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Speaker 1: Do it up for your host.

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Speaker 3: What's up you, guys?

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to another episode of the Battleground Podcast. Pretty

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Speaker 4: stoked about what is happening in near just a few days.

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Speaker 4: We are going to be taking over Oak Grove, Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: And I mean not me personally, I mean I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: gonna be taken over Oak Grove, Kentucky. NWA Tried and

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Speaker 4: True by any means necessary, live at our Hall and

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Speaker 4: Oak Grove, Kentucky. It's going down this Sunday, by the way.

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Speaker 4: Tickets available at NWA ticks dot com. And well, there's

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Speaker 4: well we recently just had Trevor Murdoch on. We've got

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Speaker 4: a guy that Trevor has to kind of watch his

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Speaker 4: back numerous times because he's made it very clear that

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Speaker 4: let's bring in our guests. Pope joins us on the show. Pope,

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Speaker 4: my man, thank you so much for being here with

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Speaker 1: What a battle.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on, man, And I want

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Speaker 2: to Pope just want to back up real quickly.

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Speaker 1: Man, I want to flip the script, if you will.

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Speaker 2: I want to do a little bit of correcting because

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Speaker 2: you said that Trevor has to watch his back, and

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Speaker 2: I've made it apparently clear he don't have to do

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna let him know, just like I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: to watch his back. He needs to watch his front

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Speaker 4: And you know, we were watching n WA Power and

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Speaker 4: we had Trevor on and this was kind of right

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Speaker 4: after you said, hey, look, I'm coming for it. I'm

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Speaker 4: But he's still got to keep that mind in the

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Speaker 2: And that's the key word right there in battle. Not

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Speaker 2: You watch your back for the Jack's Danes and people

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm just coming straight to him.

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Speaker 2: And the key word, like you said, is he needs

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Speaker 4: And you know a lot of these people when they

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Speaker 2: And you know what, because we go way back, there's

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Speaker 2: I talked about it, man, how happy that Pope was

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Speaker 4: Just enjoy your moment, right for sure. And speaking of

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Speaker 3: After two hundred and ninety days as.

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Speaker 4: The NWA Television Champion, you're defeated by Tyros, and you've

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Speaker 4: I saw him. A friend of mine was down on

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Speaker 4: Mentally after a massive loss like that, and didn't see

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Speaker 2: I won't necessary you know, it was indeed a hit.

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Speaker 2: It was a hit to Pope, not necessarily Pope's ego. Obviously.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to become the first to achieve the lucky seven,

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Speaker 2: you know, to defend seven times, win seven times. And

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Speaker 2: let's be clear about that stolen. Other hand, you know,

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Speaker 1: For a moment.

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Speaker 2: It had me because I didn't know that I was

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Speaker 2: in part to one Kobe Krino, whom I'm going to

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Speaker 1: But we'll talk about that soon enough.

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Speaker 3: For sure, for sure.

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Speaker 4: And of course, again, like Pope said, tried and true,

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Speaker 4: It's this Sunday, and you can still grab tickets available

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Speaker 4: you kind of talk about Kobe Kreno. We've seen him

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Speaker 4: Pope should know me because of my dad.

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Speaker 2: I know, you know, as a matter of fact, I

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Speaker 2: That's even he knows that Pope has given Kobe Carrino

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Speaker 2: when individuals decide that they want to come after Pope,

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Speaker 2: Paope ain't know how to do the the butcher. But

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Speaker 3: Right for sure.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just saying it, and it's that's kind of funny,

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Speaker 4: And it seems like it seems like everybody is, uh,

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Speaker 2: Hey, I mean a storic career if I you know,

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Speaker 1: Are seeking to achieve, you know. But again, you know,

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Speaker 2: So if you want to get dirty, Pope knows how

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Speaker 2: to get dirty. You want to keep it clean, then

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Speaker 2: Pope will take that, and then we'll deal with that

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Speaker 3: Right for sure.

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Speaker 4: And something else that we are on the show, We

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Speaker 2: Well, when's you're looking at him, you're looking at him

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Speaker 2: and thanks to President Billy Cogan of the National Wrestling Alliance,

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Speaker 2: I you know, it was a monumental moment for me

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Speaker 1: That's what got me in.

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Speaker 2: Dusty Roods, Rick Flair, the Horseman magnem t A Nikita

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Speaker 2: looking for my own hostsman, looking for my own superpowers,

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you, that thing is beautiful. Do you

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll work well, we're gonna work on an acquisition.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we're gonna we're gonna make sure you get

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Speaker 4: Because here's the thing is, on this show, we have

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Speaker 3: So we just reached had Trevor Murdoch on the show.

