1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,479 Speaker 1: I'm the tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Show number twenty four. Phone lines 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: are now open at triple eight rich one oh one 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: zero one. Give me a call. If you have a 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: question about technology, email is also open. Send it to 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Hello at richontech dot TV. Welcome to the show. Lots 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: to talk about. Back from the weekend at the ranch, 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: back at the studio. The sun is actually shining in 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Los Angeles for a change, which I know sounds odd, 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: but Los Angeles has had the oddest six months of 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: whether I can remember ever in the time I've been here, 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: except for El Nino, that was also odd. That was 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: just a lot of rain, but this was like, for 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: the past six months, we've just had over cast skies, 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: which I know not that big of a deal, but 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: it kind of is. In Los Angeles, a city that 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: promises endless sunshine, so we are finally breaking out of 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: that and getting some sun, so I imagine more people 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: will be outside. But anyway, why do I tell you that, 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: I don't really know. It's just because it puts everyone 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: in a good mood. I think it's just nice to 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: have that sun shining. It feels like there's a there's 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: a promise in this world, the promise of a better future, 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: a sunny day ahead. Well I got snagged. Can you 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: believe it? It happened to me. I was talking about 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: it on this very show, and the very thing I 28 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: talked about happened to me. I will tell you, I 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: got snagged by this whole Netflix password sharing crackdown. It 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: happened to me, rich on Tech. Here's what happened. After 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: I came back from the Apple event. I was all 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: hyped up about the whole vision Pro, their virtual reality headset, 33 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: augmented reality headset, whatever you want to call it. And 34 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: so I said, you know what, let me charge up 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: the old oculus again and see how that thing does. 36 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: And so I charged it up, and I was like, 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: let me let me just see kind of some of 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: the apps that I might use on this thing. And 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: so Netflix was the first app that I opened on it. 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: And so I had to sign in on Netflix, which 41 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: was impossible with the headset because they want you to 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: Number one, it said scan a QR code to log in. 43 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: I was like, how can you scan a QR code? 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: That's inside a headset like that makes no sense. So 45 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: clearly they've sort of optimized the app for the oculus, 46 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: but not really enough. And then it was like, okay, 47 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: we'll enter this code into your phone. Okay, I'll enter 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: the code. 49 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: Now. 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: The difference between the Oculus and the Apple Vision Pro 51 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: is that you can't really see your surroundings. You kind 52 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: of can with the Oculus, but not really Apple Vision Pro. 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: I would have been able to just look at my 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: phone and also look at the screen in front of me. 55 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: That's not the case. So I had to take off 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: the headset, remember the number, pop it in on my 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: phone and I did that, which was fine. That linked 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: my account and then I got a message, I have 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: it right here. I printed it out just for you. 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: It says, this TV isn't part of your Netflix household. 61 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: Create an account to enjoy your own Netflix today. And 62 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: I said, hmm, well that's odd because I've been paying 63 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: twenty dollars a month for Netflix for as long as 64 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: I can remember, and yes I have a Netflix account, 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: and yes this is part of my household. So what happened? 66 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: It says, did we get it wrong? You have options? 67 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: You can update your Netflix household or it says i'm traveling, 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: you can press those buttons. Well, neither of those things. 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: I guess. The update the Netflix household was my first guess. 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: So I said, all right, let me update my Netflix household, 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: and then it all made sense. I got a text 72 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago that said your Netflix household 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: has been set, and I was like, that's odd because 74 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: I didn't set my Netflix household. Turns out, someone who 75 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: had my password in my family set the household where 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 1: they live, which is not where I live. And so 77 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: I know, should you be sharing your password? Probably not? 78 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: Do one hundred million people do it? Yes, that's what 79 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Netflix said, forty three percent of its global user base 80 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: shares their password. Well not anymore. So what I had 81 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: to do was embark on a journey to try to 82 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: reset my household to claim my Netflix account as mine, 83 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: which I know sounds silly because I'm the one paying 84 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: for it, But here I am proving to Netflix that 85 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: it is my house that I want to watch this 86 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: thing on my own headset, in my own home. So 87 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: it said you can only do this from a TV, 88 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: and so I said, all right, well that's easy enough. 89 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: I've got two TVs. Here with Netflix, so let me go. 90 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: So I fired up the Netflix app on the Apple 91 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: TV and it says to go into your account and 92 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: click update Netflix Household, which I just couldn't do. That 93 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: button was nowhere to be found on an Apple TV, 94 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: and so it took me a while to realize that 95 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: the Apple TV software is clearly different from the other 96 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: Netflix software anywhere else. I wasn't going to be able 97 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: to use my Apple TV to update my household. Then 98 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: I figured, okay, well, let's go to the fire TV 99 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: because Android software is usually a bit more flexible, usually 100 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: different than what Apple has out there. So let me 101 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: see if the button appears on that device. So I 102 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: go to the TV that has the fire stick, I 103 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: fire up Netflix. I go into the settings where it 104 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: says update your household, and sure enough, there's the button. 105 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: It says update Netflix household, and so I click the 106 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: button and lo and behold, it says your household has 107 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: been updated. I can now watch Netflix. I was able 108 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: to log in on the headset, I was able to 109 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: watch it on my Apple TV. I was able to 110 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: watch it on this TV. But what happened all my 111 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: password leechers around the US, my family members lost access immediately, 112 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: and I told them. I texted them, I said, he 113 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: heads up. I sent to our group chat. I said, 114 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: heads up, the free ride is over. You have enjoyed 115 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: Netflix for many, many years for free. I didn't mind. 116 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: It seemed like Netflix didn't really care. But now the 117 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: free ride is over. Netflix is no longer free for you, 118 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: And so I sent this. Nobody in my family said 119 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: anything back, but I know a couple of them were affected. 120 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: And sure enough, I am talking to a family member later, 121 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: about two or three days later, and I said, family 122 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: member that will remain unnamed. I said, ah, have you 123 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: noticed that you don't have any access to Netflix anymore? 124 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: And they said, yeah, I did notice. Now I've got 125 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: nothing to watch. I said, well, you know, I have 126 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: been paying your bill for like, you know, five years now, 127 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: And they said, you know what. I was talking to 128 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: a friend about this because the same thing happened to them. 129 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: Their son was paying for their Netflix bill and their 130 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: free ride is over. So clearly this crackdown is working. 131 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: In fact, I have some numbers here from Antenna. This 132 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: is a company I guess that monitors this stuff. Netflix 133 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: had the four single biggest days of US sign ups 134 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: in the four and a half years since this Antenna 135 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: company has tracked data on May twenty sixth and May 136 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: twenty seven this was right in the wake of Netflix's 137 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: big crackdown. There are almost one hundred thousand sign ups 138 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: every day. During each of the four days, the company 139 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: saw an average of seventy three thousand new memberships, according 140 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: to Antenna, So clearly my little password crackdown story was 141 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: resonating around the US as everyone sort of realized, oh, this, 142 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: this little game is over. We can no longer share 143 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: our Netflix accounts. Now. I'm not saying this was right 144 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: or this was a good thing to do, but the 145 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: reality was Netflix looked a different way for many, many years. 146 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of questions about this. While people 147 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: are emailing me, I have an RV, how's it going 148 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: to work with that? I have a you know, a 149 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: kid in college, How's it going to work with that. 150 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: Netflix has a whole bunch of ways of figuring out 151 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: where these sort of households are. It says we use 152 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: information such as IP addresses, device IDs, and account activity 153 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: to deter whether a device is signed into your account 154 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: as part of your Netflix household. We do not use 155 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: GPS data to try to determine the precise physical location 156 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: of your devices. So basically, if you're traveling, if you've 157 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: got a kid at college, these are all probably use 158 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 1: cases where it's going to be fine, because the idea 159 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: is that kid from college will bring their laptop back 160 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: to home every once in a while, and maybe you 161 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: have to make a case for the TV there. I'm 162 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: not sure, but the reality is to bring this all home. 163 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: The family member I was talking to said, I said, 164 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: you know what, it's time for you to get your 165 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: own account, and they said, actually, it's a little bit 166 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: cheaper if you continue to pay, but it's eight bucks 167 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: a month, and you can pay for an extra person 168 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: and I will pay you back. I said, all right, 169 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: I guess we can try to do that. So, I 170 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: mean a Netflix account is about sixteen bucks a month 171 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: for the standard one, and so eight is half of that. 172 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: So I guess their reasoning's pretty good. Anyway, if you're 173 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: having those issues with a family member, you do know 174 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: that you can give them their own account. They can 175 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: transfer their profile, or you can just sign up for 176 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: an extra account on your account and pay the extra 177 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: eight bucks. I don't know how I'm gonna ask my 178 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: family member pay me eight bucks a month. I mean, 179 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: come on, that's kind of kind of gonna be tough. 180 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: All right. We got a great show coming up today, 181 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: lots going on, a couple of great guests. Dan Seaffer 182 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: of The Verge is going to join me with his 183 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: review of the Amazon Fire Max eleven tablet. We've got 184 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: food writer Jason Horn. We went to an event were 185 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: we a lab grown muzzarella cheese. Yeah, kind of interesting, 186 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that and why they're doing that. 187 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Then later in the show, we're gonna talk diabetes technology. 188 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: So we've got Justin Easter, founder and host of Diabetes 189 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: I gotta say this right, diabet tech, diabet tech. He 190 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: did a nice play on the words with that. But 191 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: first your questions coming up. Give me a call at 192 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight 193 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: seven four to two, four one zero one. I see 194 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: the lines are already lit up, so we'll take some 195 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: of your calls right after this. You are listening to 196 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich 197 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology at Triple 198 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven 199 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: four to two four to one zero one. You got 200 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: a question, you got a comment, Hop on the phone, 201 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: give me a call. I'm all yours. I didn't think 202 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: i'd say that on this show, but you know what, 203 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: sometimes you just do. It just happens. I'm trying to 204 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: get a special guest on the show today too, so 205 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: we'll work on that for a moment. They're getting a 206 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: little shy, but we'll see if we can get them on. 207 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: Let's go to Peter in Amesbury, Massachusetts. Peter, you're on 208 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: with Rich. 209 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: I can't be the special guest. 210 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,239 Speaker 1: Well you're special, but there's there's other special guests. 211 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: Okay. As I told you on the screener, I'm having 212 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: an issue with my phone. Basically it's a smartphone that's 213 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: been with a brick. 214 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 4: Now, like literally basically I can't well not literally, but 215 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: I think it's I've gone through some issues with you know, 216 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 4: the settings were maybe wrong, and then the text thing 217 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: wouldn't work at all in certain days, and I discovered 218 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: if you shut it off, let it sit for a 219 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: couple of hours, it would be fine. 220 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: And uh so, bottom line is right now I can 221 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 3: send a text and get a text, but it doesn't 222 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: keep a record of my what I said, I can 223 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: make a phone call and get a phone call. Nothing 224 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: else works. It's basically becoming a pretty brick. 225 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 5: So I'm thinking about a new phone, and I'm trying 226 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 5: to avoid you know, different people. Uh, the person who 227 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 5: took olf R on Sunday, Leo. I talked to him 228 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 5: and basically at one point we got to a point 229 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 5: where it's like, well, there's something to be said for 230 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 5: a new a phone. Meaning what I here from people 231 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 5: around me in this area is no samuel an update 232 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 5: to help your phone. But because your phone is a 233 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 5: little bit older, guess what, it screws up your phone. 234 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 5: So you're supposed to run out. 235 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: No, no, no, we don't need you don't need a 236 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: new phone necessarily. What kind of phone are we talking 237 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: about here. 238 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: We're talking about a Samsung S. 239 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: Ten Okay, so that is definitely an older phone, the 240 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: Samsung S ten E. Let's see when that came out, 241 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: Samsung S ten E, the S ten that was in 242 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Okay, so we're talking four years old? Is this? 243 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: So here's what I'd recommend. So nothing's working with the 244 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: Is this this is not a five G phone? Is it? 245 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: Is it a four G. Still it's a four okay, 246 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: So that could be part of the issue is that 247 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: a lot of these networks have moved to five G, 248 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: but four G still works. 249 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: Correct. 250 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: What I think you should do and have you tried this? 251 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: Have you tried a factory reset to sort of start 252 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: fresh on this phone? 253 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 6: I have not. 254 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: But right now, like even like say apps that you 255 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: have on the phone, you if you say, okay, you 256 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: know updates. Even when I go to say my brother's house, 257 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: which will automatically hop onto the internet, you know, the 258 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: Wi Fi, it won't do anything. 259 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: Okay. So I think I think there's a couple of 260 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: things you should do here. So first off, before you 261 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: do anything, have you tried a network settings reset? 