1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Radio radio Radio Commies, a myth and bullshit. A radiophonic novella. 2 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Look Radio hosted by Malamuno Locomotives. Welcome back to Look 3 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: at Our Radio. Welcome back, Welcome back. This is Mala 4 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Munos and I'm the FM and we are Last Local Radio. 5 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: A radiophonic novella, which is just a really extra way 6 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: of saying a podcast podcast. You know it's a podcast 7 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: by now. Yes, Look Radio is a radio novella archiving 8 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: the brilliance and legacies of women and fems of color. 9 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: And as you know, we're in season three of Look 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: at Our Radio. We are calling Season three podcas because 11 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: firm revenge has never sounded so sweet. Yes, and you know, 12 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: we have been out of the studio for about a month, 13 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: so we are super excited to be recording with you 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: all today from EsPAS nine Real Espasio. Last time on 15 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 1: Look at That our Radio, we actually published our live 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: podcasts from Cardinal Stritch University and that was a good time. 17 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: That was our first time in the Midwest, our first 18 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: time in Minnesota. We were in Milwaukee, um, you know, 19 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: on our old stomping grounds that is a Catholic school 20 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: Lord talking host ship on the Lord's Time. I love it. 21 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: It was great. We you know, welcome to We're actually 22 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: entering a new quarter of our season and we're really 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: excited to be taught to be introducing this new quarter 24 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: to y'all. Yeah, So we are entering our fem Tech 25 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: quarter and this is one of our favorite look at 26 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: topics to discuss. Um. We love fem tech and everything 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: that it means. So today's episode, Today's Interview is going 28 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: to be focusing on fem tech. So in the second 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: half of today's cap will be having a very special guest, 30 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Cecilia Flores of Coco Verde Vegan food, so look forward 31 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: to that. Yes, and just as a reminder, we are 32 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: still collaborating with The Blue Me, which is a Latina 33 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: owned and created marketplace of intimate care, health and wellness. 34 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: And you can use our code local to get your 35 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: sexual health products. And we still also have a really 36 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: fun collab with our favorite Latina owned makeup and beauty company, 37 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: Viva Cosmetics. Viva treats us so well, um and our 38 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: locomotives get your Viva fix, get your Viva lippies and 39 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: products using um well no, you get fift off the order. Yes, 40 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: if you if you order. Yeah, so if you use 41 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: the code look on what is you'll get off. That's 42 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: the cod That's so funny the way you said that. 43 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, we are you're tired. We're tired. We 44 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: basically did three interviews. We have been grinding, you know, 45 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: and we'll talk a little bit of what we've been doing. 46 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: But you know, we realize that we have been working 47 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: so much that we actually haven't even had time to 48 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: record a which is the irony of all of it, 49 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: which is wild. We've been putting out recently, like we 50 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: put out our NAT episode. We recorded that interview December 51 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: in December and just barely put it out. UM and 52 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: uh yeah, so we've been busy, as you know we do. 53 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: We hustle and we work a lot to keep the 54 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: podcast UM going to give it life. If you would 55 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: like to support us in one small way, you can 56 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: always hit the venmo at look at dash radio. Every 57 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: cent counts. Yeah. I actually wanted to read one from 58 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: one of our locomotive, Janelle. She wrote she made a 59 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: contribution to the Venmo and she put, I've seen how 60 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: hard you'll have been working, basically doing events every day, 61 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: flying around the US, and I know you'll have nine 62 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: of fives. Y'all are doing big. Thanks for yourself and 63 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: for our community. Thank you for everything you do. You're welcome. 64 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Thank you girl, thank you for the love. And and 65 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: as we talk about every gig that we that we have, 66 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: every university talk, every cent that UM we make doing 67 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: podcasts related events goes right back into the podcast. UM, 68 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: we are growing so much. We basically have a team 69 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: now for our live events, for our behind the scenes 70 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: photos and videos, UM, for other coming projects, very secret 71 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: projects that we cannot talk about, don't even but we 72 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: have a team of community, friends, family listeners that help 73 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: us to bring this project to life. So we do 74 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 1: our best to pay everyone who works on our project. 75 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: So if you'd like to support you know, those processes, 76 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: make sure you hit the venmo at lot dash radio. 