Speaker 1: This is How Men Think with broths Like and Gavin
Speaker 1: de grab and I heard Radio Podcasts. Welcome to another
Speaker 1: episode of How Men Think. My name is brooks Like.
Speaker 1: And last week we had an amazing guest on, Mr
Speaker 1: Tyler Rich and we answered listener questions. So we answered
Speaker 1: your questions and we love doing those shows. And this
Speaker 1: week we have another special guest on to answer more
Speaker 1: of your questions. Last week, it was a lot of
Speaker 1: questions from listeners that were about fatherhood, and neither Tyler
Speaker 1: nor I were fathers, so we thought, to serve the
Speaker 1: mission of the community, we need to bring an out
Speaker 1: standing father on to answer some of these questions. So
Speaker 1: we have an amazing guest. Everybody is gonna just fan
Speaker 1: girl when I say this name. Here at the moment,
Speaker 1: we have an amazing guest on with us. He is
Speaker 1: a father, but he has many more things than that
Speaker 1: as well. Um. He is a music superstar, a living legend.
Speaker 1: He's also an actor, host, a Broadway star, a voiceover artist,
Speaker 1: a dancer, media personality, everything you name it. This man
Speaker 1: is from the band in Sync. His name is Mr Joey,
Speaker 1: but tone Joey. What's up, Buddy Man? Doing all right?
Speaker 1: I'm great, and I guarantee listening in their cars or
Speaker 1: in their homes, that the ladies are just screaming and
Speaker 1: going wild. Well, hopefully that screaming to lead in their cars.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get the little little deaf there,
Speaker 1: so make sure it's a a relatively nice scream, but
Speaker 1: not as loud. I hope that loud. You guys deserve
Speaker 1: that you deserve that you are a living legend. Dude.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna get any girl in my phone.
Speaker 1: Any friends of mine are gonna send me text messages
Speaker 1: as soon as this is over it. I'm here to
Speaker 1: help anytime. If I'm here to help, if you need anything,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. No, it's it's great to be
Speaker 1: on man, I really appreciate it. It's interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: from from different perspectives from different man and it's it's
Speaker 1: fun to be on something like this to get my
Speaker 1: perspectives appreciate again. Yeah, and I'm looking forward to getting
Speaker 1: your perspective as well, because I've said on to show
Speaker 1: many times, I think the greatest, my ultimate destiny, the
Speaker 1: greatest thing I could ever do in my life is
Speaker 1: be a loving husband and a loving father and I'm
Speaker 1: not yet a father, so I always appreciate when we
Speaker 1: have people who are fathers on the show. So I
Speaker 1: get to ask to ask questions and and sort of
Speaker 1: just armed myself to become a father and prepared to
Speaker 1: become a father. But also serves our community amazingly as well.
Speaker 1: I also just want to tip my cap to user,
Speaker 1: because you are a man of many hats um, and
Speaker 1: it's impressive to see you go across industry and have
Speaker 1: so many talents. You're obviously known as a performer, but
Speaker 1: you have so many other talents. Yeah, it's it's nice
Speaker 1: that so far someone has not told me I sucked yet,
Speaker 1: which is good. That's always a good It's always a
Speaker 1: good indication that you're doing something right. Um. Also, I
Speaker 1: shall say, um, I don't know if you remember it
Speaker 1: or not, but we met before. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we actually personally met, but we were in the same
Speaker 1: room two of our friends, very very very good dancers
Speaker 1: got married. Yeah you got up and sang, um that
Speaker 1: was that was and Sasha probably then yeah, buddy, if
Speaker 1: you got up and saying and you crushed it and
Speaker 1: you lit the whole fun it was. So that night
Speaker 1: was so fun. That was a lot that that was
Speaker 1: some of it. Tordsend was a little bit of a
Speaker 1: bull but yes, it was fun. Nonetheless, UM, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you knew what happened to me that night. Um,
Speaker 1: so everybody in the room is professional dancers, including yourself
Speaker 1: being on Dancing with the Stars. I think you were
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, right yea, So, um, everybody in
Speaker 1: the room is a professional dancer, with the exception of
Speaker 1: like three of us. And I put on my suit,
Speaker 1: put on this nice black suit to come to this wedding,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, my suit is a little tight.
Speaker 1: You know, this was a suit from when I was
Speaker 1: playing hockey, when I was a little bit leaner. Now
Speaker 1: I'm a little stronger. So I'm like whatever, I'll wear
Speaker 1: the suit. I'm out on the dance for it's midnight,
Speaker 1: just dancing. All of a sudden, it ripped the whole
Speaker 1: ass right out of this, right out of the the
Speaker 1: whole ask just goes right around right for the watching.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, dear, gone, nothing wrong with that. Especially
Speaker 1: in front of dances. Everybody were like cool, you're up
Speaker 1: to pants keeping going. So I got a quick uber
Speaker 1: home change pants and kind of quick uber. No, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's awesome. Hey, nobody knew that
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I only missed about twenty thirty minutes, but um,
Speaker 1: you rock the mic that night then it was It
Speaker 1: was fun man, Yeah, it's it's you know, it's always
Speaker 1: fun to do stuff like that, especially you know when
Speaker 1: you're you know when when my fourtast is mostly performing
Speaker 1: and singing, and you know, with Dancing the Stars, I
Speaker 1: really don't get a chance to do that in a sense,
Speaker 1: but people see me in performing. So but it's kind
Speaker 1: of fun to be able to do that for your
Speaker 1: friends that are having a wedding and you know, you've
Speaker 1: you've you've grown to love and and and it's just
Speaker 1: fun to be able to do something like that, to
Speaker 1: be able to give the gift like that. So, hey,
Speaker 1: it's such it's I think it's soutful to use your
Speaker 1: gift to give that gift. Yeah. No, hey, I tried
Speaker 1: it as much as I can. If I can do it,
Speaker 1: I'll do you know, I'll do it. You know. Super cool.
Speaker 1: So I also I want to get into more of
Speaker 1: what you're doing as well. We'll get into that later
Speaker 1: in the show. Because you, like I said, you are
Speaker 1: your whole thing. You're doing the man many things. You
Speaker 1: have a new show, common knowledge, a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: going on in your world. So we'll get to that later.
Speaker 1: But to serve our community first, I want to ask
Speaker 1: you some questions, some fatherhood questions. Um, you have two daughters,
Speaker 1: ten year old and a ten year old. Um yea,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you want to mention the
Speaker 1: names or speak about the minute. Chloe Chloe's a ten
Speaker 1: year old. Brianna is my nineteen year old. Brianna is
Speaker 1: just she finished already her first year of college, which
Speaker 1: is crazy to say and have that come out of
Speaker 1: my mouth. Uh, She's gonna be starting her second year
Speaker 1: coming up, I believe at the end of August. And
Speaker 1: my my ten year old is starting fourth grade uh
Speaker 1: in August as well. So they're they're both they're they're
Speaker 1: definitely gonna be attending school. UM. I know with the
Speaker 1: whole thing with COVID and everything. I think Brianna is
Speaker 1: she goes to Michigan State. She'll be going there for
Speaker 1: I think up until December and then comes back for
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. And since my old my
Speaker 1: little one, I should say, goes to private school for
Speaker 1: schooling they're doing where they can either go to school
Speaker 1: or opt out of being in school. So what we
Speaker 1: want to do is for my daughters, what we're gonna
Speaker 1: what we are doing. What we're doing is we're gonna
Speaker 1: have our kid, Chloe, Chloe going to school. And if
Speaker 1: and you know, and if things aren't that great or
Speaker 1: the case would be, we can always pull her out
Speaker 1: worst case scenario and still be two at home, but
Speaker 1: we'd rather her get the education in the hands on
Speaker 1: things because now the classes are going to be even smaller,
Speaker 1: which is great, I think, obviously with the exception of
Speaker 1: hopefully for everybody's social distancing, and they're putting plexical I mean,
Speaker 1: it's crazy what they're doing, but they're trying to make
Speaker 1: it as as normal as they can. So it's been
Speaker 1: a it's been interesting to deal with that, especially right
Speaker 1: when the pandemic hit and you know, I'm not doing
Speaker 1: fourth grade math anymore. And my kid comes up to
Speaker 1: me and says, hey, Dad, don't know how to do this,
Speaker 1: And I look at her, going, uh, I don't know either.