262 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: Are you talking the APM? 263 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: Nope? Network settings? There's a there's a reset of the phone. 264 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: So if you go into the reset menu on your phone, 265 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: So if you go into settings and search reset, there's 266 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: a an option in there that says reset all settings, 267 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: reset network settings, reset accessibility settings. What I would first 268 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: try to do is reset the network settings. What that's 269 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: going to do is that is going to clear out 270 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: all of your settings for your cellular, for your WiFi, 271 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: for your Bluetooth, and then when your phone and then 272 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: restart your phone. Obviously, when you restart your phone, all 273 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: of those things are going to try to reconnect, and 274 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to reconnect to Wi Fi. It's 275 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: going to find the cellular network. It's going to download 276 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: those APMs that you talked about that you know, most 277 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: people never really have to deal with on their phone 278 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: because those are set automatically, and it's going to reset 279 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: the Bluetooth settings. Now, if your phone still isn't working, 280 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: if you still can't send and receive data all that 281 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: stuff through Wi Fi, then there's another option that says 282 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: reset all settings, and so now you can go through 283 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: and that will reset your security settings, your language, your accounts, 284 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: all your personal data, all of your settings for your 285 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: downloaded apps. It's kind of like the last thing you 286 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: can do before you actually do a factory reset. Now, 287 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: if that doesn't work, if you get your phone to 288 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: work after that, that's great. So what I'd immediately do 289 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: is do a system update. And I'm looking at the 290 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: latest Verizon update for this phone was in March, So 291 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: depending on the carrier that you have, it seems like 292 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: this phone is still getting a couple of security updates, 293 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: which is pretty good for a four year old phone. 294 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: That's kind of like the breakoff point. The cutoff point 295 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: for phones nowadays is about four years. So if all 296 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't work, and you can update your apps and 297 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: you can update your software, because I definitely do a 298 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: software update after that, and by doing that, you go 299 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: into your settings again and you go into let's see 300 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: whereas that settings it says software update, You download and 301 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: install that, make sure you got that working. And then 302 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: if you can't get any of that to work, you 303 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: gotta do the final nuclear option, which is the factory reset. 304 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: And so if you do a factory reset and that 305 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: will reset everything. This will bring your phone back to 306 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: the exact conditions that it was when you got it, 307 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: from the first day you had it, and it will 308 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: start fresh. You're gonna have to reinstall everything. You're gonna 309 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: have to sign into Google and all these different accounts 310 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: that you have in there, so make sure things are 311 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: backed up before you do that. But if your phone 312 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: doesn't work after that, then it is time for a 313 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: new phone. So those are all the steps I would 314 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: take personally, But you can use this phone, I think 315 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: for another year. So if you get all those things 316 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: to work, unless there is a physical problem with the 317 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: hardware on this phone, then you should still be able 318 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: to use it, so it should still be supported at 319 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: this point. All right, great question, Pete. Thanks so much. 320 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: And uh, I know everyone likes to just say get 321 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: a new phone, get a new phone. We live in 322 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: the culture here in America just throw it out, toss 323 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: it away, get a new one when things go wrong. 324 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: You don't necessarily need to do that. These things are 325 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: built much much better these days, and they last much longer, 326 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's really just a software issue. Thanks for 327 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: the call, all right, Hop on the line, triple eight 328 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: Rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to 329 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: two four one zero one. Coming up next, we've got 330 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: Dan Seffert, deputy editor at The Verge. He is going 331 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: to join us to have of his review of the 332 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: Amazon Fire Max eleven tablet. You are listening to Rich 333 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: on Tech. Joining me now is Dan Seffert, deputy editor 334 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: at The Verge. He recently reviewed the Amazon Fire Max 335 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: eleven tablet. This is Amazon's latest tablet. I've got one 336 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: right here so we can compare notes. Dan, Let's get 337 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: straight to the review. Thanks for joining me today. I 338 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: do appreciate it fire Max eleven. This on paper had 339 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: a lot of promise for me, but your headline kind 340 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: of says it all not the productivity tablet you're looking for, 341 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: So kind of give me the kind of your synopsis 342 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: of your review of this thing. 343 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean I would agree with you in 344 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 3: that it held a lot of promise on paper. This 345 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: is like Amazon's brand new tablet. It's got their fastest 346 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 3: processor they'd ever put in a tablet. It's the nicest 347 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: hardware they've used on a tablet in a long time. 348 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 3: So it's like markedly better looking than the lower tier 349 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 3: Amazon tablets that we're familiar with. But once you get 350 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 3: like past those first looks and you start using it, 351 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 3: you realize that it is effectively the exact same experience. 352 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 3: And the problem that I've had with Amazon tablets for 353 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 3: a long time, especially ones that are kind of trying 354 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: to market as beyond just basic media consumption but for 355 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 3: productivity and stuff like that Amazon's selling this as a 356 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 3: bundle with the keyboard and the stylists and things like that, 357 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: is that Amazon doesn't build any of the software that's 358 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: necessary to make all use of all of that, so 359 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 3: it's very hard to like kind of actually get work 360 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 3: done on this when you don't have the apps or 361 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 3: services that you might be looking for or accustomed to. 362 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you might save half the price of buying 363 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: an iPad is similarly equipped. But then all of a sudden, 364 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: you get this thing and you're like, wait a second, 365 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: I okay, So Office is installed on this thing as 366 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: a ninety day free trial Microsoft three sixty five. But 367 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's just it doesn't 368 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: feel like a tablet where you're meant to do work 369 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: on it. It feels like a tablet where you're meant 370 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: to watch movies, read books, and basically try not to 371 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: do much else because it's just it's a very frustrating 372 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: operating system. Let's put it that way. 373 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 374 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you can see that right from the home screen, 375 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: right like when you. Amazon's had the same basic homescreen 376 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: on its tablet for I don't know how many years now, 377 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 3: but it's effectively just kind of like showing you things 378 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 3: to watch, things to read, and things to buy from Amazon. 379 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: It's horrible. It's absolutely horrible. I'll just say it. Here's 380 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: the thing with this tablet if they had a nice 381 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: clean version of Android installed on this tablet, it would 382 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: be incredible. And if you can install the apps that 383 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: you want. The first thing I did was try to 384 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: install Chrome. Guess what you can't. I mean, you could 385 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: probably sideload it somehow, But the average person that's buying 386 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: this tablet is not trying to sideload this thing. 387 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: I don't think, right exactly, Yeah, I agree with either. 388 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: So, I mean the apps, and so Amazon has their 389 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: own app store, They've got their own software, and it's 390 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: all geared towards selling you or helping you watch Prime Video, 391 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: any Amazon product. So why are they so protective of this? 392 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: Like why couldn't they just make this better and still 393 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: sell a lot of them? 394 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 3: So I think it's a multi pronged problem for Amazon. One, 395 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: I think their business model just kind of leads them 396 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 3: to this type of product, because their business model is 397 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: really not making money on the hardware that they're selling you. 398 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: It's making money on the books that you're buying. And 399 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 3: like you mentioned, the Prime subscription that you pay for 400 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: to get Prime Video or the other thing that is 401 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 3: all over the home screen is literal products that it 402 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: thinks you want to buy from Amazon, so like their 403 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: business model kind of drives them towards that experience. The 404 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: other thing is they don't have what we call Google 405 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 3: services on this tablet. So, like you mentioned, you can't 406 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 3: download Chrome, there's no Gmail, there's Google Maps. If you've 407 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: got an Android phone, you're used to all of those 408 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: apps and services on the phone, and then you go 409 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 3: to this tablet and it's like none of them are available. Basically, 410 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 3: the only thing that's available is as you mentioned, Microsoft 411 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 3: Office Fee and very scattered, few random apps that you've 412 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: probably never heard of in Amazon's pretty small, anemic app store. 413 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: So to fix that, they would have to partner with Google, 414 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: which they haven't seem to want to do in the 415 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: ten or twelve years that they've been making fire tablets, 416 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: and or they would have to really court developers to 417 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: get their apps into Amazon's app store. And either developers 418 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: just don't want to do it because they don't see 419 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: the return on their investment, or Amazon just hasn't put 420 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: the effort in to making it worthwhile for those developers. 421 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so frustrating that even YouTube is not 422 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: available as a native app on this device, which is 423 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: available on pretty much any device around the world that 424 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: you get that. 425 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: Has, you know, the list of apps that you can't 426 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: get on an Amazon Fire tablet, it's much longer than 427 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: the list of that you can get. 428 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: Okay, Now for the positive side of this thing, So 429 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: I had my kids try rollblocks on it. They said 430 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: it was fine. I had them try Minecraft, as seemed 431 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: to be fast Zoom. We did a zoom call and 432 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: the camera actually was better than my kid's camera on 433 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: his MacBook. Has got a sixteen inch MacBook. So those 434 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: things were fine and Zoom ran just fine. But who 435 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: is this best for? Because I feel like people buy 436 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: these tablets and they return them a lot. 437 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard for me to pin down who this 438 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: is exactly best for. 439 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 6: Like, it is. 440 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: Better than Amazon's prior tablets in that you know, it's 441 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: got a faster process or better performance. Amazon's tablets kind 442 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: of have a deserved reuse reputation for being slow and 443 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 3: pokey and stuff like that because they're so cheap. But 444 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: my kind of perspective on that is, if all you're 445 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: doing is getting into a video streaming app, which is 446 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: like say you're just watching something from Max or Pair 447 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: unt Plus or Amazon Prime or whatever, you don't really 448 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 3: need the fastest tablet in the world, and the experience 449 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: between this and the I believe it's like eighty dollars 450 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: cheaper Fire ten is not that much different for that 451 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: perhaps if it's you know, a kid that has games. 452 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: Amazon does have a really the one piece of software 453 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: that they do actually pretty well is their Kids Mode. 454 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 3: So it's very easy for parents to kind of say, 455 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: setting this up for a child age to say, seven 456 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 3: to ten, and I want them to access this, this 457 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: and this, but not this, this and this, and then 458 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: just hand it off to them and they get like 459 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: a very curated experience, which is still a lot harder 460 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: to do with an iPad. It's not as easy to 461 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 3: do on other Android tablets. Amazon really does that experience 462 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: really well. But are you going to buy the top 463 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 3: end version of Amazon's tablet and hand it to a 464 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: kid and stuff like that? I find that hard to believe. 465 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: So I'm not really sure who this is for. I 466 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: assume at some point Amazon's going to put it on sale, 467 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: like it does with all of its products, and then 468 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: it will be maybe more of a compelling purchase at 469 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: like kind of just a nicer version of its existing 470 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: tennis tablets. But I don't think it's for anybody who 471 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: thinks that, oh, I'm going to buy a tablet to 472 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 3: knock out some email and compose documents and get collaborate 473 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 3: with my colleagues and work and stuff instead of using 474 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: my laptop. That's just really not what this device provides. 475 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm looking at the product listing page. It's 476 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty dollars. Looks like it's available now. 477 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: It does say on there we want you to know 478 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: the fire tablet does not does come with lock screen ads. 479 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: So that's another kind of punch in the gun there, 480 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: because if you want if you want this without the ads, 481 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: you got to pay even more. And then it says 482 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: Google Play is not supported on Amazon fire Tablets, which 483 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: I think would probably be confusing to a lot of people. 484 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: They'd be like, what does that mean? 485 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 7: You know? 486 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: And then the other thing is that I do like 487 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: is the expandable memory is kind of nice, so you 488 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: can put in a one up to a one terabyte card, 489 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: which you know, maybe you need that, maybe a don't. 490 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: How did you find the battery life to be? 491 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: You know, I really didn't have a problem with the 492 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: battery life, and I think that part of that is 493 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: because I just ended up in a lot of scenarios 494 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: where I couldn't get what I needed to get done 495 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: on it, so I had to move to a different device. 496 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: But even for like basic video streaming and stuff like that, 497 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: like I could. I think with most tablets these days, 498 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: whether they're an iPad or a fire tablet or a 499 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: sam flung tablet, I really don't worry too much about 500 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 3: the battery life. They last, yeah, in twelve hours, and 501 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: like you know you're going to use it all day 502 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: and then or you know it'll last across country flight, 503 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 3: which is the longest that most people use these at 504 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: a stretch. So the battery life I don't think is 505 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: a problem at all. And even the performance wasn't that bad. 506 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: It's not as fast or snappy as Apple's iPads, but 507 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 3: I didn't have any problems where like I was sitting 508 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: there waiting for things to load, or it wouldn't respond 509 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 3: to my inputs or. 510 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 7: Anything like that. 511 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: And the screen the first thing I noticed when I 512 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: took it out of the box. I was expecting a 513 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: nice screen, and the screen looks like it's from five 514 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: six years ago. It's just it's not that clear, it's 515 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: not that bright. And I hate to knock this thing 516 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: because I really want to like this and be able 517 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: to recommend this to people because it's a nice, simple tablet. 