1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast is presented by win Bet Betting. He's 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: a team sport, but together it went by Eric Allen 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: here at One Jets Drive. I'm honored to be joined 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: on the official podcast by Hall of Fame NFL head 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: coach Tony Dongee, TD, of course, is going to be 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: working the broadcast this weekend. It's Sunday Night football Chiefs 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: and Jets at MetLife Stadium. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Coach, thank you so much for joining us. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: Well, Eric, it's going to be with you. 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 4: We're excited to have this game Sunday night and looking 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 4: forward to it. 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: So what do you make of the Jets season to dates? 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 4: It reminds me now you were with us in Tampa. 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 4: It reminds me of a little bit before you got there. 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 4: Our nineteen ninety nine season. Trent Dilfer was our quarterback. 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 4: He ended up getting hurt. We were struggling and back 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 4: and forth. We ended up going to a rookie Sean King, 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: and we went to the NFC Championship game. Basically by saying, 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 4: you know what, We're going to run the ball and 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 4: play great defense and our quarterback will make plays when needed. 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: And I think the Jets can do the same things. 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: Zach Wilson is experienced, he's been in the league. I 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: think he can make plays for them. But they really 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 4: have to become a ball control, defensive mind the team. 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: And they've got the talent to do it. 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 4: They've got two really good backs, they've got a great defense, 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 4: and I think it just has to become a mindset 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 4: right now. 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: As someone who covers the game from a national perspective, Now, 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: when you saw what happened Aaron Rodgers on Monday Night 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: Football September eleven's what went through your mind. 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 4: It was tough, It was said I. Actually we had 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame game, so I got to talk 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: to a lot of the players, got to talk to Aaron. 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 4: Everybody's excited. All the coaches were telling me about the 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 4: things that they were doing and what they could now 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: do with this veteran quarterback. So I had these high hopes. 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 4: But what I thought about immediately was just that's what 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 4: we're talking about. Okay, Now you've got to shift. You've 40 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 4: got to shift your mindset. It can still be done, 41 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: but you have to adjust the team expectations. And I 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: think that the Jets are in the process of doing that. 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 4: What type of team are we going to become. This 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 4: isn't going to be Aaron Rodgers' team just now. This 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 4: is Zach Wilson's team. How can we do things to 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: benefit him. 47 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: How do you get the run game going when defenses 48 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: know that you're undergoing this transition and you do want 49 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: to get that run game going to help your young quarterback. 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: That's all right, it's a mentality. 51 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: And yes, if you approach it that way and they 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 4: start stacking the box and everybody comes in New England 53 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 4: came in that way, we're going to take away the run. Well, 54 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 4: now you've got enough weapons on the outside. You've got 55 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: to Garrett Wilson that, Hey, if you're constantly going to 56 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 4: play me man the man, I can take some shots 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 4: and make you pay. But I think that has to 58 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: be your mentality. We're going to make people take it away, 59 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 4: make them defend the run, and then go to our 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 4: passing game. 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: How important is confidence at the quarterback position? That is 62 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: a term that's thrown out a lot. But when you're 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: talking about Zach Wilson specifically, you mentioned Sean King back 64 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: in the day. I remember two thousand, my first year 65 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. You just cited nineteen ninety nine. Well, 66 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 1: Sewn didn't put up great numbers, but he was ten 67 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: and six as a starter, and he was completing less 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: than sixty percent of his passes. I think he had 69 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: eighteen touchdowns in thirteen interceptions. I think if the Jets 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: got that kind of production from Wilson to win a 71 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: number of games. 72 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 4: Well that's the thing, and you hit on it right there. 73 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: Sean was very confident even though he was a rookie. 74 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: He went in and played like a veteran because he 75 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: felt good about it. And what he realized was, I 76 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 4: don't have to be perfect. I don't have to be 77 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. I can make a couple of mistakes and 78 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: that's going to be okay. What I have to do 79 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: is not put us in bad position. He played with 80 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: a lot of swagger even though he didn't put up 81 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: great numbers, and I think that's what Zach Wilson. 