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Speaker 4: So you're in pretty good hands and eventually either you're

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Speaker 2: If you will, that's what your boy wants to do.

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Speaker 4: That's what I will do, And that's that's the plan

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Speaker 4: you know, even though we played nice with Trevor on

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Speaker 1: Well speaking the plan, nice man, y'all playing nice.

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Speaker 2: But then and Trevor's my boy, and now we ain't

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Speaker 1: Between Trevor and uh.

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Speaker 2: Tyros, I'm like, right, You're like, you know, we know

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Speaker 3: He's trying to play with your mind.

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Speaker 4: To get out there against you. And you know, like

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Speaker 4: Do you have any like dream just for fames dust heroes.

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Speaker 2: As soon as I win the ten pounds of gold,

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Speaker 3: And what's crazy is he's never had that title opportunity.

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Speaker 2: It would be so fitting. It would be so he

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna put this out in the universe right now.

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Speaker 4: We've already established it. You're going to win the ten

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Speaker 2: And by the universe, we don't mean the ww universe.

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Speaker 1: Were gonna get funk it.

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Speaker 4: Like n w A seventy four calling it right now, Pope,

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Speaker 3: Sorry, Trevor, you're only gonna have it, not for less

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Speaker 1: Year, like the sound of that.

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Speaker 3: That's how it's gonna be.

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Speaker 4: And you know again this going down this Sunday, make

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Speaker 4: Valor Hall and O Grove, Kentucky this Sunday, October twenty fourth.

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Speaker 3: Tickets available NWA ticks dot com.

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Speaker 4: And also they're gonna be filming some of this stuff

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Speaker 3: You know a lot of things have happening.

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Speaker 4: You said that NWA is starting to get back into

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Speaker 3: I know with COVID it kind of shut things down

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Speaker 4: But what does the NWA need to do to capitalize

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Speaker 2: I think NWA needs to continue to do what it

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Speaker 1: Listening to the fans, being.

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Speaker 2: But more importantly than anything else, when you talk about

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Speaker 2: disrespect to anyone, obviously, but this is this is old

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00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 2: school wrestling with a new school.

440
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: Field, you know.

441
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're lucky to see a dive on

442
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: this show until the old what's their name, Lara La

443
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: whatever from the new tag team champions. Yeah, I mean so,

444
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: so you're you're rarely gonna see all the crazy stuff.

445
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: We saved that for the pay per views, you know.

446
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: But and that's the way it's supposed to be. No

447
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: one should be diving off the top of a ladder

448
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: on the for free on the regular TV show. It

449
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 2: shouldn't mean something. So most of the times, when when

450
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: big things are happening for the NWA, big money, angle move,

451
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,239
Speaker 2: big moves, and whatnot. The action is always good, but

452
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: it's storytelling. NWA is storytelling. It's story first and wrestling

453
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: just comes and then brush it all in and paint

454
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: the picture that we're trying to tell.

455
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: Stick to that.

456
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 4: That is the perfect example because that's what me and

457
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 4: my co host Eli like. We grew up watching the

458
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 4: NWA stuff and to see them bring it back and

459
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 4: they did the studio wrestling and the podium and all

460
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 4: that stuff, like it was one of those things that

461
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 4: when it was on YouTube, you watched it and I

462
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 4: didn't fast forward to it. And when I first saw

463
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 4: the first commercial, I was like, what the hell is this?

464
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 4: And then I realized it's still a part of the show.

465
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 4: It's not your normal one eight hundred Geico or whatever,

466
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 4: you know. It's like Tony Fowk' what was a tire

467
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 4: Irons and waffles and idols wrestling school, Like it was

468
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 4: a part of the show, which made it more entertaining.

469
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 2: The Cycha, the Psychic it was always my favorite. The

470
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: ball is Psychical woman, she was always my favorite.

471
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 4: It's the best, and that was the That's the thing

472
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 4: that makes NWA stand apart. And like you said, I mean,

473
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 4: you look into it, and there's there's the names, you know,

474
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: and then you've got the people that you might have

475
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 4: heard on if you came and they went to like

476
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 4: the local army or whatever. Like going back to it.

477
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 4: Your opponent this Sunday Colby Carino. We've seen him wrestle

478
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 4: numerous times in Nashville, unlike these little.

479
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 3: Independent shows, right.