Speaker 1: Let me find out. You know, you figure it out
Speaker 1: or you asked the teacher. You know, I asked my brother.
Speaker 1: Is talking my brother about it too. He's got two kids,
Speaker 1: and he said he wants to put his son back
Speaker 1: in school in the fall too. So it seems like
Speaker 1: a lot of places are leaving you the option. Um,
Speaker 1: I would probly do the same, try and get them
Speaker 1: back in school, just to be the environment and being
Speaker 1: around their friends. And life's gonna look a little bit different. Um,
Speaker 1: But that's okay, you know, I think so right right now,
Speaker 1: it's again it's just adjusting and hopefully getting back again.
Speaker 1: Nothing's ever gonna be hard to percent normal. I don't
Speaker 1: think back to normal percent, but again, there will be
Speaker 1: some sort of normal ce on certain things in the
Speaker 1: way they're going to handle things, I'm sure. And just again,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that like, Okay, let's try
Speaker 1: to reassess the figure out what we have to do
Speaker 1: and how we have to do it to make things
Speaker 1: work to where we get these kids in education. Yeah, wow, amazing,
Speaker 1: awesome brother, Okay, we have we have some questions for you, buddy,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to your answers. And just like
Speaker 1: doing everything from a father, so our our producer engineer, extraordinary,
Speaker 1: Mr Easton is awaiting in the wings with the question Easton,
Speaker 1: what do you got for us? Buddy? All right, let's
Speaker 1: get into it. Uh. This first one is from Clara.
Speaker 1: She says, guys with kids, how are you surviving this time? Marriage, dating, parenting?
Speaker 1: It's all too much? Great question. Yeah, it's th one,
Speaker 1: but like how we're very guys with kids, kids come first.
Speaker 1: I don't know what does it look like for you?
Speaker 1: It is well for me, it's it's for people. For
Speaker 1: for men that are going through what I have gone
Speaker 1: through and things that I'm going through now, it's it is.
Speaker 1: It is tough. I ain't gonna lie. It's not that easy.
Speaker 1: I mean right now, you know. Finally add percent been divorced.
Speaker 1: I've been married. I was married for almost dated for
Speaker 1: almost ten years and almost married for ten years. So
Speaker 1: I was with with with my ex Kelly for almost
Speaker 1: twenty years. Uh. Been has been separated for about two
Speaker 1: years now. It's been over about six years now. Been
Speaker 1: divorced in a sense separating divorce from about five to
Speaker 1: six years now. But it's crazy because it's good and bad.
Speaker 1: It's really weird because for what we have now is
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of times I do travel, and
Speaker 1: I do work a lot, and mostly my ex will
Speaker 1: take care of the girls because I do travel. Now
Speaker 1: that my other one obviously is older, she is obviously
Speaker 1: a lot more free. She's nineteen, she goes to college. Okay,
Speaker 1: with that, get to understand that it's a little bit
Speaker 1: easier with the ten year old I right now. We've
Speaker 1: been doing it since the pandemic happened. You know, there
Speaker 1: were times, like I said, when I work now that
Speaker 1: things haven't been happening, and I haven't been working. I've
Speaker 1: been taking care of my kids two weeks, two weeks on,
Speaker 1: two weeks off, so I'll have my girls, I'll have
Speaker 1: Chloe two weeks on, and like now, the next two
Speaker 1: weeks I have off, I don't have them. And also
Speaker 1: on top of that, I also have a girlfriend that
Speaker 1: I've been dating from the past four and a half
Speaker 1: five years almost now almost six actually, uh, And it's
Speaker 1: been crazy because the fact that you know, she lives
Speaker 1: in l A. And everything's been going on in l A.
Speaker 1: She just a couple about a month or so ago.
Speaker 1: She actually flew to spend time with her mom, who
Speaker 1: lives about an hour so away from me. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of a good thing for me in the best
Speaker 1: of both worlds. But the hardest part, I would say
Speaker 1: honestly is really juggling that time, but also on top
Speaker 1: of that how to avoid and deal with the pandemic
Speaker 1: and not you know, okay, my say friends is okay,
Speaker 1: my girlfriend's been with her mom, but her mom has
Speaker 1: been out maybe somewhere, so I can't really be with
Speaker 1: her all the time. So it's a lot of face
Speaker 1: time and a lot of conversation, um, you know, dealing
Speaker 1: with the kids. It's it's that day to day basis.
Speaker 1: And again, like I was about to say earlier, is
Speaker 1: with the math problems. There's certain things that I don't
Speaker 1: know and I'm like, Chloe, I don't know what to
Speaker 1: tell you, like I don't even know the answer or
Speaker 1: how to do this. So and the nice things about
Speaker 1: is the teachers have been really helpful during obviously the
Speaker 1: school year, so they've been really helpful with the with
Speaker 1: the with the point of like you know, give us
Speaker 1: the call or let us know, you know what, we'll
Speaker 1: try to help you out one on one. So it's
Speaker 1: been a crazy thing for me to juggle because I mean,
Speaker 1: think about it, you know, get people always say celebrities, Oh,
Speaker 1: you know, you got it easy, and you know you've
Speaker 1: got tons of money and you can do this. Okay,
Speaker 1: I get that. But when you have a divorce, when
Speaker 1: you're dealing with kids, when you're dealing with a girlfriend,
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with your own personal things in your
Speaker 1: personal life, and then you go, oh, I have I
Speaker 1: have to deal with a career on top of that.
Speaker 1: It does take a lot of um compartmentalizing, putting things
Speaker 1: in certain places and going okay, I have to deal
Speaker 1: with this right now, and then I gotta put that
Speaker 1: away and deal and put a new hat on and
Speaker 1: put the you know, the dad hat, and what do
Speaker 1: I have to do with that? You know? It's it
Speaker 1: is so crazy. It's like eighty million things. Especially in
Speaker 1: my ten year old now, it's more or less of going,
Speaker 1: you know, to give you a crazy day, it would
Speaker 1: be like, all right, we're getting up, you do the breakfast,
Speaker 1: you do this, get your bed, I gotta get ready
Speaker 1: for this. Oh my gosh, you're going through puberty now,
Speaker 1: and your arm pits of this and that. How do
Speaker 1: I have this conversation with you when you're ten years
Speaker 1: old and you're a girl, But you need to trim that.
Speaker 1: But how do I tell you that? And I'm a god,
Speaker 1: it is insane. And that's just at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the morning, you know, and then you gotta go throughout
Speaker 1: the whole day of other things as well. So it's
Speaker 1: the question for me to compartmentalize like that. Do you
Speaker 1: do you like, actually make a schedule, like a home
Speaker 1: schedule like before nine I'm I'm horrible with schedules. I
Speaker 1: will say that because even now me right now, and
Speaker 1: I'm learning more and more as I do it, because
Speaker 1: back in the day with the STINC, I was always scheduled.
