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Thanks for 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: making us part of your day. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Harvard Guy, 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Funny Guy, playmaking quarterback now at Amazon, joining us, Greg 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: cosel Aiden, Hodgson, Lee. 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: And Cohen stopping buying. 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: So we had Christian McCaffrey, and I've said before, is 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: in my lifetime Walter Payton's bbably the best running back 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: Barry Sam is closed. 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: I'd say Christian McCaffrey in terms of the ability to 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 1: do everything, not fumble, catch a pass, make a blog, 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: make a run, make people miss outrun people. He was 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: on our show yesterday, but it was at the very 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: end of our show and he played a couple different 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: times with Sam Darnold, once in San Francisco and once 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: in Carolina, so he knows Sam very well, and he 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: dropped this little gem about slinging Sammy. 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: D When I first met him in Carolina, from the jump, 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 4: I was like, this guy's a dude. 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 5: And the more and more. 31 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 4: You see him at practice that you see the throws 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 4: to make you understand why he's a top pick in 33 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: the draft. And then you're around him more and you're like, 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 4: this is one of the best players I've been around, period, 35 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: And it's because of how talent, talent, how talented his 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: arm is. He's he's way more athletic than people give 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: him credit for. 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one of the most talented players I've ever seen. 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: And that's the guy that plays with George Kittle and 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: Trent Williams, the Deebo Samuels. I mean, like you know, 41 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: Fred Warner of Bosa, He's one of the most talented 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: players I've ever played with. All those Carolina teams they 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: had good players too, So the fans opinion on Donald 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: is so different than the player's opinion on Donald and 45 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: the coach's opinion on Donald. I mean, if Sam throws 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: an ugly pick in the Super Bowl, fans will be like, 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: told Jah can't play. When this guy was at the 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: depths of his career, players were always like, he's a dude. 49 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: And by the way, players and coaches gossip like the 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: rest of us, and people inside the game know how 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: good he is. And I think one of the reasons 52 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: is is because first impressions die slowly. And there's a 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: reason our parents. I hope your parents did this. My 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: parents and my dad did this lot where you know, 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: look people in the eye, talk your shirt in firm handshake. 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: First impressions matter. Man never had better advice. I had 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: a college professor named Howard Hopp at Eastern Washington University. 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: He was a very funny guy, small guy, projected, wore 59 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: like an interesting hat, and the reason when you had 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: a class project, he would make you come up and 61 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: present it like a business person. And I can remember 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: him shouting at me. 63 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: Cow HUD's it out. I wouldn't buy. 64 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Trisk gets from you, Stotova, And it was like, first 65 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: impressions matter. People feed off your energy or your negativity. 66 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: And Sam's never been a victim. He's got great energy. 67 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: He's a great guy, and that was THO the hard times. 68 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: So you know, but those first images in New York, 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm seeing ghosts on a nationally televised game. But players 70 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: always knew how bad the Jets were. So I think 71 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: that stuff just gets embedded in our brain, your first impressions. 72 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: And I'll give you a basketball example, Chris Webber. When 73 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: Chris Webber came into basketball as a college player, I'd 74 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: never seen a guy that big, with that good of. 75 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: Hands and that good of feet. 76 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: I thought he had the best hands and feet I'd 77 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: ever seen from a big pre lebron. I just like 78 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: he had the feet of a guard and the hands 79 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: of a catch and shoot two guard. But because he 80 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: called a timeout in the National Championship, that gets embedded 81 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: in your brain. Sea Webb is an NBA Hall of Famer. 82 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: It's a five time All Pro in his prime twenty 83 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: five a game, tough defender, great rebounder, unbelievable touch for 84 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: a big guy. He was a great Hall of Fame 85 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: level basketball player. But you say, see web and you 86 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: think that timeout, that image one second is all That 87 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: play lasted one second. 88 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: Scott Norwood made a lot more. 89 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 1: Kicks than the one he missed in the Super Bowl, 90 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: but that stuff gets embedded with people. And when I look, 91 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: I've said this, I've used this stat before, is that 92 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: if you go after the Jets, he went to Carolina 93 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: and he got benched for the first time in his career. 94 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: Then November twenty seventh, Sam Darnold started again. From that 95 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: day to today, Carolina Niners, Minnesota Seattle, highest percentage of 96 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: one hundred plus passer rating games, winningest quarterback in the league. 97 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: The dude is a baller, and the players and the 98 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: coaches know it. And if he loses the Super Bowl, 99 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: players and coaches will not bail on Sam. Tom Brady 100 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: lost multiple Super Bowls, won the Nick Foles, but fans 101 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: will immediately bail on him. He's just seen differently from 102 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: one group to the next. Okay, So I saw this 103 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: headline and I really love this headline because you know, 104 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: I like Mike Rabel, and you know I love Max Crosby. 105 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: Max Crosby, the Raiders reportedly wants to play where does 106 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: he want to play? 