518 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: But I just feel like the software just really hampers this. 519 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: And unless you are literally just watching you know, videos, 520 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: or maybe just playing roadblocks or maybe just you know, 521 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: kind of doing that, there's really not much more you 522 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: can do on the thing. Like even surfing the web 523 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: is not fun because you're kind of tied to bing 524 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: and like all these different things that they try to 525 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: trick you on, and it's just it's not a very 526 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: good experience, let's put it that way. 527 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love for Amazon to kind of go 528 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: back to the drawing board and revisit its software experience 529 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: and really, like, you know, the hardware is the hardware, 530 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 3: and for two hundred and thirty bucks, I don't really 531 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 3: have a lot to complain about the hardware, but the 532 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: software just kind of ruins the whole experience for me. 533 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: Someone needs to come up with a one click install 534 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: of like clean Android software for this device, and it 535 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: would be amazing. All right, Dancy if we're going to 536 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: leave it there. Deputy editor at the Verge. Where can 537 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,120 Speaker 1: folks find you these days? Online? 538 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 7: You can find me at the Verge. 539 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: It's probably the best place to look. You can also 540 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 3: find me on Master Darn if you happen to use that. 541 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: I don't find myself using Twittered very much anymore these days, 542 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: but you can definitely find all of my work and 543 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: a lot of my thoughts and usings on the Verge. 544 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: Awesome, Dan Seffert from the Verge, thank you so much 545 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: for joining me today. Coming up, I'm going to tell 546 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: you about this email that you probably got an update 547 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: to album archive, Google killing another product. I'll explain what 548 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: that's all about, plus more of your calls at Triple 549 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: eight Rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four 550 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. You are listening to 551 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: Rich on tech. Let's go to Brian and Westport, Washington. Brian, 552 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: you're on with Rich. Thanks for calling out today. 553 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 8: Sure, hopefully it will be a fun question for you. 554 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 8: Can tech executives themselves be replaced by artificial intelligence? You 555 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 8: got your ears all the tech stuff. Is it possible? 556 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 8: That's the reason why they're so concerned about AI is 557 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 8: that they themselves can get replaced in their own jobs. 558 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 6: What do you think, ooh. 559 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: Good question. You know, I think that at this point, 560 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: anyone is up for grabs, any job is up for 561 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: grabs when it comes to AI. So we are just 562 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: at the beginning of AI. We are just figuring out 563 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: what it can do. The power of this technology. And 564 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: there's been many, many studies. I'm looking at one here. 565 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: You know, according to experts, tools like chat GBT have 566 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: the potential to disrupt certain jobs, especially those in white 567 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: collar professions intermediate level skills and experience. Some jobs that 568 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: are at risk include coders, computer programmers, software engineers, data analysts. 569 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: AI can number, crunch and code faster than humans. Then 570 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: you've got media jobs, advertising, content creation, technical writing, and 571 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: also journalism could be affected because these things are so 572 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: efficient at writing. Then you've got the legal industry. Jobs 573 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: like paralegals and legal assistants could be impacted because AI 574 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: can handle these language and structured tasks. And then of 575 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: course you have market research analysts, teachers, finance industry jobs, traders, 576 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: graphic designers, accountants, and customer service agents all up for 577 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: grabs when it comes to disruption by AI. Now here's 578 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: the thing. Many experts believe that AI is going to 579 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: be a productivity enhancing tool rather than just a complete 580 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: replacement for human workers. But at the same time, you 581 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: have to keep in mind that there will be some 582 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: fallout from this. Now I can tell you personally when 583 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm using AI for already on a daily basis, and 584 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: it is kind of like the way I think about it. 585 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: And we debate this stuff in my family all the time, 586 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: as my kids say, oh, well, nobody's gonna have to 587 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: write a paper for school and this and that. Well, 588 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: here's what's happening. We as humans are getting more of 589 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: our brain freed up to do even higher tasks than 590 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: we used to have to be able to do. Let 591 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: me give you an example. So when I post a 592 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: Instagram reel right to my Instagram at richon Tech, it 593 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: used to take me a couple of minutes to come 594 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: up with a couple of hashtags for that reel that video. 595 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: If it was a video that I just posted the 596 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: other day about a hologram, I would think, okay, hologram, holographic, 597 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: three D video chat video chatting, And I'd have to 598 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: sit there and really think about some of these terms 599 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: that might work for that reel and get people to 600 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: click on it. Well, now what do I do. I 601 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: just copy my script that I wrote for the video 602 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: into Bard, which is Google's version of chatch ebt, and 603 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: I say, give me ten Instagram hashtags for this, And 604 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: within seconds I've got my ten hashtags. I copy, I 605 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: paste them, I put them into Instagram. Now did that 606 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: ruin my job? No? Now did it ruin some apps 607 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: that I might have turned to pay for to get 608 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: those hashtags? Absolutely, there's a whole cottage industry of services 609 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: and apps and things that will be disrupted by this 610 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: technology because you just don't need them anymore. Let me 611 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: give you another example. Summarizing things. You want to summarize 612 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: an article, you can use an extension on Chrome to 613 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: summarize that article something that may have taken someone. Let's 614 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: say you have a producer for your show, Like for me, 615 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: for a radio show, you may have had a producer 616 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: that would summarize things for you and give you notes 617 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: on your guests. Well, now you can do that all 618 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: in five seconds on CHATGBT or Google Bard. Hey give 619 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: me a brief background on this person comparing things, I 620 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: mean shopping. It is so powerful. I've been using the 621 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: new Google Search. It is so powerful. I can't tell 622 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: you how incredible it is. It's it's so good that 623 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: I actually am considering a switch to an Android phone 624 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: to have better access to this stuff. I've actually set 625 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: up my iPhone in a different way just to get 626 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: better and easier access to the Google Bar system when 627 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: I do my searches. So will the executives be replaced? Yes, 628 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: some of them will be? Will I be replaced? Will 629 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: the person next to be replaced? Who knows? This is 630 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: all too new to know exactly what it's going to 631 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: replace and the impact it's going to have. But the 632 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: bottom line is it is going to have a major 633 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: impact on our world and there is no going back, 634 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: that is for sure. All Right, coming up on the show, 635 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: we still got lots to talk about. I'm gonna explain 636 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: this album archive from Google. I'm gonna do that right 637 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: when we come back, because I know I've been talking 638 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: about it for a bit. Then later in the show, 639 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: we've got some great guests. We're gonna talk about lab 640 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: grown cheese, and then later diabetes tech plus. If you 641 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: want to hop on the phone, give me a call. 642 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight 643 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: seven four to two four to one zero one. You 644 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: are listening to rich on tech. Looks like we've got 645 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: a line open, So give me a call. Get in 646 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: with your question, comment suggestion. Well, I don't know about suggestions. 647 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't know I phone. I'll open myself up to that. 648 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: I get enough of that through the internet, believe me. 649 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: The good news is I know that you're listening to 650 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: this show because I get a lot of emails from you, 651 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: So I am very happy about that. Oh email also 652 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: is hello at richon tech dot TV. It's interesting being 653 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: on TV versus radio. 654 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: TV. 655 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: I get emails, but radio much more details, much more 656 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: detailed emails about what I'm talking about and what I'm doing. 657 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: So it's just different mediums. I guess. 658 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 7: Uh. 659 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of TV, you can watch my TV segments on 660 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: the website. Just go to rich on tech dot TV. 661 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: You know, I cover a variety of tech topics. The 662 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: latest thing I did is a hologram kind of box 663 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: that it's expensive, but it's one of those I don't 664 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: know how you explain it. It's just it looks like 665 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: you're a hologram. You step in this box, or you 666 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: step in front of the studio and they beam you 667 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: into this box and you literally look three D. It's 668 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: pretty cool. I've always wanted to become a hologram and 669 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: now I have. All Right, let's go to Tim in 670 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: more Park, California. Tim, you're on with Rich. Welcome to 671 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: the show. 672 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 6: Program. Should I use to put on an old Dell 673 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 6: computer as Windows ten on it? 674 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 9: Now? 675 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 6: It's too old to put Windows eleven on it? And 676 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 6: there's a program to put on there. Also, if I 677 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 6: have an old if I use an old phone that 678 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 6: I plug in the wall, I can call a radio station. 679 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 6: But if I use a portable handheld house phone, there's 680 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 6: a time delay and I can't call the radio station. 681 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about the question number two, but 682 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: I can't help you with question number one. So your 683 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: computer's too old for Windows eleven. It's you're referring to 684 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: something I've mentioned in the past called Chrome os Flex, 685 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: and this pretty much turns an old Windows or Mac 686 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: computer into a chromebook and it's very easy to install. 687 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: You can put it on a USB drive, You pop 688 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: the USB drive into your device, and then you can 689 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: install Chrome os flex. So the main things you need 690 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: to know about this, You got to have eight gigs 691 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: of storage on the drive, got to have a Windows 692 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: PC or a Mac. The Mac I believe runs it 693 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: from the drive, and then you also have to have 694 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: some internal storage on there as well, so you can 695 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: see all of the requirements if you just google Chrome 696 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: os flex. That's what the deal is. And the neat 697 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: thing about it is that it turns an old computer. 698 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: It kind of gives it a couple more years and 699 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: you'll be able to do the basics on here. This 700 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: is not gonna be able to run Android apps or 701 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: any sort of specialized apps, but you will have full 702 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: access to the web, and let's be honest, for like 703 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of what you need to do, 704 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: the web is going to be just fine. And this 705 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: is going to take an old computer and just kind 706 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: of make it new again. And again it works on 707 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: max PCs. They won't really slow down because this doesn't 708 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: need much to run. And so it's one of these 709 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: things where you can breathe an extra couple of years 710 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: of life into your device. And it is free, so 711 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: you don't really need to do much more except install it. 712 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: And I'll put the link on the website. Rich on 713 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: tech dot tv. There are some certified models and you 714 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: can check that on the installation guide as well. But 715 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: it's very very simple once once you make that little 716 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: USB drive, it's pretty simple to get this thing on there. 717 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: Let's see, I'm looking at the requirements. Minimum device requirements 718 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 1: Intel or AMD eighty six, four gigs of RAMS, sixteen 719 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: gigs of internal storage a USB drive. You do need 720 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: full BIOS access and oh oh, hold on. Components made 721 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: before twenty ten might result in a poor experience. So 722 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: if your computer is that old, then yes, it may 723 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: be time for an update. But otherwise this is gonna 724 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 1: work pretty well. And it's just one of these things 725 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: where it's nice to know that you can do this 726 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: for free. All right, I'll put that link on there. 727 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of Google, and I didn't mean to avoid your 728 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: second question, Tim, but I'm not really sure and I 729 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: think that's highly specialized to calling a radio station, so 730 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: I think that, I mean, yeah, I'm not sure of 731 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: that one. Okay, So if you have a Google account, 732 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: you probably got this scary email that said an update 733 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: to album archive. What does that mean? Hey, Rich, you're 734 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: receiving this email because you've viewed album archive recently, or 735 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: you may have some content that's visible in album arc 736 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: starting on July nineteenth, twenty twenty three, album archive will 737 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: no longer be available. Now I'm thinking, I don't even 738 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: know what album archive is, but now I'm scared that 739 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm losing access to album archive. We recommend using Google 740 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: Takeout to download a copy of your album archive data 741 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: before then. What is the album archive? No idea. Here's 742 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: some content that's only available in album archive and it 743 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: will be deleted July nineteenth. Rare cases like small thumbnail 744 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: photos and album comments or likes. What is that some 745 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: Google Hangouts data from album archive? Okay, that's those Google 746 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: hangouts was back in the day when we were chatting 747 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 1: with Google Hangouts. This is my favorite one. Background images 748 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: uploaded in the Gmail theme picker prior to twenty eighteen. 749 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: If you're missing a background image that you uploaded to 750 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: Gmail prior to twenty eighteen, I think by this time 751 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: you can let go of that. Now, if you'd like 752 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: to access this data, please make a copy using Google Takeout. 