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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Stealer Nation. It is the Drive on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. Quest Shooler and Matt Williamson with you

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Speaker 2: here for the next two hours on this Tuesday. Is

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Speaker 2: Matt we are I don't know if No Man's Land

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Speaker 2: that might be putting it a little too drastically.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get that feeling though after the super

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Speaker 3: Bowl for a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit, But the post super Bowl pre Combine couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks is always a little weird, yeah, because like, are

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Speaker 2: we still reacting? Are we starting to look ahead? You know,

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Speaker 2: free agency is right around the corner, but the combine's

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Speaker 2: a real big piece of the offseason. But before we

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Speaker 2: get there, but thirteen days till the combine, twenty seven

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Speaker 2: days till free agency, forty seven days till the annual

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Speaker 2: league meetings this year out in Arizona, and seventy two

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Speaker 2: days until the NFL Draft. So we do have obviously

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Speaker 2: plenty of big ticket items, big offseason moments on the

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Speaker 2: horizon here. But I don't know, these two weeks it's

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Speaker 2: always kind of like how much do we really jump

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Speaker 2: into the draft and free agency versus kind of putting

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Speaker 2: a bow on the season, on the proceedings. So we'll

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Speaker 2: do a little bit of both today.

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Speaker 3: It's weird. I mean, I've done this longer than you,

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Speaker 3: and you know, every year is kind of the same.

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Speaker 3: This one's so different because the Steelers made a coaching change.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's so rare. Yes, So usually that portion

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Speaker 3: during the playoffs, after the playoffs or whatever, whenever the

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Speaker 3: Steelers get eliminate eliminated, I started to really examine their roster.

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Speaker 3: Then I start digging in the free agency. But this

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Speaker 3: year we had all the assistant coaches hires and all

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Speaker 3: that stuff too, So I feel like I'm really behind

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Speaker 3: on free agencies in draft. But there's a lot of time.

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Speaker 2: Too, there is, Yeah, there is a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of time and cannitys stuff like that too.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get into some of that stuff today.

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Speaker 2: In fact an hour number two, Matt, I want to

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Speaker 2: spend two segments on it with you. I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about cut candidates around the NFL and some of

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Speaker 2: those of which will relate to the Steelers. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then specifically cut candidates for the Steelers. We'll do

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Speaker 2: that in our number two. About fifteen minutes from now,

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes from now, we'll talk to our buddy Allen

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Speaker 2: Saunders from Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: He was at the Senior Bowl, he was at the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, so just plenty for us to pick his

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Speaker 2: brain on over this last week, week and a half

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Speaker 2: or so, and we're going to talk some quarterbacks and

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Speaker 2: just kind of quarterback needy teams like the Steelers, how

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Speaker 2: they approach this draft this off season, and what feels

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Speaker 2: like a much greater demand than there is supply in

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Speaker 2: that department.

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Speaker 3: It's a bad year to each quarterback shopping folks. I

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Speaker 3: don't think any of these answers are going to make

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Speaker 3: you do jumping jacks, but that's the conversations they're having.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna have these conversations too. Somebody is going

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Speaker 3: to line up on Week one as the Steelers starting

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Speaker 3: quarterback and to be part of a plan. We will

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Speaker 3: have to divulge how we would handle it and what

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Speaker 3: the options are, strengths and weaknesses of going a lot

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Speaker 3: of different directions and maybe you can hit a diamond

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Speaker 3: the dudes available are gonna be the next Sam Darnold

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Speaker 3: to leave their team in the Super Bowl. But there

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Speaker 3: were questions about him too. In the last offseason.

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Speaker 2: Oh there were a lot of people, yeah, giving that

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Speaker 2: guy one hundred million dollars, you know, So, yes.

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Speaker 3: We know Jones had a ton of questions. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Big time, big time. And then there's some people like

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Speaker 2: the Gino Smiths of the world where it felt like

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Speaker 2: they're out of the woods. They're not an All Pro superstar,

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Speaker 2: but they're a good quality NFL starting quarterback, right, and

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Speaker 2: then they take a massive step back. So yeah, plenty

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Speaker 2: to get to in that conversation. But you're right, Matt,

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Speaker 2: somebody has to be under center for the Steelers when

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Speaker 2: the season opens in September. By the way, I had

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Speaker 2: this in my notes here too, ninety two days until

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Speaker 2: the projected schedule release. Oh wow, that's one of those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be a couple.