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: This team? 108 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: That team, the best team, the AFC, THEFC. Max Crosby 109 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: wants to play for Mike Rabel, and running backs and 110 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: quarterbacks want to play with Kyle Shanahan, Matt Stafford took 111 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: less to play with Sean McVay. You see Rabel in 112 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: the tunnel with players emotionally hugging them, and he's not 113 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: just doing that to the stars, he's doing that to 114 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: gunners on special. 115 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: Teams and long snappers. 116 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: That image is so incredibly powerful throughout the league. And 117 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: there are only five or six head coaches, that's about it, 118 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: in this league that have a brand. That doesn't mean 119 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: there's only five or six great coaches, but that have 120 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: a brand. 121 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 3: Shanahan schemes, Andy. 122 00:06:53,000 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: Reid, creativity, McVeigh, energy, innovation, Harbaugh, physicality, and the two 123 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: words I would use with Mike Rabel tough love. Nobody 124 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: is going to be harder on you and love you 125 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: more than Dad and Mike Rabel and Vrabel's brand is 126 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: virtually impossible to duplicate because of his size and physicality. 127 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: Apparently he intimidated people in Tennessee like he was intimidating, 128 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: and there were reports that when he was interviewing for jobs, 129 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: you know, people remarked about his sheer size and presence 130 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: in the room and it worked against him. I can't 131 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: imagine it would, but those were the stories, so you 132 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: can't really duplicate him. And the other thing is there's 133 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: two things in the league you cannot fake, and I 134 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: would say among pro athletes, you can't fake a tough guy. 135 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: Those who know no, you can't fake being a tough guy. 136 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: You also can't fake that you really really deeply care 137 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: about your players. Players can smell fake tough guys. They 138 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: can sniff out the guy who says he loves you 139 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: but doesn't so. Vrabel to me, is a very unique 140 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: coach Chris Long, and he's such a good fit in 141 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: New England. Chris Long yesterday on the show talked about. 142 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 6: That Mike vrabel is who he is. What you see 143 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 6: is what you get. Players appreciate that, and we also 144 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 6: appreciate being told the truth. That's one thing I always 145 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 6: appreciate about Belichick was, you know, like I had coaches 146 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 6: that would walk a mile around confrontation and telling you 147 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 6: the truth and telling you if what you were doing 148 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 6: wasn't cutting it, or what we were doing as a team, 149 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 6: something needed to change. Hiring Mike vrabel Is is going 150 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 6: to turn out to be one of the best decisions 151 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 6: a team has made this decade. 152 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: And by the way. Sean Payton has some of this able. 153 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, They'll bark at you, they allow you to 154 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: bark back, and they don't hold grudges. I mean, nobody 155 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: nothing pettier than holding grudges. Sean Payton barks at, bownicks Bonicks, 156 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: barks back, Sean barks back, bo barks back again, and 157 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: they don't hold grudges. He loves him and Rabel has 158 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: that quality. And even among coaches, you'd think that was universal, 159 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: it's not. There's pettiness in every industry and Rabel just 160 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: doesn't have that. Sou Warriors finally made a trade. Boy, 161 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: what a big nothing burger that was. 162 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 7: The Jonathan Kuminga era ends with a whimper. 163 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: Woof, like a real whimper. I've got some thoughts on 164 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: that for the record. So all the money is coming 165 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: in on Seattle. Jmac ufo has been a bit of 166 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: a contrarian, so I said from the very beginning this number. 167 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: If you got Seattle at three and a half, I'm 168 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: much more comfortable Now it's four and a half. I 169 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: think I think bookies are having a hard time not 170 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: pushing it to five. 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He has to have the 204 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: ball in his hands. I think he could screw the 205 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: New York Knicks up because Jalen Brunson needs the ball 206 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: to be effective. He's not as good off ball, well 207 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: Yannis off ball, he can't shoot right. So like he's 208 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: a great defensive player. That would help a lot of teams. 209 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: But you have to have an entire camp with him, 210 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: so the first year you trade for him, it's a 211 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: sunk cost. So there's just no I mean, I don't think. 212 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 1: I don't think in the current way the game is 213 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: being played. If you're going to give me a big 214 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: gimme Jokic, he can shoot, I'll take Jokic. He works 215 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: with everybody elevates everybody and can shoot. Yannis is very 216 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: team specific. You have to be bad defensively, so he 217 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: can solve your defensive issues. That's why he would work 218 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: kind of with the Lakers because Luke is a liability 219 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: on the defensive end, and so is Austin Reeves, and 220 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: he could be the rim protector. But it would be 221 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: hard because you'd be taking the ball away from Luca 222 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: and Austin Reeves. So even with the Lakers, it's a 223 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: weird fit. So the Warriors were interested, but they settled 224 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: for Chris Stops. Porzingi's talented, m can't stay Healthythan Kaminga 225 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: buddy healed out Kaminga. 226 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: They've you know, when I look. 227 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: At what defines the Warriors over the last four years, 228 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: couldn't make Jordan Poole work, James Wiseman work, Jonathan Kamingo work. 229 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: All have some talent. Moses Moody was okay, but they 230 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: have not drafted an All Star since Draymond Green in 231 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: twenty twelve. And this is the one downside to having 232 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: a great popular superstar. 233 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: How do you end it? How do you do it? 234 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: Bulls had Michael Jordan, Jerry Reinsdorf, Rest in Peace came 235 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: out and said, okay, this is the last run. That's 236 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: why they made the documentary. 