82 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: Has to do. 83 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: Hey, I've got Breeze Hall, I've got Dalvin Cook, I've 84 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: got Garrett Wilson, I've got weapons. I've got this deetmand 85 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: that can put me on their backs. 86 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 3: So you know what I can. 87 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 4: I can feel great out there and I can just 88 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 4: go out and play and be myself. 89 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: And I think that's what Zach needs to do. 90 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: Uh TD, how do you balance playing free but also 91 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: playing turnover free football? Because that's something to Robert Sala 92 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: mentioned this week that he was happy that he didn't 93 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: make the mistake, but how do you go out there 94 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: and say, hey, listen, I just want to play free, 95 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: but at the same time, I got to protect the ball. 96 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 4: You have to know that there are times when you 97 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: can take chances. There are situations where okay, that's going 98 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: to be okay, but there are times when I just 99 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 4: have to go and make sure that I'm taking care 100 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: of business and taking care. 101 00:04:58,760 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: Of the ball. 102 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 4: I went through that with Peyton Manning when I got 103 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 4: to Indianapolis. Peyton was used to this explosive offense and hey, 104 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: you know, we'll make our plays and sometimes we'll turn 105 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 4: it over. 106 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: And I said, we're going to get this. 107 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 4: Defense so we don't have to feel that way. And 108 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: it took Peyton a little while to grasp that. I 109 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 4: got there in two thousand and two, and it wasn't 110 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 4: until two thousand and four that it really came through them. 111 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 4: But two thousand and four, if you remember, for him, 112 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 4: was forty nine touchdowns and nine interception, so he got 113 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: the feel of it when to take a chance, when 114 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 4: to be explosive, but still with the mindset if we 115 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 4: protect the ball, we're going to win games. 116 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: Do you like what Aaron said yesterday in terms of hey, listen, 117 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: the young guys on the sideline, you got to keep 118 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: your control, maintain your poise. We don't need that kind 119 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: of stuff. And I'm sure, like a lot of people 120 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: are asking, hey, Aaron's talking about that publicly. I'm sure 121 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: just knowing him and what others have said about him 122 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: and the building, is that's a message that he's gotten 123 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: to them privately, well before he talked to Pat Mack 124 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: for you about it. 125 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: No question about that. 126 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 4: He's not going to say that on national TV or 127 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 4: radio without saying it in the meeting room. And I 128 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: think what he was doing was trying to reinforce his message, 129 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 4: Hey guys, I told you this privately, but now it's 130 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: out there for everybody. 131 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 3: So now if anybody. 132 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: Sees these explosions or this lack of composure on the sideline, 133 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: they're going to know this is not what we're all about. 134 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: So I think it was a dual message and I 135 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 4: think it was really good. 136 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: What have you thought about Robert sala I mean you've 137 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: covered him, you talk to him in Ohio of course, 138 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: at the Hall of Fame game, like you talking about 139 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: and also maybe can you speak to the challenge at 140 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: hand for him? 141 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: Well, it is a challenge right now because everybody is 142 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: going to say we need to change quarterbacks, we need 143 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 4: to do X, Y and Z, And what he is 144 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 4: doing is saying, no, I'm in charge. I know I'm 145 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 4: the captain of this ship, and I know what is 146 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: going to make this ship, and we're not going to 147 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 4: worry about the outside noise. And I admire him for that. 148 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 4: I remember going back to my tenure. Our first playoff 149 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: yere in Tampa, Michael Houston was our kicker. His mom 150 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: was battling some serious health problems, battling cancer, and I 151 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: remember telling the team, I don't care if he misses 152 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: every kick. Michael is going to be our kicker. If 153 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 4: he misses defense, you got to go out there and 154 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: get the ball back. And it kind of bonded us 155 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: as a group. And the fans were down on Michael, 156 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: and our group said, hey, we're going to back him. 157 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: And I think that's what Robert is doing with this 158 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: quarterback situation. Hey, we know our team, we know who 159 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: we are, and we're gonna be together on this and 160 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 4: in the long run, that bonding is going to maybe 161 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: just really be the thing that takes the Jets over 162 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: the top. 163 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: Big picture, the Jets are one and two. Although if 164 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: you read the back pages here, you go on social media, 165 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: it feels like the season is over. We're on to 166 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. How do you keep the big pitcher 167 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: in sight and stay in the moment. 