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Speaker 2: Days off, but about ninety two ish, give or take

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Speaker 3: I always do a show that day, like as as

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Speaker 3: I want to say, it's always on a Thursday but

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Speaker 2: Feel like it's always the last Thursday in May or

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Speaker 2: history and some yeah, that's not just a complete shot

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Speaker 2: in the dark. About ninety two days away from.

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Speaker 3: They do such a making that a big day because

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Speaker 3: you get like three days of content out of the schedule,

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Speaker 3: when before we'd like, what.

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Speaker 2: Do you like about how it falls? Where's your mast advantage,

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Speaker 2: where's your disadvantage? And then everyone does the proverbial way

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Speaker 2: too early predictions when when when, Oh that's a loss,

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Speaker 2: then by the time we get the training camp, the

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Speaker 2: rosters have changed and all these things, and everyone's got

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Speaker 2: different opinions. But Matt, as you said, we will find

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Speaker 2: out that schedule sometime in May. There will have to

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Speaker 2: be a QB one for the Pittsburgh Steelers when the

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Speaker 2: season officially gets going in September. And I think you

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Speaker 2: and I both agree that right now, while it's not

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Speaker 2: a massive number, maybe fifty to fifty at best, Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers is the leader in the clubhouse to be that

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Speaker 2: guy for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes, I think for a

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Speaker 2: lot of reasons, but chief most amongst them what we've

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Speaker 2: heard from Mike McCarthy since he became the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think we can agree that it's highly unlikely

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Speaker 3: that anyone currently under contract on the roster is the

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Speaker 3: opening day starter. There's only two of them, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: my bet, you know, I think it would be Rogers.

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Speaker 2: Same, but I also think the real But if you

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Speaker 2: gave me the Rogers or the proverbial Rodgers or the field,

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Speaker 2: I think that's about fifty fifty. I think that's about

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Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. Yeah, which is it's.

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Speaker 3: For better or worse. I mean, the field isn't.

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Speaker 2: Great, No, but it's also not It's a lot of this,

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Speaker 2: A big chunk of this is out of the Steelers hands.

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Speaker 2: If Aaron Rodgers says I'm retired, so you oh, out

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Speaker 3: You need to he says I'm gonna go sign with

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Speaker 2: You need two to tango so it feels a little

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Speaker 2: bit like, you know, speaking of the Olympics. All those

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Speaker 2: who do you want in this race?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good?

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Speaker 2: When Tiger Woods was at his best, Tiger Woods or

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Speaker 2: the field, who's gonna win the Masters. It's feeling a

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Speaker 2: little bit like that for different reasons with Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: has made, they have not shied away from. I did

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Speaker 2: we want to replay. So last week Matt Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: was on the DV Morning Show with our friends Randy Bauman,

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Speaker 2: Mike Pursuda, Abbey Krisner, that whole crew, and we played

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Speaker 2: play specifically what Mike McCarthy had to say about Aaron

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Speaker 3: I remember he says opening press conference, but I don't

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Speaker 3: remember he said this.

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Speaker 2: Is because in his opening press conference it was kind

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Speaker 2: of a thirty thousand foot general. Yeah, I'd definitely be

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Speaker 2: interested in having a back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are you interested having a back?

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Speaker 3: Here, that's a different conversation.

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Speaker 2: Here he gives like a sixty seventy second detailed answer

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Speaker 2: why and a little bit more in depth as he's

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Speaker 2: answering a Mike pursued a question. Here's what Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 5: I'll say this, this is this is normal for him

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Speaker 5: it's important for really all these all these guys to

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Speaker 5: page truly gets turned onto the onto the new year.

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Speaker 5: So I think Aaron's just going through his process and

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Speaker 4: But you know, I'm right there with you, Michap.

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Speaker 5: I hope he's coming back. You know when you when

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's remarkably gifted in his ball placement. Just

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Speaker 5: I think being comfortable, you know, with the offensive players,

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Speaker 5: to be you know, a year improved on what on

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Speaker 2: Micha McCarthy there last week on the d V Morning Show,

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Speaker 2: and what really stood out to me there and his

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Speaker 2: he talks about this is normal for Aaron get away

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Speaker 2: this time of year, take some time, decompress, reset all

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Speaker 2: those things. So it almost like not that again. And

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Speaker 2: you and I will get more into this as the

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Speaker 2: time presents itself. I don't think they're gonna do the Hey, Aaron,

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Speaker 2: We'll give you until the first week in June to

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Speaker 2: make up your mind like we did last year.

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Speaker 3: H you don't want to be held hostage quote.

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Speaker 2: But it also it also sounds like they're not going

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Speaker 2: to really right away kind of push the envelope with

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Speaker 3: That all adds up. Now, there's some stickiness to that though, too.