237 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 3: This is it. 238 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: You think, okay, all right, are to start over. Yeah, 239 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: the Derrick Rose Bulls were interesting for about forty five minutes, 240 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: but they've been mostly irrelevant since. And then you think, well, 241 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: the post Tim Duncan, the Spurs won a late one 242 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: with Tim Duncan, Kawhi they did, and you think they're 243 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: brilliantly run. They have not won a playoff series since 244 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and they've drafted brilliantly. So post Kobe, pre 245 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: Lebron Lakers were the worst team in the league. They 246 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: were bad. So what do you do when you have 247 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: this wildly popular star. There's no perfect answer. You can 248 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: cut the ties, you can spread it out. I mean, 249 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: they've been trying to make this thing work forever. But 250 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: the bottom line is the Steve Kerr Steph Curry offense 251 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: is complicated and cerebral. It is massive motion. You have 252 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: to be very instinctive and a lot of these young 253 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: guys Kaminga just never felt like it worked. So the 254 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: Warriors have become very old. They don't get fast break 255 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: points and very small they don't rebound well or get 256 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: points in the paint. They're a hard watch when Curry's 257 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: off the floor. They're just a boring team to watch. 258 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: They don't have size, they don't have speed, And so 259 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: they used to be a draft developed team right with 260 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: Steph and clan Draymond. But then they became an acquisition 261 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: team to fit in with Steph. And the problem is 262 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: that is not the league. The league is so five 263 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: now on acquisitions. So what they need to be because 264 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: they can't. Young guys don't work there. They don't work. 265 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: So you've got to be an acquisition team. Well, the 266 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: NBA punishes you so so basically what they do now 267 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: get veteran players. 268 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: It's too punitive. 269 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: Okay, see great team, young, nimble, Detroit built entirely through 270 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: the draft. You know, san Antonio super young and nimble. 271 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: The Warriors are old, expensive, slow, small. It just doesn't work. 272 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I I think they wanted Gianness, but even Giannis. 273 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: My question was, well, I mean, Steph can't give you 274 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: eighty two games. Giannis can't give you eighty two games. 275 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: They'll be more fun to watch, you know, I mean, 276 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna have two stars. You'll be a playoff team. 277 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, I think this is what happens. 278 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: I think the bull struggle with it. Post Jordan, you 279 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: know you got post code, you got post Duncan. I 280 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: don't know what you do. I don't think there's an 281 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: answer for it. But it feels like, you know what 282 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: they feel like. The Warriors feel like the old guy 283 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: that walks into the young nightclub and you're like, Cringey May, 284 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: you won't want to Applebee's next door. This isn't working 285 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: for you. I mean, they just don't feel like it 286 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: feel like out of touch for what. 287 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: The league is. 288 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: It's it's the the acquisition. Young guys don't work. We 289 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: know that now they don't work. Kaminga's got talent, just 290 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: doesn't work. Okay, let's go acquire guys. That's not what 291 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: the league is. That that that's what Adam Silver has 292 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: built with all these aprons. He's built a league to 293 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: really punish you if that's your game plan. 294 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: Jmack with the news, No, no, no, turn on the news. 295 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News. 296 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 7: Well, it's been a huge week in the NBA comm 297 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 7: but we're starting with the NFL because there is actual 298 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 7: news in the Super Bowl, and it's not great for Seattle. 299 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 7: Nick Umunwari, the great young talent in the secondary, a 300 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 7: great chess piece who can play in the box in 301 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 7: the secondary, injured his ankle at practice yesterday, and we 302 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 7: have video footage of him walking into the hotel last night. 303 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 7: If you have not seen this, it's not great news 304 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 7: for Seahawks fans. Here's I'm and Warre getting out of 305 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 7: an suv and you can see he's clearly laboring, unless 306 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 7: he's hamming it up for the cameras. Colin, this does 307 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 7: not look good. That is a pronounced limp. Now maybe 308 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 7: you shoot him up with you know. 309 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: That's Wednesday night. 310 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, okay, so he's got a practice Thursday. 311 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 7: We'll see what happens today at practice. Then he's got 312 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 7: Friday Saturday. 313 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: I think players heal very quickly. 314 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 7: I mean depending, all right, Well. 315 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: Man, that just doesn't look great. That's not natural. That's 316 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: what I looked last night out of the Yeah. 317 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 7: I was getting some reports about you last night getting 318 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 7: after it. Obviously, I'm and Warri is what really makes 319 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 7: his defense go. Now they hit their secondaries loaded whither. 320 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: It's so versatile and you know, safety is a position 321 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: in the league that's in vogue now. Yeah, like a 322 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: lot of the really good teams are safeties are moving 323 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: up draft boards. So and it's a very cyclical league. 324 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: Nobody likes running backs now everybody wants running back. These 325 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: two teams run the ball. Safety has become a kind 326 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 1: of an alpha on these defenses. A versatile safety who 327 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: can cover, who can pass rush. This kid can get sacks, tackling. 328 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: He's a great tackler. 329 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 7: So this is a he can match up with your 330 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 7: wide receiver, your tight end, you're running back out of 331 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 7: the backfield, all of it. Like, he's all over the board. 