480
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 4: And that's the thing with NWA is they're finding and

481
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 4: cultivating that talent because like you could sit here and say, well, Thunderosa,

482
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 4: where did she come from?

483
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: NWA?

484
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: Right? Right?

485
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 4: And you look at another one of the female roster, Camille,

486
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 4: who's an absolute stud Like she scares the piss out

487
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 4: of me, and we had her in studio and she

488
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 4: intimidates me just standing there and I was like, Hi, Camille,

489
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 4: my name's Battle, thanks for being here. And and that's

490
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 4: the thing is they're getting that homegrown talent and they're

491
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 4: cultivating the next superstar.

492
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: It's the art of inclusiveness. It's the art of inclusion.

493
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: And we saw that with with Polo Dale Mar.

494
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: Shout out to Polo.

495
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna watch this, you know, Polo Dale Mar,

496
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: you know uh and and some other uh indie uh

497
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: main stage that they went out Mickey James and they

498
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 2: all brought in you know, we worked with Impact at times,

499
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: we got uh Kylie Ray and all. I mean, so

500
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 2: it's just it's just great and I'm with you one

501
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: hundred on that.

502
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: It's the art of it. It's the art of inclusion.

503
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 2: And Billy Cogan and Pat Kenny, they've done a wonderful

504
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: job of finding and bringing in young talent uh that

505
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: may be known from the indie scene, but haven't had

506
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: the platform to be seen.

507
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: Worldwide, right for sure.

508
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 4: And it's very rare, and you've worked with quite a

509
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 4: few people, it's very rare to have your boss that

510
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: is like an absolute wrestling thing. Because we've had Billy

511
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 4: on the show twice and like just his just his

512
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 4: passion and love for wrestling is the best. And then

513
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 4: you've got some people that could be a little out

514
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 4: of touch with wrestling, but Billy's like, no, no, no, this

515
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 4: is it. I mean, like going to get the Burke

516
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 4: out of like bringing that back. I mean that goes

517
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 4: to show how much Billy cares about the NWA and

518
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 4: the history of it.

519
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: And the one thing I like about again, you talk

520
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 2: about real wrestling fans and you talk about Billy listen

521
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: as long as they do listen see this right here,

522
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: read that.

523
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: This is dusty to me. Read this now.

524
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: I don't want you to worry about that. I want

525
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: you to say what you want to say the way

526
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: you want to say it. And you let me deal

527
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: with Stephanie and Vince mcmah and say with Billy Cogan.

528
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 2: You know, as long as they put that mic in

529
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: front of Pope, send me to the podium, you know,

530
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: and you just let Pope do Pope. And I love that,

531
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 2: and Billy trusts Pope and that's the way it's always been,

532
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: even going back to vins Russo as well, who people

533
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 2: have may not understand, but he understood Pope. And I

534
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: love that podium aspect of n w A where Billy

535
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: let the guys go out there and be themselves.

536
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: Yes, don't nobody know how.

537
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: To get an individual over better than themselves. No one

538
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: can speak all right for them, let them effectively conveyed.

539
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: That's old school, daddy.

540
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's kind of one of those like okay,

541
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: here's here's where we kind of you know, you start out,

542
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 4: this is the finish.

543
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: Whatever you do go as long as you get to

544
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: the finish, have fun.

545
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 4: That's it, and don't say anything that we have to

546
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 4: cut and at it and you get in trouble.

547
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: For so now I kind of want to go back.

548
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: And I see the the Internet and the Twitter and

549
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 4: all the internet wrestling community, and now I'm not sure

550
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: if this is true or not, so I want to

551
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: I want to go straight to the source. But when

552
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 4: you began training at OVW, were you off to spot

553
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 4: on the Spirit squad?

554
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: Of course?

555
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: What what was that talk like, well, this is my.

556
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: Ideal and gona make a lot of money. That's basically

557
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: what it was. The investment man brought me Ken Done,

558
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: Mitch Mitchell, and Doff Ziggler, which was nicknamed at the time.

559
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: He brought all four of us up. It wasn't going

560
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: to be five people, it was just four and.

561
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: He said, you know, look, this is this is my idea.

562
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: I tried.

563
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: I wanted to know what brings heat and and so

564
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: he was on this he was on this jet and

565
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: he said he thought everybody hates male cheerleaders. Who doesn't

566
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: like male cheerleaders out they're doing and so we uh,

567
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: he was like, we're gonna make a lot of money,

568
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: and he was very adam that he being invested with

569
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: many Vinceco. This is my idea. No writer came up

570
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: with this, No one advised me. I came up with this.