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Speaker 3: You know, like I think I would want to know

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Speaker 3: by the day the draft opens, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was my biggest thing. I don't need

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Speaker 2: to know at the beginning of March when free agency opens,

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Speaker 2: but I need to know by the middle of April

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Speaker 2: before we get to the draft.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know we'll get the names and we'll talk

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Speaker 3: about a ton of these names today weeks to come.

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Speaker 3: The guy that I'm most intrigued with.

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Speaker 2: Is will Malik Willis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have been for months because I think

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Speaker 3: he might actually be the answer, not a stop gap,

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Speaker 3: I mean, and if he isn't, so be it go

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Speaker 2: He has been on the Allen Saunders World Tour, Shrine Ball,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think maybe a little over fifty percent.

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Speaker 4: I think i'd take I think i'd take Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: I think those questions are very hard to answer.

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Speaker 6: I just I have a hard time, you know, feeling

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Speaker 4: Isn't gonna happen. That might be something I would.

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Speaker 6: I don't see a lot of better options out there

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 6: That is like Rogers has been very good about working

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Speaker 6: I think always though, when you're looking at someone you

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Speaker 4: They are what they are.

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Speaker 6: I would rather take, especially when you already have Will

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Speaker 4: Has backup floor. Basically, I would be fine.

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Speaker 3: Did anyone at the Senior Bowl at that position stand

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Speaker 3: There. Yeah.

441
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just thought that doesn't excite me for the Steelers.

442
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 6: I thought he had a really good senior bow for

443
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 6: him and probably for me, established himself as sort of

444
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 6: that worst quarterback four in this class depending on where

445
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 6: you put Shambliss if he does end up in this class.

446
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 6: I don't know, waiting on a Mississippi judge to just

447
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 6: throw a ranch in that process because I don't know

448
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 6: why I feel like it's coming, But yeah.

449
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 4: I feel like he did really well. I just for

450
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 4: the Steelers.

451
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 6: That doesn't That doesn't excite me. I guess some of

452
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 6: the other guys that were there that are more athletic.

453
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 4: Taylon Green.

454
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 6: Him, Well, the thing about him is you kind of

455
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 6: get two bites of the apple because if the quarterback

456
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 6: thing doesn't work, maybe you can turn him into Taysom

457
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 6: Hill and and if you want to throw a Day

458
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 6: three pick on him, I'd be fine with that. But

459
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 6: I mean, that's a that's a big project, that's that's

460
00:21:59,320 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 6: way down.

461
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 3: The road, a year away from being a year away,

462
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: you know, right.

463
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Speaker 2: Alan Saunders with us here on the Drive on Steelers

464
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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. Alan, as I

465
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: mentioned at the start, you've kind of been on this

466
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 2: world tour. You've been in Texas and Alabama and California,

467
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: you've been everywhere. Man at the Super Bowl Sunday night,

468
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 2: of course, as the Seahawks capture Super Bowl sixty over

469
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots, just you paint the picture a

470
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 2: little bit for us what it was like there. Looked

471
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 2: like fun, good weather, nice environment out in California. And

472
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 2: then of course just kind of your biggest takeaways from

473
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 2: Seattle Super Bowl triumph.

474
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, the weather was fantastic. Was actually hot, just like

475
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 4: seventy two degrees, and I.

476
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 6: Was wearing a sport coat fun and I was like, man,

477
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 6: I've slipped a little bit here, but the weather was beautiful.

478
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 6: Tough venue to host the Super Bowl, being very far

479
00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 6: from San Francisco, but I love the stadium itself. It's

480
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 6: real tight footprint, real like high vertical stands, every geary

481
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 6: feels like you're on top of the game. It was

482
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 6: my first time there, so I really enjoyed that part

483
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 6: of it.

484
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 4: And man, I don't know. I saw a lot of

485
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 4: people complaining on social.

486
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 6: Media about this game, and I'm like, I don't know, man,

487
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 6: that was an absolute defensive takedown of a guy who.

488
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 4: Was two votes or three votes away from being MVP.

489
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 6: I mean, I was having a blast watching that Seattle

490
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 6: defense just absolutely demolished New England. I thought it was

491
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 6: an all time great performance, especially from a unit that

492
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 6: just does not.

493
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: Have standout stars.

494
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 6: I mean, Witherspoon is a really good player, but they

495
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 6: didn't have a guy in the top five.

496
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 4: Defensive Player of the Year voting.

