Angel went to the opposite direction. She said, they 1530 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,840 Speaker 1: sent her the pen. She followed the pen. It wasn't right. 1531 01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 1: The girls KK and and Tia. I don't know if y'all 1532 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,440 Speaker 1: saw at that point their face said, oh bitch. 1533 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,519 Speaker 2: We're this, You're done. 1534 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,839 Speaker 7: They had no first car. They were like this, there's 1535 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,559 Speaker 7: no helping. You got a funeral. They were in the 1536 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,040 Speaker 7: funeral in that car. They were like, you're gonna die right. 1537 01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,760 Speaker 7: There was no helping. The ladies, she calls them. And 1538 01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 7: this was the wale part because I sound was gonna 1539 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,400 Speaker 7: bring it back. This was the part I felt extremely 1540 01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 7: bad for Angel. Did y'all see her the tone of 1541 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:10,559 Speaker 7: her boys Dustin's impersonation, but the look on her face 1542 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 7: on FaceTime because she knew that there was nothing she 1543 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,639 Speaker 7: could say. She looked defeated. 1544 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,400 Speaker 1: It was done, and that was the moment I felt 1545 01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,920 Speaker 1: bad for her. I also felt bad because I think 1546 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 1: it come to her business. Listen, I have to say 1547 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,559 Speaker 1: this because you guys know I want all of us to. 1548 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,720 Speaker 2: Win, and I know you guys do too. Yes, I 1549 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:34,800 Speaker 2: would like to say this. 1550 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 1: If you guys want to experience Wanderland, I think you 1551 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 1: should do it for your own experience and not let 1552 01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:50,360 Speaker 1: the TV experience prevent you from having it. I think 1553 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 1: if that's something you want to do, if you happen 1554 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: to be in Colorado, you should do it. Then come 1555 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,400 Speaker 1: back and let me Claudia, dust and Blue know about it, 1556 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 1: but please don't let the experience on the show prevent 1557 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 1: you from participating in what she is doing. 1558 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:10,000 Speaker 7: We should go, I think Angel invite the four of 1559 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,920 Speaker 7: us to Wonderland. 1560 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 6: No, as. 1561 01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 3: You think that. 1562 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 6: Degree on them are going. 1563 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,679 Speaker 4: To have in that maybe the way they're gonna push 1564 01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:35,760 Speaker 4: my canoe over a waterfall, I don't think so, flying zero. 1565 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,519 Speaker 7: If she can redeem to us, then everybody will trust her. 1566 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,800 Speaker 5: No, we go, but we use aliases and we use 1567 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 5: the rain the rain drops credit card. 1568 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 7: Okay, use those four seasons account is what we're gonna use. 1569 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 2: Right right. 1570 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,559 Speaker 1: Wait, Claudia does it and Blue the rankers are telling 1571 01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:53,320 Speaker 1: me is closed. 1572 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,920 Speaker 4: That makes me sad. Maybe I don't want to see 1573 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 4: her business, is true, I think? 1574 01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, Claudia, let us know how you as I 1575 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 1: look at it. 1576 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,240 Speaker 2: Let me find out first. 1577 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 1: But Claudia, give us your thoughts on the finale that 1578 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 1: will unfortunately go down in history. 1579 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 2: As you know, by funky. 1580 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,600 Speaker 5: I mean it was horrible for the people involved, but 1581 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,360 Speaker 5: it was good for entertainment because I definitely was entertained by. 1582 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 6: The show and I was like, damn like and I 1583 01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 6: liked I. 1584 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 5: Love the I love the Jazzy and Stacy conversation with Wendy. 