753 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: You can also view the content directly. So some of 754 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 1: the other things that we're in this was Blogger. Long 755 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: story short, I'm not even gonna spend that much time 756 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: on this because it's just kind of nonsense. Just go 757 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: to get dot google dot com slash album archive. That is, 758 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: get dot Google dot com slash album archive, and that 759 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: will show you all of the stuff that you have 760 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: in this mysterious album archive. And so I found one 761 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: picture of Swedish meatballs in sauce that I have no 762 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: idea where that's from. I don't know if I had 763 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: this at Ikea back in the day. This was from 764 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. I must have posted that picture that was 765 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: to Blogger. And then in my hangout photos, I did 766 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: have a couple of photos in there from various chats 767 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: that I had over the years, and I went through 768 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: and I I did kind of a cross reference. So 769 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: I clicked the photo and I clicked a little info 770 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: on it, and then I took the photo name, and 771 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: I then popped that into Google Photos to see if 772 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: I had a copy of that picture. And out of 773 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: almost every picture that I looked at, just kind of 774 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: a spot check, I had them all my Google Photos, 775 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: because if you think about it, these were all photos 776 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: that I chatted, I sent to someone on a chat, 777 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: and so I probably sent them from my phone at 778 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: some point, and so I probably took them on my phone. 779 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: But anyway, if you're curious about this whole thing, I 780 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: think you're probably gonna be okay. But just go to 781 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: get dot Google dot com slash album archive to see 782 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: if you have anything in this mysterious I know everyone's 783 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: like Google is shutting down another product. They're so wishy 784 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: washy with their products, they don't care about anything. But 785 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: this is the stuff that nobody has used in a 786 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: long time. Let me let's see another Let me just 787 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: do one more Google story before we go here. You 788 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: probably heard about this as well. It was all over 789 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: the news. If you clicked on a Google search link 790 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: between twenty twenty six and twenty thirteen, you might be 791 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: eligible to receive some money. Twenty three million dollars. Well, 792 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: guess how much you're gonna get seven dollars and seventy cents. 793 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: And guess what that requires you to do. You have 794 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: to fill out your full name, your address, and your 795 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: email by July thirty first. So if you want to 796 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: do this, that's fine. I'm not judging you for it. 797 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: But I saw all the headlines everywhere that made you 798 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: click right, Google owes you money. Yeah, I searched Google. 799 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: How much am I going to get out of this 800 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: twenty three million less than eight bucks. Is my name, 801 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: address and email worth eight dollars? Probably not. I am 802 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: not giving this information to some random legal firm so 803 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: that I can potentially get a seven dollars and seventy 804 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: cent check down the line. Now, I will say today 805 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: I did get Let's see if I can find it. 806 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: I got a PayPal notification that I did get. Oh gosh, 807 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: what was this Avis Budget Group? I got thirty seven 808 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: dollars for an e tole settlement today, So these things 809 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: do work. But I don't even remember putting my information 810 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: in for this e toll settlement from Budget Avis. I 811 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: didn't even know those were part of the same company. 812 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: So anyway, if you want to do the Google search thing, 813 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold it against you. But for seven 814 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: dollars and seventy cents, I mean, these these class action settlements, 815 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 1: they sound great. Google has to pay twenty three million 816 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: dollars because of privacy concerns, But the average person really 817 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: gets nothing out of this. The lawyers they're gonna make 818 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: out really really well. I'm sure they're getting more than 819 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: seven dollars and seventy cents. Again, I'll put it all 820 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: on the website. Rich on tech dot TV. All right, 821 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: as Kim would say, I'm getting fired up eight eight 822 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven four 823 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: to two four to one zero one. I'm gonna try 824 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: to get our special guests on coming up, but we 825 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,919 Speaker 1: are going to talk to Jason Horn, food writer about 826 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: muzzarella cheese grown in a lab. I'll tell you what 827 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: I thought of that, plus more of your calls and 828 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: the top tech scams text t e X tape. You're 829 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: listening to rich on tech. Uh do we have the 830 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: special guest? It looks like we do. Okay, let's let's 831 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: bring up. Let's see here we are well line six? Mom, Yes, Hi, Hello, 832 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. 833 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 9: Hi, thank you. 834 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 1: So this is my mom in New Jersey. You are 835 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: you actually listen to the show, don't you? How do 836 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: you listen? 837 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 9: I go to my Google home and ask it to 838 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 9: play KFI. 839 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: I love it. Well, that's good. See if I had 840 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: a little ding, i'd say ding. That's right. And so 841 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: what do you think of the show? Do you think 842 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: the host is good? 843 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 2: Or what. 844 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 9: You meaning that you're the host? 845 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 7: Yes? 846 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 9: I hope I maybe byas but yes, no, I think 847 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 9: you're You're amazing. 848 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 1: What you do is the information easy to understand because 849 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 1: the show, you know, I'm trying to make the show 850 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: understandable by a lot of people, including I always say 851 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: my mom, and that's you. So are you understanding the show? 852 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 9: Yeah? Most of it. I mean I think you tried 853 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 9: to talk in terms that the average non high tech 854 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 9: person can understand. 855 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, the reason I call you is a very 856 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: important one. You were telling me that they change something 857 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: and that is AOL. Yes, you love AOL. 858 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 9: I guess you could say that, and yeah, go. 859 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: Ahead, what do you What do you like about AOL? 860 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: Many people might not even realize that AOL is still around, 861 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 1: but then there's a lot of people that actually still 862 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: use it. 863 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 9: Yes, that is true. Yeah, a lot of people don't 864 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 9: use AOL anymore. But that was the first email. I 865 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 9: don't even know what you call it, thing I used, 866 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 9: and I guess I just never really wanted to change it. 867 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: And so what happened this week? You called me up 868 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,879 Speaker 1: frantically and you said, Richard, you call me Richard when 869 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: you're you know, and you said, and you said what 870 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: you said, I don't like this? 871 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 9: Okay, So yeah, initially, I didn't like it because they 872 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 9: changed the format and as far as I know, they 873 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 9: didn't give a warning, like all of a sudden, it 874 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 9: was just changed. 875 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 8: And I guess that. 876 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 9: Threw me where wow, And I didn't initially like it. 877 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 9: I am getting used to it. 878 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 1: That's good. So you're getting used to the new a well, 879 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't even think that. I mean, I'm 880 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: sure there's probably one person working on the AOL program, 881 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: because I don't even know what's happening with AO. All 882 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: these days. You're still using like the downloaded program on 883 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: your computer. It's not like you're going to AOL dot com. 884 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 9: I have no idea. 885 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 2: Just saw my desktop. 886 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 9: I really don't know. You probably put it there for me. 887 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so all of the formatting changed. But now you're 888 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: saying you're getting used to it, So it's. 889 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 9: Okay now, well, because I guess I've gotten used to it. 890 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 9: The one thing that I decided I'm not that crazy about. 891 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 10: When you click on an email, you don't see the 892 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 10: entire email. There's a little arrow on the right side 893 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 10: of the email that you have to click on to 894 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 10: expand the email to see the entire email. And that 895 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 10: little arrow is. 896 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 9: So teeny tiny that it's kind of hard to see. 897 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 9: Like it's not in a bright color, it's like a 898 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 9: light gray, so you know, you kind of have to 899 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 9: really look to. 900 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 2: Find it. 901 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: Okay, well, as long as you know it's there. And 902 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: do you think they're there's a connotation when people get 903 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: your email from AOL dot com. Do you think people 904 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: judge you for that? 905 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 11: Probably? 906 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I think so. They probably wonder why do 907 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 9: you still have AOL? 908 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: And why do you you what's your answer? 909 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 9: That's a good question. I guess I'm just very loyal, 910 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 9: all right. I don't really I don't really have a 911 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 9: better answer than that. I just I just always liked it. 912 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: I guess that's. 913 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 9: Really the reason. I mean, you know, I do have Gmail, 914 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 9: but I don't use it very often. 915 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay for work, but I do have it. As 916 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: of let's see here, As of twenty twenty one, one 917 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four million people still go to AOL. 918 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it's like users. Two point one million 919 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 1: people still use AOL's dial up service. That was in 920 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. 921 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 9: I didn't know they still have that. 922 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't thing. Yeah you remember that? And then 923 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: one point five million US or pay for AOL and 924 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: twenty one. Good news is you don't pay for it. 925 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: It's free anyway. Thanks for calling in, Mom, or I guess. 926 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: Thanks for being on the show. Appreciate it. 927 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 9: Oh, thanks for having me. And I have one other 928 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 9: thing to say. 929 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I'm nervous. What we don't let people do 930 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: this on the radio. Surprise me? 931 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 9: Oh okay, well I'm gonna surprise you Happy Father's Day. 932 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. 933 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 7: All right, you're welcome. 934 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: There we go. We had the dings. I love it, 935 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 1: all right, Mom, love you, see you letter. 936 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 9: I love you too, alright bye. 937 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: All right, there you have it. Mom on the show 938 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: for the first time and the ding from nowhere. I 939 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: love it. Oh, this show is really uh, we're really 940 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: really making strides here after our Google meet fiasco earlier today. 941 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,879 Speaker 1: There we go. Okay, Google lens man, is everything about 942 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: Google today? What is happening here? Everything's about Google. One 943 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: quick thing to know about Google lens. You can now 944 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: search for skin conditions, so Google Lens app. They have 945 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: added skin conditions. So Google says describing an odd mole 946 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 1: or rash on your skin can be hard with words alone. 947 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: So now you can snap a picture of that situation 948 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: on your skin, upload it through Google Lens, and you'll 949 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: find visual matches to inform your search. You can also 950 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: use it for bumps on your lip, align on your nails, 951 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: or hair loss on your head. The feature is currently 952 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,760 Speaker 1: available in the US. If you're wondering how to access 953 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: Google Lens. It looks like the little camera icon on 954 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: the Google search bar, so you can use it for 955 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: skin conditions, but Google says it is not a diagnosis. 956 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: All right, coming up here, we are going to talk 957 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: fake cheese, lab grown muzzarella with food writer Jason Horn. 958 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: And if you have a question, give me a call 959 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: Triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight 960 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 1: seven four to two, four to one zero one. My 961 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: name is Rich Dmiro. I'm having way too much fun 962 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: hanging out out here with you talking technology. We got 963 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: lots more to come. Stay tuned, all right, So I 964 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: got a fun little conversation here. We're going to talk 965 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: lab grown cheese and why would anyone want to eat that? Well, 966 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. We're going to discuss Jason Horn is 967 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: joining me, food writer. His social is Messy Epicure. Jason, 968 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 969 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 12: Thank you very much, thanks for having me. 970 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: So you and I were at an event together where 971 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 1: we met Pizzeria Moza, and this was an event for 972 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: a cheese called New Culture, And you want to take 973 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: it from there? What is New Culture? 974 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 7: Sure? 975 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, So basically they're kind of going a step further 976 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 12: than the fake cheese that's on the market now and 977 00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 12: they're making real quote unquote fake cheese. So yeah, the 978 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 12: idea is they have found a way to produce cassion, 979 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 12: which is the protein that is in cow milk, that 980 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 12: is in cheese without cows, using some kind of bacterial fermentation, 981 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 12: and they make that into mazzarella. 982 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: Now they've never mentioned that this is lab grown cheese. 983 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 1: They don't use that terminology, but I do, And this 984 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,760 Speaker 1: is this lab grown? Or am I just being overly dramatic? 985 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,919 Speaker 12: I mean I suppose at some point the lab gets 986 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 12: big enough, but. 987 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 7: It's a factory. 988 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 12: But yeah, they're sort of taking the individual components of 989 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 12: cheese and mixing them up into a cheese that is 990 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 12: not didn't come from cows, didn't come from milk. 991 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 1: And so we tried this cheese at Pizzeria Moza, which 992 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: is a pretty famous pizza place in Hollywood, California. It's 993 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 1: been around forever. The chef is very famous, Nancy Silverton. 994 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 1: So it's not like this is just some fly by 995 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: night place that's trying this. This is like a real 996 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: peace place. 997 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 12: No, this is Yeah, this is a big deal. Like 998 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 12: Nancy's Overton's a big name chef, she's big in the 999 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 12: pizza world, and she's kind of, as I understand it, 1000 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 12: kind of their first like chef partner. She's on board 1001 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,280 Speaker 12: with them. They're sort of jumping into this whole thing. 1002 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: Together now before we get into like how this tasted 1003 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: and kind of the night. This stuff is expensive, So 1004 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: the one thing they didn't really talk about was how 1005 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,800 Speaker 1: expensive this cheese is to make. And when I press 1006 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: them on this, they said they want to be competitive, 1007 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: but they don't really have anything to say about it 1008 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: until next year. So is this cheese really expensive? Because 1009 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: Nancy joked when she was shredding it that don't drop 1010 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: a piece of it because it's like gold. 1011 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1012 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 12: I mean I did hear someone said that, you know, 1013 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 12: the small group of us in the room, we're eating 1014 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,919 Speaker 12: like thousands of dollars worth of cheese. So I mean, 1015 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,760 Speaker 12: this is not something that's going to be on the market. 1016 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 12: They said it'll be in the restaurant in twenty twenty four, 1017 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 12: So like this is very early stage. I mean, I 1018 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 12: think it's probably incredibly expensive to make right now, but 1019 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 12: the goal is to make more of it cheaper and 1020 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 12: to become competitive with standard cheese eventually. 