497
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 6: And that's one of the best defensive performances I can

498
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Speaker 6: remember at the Super Bowl.

499
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 4: I thought it was great watch.

500
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 6: I understand the people at home maybe didn't necessarily agree

501
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 6: with that, but I was moved by it.

502
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Speaker 3: Helen, I don't know how much work you've done on it,

503
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: and I assume you're on top of it. But Wes

504
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 3: and I are going to talk Steeler cap casualties in

505
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: the second hour. Could you see Ramsey or Queen being

506
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 3: in jeopardy?

507
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 6: Probably not purely from a salary cap standpoint, but it

508
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 6: is the last year of Queen's deal going into it.

509
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 6: Ramsey has no more guaranteed money after this year on

510
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 6: his deal, and relatively little at that. So for me,

511
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 6: both of those are guys you got to have a

512
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 6: conversation with this offseason if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers, And

513
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 6: depending on how those conversations go, I think deciding.

514
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 4: To move on could be prudent.

515
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 6: You're not making enough in cap space for letting either

516
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 6: of those guys go to feel good about going back

517
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 6: into free agency and signing a better replacement.

518
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not a it's not someone waiting in the ways,

519
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: not a third round pick that's just bursting to get

520
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 3: on the field either.

521
00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

522
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 6: I mean they don't even a corner and safety whichever

523
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 6: you want to consider Ramsey, I mean they have some

524
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 6: work to do in free agency. It's it's Border and

525
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 6: Eccles and sebassing Castro.

526
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,959
Speaker 4: I mean, I think those are the other guys that

527
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 4: they have right now. So yeah, I don't I don't

528
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 4: see it. And they have a ton of cab space.

529
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: What what's the cab going.

530
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 6: They would need to be making that they'd be wanting

531
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 6: to cut guys just from a salary cap standpoint. But

532
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 6: if you go into a conversation with the guy about

533
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 6: his future and his contract and you say, hey, we

534
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 6: want to be here, they want to be way over here.

535
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 6: This is probably not going to work out long term.

536
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 6: Maybe you decide to make move. But I think from

537
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 6: a pure cab standpoint, I'm a little skeptical.

538
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 3: Do you think Pierre is someone Tho'll actively try to

539
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 3: bring back? That would be my first call.

540
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 4: I would be trying to bring back Pierre and Samuel.

541
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 4: I don't think you don't have enough corners.

542
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 6: But you know, it's the new coaching staff, so I mean,

543
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 6: they're gonna have different opinions about these guys.

544
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 4: They're not going to see the same things.

545
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 6: Joe Witt is coming in to run the secondary. It's

546
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 6: gonna be a very different, schematically looking secondary.

547
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 4: So I don't know how much Cover three you're gonna see.

548
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: And if if that's the case, is James Pierre as

549
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 4: valuable to you as he was.

550
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 6: Before, I don't know, it might be a different preference.

551
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, I think both of those guys

552
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 6: are good enough to be a starting corner opposite Joey

553
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 6: Porter Junior. That's fine with me.

554
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 4: But I don't know, it could be a different direction.

555
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but and I haven't given

556
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 3: this enough thought, but I'm having a harder time projecting

557
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: scheme fits for additions to the roster on defense than

558
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: I am offense. And part of that's just because Patrick

559
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: Graham such a chameleon with his schemes. Yeah, I mean,

560
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly once you know, Yeah.

561
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 6: I mean I feel good about they're gonna stay in

562
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 6: the three four, you know, base, I feel good about that.

563
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 6: And you can kind of look at most of what

564
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 6: he's done and the sort of Belichick Tree stuff filtered

565
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 6: through Flores who's been here, and there was already some

566
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 6: of that around, and I think I can kind of

567
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 6: get a good idea of what to expect from the

568
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 6: front seven perspective. Secondary is a total wild card for

569
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 6: me because Graham has done it several different ways. Witt

570
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 6: has done it a couple different ways, and then you

571
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 6: have this personnel that was running, you know, different stuff.

572
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 6: But the the basic idea of the defense was it

573
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 6: was a cover three defense. And now I really have

574
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 6: no idea what kind of coverage they want to run

575
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 6: to try to pick secondary guys that fit it.

576
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 2: It's a fun kind of whole new world for us

577
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 2: all here this offseason, certainly alan last one for you

578
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: to kind of circle back to a big picture topic here.