Speaker 1: It was a schedule to do everything you hate you
Speaker 1: do this. Now that I have my own time, I
Speaker 1: can make my own schedule, I tend to be more
Speaker 1: relaxed a little bit more. But I will say, especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to the kids, I make sure their
Speaker 1: stuff is first and prior before anything that I do. Really,
Speaker 1: majority of the time, it's always are you at a
Speaker 1: dentist appotment or you got at school, you got this,
Speaker 1: you got that? Let us let that's my that's my
Speaker 1: goal for that day. You know, a lot of times,
Speaker 1: especially for me, again, it is a little bit easier
Speaker 1: for me because when I am home, I don't work
Speaker 1: as much period. But now that things can slow down,
Speaker 1: I haven't done correct. So it's like almost my whole
Speaker 1: year as a wash. And it's like, now, you know,
Speaker 1: next year is going to be definitely different because it's
Speaker 1: picking up the pieces as far as working. Common knowledge
Speaker 1: is coming back from that kind of stuff. Again, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be in California. How do I deal with my
Speaker 1: kids and that as well. So it's again it's a
Speaker 1: very um it's never a dull moment. It's never the
Speaker 1: same for parents that know that you know, and obviously
Speaker 1: we want consistency, we want repetition because it helps them
Speaker 1: in their daily life. I think as they get older
Speaker 1: to have some sort of consistency in their life. I
Speaker 1: think for kids, you know, and even though you know,
Speaker 1: my stuff is a little out whacked, but there is consistency.
Speaker 1: Every two two weeks, she goes to to to Kelly
Speaker 1: every two we every you know, the next two weeks
Speaker 1: she's with me, you know, and we we we kind
Speaker 1: of make sure we And that's the other thing I
Speaker 1: make sure I talked to Kelly on getting the same
Speaker 1: uh regiment. If you will you know what kind of
Speaker 1: foods do they like? What kind of things? I don't
Speaker 1: just go off of what I like and what I do,
Speaker 1: but I'm always like, you know, what are the things
Speaker 1: that they really like and really want to do. So
Speaker 1: we're on the same page and when they come over here,
Speaker 1: they're getting the same exact kind of thing as they
Speaker 1: are in the other household. Because again, my daughter Chloe's
Speaker 1: on the spectrum of autism, not that she's not that
Speaker 1: she's not completely disconnected or you know, not verbal. She's verbal,
Speaker 1: and she she does talk to people. She doesn't make
Speaker 1: a whole lot of my contactical at times, but there
Speaker 1: are certain things that do not connect, and that's also
Speaker 1: puts a strain on people. And how do you deal
Speaker 1: with that and figure that out? And for a while,
Speaker 1: I had so much patience when I was young. As
Speaker 1: I got older for some reason, I'm like, I have
Speaker 1: no patience for this anymore. And then as I'm getting
Speaker 1: even older now you start to realize, Okay, what's the
Speaker 1: balance of I have patience for this, but I don't
Speaker 1: have patience for this right now. But I need to
Speaker 1: take a time to figure it out. You know, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing the more. The more dads I talked
Speaker 1: to him, we have a couple on the show, Um,
Speaker 1: they'll all reiterate the same thing, and it sounds like, what, Um,
Speaker 1: what you're saying is that there's no perfect dad, there's
Speaker 1: no perfect way to do it. But we no book,
Speaker 1: there's no real book. We leave with our hearts and
Speaker 1: we try the best we can and you're gonna make
Speaker 1: mistakes except that and know that. And um, but I've
Speaker 1: every dad that I've ever met, I've never questioned their
Speaker 1: heart and their intention. But they all say, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: not perfect, but I love my kids and they'll do
Speaker 1: anything for him. So oh yeah, I mean, you know what.
Speaker 1: And it's so weird and and it's it's odd for
Speaker 1: me to say this, and I even say and it's
Speaker 1: not odd for me I should say. But what what
Speaker 1: I'm about to say is is definitely something that I
Speaker 1: have learned over the years later on especially being a
Speaker 1: divorce family. And even if you're not divorced and you're
Speaker 1: still obviously what your spouse and everything is going great,
Speaker 1: give the time for your spouse, whether it be the
Speaker 1: male or female or whatever. What you're under your roof
Speaker 1: is give that time to say, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the kids or the kid or
Speaker 1: whatever for the weekend, or you know what, you go somewhere,
Speaker 1: give each spouse a chance to kind of recharge their batteries,
Speaker 1: because nobody's just like you said, nobody's perfect. We get angry,
Speaker 1: we can do this, We do that. We all need
Speaker 1: downtime to ourselves, whether that be either watching TV all day,
Speaker 1: going to play golf, going to a hotel and reading
Speaker 1: a book, whatever. Then that sense maybe in your zen,
Speaker 1: I think it does give the other person a break.
Speaker 1: And I never noticed that when I was younger, because
Speaker 1: I was always traveling within saying my ex was always
Speaker 1: with my with the kids, and it was always you know,
Speaker 1: well the kids did this and this and that, and
Speaker 1: I'm always like, y, yeah, but you can deal with it.
Speaker 1: And it's it's not that easy. Everybody there. People realized
Speaker 1: and don't really think that, especially especially when when I
Speaker 1: got divorced. I became mom and dad when I got home.
Speaker 1: So when I when I'm home by myself, I'm like, like,
Speaker 1: legit part of my friendsman, I'm like, oh, I gotta cook,
Speaker 1: I gotta get them ready for school. I have to
Speaker 1: make sure, the house is you know, livable. Let's be real,
Speaker 1: you know. And again, and I'm not the type of
Speaker 1: person that's gonna be like, oh well, I have maids
Speaker 1: to do this, I have people to do that. I
Speaker 1: don't do that kind of crap. I mean, even when
Speaker 1: we had our children, I had a babysitter. I never
Speaker 1: had a nanny. And that's just that's just our personal preference. Again,
Speaker 1: everybody is different and the way they were raised, it's
Speaker 1: just different things. And the way I was raised, you know,
Speaker 1: I was raised by my mom and dad, and that's
Speaker 1: the way it was. Do we have babysiting, We have babysitters,
Speaker 1: but we were just you know, it's the way we
Speaker 1: do it. And again, it's like for me, it's very um,
Speaker 1: it was definitely a challenging thing. But I I tell
Speaker 1: all people that have been married or still married or whatever,
Speaker 1: give some time for your spouse to take a break
Speaker 1: to disconnect. Uh and trust me, that person will thank you,
Speaker 1: but maybe not by saying thank you, but you'll notice
Speaker 1: in the how they react to certain things, you know.
Speaker 1: And again, I know it's tough sometimes and it's not easy,
Speaker 1: and you know, we go through different things or who
Speaker 1: the hell want to want to watch the kids seven?
Speaker 1: You know, when you're working all day Monday through Friday,
Speaker 1: nine to five. You know, I get I get it.
Speaker 1: But you know what, in the long run, it does
Speaker 1: pay off to do stuff like that, whether you're divorced
Speaker 1: or whether you're still together. Amazing, man, amazing. Eastern Question
Speaker 1: number two. All right, this is from Erica. How do
Speaker 1: men feel about dating when they have kids from our
Speaker 1: previous relationship? Do they feel it's important to take the
Speaker 1: time to introduce kids to the new relationship. It's tough.
Speaker 1: My rule for what what we did, believe it or not.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is gonna work for everybody,
Speaker 1: but I can only speak for myself. Is we had
Speaker 1: it to where we? You know, again, people are still dating,
Speaker 1: and when you get divorced, people date other people and
Speaker 1: you don't never know that person is going to be
Speaker 1: there all the time. And you don't want to introduce
Speaker 1: your kids to somebody that maybe for there for one
Speaker 1: week and then a new person is gonna be there
Speaker 1: the next week. You know, you don't You don't want
Speaker 1: to kind of have that That thing so mine was
Speaker 1: is after two years of dating, is when I introduced
Speaker 1: my kids to my girlfriend. Not I waited almost two years.
Speaker 1: I waited just to know that it's going to be right.
Speaker 1: That's the difference, because again, somebody can be there for
Speaker 1: you know, six months, and everything could be great, but
Speaker 1: something can go left field, and say, for instance, that
Speaker 1: you know that child has an attachment to that that
Speaker 1: that other person now and becomes some sort of a
Speaker 1: stepmother or stepfather, and then all of a sudden things
Speaker 1: don't work out and you pull that from the kid too.
