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Speaker 1: here with Seaton, Paulie, Fritzie mccleven and yours truly poll question,

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Speaker 1: play of the day, stat of the day, all of

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Speaker 1: that forthcoming. NFL sent a video to teams yesterday warning

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Speaker 1: them about taunting next season. I guess they're going to

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Speaker 1: enforce the rule a little more seriously than they have

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. It's a little bit

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Speaker 1: disappointing when you think about it, because I thought the

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Speaker 1: league had learned its lesson handing out personal fouls. Four

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Speaker 1: years ago. They decided to allow celebrations. Remember that they

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Speaker 1: took them away and then they brought them back, and

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Speaker 1: then they realized Oh yeah, there's a younger audience that

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Speaker 1: probably likes this, and we like a younger audience. But

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Speaker 1: the examples of taunting they sent out were hardly earth shattering. Basically,

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Speaker 1: guys just talking trash after a big play. Football players

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Speaker 1: are tough guys, right, they can take it. I know

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to be about the kids, but this is

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Speaker 1: where parents play a role. I get. I'm not looking

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Speaker 1: at an athlete to raise my child. Do I hope

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Speaker 1: that they perform in a way that they would be

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Speaker 1: a role model to somebody, Yes, but they're not raising

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Speaker 1: my children when it comes to hey, taunting, excessive taunting. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that as a parent I can have a

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Speaker 1: role in an opinion here instead of going, hey dad,

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Speaker 1: I saw this. I saw DeAndre Hopkins do this, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do it as well. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to the actual games, do we really need to find

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Speaker 1: ways for the officials to have more influence here, because

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Speaker 1: that's when it comes down to. For me, I just

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Speaker 1: don't want a big play, big game come down to

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fifteen yards penalty. Oh they're in field

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Speaker 1: goal range to win this playoff? Oh taunting, let's back

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Speaker 1: it up. Hopefully the reaction to this story reminds the

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Speaker 1: NFL that they were better off when they let players

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Speaker 1: be players be themselves. Here, we're gonna talk to Albert Breer.

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Speaker 1: He'll join us on loan from the Monday Morning Quarterback

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Speaker 1: get his thoughts on where did this come from. I

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Speaker 1: didn't I didn't hear an outcry where people said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm tired of this. We gotta take taunting

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Speaker 1: out of the game. The NFL reacts to what you

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Speaker 1: want the NFL to react to. Every year. It's something different, Right,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be kickoffs, it's gonna be extra points, field goals, goalpost,

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Speaker 1: you know where you can hit somebody. What's a fumble?

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Speaker 1: What's not a fumble? I don't know if anybody was upset.

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Speaker 1: Do you know anybody who said, as you know, they

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Speaker 1: better get around to fix on this taunting stuff? Like

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Speaker 1: Michael Irvin famously, when he would even catch a three

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Speaker 1: point towards first down. Is that taunting? If I look

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Speaker 1: at you as a taunting, if I say some magical words,

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Speaker 1: is it taunting? Are we going to have upon further review,

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Speaker 1: it's taunting. Are we going to review taunting plays? And

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Speaker 1: when the NFL said, hey, we're taking out celebrations, don't

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Speaker 1: you like, like, what are we doing? I can understand

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Speaker 1: it at a at a smaller level, younger level, I

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Speaker 1: get it. You know you're trying to install some kind

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Speaker 1: of sportsmanship, play hard. You know, it's not about making

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Speaker 1: fun of somebody else. I get it. These are grown men.

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Speaker 1: They get paid. I want excitement. I want somebody who

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Speaker 1: cares about it. I want a battle now. Do I

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Speaker 1: want stupid stuff? No? But it goes along with the territory.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to really pick and choose and go all right,

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Speaker 1: you scored a touchdown. Let's get the entire team in

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Speaker 1: front of the monitor and we'll all pose. Okay, we've

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Speaker 1: done that. I don't know what's next, and hopefully not

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Speaker 1: like a human sacrifice or anything. But for the most part,

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Speaker 1: I think we're okay with some of the celebrations here.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know who is clamoring for this, Like

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Speaker 1: you have got to get rid of this. The No

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Speaker 1: Fun League is back, Yes, poets. So after reading it,

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Speaker 1: it looks like players have to learn the look away taunt.