579
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: There was a lot of debate, a lot of rage,

580
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: a lot of anger in some NFL Hall of Fame

581
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: conversations and discussions over the last couple of weeks. Put

582
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: on your or grab your crystal ball for us a

583
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: year from now or I guess maybe fifty one weeks

584
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: from now. Are we all going to be happy because

585
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: Benjamin Todd Roethlisberger is going to be a first ballot

586
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer? Are we all going to be kicking

587
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: and screaming and they're going to do some nonsense and

588
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: try and get Eli in there. And make Ben. Wait,

589
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: you think Ben is going to be a first ballot

590
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: guy in twenty seven?

591
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 4: Man, that's become a tough thing to predict.

592
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 6: I would have told you three weeks ago that I

593
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 6: was pretty sure Bill.

594
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: Belichick was getting in. Yeah, that's for sure.

595
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 6: I do think the process is a little more sensical

596
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 6: when it comes to the modern era guys. I feel

597
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 6: a little bit better about that. I think he should

598
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 6: be in.

599
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 4: I don't see a reason in this class.

600
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 6: There's not a player out there that I would think, Hey,

601
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 6: this guy's got to go in ahead of him. Certainly

602
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 6: there are other I think first ballot types, but I

603
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 6: think there's room for Ben Roethlisberger there.

604
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 4: I think Eli Manning's Hall of Famer too.

605
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 6: I hate that the rules and the voting have gotten

606
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 6: more restrictive. I've always felt like the Pro Football Hall

607
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 6: of Fame, because it started so late into the NFL,

608
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 6: has just had this big backlog of guys that are

609
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 6: are very very representative of what a Hall of Fame

610
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 6: resume looks like that haven't been able to get in.

611
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 6: Guys who were very obvious Hall of famers have had

612
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 6: to wait years and years to get in. I don't

613
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 6: really see who that benefits. I hope the Hall of

614
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 6: Fame changes the process. I hope the outrage over Belichick

615
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 6: forces them to change the process, and maybe we'll.

616
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: Get an eight or nine player class again.

617
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 6: And if that happens, then I think it's one hundred

618
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 6: percent Ben Roethlisberger's.

619
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Speaker 3: How about ab.

620
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 4: No, I.

621
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 6: Don't think that you're gonna get guys. I think his

622
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 6: resume is interesting.

623
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: I think he's a yes for me. I'm not saying

624
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: he's gonna go next year.

625
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 6: I don't think they're gonna get guys who covered him

626
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 6: contemporarily to ever vote him in. I think if he

627
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 6: gets in eventually, it will be because somebody ten fifteen

628
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 6: years down the line lines up his statistics and says, hey,

629
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 6: this guy's worthy.

630
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

631
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 6: You know, they talked about with Too, about hey, you

632
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 6: know he was.

633
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 4: A locker room problem, and that's why they made him

634
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 4: wait a year.

635
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 6: Well, if t O was a locker room problem, what

636
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 6: the heck was Antonio Brown? I mean, there's a whole

637
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 6: different category of locker room problem there, including right up

638
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 6: until quitting in the middle of a game.

639
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 4: And so the stats are there, certainly, But.

640
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 6: I think it's it's probably something that's down the road

641
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 6: for him.

642
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: If at all.

643
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of down the road, Alan, thank you for

644
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: taking the time, and hopefully we'll catch up with you

645
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 2: down the road here in a couple of weeks at

646
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: the combine. Maybe we'll run this little trio back here

647
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: on Radio Row in a couple of weeks. Thank you

648
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: for taking the time as always, partner, and hopefully you're

649
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: getting recalibrated from your last few weekends on the road.

650
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: Thank you taking a couple of weeks laying low, and

651
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 4: then we'll see an Indy.

652
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: Sounds good little combine, talk in some shrimp cocktail with

653
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: our buddy, Allen Saunders. Sign take care dude, we'll talk

654
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: to you soon. Thank you. There he goes Alan Saunders Steelers.

655
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: Now make sure you're checking out all his coverage as

656
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: we get into the combine and off season. Great stuff

657
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: with Alan as always, Thanks to him for taking the time.

658
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: We're overdue for a break and we come back on

659
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: the other side. Off season approach for the Steelers at quarterback.

660
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: Let's kind of piggyback off of some of that Aaron

661
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: Rodgers conversation and see what some of those other routes

662
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Speaker 2: might even be if that's not the path that the

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Speaker 2: Steelers want to travel, or that Aaron Rodgers ends up

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Speaker 2: taking off the table. We'll do that to close down

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Speaker 2: our number one when we return Well Shooler Matt Williams,

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Speaker 2: and it's the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your two weeks about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Closing down the first hour of the program here. Thanks

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Speaker 2: to Allan Saunders for joining us. That'll be fun. I'm

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00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: now I'm kind of thinking about the calm.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: Thirteen days from now we'll be in Indianapolis. Two weeks

675
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Speaker 2: from right now will be on air on Radio Row.