332 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 7: This would be a big blow to Seattle if he's 333 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 7: unable to play, but it's it's still let's say Thursday, 334 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 7: Hopefully he'll be fine and in time. All right, let's 335 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 7: go to the next way with the Dallas Cowboys. 336 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: Colin. 337 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 7: You know, they haven't been to an NFC championship game 338 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 7: since nineteen ninety five, my goodness, so embarrassing. And of 339 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 7: course Dak Prescott's at the Super Bowl and he's getting 340 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 7: asked on his chances of making a Super Bowl in 341 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 7: the future. 342 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 9: Monkey gorilla, you know, he grows, he gets bigger each 343 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 9: year that we don't make it, and that's real, you know, 344 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 9: talking to Micah just you know, it's one of those things. 345 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 9: You become a rookie. 346 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: You get in here and you know. 347 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 9: Everybody thinks they can win the Super Bowl and they 348 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 9: think how easy it is. And when you have a 349 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 9: year like I did as a rookieyear you think you'ren'na 350 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 9: have multiple opportunities to get back, and you sit here 351 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 9: in year ten having opportunities in the playoffs and not 352 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 9: doing what you wanted to do as a team, and 353 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 9: definitely individually, it hurts. And every year, you know, it 354 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 9: just means even more. 355 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: You know, It's interesting. 356 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: He's a little bit of the opposite of Sam Darnold. 357 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 1: So the first impressions of Donald is bust. Yeah, but 358 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: inside the league, everybody's like, now, that's one of the 359 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: best athletes I've ever seen play the position. Dak comes 360 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: onto the scene as a fourth rounder Dallas Cowboys, big brand, 361 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: offensive coach, very quick, the best offensive line in the league. 362 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: The initial imagery of Dak is, this guy's a Hall 363 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: of Famer. It's like twenty four touchdowns, two picks, with 364 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: thirteen and three they had the best online very quickly 365 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: had Zeke. So the early belief on Dak after like 366 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: two years was it's gonna be a Hall of Fame, 367 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: this is it elite player, and Dak has sort of 368 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: plateaued because he's not a great athlete. He didn't have 369 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: a big arm. Donald's a much more talented player. But 370 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: Donald's initial the embedded part of Donald can't play sees 371 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: ghost the initial part with Dek. So my take on 372 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: Dak has always been he got overvalued because he walked 373 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: into a really goody. If you have the best offensive 374 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: line in the league. I mean for a quarterback, it's hard, 375 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: it's hard to fail. 376 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 7: I think he started as a third string quarterback in preseason. 377 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 7: It was Romo who got hurt. Then there was a 378 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 7: backup whose name is Skasey, and then Dak comes in. 379 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 7: People are no expectations. He was amazing. 380 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: He had a game at the Coliseum. I thought it 381 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: was a preseason game or something, and people went, yeah, dude. 382 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 2: He was good. 383 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: But as you later found out, there are limitations when 384 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: you put him in playoff games against elite teams. He's 385 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: been a very average postseason quarterback. 386 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 7: So I got a surprise question for you, it's not 387 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 7: on the sheet here. How many career playoff wins for 388 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 7: Dak Prescott two? Correct? Sam Darnold has two this postseason. 389 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 7: Drake May has three already. And I look at Dak 390 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 7: and I'm like he guys have been great in the playoffs. 391 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 7: But Colin has Jerry Jones put a great team around him. 392 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: No, my argument is just on the imagery. The initial 393 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: first two years of Sam was can't play. The initial 394 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: because of what he inherited in Dallas was unbelievable player. 395 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: The truth is today if you ask GM, Sam's Moore talented. 396 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: But those first impressions and die slowly. 397 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 7: I mean Brock perty my guy five playoff winks five. 398 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 7: First impression for Brock was like, well, he didn't lose 399 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 7: a game, remember the first first time when he came 400 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 7: in as the backup. 401 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: And now has reality set in with brockolo but he 402 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: gets stinged up. There are he can be a bit reckless. 403 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: He does need to have a little better protection. Yeah, 404 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: but the first impressions, I mean, by the way, first 405 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: impressions of Jalen Hurts it was ohh wow. She and 406 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: I heard two things last night at a Super Bowl party. 407 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: The Jalen Hurts. Locker room stuff is not good. He 408 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 3: is not popular. 409 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 7: The narratives Listen, I gotta defend my guy Hurts. I'm 410 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 7: dug in. You know, we're defending Super Bowl MVP, Jalen Hurts. 411 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 7: Let's put some respect on his name. Final story, Colin, 412 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 7: Sean McVeigh, and lesned are locked in for next season, 413 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 7: But now the question becomes, what about Matthew Stafford, the 414 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 7: likely MVP should return for his eighteen season. I'm told 415 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 7: he's coming back, but Snead addressed that future. 416 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: Here we go. 417 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 10: At the macro level, I think we when Matthews owned 418 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 10: the horse, we go, let's make the most of our 419 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 10: time with Matthew. 420 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 3: And we're well aware that there will be. 421 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 10: A time where we have to transition, so we're kind of, 422 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 10: you kind of do both at the same time. Where 423 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 10: because there will be two different teams whether or without 424 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 10: Matthew obviously with the position he plays and how important 425 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 10: that position is and how will he plays it. 426 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: I actually think it's pretty cool. I've thought about this 427 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: with the Rams. They have two first this year. Don't 428 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: worry about a quarterback and it's not a great quarterback draft. 