77 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: Yes beautifully put thank you mala UM. So just to 78 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: recap on what we've been doing, as we mentioned, we 79 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: were at Cardinal Stritch in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and that was 80 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: just such a special special visit UM because it was 81 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: at a Catholic university. Good stuff, and you know, just 82 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: the Latino community there showed us so much love UM. 83 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the best parts of 84 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: going to different universities wherever it is that we go, 85 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 1: you know, being able to meet listeners. It's so fun. 86 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: It's so fun, and it's like such a privilege to 87 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: be able to share space with y'all. Like I think 88 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: we walk away like what like like astounded that, Like 89 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: y'all really just show up for us, you love us, 90 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: You bring us little presents. It's so cute. You know, 91 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: you take you want to take pictures with us. It's 92 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: just like blows my mind. Still, No, it's really sweet 93 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: and just there's so much creativity out there. Like and 94 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, we've never been to the Midwest before. I 95 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: had no idea there were so many Mexicans in Milwaukee. 96 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: There are so many tall Mexicans specifically, it's very confusing. Yes, 97 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: has a theory that it's the melt. How come all 98 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: our men out here are tiny, I'm just saying. And 99 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: the women over in Milwaukee too, they were tall. All 100 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: of them were tall. All the latin As were tall. 101 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: I was from few. They were towering over us. They 102 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: all looked like brown runway models. Yeah, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous. 103 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: When um Mikaela picked us up from the airport. I 104 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: was like, who is this God? We were like so 105 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: tired and crusty from the airplane and I was like, 106 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: what the hell? Of course our listener amazing, beautiful, So 107 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: thank you for having thank you for having us. And 108 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: then that same that same trip, we went to Colorado 109 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: gigging girl and it started snowing and I was so 110 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: stressed it was. It snowed on us in Colorado. We 111 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: were not prepared. I was not prepared. But it was cute. Yeah, 112 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: So we gave a keynote, yes we did, and it 113 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: was like a live podcast sort of keynote set up. 114 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: That was cute. It was really cute. Yeah, So if 115 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: you were there, thank you for coming out and sharing 116 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: space with us. And then we led a workshop, yes, 117 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: a fem defense workshop at both Cardinal Stritch and Colorado. 118 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: We did like a keynote and a workshop. We were busy, 119 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: back to back to back, we did back to basically 120 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: did four different things in two days, which is wild. 121 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: I don't know how we did it. It's a lot. 122 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: It took us like a while to recover, but we 123 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: didn't really recover. No, we didn't. I mean I think 124 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: we're still recovering what we can't recover, like there's no 125 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: rest day. There's no rest day. But it's funny because 126 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: Cardinal Stritch and Milwaukee of course, like my grandma Na 127 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: calls me, my god, Yeah, she's blowing you up. She 128 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: was blowing on my phone to tell me that, like 129 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: she's never coming home because I'm never there were her 130 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: exact words, and I'm like, Grandma, I'm in Milwaukee. I'm sorry, 131 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: I can't be at the house right now. She called 132 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: me again in the middle of our workshop at season, 133 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah she did. It's not just I was hilarious. It 134 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: was hilarious. Um, you know, Mamma. My Boo asked me 135 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: what it was like traveling with you. He was like, 136 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: he was like, what is it like traveling with Mama? 137 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: Like do you all get along? And I was like, 138 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: first of all, yes, it's number one. Yeah. Second of all, 139 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: we like are able to just go with the flow, 140 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: which I think is really important. Like when you're traveling 141 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: with someone, we're able to just like feel with the 142 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: like feeling the other's energy. Like Thursday night after Cardinal Stretch, 143 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: we were like, let's go to a brewery tomorrow. And 144 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: get a drink before and have lunch before we go 145 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: to the airport. We both woke up and we're like, 146 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: we cannot move, and so we got room service and 147 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: like and just had coffee in bed and like literally 148 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: laid there until we had to get up, and like 149 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, other people, it's like, well know, you said 150 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: we were going to do that, so now we have 151 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: to do it. You know, We're not like that. We're 152 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: very much going with the flow people. I feel like 153 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: you have we have to be. Yeah, when you're traveling 154 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: a lot has has one tour, has traveling a lot, 155 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: travels towards one towards one time. I know, you know, 156 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: but it made me think about, yes, we got for sure, 157 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: like all the traveling that she does are even just 158 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: all of our freelance, full time artists, you know, all 159 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: the traveling y'all do, like so much respect and love 160 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: for y'all. It's as travel. Yes, Yes, So we did 161 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: go to season. Another college. We did. We've done a 162 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: lot of colleges recently. Thank you for having us, Thank 163 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: you for inviting us out um season. We talked about 164 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: from defense and that was great. A lot of testimonies 165 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: from from head is there about street harassment that they've experienced. UM, 166 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: and we always appreciate when