676
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: They're my favorite weeks of the year.

677
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: Same here. I really enjoy it. It's it's always like

678
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: by the end of the week, I am always ready

679
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: to get home. But it's kind of the same. It's

680
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: kind of the same as training camp in that regard.

681
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: At the start, the first few days it's awesome, and

682
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: then you're like, all right, let's get let's get let's.

683
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: Get ride here a lot longer than the ride there. Absolutely,

684
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: you're tired, little beat up.

685
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: And you know, we do a little staying out late

686
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: and hooting and hollering in downtown Indianapolis. But I'm very

687
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: excited for all the people We're going to be able

688
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: to nab for interviews like we always do. That's the

689
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: best part is I.

690
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: Had a conversation today about some interviews and stuff like that.

691
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, we're gonna get a million good ones.

692
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: You know, it'll be great. Yes, and Pursuita is going

693
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: to be there this year, which is a new spin

694
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Speaker 3: and you know.

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00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: Which will be a lot which will be a lot

696
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: of fun. Have it have an old Mike Persuda, He'll

697
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: probably he'll just want to talk about all the Michigan

698
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: state prospects and you know his boy Kenneth Walker here

699
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: the whole time.

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00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, Starks will be talking Gators.

701
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: It'll be you know what, no Max this year? Oh

702
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: really Yeah, I just just found that out. I still

703
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: don't know exactly what the rotation looks like, but it'll

704
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 2: be you and I, Rob King, Mike Persuda, and then

705
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: I think do Lac is with us as well, So

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00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: that'll be the five.

707
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: No greatly influting the Max factor greatly influences the nightlife

708
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Speaker 3: concerned what we order.

709
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, we'll be ordering way less food

710
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: without Max. But we'll also be able to get around

711
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: much easier because anywhere you cannot go anywhere Max Starks.

712
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: Every time he gets stopped, I just keep walking because

713
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: we can't both be late. The radio row run.

714
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: Between his time with the Steelers, the Chargers and the

715
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: Cardinals and then his Florida Gators years and now working

716
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: for ESPN Radio and and all the the combine is

717
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 2: like Max Starks is the mayor of Indianapolis for that week.

718
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: You can't walk anywhere with Max for three minutes without

719
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: him seeing somebody he played with or coached with, or

720
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: it's it's hilarious.

721
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Speaker 3: I mean even if you or I were that popular,

722
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: maybe we could put our head down or put a

723
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: hoodie up and walk her out nobody.

724
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, still as big as he didn't do the Alan

725
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: Fanica or Marque's plage, well it is not he does not.

726
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: Matt jumping back into this quarterback off season approach conversation.

727
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to run by you along with the Steelers

728
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: and you could tell me yes or no, and and

729
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, if you think it's just kind of where

730
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: they're at in the conversation. Yeah, teams that will also

731
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: be in the quarterback market as well.

732
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: Might be more than you think.

733
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Speaker 2: What about the Atlanta Falcons.

734
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: So I actually did some my show today on my

735
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: podcast about quarterback stuff and a lot of based off

736
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: been Solax article, which I urge everyone to check out.

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00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm kind of using that as a record.

738
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 4: It's good.

739
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: It's a good, well done piece, and he's one of

740
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: their best writers. I think Atlanta and Minnesota are really

741
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: similar in that their quarterbacks the exact same draft class,

742
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: highly unproven. Cousins is well. I don't know that Cousins

743
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 3: won't be back, but Cousins was going to get released,

744
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: and I think both those teams are going to be

745
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: looking for like a Cousins type.

746
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: Guy standpoint.

747
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: Cheap interesting, right, So because Penix is also coming off

748
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 3: an injury, so I don't think either one of those teams,

749
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: especially when you look at the injury factor with Penix,

750
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: you can't just be like McCarthy's our guy, Penick's our guy.

751
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: I think he needs somebody, I forget how I phrased

752
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: it today, someone that's not overly threatening, but it's sort

753
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: of threatening, like a Cousin's or if Derek Carr comes back,

754
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: you know, a guy like that, that's okay, this isn't

755
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: your job forever. But if this guy falls, we want

756
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: our young guy to beat you out. But but.

757
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: Right, Colts, is it as simple as resigning Daniel Jones

758
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: riding out the start of the year with Riley Leonard.