429 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 3: Just stack the team. 430 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: Because the following year you're probably going to have to 431 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: give up all sorts of draft picks to get your quarterback. 432 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: And the Rams are still very young on defense. So 433 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: why not just ride with Stafford instead of worrying about 434 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: his replacement. You got Garoppolo as a backup. He's capable 435 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: to win games. Stack take every one of these picks 436 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: and make sure they fit with Stafford, and just make 437 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: a run at the super Bowl. I mean, Sean McVay 438 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: has made two super Bowls. He gets to three. He's 439 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: on a short list of coaches who can do that. 440 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: We're so worried about replacing players. You don't get many 441 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: Max Crosby's, you don't get you don't get many Patrick's 442 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: er ten for the Broncos. Those are once a decade 443 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: players worry about replacing just stacked players around them. You 444 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: may never get. The Rams will probably never get a 445 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: quarterback ever again. As good as Matt Stafford, I'm not 446 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: drafting his replacement until I have to. 447 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, So jmck with the news. 448 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: Well that's the. 449 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: News, and thanks for stopping by the. 450 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: Heard Line news. 451 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of great players, uh, he has been as advertised, 452 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchison of the Detroit Lions. He is joining us 453 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: now live. I'm not sure if I've ever a Michigan 454 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: man through and through is joining us live. You know, 455 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 1: it's interesting you when you when you go to an 456 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: event like this and you're watching Seattle and New England, 457 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: do you have mixed emotions? I mean, do you are 458 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: you sitting there thinking, oh my god, this is my 459 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: whole dream, this is my whole life. It's like playing 460 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: at Michigan if you know, if you can beat Ohio State, 461 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: it's great, and Michigan's great. But if you if somebody 462 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: went four years to Michigan and never beat the Buck Guys, 463 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: you're like, it feels a little unfulfilling. Do you when 464 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: you're at the super Bowl? Aiden are you like this 465 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: makes you hungrier? It's it's kind of how do you 466 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: feel this week? 467 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 5: Yeah? 468 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 11: I mean at this point with this being my fifth 469 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 11: super Bowl without being at the super Bowl, you know, uh, 470 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 11: it pisses you off a little bit. Because we know 471 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 11: the talent we got on our team, and we know 472 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 11: like what we're capable of. We just got to put 473 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 11: it together and play complminary football and we'll be all right. 474 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 11: So that's that's what we got to do next year 475 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 11: if we want to be in the big Show. 476 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked a lot about Mike Rabel this week 477 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: and that his physicality, his size, it's hard to duplicate 478 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: Mike Rabel. Dan Campbell's probably the one guy in the 479 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: league that is sort of Vrabel NFC version, where they're 480 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: just not many human beings the size of Dan Campbell, 481 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: and I don't think you can be I don't think 482 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: you can coach like Dan unless you're Dan, right like 483 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: that kind of I mean to me, he's such an 484 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: authentic guy. Have you ever in your entire life and 485 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: all the coaches you've had, high school, college, pro, if 486 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: you ever had anybody that's even like Dan Campbell? 487 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. 488 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 11: I mean him and Harbor were similar in that way 489 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 11: for their love for football. 490 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 5: But Dan is different in the way that you said it. 491 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 11: It's it's like he one he's like towering, Like I feel, 492 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 11: I don't feel small in front of many people, but 493 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 11: like when someone's like kind of like has broad shoulders 494 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 11: and like standing toe to toe with me, he makes 495 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 11: me feel a little bit small for sure. 496 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 3: But so there's that factor, But it's also. 497 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 5: The way he lays it. 498 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 11: He lays it on the line, like even post games, 499 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 11: like if it's a tough loss or even even a 500 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 11: great win, the authenticity of the reactions and the emotions, 501 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 11: like you you feel that as a player, and even 502 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 11: when you know stuff wasn't going right for us this year, 503 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 11: it was the kind of up but now a win loss, 504 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 11: win loss, we couldn't we couldn't really find a streak 505 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 11: and and he was really imploring us to just stay 506 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 11: in the fight, like like we're going to catch fire 507 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 11: at some point, and you know, we ended up missing 508 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 11: the playoffs. Man, I think there's there's no loss belief 509 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 11: in him. 510 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: Well, you had Sam Donald in your division a year ago, 511 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: and I've always said, we were talking about in the 512 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: show today. Whatever the initial impressions are, it could be 513 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: of an actor's first movies. If they're both great, you 514 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: just think great actor, and they could go twelve years 515 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: without a hit. Sam Donald's initial impressions are, oh, he 516 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: can't play. But every time Christian McCaffrey came on my 517 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: show yesterday, he's like, I played with him in Carolina 518 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: and my first impression. 519 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: Was, that's one of the best players I've ever played with. 520 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: So the fans are like, yeah, guys, he's interception. Players 521 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: I've talked to are like, oh, I love Sam. Sam 522 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: is a baller, he could be a linebacker. What were 523 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: your impression when like Minnesota moved off him, were you 524 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: actually I mean, he was so good? Were you kind 525 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: of surprised? 