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Speaker 1: So you could flex on someone, but you got to

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Speaker 1: out the audience. Would you like the NFL to enforce

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Speaker 1: its taunting rule? More? Yes or no? I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how they do it. Do you think they

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Speaker 1: have Poe say leave it alone. If it bothers you,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to. I'd like to hear from you, like

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Speaker 1: I just tell me, because I don't want to. I'm

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Speaker 1: overreacting to it. Maybe I should be underreacting to it.

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Speaker 1: But to me, it's like, what are we doing? And

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Speaker 1: how do you police this? That's the hard part. You know,

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Speaker 1: a bat flip. I do want enthusiasm. I do want excitement.

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Speaker 1: I think the NFL got used to have, you know,

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Speaker 1: It was orchestrated. I understand that they wanted to cut

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Speaker 1: be okay. No, it's just like a old news that

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Speaker 1: Like that? To me was wow? That that surprised me. Yes,

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Speaker 1: That what made that more exciting was knowing the whole

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Speaker 1: And look at the way he's whipped and that ball

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Speaker 1: something to give Mike McCarthy a personality. How about we

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Speaker 1: do a movie that came out in two thousand and one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: known Dak and this first time we're giving each other

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Speaker 1: felt like it was scripted. You know, there's NFL films HBO.

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Speaker 1: There's a moment where Dan Quinn, the defensive coordinator, is

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Speaker 1: Parsons to say, hey, you know, what did you what

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Speaker 1: every tackle. That to me, was interesting, but it should be.

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Speaker 1: You have all of those cameras, all of that access,

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Speaker 1: and then if the Cowboys want something out, then they

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Speaker 1: can edit something else. But you should be getting great moments.

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Speaker 1: It just felt like they staged a couple of them

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Speaker 1: McCarthy with the what was the movie Austin pass Empowers? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: footage from four years ago when Layton Vanderesh was going

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Speaker 1: to uh redo it again? Yeah? Yes, Paul. It was

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Speaker 1: I'm out here every rap. I'm not injured anymore. I

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Speaker 1: I'm out here playing. It seemed like overcompensation. Oh sure,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but that's natural. They haven't played in a

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Speaker 1: we get to see just how good he is and

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Speaker 1: what that means for the possible future. If you're a

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Speaker 1: Packer fan and you see progress there, you might not

425
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Speaker 1: be holding on for your life to Aaron Rodgers. That

426
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Speaker 1: you might realize we do have something here, or oh

427
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Speaker 1: my god, we got to hold on to Aaron Rodgers.

428
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Speaker 1: Is there somebody who's more intriguing in the preseason than

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love and your Well, so think about this, Dan,

430
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Speaker 1: all right? So last year, no OTAs, no mini camp.

431
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Speaker 1: They get to training camp, and really every coach is

432
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Speaker 1: in the mode where we only have enough practice time

433
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Speaker 1: to get our starters ready. Right, backups don't really backup.

434
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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks don't really run the offense during the season. So

435
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Speaker 1: Jordan Love wasn't getting a lot of reps in the

436
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Speaker 1: summer because they're getting Aaron Rodgers ready, didn't wasn't able

437
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Speaker 1: to run the Packers offense much in the fall because

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Speaker 1: he's running the scout team. And then they get to

439
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Speaker 1: the spring and I had a coach there tell me

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Speaker 1: that if they ran three hundred reps in OTAs, and

441
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Speaker 1: this is just like a guestament. They ran three hundred

442
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Speaker 1: reps in the OTAs for the offense, Jordan Love took

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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy of them. So that's about that's

444
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Speaker 1: across the first team, second team, all those guys. So

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Speaker 1: you have this guy from getting almost no reps and

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Speaker 1: they didn't feel like he was ready at all coming

447
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Speaker 1: out of last year, which is one of the reasons

448
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Speaker 1: why they were so adamant about holding onto Aaron Rodgers.