571
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: So I'm telling you we're gonna make a lot of money.

572
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: And he said, it's up to you guys, and you know,

573
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm not forcing any want to do anything. And so

574
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: I heard what he said. Of course he don't want

575
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: you to do it if you're not gonna be able

576
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: to effectively do it and do it right, and if

577
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: you're uncomfortable. So uh, that was basically it. I took

578
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: a moment after he got done talking. I can remember

579
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: I always remember Ken doone. You know, he's he's younger

580
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: than me. So he was just He's like, yes, let's

581
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: do this. I'm out, I'm out here, I don't want

582
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: to be I'm done with ov W let's go. So

583
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: it was a lot of excitement, but there was a

584
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: lot of uh, you know, worry from my end because

585
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking right now and right then, I was

586
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 2: thinking long term. I was thinking longevity. I was thinking,

587
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: you know, is this what I you know, left the

588
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: law enforcement industry for and come here? Uh and is

589
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: this what I want my career to be? And how

590
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: much of an effect that was going to have? So

591
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: long story short, I went back in. I called Johnny's

592
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: and I say, Johnny, can I talk to you for

593
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: a second? And he came over, Yeah, Well what's going

594
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: on kid? I said, I want to go talk to Vince.

595
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: I don't think this.

596
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: Is for me. Sure, you're gonna make a lot of money.

597
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: I said, uh yeah, and I'm appreciative, but it's just

598
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: not for me. So all right, this is going to

599
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: respect that come on in this And so we went

600
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: back in Vince office.

601
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: I told Vince, and Vince said.

602
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: Respect that house and you're back down, bring you back

603
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: up later, and that was it.

604
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: He shook my I shook vince hand and he said,

605
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: we'll see you back.

606
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: Go b W. I got heat from a lot of

607
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: other boys I was talking about behind my back.

608
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: Uh, you probably knew that was gonna happen.

609
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

610
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: One thing I didn't expect and and this is a

611
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: little tidbit that I've only just recently shared, but I

612
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: shared here.

613
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: I shared on Frecine's podcast.

614
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: Uh, I was when we all ov w developmental guys

615
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: when they have to go to the shows when it's

616
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: you know, around Louisville, but the Cincinnati, indianaples. We got

617
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: to make the road trip. And I'm there and all

618
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: the guys, the young guys, we line up to pay respect.

619
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta go shake the hands or the undertakers.

620
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: Or or pay your dues.

621
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: Pay your dues. So everybody was shaking hand to one

622
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: of the guys, all right, yeah.

623
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: And one of those guys, when my turn came to

624
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: shake their hand, turn turned his head and I went

625
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: and then turned this way, and I'm like, okay, cool.

626
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: It was like he was like, you said no, and

627
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: you're still here. And the rest you'll have to read

628
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: about the Posts book when I write it.

629
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: But that's wait for that book, because I'm ready for

630
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: that book.

631
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: Because I was sitting here, I was like, are we

632
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 4: about to get like an exclusive content? Nope, get the

633
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 4: books the Pope's Book when it comes out to Amazon

634
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: hardback copy twenty nine ninety five sixty dollars if you

635
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: want the autograph copy of it. Now you talk about

636
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: being in law enforcement, and I want to go back

637
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: to that. Do you have like a crazy like law

638
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: enforcement of like arresting a drunk person, like, what's the

639
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 4: craziest moment that stands out when you think back to

640
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: your your law enforcement.

641
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: Career besides being an intake and and booking someone into

642
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: the jail.

643
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: Good crazy?

644
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: This is the intake was backed up, and so I

645
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: got on the computer that we used to enter the

646
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: guy's information and the OBW first ever OBW Tryout Camp

647
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: banner came across the screen.

648
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: That's what got me.

649
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: Here's that that started the process. That's so that's good crazy.

650
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: And so I clicked on it and I'm like what

651
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: And I took two weeks off. I took a two

652
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 2: weeks you know, off, and I went to Louisville. And

653
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: that's how it all started. That banner popped up on

654
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: the screen. I don't know how, but as you have

655
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: effectively conveyed here, it was in the universe.

656
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: And so I've always said I wanted to do always

657
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: it was there.

658
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 2: So anyway, see crazy crazy is when I was working

659
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: in the jail and I get off the elevator with

660
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: my food on my break and I'm going to go

661
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: back to the pod.

662
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: And as soon as I get off the.