526 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 5: For sure? 527 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 11: That situation is one That Minnesota situation is just it 528 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 11: can go either way, and it's whatever way the owner 529 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 11: and the GM they want to take that team, and 530 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 11: they ended up wanting to move on from him, and 531 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 11: now he's in the super Bowl. So it's, uh, you know, 532 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 11: all I gotta say is I'm not gonna wearn it want. 533 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 11: I don't want to talk about Minnesota. I just want 534 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 11: to say congrats to Sam, you know, because I think 535 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 11: he's he's had a crazy ride in the NFL and 536 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 11: to be where he's at and having a good chance 537 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 11: at winning the Super Bowl like that is talk about 538 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 11: an adversity story, overcoming adversity and and looking your obstacles 539 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 11: in the face and just not not caring about failure 540 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 11: and just keep moving on like that. To him, he 541 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 11: embodies that, Yeah, the you know, it's the NFL is crazy. 542 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 11: Max Crosby was a fourth round pick that just crazy. 543 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 11: Brady was a sixth round pick. 544 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: And then there are guys like you that are just 545 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: physically look different, play different. 546 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: You're an easy camp. 547 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, that guy's a first round pick, that 548 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: guy's top first, but they're not many after about fifteen picks. 549 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: I've had GMS tell me for years it's kind of 550 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: fifteen guys that are different, and then it's a bunch 551 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: of really potentially good players. Is I look at Detroit 552 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: and I've said this many times, I think your front 553 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: office is excellent. I'm like, there's a lot of dudes 554 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: on that team. There are a lot of dudes in Detroit. 555 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: Does that make losing tougher? Does that make disappointment tougher? 556 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: Knowing in that locker room you got fourth round guys 557 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: like Amaran Saint Brown, like you got guys everywhere. 558 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 3: Did that make it tougher this year? 559 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 5: Absolutely? Dude. I mean that's it's we're no longer it's. 560 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 11: No longer twenty twenty two where if we win a game, 561 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 11: everybody's screaming in the locker room, cheering. It's just the 562 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 11: expectation at this point, and when we're not doing that, 563 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 11: not even when I don't care what people say about us, 564 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 11: I don't care what reporters say. Like the overall expectation 565 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 11: for what guys believe we should be capable of is 566 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 11: that it's winning every week. 567 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: It's playoffs, it's super Bowl. 568 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 11: Like the fact that we haven't made one it does 569 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 11: piss me off at this point because I know what 570 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 11: we can do and I know. But don't get me wrong, 571 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 11: I know, in my whole heart, I believe that we're 572 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 11: going to go and we're gonna win it one day. 573 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 11: And do I know when that will be, No, but 574 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 11: I do know it will happen. 575 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 576 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: I look at this Super Bowl and I think these 577 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: are very similar teams. Defensive coaches, athletic quarterbacks that like 578 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: to throw the ball downfield, really good secondaries, front sevens 579 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: with a lot of. 580 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: Dudes that a got range and can move. Offensive lines. 581 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, there's a couple players each O line's got 582 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: like a really good Gray's Able for Seattle is a 583 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: dude Charles Cross pretty good. It's just interesting when you 584 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: look at these two teams, and I know you're concentrating 585 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: on the line, but when you look at these two teams, 586 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: do you think there's one team you go, oh, that 587 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: team has an edge here? 588 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 3: Do you see it that way? 589 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 11: Honestly, I haven't watched a ton of these teams, but 590 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 11: like you said, it's like if you say the offensive 591 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 11: lines are okay, like I think, really good quarterback play 592 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 11: with mobile quarterbacks like they can in football now, like 593 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 11: that can really like when we play Baltimore for example, 594 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 11: Like it doesn't matter who the old linemen are, you 595 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 11: could beat them, but you gotta then get Lamar down 596 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 11: and it's and that's a whole other task, you know. 597 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 11: So it's a offenses definitely make it challenging now with 598 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 11: their mobile quarterbacks, cause even if you win on the rush, 599 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 11: you then got to take down a quarterback who's running 600 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 11: a four or five and and can juke you out, 601 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,239 Speaker 11: you know. So it's it's it's a tough task. But 602 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 11: again you're right, defensive minded teams. This is gonna be 603 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 11: very defensive game and it's gonna be fun to watch 604 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 11: as a defensive player myself. 605 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: You know, you had you played and you're playing all 606 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: the games and you show up every week and you 607 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: had come off an injury the previous year, and for 608 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: players like you like, it's one thing. Like in baseball, 609 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 1: I guess pitchers have arm injuries, but a shortstop can 610 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: play for twenty years. In the NBA, you know, guys 611 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: play for a long time. Your position is so violent 612 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: and you're literally I mean, the collisions you are in 613 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: weekly are just like I don't I've said this before. 614 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: The fans you have no idea what football is like 615 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: from TV. Go stand on the sidelines. It's I mean, 616 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm six to two one, I'm bigger than average American. 617 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 3: It's terrifying. 618 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, God, do you do you think about that? 619 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 3: That you are living a dream? 