759
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 3: Maybe like a Mariota, like somebody that's like eight million

760
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: a year, you know, just to get you through that

761
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: first month.

762
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: It's dependable but not threatening.

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00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe Leonard did enough behind the scenes in a

764
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: Will Howard way, but also got to play that. They

765
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: might be like, we think Jones will be back by

766
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: week three, we'll use Leonard like crazy in the preseason

767
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: and go and not invest another one. I could understand

768
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 3: that hand at the Taylor a lot for the first

769
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Speaker 3: month or whatever, that's possible, But I think Jones definitely

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Speaker 3: as a cult Yeah.

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00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: Same.

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00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: What about the Jets.

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00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: I agree with Ben here something I've been saying for

774
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: a while. I think that's a very likely Kyler Lane

775
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: spot because they have a lot of picks in a

776
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 3: lot of cap space.

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00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: And he would kind of fit in with the parts

778
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: that they have in that quarterback room already, you would

779
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: have all right shoes. You know, you wouldn't be thrown

780
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 2: in a left shoe with a couple of right shoes.

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00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: They got a lot of cap space. They don't have

782
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: a lot of guys they have to invest in, so

783
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: they could eat a little bit, take the roll the dice.

784
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: But then again, you know they're not Frankly an organization

785
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: that I often agree with. They could use that second

786
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: pick on a guy, or fall in love with Chambliss,

787
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 3: or do the Jackson Dart move where you move back

788
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: in the first round from the early second to grab

789
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 3: Chambliss or Simpson or somebody like that and understand it,

790
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: you know, especially if you had already had landed two

791
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: first round picks to begin with Reese in a yeah,

792
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: you know, safety or something.

793
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, all right, let's talk about some of the

794
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: big names. The Kyler, Murray's, the Maliki.

795
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: Definitely think Murray moves.

796
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: I would be shocked if he's in Arizona. Yeah, you know, come, I.

797
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: Don't think July or I don't think Tua or Kyler

798
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: will be with their teams.

799
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 2: I you know what they say happens when you assume.

800
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: But I'm starting to think that those are both fair assumptions.

801
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 3: Yes, Now Tua screams to me, I need a better

802
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 3: name for it. But like these incubators, you know, like.

803
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: MATC.

804
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 3: Jones went and sat behind Purdy in a great offensive system,

805
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: like Jameis Winston did it with Sean Payton, with Baker Mayfield.

806
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: Darnold did it behind Stafford with the Rams. You know,

807
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 3: like the highly talented early pick things have gotten off

808
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: the rails. Go to a great organization where you're not

809
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: even close to threatening the starter QB friendly, Yeah, incubator,

810
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, just go rehabilitate your reputation, get

811
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: a better guy coaching.

812
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: You, your own mental confidence and everything.

813
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: Don't take any hits, Go be Stafford's back for a

814
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: year on a cheap deal. Take less to do it

815
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: and say thank you. You know what I mean, because

816
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: you're hanging out with McVeigh for the year. I think

817
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: that's what Tua is. I think Kyler somebody starter okay, yeah.

818
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: Or even like a Vikings with McCarthy type situation or

819
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: not starter.

820
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

821
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: I think he's more like Jets or Dolphins starter that

822
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 3: can't get a guy this year, but maybe they catch

823
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 3: lightning in a bottle Browns or.

824
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: You know, Browns would be an interesting one, although they'd

825
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 2: have to do something about that contract because they already

826
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: have the most expensive And then obviously Matt the and

827
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna think.

828
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: You mentioned Willis. I think Willis will be one to

829
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: thirty two.

830
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call him the big ticket item in terms

831
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: of this conversation, the biggest he is. But yeah, you're

832
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: kind of grading on a curve there, but he is

833
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: the biggest ticket item. Only twenty six years old, only

834
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: six career starts, three with the Titans, three with the

835
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 2: Packers in his four year career.

836
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 3: First we were terrible, last three were really good.

837
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think he starts. The question to

838
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: me becomes though, like how much money you want to

839
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: give him?

840
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: I think Ben really set the money. Still, are you

841
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: looking at the article?

842
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: I do have the article up in front of me here.

843
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: Yes, the way he laid out the contract, he started

844
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 3: with the Fields contract from a year ago from the Jets,

845
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 3: and he and I agree that's too low because I

846
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: think he's more desirable than Fields was leaving the Steelers.

847
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: Plus there's an inflation factor. Plus there's fewer quarterbacks.

848
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: To supply supplying demand fact.

849
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: But I think that the way that he lays out

850
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: that contract and you can read it or whatever, I

851
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: think is about right, maybe a smidge low.