663
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: Staff elevator, the inmate elevator opened up his well, as

664
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: some guy stepped off the elevator, he looked and he went,

665
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: you whoa, and he started coming at me and he

666
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: started coming and I just had to drop.

667
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 4: I could just like, did you get to watch the

668
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: security footage of that, like a replay or something would

669
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: have happened or you just well, I don't know what

670
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: I would do if he just I mean.

671
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 3: Headlights to be like is this real? Is this happening?

672
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: And it almost it was like that.

673
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: It happened so fast, but yet it was in slow motion,

674
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: if it makes sense. And there was an officer right

675
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: there in the pod that that could have opened the

676
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 2: door to come out to assist me, but he didn't.

677
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: And guess who ended up being the bad guy?

678
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: You were? He was a mental patient.

679
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: But I had no You know, it don't matter if

680
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: he's mental or not. I was in physical harm. I

681
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: was in jeopardy. So I had to do what I

682
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 2: had to do. I had to hit them and then

683
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: I took them down to place handcuffs by myself, food

684
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: spilled and everything. Before you know, assistance is called by

685
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: the guy that was in the office. You know, That's

686
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: why I always tell these And you're just gonna have

687
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 2: to stick with me for a second. Here's the issue

688
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: when it comes to this wrestling stuff. You know, everybody

689
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: and they daddy want to get in the ring and

690
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: be a professional wrestler.

691
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: But the issue is when they get in there, they've never.

692
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: Been in a fight in their natural life, so they

693
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: don't know how.

694
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: To effectively make things look like it should.

695
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: And this is what's wrong with the world the professional

696
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: wrestling today. You can see someone get in there and

697
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: jump and do a double doucy dozy off the top

698
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: rope into a hurricane rada, spike pole driver, you know,

699
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: into a canayion destroyed. They can do all of that,

700
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: but they can't effectively portray being upset and in a fight.

701
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: You look at the punches they suck. You look at

702
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: the forearms they suck. They don't just because they've never

703
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: been in a real fight.

704
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: In their life, and they just they And here's the thing.

705
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 4: It's like, I was a I was a part of

706
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: a match here in Nashville for a TV tape.

707
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: Hey, that's what we do on the show.

708
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 4: And you're ready for Sunday, by the way, So it's

709
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: kind of the precursor to Sunday getting you pumped up again.

710
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: By the way, try and treat in NBA's by any

711
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: means necessary at Oak Grove Valor Hall to get still

712
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: available NBA takes dot Com. But here's the thing is,

713
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 4: like I know wrestlers, it's it's a whole different thing.

714
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: And uh, as my dogs.

715
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 4: Are barking in the background, so I'm getting worked up

716
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: as well because we're all getting worked up on this show.

717
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

718
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 4: I know how much hard work goes into that because

719
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 4: I was a part of a show and I was,

720
00:37:54,040 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 4: uh just a special guest manager and like never full disclosure,

721
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 4: never been in a wrestling ring, got in there and

722
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 4: didn't realize how bouncy, like how movement. It was just

723
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 4: walking and then like jumping up on the apron and everything,

724
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: and like gotta be careful not to get your foot

725
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: caught between the apron and the ring, and it's you

726
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 4: got to overthink things.

727
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: And it was like a quick five minute match.

728
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 4: But it was like where am I supposed to be,

729
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: Like I know you said do it on this part,

730
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: but I'm supposed to be on this side of Like

731
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 4: it's it's a whole thing that some people don't understand.

732
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 4: They just get out there and be like, they suck

733
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 4: at wrestling.

734
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: They're three minutes, but do.

735
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 4: You understand But most people don't understand that three minute

736
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 4: match at least took a twenty five to thirty minute

737
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: walk through.

738
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what people. People were like, Oh I

739
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 3: could do that. No you can't.

740
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: No, no, at least for those who do walk throughs,

741
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: and god knows I can. I've never had a twenty

742
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: five minute walk through. I wouldn't say that, but I

743
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: certainly understand what you're saying. It goes back to even

744
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 2: you know, you got to learn how to effect to

745
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: walk run in the ring like you were Sanders. You

746
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: can blow out your patella you yeah, I mean anything, man, ankle.

747
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: It is just that you gotta put the time in

748
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: it as much show that.

749
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: When I came to overw I spent countless nights after

750
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: practice throwing a punch at a light bulb that was

751
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: on my vanity in my bathroom. Because I'm a boxer.