our look on what to share, 167 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's very vulnerable. Yeah, that was good. And 168 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: then just this week we were at another college. We 169 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: were at Claremont Claremont Graduate University, did a Q and 170 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: A Yeah, at the Queer Resource Center. That was cute. 171 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: It was really cute. It was definitely like one of 172 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: our most chill university I like it. I really liked it. Yeah, 173 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: they were just it was very just like you know, 174 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: sit on a sofa and just chat, chat chat, you know, 175 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: have a Q and A. It was really lovely because 176 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: usually we're like presenting or leading a workshop or we 177 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: have to prepare, you know, something ahead of time, and 178 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: this time we just showed up and just as people 179 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: had questions, the conversation flowed. And I really liked that format. Yeah, 180 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's very much like a podcast, you know, 181 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: and that's what the organizer, Janelle had said, like you'll 182 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: have conversations, so like, let's just have a conversation. So 183 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: I appreciated that. What else have we been doing. We've 184 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: been in the libraries all over l A, l A 185 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: public libraries doing our podcasting one on one workshops UM 186 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: through the l A Maide series. Yeah, so we were 187 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: recently at Sun Valley. Mala led that workshop UM by herself, 188 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: that's yeah, and that was part two of a three 189 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: part podcasting one o one workshops. So we're hoping that 190 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: by the end of this three part series those have 191 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: who have been coming are ready to record their first 192 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: episode and launched their podcasts. Yes, that's the goal. And 193 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: then we also co facilitated the podcasting one on one 194 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: workshop in Boil Heights at the Benjamin Franklin Library. And 195 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: as you all know, we UM love Boil Heights. You know, 196 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: we look at that was very much born here and 197 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: we have so much respect and admiration for this community. 198 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: So being able to give back, you know, it was 199 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: amazing and I think that, like for sure, there are 200 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: going to be new podcasts based off of that workshop. 201 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: Like the attendees just came and they were ready and 202 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: they had their outlines and they were like, we're ready 203 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: to start our podcasts. They Yeah. I I am noticing 204 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: that that in a lot of the workshops were doing 205 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: the ben Franklin one in particular, Like you're saying, there 206 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: are a lot of folks out there who have an 207 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: idea for a podcast that they've been sitting on, that 208 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: they've been mulling over, they've been thinking about this concept. 209 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: So I really like these workshops because it's a free, 210 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: highly accessible way to just like get that idea off 211 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: the ground and just do it. We just hope to 212 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: provide that space is like put pen to paper, put 213 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: your ideas into motion, and like let's get it started, yeah, 214 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: because sometimes it just takes that push, you know, and 215 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: really having like a soundboard that you can bounce ideas 216 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: off of. Yeah, And we're not done. So if you 217 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: haven't been able to make it out to one of 218 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: our l A Made Podcasting one oh one workshops, we 219 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: have some more coming up. So the third in our 220 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: three part series at the Sun Valley Branch is going 221 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: to be May nine, yes, at five thirty. And then 222 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: in South l A at the Exposition Park Regional Branch, 223 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: we will have a workshop at six pm on May two. 224 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: And we do have some other ones coming up actually 225 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: in the summer, so we will be in Little tokyo 226 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: Um in Venice, Cohena and a couple and maybe a 227 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: few more so Mill So keep your eye out for 228 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: all the library, I know, all our like all over. 229 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: It's amazing, Thank you for having thanks for having us UM. 230 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: In addition, we do want to go ahead and shout 231 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: out UM a really wonderful, amazing community partner, Therapy for 232 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: Latino X. So we talk a lot about mental health 233 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: and trauma on this podcast, and Therapy for Latin X 234 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: is a really great place UM where they use the 235 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: latest technology to make it as easy as possible to 236 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: find therapist, life coaches and emergency mental health centers. UM 237 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: a lot of services that are free, your low cost 238 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: community clinics. So, you know, because this is something we 239 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: talk about so much, we are not like licensed therapists, 240 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: so we always encourage our listeners to reach out, you know, 241 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: to find some professional help. If you need to check 242 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: out their online database. UM. We're all about the mental 243 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: health glow up. So check out Therapy for Latin X. Yeah, 244 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: it's such an incredible resource that UM is really curated 245 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: for our community and that hopefully UM you know, finding 246 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: a therapist of colors really difficult. The percentage is really low. 247 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: So to be able to have this database that you 248 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: can search and hopefully find the right