168 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: That's what you have to do. 169 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 4: Just telling people on the team, Hey, we've got fourteen 170 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: games left to play. 171 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: Okay, We've got. 172 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: A long season in front of us, and what we 173 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: do from here on out that's going to determine the season. 174 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: Not what the first three games that happened, not what 175 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 4: people think, not what they're writing about. We will determine 176 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: it on the field. So let's make sure we do that. 177 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: And again, I've been on plenty of teams that nineteen 178 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: ninety nineteen was three and four and people wrote us 179 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: all our Super Bowl team that we won in Indianapolis. 180 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 4: We lost the game in December to Jacksonville forty one 181 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: to seventeen, and everybody wrote, Oh, it's over for the Colts. 182 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 3: They're done. 183 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 4: Nobody has had a game like this. They can't stop 184 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: the run, they can't do this, they can't do that. 185 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: Six weeks later, we're holding the Lombardi Trophy because we 186 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 4: believe in what we were doing in the locker room. 187 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 4: And I think that's got to be coach solid the message. 188 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 4: We believe in ourselves. Don't worry if not another person 189 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 4: outside believes in us. 190 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: You are a member of the media right now, used 191 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: to coach in the National Football League. 192 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: You played for Chuck Nole. 193 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: How unique is the coverage the Jets specifically are getting 194 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: this year considering a Hall of Fame quarterback signs with them, 195 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: is traded a couple of minutes, a couple of days 196 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: before the draft comes over here, All the cameras are 197 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,359 Speaker 1: here throughout the summer. Hard knocks from a national perspective 198 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: in how they continue to watch the Jets. 199 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen anything like it before? 200 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: I really haven't. 201 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 4: New York is unique in and of itself. You've got 202 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: all of this coverage just because you're a New York team. 203 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 4: Now you add this Hall of Fame quarterback iconic figure 204 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: and even more people. The expectations are through the roof, 205 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 4: so you do have to deal with that. But the 206 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 4: bottom line is you win games Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, practice, Saturday, preparation. 207 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 4: You win games by functioning on the field. And that's 208 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: that's got to be the message to the Jets. Hey, yes, 209 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: we've got exposure, we've got people with the microscopes out there, 210 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: but that doesn't matter. 211 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: How are we going to play? 212 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: And more than anything, how are we going to stick 213 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: together when everybody's attacking us? 214 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: You live this, what would your message be to a 215 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: very good defense as this offense experiences growing pains? Because 216 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: remember Nathaniel Hackett came in here, it was going to 217 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: be the system. He was working with Aaron Rodgers and 218 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: they had so much success together in Green Bay. But 219 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: not only does Rogers go down and Wilson takes over, 220 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: but you're doing some offensive line. Chafflin Breisee Hall was 221 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: on a pitch count to start the year. 222 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of balls up in there here. 223 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: Yes, and again I go back to our nineteen ninety 224 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 4: nine season. Our top two quarterbacks get hurt in Tampa. 225 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: We're gonna play Sean King, he's a rookies inexperience. I 226 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 4: went into the team meeting and I called out the defense. 227 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: I said, hey, you guys, we've got a lot of 228 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 4: money invested on defense. 229 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: You're going to have to win some games for us. 230 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 4: Offensively, we're going to lean on our running backs, so 231 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: we're going to run the ball and play defense, and 232 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: we're going to win that way. We held nine opponents 233 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: that year to ten points or less. 234 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: We ran the ball. 235 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 4: We were getting thirty five thirty seven minutes time of possession, 236 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: and we're winning games twelve to ten and six to three. 