752
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: I was boxing, so I wanted to learn how to

753
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: throw a punch. So at first I took four arms,

754
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: good looking for arms, but I knew I was going

755
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: to have to punch, and I needed to punch because

756
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: they were going to talk about my boxing background, right,

757
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: so I can't come in there and not punch.

758
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: So I had to learn.

759
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: How to punch in a way that I'm not knocking

760
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: someone's teeth out or hitting them your stuff.

761
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: And I've had that happen before, you know. So yeah,

762
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: so you gotta put the time in.

763
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, just like anything else.

764
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: And you know, you look at at Pope's career and

765
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: it's like law enforcement, wrestler, boxer. And probably not many

766
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 4: people know this, but you were originally cast it to

767
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: be in Django Unchained the movie.

768
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: Correct.

769
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's that's you know. I hate to even

770
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: talk about that. Uh you told me you wouldn't ask

771
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: me now, I'm just kidding. But no, that that right there.

772
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: It's so touching because I have Jangle Unchained in in

773
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 2: my Blu ray collection.

774
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: I've never seen it, really, I was. I was on

775
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: set for three months.

776
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 2: TNA knew I was there, had nothing going on, and

777
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: then they wanted to bring me back for the BFG

778
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: series Battle Royal.

779
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

780
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: During the time of being there, you don't start with

781
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: the main scenes. You you build in, you know, just

782
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: like you would do with the house lay the foundation.

783
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: Then you build a house, and then you build everything

784
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: else in the same way, same way with the movie.

785
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: You start the foundation, which is the movie script, you

786
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: build everything, shoot everything from the outside, and then you

787
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: fine tuned and add everything in. So I was there

788
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: and we're shooting, and I'm on set, and I'm out

789
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: there and the dog on what I like to call the.

790
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: Hog pen, but it's the Mandingo pin. You know, I

791
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: was out there in that pin that got huh.

792
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: I think I know what you're talking about. That that scene. Yeah,

793
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: we're out.

794
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: There retakes retakes, not for per se Us, but because

795
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: of the you know, uh, Jamie fox coming up on

796
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: the horse, you know, to come to that dog on

797
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 2: mansion and then you know, it's hot and the sweating

798
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: and my hair is in nest I had to grow

799
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: facial hair and and when it you know, I'm chilling

800
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: with Jamie FOXX, I'm literally laughing, sitting next to Quentin Tarantino,

801
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: who selected me, who wanted me right, and as much,

802
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I slapped Quentin Tarantino on his three times

803
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 2: his normal size behind. You know, we made a funny

804
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: you know, so so it was good. It was good,

805
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: you know, Caroen Washington, and now this goes on. But

806
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: my point is this, Leo got sick. And when Leo

807
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: got sick, you know they're not going to start shooting

808
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: until he's ready. You know, whether that's two days or

809
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: he said I need another day or whatever. It was

810
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: raining that halted production when it rains, of course, and

811
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: then you got to let the land drive because we

812
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: are shooting on old plantation grounds. And then Leo got sick.

813
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: And now okay, Leo's ready. Now we need this from you, Elijah.

814
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: We need this now, you know. And that's when TNA called, hey,

815
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: can you come. I'm like, hey, no, they need me.

816
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: This is my part. We'll we'll we'll fight you down

817
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: and fly you right back up. And I'm like, they listen,

818
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: if they shoot tomorrow and Leo say he's good, I'm

819
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: going to miss out. And I've been here all this time,

820
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: old on worry. I'm sure we'll, you know, We'll just

821
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 2: get you down. And this is when they were shooting

822
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: on Thursday. So I flew long story short, I'm in

823
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: I'm in makeup, uh and the seam shirts. I'm seeing

824
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: the seam shirts and I get the call, Hey, yeah,

825
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: we gotta use your standing, we got to replace you,

826
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and Miss Carter gets the phone, Hey,

827
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: this is Dix to Cardif with's Fight TV and you

828
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: know we can do wonders promoting the movie, and everybody

829
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: just goes.

830
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: Everybody trying.

831
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: Everybody's like, hey, like, what the hell can t NA

832
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: do for quit Tarantino?

833
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: Like, you know, so it was. It was crazy.

834
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: The part when they're fighting inside the house, the two Mandingos.

835
00:43:59,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: That's me.

836
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: The part where Leonardo DiCaprio dies and his prize Mandingo

837
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: is carrying him on the shoulder, that's me.

838
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: Again. I only know what.

839
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: The script was for me. I've never seen it, but

840
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: so that's how I know. I've never seen any part

841
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: of that movie.