therapist for you, 249 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: is it truly incredible and definitely a resource. Um we 250 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: we can take a we can take advantage of. So 251 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: thank you Therapy for Latin X for all that you 252 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: do in the service that you provide. Yes, yes, yes, 253 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: all right, So we are going to be jumping into 254 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: a song break before we have our interview with Coco 255 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: Verde Ceci. So we're super excited to be welcoming her 256 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: onto the podcast podcast Belly Ros and and and friends 257 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and friends and 258 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: and and and and and and friends and and send 259 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: and and friends and and and um um um um 260 00:14:53,520 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: um um from from from from but and alright, look 261 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: amotis and we're back from our break. We are really excited. 262 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: We have a very special guest on the podcast today 263 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: on the radio Phonic novella. We want to introduce Cecilia Flores. 264 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: Cecilia Flores was born and raised in Medford, Massachusetts. She's 265 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: currently a doctoral student in social policy at Brandeis University. 266 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: She received her bachelor's in American Studies and Community Health 267 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: in two thousand and twelve and her master's degree in 268 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: Educational Studies in two thousand thirteen. Right now, she's working 269 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: on pursuing a career in teaching and researching racial health inequities. 270 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: She wants to open a Latino vegan restaurant called Coco 271 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: Verde Vegan. Her fiancee UM and her started Coco Verde 272 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: as a blog. They've grown it into a catering company 273 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: and they're really excited to keep cultivating their online community. 274 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: In the meantime. Cecilia is also the mother of a 275 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: rapidly growing almost two year old toddler, and she's looking 276 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: forward to training and running for her next ultra marathon. 277 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: Cecilia truly does it all. I love Cecilia. I went 278 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: to college with Cecilia UM at Tufts. That's where we met. 279 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: So we want to welcome, welcome Cecilia of Coco Verde 280 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: Vigan onto the show. Cecilia, can you please say hi 281 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: and introduce yourself to our look on what is hello? 282 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: Thank you? Thank you both so much, so so much 283 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: for having me on. It's like it's truly an honor 284 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: UM to be with you and be sharing the space 285 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: with you all. And UM, I'm so excited to talk 286 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: more to talk um about Coco today, UM and talk 287 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more about you know, the the birth 288 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: of a new tradition really which that has that started 289 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: with Ivanna has really kind of transformed UM a lot 290 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: of our other my other relationships with my family members, 291 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: specifically my mom and my grandmother through this tradition of 292 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: cooking and loving on each other through food. Absolutely, thank 293 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: you so for being here. I'm so excited to learn 294 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: more about your business and your origin story and how 295 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: Gota came to be. So once again, thanks for being here. 296 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: And I think I think it's important to talk about 297 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: to Sicilian dominicana from Massachusetts. UM, and so Coverde, would 298 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: you say that this is is it vegan Dominican food 299 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: specifically or what type of cuisine are you serving up with? 300 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: Co Verte Definitely, Um. You know, I am Dominican after 301 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: Latina and grew up in a very Dominican household, and 302 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: so a lot of the cooking that I grew up 303 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: with was very, um, straight up Dominican food. And my 304 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: fiance is also Dominican, and so that's definitely where a 305 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: lot of our influences come from. UM. But in terms 306 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: of the menu, I would say it's very Dominican, but 307 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: then I also have like a lot of different tis 308 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: we do. UM A lot of different tackles. We do 309 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: like a lot of um. We love to take on 310 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: other flavors as well. And it's just interesting too. I 311 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, every time when I say, oh, like you 312 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: know Dominican or this is Dominican and that, but there's 313 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: so much um borrowing and transforming of flavors across different 314 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: Latin American countries and so it's almost like, you know, 315 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: we're just such a fusion. It's like when we were 316 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: doing me for Christmas and they were like someone was like, oh, 317 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: that looks like and I'm like, it's the Dominican version 318 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: of you know, like there's it's just there's so much 319 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: um sharing, which I really love. That's wonderful. I'm I'm 320 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: really curious. You mentioned your mother and your grandmother, and 321 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm wondering sort of what role you know, your mom 322 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: and your family, what world they've played in, like your 323 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: journey into becoming a business owner, a caterer, starting co 324 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: co verde Vegan. Yeah, I think so my family is 325 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: very female centric, very you know, the more it is 326 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: and my family are so freaking powerful and just like 327 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: such forces and it's just it's um an honor to 328 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: just kind of learn from them, and my grandmother in particular, 329 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: she passed away to it will be two years ago. Yeah, 330 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: because Vanna's too, she passed away. She got away right 331 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: before I got pregnant with Ivanna. And she was just 332 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, dis incredible, you know, Ladon, Yes, she just 333 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: like ran the whole family. And you know, my mom, 334 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: who is her daughter in law, actually learned to cook 335 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: from her. And so yeah, and it was just like 336 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: a very beautiful, you know, bonding thing, not like it's 337 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: not it wasn't like, oh, you need to learn how 338 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: to cook for my son. It was like, you know, 339 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: my mom didn't know how to cook. Her mom wasn't 340 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: really like a big cook, and she really wanted to 341 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: learn from her. And so they just you know, she 342 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: kind of like apprentice like my kids in and um, 343 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, I had so my my grandmother was this incredible, incredible, 344 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: incredible chef, and um, you know I was always in 345 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: the kitchen with her, and um, you know, I I 346 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: learned so much from her. She was such a very strong, 347 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: very strict woman's but also loved us so very much. 348 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, very typical to Latino families, 349 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: Like that's the way that we show our love is 350 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: you know, through food and through um, you know, feeding 351 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: each other. And so that was something that I learned 352 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: um from her, and UM has been has been really beautiful. 353 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: So my grandmother Uma, she never really got to try 354 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: our food because she passed away, UM like a little 355 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: bit before I went vegan. And but my mom, um, 356 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, we've had this incredible journey her and I 357 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: UM through it all, where at first she was very 358 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: like you know, I UM, She's like I don't know 359 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: what you're doing, Like what is this? Like what is 360 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: the vegan thing? And when? And like it was like 361 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: right like right before Thanksgiving that I decided to kind 362 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: of like do this glen into like a plant based diet, 363 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: and she was like get thanks, giv me and like 364 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: up in arms like what I Like, I don't you know, 365 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: I didn't understand anything and was so you know a 366 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: little bit um pushing it away because you know, I 367 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: think it was so new and and also because you know, 368 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: that was such a big way of like how she 369 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: shows love, it's through seating and so you know for 370 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: her to all of a sudden feel you know, I 371 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: can only imagine she must have felt so um pushed 372 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: away and like, you know, maybe like that, you know, 373 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: her food wasn't good enough for me anymore, even though 374 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's not what I wanted to convey 375 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: to her, but probably, you know, I imagine you know, 376 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: she probably had those kinds of feelings. But um, you know, 377 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: through through the journey and through talking and kind of 378 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: her seeing like what we're doing in the kitchen and 379 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: all of that, she's really transformed into like one of 380 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: our biggest cheerleaders. And you know, she tells, she tells 381 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: everybody about us and like tells people to follow us 382 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: on Instagram and she's all that, like how many followers 383 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: you have on Instagram? And like, you know, how are you? 384 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: How are you growing? Like who's who's ordering from you? 385 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: Like all this stuff, And so it's definitely been a 386 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: very UM transformative relationship and really, you know, taught me 387 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: how we can shift, Like traditions are beautiful and can 388 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: transform and they can adapt to UM and whether that's 389 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: like the storms of life. You know that I'm so 390 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: glad that you that you talked about that, that you 391 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: touched upon that relationship with your mother and also cuisine 392 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: transforming UM. So often we hear that Latinos or Latino 393 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: x folks can't be vegan, right, that our our foods 394 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: don't allow us to be vegan. Then we can't have 395 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: fun based diets because meat is so central to our diets, 396 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: which isn't actually true if you think about the way 397 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: our ancestors eight. So what would you say is your 398 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: response to folks that make that generalization that Latinos can't 399 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: be vegan? Yeah, I think that, you know, I think 400 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: it's just that, like I think we're training to think 401 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: of it as a white thing, and you know, the 402 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: the reality is that, like the a lot of the 403 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: people kind of in the spotlight are white. The vegan 404 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: community in general can be pretty hostile sometimes, which that's 405 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: like one of my biggest um issues. I guess it's 406 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: just like how abrasive things can be sometimes and how judgmental. Um. 407 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: But I think exactly what you were saying these I 408 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: think so so much of our food was vegan unintentionally 409 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: just you know, and but things have just been added in, 410 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: Like there there are a lot of the rices that 411 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: my mom makes, you know, to make like rokon Fido 412 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: or roomie or like the beans and things like that 413 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: that were Originally, like you know, over time