Speaker 1: You know, I was like a bat arena out there
Speaker 1: on the field.
Speaker 2: Man light.
Speaker 1: I was light on my toes out there.
Speaker 3: Maybe bull rust of center threw him down, hit the
Speaker 3: full back and slacked the quarterback.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, he can start for us to
Speaker 2: get you can start from.
Speaker 3: The Players Club is brought to you by Pepsi, the
Speaker 3: official soft drink of the Washington Commanders. Welcome into season
Speaker 3: three of the Emmy nominated Players Club. We got a
Speaker 3: new guest man, new co host Sean Springs. He spent
Speaker 3: five seasons in the Burgundy and Gold. Thirteen year NFL veteran,
Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. I'm happy to be man, this
Speaker 3: is this is this is an honor to be with greatness.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I'm the presence you back home. I'm this is home man.
Speaker 3: Man, We're gonna have a fun We're gonna have a
Speaker 3: fun time. For those of you maybe tuning in for
Speaker 3: the first time, the Players Club this is We're gonna
Speaker 3: be chopping it up with current Washington Commanders players and
Speaker 3: also former Washington Legends players, talking live, talking football, talking
Speaker 3: just all the things that we love to talk about. Sean, Man,
Speaker 3: I I just think about two thousand and seven when
Speaker 3: I came here, joined you as a teammate, Man, what
Speaker 3: was that We welcome London, then, man, we welcome we
Speaker 3: need with.
Speaker 1: That experience because you thought he was the captain.
Speaker 2: I didn't think I was a captain. I thought I
Speaker 2: was a superman. I needed to be made it was
Speaker 2: gonna be be But London was the captain. It was
Speaker 2: they brought me.
Speaker 3: They needed some leadership, definitely. Not only did I bring
Speaker 3: the leadership, I brought some playmaker. But no, Shan Man
Speaker 3: he was a baller.
Speaker 2: Heck, you knew, you you.
Speaker 1: Know practice early that he was gonna talk highly about himself.
Speaker 1: And oh I remember, you know Sean. Sean is the
Speaker 1: real reason. You know, Sean enough credit, CP get a
Speaker 1: lot of the credit, but Sean is also the guy
Speaker 1: who I got to give credit to. Because it wasn't
Speaker 1: for him bringing in mail trainer, I would have never
Speaker 1: probably had the longest, you know, the career that I
Speaker 1: had because when I got here, I was broke up.
Speaker 1: You know that first the first four years in New York, Man,
Speaker 1: I was beat up. And Sean told Cep, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I'll be seeing twent of me working on his hamstrings.
Speaker 1: And you know, inside I look, what's your coming room?
Speaker 1: Tell me to come see my guy. And Ceep called
Speaker 1: me like, hey, man, Sean got this guy, come meet him.
Speaker 1: Mail saw me and he saw me from the introduction
Speaker 1: of just saying hey, what's up that something was going
Speaker 1: on with me, right and the rest is history. So
Speaker 1: I gotta give you credit for that.
Speaker 2: Man, gotta be a professional man, help out your teammates out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I and that defensive meeting room man, we
Speaker 3: had some We have some.
Speaker 1: Dog characters to character.
Speaker 2: When you say character, the first thing comes to my friends.
Speaker 1: Damn smooth smooth and Colos Rogers.
Speaker 2: Man Wais was our defensive courd that.
Speaker 3: But by the way, did y'all see that TikTok on
Speaker 3: Greg still going off on people in the meeting rooms?
Speaker 3: So there was a TikTok last week about Greg. Of
Speaker 3: course Greg was Greg. He's you know, he got the
Speaker 3: red dot Lennon. So everybody learning to tell you Greg
Speaker 3: when you can tell when Greg depends on what he's
Speaker 3: wearing that yeah, he's on one. So Greg shitting at
Speaker 3: the TikTok is like Greg sitting at the front of
Speaker 3: the meeting room and he's just going over there. It
Speaker 3: was like snippets like meetings Greg that of course he's
Speaker 3: cutting people out, he's holding them accountable. He's yelling at him,
Speaker 3: and everybody's like, you see the guys heads down.
Speaker 1: You gotta be authentic with hisself. It won't be great
Speaker 1: if it wasn't that route.
Speaker 3: When Greg used to talk all this, you know, his
Speaker 3: bravado and all this stuff. I thought Greg was funny
Speaker 3: to me as a head coach. I knew him as
Speaker 3: a head coach, totally different as a head coach than
Speaker 3: he was as a defensive coordinator. One thing I will
Speaker 3: say about him, dude can call the defense. He had
Speaker 3: a great feel of when to call plays. So because
Speaker 3: everybody has plays and you know you're going to it
Speaker 3: with a game plan, but no one went to call
Speaker 3: a certain defense. Just having a great feeldy also would
Speaker 3: allow me to call it myself. He just like he
Speaker 3: just point at me, like, look, you gotta just just
Speaker 3: call it that.
Speaker 2: We did play a lot of better bands that yeah,
Speaker 2: Greg blotch.
Speaker 3: But one of the things that I like about what
Speaker 3: g Dubb and that whole defense we said, we had characters.
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing for us with the staff
Speaker 3: and I think what London helped was everybody kind of
Speaker 3: knew their role. London knew like Fridays, you know, London
Speaker 3: knew that he was the guy that coach relied on
Speaker 3: to make sure that these guys knew what they were
Speaker 3: doing being lined up. So I will say that London
Speaker 3: kept that meeting room because we did have some characters
Speaker 3: we'd have been joking abound we left dvs, but London
Speaker 3: made sure this is the script, what are the checks,
Speaker 3: what are we doing? And I think that was needed.