237 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 4: But that's how we won, and that's the That's if 238 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: I were coaching the Jets, that's exactly what I do. 239 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 4: I go in that defensive meeting room today Winnsday and say, 240 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: you guys have to win this game, and you're gonna 241 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: have to win some games for We're going to run 242 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 4: the ball, but we're going to count on you to 243 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 4: stop people. 244 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: That nineteen ninety nine team ended up facing the Saint 245 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: Louis Rams Natty Championship game. I think the final score 246 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: was a lot. 247 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 2: To say, six eleven. 248 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: The defenders on that team, five years later, still feel 249 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 4: like we should have won the game six to five. 250 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 4: They blame themselves for giving up touchdown to lose the game. 251 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: Greatest show on Turf. They held them to five points 252 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 4: for fifty eight minutes, and that's the way. 253 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: You have to have that mindset and. 254 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: You play them inside the dome. Yeah, that's right. 255 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you about the personnel the 256 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: Jets are thrown at you from a defensive perspective. When 257 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: you start with Quinn Williams in the middle, you have 258 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: a number of different defensive linemen who have different character traits, 259 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: physical skill sets. You got those corners on the outside 260 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: with Sauce Gardner, DJ Reid, you got some very good 261 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: linebackers in the middle. 262 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: CJ. 263 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: Moseley, Quincy Williams and company. What do you think about 264 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: this Jets defense and what is their next step? 265 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 4: I love what they have they and again I going 266 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: back to our team. They've got the warrant set, personality 267 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 4: and player in the middle. They've got fast linebackers, they've 268 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 4: got cover people who can really take advantage of the 269 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 4: pressure that they get. 270 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: So it becomes a mindset. 271 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 4: Now, Hey, we're good, but you know what, we have 272 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 4: to play great and we have to play great four 273 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 4: quarters every week. We can't have letdowns and that's got 274 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 4: to be their focus. But talent wise, they have the 275 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: ability to do it. 276 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: How do you go about taking away the football because 277 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: everybody talks about that's what elite defenses do. In the 278 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, we've been seeing at TD the 279 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys max protected. The Patriots were saying, Okay, we know 280 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: your defense is very good, but Mac Jones is going 281 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: to get rid of the ball. Twelve times he was 282 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: sacked by the Jets in twenty twenty two. Last week, 283 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: the Jets had a lot of pressures, but no secks. 284 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 4: No, And that does become a tough part of it 285 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: when your offense is not putting up big numbers, because 286 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 4: then people come in with a conservative game plan. 287 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: Well I don't. 288 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 4: The Chiefs may say I don't need thirty points this week. 289 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: Maybe I just need seventeen, and so I'm not going 290 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: to take as many chances, and so that has to 291 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: ramp you up on defense. You've got to figure out 292 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: different ways to. 293 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: Put pressure on people. 294 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 4: If they're going to throw the ball away quickly punt it, 295 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: that's okay. But when we get those opportunities stripping the football, 296 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: hustling to the ball. We've got to step our game up. 297 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: Even if people get conservative. 298 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: You would Sap in Tampa. What does a guy like 299 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: Quinn Williams do for your defense? Having that interior rush 300 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: against any quarterback, It. 301 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: Really helps you because the quarterback number one, it's in 302 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 4: his mind, I'm not going to have the ability to 303 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: step up. I'm gonna have to stay back in the pocket. 304 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to get rid of the ball quickly. 305 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: The defenders, the defensive backs can play tighter, they can 306 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: know that that ball is coming out on time. There's 307 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 4: not going to be many chances for double moves things 308 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: like that. And then just the I don't know, the 309 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 4: mindset that you have when you know you've got that 310 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 4: great anchor in there. It really helps that guy. Lawrence Taylor, 311 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: Warren Sap of Quinn Williams. They just do something for 312 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: the mentality of the entire defense. 