people started 414 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: adding in like bits a vecon to like given more 415 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: flavor or like than that. But originally those things were 416 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: just you know, based on plants and even like that, 417 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: the conversations which it's like very um, it's a complicated 418 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: topic because you know, the quinola or quinola, it's it's 419 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: an indigenous it's indigenous to South America, you know, and 420 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: people see it as like a white thing, and it's like, no, 421 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: there are so many, so many of these um foods 422 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: and um products that are ours but are being presented 423 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: by white people and then being seen as white. And 424 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: so that part um feels like, you know a lot 425 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: of the work that I really want to do is 426 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: part of that kind of reclaiming and um kind of 427 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: dusting off that appropriation and um you know and showing 428 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: people that because our goal honestly, you know, I don't 429 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: have any illusions that everybody, oh my people are going 430 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: to see like our stuff and be like, oh my god, 431 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be like, yeah, I want to go vegan, 432 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't want to push anybody to 433 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: do anything, but I do want to show people that 434 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: it is possible to have an entirely plant based plate 435 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: and have it be delicious and have it be it 436 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: fighting and you know, and have people wanting more. And um, 437 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: you know that's really that's really what we're all about. Beautiful, beautiful. 438 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: And you know we in previous couples, we've talked about 439 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: fem tech, and we've talked about cooking and our traditional 440 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: meals as being a type of science, right, and that 441 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: when you look at a plate, a traditional plate and 442 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: it has rice, it has beans, it has maybe no 443 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: palis right. That just didn't come together by accident. That's 444 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: hundreds and even thousands of years of our ancestors testing 445 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: and different combinations of foods to find out what sustains 446 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: us and what our cells and our bodies need and 447 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: what combination right. And I would love to hear from 448 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: you sort of how maybe you've come upon the fem 449 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: tech in your cooking. Absolutely so I, um, you know, 450 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: I have the vivid memory I was maybe I don't know, 451 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: like ten or twelve. Um, you know, sitting in the kitchen, 452 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: my grandmother's sitting from Gender Republic, and I watching her 453 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: drink this can of Budweiser and she's making an assle foul, 454 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: which is like a soup with rice kind of built 455 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: into it. And um, she takes the tip of a Budweiser, 456 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: she takes the soup, and then she just kind of 457 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: pours like half the can from far into the soup, 458 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: and you know, she's balancing the flavors. And I'm just 459 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: like sitting there, like, why are you doing right but 460 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: putting beer and soup? Like you know, I didn't get 461 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: it at the time. Um, you know, now after having um, 462 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, learning more and kind of having these revelations, 463 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: I like I understand and um, you know there's that 464 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: new uh show on nut like the Salt, Fat, acid 465 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: heat I might have got, but like I love that show. 466 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: I love first of all, I love watching her eat 467 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: because she just looks like he makes everything look like 468 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: so delicious. But I also just really love how she 469 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: talks about that balance, you know, finding the right balance 470 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: of like you know, needing that acid to kind of 471 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: writing up like you know, really heavy dishes and needing 472 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, the right amount of salt and how salt 473 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: can be transformative and all that stuff, and so um, 474 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: baking especially is one chemistry and cooking, you know, cooking 475 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: is is part of a process like that too. It's 476 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: very it's much more scientific, I think that than we 477 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: give it credit. And I think, you know so many 478 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: it's just one thrusting thing for me is just how 479 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: how difficult it can be to to kind of develop 480 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: those flavors. But I do think that everybody everybody can cook. 481 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: I have like a very ratitui uh thought thought on that. 482 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: But I do think that you know, in traditional in 483 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: traditional kitchens like at home, it's all the women that 484 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: are cooking. But we've created um hostile environments and in 485 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: traditional and restaurants here where women are not able a 486 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: lot of the time to take um, take the leaves 487 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: and to take charge. And I think, um, that's something 488 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: that that I grapple with a lot. I've never worked 489 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: in like a but uh, from what I had from 490 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: other people, I think it's just um, you know, I 491 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: think we have to go through a process where we 492 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: can allow um but a part of the conversation and 493 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: and also um kind of make way. You know, amazing 494 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: chefs from home, Like I talked about my will all 495 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: the time, like she was an incredible chef. She didn't 496 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: go to any school, you know, she