Speaker 1: I think personally, I think it's a time to give
Speaker 1: a chance to make sure you're really in this relationship
Speaker 1: with that person. So my one time, the pretty funny
Speaker 1: thing was is I was dating Isabel at the time,
Speaker 1: and my buddy, my friend Matt, came with me to
Speaker 1: go to the movies, and my older daughter, who was
Speaker 1: still younger at the time, came with us, and I obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, tried to honor as much as I can
Speaker 1: to make sure that things were distant, and they didn't
Speaker 1: know until I was really serious with this girl. And
Speaker 1: in the movie theater, I was like, oh, yeah, Brianna,
Speaker 1: this is Matt. You know, my buddy Matt, and this
Speaker 1: is his girlfriend. And Matt and my daughter kept looking
Speaker 1: as she got all the going there's no way in
Speaker 1: hell that Matt was dating that girl, No way, because
Speaker 1: he's like he's like a Tom Young, like a young
Speaker 1: goofy Tom Hanks kind of thing. And then you have
Speaker 1: you know, Isabel, who's this tall, beautiful Brazilian. So it's
Speaker 1: it's a areas how that whole thing, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it goes down. But again for me, it was like,
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I'm in this with
Speaker 1: her before they meet my kids, you know, And I
Speaker 1: think for me that's when I did that. But you know,
Speaker 1: again to each his own, toever. You know, sometimes people
Speaker 1: fall in love, they move in very quickly and that's
Speaker 1: that's that's their that's their bag, that's what they like.
Speaker 1: But for me, I know that I would take the
Speaker 1: time before I introduce my significant other to my kids
Speaker 1: because again that's a hard thing, especially depending on the
Speaker 1: age as well. Like my little one really doesn't know
Speaker 1: as much. It didn't really know as I didn't know.
Speaker 1: They're not stupid. Let's be real here, kids are not stupid.
Speaker 1: They they will they will see things and they will
Speaker 1: know things. And even like sometimes you know, as she
Speaker 1: was getting a little older and I was dating Isabelle,
Speaker 1: there has been questions like legit, like you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know you still married to mommy? Do you still
Speaker 1: love mommy? And you kind of go, yeah, we still
Speaker 1: love each other, but we're just not together in a relationship.
Speaker 1: We're always still gonna be there for each other. We're
Speaker 1: always gonna be there for you. And it's a tough
Speaker 1: it's a it's it's not an easy thing to kind
Speaker 1: of talk about it, especially when the kids can't understand
Speaker 1: it or they don't grasp you know. They're they're taught
Speaker 1: to love one another, to love people, and if you
Speaker 1: really care about that person, you know, maybe you get
Speaker 1: married with them and you have kids with them, and
Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the thing. It's never, well, what
Speaker 1: happens if you get married or you're together and you
Speaker 1: guys really really don't really see eye to eye anymore?
Speaker 1: And how does that work when you actually go through
Speaker 1: a separation or divorce or not being with them. So
Speaker 1: it's hard to really explain that to kids. But as
Speaker 1: they get older, they do start to understand and they
Speaker 1: have I think for me, they have a little bit
Speaker 1: of appreciation of how me and Kelly kind of handled
Speaker 1: what we did as far as going into that with
Speaker 1: our children. Amazing. Yeah, two years is long. I I
Speaker 1: wouldn't guess, obviously, because I'm not in that situation. Maybe
Speaker 1: off the top of my head and maybe would have
Speaker 1: guessed like four or six months. But like the fact
Speaker 1: that you were that thorough, that thorough, Like I really
Speaker 1: just as you how much you love and want to
Speaker 1: protect a few daughters because you don't know. Yeah, especially
Speaker 1: in a situation that I'm in. You don't know what
Speaker 1: the what the what the reasoning of whatever. The girl
Speaker 1: that I just say side I decided to meet or
Speaker 1: whatever has a different intention you don't. I don't know,
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure that it's legit, it's real.
Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, a flash in the pan.
Speaker 1: It could have been a rebounder. You don't know. You
Speaker 1: know again, you never know until you really go Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the person I really want to be with for
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life or for a really
Speaker 1: long time, and I want them to be a part
Speaker 1: of my life with my children. Yeah. Wow, great answer,
Speaker 1: Thanks Joy, he said, you got another one. Yes, this
Speaker 1: is from anonymous how do dads cope with their daughters
Speaker 1: or sons that are getting older and leaving the house
Speaker 1: and starting their own lives. How do you navigate that transition?
Speaker 1: I said, Brianna, get the hell out. No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: I bought it. Get the hell out. You know what's
Speaker 1: so funny, there's there's different there's different kids. Kids are
Speaker 1: gonna be different, um like for instance, and again, it's
Speaker 1: interesting how dynamic and how different my daughters are from
Speaker 1: each other. Where you have Brianna, who is never really
Speaker 1: a hugger. She'll hug you and stuff, but never hug strangers.
Speaker 1: She was never like even the type to give a hug.
Speaker 1: To my parents. We would tell her, you know, all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: lean over and and and and give your forehead basically
Speaker 1: because she would go to hug, but she would just
Speaker 1: lean her forehead to her shoulder, never wrap their arms
Speaker 1: or even like my parents, her grandparents, she was there
Speaker 1: like that. Chloe's a different story. Chloe hugs and loves everyone.
Speaker 1: And the reason why I saying that is with Brianne.
Speaker 1: With Brianna, my older one, she was excited and ready
Speaker 1: at the house, not like you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get out of you drive me crazy.
Speaker 1: It's more or less of I really want to go
Speaker 1: into the world, and I think we have I think
Speaker 1: I'd like to say and think that we did a
Speaker 1: good job on prepping her to be smart about things,
Speaker 1: to be independent, to be an independent person, and not
Speaker 1: really rely on other people all the time, because there
Speaker 1: are times that people are you know, it's it's just
Speaker 1: it's a true fact. Everybody is never not everyone's always
Speaker 1: gonna be there for you. It may happen a lot
Speaker 1: of times, but not everybody is always gonna be So
Speaker 1: how do you think for yourself? You know. So it's
Speaker 1: funny to watch her because, especially in college, when she
Speaker 1: has a roommate and she's in the dorm and it's
Speaker 1: almost like not that she's bathing the roommate, but she
Speaker 1: has that motherly I guess feeling instinct, yeah, instincts where
Speaker 1: she's like, oh my god, I had to clean the
Speaker 1: room today, or I have my god, this was messy.
Speaker 1: And to make sure this, I said, oh, you're finally
Speaker 1: learning about things. I'm like, wait until you get a
Speaker 1: job now. And now she's been getting you know, she's
Speaker 1: working now and now it's a whole another thing. But
Speaker 1: she was, you know, for me, it's it's sad. Of course,
Speaker 1: it's so weird to see your child grow up. It's
Speaker 1: there always people always say it, People always say this stuff,
Speaker 1: and you always go, well, you don't, you never, you
Speaker 1: don't understand less you have a child. And it is
Speaker 1: so true. And it's not like shove me, get down
Speaker 1: your throat, like, oh my god, you know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: It's more or less of It is a such an
Speaker 1: odd feeling to have somebody that you loved that from
Speaker 1: the very beginning could never even speak to you or
Speaker 1: talk to you when the kid was born, that you
Speaker 1: have so much love for this person, and now this
Speaker 1: person is a grown ass woman and she's doing things
Speaker 1: and going through things that you did before, but in
Speaker 1: a different path. And it's weird to go, Okay, I've
Speaker 1: seen you sing at a kid's school play, you know,
Speaker 1: singing Yankee Doodle Danny in kindergarten. And now you're walking
Speaker 1: down getting your diploma, and now you're going into college
Speaker 1: and you go, what the hell just happened? How did
Speaker 1: that time go? And it's it's an emotional roller coaster.