1021 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 1: And of course the question is why do this? And 1022 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: there's many reasons. The reason for new culture they say, 1023 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: it's all about sustainability. This cheese is different than plant 1024 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: based cheeses. It's not made with nuts, it melts, its stretches, 1025 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 1: it's vegan, it's lactose and cholesterol free. What do you 1026 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: make of this whole world of like these companies that 1027 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 1: are coming up with stuff because I report on this 1028 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: stuff a lot and people always give me a hard time, 1029 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: like it, just eat the real stuff. But is there 1030 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: a reason why these companies are making this stuff? 1031 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1032 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 12: I think so. I mean a lot of people, you know, 1033 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 12: don't want to eat dairy, don't want to eat meat. 1034 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 12: They're trying to for all sorts of different reasons. Sometimes 1035 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 12: it might be for dietary reasons. Sometimes it might be 1036 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,919 Speaker 12: for sustainability reasons, you know, sometimes it might be for 1037 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 12: you know, cruelty to animal reasons, like you just don't 1038 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 12: want to eat animal products. There are a lot of 1039 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 12: reasons someone might want pay plant based mozzarella substitute. But 1040 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 12: the problem is, you know, if you're not eating cheese, 1041 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 12: you're not eating cheese, so like, you know, you sort 1042 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 12: of like you've given up mozzarella, Like you don't need 1043 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 12: an exact substitute of mozzarella. It kind of defeats the purpose. 1044 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's that's always kind of the question 1045 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 1: I have. It's like if you're if you're not eating 1046 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: this stuff, it's like, are you really seeking out just 1047 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: a different version of it? 1048 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,399 Speaker 12: Exactly? Yeah, I don't know that. Like there are people 1049 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,399 Speaker 12: who eat cheese right now who would switch to non 1050 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 12: dairy if only there was a perfect mozzarella substitute. In 1051 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 12: a lot of ways, this and some of the lab 1052 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 12: grown meat, which I think we're going to get into 1053 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 12: a little bit, they're sort of solving a problem that 1054 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 12: doesn't really exist. 1055 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's before we get as a lab grown meat, 1056 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: which I was actually on LinkedIn earlier and I saw 1057 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: that just that does the eggs they're doing meat apparently, 1058 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, so it's it's so anyway, Okay, So 1059 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,879 Speaker 1: let's talk about the taste of this cheese. So what 1060 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: were your thoughts. We tried it on pizza, we tried 1061 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,359 Speaker 1: it on some rice balls and in an eggplant sort 1062 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 1: of palm dish. What was your thought of this cheese? 1063 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 12: So, I mean, I feel like we only got to 1064 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 12: try kind of the cheese really on its own on 1065 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 12: the pizza. The first two it was sort of mixing 1066 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 12: with other stuff, so you couldn't really get a good 1067 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 12: impression what it tasted like. But on the pizza, I mean, 1068 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 12: the stretch was really good. I definitely have not seen 1069 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 12: a plant based cheese that like melts and stretches quite 1070 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 12: like that. So the texture was really good that the 1071 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 12: flavor was right. I mean we got to taste also 1072 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 12: like a few shreds of kind of the raw cheese, 1073 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 12: and it tasted like mozzarella cheese. There was something I 1074 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 12: don't know if it was just like in my head 1075 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 12: because I knew it wasn't it was you know what 1076 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 12: it was. There was something slightly off about the texture. 1077 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 12: I can't really describe exactly what it was. It was 1078 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,280 Speaker 12: like it was almost two stretchy. 1079 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 1: It was almost well the actual texture. It was a 1080 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: little bit not as like bitey, I don't know if 1081 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: that's a word, but like it didn't like it was 1082 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 1: a little mushier, almost like a valveda, like if you 1083 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: if you sliced like a velveto. 1084 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 12: It was like it was like three Yeah, it was. 1085 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 12: It was softer, yes. 1086 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 1: Softer, yeah, and like almost like silkier. The other thing 1087 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: that I thought was that it wasn't as salty as 1088 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: regular cheese, which is easily fixable. 1089 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,799 Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly, that's yeah. I mean part of it I 1090 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 12: think might have been just because they were trying to 1091 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 12: show off this cheese. They really like went back on 1092 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 12: the seasonings on the rest of this stuff. But yeah, 1093 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 12: I mean that you're right about that. But that's that's 1094 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 12: such an easy problem to fix. It didn't even stick 1095 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 12: in my mind. 1096 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: So you've been covering food for a long time. I mean, 1097 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: obviously there's a need for this stuff, and I like 1098 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 1: the fact that this is cholesterol free, lactose free, you know, vegan. 1099 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: I mean, there are people that are seeking this type 1100 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 1: of thing out, But why do we see such an emphasis. 1101 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean the fake meats, the fake cheeses, I mean 1102 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: basically fake everything and is it fake or is it real? 1103 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 12: Well, yeah, it's the thing that New Culture said was 1104 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 12: they're calling themselves the first real vegan cheese because it 1105 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 12: has the real protein that's in cheese. I mean, it's 1106 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 12: silly to use the terms fake and real with this. 1107 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 12: I like, you know, vegan cheese for example, or plant 1108 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 12: based cheese a little less because plant based is also 1109 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 12: kind of you know, iffy. But like, you know, vegan 1110 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 12: cheese makes sense because there's no animal products in it. 1111 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 12: That's kind of the point of it. I mean I 1112 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 12: think that like there are reasons to look for this stuff. 1113 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 12: There are you know, environmental reasons. Cows are pretty bad 1114 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 12: for the environment. I just at this point, this cheese 1115 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 12: is probably just as bad for the environment. Like when 1116 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 12: we had that dinner, that was you know, months of work. 1117 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 12: It had been presumably flown in from northern California. They 1118 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 12: held all the executives along with it. So like they've 1119 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 12: got a long way to go before they're making it, 1120 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 12: you know, at a high in a volume that it's 1121 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 12: going to make any difference. 1122 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 1: Ooh and one thing that I kind of led my 1123 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: review with for KTLA is that I had to sign 1124 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 1: a waiver to eat this cheese. 1125 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 12: Yes, indeed, that was the first time I've ever had 1126 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 12: to sign a waiver to taste of food for sure. 1127 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: Right, that was a little concerning. And I said to 1128 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: the CEO, Matt Gibson, who was standing there, a CEO 1129 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 1: of New Culture, and I said, Matt, is this stuff safe? 1130 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean, what am I eating here that I have 1131 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 1: to sign a waiver. I've never had to sign a 1132 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: waiver to eat something. 1133 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 12: That is true. I feel like it was mostly to 1134 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 12: protect the restaurant, because you know, the restaurant wasn't exactly 1135 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 12: serving the cheese. Yeah, it's a weird situation because it 1136 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 12: is kind of this like it's an experimental food that 1137 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 12: you know, we in theory something in there could have 1138 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 12: made a sick but like all the parts of it 1139 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 12: are things that are in other foods, Like it's just 1140 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 12: it's mixing existing foods together in a new way. 1141 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 1: I just left there in a cold sweat. I woke 1142 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night thinking, oh my gosh, 1143 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: there's going to be something in that cheese that is 1144 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: like a spore or some sort of like thing that 1145 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: will never come out of my body and I'm going 1146 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: to die from eating this cheese. I didn't, thankfully, but 1147 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 1: that's what I woke up thinking in the middle of 1148 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: the night. 1149 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 12: Right, Yeah, I don't think they're using, you know, some 1150 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 12: kind of alien microbe that fell from space and their cheese. 1151 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 12: But they were pretty cagey about the fermentation process and 1152 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,479 Speaker 12: what exactly makes the case. 1153 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: They were exactly all right, We're going to leave it there. 1154 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: Food writer Jason Horn, you are at messy epicure on 1155 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: social media. What kind of stuff do you cover your 1156 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: in your day to day. 1157 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 12: Kind of everything food and drink and cooking, so you know, 1158 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 12: everything from I was writing about the best Indian cookbooks 1159 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 12: this week and the best cheap blood because last week. 1160 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 12: So really really everything food and drink related. I've covered 1161 00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 12: it all. 1162 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Do you remember what that You remember what the top 1163 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: recommendation was for the cheap vodka just asking for a friend. 1164 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 12: Oh my god, it was I think it was Taca Taca. 1165 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Okay, well you heard it here first. Sounds like something 1166 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 1: I might have had in college. 1167 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 10: Uh. 1168 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Jason Horn, thanks so much for joining me today. I 1169 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks rich all right, take care one. All right. 1170 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: If you want more information about anything I mentioned here again, 1171 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: go to the website. Rich on tech dot TV coming 1172 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: up more of your calls. Looks like the lines are filled. 1173 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 1: So that's exciting, and I'm gonna talk about this. Where 1174 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: is it here? I've got the top text scams. These 1175 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 1: are interesting. So you always get these text scams, you know, 1176 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 1: these little text messages that are trying to scam you. 1177 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 1: I always wondered what's the end game. I've got one, two, three, four, 1178 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 1: five of the top text message scams. I'm gonna explain 1179 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: what they're trying to get out of you when they 1180 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,439 Speaker 1: text you that package is lost or whatever they say. 1181 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: You're listening to Rich Marshall is in Recita, California. Marshall, 1182 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 1: you're on with Writch Hi fell in New Jersey and 1183 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 1: Oh what's up New Jersey? 1184 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it's been a lot of time. I haven't 1185 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 11: seen you in the Amazon press on Topanga recently. I 1186 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 11: ran you have the first that I met with the 1187 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 11: first tour, first opening. 1188 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: Oh was that you? 1189 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1190 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: I remember, yes, Oh that was so long ago. 1191 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,439 Speaker 11: Yeah. Anyways, that phone that I had, that no Tony 1192 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 11: Ultra that I had, I was that Daughter stadium and 1193 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 11: I think I put on top of my buddy's car 1194 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 11: and drove off without getting it, and I lost it. 1195 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 11: And I'm not too right because I didn't back anything up, 1196 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 11: including my contact, my notes, and a lot of other 1197 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 11: stuff that I want to almost kill myself for doing, Okay, 1198 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 11: And I was hoping that somehow, you know, somehow miracle 1199 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 11: was able to be done, somehow, that if somebody in fact, 1200 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 11: somehow rechieved the phone and got it somehow, that you 1201 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 11: know that I am numbers or whatever. All those numbers 1202 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 11: that are inside the phone like that they're basic, like 1203 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 11: a thumbprint or something like that. If they ever tried 1204 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 11: to reactivate it again, then something he would be able 1205 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 11: to be found and retrieved because it would be working 1206 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 11: on the same numbers somehow. Is there some hope that 1207 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 11: there's somebody trying to find it at all? 1208 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? So number one, have you checked out Google Find Mine? 1209 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 11: I think somebody tried to do it in the store. 1210 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 11: I don't know if they did it and they couldn't 1211 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 11: find it at the time. I don't know, Okay, I 1212 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 11: think they did that and they couldn't find it if 1213 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 11: I recall correctly. Forgive me, but I'm not tech savvy, 1214 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 11: so I don't know how to do a lot of 1215 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 11: stuff at all. 1216 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: No, that's fine. So I think the first thing to 1217 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 1: do is, do you have access to a computer outside 1218 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 1: of the phone. No, don't in the library, okay, so 1219 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 1: go to the library. Do you know your Google login information? 1220 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 7: Yes? 1221 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So go to Google dot com slash slash Android 1222 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 1: slash find. Okay, that's the first thing you need to do. 1223 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: And so when you go there, you'll get You're gonna 1224 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: have to log into your Google account and you will 1225 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 1: see a list of your devices. If it's only this 1226 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 1: one device, you should see it on there. You click 1227 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 1: that device, it will tell you. 1228 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 11: I had a bunch more. 1229 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've lost more than one device, Marshall. 1230 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 11: So over the past ten fifteen years, I've lost four devices. 1231 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 1: Oh my okay. We got to come up with a 1232 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: new solution for you not to lose these things. Have 1233 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: you ever heard of a leash that you know, those 1234 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 1: chains that people use for their wallets. You can get 1235 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 1: one of those phone. 1236 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 11: I've resorted to put it on lanard on my phone, okay, 1237 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 11: to have a big lantern hanging off with so I 1238 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 11: try to wrap it around my wrist. I still left 1239 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,919 Speaker 11: it behind a couple of times, but I'm getting much 1240 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:37,560 Speaker 11: better at it now. 1241 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So notwithstanding, you're going to find when you log 1242 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 1: into here, you're going to find a lot of devices 1243 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: that you've left in places over the years. But once 1244 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: you go to this website, Google Find my device, you 1245 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: can tap the device and there's a couple of things 1246 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 1: you can do. You can play a sound that's not 1247 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: really going to help unless the device is nearby. You 1248 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 1: can secure the device and that will actually lock the 1249 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 1: device and sign out of your Google account. That's given 1250 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 1: this device has Internet still it may not, and then 1251 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 1: you could erase the device. So it'll also show you 1252 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 1: where that device is on a map, so you can 1253 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,920 Speaker 1: see if you know the last known location of that device. Now, 1254 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: if this flew off of someone's car in a parking lot, 1255 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,160 Speaker 1: chances are you're probably not going to retrieve it. But 1256 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: I will tell you my father left his phone on 1257 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 1: top of his car and it did fly off, and 1258 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 1: I showed him how to do this, and he did 1259 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,760 Speaker 1: see where it was located on the side of the freeway, 1260 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:35,439 Speaker 1: and he was adventure and adventurous enough to go back 1261 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 1: and he did retrieve his phone and he found it 1262 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 1: and it was great. The phone was ruined. But the 1263 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: best part was the case was just fine. And when 1264 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: he got his new phone, he put the old case 1265 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 1: that had been run over one hundred times on the 1266 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,479 Speaker 1: freeway on his new phone. So it goes to show 1267 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 1: you the dedication he had to that case, which, by 1268 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 1: the way, I recommended to him, and that's what saved 1269 01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 1: the whole situation. Anyway, that's what you need to do. 1270 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: Look for this device on your Google Find my see 1271 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,479 Speaker 1: if it's on there. Now when it comes to your 1272 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 1: information on this device, there's a couple places to look. 1273 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 1: Google is really good about backing up devices, even if 1274 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 1: you don't think they're backed up. And so the first 1275 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: place I want you to look for your contacts is 1276 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 1: contacts dot Google dot com, and you may find that 1277 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 1: all of your contacts are miraculously in there. I'm gonna 1278 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 1: bet they are. And then the other place I want 1279 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 1: you to look is one dot Google dot com. This 1280 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 1: is spelled out the word one O N E dot 1281 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Google dot com. And inside there you can tap storage 1282 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 1: and then you can go into it says your device backups, 1283 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 1: and I can see I've got my Google Pixel, my 1284 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 1: Galaxy S twenty three Ultra, and it will tell me 1285 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 1: backed up nineteen hours ago, and then you can see 1286 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 1: details and lo and behold, I can see photos and videos, 1287 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: SMS messages, call history, device settings, and then eighty one apps. 1288 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 1: Now the notes is going to depend on the apps, 1289 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 1: the app you use for notes. If you use Google Keep, 1290 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 1: you can go to keep dot Google dot com and 1291 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 1: check for your notes in there. They may be in there. 