learned at her 497 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: own way, and I think that that's a really beautiful 498 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: thing that we don't really um talked about, and we 499 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: don't really do a good job of honoring you. You know, 500 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: you cut out a little bit right now, that last sentences, 501 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: that part about your grandmother or not necessarily being a 502 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: trained chef. Yeah, absolutely so, I um, I think that, 503 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: you know. And it's interesting because even in our bio 504 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: on the on the website we I have, I wrote, like, 505 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: my Fancey is a classically trained staff that you know, 506 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: and he studied out the Porto Blue And I think 507 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: that you know, we did was just like really cool. 508 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm really amazing, and I'm not really proud of them 509 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: for it. But I also think that, you know, there 510 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: are so many amazing and incredible chefs like my grandmother. 511 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: I think of her as an incredible chef. But of 512 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: course she didn't go to you know, a fancy school. 513 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: Um you know, she she learned on her own. And 514 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: I think that that is something um so beautiful and 515 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: something that should be we should do a much better 516 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: job of honoring. And you know now, and it has 517 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: me thinking like if using spices and seasonings and putting 518 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: together a dish is a chemistry and it's a science. 519 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: Then when we joke about white people having bland food, 520 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: but we're really commenting on is that history. Believe they 521 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: never mastered that science and that chemistry. They never got it. 522 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: They never got it down. They never figured out the 523 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: science of cooking, which is fascinating to frame it in 524 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: that way. You know, absolutely absolutely. You know, one thing 525 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: my mom always told me, like when you bake, She 526 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: was like, you know, measurements don't really matter, but when 527 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: you bake in one matters because one it really is 528 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: a chemistry. She and she would always tell me, if 529 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: you're off even by a little bit, your bond will 530 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: not come out the way it's supposed to come out, 531 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: your whatever, like it is not going to come out 532 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: the way you wanted to write. Like cooking, I love it, 533 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: and like I said, like I you know, I love 534 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: that movie that Disney or pick Star whatever movie. It 535 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: is the ratitute movie with the little mouth that is 536 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: like the shaff or whatever, and everybody can cause like 537 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: I love that and I really believe in that. I like, 538 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: I really love it. Um and love encouraging people at 539 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: the kind of um you know, just think of you'd 540 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: just make their own way cooking, because cooking us a 541 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: lot more forgiving than baking. And you know, cooking you 542 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,239 Speaker 1: can add a little bit more sasta and you can 543 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, brighten up the dish with like a little 544 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: bit more a city or whatever. You can usually you know, 545 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: fix your way out of a mistake. But with baking, 546 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it will you know, if you 547 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: don't put in enough baking powder, your your cake will 548 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: not rise if you don't. It's like everything is so 549 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: um intricately to connect it, which is just like so amazing, 550 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: and you know, it's just it's sometimes they step back 551 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: and it just blows my mind, like you know, who 552 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: was like who was the first person to say, you know, 553 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna exist this because this is going to be better, 554 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: or I'm gonna you know, use this ingredient because it's 555 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna do this. And you know, especially 556 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: in vegan baking, it's like, you know, the m the 557 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: speaking power is like some mean writing agents and like creating. 558 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: You know, if you go back to your like third 559 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: grade volcanoes and science clash, like it's it's activated by 560 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: the apple cider vinegar that you use, like you know, 561 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: so it's very it's just it's an amazing thing, like 562 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: how connected it is, and it's just amazing to think 563 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: about all of the women and all the laborers within 564 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: the kitchen that have really um have paved the way 565 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: and have you know, created these templates for us to 566 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: use and also to um expand upon. Thank you so 567 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: much for bringing in that that perspective um your story 568 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: and your journey. I'm really excited. I mean, like Cecilia, 569 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: I've always looked up to you because you just like 570 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: do it all. I mean, you're an ultra marathon wrinter 571 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: slash vegan like chef, slash mom like slash PhD candidate, 572 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: Like how I can literally honestly don't know how I 573 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: do it some days either, I'm like I don't know, 574 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: But like I was, my sister was like, like, you've 575 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: seem overwhelmed, Like you know, is there anything that you 576 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: She's a social worker, so she's so perfect and she's 577 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: always like checking in with me. Of course, i feel 578 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: like it's anything that you would like want to let go, 579 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I'm not letting go of