620 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: Michigan first round pick, got the financial set? Do you 621 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: think about that when you play this game? As man, 622 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: I better cherish every freaking snap. Now you have a 623 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: good coach, you have a good front office. Half this 624 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: league doesn't. How do you like, how do you think 625 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: of yourself and your career and your future because you're 626 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: still young in a sport where you age quickly. 627 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 5: That's right, that's a great point. 628 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 11: That's why I'm really since college, since when I was 629 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 11: kind of in the middle of college, I prioritize longevity. 630 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 11: I prioritize diet and my health because I knew, man, 631 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 11: if this game that I love so much really depends 632 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 11: on my longevity and how long I can stay athletic, 633 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 11: how long I can stay injury free, Like why don't 634 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 11: more guys than take care of their body, you know, 635 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 11: if you really love this game. So man, I have 636 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 11: so much passion, and when I got that taken away 637 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 11: from me last year, it hurt, you know, not being 638 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 11: able to go out there, especially with a good ass 639 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 11: team number one seed in the NFC last year like 640 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 11: that hurt. And so being able to play this year 641 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 11: with a really fun defense, really good guys, it was 642 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 11: it felt like I was back. And again to your point, 643 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 11: it's this NFL experience is very fleeting, and I understand that, 644 00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 11: and that's why I really try to do everything I 645 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 11: can to play as long as I can. And so 646 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 11: at the end of this career, I'm going to look 647 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 11: back and go, I'm good. I did it all. 648 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: When I you remind me of Max Crosby, and I 649 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: know Max and I love Max. I just and that 650 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: you're you're willing to talk a little bit during a 651 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: game like you like you're a verbal guy, do you 652 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean not even maybe intimidation, not do you find 653 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: yourself verbalizing stuff during games? Is this like almost it's 654 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: a performance for you? It's three hours of being relentless. 655 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 3: I mean, does. 656 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: Your I've had I've had pass rushers tell me this, 657 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: and i haven't had other players tell me this. I've 658 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: had pass rushers tell me. Bro I have to change 659 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: personality like it is I am a different human for 660 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: fifty eight snaps on Sunday. Is that you are kind 661 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: of just the same intense guy. 662 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 11: No man, that that switch flips. And to me, I'm 663 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 11: not as vocal on the field. I'm like, I like 664 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 11: to be more of a quiet killer. Like like I like, 665 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 11: I won't stay anyth the old lineman. But if I'm 666 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 11: when I'm beating them, getting them, getting them, getting them, 667 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 11: like you see the you see the wear down, You 668 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 11: see the the demeanors change a little bit. And to me, 669 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 11: like that is the war within the war, you know 670 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 11: what I mean. It's not necessarily what you say. It's 671 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 11: when you start cooking like that. That that when the 672 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 11: demeanors change, momentums flipping, and you feel it, that's when 673 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 11: football's fun. 674 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 5: Man. 675 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: Uh, you got quality hair, head and shoulders must be 676 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: helping you with that. 677 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 3: Quality head of hair. 678 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 5: Aid. 679 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 3: That's all I gotta say. 680 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 5: That's a good they are, man, they are. 681 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 6: Man. 682 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 11: I'm out here with head and shoulders tackling Dandriff with 683 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 11: every wash, staying consistent every day. They've been a great 684 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 11: partner with me and man, staying consistent with them. Keep 685 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 11: keeping that dry scalp nice and moisturized would been good. 686 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 11: Now you look like you've been using it to yourself. Man, 687 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 11: you look like you got a good head of hair. 688 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: Man. 689 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 3: All right, my age starts with a six, and I 690 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 3: still got hair. 691 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 11: Okay, Hey, if I could be like that, I'd be blessed. Yes, okay, 692 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 11: because you know, and luckily I think genetically I might 693 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 11: be all right, but you never know. 694 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 5: But I think I'm looking good for twenty five. Right now, 695 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 5: we still got everything intact. 696 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: A couple of good this is. This is a hair piece. 697 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 3: I just don't let anybody know a little too bad. 698 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's right, all right. 699 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: Good see you, buddy, Good to see it, man, Aiden 700 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: just great. 701 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 3: Great player. 702 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 5: Man. 703 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: Right now, in the NFL, we got some pass rushers, 704 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: like I understand, but like we talk quarterbacks, we have 705 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: got some pass rushers in this sport that are all 706 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: time good. Jay Glazer reported this week Max Crosby is 707 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: done with the Raiders. They're gonna get a haul for 708 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: Max Crosby. I think you can get a bigger than 709 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons Hall. I really believe that it's the hurt. 710 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 711 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a Empacific. 712 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: Boy. I hope the crypto bros are doing okay today. 713 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: I mean, first the fuzzy monkeys on nfteth broke them. 714 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 3: Now what is it down to? 715 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 7: A nickel sixty six thousand? It's almost been halved in 716 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 7: three months. 