1585 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 6: I love that. 1586 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 5: I loved the end how Wendy and Stacy, which I 1587 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,519 Speaker 5: didn't think they'd be able to piece up after that, 1588 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 5: and they did. 1589 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,600 Speaker 6: To me, that's hard because using female friendship, I you 1590 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 6: look us on the wrong way. They like, why you 1591 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:42,760 Speaker 6: look like that? 1592 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,600 Speaker 5: So that was to me, that was what's up the 1593 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,000 Speaker 5: the ending of the show, of the finales is always 1594 01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 5: so shady. 1595 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,040 Speaker 6: Yes, that's what the shade is like. 1596 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,920 Speaker 5: They talked about Stacy's non divorced so not getting remarried 1597 01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 5: and all that. 1598 01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,400 Speaker 6: I liked this episode. I liked the finale. 1599 01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,720 Speaker 5: I thought it was good. I'm actually really looking forward 1600 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,599 Speaker 5: to that reunion. I thought it was a good episode. 1601 01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,400 Speaker 5: I was into it, like I might watch it again. 1602 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,120 Speaker 5: But but Angel, we're gonna come. But when if it's 1603 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,360 Speaker 5: still open, we're not We're gonna come into aliases. 1604 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,000 Speaker 1: I will say, I'm still doing my research, but as 1605 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,840 Speaker 1: of now, Google set it is temporarily closed. Okay, I'm 1606 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,280 Speaker 1: still doing my research. Okay, dustin your thoughts. 1607 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:23,800 Speaker 3: Maybe it's seasonal number one. 1608 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:29,599 Speaker 4: I'm not going to Wonderland, right, mean you you got well, 1609 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:30,680 Speaker 4: I'm saying I'm not going with you. 1610 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 3: I'm not. I will watch the show. 1611 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 6: Nothing. You want to me cure your mountain, you gotta go. 1612 01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,479 Speaker 4: I want to watch the show, but I'm not going 1613 01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 4: to go up there and go to the woods with 1614 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,240 Speaker 4: somebody that already didn't tell Claudia. 1615 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,800 Speaker 3: They don't like me, you know what I'm saying. I 1616 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 3: don't think that. Don't even make no, you know what 1617 01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:51,280 Speaker 3: I mean. 1618 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 5: Friends went into the woods, only three came down the 1619 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 5: mountain coming out. 1620 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,520 Speaker 4: I bet you we're gonna find my body like this. 1621 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:07,639 Speaker 4: I'm going out, going out anyway on us right, Okay, 1622 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:15,320 Speaker 4: I will never mind. I was about to say text anyway. Yes, 1623 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,639 Speaker 4: it was a great finale. The entertaining from start to finish. 1624 01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,240 Speaker 4: Seeing these women outside of that element was highly entertaining. 1625 01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:22,880 Speaker 5: Uh. 1626 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 4: We had high hopes that we were let down with 1627 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,960 Speaker 4: for Angel to present Wonderland Outdoors as something that really 1628 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,240 Speaker 4: was special like I believe it actually is when executed 1629 01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,640 Speaker 4: properly and and planned appropriately. 1630 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:36,479 Speaker 1: Uh. 1631 01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,160 Speaker 4: And so that's that I'm looking forward to the reunion 1632 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 4: to seeing what happens. And I think that this bonus 1633 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:46,000 Speaker 4: episode essentially that we're getting next week with a first 1634 01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 4: hand count of Karen's experience, you know what I'm saying, 1635 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,599 Speaker 4: during her time locked up, her talking about to jail, 1636 01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 4: the way she was clasping her hands in that car, 1637 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,080 Speaker 4: like all of that. I cannot wait for next week. 1638 01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,280 Speaker 4: That is going to be must see TV. So shout 1639 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 4: out to Broadwell because that's gonna be good. Yes, mm 1640 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,799 Speaker 4: hmm Blue. 1641 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 2: What thoughts on the how the girls decided to go 1642 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:12,920 Speaker 2: back home? 1643 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,640 