anything, right, 580 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it all, and I'm just gonna 581 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: figure it out and it'll be fine. Yes, yes, Well, 582 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: I love you, I love what you're doing. I love 583 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: Coco Vede. I hope to try your food one day. 584 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: I need to. I'm gonna be out there for my 585 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: five year reunion in the summer, so I'm gonna have 586 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: to stop fine out here you absolutely, yeah, like need 587 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: to have you over and I need to to um 588 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: to give you some some food. Oh yeah out there. Okay. 589 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: You can feel free to to edit out if you 590 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: want to. But I just one thing that I feel 591 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: like veganism is so um intimidating to people because of 592 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: um one of the things that we said earlier, just 593 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: how abrasive some vegans can be in judgmental and all that. 594 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of times people forget 595 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: the fact that all all of us are implicit in 596 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 1: you know, capitalism, in in these systemic structures, were actively 597 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: fighting against it. And I feel like it's so a 598 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: lot of times people are you know, chastising vegans are 599 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: chastising other people for you know, consuming meat or consuming 600 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: these other these products, and um, you know, I I 601 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: just feel like that it gives the bad name some 602 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: of us. Some of it is like rightly earned for 603 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: some people. But I also feel like there's not enough 604 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: emphasis on the fact that you know, just because you are, 605 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: oh you're not participating in animal cruelty, you're still participating. 606 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: Unless you're growing your own roots and vegetables, you're still 607 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: participating in you know, the farming system, and understanding how 608 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: specifically it's almost always you know, Latino Latin X folks 609 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: most of the time undocumented, you know, all of the 610 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: time mistreated and and not paid enough and not given 611 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: enough UM support instructures and even you know, good working conditions. 612 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: And so I think that that um, part of my 613 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: part of my miss and is to really is obviously 614 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: to work on that and to you know, fight for 615 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: food rights in general, but also to um, you know 616 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: a blood everybody in their own food choices, food choices, 617 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: in their own food journey. Yes, thank you for that. 618 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: To hear that very important. Yeah, like in in the 619 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: Monster of Capitalism, there's nothing that's ethical right, and we 620 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: do absolutely in whatever way that we can. Absolutely, And 621 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: it's true, I'm not vegan, I'm not even close to 622 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: be vegetarian, um, but I have even I'm not in 623 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: those worlds or circles at all, but I've seen that 624 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: really toxic like vegan rhetoric on the internet, you know, 625 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: so I hear what you're saying, and I've seen it, 626 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: and it does leave a bad taste in one's mouth. 627 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: But I can also appreciate that, you know, there are 628 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: efforts on behalf of black and brown people, especially Black Americans, 629 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: to reclaim farming, reclaim vegetables, you know, reclaim cooking in 630 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: the connection to the soil that was definitely you know, 631 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: has been stripped away, um from from lots of communities. 632 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: So absolutely, everything that you're doing is so important, and 633 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm really happy to see that. It's like, you know, 634 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: I saw you got a feature, you had some media, 635 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: some press not too long ago around co Verde, So 636 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: that's awesome. Yeah, it's been a really big honor and 637 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm really excited to keep sharing and 638 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: to um, you know, keep showing people what we're doing 639 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: and you know, and and kind of spreading that positivity 640 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: and enjoy I'm all about the Marie Condo. We were 641 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: just talking about Marie Condo. I am tiding up and 642 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: organizing my life. Yes, very she's our modern Mary Poppins 643 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: Marine condos. The modern Mary Poppins Well, Cecilia, Um, where 644 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: can our listeners find you? Where can they follow you? 645 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: Where can they learn more about your work? And co 646 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: co verde? Yeah so absolutely so. We are across the 647 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: board Facebook, Instagram, UM, and Twitter. We're at cover Vegan 648 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: UM and our website is scogan dot com. And I 649 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: love I love packing to people. Some people sometimes CMUs 650 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: and are like, oh, I don't know if you're good, 651 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I will answer. I love send us 652 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: a method good to talk to us. I love to 653 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 1: be in conversation and um, you know I'm a community 654 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: organizer by training, so I love to be in community 655 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: with people. So UM, reach out to us, get in touch. Amazing. 656 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being on the podcast, for 657 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: talking to us and sharing your store with us. We 658 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: know our listeners are look on what is there going 659 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: to love it absolutely so, thank you so much and 660 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: we will talk to you soon. Yes, thank to soon. 661 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: Sending love to you, but have a great rest of 662 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: the afternoon. 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