852
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: Okay, he has him between twenty and thirty three million

853
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: dollars per year.

854
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: Which sounds insane to people like this guy's played six games.

855
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,479
Speaker 2: Cap goes up all the time, goes up all the time.

856
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: He's not going to demand that the massive chunk of

857
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: that be guaranteed. I don't think. And even if it was,

858
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: you could probably get that guarantee off front left.

859
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you can get around these things.

860
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: I mean that I'm with you. I think that Malik

861
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: Willis will definitely be a starter in September week one.

862
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: The question is is it somewhere like in Arizona where

863
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray's gone and it's clearly his job, Miami where

864
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: Tua is gone and.

865
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: It's clearly Cleveland, Miami, Arizona three that make a lot

866
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 3: of sense.

867
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: But even a Cleveland, though maybe the Jets, would Cleveland

868
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: be his clear cut of like, hey, this is your

869
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: starting job, or would it be like you still got

870
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 2: to go toe to toe with Shadoor pro bowler Sanders.

871
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 3: That's a good question. But to me, if you're the Steelers,

872
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: you're waymark. They're like the four worst jobs in the world. Yeah, Jets, Brown's, Cardinals,

873
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: and Dolphins.

874
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 4: Yes.

875
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe those guys will give them too much,

876
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: as they often do, but they'd have to give them

877
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: a lot more for me to say yes. If I'm

878
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: Willis to say no to the Steelers, I mean unless

879
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 3: Rogers is here. If Rogers here, then I'm sorry. I'm

880
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Start so oh absolutelybsolutely. We got like a minute left here, Matt,

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna throw some names at you. Let's say

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers informs the Steelers he's retiring, he's not coming back, whatever.

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Speaker 2: A which of these names or maybe none, because Malik

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Speaker 2: Willis would obviously be a yes, but Kirk Cousins, will Levis,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe, Tanner McKee, Anthony Richardson, Derek Carr. I mean,

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Speaker 2: would you be interested in any of these guys?

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Speaker 3: Car and Cousins are the same. I'd prefer Cousins slightly

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Speaker 3: because at least he plays the last player, but they're

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Speaker 3: both immobile and they're.

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Speaker 2: You'd rather dip into the day two quarterback market of

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Speaker 2: the draft than go any of those routes, you.

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Speaker 3: Gotta at least take somebody with more upside and as

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Speaker 3: opposed to maybe I can win three more games with

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Speaker 3: those guys. I don't think it's a Steeler fit because

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Speaker 3: there's only really three spots here. If I was a team,

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Speaker 3: I'd throw a six round pick at Anthony Richardson. I

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Speaker 3: mean he was I mean, you go two. I think

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Speaker 3: he's gonna move. I mean so what I mean like

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Speaker 3: it could be Trey Lance and he ends up fiddling out.

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Speaker 3: Who cares? But I mean I would throw a pick

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Speaker 3: at him. The most interesting one, and it's a longer

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Speaker 3: conversation we have time for, is mac Jones. I don't

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Speaker 3: love him. I think he's a bit of a product

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Speaker 3: of the system. But I know that I sell him short.

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Speaker 3: I think he's better than that. He probably cost you

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Speaker 3: a third. Maybe they'd probably ask for a second. He would.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the best thirty two walk in the planet. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I don't want to settle and be in quarterback

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Speaker 3: purgatory with.

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Speaker 2: The I don't want to be in the mushy middle.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be the nineteenth best quarterback for

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Speaker 3: the next five years and give up a third round

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Speaker 3: pick to do it, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, exactly right.

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Speaker 3: But he's good and I do believe he's good.

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Speaker 2: Might be something there. Yeah, Yeah, it's interesting. We will

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Speaker 2: be having this conversation plenty more, I'm sure we'll have.

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Speaker 2: We'll run these back with some of our guests at

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Speaker 2: the combine, and once free agency hits, we'll be all

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Speaker 2: over where all these quarterbacks are moving. But when we

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Speaker 2: come back to start Hour number two, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be cut candidate hour. On the show. We're going to

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Speaker 2: go around the NFL with some of the bigger names.

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Speaker 2: We'll go specific to the Steelers and kind of intertwine

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Speaker 2: those two topics and Hour number two as well as

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Speaker 2: getting to some of your tweets. So make sure you're

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Speaker 2: getting at us at Wesley Yuler at Williamson, NFL on

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Speaker 2: the ex Twitter as always Hour in the books, another

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Speaker 2: hour ago, halfway home here on the drive on this Tuesday,

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