842
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: And me and my one of the post former.

843
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: Future Baby Mamas was just talking about this two days

844
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 2: ago and she was like, maybe you should watch that movie.

845
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: I've seen it.

846
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, I'm sure the day would come when

847
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: I want to, but it'll probably But for those of

848
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: you who are watching and listening, know that it was

849
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: my choice.

850
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: I chu used to go.

851
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: Back and take that chance, because why everybody was doing

852
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: that complaining about.

853
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: All Tena's not paying people. Stars are complaining about their money.

854
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: My check.

855
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't even wrestling. My check was coming on time

856
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: all the time. Even while I wasn't I was away filming.

857
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: So I had to go to where my bread was

858
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: buttered at. Yeah, and so you know I took that chance.

859
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 4: And that's a completely understandable reason because, like you said,

860
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: I mean, you got to go where your bread and

861
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: butter at. So I mean and and that's that's kind

862
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: of leading into my next question. Now with that, is

863
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: that something you like to pursue eventually on a full

864
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 4: time basis, maybe down the road once you've kind of

865
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: hung the boots up, Like do you want to go

866
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 4: into acting some more?

867
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: Or yeah, I want to go where I'm one and

868
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: where the opportunity presents itself. You know, I've been on

869
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: speaking about any means necessary. I've been on Necessary Roughness

870
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: on the USA Network. I've been in Tyler Pair of

871
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: Productions for one of his shows. I can't remember what

872
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: it's called. You know, I've had several bits of acting

873
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: and you know, nothing Major Django Unchained was going to

874
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 2: be a red carpet and the PA was telling me

875
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: this is going to be a big movie like this

876
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 2: is going to be big, and to have my name

877
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: in the credits and for me to go there, you know,

878
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: and it's like, gosh, I wonder what would.

879
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: Have happened, you know, exactly right.

880
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: And then I get back to when I go do

881
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: the Batman thing where they select me for the Dark.

882
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 1: Knight Roses and we want you.

883
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: You're gonna be on the front line during our fight

884
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: scene because we know your background and you're a wrestler

885
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: and you're a former boxer.

886
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: And then they put the during stunt man's in front

887
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: of me, and you.

888
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: Know, but then the only time you see me is

889
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: during that clash, but you gotta know it's me. And

890
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 2: then I get back to Impact Wrestling and Mike Tana

891
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: and tazid On comment tell yeah, Pope's returned from shooting

892
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: Dark Knight Roses and it's like, oh my gosh.

893
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 4: And you know, and I feel as if, like like

894
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: you said, I mean, everything happens for a reason. It's

895
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 4: out there in the universe, and I mean, you're doing

896
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: good things in NWA and of course we've already put

897
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: it out in the universe that that ten pounds of gold.

898
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: It's gonna look really nice back there with that next

899
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 4: to that Michael Jackson Thrower album you got there behind you,

900
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 4: So it's gonna look be a nice little mantlepiece to

901
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 4: hang up in the room back there. So again this Sunday,

902
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 4: it is going down tried and true in NWA's by

903
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: any means necessary live of our haul in Oak Grove, Kentucky.

904
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 4: Takeet still available NWA ticks dot Com. Now your match

905
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 4: has been announced. We kind of touched about Colby Carino

906
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 4: and you're facing Colby this Sunday, Like, do you have

907
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: any mindset of going in or do you just kind

908
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 4: of think of this as like, I know, Kobe, it's

909
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 4: not gonna be that big of a match.

910
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 3: We're just gonna go in, get the penning, get out.

911
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.

912
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 2: You never underestimate an opponent. You never underestimate. Kobe has

913
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: been putting his time man inside the ring, and I'm

914
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: sure he's preparing to be in the ring with Pope.

915
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: This is a match up for him that I know

916
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: he's looking at as a big deal and or lose.

917
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: He's looking at it as a big deal.

918
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: How's he going to come out of this match looking

919
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: you know, how's the perception go to be? And and

920
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: and that's what I do every time I step in

921
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: the ring, even when I'm doing the independent shows. So

922
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: my my thing is to simply show up and just

923
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: beat Pope.

924
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 4: That's it, that's it, That's that's all you gotta do.

925
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 4: And of course again it's going down this Sunday tried

926
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 4: and true. Nwas by any means necessary at Valor haul

927
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: O Grove, Kentucky. Still got some tickets, by the way,

928
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 4: NWA ticks dot com And uh, we're actually gonna be

929
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: at the show.