Speaker 7: I actually was heavily entertained. I hate how entertained I 1644 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 7: was by that mess. 1645 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:17,800 Speaker 2: It was. 1646 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,280 Speaker 7: It was, it was a fun watch. It was I 1647 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 7: was judging, like, why am I enjoying this so much? 1648 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,840 Speaker 7: This is a hot mess. I think the hygens of 1649 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,600 Speaker 7: it all and the map. Shout out to whoever was 1650 01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 7: in charge of the editing. With the map, we could 1651 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,759 Speaker 7: keep up with where people weren't and were and weren't. 1652 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,360 Speaker 7: Shout out to the moments where they showed the steak 1653 01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,960 Speaker 7: falling like it was. So it was like a comedy 1654 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,559 Speaker 7: almost right. So it was incredibly well produced. I will 1655 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:45,760 Speaker 7: say that also, though I am disappointed that Stacey and 1656 01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:50,639 Speaker 7: Andy said and watch what Happens Live that Wendy and Karen. 1657 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:54,639 Speaker 7: Karen still seems to have ire towards Wendy. That leaves 1658 01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,679 Speaker 7: a bad taste you want. You went to prison, jail, 1659 01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 7: whatever they call it, and you still haven't let this go. 1660 01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 7: So I just think Karen still having beef with Wendy 1661 01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:04,760 Speaker 7: when all Wendy did was find out that she was 1662 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,559 Speaker 7: talking about her. I don't like people who get mad 1663 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,599 Speaker 7: at you without finding out that they're shady. That's always 1664 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:10,960 Speaker 7: going to have a bad taste in my mouth. 1665 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:11,400 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 1666 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,400 Speaker 7: It's called darvo. For those who are wondering, It's a 1667 01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 7: manipulation chactor called darvo. D a r VO. Look it up. 1668 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 2: And so the fact that. 1669 01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,120 Speaker 7: Karen is still switching places and playing victim when she 1670 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,519 Speaker 7: was the one talking crazy, even after being solitary for 1671 01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,960 Speaker 7: god knows how many months, makes me wonder how much 1672 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,240 Speaker 7: she's grown. I will be keeping an open mind, though, 1673 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:33,000 Speaker 7: because Andy said he asked some really raw questions, and 1674 01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:34,240 Speaker 7: I want to see how she shows up for it, 1675 01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:38,160 Speaker 7: because I really was a Grand Dame fan up until recently, 1676 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,519 Speaker 7: and also too, if we does, Wendy, I'm looking at 1677 01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,040 Speaker 7: the camera, Wendy, I don't care if you did it. 1678 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,000 Speaker 7: I can't speak afraid of anybody else. I don't even 1679 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,760 Speaker 7: care if you did it, free Wendy. Okay, this is 1680 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,480 Speaker 7: officially a Wendy apologage. 1681 01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,200 Speaker 2: I don't care. 1682 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,240 Speaker 7: I actually don't care if you did it. Okay, Pam Greed, 1683 01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,880 Speaker 7: whatever you call yourself. I want Wendy and Stacey back. 1684 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:08,760 Speaker 1: Don't allegedly allegedly Pam Oliver alleged over ain't Oliver the 1685 01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:09,400 Speaker 1: lady with. 1686 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:14,080 Speaker 6: The hair, legendary sports caster, but yes. 1687 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,880 Speaker 3: Looked like Bruce Lee did her hair every time she 1688 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:16,559 Speaker 3: on the field. 1689 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:25,599 Speaker 5: Donny Jordan, Sorry, I'll look at the Wonderland reviews. 1690 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 1: So they're saying that update to you guys, so listen, 1691 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:35,439 Speaker 1: I would like to read a statement from Angel because 1692 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:41,080 Speaker 1: allegedly they're saying it's temporary closed because people were leaving 1693 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:48,680 Speaker 1: bad Yeah, don't do that. And somebody left the bar 1694 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:55,680 Speaker 1: review posing as Wendy Osapho. M wow, okay, So I 1695 01:23:55,680 --> 01:24:03,040 Speaker 1: would like to read angel masty statement about Wonderland that 1696 01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:13,839 Speaker 1: she said, so here it is, okay, it's kind of actually, Dustin, 1697 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 1: would you do us the honors of reading the statement 1698 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:17,320 Speaker 1: from Angel? 