449
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Speaker 1: And then they had him drinking out of a fire

450
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Speaker 1: hose in essence with Rogers gone in the spring. So

451
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Speaker 1: this is I'm with you, this is going to be

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Speaker 1: fascinating seeing how he looks. And without question, you know

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Speaker 1: this position that Packers are in after this year where

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have Aaron Rodgers going into a contract year

455
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to make a decision on what

456
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Speaker 1: to do with him, and he could refuse to sign

457
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Speaker 1: a deal and they could be forced to trade him.

458
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Speaker 1: They could extend him all of that I think is

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Speaker 1: colored by what happens with Jordan Love. And you know,

460
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Speaker 1: the Packers have spent the last three four months trying

461
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Speaker 1: to get like progress from Jordan Love, and now I

462
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Speaker 1: think with these games, they're going to be looking to

463
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Speaker 1: get answers on what Jordan Love is. And I think again,

464
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Speaker 1: like that could have a massive impact on the way

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Speaker 1: that they approach next February March. The worst backup quarterback situation?

466
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Speaker 1: Which team? Jets? Maybe? Um, you know, I like, how

467
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Speaker 1: about a competitive team? Did you know James Morgan is

468
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Speaker 1: because the Jets. Yeah, but a competitive team? A competitive team. Um,

469
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Speaker 1: if I was the Rams, I wouldn't feel tremendous about

470
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Speaker 1: what they've got behind Matthew Stafford. Are you confident with

471
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Cowboys are the one though? Yeah? I mean

472
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Speaker 1: you look at bet Nucci. Yeah, if I was the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: like you, combine the fact that Dak is coming off

474
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Speaker 1: of an injury and you don't have much behind him, um,

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Speaker 1: and you didn't replace Andy Dalton, and yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are right there because at least

477
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Speaker 1: the Rams played their backup last year. I mean, Benda

478
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Speaker 1: Nucci got snaps, but I think I think a problem

479
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Speaker 1: without like taking a look at every single one of

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Speaker 1: them individually. The Colts, I think the Cowboys are there,

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Speaker 1: the Colts, so Jacob. But the thing is, like Jacob

482
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Speaker 1: Eason at least had some level of pedigree, played big

483
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: time college football, has skill like like skill sets, fine,

484
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? With him, it's just after

485
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Speaker 1: the snap, he doesn't see it very well. And I

486
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Speaker 1: think that's part of why Sam Ellinger got got some reps.

487
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Speaker 1: But at least they've got a couple of guys they've

488
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Speaker 1: drafted that are in the pipeline, like I wouldn't. I

489
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Speaker 1: think if you ask most teams, they would take Jacob

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Speaker 1: Eason over Bend Nucci just based on talent because at

491
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Speaker 1: least Easton there's a ceiling there and he played at

492
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Speaker 1: University of Georgie, played at the University of Washington. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, you'd feel more comfortable about going into a game.

494
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Speaker 1: And that's what this is really about, right, Like going

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Speaker 1: into one game. I think you feel more comfortable going

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Speaker 1: into a game with Jacob Eason than you would Bend Nucci.

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Speaker 1: Here's some good situations. The Raiders have Marcus Mariota, Browns

498
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Speaker 1: have case Keenum, Jags with Gardner Minshew. The Saints are

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Speaker 1: gonna have either one of the others, yeah, or Jamis

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Speaker 1: and they could both be bad. Dolphins have Jacoby Brissette, Um, Bears, Niners,

501
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Speaker 1: Patriots with rookie quarterbacks. I mean even Blaine Gabbert isn't horrible, right,

502
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Speaker 1: Like that's fine. I mean you wouldn't want to be

503
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Speaker 1: your starter. But they drafted Kyle Trask too, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So like they've got like a you know, veteran guy

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Speaker 1: and then a developmental guy. So they're okay. Chiefs have

506
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Speaker 1: Chad Henny, Seahawks fine, Gino Smith. I mean they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have experience. You know, you're not going to have, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean like most teams aren't going to have like

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton as a backup like the Cowboys did last year.