1292 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 1: If this was a Samsung, you may be using Samsung's 1293 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 1: proprietary notes program, which is sometimes linked to one note 1294 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 1: on Microsoft if you decided to do that. Other times 1295 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: it's not, but not all hope is lost here, Marshall. 1296 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 1: I think that that's Those are the places to look 1297 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 1: for your phone and see if you know, if you 1298 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,480 Speaker 1: can locate it and then locate the information, then you 1299 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: got to think about getting a new phone. I would 1300 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: recommend the Pixel seven A as a new phone. If 1301 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 1: you want to stay with the Android. I know you 1302 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 1: had the note. I think that the Android seven A 1303 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 1: will be nice because it's a good price. And maybe 1304 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 1: this time think about insurance on your phone, because oh 1305 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 1: my gosh, I can't believe you lost so many phones. 1306 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 1: Speak a phone, so I'm gonna give you one more 1307 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 1: website and remember I put all this stuff on the 1308 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,920 Speaker 1: show notes. This is show number twenty four, So if 1309 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,960 Speaker 1: you go to rich on Tech dot tv you can 1310 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 1: see that. But this is a listener. Jim sent me 1311 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: this website. It's Broadbandmap dot FCC dot gov. And this 1312 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: is a cool website that will show you the high 1313 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 1: speed internet providers at your home. So this is the 1314 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: government makes this map so that they can figure out 1315 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 1: where to put federal funding for better internet in different places. 1316 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 1: They've got like forty two billion dollars to spend. But 1317 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 1: for you as a regular person, it's just a cool 1318 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 1: way to see what internet service providers are servicing your home. 1319 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 1: So if you want to switch, or you want to 1320 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 1: see if you can get a better deal, or you're 1321 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 1: just curious, broadbandmap dot FCC dot gov. You can pop 1322 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 1: that in to the website. Then you put in your 1323 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 1: address and it will show you all the different providers 1324 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 1: that service your home. Can you believe it? That's going 1325 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 1: to do our number two for the show, triple eight 1326 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 1: rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to 1327 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 1: two four to one zero one more rich On Tech 1328 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 1: right after this eighty eight rich one On one eight 1329 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 1330 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 1: I want to get to the top tech scams text, 1331 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 1: I keep saying tech text of twenty twenty two. But 1332 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 1: first let's go to uh Alice in Yucca Valley. Alice, 1333 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. 1334 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:30,720 Speaker 7: Thank you, excuse me. 1335 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,720 Speaker 13: So I am really annoyed with Windows ten. I have 1336 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,599 Speaker 13: a Windows ten machine, which I hate to use. I'm 1337 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 13: still using my old Windows Pro seven pro because I 1338 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,599 Speaker 13: can organize my files the way I want to organize 1339 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 13: them in a folder, and I can organize my folders 1340 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 13: where I want to organize them. And I'm a super 1341 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,439 Speaker 13: organized person, and so I like to be able to 1342 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,639 Speaker 13: put stuff the way I want to, so I can. 1343 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 13: I don't want to do it alphabetically, and it really 1344 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 13: doesn't allow me. Windows ten does not allow me to 1345 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 13: sort it anyway I want. If there used to be 1346 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 13: work around, even with Windows seven, didn't want you to 1347 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 13: do it, but you could, you could do work There 1348 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 13: was a workaround, And so what can I do Windows ten? 1349 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,720 Speaker 13: So I can sort the files the way I can 1350 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 13: put manually put something on top if I wanted it 1351 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:19,800 Speaker 13: to be on top. 1352 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 1: M oh, I see what you're saying. You want to 1353 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 1: just move a file to the top and not put 1354 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: it in any specific like alphabetical or anything like that. Right, Oh, 1355 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a way to manually do that. 1356 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 13: Don't tell me that. 1357 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 1: There may be a helper app But I mean you've 1358 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,640 Speaker 1: gone through, and you've gone through and right clicked and 1359 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: saw the different ways you can organize things, and none 1360 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 1: of those kind of those ways you want to use. 1361 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 13: No, I mean, there's probably forty of them, but none 1362 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 13: of there's some really obscure ones. 1363 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 1: I mean those they are, yeah, but you want to 1364 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 1: do like you want this file up at the top, 1365 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,680 Speaker 1: you want this file up at the bottom. So I'll 1366 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 1: tell you what I do, And this is kind of 1367 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 1: a little hack, but you know, I do the same thing, 1368 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,640 Speaker 1: but because sometimes I want some things to stay at 1369 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,719 Speaker 1: the top, I want some things to stay at the bottom. 1370 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 1: So what I do, and I know this is I'm 1371 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 1: sure someone listening is going to have a much better 1372 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,640 Speaker 1: solution than this. But what I do is I just 1373 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 1: put like a one dash at the top file that 1374 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,679 Speaker 1: I want, and then for the bottom files I put 1375 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,759 Speaker 1: zzs and so those will always stick to the bottom. 1376 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 1: And then I do alphabetical. But that is a total, Like, 1377 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 1: I can't really recommend that that's the best way to 1378 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 1: do it, but that's what I do. And it's funny 1379 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 1: you say this because I was just in my drop 1380 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 1: box the other day and I was sorting by different ways, 1381 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,559 Speaker 1: you know, date modified, and you know, size and kind 1382 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 1: and all these different things you can sort buy. But 1383 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I literally just put 1384 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 1: a ZZ against the files, you know, the file name 1385 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 1: or the file folder that I want to stick to 1386 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 1: the bottom, and a one dash at the top or 1387 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 1: an a whatever whatever works. But that's the only thing. 1388 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 1: There may be a third party app, like a helper 1389 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 1: app for Windows. I don't know of that right now. 1390 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 1: Maybe someone that's listening can email and explain that and 1391 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,360 Speaker 1: then we can include it in the feedback segment later 1392 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 1: in the show. Hello at richontech dot TV. But I 1393 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,080 Speaker 1: know that's not the answer. But you want to keep 1394 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: these in a specific way, that's what it sounds like. 1395 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 13: Huh, Yeah, that's true. I mean if I do a one, 1396 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,559 Speaker 13: then what if I come along with something else that 1397 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 13: I want to be one? Then I have to renumber 1398 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:25,559 Speaker 13: the other. 1399 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 7: One that's two. 1400 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a perfect system, but you know it 1401 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 1: does work for me. I mean, believe me, that is 1402 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 1: what I use and that's the only way that I 1403 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 1: know of doing it. There may be, like I said, 1404 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, you do get these built in options to 1405 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:44,280 Speaker 1: sort by, but you're not. The custom sorting is something 1406 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 1: that I just don't see on that I've seen on 1407 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 1: either machine, Mac or Windows. But I have a feeling 1408 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 1: there could be a helper app that may do it, 1409 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 1: but I have not come across that app. But what 1410 01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 1: are you trying to organize? Just do you like things 1411 01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 1: to be in a certain way? 1412 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know I have. 1413 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,639 Speaker 13: I have I'm a scientist. I have lots of different 1414 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,320 Speaker 13: folders for different projects and and I want, you know, 1415 01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 13: I'd like to have like the current thing that we're 1416 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 13: working on, like at the top, or and maybe something 1417 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,240 Speaker 13: else comes in that okay, that really kind. 1418 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:16,040 Speaker 7: Of needs you up at the top. 1419 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,599 Speaker 13: Two And and you know I don't care about I mean, 1420 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,640 Speaker 13: other stuff can just be at the bottom because I 1421 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,760 Speaker 13: haven't really I mean, it's not stuff. I can just 1422 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 13: say it can be alphabetical or date modified or whatever. 1423 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,360 Speaker 13: But and I don't really care because I never look 1424 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,840 Speaker 13: at it. But it's it's yeah, it's it's all the 1425 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 13: projects I work on. It's like, I want to be 1426 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 13: able to organize it the way I want. It's just 1427 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 13: like you would organize your files in your in your office, 1428 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,040 Speaker 13: you know, the way you want them organized, so you. 1429 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 1: Can get yeah, I mean it's yeah, if you want 1430 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 1: something in the front, something in the back. The only 1431 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 1: other thing I would say that you could do to 1432 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 1: to maybe is you know the hack that I mentioned. 1433 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,000 Speaker 1: The only other thing I would say is you can 1434 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 1: pin a file for quick access. So that's on the 1435 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 1: left hand side. We'll have like their different files, like 1436 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: if you and I do that as well. So I 1437 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,240 Speaker 1: have a couple of file folders that I just keep 1438 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,639 Speaker 1: on my I mean, I'm using a Mac, but it's 1439 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 1: on the left hand side. It's my favorites. I just 1440 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 1: keep those in there. It's not a perfect system, believe me. 1441 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:14,639 Speaker 1: I think that there are definitely some divisions between what 1442 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,640 Speaker 1: we do in real life and what we can do 1443 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 1: on the computer with the organization of files. And believe me, 1444 01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 1: you're way ahead of ninety nine percent of people who 1445 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 1: have just given up on any sort of organization whatsoever. 1446 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,639 Speaker 1: So the fact that you want to organize these things, Alice, 1447 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,960 Speaker 1: is great, but I don't have the answer for you 1448 01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,400 Speaker 1: on how to do that. The best way. The only 1449 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 1: other thing I can think of is maybe if you 1450 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:42,479 Speaker 1: don't have your if you have your view instead of 1451 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 1: a list, maybe you can just have your stuff where 1452 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 1: it's just kind of in a folder. But it's still 1453 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,679 Speaker 1: going to kind of default some sort of grid, I believe. 1454 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,680 Speaker 1: But we'll look for a helper app and we'll see 1455 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,600 Speaker 1: if someone can email that and get that to us, 1456 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 1: because that would be really helpful. All right, let me 1457 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,760 Speaker 1: tell you about some of these scams I've been promising you. 1458 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,439 Speaker 1: The top text scams. So Number one, this is from 1459 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,880 Speaker 1: the FTC, by the way, to three hundred and thirty 1460 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,960 Speaker 1: million dollars lost to text scams in twenty twenty two. 1461 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,960 Speaker 1: These are text messages coming to phones median loss one 1462 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,280 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and these things are doubling and tripling year 1463 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,639 Speaker 1: over year, so more people are getting scammed by text messages, 1464 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,759 Speaker 1: so that's why more scam artists are using them. Number 1465 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,559 Speaker 1: one copycat bank fraud prevention alerts. These are really tricky, 1466 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,799 Speaker 1: so you might get a fake number to call about 1467 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,720 Speaker 1: suspicious activity on your account, or they might say hey, 1468 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,800 Speaker 1: reply yes or no. To verify this transaction that, of 1469 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,800 Speaker 1: course you either did or didn't make, or you don't 1470 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 1: really understand if you made it. Once you reply, you'll 1471 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 1: get a call from the fake fraud department. And people 1472 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,719 Speaker 1: thought it was their bank helping them out. Instead money 1473 01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,320 Speaker 1: was transferred out of their account. This scams median loss 1474 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,679 Speaker 1: was three thousand dollars last year. That's a lot. Number 1475 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 1: Two bogus little gifts that can cost you. You might 1476 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,519 Speaker 1: get a text about a free gift, a reward, or 1477 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,120 Speaker 1: a prize that looks like it comes from a company 1478 01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:09,080 Speaker 1: you work with, Walmart or who knows next thing you know. 1479 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,879 Speaker 1: You click the link and you pay a small shipping fee, 1480 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 1: and you just gave your credit card number to a 1481 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 1: scam artist. Now you have fraudulent charges. Number three fake 1482 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 1: package delivery problems. This is when this is when you 1483 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,600 Speaker 1: get all the time. I posted about this one on 1484 01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 1: my Twitter the other day. It was a text pretending 1485 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,680 Speaker 1: to be from the USPS. They said, hey, confirm this. 1486 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,479 Speaker 1: It could be from FedEx, could be from UPS says 1487 01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,400 Speaker 1: there's a problem with delivery. They link to a website 1488 01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,920 Speaker 1: that looks real. I don't think it looks real, but 1489 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 1: it's not real you know that, and then you have 1490 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,120 Speaker 1: to pay a small redelivery fee, which, come on, there's 1491 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 1: no such thing. Many people report that that is a 1492 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,439 Speaker 1: trick to get your credit card number. These scam artists 1493 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 1: also try to get your personal information, including sold security number. 1494 01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:01,400 Speaker 1: Why would USPS, FedEx or ups need my social Security number? 1495 01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:08,960 Speaker 1: They do not. Where's our buzzer? Phony job offers promises 1496 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,920 Speaker 1: of easy money for mystery shopping at stores like Whole 1497 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 1: Foods in Walmart. This is a favorite scam job. Scammers 1498 01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,560 Speaker 1: also target people who post their resumes to employment websites 1499 01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,759 Speaker 1: like Indeed, in most of these reports, scammers use checks 1500 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 1: that seem to clear but turn out to be fake, 1501 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,559 Speaker 1: or trick people into sending them money. All of these 1502 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,640 Speaker 1: things are basically to trick you and to get you 1503 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,639 Speaker 1: to somehow give over your personal information or get money 1504 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,360 Speaker 1: into their hands. And finally, the not really from Amazon 1505 01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 1: security alerts. These look like a fake bank text, but 1506 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,679 Speaker 1: this is from Amazon. It's an automated fraud prevention method. 