Speaker 1: It is I mean, I got I cried like a
Speaker 1: freaking baby when I left her. I remember this, I
Speaker 1: actually left her. I was like, all right, cool, and
Speaker 1: I was like in the dorm and I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: all settled in. I'm like, all right, I said, the
Speaker 1: only thing for me when I got upset and I
Speaker 1: told her, I said, I was like, I got teared
Speaker 1: saying it because I said to her, listen, I said,
Speaker 1: here's the here's the thing that sucks, and said, it's
Speaker 1: great that you're going and doing all the things that
Speaker 1: you're doing. The only thing that sucks is and I'm
Speaker 1: used to traveling anyway. So therefore we have We're good
Speaker 1: with each other in a sense of calling each other,
Speaker 1: face timing each other. The hardest part is is when
Speaker 1: I come home to Florida and I want to see you,
Speaker 1: You're not there. You're a Michigan to see you for
Speaker 1: a lot of the other holidays that you normally I
Speaker 1: normally see, you're not there. So that kind of tradition
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff is where it hurts home
Speaker 1: and you're like, sucks, you know. But again, it's one
Speaker 1: of those things where you have to let you kild fly.
Speaker 1: You have to let them to to make those mistakes.
Speaker 1: And you know, even now, there's so many times that
Speaker 1: we bumped heads. And one time I said something that
Speaker 1: she actually told me to go f myself, which I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, I mean, you want to get deep
Speaker 1: with stuff? And we we had a heated argument. We
Speaker 1: had a we had a heated argument. Can I criss
Speaker 1: on here? No? I can't cross. You want easy to
Speaker 1: believe it to be things? You should believe it? Oh yeah, no,
Speaker 1: no legit I I we had an argument about something
Speaker 1: and I I said something that I shouldn't have that
Speaker 1: triggered her to get upset because she was I've never
Speaker 1: seen to be very outspoken like that. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: you got you're very passionate, you're very upset, and the
Speaker 1: way it came out again, I should have said this again,
Speaker 1: we don't say the right things all the time, but
Speaker 1: I was like, you're really upset? Are you were in
Speaker 1: your period? And that set off a whole another level
Speaker 1: of something that I've never seen before. So that's why
Speaker 1: she told me to go. Basically, she said, you can
Speaker 1: go yourself. It's what she said to me. And I
Speaker 1: went and I stepped back for a second and I
Speaker 1: just let her go out. She get all steamed up.
Speaker 1: She tells me everything. I go, okay, I left room.
Speaker 1: I went back in the room and I said, do
Speaker 1: me a favor. I said, you know, I know that
Speaker 1: we do have great conversations again, and it's it's amazing
Speaker 1: to me how she is very open to a lot
Speaker 1: of things that not even myself, or sometimes I would
Speaker 1: think even my friends kids would never say to them
Speaker 1: or openly say to them. But it's interesting where I
Speaker 1: was like, do me a favor. I said, we can
Speaker 1: have conversations. You can be mad at me, you can
Speaker 1: go inside and say I said, if you ever say
Speaker 1: that ever again, I will beat your ass. I said,
Speaker 1: you want to know what a grown person would do
Speaker 1: to a grown person. You're grown woman, though, I will
Speaker 1: beat your ass because I'm your father. I said, don't
Speaker 1: ever speak to me like that ever again. I said,
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't have that. Guy said, I don't
Speaker 1: speak to you like that. You don't speak to me
Speaker 1: like that. I said, we don't do that. So she
Speaker 1: apologized and everything, and again, these these are these are
Speaker 1: moments that you know, we don't like to talk about,
Speaker 1: but they happen. Having your own kid to tell me
Speaker 1: go screw myself after she got mad at something else.
Speaker 1: And again it was a whole other thing, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, let's all calm down. I'm not your friend,
Speaker 1: I'm your father. So that's that's the first. And it's
Speaker 1: so it's so funny to see people too when they
Speaker 1: see me because I'm like a twelve year old kids
Speaker 1: you don't like having fun? Is that It's hilarious when
Speaker 1: a lot of friends of mine see me and they're like, damn,
Speaker 1: you really reprimand your kids are You're really telling them
Speaker 1: don't do that? Or how did you see that? That
Speaker 1: your kids doing that and you're yelling at her? They're
Speaker 1: only done, I said, I see everything. I said, we
Speaker 1: just noticed it. It's just an instinct. It happens. It
Speaker 1: is what it is. But you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: getting back to the to that question, in a sense
Speaker 1: of like it's it's it's tough. It is, it's just
Speaker 1: all around tough. You try to deal with it the
Speaker 1: best you can uh and learn how to go about it.
Speaker 1: And again, everybody's path is completely different. You know, mine
Speaker 1: is where I never even went to college. My kids
Speaker 1: going to college. I never went. So I look at
Speaker 1: her going. I don't know what to tell you. I've
Speaker 1: never been to college. I don't even know what it's like.
Speaker 1: My college years was touring the world. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, it's different old. How old were
Speaker 1: you when you left home? Um? I didn't well specifically
Speaker 1: really leave home, but as far as traveling, and I
Speaker 1: was gone from about two and a half years is
Speaker 1: when I was right out of high school, almost like
Speaker 1: eighteen or nineteen years old. The age that my my
Speaker 1: daughter left college really was the time I left. I
Speaker 1: left the team to pursue hockey, and I remember leaving.
Speaker 1: I was gone for about a month and then I'm
Speaker 1: remember writing a letter to my parents and my brother
Speaker 1: and sister and like I can't do this. I miss
Speaker 1: you guys too much. Like I was crying. Um, it's
Speaker 1: like my heart was breaking that I was away from home.
Speaker 1: I was living with another family in a different town,
Speaker 1: five hours away. And I put it in a little
Speaker 1: desk drawer in my in my bedroom and I never
Speaker 1: mailed it. And I kind of just got over that
Speaker 1: hurdle all of a sudden, and then after that I
Speaker 1: was fine. I was like, I want to pursue hockey
Speaker 1: for a life like I want. You know, this is
Speaker 1: just I'm just feeling this way, but I want to pursue.
Speaker 1: This means everything to me. And once I got over
Speaker 1: that hurdle, I just you know, took off. But my parents,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're ready for me to go. Um,
Speaker 1: God bless their heart because when they dropped up, we
Speaker 1: all cried. They bawled their eyes out, and then they
Speaker 1: get in the car and they drossed home. Um, they
Speaker 1: weren't ready for me to go. But I think it
Speaker 1: was an ultimate form of love to show me, like
Speaker 1: for him to be what he wants to be, he
Speaker 1: needs to play against better competition and this is do that.
Speaker 1: So literally, I'm sure their hearts broke, but like in
Speaker 1: giving me love, that was probably the way that they
Speaker 1: saw that they could most give me love. And you
Speaker 1: know what I And the most amazing thing about that
Speaker 1: is if if and and as kids we don't think
Speaker 1: about it, but and now that I think about it,
Speaker 1: because I probably wouldn't let her go if I didn't
Speaker 1: think she was able to do it. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I think parents, if parents knew that
Speaker 1: their kid was about to fail, or do something. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying it just forget it happens.
Speaker 1: We're all, we all play Devil's African stuff. But I think, like,
Speaker 1: you know, especially with my kid, I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, you're ready. I can't stop you anymore. I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cuttle you. I'm not gonna baby you.