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Speaker 1: And so I mean having a guy, you know, like

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Speaker 1: a Jacoby Brissette or a Gino Smith. Um, how did

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Speaker 1: the Jets not have an established backup quarterback who is

513
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Speaker 1: not non threatening? And that's why I still think, like

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Speaker 1: I still look at it, and I don't think Nick

515
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Speaker 1: Foles wants to go to the Jets, and maybe that's

516
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Speaker 1: a factor in this whole thing. But I think Nick

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Speaker 1: Foles would be perfect for the Jets the general manager there.

518
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Speaker 1: Joe Douglas was with Nick Foles in Philadelphia. And wouldn't

519
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Speaker 1: you want Zach Wilson Beyonce is what you're saying, like,

520
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Speaker 1: which is the in case of emergency break glassing, wouldn't

521
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Speaker 1: you want Zach Wilson to have like a veteran guy

522
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Speaker 1: in the room as like a sounding board, you know,

523
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Speaker 1: like the guy who's been there and done it and

524
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Speaker 1: like who can be a resource for him, right, Like

525
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Speaker 1: you'd want to have somebody like that in the room.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I think that I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: surprised that the Jets make a move to put somebody

528
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Speaker 1: like that in the room for Zach Wilson. It's great

529
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Speaker 1: to catch up with you as always. The best training

530
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Speaker 1: camp stop that you had was weird. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what, Like watching the Rams practice right now, I

532
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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna pick the Packers to win the NFC,

533
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Speaker 1: But the Rams have really they really made me think

534
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Speaker 1: about it. I mean, I just the way the operation

535
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: runs and the way Matthew Stafford looks and just watching

536
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Speaker 1: where he Morris is the new defensive coordinator, and watching

537
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Speaker 1: the way Jeale and Ramsey is with his teammates, there's

538
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: a really good vibe there. And can't beat the weather

539
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: down there either. So give me the team that you

540
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: came away going, oh like, oh like in a bad way. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 1: so hard this time of year to say that about anybody.

542
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Speaker 1: The Steeler's offensive line I would be concerned with. I

543
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Speaker 1: would just like that. When I was there, they had

544
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Speaker 1: a rookie at left tackle and Dan Moore a rookie

545
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Speaker 1: at center. I just be concerned about that offensive line.

546
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Speaker 1: And I think the defense is gonna be really good.

547
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Speaker 1: Is the defense is gonna be like like James Ferrier,

548
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: Troy Polamalo, James Harrison carried the team good. I think,

549
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Speaker 1: at least for a little while while they figure out

550
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line they might need to be. So that

551
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: was the one that really sort of stuck out to me,

552
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: was that Steeler's offensive line. And Mike Tomin always figures

553
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Speaker 1: this stuff out. That Steeler's offensive line would have me

554
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: pretty worried if I was there. Oh, this was brought

555
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: up by one of our list. There's why are Mike

556
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Speaker 1: Shanahan and Mike Holmegren not in the Hall of Fame.

557
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't Mike Shanahan to me should be. I mean,

558
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: if the Hall of Fame is about like the story

559
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: of pro football and like the impact you've had on

560
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: pro football, how many teams are running Shanahan's offense twenty

561
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Speaker 1: five years after like he like, because you remember what

562
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: it was like in ninety six. No one knew what

563
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: to do with that run game. It basically pumped life

564
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Speaker 1: into John Elway's career the very end. Like that offense

565
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: that went in twenty five years ago, Half the league's

566
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Speaker 1: running it now, Like people who don't like offensive coaches

567
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: who don't know it are trying to get on staffs

568
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: that run it so they can learn it, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Like like how he won two Super

570
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: Bowls and then the impact that he had on football overall.