313 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: You just recently celebrated Rendez Barber going into the NFL 314 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, as the Jets fans celebrated Derel Reeves. 315 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: They have a very good young cornerback here in Sauce Gardner. 316 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: This matchup. 317 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: Specifically, if you're the Jets and you're looking across the 318 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: way and you see Patrick Mahomes and Travis kelcey, do 319 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: you use Sauce's length to your advantage and maybe take 320 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: them off a receiver and put them over Kelsey. 321 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: At times, no, I think I leave him on the outside, 322 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: and I say, I'm not gonna worry about that outside receiver. 323 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: Now that's going to allow me to take my safeties. 324 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: My linebackers really focus on the middle of the field. 325 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: Take Kelsey away with the other guys and invite someone 326 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 4: on ones outside. They're probably not gonna throw it at Sauce. 327 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: So now I'm really inside conscious with the rest of 328 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 4: my defense. 329 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I love that the trick into containing Mahomes because 330 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna get his numbers, he's gonna make 331 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: his plays. But what do you have to do in 332 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: terms of Okay, he's not gonna dominate us here Sunday night. 333 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: I think it's really a controlled rush. You know you've 334 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: got quinnin inside. You know he's going to create pressure. 335 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: Mahomes is so dangerous when he steps away and steps 336 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: out of it. So to me, the key is your 337 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: defensive ends or your edge rushers. You can't just fly 338 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: up the field and give him lanes. You can't come 339 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 4: inside and let him go out. It's almost like a 340 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 4: squeeze trap rush. When he starts to scramble, that's when 341 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 4: we're going to get him, because to me, that's when 342 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: he's dangerous, creating time and giving those guys open spaces. 343 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 4: So controlled rush, keep him in the pocket. Yes, he's 344 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 4: going to throw the ball, make him throw it on time. 345 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: Side of the ball. 346 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: Easier said than don especially against this very improved Chiefs defense. 347 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: But how can the Jets find some kind of momentum offensively? 348 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: Because these first three games, coach, they have faced double 349 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 1: digit deficits, tough to play behind against anybody in the NFL. 350 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 4: It is, and again I would say, we've got to 351 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: trust our defense. They're gonna come up with some stops. 352 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 4: What we have to do is be protested and we've 353 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 4: got to run the football. We've got to make them 354 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: aggressively come after our running game. And then when they 355 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: do the good thing about the Chiefs, they're gonna play 356 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: bump and run on the outside, so they're gonna give 357 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 4: you some opportunities to go up the field. So Garrett Wilson, 358 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 4: you can't get impatient. I don't know when it's gonna be, 359 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 4: but when we get our shot to beat one on 360 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 4: one on the outside, you've got to be ready. But 361 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: until then, we've got to make them stop our running game. 362 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 4: And I would put it on the offensive line. Hey, 363 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: you've got to open some holes. We're gonna give these 364 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 4: backs a chance. And yes we're we're gonna run for four, 365 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: run for three. Now when it's third and three, we've 366 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 4: got to execute with a Chris exact passing game and 367 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 4: get those first down and you know what, we may 368 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 4: run it on third and three and get three more yards. 369 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 4: So we've got to be patient. We're gonna take the 370 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: clock down, we're gonna keep the ball on offense. We're 371 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 4: gonna make them frustrated. 372 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: What do you like most about Garrett Wilson. You've mentioned 373 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: him a couple of times. 374 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 4: Speed and quickness out of the break. It reminds me 375 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: of Marvin Harrison that way in and out of breaks fast, 376 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 4: and he has a sense that no matter where the 377 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 4: ball is, I can go get it. 378 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 3: And I just love that about him. 379 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: And Brice Hall as well. You keep on talking about 380 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: coming back to the run game. How much of a 381 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: factor can he be not only this week, but as 382 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: the season progresses. Because here's a guy coming off in 383 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: ac all injury. You figure that he's looked good already, 384 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: but the best is yet to come. 385 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 4: I think it will be. And you mentioned pitch count early. 