Speaker 1: You're you're a grown kid. You've made enough decisions in
Speaker 1: your life to prove to me what that you can
Speaker 1: make a normal decision in your life, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So it was kind of interesting to to
Speaker 1: to let that go. And I think that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I think for even for an adult to say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I know you're ready to let yourself to
Speaker 1: let to go. They might not be ready, but I
Speaker 1: know you're ready, you know what I mean. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's interest because I think that's thinking about that. I
Speaker 1: don't think I would let her go if she was ready. Um,
Speaker 1: how does that? How does that feel for you? Is
Speaker 1: there is there like a real internal sense of pride,
Speaker 1: like I believe she's ready, Like I think I've I
Speaker 1: think I've been the best parent I could for her,
Speaker 1: and like yeah, you know, and again. You know, it
Speaker 1: feels good when other people say it, obviously, you know
Speaker 1: when when it's word of mouth, when all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, I've had Yeah, And again, it's always weird
Speaker 1: and interesting because of who I am. Some people take
Speaker 1: that into consideration. Think about it. You know, where some
Speaker 1: people just might want to come up to me and say,
Speaker 1: oh my god, your daughter is such an amazing kid,
Speaker 1: just because they wanted to talk to me. But there
Speaker 1: are some people out there that are like, you know what,
Speaker 1: They're like friends of mine that are like, dude, that's
Speaker 1: your kid. That's weird. First of all, they said, because
Speaker 1: how the hell did that amazing woman come out of you?
Speaker 1: Basically in a sense like you taught like I know
Speaker 1: you from like farting around in rooms and being silly,
Speaker 1: and you know, again being twelve years old, they're like,
Speaker 1: she is so ahead of her time. Even though she's
Speaker 1: still a kid and she still plays and has kid tendencies,
Speaker 1: she was very adult older for her age. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: we went to for instance, the stupidest, funniest thing too,
Speaker 1: and I want to kill somebody is we went to
Speaker 1: Lance's wedding. We're at Lance's wedding. Him and Michael were
Speaker 1: getting married and some people haven't seen me in a while,
Speaker 1: and some people I know and stuff, and I'm walking
Speaker 1: around and Brianna was with me and and and Kelly
Speaker 1: actually my exit that we were separated, and Brown was
Speaker 1: walking around and some guys starts talking to Brianna and
Speaker 1: he's like basically hitting on her. And I'm like watching
Speaker 1: as this is going down, I'm like, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be funny. I walk up and the guy's like, oh, Joey,
Speaker 1: what's up there? And I know. The guy like oh,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, do you know. I'm like, yeah, that's Brianna,
Speaker 1: my daughter. He went, oh okay, I'm like, yeah, daughter.
Speaker 1: I was like that. All I say was that's my daughter.
Speaker 1: And he had no idea. He thought it was just
Speaker 1: some chick at them at the wedding and he was
Speaker 1: just trying to hit on. I was like, by the way,
Speaker 1: she's seventeen. And that was the time too. I'm like,
Speaker 1: she's seventeen and I would kill you, there's no way.
Speaker 1: So again, it's really funny, like how mature she has
Speaker 1: has gotten. And I guess, you know again, I commend
Speaker 1: obviously myself. Yeah, I put about the the back and
Speaker 1: and my acts as well. You know. Again, it's like
Speaker 1: we may not be the great the greatest people in
Speaker 1: a relationship wise as far as the marriage is concerned,
Speaker 1: but I definitely know that we have been damn good
Speaker 1: parents to to keep our kids in the right path
Speaker 1: whether or whatever happens in our relationship. You know, if
Speaker 1: we try to keep that, Yeah, we try to keep
Speaker 1: that that very kind of on the same path for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: true North compass point for kids. Yeah, to put them
Speaker 1: first and and be there for them. Good for you, guys,
Speaker 1: we don't much more time with you know, you have
Speaker 1: a heart out here. Shortly, Um, eatan, what kind of
Speaker 1: do we want to get to another final question? Or
Speaker 1: do we want to get some fire? Fire fire some
Speaker 1: questions and I'll answer as quickly as I can. I know,
Speaker 1: we go into a whole freaking thing. I love to
Speaker 1: talk about this because I got a quick one. So, um,
Speaker 1: you probably get these all the time. But like our
Speaker 1: our listeners are, like I said, are probably fan girling
Speaker 1: right now. So, um, what's the most challenging part of
Speaker 1: being known from a boy bound boy band? And what's
Speaker 1: the best part? So most challenging and most and the
Speaker 1: best um you know, in the beginning of it, like
Speaker 1: after we split. I think the challenging part from being
Speaker 1: at a boy band was was breaking that mold. Was
Speaker 1: trying to not be a guy from Men Sync and
Speaker 1: again we were and I was, and it is what
Speaker 1: it is that I had the popularity it was it
Speaker 1: was more or less of really trying to break that
Speaker 1: mold because people all they did was just see me
Speaker 1: as a as a guy in a group. And you
Speaker 1: look at a lot of other groups out there, that's
Speaker 1: what a lot of them known for some of them
Speaker 1: now of course. Or you got you know, like into
Speaker 1: Jackson Bybe, you got Michael Jackson, you got with even
Speaker 1: within Sick, you got justin Um. You know, with Backstreet,
Speaker 1: you don't really have a specific solo person or somebody
Speaker 1: that's out there, you know, making it their own. They
Speaker 1: do individual things like Nick does and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but not really I don't know, not really made. Other
Speaker 1: things are completely out outside of just music, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like for instance, because I like how
Speaker 1: you reinvented yourself in many lanes, Well I looked at
Speaker 1: the whole picture. Yeah, I gotta look at the whole
Speaker 1: big picture. You know, for instance, say Real Quick Dance
Speaker 1: with the Stars was a great platform. Yeah it's not
Speaker 1: my forte. I mean, yeah, I danced a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you know what, people saw my personality and that
Speaker 1: helped me get another gig. And I did a show
Speaker 1: called the Singing b Singing Be went to TV Guide
Speaker 1: Network and I did I was doing the Red Carpet
Speaker 1: for TV Guy Network and it just kept going on
Speaker 1: and on. Thank goodness that the albums the show called
Speaker 1: common Oledge. So I think if I didn't do those
Speaker 1: shows to show my personality, I would have never been
Speaker 1: able to reinvent myself. Yeah awesome. Um, what's the best
Speaker 1: part of being known from a boy band? M There's
Speaker 1: a few things. There was no social media back then.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. Uh. I'll just say, if you screaming,
Speaker 1: women just coming up to you and oh my god,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's it's one of those things. It's
Speaker 1: I one of the one of the harder things was
Speaker 1: was really traveling around a lot back in the day.
Speaker 1: I remember how hard it was though, where we could
Speaker 1: not even go to the bathroom by ourselves, had a
Speaker 1: security guard have to go into the bathroom make sure
Speaker 1: that there was nobody in there kind of thing. Now
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more lenient, it's a lot more relaxed.
Speaker 1: I like this better. Um, you know, do I do?
Speaker 1: I of course do. I love performing with the guys stuff,
Speaker 1: And then of course I didn't. It still would love
Speaker 1: to if that ever comes about. How's it gonna happen?
Speaker 1: Probably not at the moment, I'm already answering that question.
Speaker 1: But it's just one of those things where you just,
Speaker 1: you know, it take you take different things one step
Speaker 1: at a time, you know. And for me it's like
Speaker 1: I try not to dwell on things are like, o oh,
Speaker 1: in the past, you know, we were this, and we
Speaker 1: were that. You know, that was the best days. I
Speaker 1: think the whole thing was just an amazing experience. It
Speaker 1: was something a part of my life that I will
Speaker 1: never forget and always cherish. I never I'm not the
Speaker 1: type of person it's like, oh, those are my days
Speaker 1: when I was young. I didn't know any better. We
Speaker 1: were making a crapload of money, millions of fans, and
Speaker 1: we had great music and what else is it? So? Um?
Speaker 1: I had a friend, an next athlete, once tell me
Speaker 1: never try and replace sports. But also I know that
Speaker 1: you will always be the athlete that you are. So
Speaker 1: like a lot of guys will come out of sports
Speaker 1: and say, oh, I was a professional athlete like you are.