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00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: I like, I don't know why he isn't. And Holgren.

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00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: I think Holmegern's there too. He's went to the Super

573
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Speaker 1: Bowl with two different teams, and his coaching trees ridiculous.

574
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Speaker 1: Like you look at those Packers staffs and the guys

575
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Speaker 1: that were on those staffs and Steve Mariucci and John

576
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: Gruden and like you go up and down the line, like,

577
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: both those guys at least deserve consideration. I think Shanahan

578
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: should be in, and I'm surprised he isn't. And when

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Speaker 1: I look at like Bill Cower and Jimmy Johnson, all

580
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: due respect to those guys, I think Shanahan is easily

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00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: on those guys level. Yeah, I do too. And I

582
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: think you're gonna look at Bill Koer and you're gonna

583
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: have other coaches be compared to Bill Cowher. So Mike

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00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 1: Tomlin is already a Hall of Fame coach in my opinion,

585
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: right right right now. If Cower's in, Mike Tomlin's going

586
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: to be in. Yeah. And I think, you know, to me,

587
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: like it's it's tough with coaches because I think it's

588
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: not just success, it's like legacy, it's the impact, you

589
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's not just like Tony Dungee,

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Speaker 1: for example, like the impact that Tony Dungee had. Now,

591
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Speaker 1: Tony Dungee only won one Super Bowl, but Tony Dungee's

592
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Speaker 1: impact on football, the first African American coach to win

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, the like amount of assistance that he

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Speaker 1: had that became really good head coaches, Like, like I

595
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: don't think you argued Tony Dungee's a Hall of Famer,

596
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: but it's not about his overall record, because there are

597
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people who could match his record. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Dungee's impact on the game of football. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's sort of what you have to

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Speaker 1: look at with some of these coaches. That's why I

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00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: stay with Shanahan, Like his impact is undeniable. I mean,

602
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: look across the league, Sean McVay, his son Kyle, and

603
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: San Francisco Matt Lafleur, Arthur Smith who like never coached

604
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: for him, but was influenced by him because he learned

605
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: his offense from Lafleur. Like the branches of his tree

606
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: are all over the place. And so I think you

607
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: have to consider impact on the game. And that to

608
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: me is like where you separate the guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: some guys who have won one or two versus other

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Speaker 1: guys who have won one or two. Which you know

611
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: which ones are? Which ones do you give entrance to

612
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame With the other coaches who have

613
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: won four Super Bowls? You know, the guys like Bill

614
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Speaker 1: Walsh and Bill Belichick and Chuck Nole, great to talk

615
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: to you. Albert, thanks for joining us as always. All right,

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Speaker 1: thanks Dan. That's Albert Breer, senior NFL Rep quarter for

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Speaker 1: the Monday Morning Quarterback. He's good and I always learned

618
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: something when he's on James in California. Hey James, good morning.

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Speaker 1: What do you have for me today? The first time

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Speaker 1: long time six one, two twenty. Yeah. You just mentioned

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Speaker 1: on your show yesterday that kind of what the folk

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Speaker 1: point was going to be for Hard Knocks first episode

623
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Speaker 1: not really focusing on the stars. They I felt like

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Speaker 1: the whole episode was really focused on Dak Prescott. Yeah. Ze,

625
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of Michael Parsons was kind of were

626
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Speaker 1: you surprised on that or Yeah, But it feels like

627
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: they always start with that and then eventually Hard Knocks

628
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Speaker 1: is going to be about secondary players. You know, is

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Speaker 1: there a rift, a fight in practice? They it's formulaic

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Speaker 1: what Hard Knocks has. Did I think that they would

631
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Speaker 1: start out with so much on Dak I didn't, But

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Speaker 1: then they had all of this footage. They had the

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Speaker 1: is anybody checking him out? You're gonna go out there

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Speaker 1: and get hurt. They had that. We didn't know exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's still a mystery to us this injury. They had

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Speaker 1: the audio of that, and that to me was really strong.