386 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: I think he'll get extended playing time. Having Dalvin Cook 387 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: obviously helps him. He doesn't have to carry the whole load. 388 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 4: And again I would just say offensive line, with these 389 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 4: two backs, we've got to get each of these backs 390 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 4: eight hundred and fifty to one thousand yards. We've got 391 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 4: to be a two thousand yard rushing team and that's 392 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 4: how we're gonna win games. And they can do it. 393 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: These backs are talented. If you get them through the 394 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage enough, they're gonna break some things. So 395 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: the challenge is, hey, we've got to block the line 396 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 4: of scrimmage, get these backs to the secondary and two 397 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 4: or three times a game. If we can do that, 398 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: we're gonna win because we're gonna make big plays. 399 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 5: Jets fans, we're in our final push and the clock 400 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 5: is ticking. Win Bet is giving you a golden opportunity 401 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 5: to win. 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The best part, you get an entry for 410 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 5: every one hundred dollars you wager. 411 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: Coach, back in your playing days, what did Chuck Noll 412 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: tell you guys in the locker room when a man 413 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: went down, when you suffered a big. 414 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 4: Injury, you know, Eric, He told us two things, and 415 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 4: it were things I repeated to my team when I 416 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: became a head coach. 417 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: Number one. 418 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: He used to say, everyone on our team is important. 419 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: Everybody's got a job to do, but no one's indispensable. 420 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 4: So if we lose someone, yes it's gonna be tougher, 421 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 4: but we expect the other people to step up. That's 422 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 4: why we have fifty three men on the team and 423 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 4: that's really really important. You can overcome anything as long 424 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: as guys believe that. And then the second thing he 425 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: told us was that champions don't do extraordinary things. Champions 426 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 4: do the ordinary things better than everyone else. So, Okay, 427 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: we might be missing some ESPN highlight reel plays because 428 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 4: we're missing this particular player, but that's not gonna what 429 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: wins for us anyway. What wins is doing those little 430 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: things over and over and over and over again better 431 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 4: than our opponent. So that's what we felt when we 432 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 4: lost the key player. It didn't matter because we were 433 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 4: going to do the ordinary things better than the opponent, 434 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 4: and that's how we're going to win. 435 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: On a personal level, how much you enjoying Sunday Night Football, 436 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: you see, you feel like part of the family. 437 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: Every time we go home and we're done. 438 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: Working, we turn on Sunday Night Football and there's Tony 439 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: in the gang. 440 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: I love it. 441 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 4: I'm out with Rodney Harrison now, and so we kind 442 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 4: of feel like we're back with our roots, and we 443 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 4: do feel like, no matter what happened during the day, 444 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 4: we're the final game of Sunday and everybody's going to 445 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: tune in and see what's going on in our game, 446 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 4: and it's. 447 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: A good feeling. 448 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: We've got a great crew and we always get great games. 449 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: So it's exciting and it's been fun. 450 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: What do you think the atmosphere is going to be 451 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: like Sunday night. 452 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be restless. I think the 453 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 4: Jets fans are going to expect something. I think it's 454 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: really critical for the Jets to get off to a 455 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 4: good start. If they do, that fan base will rally 456 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 4: around them. They can't get off to a bad start. 457 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 4: I just think the first quarter is going to be really, 458 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: really important. 459 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: Well, coach, I'm gonna come over and say hello to 460 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: you Sunday night. It's so great catching up with you 461 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: once again. I started my career doing clips in Tampa 462 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: in two thousand. 463 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 3: I remember it well. I remember it well. 464 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: What a wonderful leader you were in our and it 465 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: was such an honor to be part of that organization 466 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: and get my start there and always been a fan 467 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: and you've made such an impact both on and off 468 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: the field. TD So this was awesome. 469 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 4: Thank you, This was fun catching up and I think 470 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: we're gonna have a great game. I know a lot 471 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 4: of people are gonna say, well, the Jets don't really 472 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 4: have a chance, but I think the styles, especially if 473 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 4: the Jets run the ball well early, this will be 474 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: a very very interesting game. 475 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: We'll see you Sunday, all right, See Eric