Speaker 1: Like if you want a gold medal, if you want
Speaker 1: a gold medal in the Olympics, you are an Olympic champion.
Speaker 1: You are. Yeah, you know what can take that away
Speaker 1: from you? No one continue You still are that. But
Speaker 1: then the challenges you know you are a member of
Speaker 1: in Sync. You are, but you have done things now,
Speaker 1: But I am also now, I am this, Now I
Speaker 1: am I've gone through that journey myself in identity of
Speaker 1: like I am still a hockey player even though I retired.
Speaker 1: I am that. I'm also a podcast post and I'm
Speaker 1: also these other things you know. So um, I think
Speaker 1: people get stuck in an identity, especially in uh a
Speaker 1: notable one of one of fame or where where people
Speaker 1: identify them as of course, people could still identify you
Speaker 1: as a member of in Sync, but you've gone on
Speaker 1: to do so many other things that well, and is
Speaker 1: that And it's interesting to see now too because now
Speaker 1: I never know it's it's it's actually quite It's almost
Speaker 1: like a little game now for me because when people
Speaker 1: come up, I never know what they're I never know
Speaker 1: what they're gonna say, because sometimes it's like the older
Speaker 1: the young, older women that are in their thirties and
Speaker 1: forties are like, oh my gosh, I love you, and in
Speaker 1: in sync the grandmother will look at me and go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you were great at Dance with the Stars,
Speaker 1: or I love you my big fact Greek wedding. Young
Speaker 1: kids will say, holy cow, I loved you from Impractical Jokers,
Speaker 1: or you were great on the Mask Singer. So my
Speaker 1: my stuff is spread out so much, which is really cool,
Speaker 1: I guess because the demographic for me has been again
Speaker 1: it's been such a widespread So I think that's another
Speaker 1: thing in credit to where when I do Common Knowledge
Speaker 1: to show that's on Game Show Network right now, so
Speaker 1: many different kids and from kids two adults to everybody
Speaker 1: can watch it. It's a fun family game and the
Speaker 1: things that I've done have spenned over a lot of
Speaker 1: different generations. Believe it or not, Uh to be able
Speaker 1: to thank goodness, people still recognize me. It's not oh,
Speaker 1: you're from that band that justin Timberlake was in which
Speaker 1: you know, we get we get all the time. But
Speaker 1: it is what it is, and but I don't care. Man,
Speaker 1: it's credit to you for reinventing yourself, for continually doing
Speaker 1: things in life, versus you could I you could have
Speaker 1: just cashed out and said, okay, I'm good. I was
Speaker 1: and seeing dressed in life. But but it's not exactly.
Speaker 1: I love to entertain. I love. Yeah, I love to entertain.
Speaker 1: I love I love different things. I love. I love
Speaker 1: that I'm able to have a variety of life in
Speaker 1: the sense of where one day I'm in a booth dute,
Speaker 1: I've alwiced over for a cartoon. The next minute, I'm
Speaker 1: hosting a show for the Game Show Network. Then I'm
Speaker 1: doing pranks and jokes with a practical jokes. I mean,
Speaker 1: who the hell would not want what I'm doing. I
Speaker 1: mean it's amazing. Again, I've always you know, KMA lucky
Speaker 1: stars and blessed the stuff that I've done. And again
Speaker 1: I I do also handed to my ex but also
Speaker 1: my kids for allowing me, because sometimes that's not easy
Speaker 1: when you know the parents are always gone and the
Speaker 1: kids are not, like, well, why does daddy always have
Speaker 1: to leave? And that happened with my younger one. My
Speaker 1: older one now when she was younger, Why is daddy
Speaker 1: always leaving? And it's always well, daddy has to work.
Speaker 1: And I was literally, plain simple. Do you like the
Speaker 1: house you're living in? Do you like the school that
Speaker 1: you're in? You like the car that mommy drives? Well,
Speaker 1: daddy has to do these things in order to have
Speaker 1: these things. Dude, I can't imagine how hard that must
Speaker 1: because I have a two and a half year old
Speaker 1: husky who's my boy. He's like he's like laying on
Speaker 1: the floor over here. Um, but like when I leave,
Speaker 1: he just stands at the door and howls and like
Speaker 1: claws the door and howls, and it just breaks my
Speaker 1: heart when I take him everywhere with me. So when
Speaker 1: I do have to leave where somewhere where he can't come, um,
Speaker 1: it just breaks his heart. And it must be amplified
Speaker 1: a million times. When you have kids that are looking
Speaker 1: at people say that, I think it's the same. I
Speaker 1: know it sounds crazy me to say that, because I've
Speaker 1: seen people with their dogs. I mean, even my girlfriend
Speaker 1: has a dog. We have a multipoo, and that is
Speaker 1: her kid. That's amazing. I mean, like no joke. It's
Speaker 1: like she literally said to me one day and I
Speaker 1: looked at it. I was like, really, she goes, well,
Speaker 1: you know, if if he doesn't go, I don't go.
Speaker 1: You know what. Fair enough? I was like, and I
Speaker 1: don't even said that. I could. I can't be mad
Speaker 1: at her. I could be like, well the dog, that's
Speaker 1: her kid. You know, you gotta start thinking about it
Speaker 1: that way. Not many people think that, So again, it
Speaker 1: does magnify it because I think the only difference is
Speaker 1: is with a child, when they get older, they communicate
Speaker 1: and they say, daddy, don't leave. You know. A puppy
Speaker 1: is sometimes crying because maybe they saying, daddy don't leave.
Speaker 1: But daddy don't leave. I want you to play her, daddy,
Speaker 1: I gotta I want to eat, you know. But it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting when the kid, When the kid does say
Speaker 1: stuff like that, it breaks your freaking heart. It makes
Speaker 1: you just you're like, gosh, it's like man, you know, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's amazing how different things is. You can
Speaker 1: get older triggers, you know. I gotta I gotta a
Speaker 1: Father's Day card the very the very first time I
Speaker 1: ever got a Father's Day card. I'll remember this to
Speaker 1: the day I die. I gotta thing sent in the mail.
Speaker 1: I was on tour and it came into the mail
Speaker 1: at the arena and I opened up and it was
Speaker 1: a book that my ex made with with Brianna, like hey,
Speaker 1: do you know where my daddy is? And always like
Speaker 1: these cute little pictures of like Carl looking through the
Speaker 1: cabinet and stuff like that, or hang on and then
Speaker 1: set me a whole Father's Day thing. I lost it.
Speaker 1: I lost, legitimately, absolutely lost. And that's another thing about
Speaker 1: met out there. Stop being strong, be the be the
Speaker 1: worst that you can be. It's okay. It is okay
Speaker 1: to cry when you read a Hallmark card in your
Speaker 1: forty three years old, or it's okay to to get
Speaker 1: teary eyed when you see the soldier coming home to
Speaker 1: their daughter or their son. I lose that. I lose.
Speaker 1: I've never like I'm like God, I'm a big man.