1507 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,880 Speaker 1: A message. It's saying you need to verify this big 1508 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 1: ticket order that you made, but of course you didn't 1509 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:54,679 Speaker 1: make it. So you call the number in the text, 1510 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,479 Speaker 1: you get an Amazon rep who's phony. They're going to 1511 01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,160 Speaker 1: fix your account. You trust them, and next thing you know, 1512 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,280 Speaker 1: you give theF You give the rep remote access to 1513 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,000 Speaker 1: your phone so they can fix things or get your 1514 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 1: refund for you. The rep says a couple of zeros 1515 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,880 Speaker 1: were accidentally added to the refund, so they need you 1516 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,280 Speaker 1: to return that money to them, often by buying gift 1517 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 1: cards or giving them the gift cards pin numbers. Do 1518 01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 1: not send gift cards over the phone. You go to 1519 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,439 Speaker 1: any store nowadays, Target, Walmart, Big signed by the gift 1520 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,080 Speaker 1: cards do not give these gift cards to people for cash. 1521 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,760 Speaker 1: Like I had someone that emailed me and said, Hey, 1522 01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,719 Speaker 1: I've got a friend that's really sick and I can't 1523 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 1: make it to buy them an Apple gift card, can't 1524 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,680 Speaker 1: get to the store. Can you buy me one and 1525 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,200 Speaker 1: send me a picture of the back And said, really, 1526 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,080 Speaker 1: you could just go online and buy this thing, buddy. 1527 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,640 Speaker 1: And we went back and forth before they realized that 1528 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 1: I was not going to play their game. So what 1529 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: can you do? Report these scam text? You can forward 1530 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 1: it to seven seven two six, which spells out spam. 1531 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if that really does anything, but they 1532 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,879 Speaker 1: say it helps re wireless provider spot and block similar messages. 1533 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,600 Speaker 1: You can also report using Apple on I messages or 1534 01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,559 Speaker 1: Google messages, or you can report it to the fc 1535 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:10,599 Speaker 1: FTC at Reportfraud dot FTC dot gov. And again again again. 1536 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,720 Speaker 1: Do not click on links in unexpected texts. They will 1537 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 1: try to get your money or your personal information. And 1538 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,240 Speaker 1: you can also filter unwanted texts. The problem with that 1539 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 1: is that it does catch some texts that you may want, 1540 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 1: so I don't turn that feature on. I think it's 1541 01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 1: better to just be aware of this stuff and that 1542 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,479 Speaker 1: way you don't get caught, all right. Coming up on 1543 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,639 Speaker 1: the show, we've got Justin Eastzer. He is the founder 1544 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,519 Speaker 1: and host of diabet Tech. He's going to join us 1545 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,000 Speaker 1: to talk diabetes Tech plus more of your calls at 1546 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,760 Speaker 1: triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight 1547 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,479 Speaker 1: seven four to two, four to one zero one. You're 1548 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,920 Speaker 1: hanging out with me, Rich DeMuro, you are listening to 1549 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Rich on tech. Let's go to Eric in Wanna wak Co, Mexico. Eric, 1550 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 1: you're on with Rich. 1551 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:07,080 Speaker 7: Hey, Rich, thanks for taking my call. My issue is 1552 01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:16,479 Speaker 7: with my Yahoo mail. This started years ago and the 1553 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:23,559 Speaker 7: issue is I cannot take my file like I cannot 1554 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:28,519 Speaker 7: take emails that are junk from my inbox and dump 1555 01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:34,839 Speaker 7: them into my junk file. For some reason, that option 1556 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:42,800 Speaker 7: is no longer available. I did talk to Yahoo about this, 1557 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,799 Speaker 7: and they didn't really give me a solution or anything 1558 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 7: that I could kind of figure out. I can take 1559 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:59,240 Speaker 7: those junk emails and dump them manually into say iCloud 1560 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:05,080 Speaker 7: or g email. But it's, you know, it's it's it's 1561 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:10,200 Speaker 7: it's just a pain of me. We're in and and 1562 01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:14,800 Speaker 7: the option that I get rich is, you know, and 1563 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:20,280 Speaker 7: I'm on my phone obviously, and it's the same thing 1564 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:29,360 Speaker 7: with my iPad is when I slide the email over 1565 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:34,760 Speaker 7: to dump it into my junk file, that option is 1566 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 7: like dimmed out there. There's even like a little X 1567 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 7: on it, like it just doesn't it's, you know, it's 1568 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:48,120 Speaker 7: like it's not there. I hope I'm making sense. 1569 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,920 Speaker 1: So these are all you're you're basically trying to get 1570 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,240 Speaker 1: the spam email gone from your inbox. 1571 01:20:56,120 --> 01:21:01,320 Speaker 7: Correct. That is correct, And and I'm trying to train. 1572 01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 7: I'm trying to train the system, which should be trainable. 1573 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 1: Two to a market as spam and to say don't 1574 01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 1: don't let these through again. 1575 01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:12,599 Speaker 7: That's right. 1576 01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,240 Speaker 1: When you try it. When you try to do that, 1577 01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:15,200 Speaker 1: you're not getting that option. 1578 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:19,240 Speaker 7: No, and and and and to the extent that I'm 1579 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:25,120 Speaker 7: putting it into Gmail or iCloud, well yeah, those those 1580 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 7: systems recognize it, but not my my Yahoo, and my 1581 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:36,280 Speaker 7: Yahoo is my go to pretty much for everything. 1582 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,160 Speaker 1: Are you Are you running any sort of AD blocker 1583 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:40,960 Speaker 1: on your phone or on your desktop? 1584 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,400 Speaker 7: You know, I I don't think I am not an 1585 01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:48,160 Speaker 7: AD blocker. 1586 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 1: No, that could be interfering with it. So an AD 1587 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,559 Speaker 1: blocker could be interfering. Have you tried deleting the Yahoo 1588 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,000 Speaker 1: app and reinstalling it? This is only happening on your phone. 1589 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,719 Speaker 1: Does the same thing happen on the desktop? 1590 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,960 Speaker 7: You know, I looked at the desktop this morning before 1591 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:09,400 Speaker 7: I called you in, and I think I'm able to 1592 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:20,760 Speaker 7: easily dump the files into junk. However, yeah, I mean, 1593 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 7: but they're still coming through junk. 1594 01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's I mean. Look, it's tough to stop 1595 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,840 Speaker 1: all the spams, especially on a Yahoo or an Ay. 1596 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,720 Speaker 7: You know that too, Rich? Is that my iPad, my 1597 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:40,160 Speaker 7: cell phone, and my desktop are all sync right now, 1598 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:45,080 Speaker 7: and I'm using my iPad my cell phone almost ninety 1599 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,040 Speaker 7: nine percent of the time. 1600 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,000 Speaker 1: Okay, And are you using one more question or using 1601 01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,599 Speaker 1: the native app or using an app that's built into 1602 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:57,720 Speaker 1: the iPad or the iPhone, like did you did you 1603 01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,519 Speaker 1: download the Yahoo app? Or are you using like the mail. 1604 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:05,559 Speaker 7: App it's Yahoo Mail, Like I'm pretty sure, Rich. 1605 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,840 Speaker 1: Okay, all right? So what I would do is I 1606 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,400 Speaker 1: would I would just try uninstalling the app. If it's 1607 01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:13,880 Speaker 1: working on the desktop, it sounds like the feature is there, 1608 01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 1: it's just not properly working on your phone. So if 1609 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,640 Speaker 1: this is something that was not working across all of 1610 01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,479 Speaker 1: your different devices, I would say it's a Yahoo issue. 1611 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,040 Speaker 1: But it sounds like it's something on your device. It's 1612 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:30,040 Speaker 1: a device specific thing. So I would uninstall the Yahoo app, 1613 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,560 Speaker 1: reinstall it, and also make sure that you're using the 1614 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,920 Speaker 1: Yahoo app. If you're using a third party mail app, 1615 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,400 Speaker 1: it may not have the same functionality that the Yahoo 1616 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 1: app does on the desktop. So look in the app 1617 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,240 Speaker 1: store for the Yahoo Email app. Install that. See if 1618 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,360 Speaker 1: it still doesn't let you spend sent a spam. I 1619 01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:48,240 Speaker 1: think that should cover it. 1620 01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 2: Though. 1621 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,639 Speaker 1: Triple A Rich one on one you're listening to Rich 1622 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:57,920 Speaker 1: on Tech joining me now is justin east Zer, a 1623 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:05,200 Speaker 1: YouTuber that specializes in Diabetes, Technology and Gadgets formerly of 1624 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,800 Speaker 1: CNA Justin. Thanks so much for joining me today. 1625 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 2: Of course, thanks for having me on. 1626 01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:14,360 Speaker 1: So first, let's start with your journey here to doing 1627 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,519 Speaker 1: your own thing. You were at CENE, I know they 1628 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,040 Speaker 1: had a lot of turnover there and things changed, so 1629 01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,760 Speaker 1: you made the decision to go off on your own. 1630 01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,479 Speaker 1: How did you feel on that sort of thought process, 1631 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:28,560 Speaker 1: like what made you want to do that? 1632 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it felt kind of natural because prior to 1633 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:36,960 Speaker 2: see I was actually a tech YouTuber reviewing all types 1634 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,200 Speaker 2: of tech products from the smart home products, VRAR and 1635 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,000 Speaker 2: just emerging tech and then Seena. It was kind of 1636 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 2: like this dream job. I had something on my list 1637 01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,360 Speaker 2: that I always wanted to check off, and I'm so 1638 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,240 Speaker 2: grateful that I got to like work there, and I 1639 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,240 Speaker 2: worked with some incredible people, But it kind of felt 1640 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,400 Speaker 2: like just the industry, the media industry and teenut were 1641 01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,439 Speaker 2: kind of going in a direction that I didn't want 1642 01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,600 Speaker 2: to go in, and I all so happened to be 1643 01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:04,400 Speaker 2: diagnosed with diabetes a couple of years ago and I 1644 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:08,439 Speaker 2: was just putting up videos online with that and it 1645 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,479 Speaker 2: was they were helping people and I kind of, you know, 1646 01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:16,400 Speaker 2: found that my specialty in tech and this new life 1647 01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,640 Speaker 2: experience could be something I could do full time. So 1648 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,680 Speaker 2: it kind of just felt like this natural step to 1649 01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,559 Speaker 2: kind of take my career and it's been incredible. 1650 01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,840 Speaker 1: And you you do the YouTube videos. Can you tell 1651 01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,720 Speaker 1: me how to say this again? Because I heard you 1652 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,720 Speaker 1: say it's diabet tech, right. 1653 01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm so glad you said it, like I'm so 1654 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,120 Speaker 2: glad you said it correctly. 1655 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 1: It's tricky because it looks you know, it looks like 1656 01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:42,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways you can say it, 1657 01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:46,200 Speaker 1: but it's really look I mean, the internet is all 1658 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 1: about sort of these niche categories and diabetes. When you 1659 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,600 Speaker 1: were diagnosed, I mean that was only a couple of 1660 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,920 Speaker 1: years ago, you said, yeah. 1661 01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:00,120 Speaker 2: And the crazy part about it, rich was that I 1662 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:04,960 Speaker 2: was diagnosed on TikTok. I was posting videos on TikTok 1663 01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 2: of what my doctor at the time had me doing 1664 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,439 Speaker 2: and symptoms I was experiencing. I was misdiagnosed with type 1665 01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,360 Speaker 2: two diabetes at the time, which happened a lot for 1666 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,080 Speaker 2: people that are older in age. I was thirty years. 1667 01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,599 Speaker 7: Old at the time and very unheard of or very rare. 1668 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 2: For people to be diagnosed with Type one. That late anyway, 1669 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,080 Speaker 2: my doctor said I had Type two. I was going 1670 01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:25,639 Speaker 2: with the flow. 1671 01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 7: I lost twenty pounds. 1672 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,160 Speaker 2: I was so sick. I was posting these videos on TikTok, 1673 01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:34,519 Speaker 2: and the diabetes community found my videos and they were like, 1674 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,160 Speaker 2: you need to get an endochronologist, you have type one, 1675 01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,880 Speaker 2: You need to get an influent pump, you need to 1676 01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 2: get a continuous gluecost monitor. And I owe my life 1677 01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,920 Speaker 2: and my health to this community. You know, they basically 1678 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,599 Speaker 2: prevented me from going into diabetic ketoacidosis and like going 1679 01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,439 Speaker 2: to the hospital, Like it was incredible. 1680 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 7: Wow, that is that kind of inspired me. 1681 01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, to kind of help other people. So tell me 1682 01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,519 Speaker 1: about some of the tech that you use for your diabetes. 1683 01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,439 Speaker 1: I imagine that when you were diagnosed, you and as 1684 01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,519 Speaker 1: a tech person, you probably wanted to turn to the best, 1685 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,519 Speaker 1: and you probably did a lot of research in the 1686 01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,240 Speaker 1: products that you would personally use. 1687 01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean I wouldn't be where I am 1688 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,559 Speaker 2: today also with like the incredible help that I received 1689 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,080 Speaker 2: for my support system, my anthrochronologist and my diabetes educator. 1690 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, like naturally, like I wanted to have the 1691 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,880 Speaker 2: best tech available, and I feel like a spoiled person 1692 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,439 Speaker 2: with diabetes, like I came in at a time when 1693 01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:36,840 Speaker 2: there's so much incredible technology available. So on a daily basis, 1694 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:41,839 Speaker 2: I'm wearing both an influent pump and a continuous glucost monitor. 1695 01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,519 Speaker 2: My infulent pump, the one I wear is a tube 1696 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,599 Speaker 2: less one, so it's it's kind of like a path 1697 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,439 Speaker 2: that I put on that. You know, other people may 1698 01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,400 Speaker 2: have seen ones that look like beefers and have a 1699 01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,040 Speaker 2: tube connected to people, So this one's kind of its 1700 01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,439 Speaker 2: own thing that I put on tube bliss, and that 1701 01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,880 Speaker 2: gives me insulin throughout the day. And then it also 1702 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 2: so I have to program using my phone when I'm eating, 1703 01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,360 Speaker 2: So anytime I'm going to eat throughout the day, I 1704 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,400 Speaker 2: let it know because I also need to get inflint 1705 01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,400 Speaker 2: for those meals. The other device I wear is a 1706 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:16,200 Speaker 2: continuous glue coost monitor. So what that does is it 1707 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,360 Speaker 2: measures my blood sugar levels every five minutes so that 1708 01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,280 Speaker 2: I don't have to use one of those finger pricking devices. 1709 01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,720 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I'll have to use that, but very rare. 1710 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,280 Speaker 7: Now I just have this device pump. 1711 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:31,760 Speaker 2: Now. The best part about these two devices, and this 1712 01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,840 Speaker 2: is something relatively new over the last few years introduced. 1713 01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,880 Speaker 2: I'm using what's called a closed loop infulin delivery system. 1714 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 2: Both of these devices talk to each other, and so 1715 01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:48,240 Speaker 2: the continuous glue coost monitor tells my inflant pump, Hey, 1716 01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,040 Speaker 2: this is his blood sugar now, and then this is 1717 01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,640 Speaker 2: where it was five minutes ago, and then this is 1718 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,000 Speaker 2: where we think it's going to go. And so based 1719 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,800 Speaker 2: off of my trajectory and my current blood sugar number, 1720 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,439 Speaker 2: the insulin pump is able to make these decisions every 1721 01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:07,200 Speaker 2: five minutes so that I can so it can prevent 1722 01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 2: me from getting highs and lows and kind of curb those. 1723 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,880 Speaker 1: Wow, it sounds like it's much more automated than past systems. 1724 01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm curious where do we stand. I often get the 1725 01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,720 Speaker 1: question about watches and things. Where do we stand on 1726 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,000 Speaker 1: sort of the watch that can tell what your levels 1727 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:28,360 Speaker 1: are through the skin without any sort of invasive nature. 1728 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there have been a lot of rumors about 1729 01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:37,160 Speaker 2: that technology over the years. Specifically, I think more recently, 1730 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:42,040 Speaker 2: Mark German, like a huge person that reports, you know him, 1731 01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,479 Speaker 2: reports on Apple technology. I'm sure you talked about him 1732 01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:48,600 Speaker 2: on the show, but he reported that Apple's working on 1733 01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:52,519 Speaker 2: a device that's non invasive, that can re bloodigger levels 1734 01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:57,160 Speaker 2: using like lasers that go through your skin from what 1735 01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,240 Speaker 2: I hear, especially because I reported it on that day 1736 01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:02,519 Speaker 2: that that news came out, maybe a couple months ago, 1737 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,839 Speaker 2: and I actually had some people from the diabetes community 1738 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,320 Speaker 2: respond saying, like, we've been hearing about this for years. 