1699 01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,760 Speaker 5: How you stop reviews, you close it down and they 1700 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,559 Speaker 5: can't nobody can leave new comments, and how. 1701 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:25,880 Speaker 6: They do it? 1702 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:30,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the private chat on the good. 1703 01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 5: To know for if I ever started business. 1704 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:38,599 Speaker 2: It's it's three pages, Dustin Damn. You can read one. 1705 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,160 Speaker 2: You can read one page one. 1706 01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:41,000 Speaker 3: Here we go. 1707 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,360 Speaker 2: Okay, ladies and gentlemen. 1708 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:47,879 Speaker 1: This is Dustin Rawls playing the role of Angel Massey 1709 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:52,400 Speaker 1: reading the statement that she released yesterday. 1710 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:58,559 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I've read a lot of loud and 1711 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,200 Speaker 4: wrong things said. I feel they need to be cleared 1712 01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 4: up at this point. Wonderland Outdoors does not offer overnight accommodations. 1713 01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:13,599 Speaker 4: The rental home on our hop is not in any way, 1714 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 4: shape or form affiliated with our business. Wonderland Outdoors does 1715 01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:24,519 Speaker 4: not have a physical headquarters. We offer fly fishing on 1716 01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:30,360 Speaker 4: land and we have LISA agreements on an agency issued 1717 01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,080 Speaker 4: National Park Service, Forest Service, etc. 1718 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:34,920 Speaker 3: Permits. 1719 01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:41,200 Speaker 4: Our partner Horse Ranch is where we offer horseback riding, 1720 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:47,519 Speaker 4: and we also offer beautiful guided hikes and snowshoeing on 1721 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,720 Speaker 4: land that we have permits to operate on. This is 1722 01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:55,000 Speaker 4: exactly like a lot of outfitters, especially in this day 1723 01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 4: and age where new offitters don't have fly shops. We 1724 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 4: are opening a head quarters in the near future. In 1725 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,160 Speaker 4: the meantime, the closest city to where I live is 1726 01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:10,800 Speaker 4: where our office is. It's indescribably sad for people to 1727 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,320 Speaker 4: lie about a business I've built from the studs. We 1728 01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,760 Speaker 4: employ black and brown people in an industry dominated by 1729 01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:22,240 Speaker 4: CIS white mounts, and we work in so many communities 1730 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:26,240 Speaker 4: of color in Colorado to offer a free outdoor education, 1731 01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,920 Speaker 4: and we empower our guides by paying tuitions on licensing 1732 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,080 Speaker 4: and further education and equipment. I founded Wonderland to see 1733 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,200 Speaker 4: more people like me in this industry, and from the 1734 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 4: effort that certain folks to bring it down, it won't happen, 1735 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:48,519 Speaker 4: and it's actually shameful. Now y'all have a nice snow day. 1736 01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,760 Speaker 4: I haven't said all I could because it's not my way. 1737 01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 4: Keep the comments to me and not the businesses that 1738 01:26:56,280 --> 01:27:05,479 Speaker 4: supports so many. There you go, Thank you. In the 1739 01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,640 Speaker 4: book you know so good. 1740 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:14,000 Speaker 2: Any casting directors looking for their next big actor cast 1741 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:15,439 Speaker 2: Dustin wrong. 1742 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:28,559 Speaker 1: His handles are at look at Dustin Okay, please find him. 1743 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 2: I have done. And on that note, I love you guys. 1744 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:38,799 Speaker 2: Have fun, have fun, have fun, love y'all. 1745 01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, 1746 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,960 Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz and a partnership with the Lack 1747 01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,679 Speaker 1: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube 1748 01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,320 Speaker 1: channel at the Carlos King Underscore