Speaker 1: Now I lose. I lose. I lose absolutely too. I
Speaker 1: never did during during playing sports. I never did. But
Speaker 1: I've learned that. I've learned that side of my life
Speaker 1: and developed that side of my heart and the emotional
Speaker 1: intelligence and beat in two with that and not trying
Speaker 1: to suppress that, and my life is so much more
Speaker 1: fulfilled and happy. Yeah, I'm so much more expressed and
Speaker 1: I find a greater capacity to express love because of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that you say that for our community because
Speaker 1: I always try and be an advocate for that on
Speaker 1: this show as well. Um, so high five to you
Speaker 1: for being like truly a masculine and in touch with
Speaker 1: their emotions. Yeah. Man, nobody, nobody is perfect. And again
Speaker 1: we all we all have different spides to us, and
Speaker 1: you know, certain things may touch others in certain ways,
Speaker 1: but again it's it's for me, it's it's life. You know,
Speaker 1: if it's something moves you that much and that emotion
Speaker 1: that it's telling you something, it's telling you something. You know,
Speaker 1: it's say that moved you and that felt you in
Speaker 1: a way that you've never done before, and you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: that just took me. You know. Again, certain movies, now,
Speaker 1: anything that has to do with a daughter and and
Speaker 1: a father's I lose. It's a ram Like. I love
Speaker 1: that real quick. I want to ask you one last
Speaker 1: question or um it's it's probably the hardest question of
Speaker 1: the world to be short on, but I just want
Speaker 1: to respect your time. But um, what is the absolute
Speaker 1: best and most fulfilling thing about being a father. The
Speaker 1: most fulfilling thing is just seeing your kid succeeding in
Speaker 1: whatever that whatever that is in that moment. It's not like,
Speaker 1: you know, making money and being successful. It's it's literally
Speaker 1: you know, oh wow, she just walked for the first time.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. You know, those are for those moments for
Speaker 1: me are fulfilling, especially when and another thing that people
Speaker 1: have asked me, and you could actually go look a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of interviews when people always ask me, well,
Speaker 1: what's the one major thing in your life that was
Speaker 1: a pinpoint or a pivot or the most amazing thing?
Speaker 1: You know, what's one of the performances And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: it's not really so much performance. It's when I had
Speaker 1: my kids. That's the most rewarding thing for me. Yes,
Speaker 1: is it amazing to have the awards? It's amazing. To
Speaker 1: perform is amazing. Oh yeah, it's amazing. But it's amaz
Speaker 1: eason to have someone that you've created basically, and even
Speaker 1: if you haven't, even if you have adopted, that's another thing.
Speaker 1: And if you adopted a child, it's still in a
Speaker 1: sense your flesh and blood because you were teaching that child,
Speaker 1: the way that you were taught when you were younger
Speaker 1: by your parents or whoever taught you, and how to
Speaker 1: move that along and how to how to I don't know,
Speaker 1: get it to the next generation. So for me to know,
Speaker 1: it's weird for me to know, especially too, it's it's
Speaker 1: interesting to think about this, but for me to know
Speaker 1: that I have not failed my children is one of
Speaker 1: the greatest rewards as well. I think, you know what,
Speaker 1: I mean to see my kid look up and go,
Speaker 1: you know what, that's my dad. My dad may not
Speaker 1: be perfect, he's a door, but he's done a lot
Speaker 1: of good things in life for me and for my
Speaker 1: family and just for just in general where he makes
Speaker 1: people happy. And that's that's kind of one of the
Speaker 1: things that that I'm most proud of to know that
Speaker 1: my kid knows that my kids know that value and
Speaker 1: know that that after I'm dead and gone, that they
Speaker 1: know what I did, whatever I did was hopefully a
Speaker 1: great lesson and a value to them that they can
Speaker 1: live on to tell their kids or their family or
Speaker 1: their friends or whoever. So yeah, I love it, man,
Speaker 1: I love it. I love your mission. Um Where can
Speaker 1: our community find the one and only Mr I am everywhere. No,
Speaker 1: I mean on on Instagram and on on YouTube and
Speaker 1: on stuff. Obviously Real Joey Fatone at Real Joey Fatone
Speaker 1: is my Instagram and Twitter. But also there's a show
Speaker 1: that I host Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays on YouTube at
Speaker 1: around two o'clock two o'clock Eastern time, eleven o'clock, uh Pacific,
Speaker 1: the California area over there, um where we it's called
Speaker 1: what does Joey Know? I have a host, Jason Logan,
Speaker 1: he doesn't. Me and him basically host a show where
Speaker 1: we have a different celebrities and we interview them, we
Speaker 1: play certain songs to see if they can guess and
Speaker 1: see if they know it. That's another thing. Common Knowledge
Speaker 1: is still airing right now. And actually the cool thing
Speaker 1: about Common Knowledge is is it's gonna be airing on
Speaker 1: Fox at one pm I believe, starting I think uh
Speaker 1: sometime in mid August or the second week of August.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be in like Orlando, Tampa, in New York, Chicago,
Speaker 1: l a, UM, a bunch of major cities, but on
Speaker 1: Fox affiliates. So we're hopefully gonna be getting syndicated. So
Speaker 1: that's gonna be happening, and we're shooting more episodes in
Speaker 1: January three. It's August. Thank you. See you know more
Speaker 1: than I do. So August three grab even quicker than
Speaker 1: I thought. So August three year, we're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 1: start showing that. So please guys check it out. That'd
Speaker 1: be amazing. Let me know if it sucks. But it's
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It's a fun thing. And then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing some more stuff when practical jokers,
Speaker 1: when I start shooting again, so we have the after
Speaker 1: party show that I host. My brother in law used
Speaker 1: to watch that show all the time when he loved
Speaker 1: was so funny all the time. The nuts these guys
Speaker 1: are nuts, buddy. I I want to thank you one
Speaker 1: for being open and honest with us but to um
Speaker 1: pleasure you can do our community. But for being an
Speaker 1: amazing dad. Like I said the show, I have the
Speaker 1: utmost respect and tip my cap to every father out there. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think that's the greatest destiny in life, to become
Speaker 1: a father and a loving husband and a partner. And
Speaker 1: so I tip my cap to you. And then also
Speaker 1: from a personal standpoint too, I also am inspired by you.
Speaker 1: How you came up as a member of instinct and
Speaker 1: pivoted your career and you close you went on too
Speaker 1: different lanes and do in my life as I am
Speaker 1: an athlete was did live that athlete life. And now
Speaker 1: there's other things in the world, other ways I want
Speaker 1: to make an impact, other things. I want to challenge myself.
Speaker 1: But I could live my life. I'm not growing and
Speaker 1: challenging and meeting new people and stuff. And so to see,
Speaker 1: I always love when I see people crossing lanes and
Speaker 1: when I get to have conversations with them. So you're
Speaker 1: an inspiration to me. My man, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We can't wait to see what you do next. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you, man. Thank you for having me on any anytime. Seriously,
Speaker 1: I mean for me. You know I don't I don't
Speaker 1: talk a whole lot about it. A lot of times
Speaker 1: I think not not It's not just because I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I think it's more or less of just
Speaker 1: like just like anything, it's it's the right time in
Speaker 1: the right place. This is a podcast for that. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna talk to me about my career, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about my career. But you know, it's it's different
Speaker 1: people that are different listeners that are listening you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's kind of nice to where
Speaker 1: we had these conversations. Let's get into those conversations, and
Speaker 1: again they might not be the nicest conversations. Nobody is perfect.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing we we we all have to
Speaker 1: really when we all should realize that, we know, we
Speaker 1: realize that everything is not always freaking rainbows and roses.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's grind, it's grueling, parent thing could be
Speaker 1: a big painted the ass. It's just tough, but it's
Speaker 1: how you navigate and make it your own and make
Speaker 1: it to where you know you're learning. You're giving life
Speaker 1: lessons and you're learning them as well. I'm always learning
Speaker 1: every day. So I appreciate you. Thank you. Also, just
Speaker 1: to end it, just the other day, I was over
Speaker 1: at Sasha and Emma's for a barbecue and we're talking
Speaker 1: about their wedding, and I said, that was one of
Speaker 1: the funnest nights of my life. To do it again,
Speaker 1: like every year, just something right, if they do it,
Speaker 1: we'll see you there and I'll jump up, yeah, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: and make sure you don't rap your pants this time. Alright, uh,
Speaker 1: thank you for serving our community. Until next week, everybody,
Speaker 1: take care of one another, love one another, and we'll
Speaker 1: see you back here for another episode of How Men
Speaker 1: Think