1739 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:13,519 Speaker 2: It's so far off. We haven't seen any prototypes, Like 1740 01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:21,240 Speaker 2: people are very skeptical about the technology. I honestly like 1741 01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,200 Speaker 2: with the device I'm wearing, this continuous glucose monitor is 1742 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:28,360 Speaker 2: so small that like, I don't even really feel the 1743 01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:32,000 Speaker 2: need for this technology, especially since it's since it's tied 1744 01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:33,960 Speaker 2: to like a watch I have to always wear, and 1745 01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:35,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, sometimes I don't want to wear watch 1746 01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,760 Speaker 2: it I don't, but I don't mind having this patch on. 1747 01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:42,759 Speaker 2: But yeah, we don't know when this is coming Apple 1748 01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:47,240 Speaker 2: technically they're saying Apple's working on one, but who knows 1749 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,360 Speaker 2: when will see that, and even if they do, who 1750 01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,680 Speaker 2: knows if if that will be like a legitimate like 1751 01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:55,000 Speaker 2: medical device or if they'll you know, a lot of 1752 01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:59,240 Speaker 2: Apple's features with their like ECG and other features, like 1753 01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,960 Speaker 2: they're like, don't quote like we're not doctors. This is 1754 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,760 Speaker 2: not a medical device, so it's unclear if it would 1755 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,759 Speaker 2: even be able to be used with like a system 1756 01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:07,519 Speaker 2: like what I use. 1757 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,480 Speaker 1: What's your advice for someone who was recently diagnosed. 1758 01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:15,759 Speaker 7: There's community out there and you're not alone. 1759 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:20,000 Speaker 2: I think that that's one of the biggest impacts I've 1760 01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,600 Speaker 2: seen and my content has on other people is that 1761 01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,919 Speaker 2: And even like when I was diagnosed, I felt really alone, scared. 1762 01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,800 Speaker 2: There was all this information I needed to soak in, 1763 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,960 Speaker 2: like it takes a year to get diabetes down, and 1764 01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,840 Speaker 2: that's it's like totally normal to feel overwhelmed. But there 1765 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:44,120 Speaker 2: are people on hand and ready, myself included, who are 1766 01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:48,599 Speaker 2: out there with like incredible knowledge to share and also 1767 01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,760 Speaker 2: like a great community that like are commenting on these 1768 01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:56,360 Speaker 2: posts and will answer your questions. My dms are open. 1769 01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,840 Speaker 2: I know a lot of other diabetes influencers. They're d 1770 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,639 Speaker 2: ms are open, Like, like, don't hesitate to reach out 1771 01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,840 Speaker 2: to these people, because we get it. This is the 1772 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:11,720 Speaker 2: club no one wanted to join. And I think, like, 1773 01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,680 Speaker 2: we're happy to offer this information because we know how 1774 01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,000 Speaker 2: it felt kind of to not have it at first. 1775 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,000 Speaker 1: So tell me how to find you online. Tell folks 1776 01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:25,880 Speaker 1: how to find you online and what you cover and 1777 01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:27,720 Speaker 1: what's you know, the sort of the best ways to 1778 01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:28,120 Speaker 1: follow you. 1779 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so for like short clips and short information stuff, 1780 01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:38,200 Speaker 2: I'm on Instagram and TikTok at dia be underscore tech, 1781 01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:42,280 Speaker 2: diabet Tech. I'm also on YouTube for much longer form 1782 01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:46,000 Speaker 2: content also diabet tech no underscore for that. And then 1783 01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:49,960 Speaker 2: I also have a podcast where I interview CEOs from 1784 01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:53,760 Speaker 2: different pump companies, different executives, and I also talk to 1785 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:58,439 Speaker 2: diabetes educators about management and kIPS for people. That's called 1786 01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,519 Speaker 2: the diabet Tech Podcast. You can find it on all 1787 01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:05,320 Speaker 2: major podcast platforms as well as in video form on YouTube. 1788 01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:10,320 Speaker 1: Awesome, justin Itatzer, thanks so much for joining me today 1789 01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,760 Speaker 1: and thanks for you got in touch with me a 1790 01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,760 Speaker 1: long time ago, way before CNET, and then when you 1791 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,800 Speaker 1: saw me at CES you said, Rich, I didn't know 1792 01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,960 Speaker 1: that you worked at c NEET, and sure enough, yes, 1793 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:21,840 Speaker 1: I worked at CNET as well. So we grow a 1794 01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,280 Speaker 1: we're part of a growing list of alumni at CNET. 1795 01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,400 Speaker 1: So it's kind of fun. 1796 01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:27,800 Speaker 7: I love it. 1797 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,000 Speaker 2: This is this is such just a full circle moment. 1798 01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:31,599 Speaker 2: I'm so happy to come on here. 1799 01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:32,360 Speaker 7: This is amazing. 1800 01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for coming on the show and sharing 1801 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:39,080 Speaker 1: your journey and also follow Justin on social media. I'll 1802 01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,320 Speaker 1: put all of his links on my website at richontech 1803 01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:46,360 Speaker 1: dot tv. I can't believe it. The show is coming 1804 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,880 Speaker 1: to a close. Coming up, we are gonna do your 1805 01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:53,240 Speaker 1: favorite segment, the feedback segment, and apparently my conversation with 1806 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:56,320 Speaker 1: Mom about AOL hit a nerve. Some of you are 1807 01:33:56,360 --> 01:34:05,080 Speaker 1: angry at me. You're listening to rich on tech. I 1808 01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:09,599 Speaker 1: thought this was kind of cool. BetaNews dot com found 1809 01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:14,200 Speaker 1: a hidden Windows restart feature. It's called the Emergency Restart. 1810 01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:16,880 Speaker 1: It's on Windows ten and eleven. And I had to 1811 01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:19,720 Speaker 1: try this for myself because I never knew about this, 1812 01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,320 Speaker 1: and I thought it was really cool. So you know 1813 01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:25,760 Speaker 1: that you can press control all delete right to get 1814 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,080 Speaker 1: to the task manager and all the different shutdown options. Well, 1815 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,439 Speaker 1: if you look in the lower right hand corner of 1816 01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,519 Speaker 1: your screen, there is a power button and that if 1817 01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,160 Speaker 1: you press it will give you sleep, shutdown or restart. 1818 01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:42,280 Speaker 1: But if you do that same thing, you know, control 1819 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,560 Speaker 1: all delete to bring up that screen. But then you 1820 01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:48,759 Speaker 1: press and hold down control and click the power button. 1821 01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:53,559 Speaker 1: Now you will access a hidden emergency restart screen which 1822 01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,160 Speaker 1: will immediately restart your system, and it says this should 1823 01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,040 Speaker 1: only be used as a last resort when you know 1824 01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,679 Speaker 1: your computer freeze is up. You will lose any unsaved 1825 01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,640 Speaker 1: data when you use the emergency restart, but this is 1826 01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,719 Speaker 1: just a nice thing to keep in your back pocket. 1827 01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,200 Speaker 1: Let's say you know a lot of people have these 1828 01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,240 Speaker 1: things on their computer where some sort of malware or 1829 01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,000 Speaker 1: some sort of website will take over their screen. They 1830 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,599 Speaker 1: can't do anything, so control it, delete and then control 1831 01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:20,880 Speaker 1: click that power button and now you can get that 1832 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:24,960 Speaker 1: emergency restart. It'll restart your computer immediately. I'm gonna put 1833 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,120 Speaker 1: a video about this on my Instagram at rich On Tech. 1834 01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,839 Speaker 1: I thought that was a cool little feature. Mercedes Benz 1835 01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 1: is introducing chat GPT into its cars, So if you 1836 01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:40,640 Speaker 1: have a Mercedes and if you do congrats, you can 1837 01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:47,040 Speaker 1: enable chat GPT. So the way that they're posting this 1838 01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,240 Speaker 1: is it's a beta program. They're trying it out for 1839 01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:52,880 Speaker 1: the next three months. You can pretty much ask chat 1840 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,519 Speaker 1: GPT questions like you would on the computer, so you 1841 01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,919 Speaker 1: can ask complex questions, make requests related to your destination. 1842 01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,960 Speaker 1: And this will work in over nine hundred thousand Mercedes 1843 01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,679 Speaker 1: with the m Bucks sounds like Starbucks, the m Bucks 1844 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:11,160 Speaker 1: infotainment system. So you can try this out, give them feedback. 1845 01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:12,680 Speaker 1: If you want to try this, all you have to 1846 01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,240 Speaker 1: do is say, hey, Mercedes, I want to join the 1847 01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:18,280 Speaker 1: beta program, and I guess that will take you to 1848 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:21,920 Speaker 1: the system to get this feature in your car. Now, 1849 01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:23,760 Speaker 1: if I just said that in your Mercedes, that you 1850 01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:28,400 Speaker 1: now have it. So there you go. The rollout is 1851 01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,880 Speaker 1: going to happen over time, but that's kind of cool. 1852 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I chat GBT. You know, it's not up 1853 01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,240 Speaker 1: to date per se. It's only up till September twenty 1854 01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,280 Speaker 1: twenty one, I think, or sometime in twenty twenty one, 1855 01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,479 Speaker 1: so it's not like totally new, but it's got a 1856 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,840 Speaker 1: lot of good data in there. So kind of fun 1857 01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 1: to have that in your Mercedes. All right? What else? 1858 01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:53,519 Speaker 1: We got a story from Kenneth He wrote in He 1859 01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:56,519 Speaker 1: wrote to Hello at rich on tech dot tv, maybe 1860 01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,280 Speaker 1: sometimes it's not so bad to be a Luddite and 1861 01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:02,439 Speaker 1: other stuff. Kenneth says, I was in Target the other day. 1862 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:04,240 Speaker 1: The person in front of me was trying to pay 1863 01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:06,840 Speaker 1: with a Target or some other app on her phone. 1864 01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,840 Speaker 1: It took her about five minutes to finally figure out 1865 01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,559 Speaker 1: how to pay it. She just paid with her credit card. 1866 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:16,560 Speaker 1: It would have taken about ten seconds. Well, Kenneth, this 1867 01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:19,280 Speaker 1: good thing, you said her phone, because this could have 1868 01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:22,400 Speaker 1: been me at Target. I'm always inside the Target app, 1869 01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,680 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why. Because two things. You need 1870 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,920 Speaker 1: to scan your Target loyalty card through the app, and 1871 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,800 Speaker 1: then they also have these things called Target offers, and 1872 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,439 Speaker 1: you can add these Target offers to your card and 1873 01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,759 Speaker 1: like save a whole bunch of money. We were actually 1874 01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,680 Speaker 1: in CVS the other day and my total was like 1875 01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:42,439 Speaker 1: sixty bucks and I said, ooh, let me see if 1876 01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:45,280 Speaker 1: there's any like CVS offers. Same thing. If you download 1877 01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:47,679 Speaker 1: the app, you can load these offers to your card, 1878 01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:50,040 Speaker 1: and so I did that while we were in line, 1879 01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,360 Speaker 1: and my wife, of course kind of rolled her eyes 1880 01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:55,360 Speaker 1: at me. Sure enough, there was a coupon hidden in 1881 01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,439 Speaker 1: there for thirty percent off my entire order. So my 1882 01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:00,760 Speaker 1: order we watched as it went from about sixty five 1883 01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,880 Speaker 1: dollars to forty two dollars, and my wife was like, wow, 1884 01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,080 Speaker 1: good thing. You took a couple of minutes to do that, 1885 01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:09,800 Speaker 1: much to the uh chagrin of everyone behind me in line. 1886 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,200 Speaker 1: That was waiting for me to fiddle with my phone. 1887 01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:18,280 Speaker 1: So Kenneth, it happens. Let's see. Donna writes in Hey, Rich, 1888 01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,400 Speaker 1: I recently ow funny tech story from a baby boomer. 1889 01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:23,800 Speaker 1: Hope how many more minutes we have in the show 1890 01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,439 Speaker 1: because this one's a long one. Hey Rich, I recently 1891 01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:28,519 Speaker 1: started listening to your podcast and I really like it. 1892 01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,400 Speaker 1: I would like to share tech story with you, since 1893 01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,000 Speaker 1: tech is your thing. Yep, Rich on tech that makes sense. 1894 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm seventy one years old. I own a Tesla Model three. 1895 01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:37,960 Speaker 1: I use the iPhone and have an Apple Watch, which 1896 01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,000 Speaker 1: I mostly use for keeping track of my steps. One day, 1897 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,439 Speaker 1: while shopping at Walmart, I placed my handbag with my 1898 01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,960 Speaker 1: cell phone in the trunk with the groceries and mistakenly 1899 01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,680 Speaker 1: closed the trunk with the cell phone inside. As I 1900 01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,240 Speaker 1: realized my error, I saw the side view mirrors of 1901 01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,240 Speaker 1: the Tesla closing, which we all know if you have 1902 01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,040 Speaker 1: a Tesla, that means the car is locking. I kept 1903 01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,439 Speaker 1: trying to unlock it would not no cell phone, so 1904 01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't call Triple A. I went inside the store, 1905 01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,439 Speaker 1: I explained my predicament, asked if I could use their phone. 1906 01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:06,599 Speaker 1: I called my son, I didn't know anyone's phone number 1907 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,360 Speaker 1: by heart except his. It went straight to voicemail. I 1908 01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,200 Speaker 1: stressed out, then realized I had my Apple Watch. I 1909 01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,400 Speaker 1: saw I can go through my recent text and attempted 1910 01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:16,920 Speaker 1: to send my kids a text. It didn't work. Finally 1911 01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,559 Speaker 1: I found my phone number to my grandson, who lives 1912 01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,559 Speaker 1: about twenty miles away. I called him. He answered, which 1913 01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,519 Speaker 1: rarely happens. He has the Tesla app for my car 1914 01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:28,759 Speaker 1: on his phone. He used his app to unlock my Tesla. 1915 01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:31,280 Speaker 1: He did so, and I happily saw the side view 1916 01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:34,720 Speaker 1: mirrors open up and caps text saved the day for me. 1917 01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to starting to listen to your podcast 1918 01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:39,960 Speaker 1: because it's a baby boomer. I want to keep up 1919 01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,040 Speaker 1: with the podcasts and there you make it fun, interesting 1920 01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:47,160 Speaker 1: and easy. Oh thank you, Donna. And uh yes. So 1921 01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:50,280 Speaker 1: my old car used to have a feature when I 1922 01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,519 Speaker 1: locked my keys in the trunk, which I did all 1923 01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,080 Speaker 1: the time, it would beep three times to go bit 1924 01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:56,920 Speaker 1: bit boop, and then it would pop open the trunk 1925 01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,640 Speaker 1: and it saved me so many times from locking my 1926 01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:03,400 Speaker 1: keys in the trunk. Now, with the Tesla, I agree, 1927 01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,240 Speaker 1: I usually don't put my phone in the trunk. But 1928 01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:07,080 Speaker 1: there have been so many times and I'm like, oh 1929 01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,640 Speaker 1: my gosh. If I locked my keys in the car 1930 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:11,360 Speaker 1: right now or my phone, I would never be able 1931 01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:13,240 Speaker 1: to open it. But I do carry one of these 1932 01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:16,080 Speaker 1: spare Tesla keys in my pocket because of that reason. 1933 01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:24,160 Speaker 1: AOL Steve says AOL was bought. Whoever owned Verizon bought it. 1934 01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,599 Speaker 1: My email address kept the Verizon extension. Just last this week, 1935 01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:30,880 Speaker 1: AOL updated the page layouts. For one thing, they switched 1936 01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,560 Speaker 1: the log into the right side to the page. I 1937 01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,439 Speaker 1: think that's what my mom was talking about. And Chris says, Rich, 1938 01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,559 Speaker 1: shame on you for AOL shaming your mom. I didn't 1939 01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:42,200 Speaker 1: AOL shame her. Stop shaming your mom. And it's a 1940 01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,360 Speaker 1: big long email about how I shamed my mom for 1941 01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:47,000 Speaker 1: using AOL. I did not shame her. I just said, 1942 01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,080 Speaker 1: why do you still use AOL? I didn't judge her 1943 01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:51,840 Speaker 1: for using AOL. I get plenty of emails from folks 1944 01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,360 Speaker 1: that use AOL on a daily basis. Do I think 1945 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:57,560 Speaker 1: there's better things out there? Absolutely? Can she continue to 1946 01:40:57,640 --> 01:40:58,080 Speaker 1: use AOL? 1947 01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:58,360 Speaker 2: Yes? 1948 01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,599 Speaker 1: And I help her with that every day. That's going 1949 01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:03,080 Speaker 1: to do it for this episode of the show. Thanks 1950 01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,680 Speaker 1: for listening number twenty four. You can find me on 1951 01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,360 Speaker 1: social media at rich on Tech. My name is rich Dmiro. 1952 01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,719 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. There are so many ways 1953 01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,360 Speaker 1: you can spend your time. I do appreciate you spending 1954 01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,360 Speaker 1: it right here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes 1955 01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:18,360 Speaker 1: this show possible. I will talk to you real soon