930
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: We bought our tickets. That's how much we want to

931
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: show support to the crew.

932
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 4: I mean, we could have easily hit up Crimson or

933
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 4: Jacks or any of them been like, hey can we

934
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 4: get tickets, but no, no, no, no, we want to support

935
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 4: the guys.

936
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 3: We bought our tickets. You got to get your.

937
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 4: Tickets as well, n WA ticks dot com. And uh,

938
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: real quick, before we let you go, where where's the

939
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 4: best place to follow you?

940
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: And what do you want to say to everybody?

941
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: Well, I'll hit the following the second.

942
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: I just want to say this, much like with you

943
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: guys buying the ticket, I just first one will to

944
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: say thank you.

945
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: We appreciate your support.

946
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: It reminds me of some of my folk who come

947
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: down to my charity events, which I'm coming up on

948
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: my tenth annual Love Drive for the love a lot

949
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: of charity and guys. You can head over to love

950
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: Dashallive dot org to learn about Pope's charity, Love Alive

951
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: Dash lovedashalive dot org, slash donate to contribute to the charity.

952
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm a publicly funded charity.

953
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: I don't get grants from the government is not supplying,

954
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: but we've been serving the community of Jacksonville. Come January

955
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 2: the eighth, this will be our tenth year. We feed,

956
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: we clothed, and we feed directly. Go to Poke TV

957
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: on YouTube. Here's another go pull up the video. We

958
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 2: feed hundreds, I'm talking three four wrapped around the block,

959
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: lined up for hours just to get a hot meal.

960
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: And the hot meal not a.

961
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: Suit truck, not peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, not out

962
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: of a brown paper bag. We feed them directly out

963
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: of Burger king. That's how we do it. And yeah, man,

964
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 2: and and and and it comes our homeless community here

965
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: is horrible. Uh, and it's bad and a lot of

966
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: people politicians, uh, people that are important positions. They do

967
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: things based off of uh perception, what what can come

968
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: from it for them? You know, I've been I've been

969
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: born and raised in Jacksonville, Florida. Only time people do

970
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: stuff is when there's natural or disasters and stuff of

971
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: that magnitude. So anyways, not to go too much into it.

972
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: We will commence on January eighth. We always end our

973
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 2: annual event with a huge wrestling event which is gonna

974
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: be called Duvall Brawl for and guys, again, you can

975
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: have to love that Schland dot org to look into that,

976
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: and I will.

977
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: We've had tyres uh there we all.

978
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: We've had Rebel Flying, Bryan Junior has been our heavyweight champion,

979
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: and the list goes on. So we get people from

980
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: all walks of lives that are going to be there,

981
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: Ashton Star, the Russell.

982
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: Twins, Black Magic, got a Baltimore man.

983
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: These people come down, they joined Pope in feeding and

984
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: clothing the homeless, and then two hours later we're at

985
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: the building getting ready to do the show. So so yeah,

986
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 2: so again, guys, you can follow your boy at the

987
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: Black Pope on Twitter, at the Black Pope on Instagram, Facebook,

988
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 2: dot com, slash Elijah Burg and of course Pope TV

989
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: for pop TV on YouTube and please please visit lovedationalive

990
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 2: dot org. Uh drop he clicked the donate button. Drop

991
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: a dollar one dollar, help makes the difference, to help

992
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: your boy and all of us continue to be the

993
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 2: change that we wish to see.

994
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: In the world.

995
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 3: Definitely for sure.

996
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 4: And of course we'll also drop a link down here

997
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 4: below and we'll make sure everybody can click on that.

998
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: You can get director straight to there from the YouTube

999
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 4: channel and also on the podcast. We'll make sure we

1000
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 4: include in the tweets and all that social media. But

1001
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 4: hope looking forward to.

1002
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: Seeing you on Sunday. We'll come say hi.

1003
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 4: And I believe Eli's gonna come bringing all of his

1004
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: belts because he's like on this this hunt to get

1005
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 4: He's got the television title and he's got the ten

1006
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 4: pounds of gold and he's like, I am determined to

1007
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 4: get the champions signed on these belts. So we'll definitely

1008
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 4: have to swing by and say him. Pope looking forward

1009
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 4: to Sunday, And again, thank you so much for taking

1010
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 4: the time out and hanging out with us today.

1011
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It was the place.

1012
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 5: We hope you enjoyed today's episode of the Battleground Podcast,

1013
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 5: make sure you give it five stars and a nice review.

1014
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,719
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1015
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:49,280
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