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Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott trying to wrap a birthday present for Dak.

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Speaker 1: I didn't need to see it felt like it was scripted.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that Dak shows up right after he's

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Speaker 1: finished rapping the present, Oh wow, what timing. Crazy. Those

644
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Speaker 1: guys are crazy. Jerry Jones putting salt on every bite

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Speaker 1: of his egg McMuffin or whatever that was. While it's

646
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Speaker 1: not news, it was fascinating to watch it. I'm waiting

647
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Speaker 1: to hear the Cowboys have signed a deal with McDonald's.

648
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: Jerry announced that today. But you know, all it is is,

649
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Speaker 1: it's just it's football. They're talking football, playing football, and

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Speaker 1: that's all we want. It's like the Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 1: It's not really a great game. We just we need football.

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Speaker 1: We're looking for football. College football rankings came out, Oh,

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Speaker 1: US high. Eric, what's on your mind today? Hey, Dan

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Speaker 1: Um long time second time five nine two ten, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was just curious up for you and the rest

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Speaker 1: of the day. At when you have something like hard

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Speaker 1: Knocks or a game, you tell your family and and

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Speaker 1: work purposes so you can watch it and you know privately,

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Speaker 1: or or you just watch it, you know, just randomly um,

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Speaker 1: you know wherever you want. Well, it's a little different

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Speaker 1: there are times when I'll say, hey, I got to

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Speaker 1: topic is. But no, with Hard Knocks, just watch. There's

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Speaker 1: no permission needed, granted any of that. It's just this

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Speaker 1: is this is something that I'm interested in watching, or

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Speaker 1: I need to watch this, this is a game that

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Speaker 1: I need to watch. But no, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: have to do that. Yeah, Paully. There is a bit

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Speaker 1: of a dance though for us, because like if I'm

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Speaker 1: watching l Shu versus Alabama, say to my wife, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, one versus two. Okay, she's great. Last night,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to watch Detroit Pistons Houston Rockets Summer League game,

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Speaker 1: Kid Cunningham versus Jalen Green. It was actually good TV.

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Speaker 1: Yeah she's oh the NBA still one. I go, oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I'm hoping she hasn't asked, is this summer league?

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Speaker 1: She you know, she just thinks it's a regular season game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but if I had to sell a summer league game

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Speaker 1: over CSI Miami, I'm gonna lose that one. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: that was one versus two and it turned out to

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Speaker 1: be really entertaining because Jalen Greene gets buckets man of

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Speaker 1: all of these draft picks this year, he scores, and

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Speaker 1: what he did in the G League, really he's got

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Speaker 1: a headstart. He got a headstart on everybody because he

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Speaker 1: was doing that against players who had been in the league.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to showcase their tallenge in the G League

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Speaker 1: and that was entertaining last night, and he got the

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Speaker 1: better of Kate Cunningham. Granted it's only summer league, but

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00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: they're taking it very seriously. McLevin pulled question today kind

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Speaker 1: of surprising. Do you want the NFL to enforce its

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00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: taunting rule more strictly? Only fifty seven percent say no,

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Speaker 1: So that means forty three percent do want this taunting

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Speaker 1: os Okay, I thought it'd be like eighty twenty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious with the demographics of who doesn't like it,

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Speaker 1: who does? Yeah, Seton, I just don't know what the

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Speaker 1: line is there. Obviously, there has to be a ton

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Speaker 1: of gray area in here, and right, you can certainly

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Speaker 1: go overboard with taunting, right that, we've seen that a

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Speaker 1: million times, but there is sort of that emotional gray

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Speaker 1: area in the middle. And I don't know how they're

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Speaker 1: going to police that. It's a physical game, it's an

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Speaker 1: emotional game. You can't, you know, tackle somebody like that

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Speaker 1: and play that hard and then get up and just

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Speaker 1: be like, Okay, now, let's commonly go on to the

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Speaker 1: next play. I don't know, it just seems it seems

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Speaker 1: like it's going to be tough to figure that out.