717 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: Coling, Yeah good, great when you go out tonight's steakhouse 718 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: tripain in bitcoin seeh work crap coin. All right, so 719 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: super Bull Betting report. Okay, Well I'm gonna play a 720 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: little sociologists psychologist here. According to the market, all Seattle 721 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: money one point seven to six billion to be wager 722 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: legally in this game, four and a half point favorite 723 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: Seattle getting all the money. So what does that tell me? 724 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: If Seattle loses, there's going to be a lot of 725 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: angry betters, and betters can never look themselves in the 726 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: mirror and go yeah, I took the wrong team. I 727 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 1: do a segment every Monday called Colin Right, Colin Wrong. 728 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: Viewers and fans never acknowledge it's them, so it will 729 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: be They'll blame two people if Seattle losesnumber one, Sam 730 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: Darnold and number two the officials. It could be both. 731 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: It'll probably be one. And so I've said this before. 732 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: If Drake may loses, crickets, if Donald loses, because all 733 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: the Donald critics now you don't hear a peep from 734 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: them after the LA game. They've all disappeared like there's 735 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: a power outage in America. No anti Sam Darnald takes. 736 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: They'll come flying back because they bet the Seahawks if 737 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: they lose. And for all you people that believe the 738 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: NFL is rigged, and you're a sorry lot, it's been 739 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: a bad season for you. Patrick Mahomes did not make 740 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Lamar Jackson did not make the playoffs. Joe 741 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: Burrow did not make the playoffs. Star quarterbacks Josh Allen 742 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 1: did and then lost on the controversial play. Yeah, yeah, 743 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: the league was rigging Jarrett stidhaman bow Nicks to advance. 744 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: Both New York teams are unwatchable, Yet the Jags made 745 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and so did the Panthers. And oh, by 746 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: the way, the two biggest brands, Cowboys and Packers. You 747 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: could even argue this Steelers. Cowboys didn't make the playoffs, 748 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: Packers bounced early, Steelers humiliated in the playoffs. So a 749 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: bad year to believe the NFL is rigged. Yeah, let's 750 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: put that kind of nameless, faceless Patriot team where the 751 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: coach is the biggest star and Sam Darnold who largely 752 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: viewed by the fans an hour ago as a bust. 753 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: So you can just see what's going to happen. If 754 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: Seattle loses, that means seventy five percent of betters are 755 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: going to lose, and they've got to blame somebody, because 756 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: betters will not blame themselves. Here's the other story is 757 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,240 Speaker 1: that Max Crosby is reportedly, according to Jake Lazer, Jay's 758 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: been on a heater, is done with the Raiders. So 759 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: here is this is actually the Raiders. This actually is 760 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: not terrible for the Raiders because Max Crosby has not 761 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: translated into success, right Like, they haven't had the right 762 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: coach and the right quarterback, and I think they now 763 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: have both. 764 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 3: But Max is going to get you an absolute haul. 765 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: Really good teams, Good teams that probably could talk themselves 766 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: into winning a super Bowl with Max. New England, the Bears, 767 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: and the Ravens all could use Max Crosby. Okay, the 768 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: Patriots could use him, The Ravens could use him. The 769 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: Bears could absolutely use him. I could absolutely see an 770 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: all three teams get enough a first round pick or more. 771 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. 772 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons five star recruit goes to big brand Penn State. 773 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: First round pick goes to the Cowboys. Is viewed one way, 774 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 1: But to me, he's a splash player who disappears against 775 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: the run and has been overwhelmed by really elite left 776 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: tackles in the postseason. Max Crosby goes to Eastern Michigan. 777 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: Fourth round pick goes to the lowly Raiders. For a 778 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: long time, he's viewed another way. To me, Max Crosby 779 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: is the better player. Max Crosby is much better against 780 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: the run. Max Crosby is not a splash player. Max 781 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: Crosby is a relentless dog, very much like Aiden Hutcheson 782 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: or a Miles Garrett. 783 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 3: He just doesn't take plays off. 784 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: So and Mike is good I'm not saying that, but 785 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: I always felt, and I've had GMS telling me this. 786 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 3: Micah is a splash player. 787 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: He makes very memorable plays, and he's very good and 788 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: Green Bays defense was not as good when he got injured. 789 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Mike is not a first round talent, 790 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: but Crosby is better against the run. I think you 791 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: get a more consistent effort. So if the Raiders do 792 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: move off him, they're gonna get a haul a hall. 793 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: When I talk to executives around this league and I say, like, 794 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: who do you think is a guy who's a great player? 795 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 3: Take out quarterbacks? And I've asked this question for it. 796 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 3: Takeout quarterbacks. 797 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: Give me three guys in the league you die to have, 798 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: Like without question, Max Crosby gets named. 799 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 3: Here was Jay Glazer this week on his future. 800 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 5: There's a couple of guys. 801 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 3: If they tell you they're playing, they're playing. 802 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 5: It's not a for discussion. They're playing. They're certain guys. 803 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 5: They need it. 804 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 7: Do you think he I think his time with the 805 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 7: Raiders is done. 806 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 3: I do before the draft. 807 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 11: Probably what kind of hole do you think realistically a 808 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 11: Max Crosby gets? 809 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 12: In general, he probably more than Michaeh. So the day 810 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 12: it happened, no less than twenty teams called me. 811 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: Twenty teams on Max Crosby. He's only played with one 812 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: defensive Pro bowler. He's been double. Everybody knows you gotta 813 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: stop one Raider. He's Saquon and Matt Stafford. He just 814 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 1: needs the right fit.