747
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: The Deshaun Watson situation is a gray area getting murkier

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Speaker 1: because the checks AND's GM. Nick Kusserio was on Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio six ten in Houston yesterday and he had this

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Speaker 1: to say about Deshaun Watson playing for Houston. Are you

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00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: still hopeful that he plays for you? Guys? I think

752
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: we've been consistent from the beginning. You know, we're not

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Speaker 1: going to comment about personal situations and what's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: what could happen, what is likely to happen. Again, I

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Speaker 1: think there's been a lot of discussion, a lot of speculation.

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, our philosophy has been just take it one

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00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: day at a time and just keep moving forward with

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Speaker 1: its team. It's not a personal situation. It's a football question.

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Speaker 1: Just is your franchise quarterback going to start Week one

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Speaker 1: of the regular season? Yes? Or no? Do you plan

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00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: on Deshaun Watson starting Week one? Yes or no? He's eligible?

762
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Speaker 1: And at some point does somebody say we're going to

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Speaker 1: give you this and the Texans go all right, let's

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Speaker 1: be done with it. Yes, But isn't there this whole

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Speaker 1: other part of the story where de Shaun Watson said

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Speaker 1: he won't play for them and he wants to be traded. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, even if he was going to be

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Speaker 1: the Week one starter, he won't be because he won't play. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's being paid. Does he want to continue to be paid?

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Speaker 1: And if you don't want to continue to be paid,

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Speaker 1: then we'll suspend you. Then does he want to play

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Speaker 1: for the Texans because he's making thirty five forty million

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00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: dollars a year? My guess is probably so certainly a

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00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: money where your mouth is scenario looming. There's no doubt

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00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: everybody say you don't want to play? Are you refusing

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00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 1: to play? And if that's the case, then we don't

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00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: have to pay you. Yes, Ton innocent, soil proven guilty.

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Speaker 1: But teams, how much should they be worried about the

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Speaker 1: pr hit of bringing in DeShawn Watson or is that

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00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: a fleeting thing and people will forget it as long

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00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: as he plays? Well, what do you think it is?

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00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: I think you. I don't think it's a good idea

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Speaker 1: to be training anytime soon for Deshaun Watson. If the

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Speaker 1: Broncos picked up Deshaun Watson, you would stop being a

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Speaker 1: Broncos fan. I would not, but I would I initially,

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Speaker 1: but that's what they're paying. I know, but I initially

787
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Speaker 1: would be like that, that's questionable. And you're gonna probably

788
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Speaker 1: have people possibly outside marching, and it's going to be

789
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Speaker 1: a major pr hit and you're hoping it's not gonna

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00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: last very long and he'll be a great quarterback and

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00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: that everybody because do you? But do fans care? Like

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00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a group that you know cares? You know,

793
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: people people protested when Michael Vick came to Philadelphia. I

794
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: don't think anybody thought this guy's going to get a

795
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Speaker 1: second chance. He killed dogs, he went to prison, he's

796
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 1: getting out. I mean, Tyree Hill, he's got issues, He's

797
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: still Ben Roethlisberger went through thing. I mean, it happens.

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00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: We move on. You know what that says about us

799
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: is football fans. You know everything is transactional, interchangeable. All right,

800
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: that guy all right? Bringing another guy? Yeah. See, I

801
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: just don't understand from the Texans point of view, if

802
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: he's still worth it. He's got all of these accusations,

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Speaker 1: and then on top of that, he doesn't even want

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00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 1: to play for your team anymore. What are you holding

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Speaker 1: onto Let's get rid of him. Well, you don't want

806
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Speaker 1: to get a second round pick for him? I think

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00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: that's and Nick as Sario worked under Bill Belichick. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he's going to sell low. Coming up

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00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: next hour, we'll hear from Russell Westbrook. Tara Owens tells

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Speaker 1: us if Tony Romo should be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: One more item we close out the first hour. Summer's

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