Speaker 3: Then we had guys where you knew like, hey man,
Speaker 3: I'm out here to cover the best guy. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: make a play. You know, Sean's gonna just be fantastic.
Speaker 3: He's just Sean Taylor, Sean Taylor, and he's just listen.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up Sean Taylor. And I'm a
Speaker 3: two stories about Sean, and you remember this. We're getting
Speaker 3: ready to play the Giants. The thing we started off
Speaker 3: the season two or No. Seven seven, and I've told
Speaker 3: the story of our players club, but now we got
Speaker 3: we got Blue and by the way, we're gonna call
Speaker 3: him Blue. That's a nick that we got for Sean Blue.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna refer to him as Blue. So we're
Speaker 3: getting ready to play the Giants, and we were having
Speaker 3: like a kind of bad practice to start, because I
Speaker 3: think we start off special teams and like balls were
Speaker 3: being dropped and something happened in the defense where they
Speaker 3: just were we weren't clicking where we needed to be clicking.
Speaker 3: So I, being a company and as a leader, I
Speaker 3: say something, yell something like, man, y'all need picked up.
Speaker 3: You picked this up, Sean, that's DoD thinks I'm talking
Speaker 3: to him. Sean Taylor think something. Think I'm going at him.
Speaker 3: So because I didn't know he had, I think he had.
Speaker 3: He was back there catching punch from I think he
Speaker 3: might have dropped the pun or something. So he's thinking
Speaker 3: I'm going going at him and him get him to
Speaker 3: it on the sideline, I remember, So we get it
Speaker 3: to it on the sideline. So you got to alf
Speaker 3: for mail. I'm not backing down. He backing down. It
Speaker 3: took it took Blue. He came to me. I guess
Speaker 3: he knew, having been shot teammate for a while. He's like,
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna be at a cop him. Let me
Speaker 3: go cops. He's like he said loved to let it go,
Speaker 3: got it go the way he said it. It was like,
Speaker 3: you know what, all right, right right, you know what,
Speaker 3: you're good, I'm gonna let it go. But I just
Speaker 3: happened to have this conversation maybe two days ago. Somebody
Speaker 3: was asking me about Sean Taylor and like how good
Speaker 3: could he have been?
Speaker 2: I say, man, I played with Hall of famers.
Speaker 3: I think we all had, you know, experience where we
Speaker 3: either play with guys who currently in the Pro Football
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame or will future be future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is just he was just scratching
Speaker 3: the surfer. Ye like scratching the surfa. He was here
Speaker 3: with the ability that he was going to get to
Speaker 3: this point.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, did y'all feel that same way?
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the year that he left
Speaker 1: for us. Already before he you know, that season one
Speaker 1: nowhere near halfway done, and he was already his numbers
Speaker 1: was godly, you know, compared to what he had got
Speaker 1: recognized for already for being a great season. He had
Speaker 1: four picks that year, had them missed about four games.
Speaker 2: Three heard his knee, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: On him, he was on a pace that that season
Speaker 1: alone to just out do everything he had done. So
Speaker 1: that's why I look at him be like, y'all just
Speaker 1: don't understand man. And then at that time too, you know,
Speaker 1: he recognized as a young man that I got to
Speaker 1: make sacrifices to be great. He had already started dying
Speaker 1: yet stop hanging out. He was doing so much at
Speaker 1: a young age to make sure that he played at
Speaker 1: the level. Man, he just had it, you know.
Speaker 3: It was his knowledge before like people was like, what
Speaker 3: Shawn do? What he wants to do? And part of
Speaker 3: it was not that he really wanted to do what
Speaker 3: he wanted to do. He had the ability to do
Speaker 3: things that others couldn't do. So he could almost show
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage and still be over top
Speaker 3: like we in covered too, and Sean is like standing
Speaker 3: by like at will backer.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, man, get back right, I've got this
Speaker 2: receiver regard. You try to get the jamp but you
Speaker 2: susted on. So that's one thing.
Speaker 3: But I think what happened really was he started to
Speaker 3: really understand when he started to understand the game. But
Speaker 3: it was really more so that like he really understood
Speaker 3: his abilities, you know, his abilities right, like he before
Speaker 3: he was making plays and stuff like that, but when
Speaker 3: he started under the game and matching up with his
Speaker 3: abilities and things that he could do.
Speaker 2: He became unstopper.
Speaker 3: Because I played with Pro Bowl guys, I play a
Speaker 3: young like and I tell people all this all the time,
Speaker 3: a young Sean.
Speaker 2: Another guy played.
Speaker 3: At Miami that was really good, who was very similar
Speaker 3: to Sean was a guy named Benny Blade. And if
Speaker 3: people know, like Benny was amazing, right, and he was
Speaker 3: still amazing tenth twelfth year in the league when I
Speaker 3: had a chance to play with him and Daryl Williams.
Speaker 3: But Sean, he was on that level of like if
Speaker 3: you think about the potential of safeties, and ed Reed
Speaker 3: comes first to mind, you know, Troy Sean, you know,
Speaker 3: and I and you don't like to say this, but
Speaker 3: I think he could have been the best safety ever
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel. That's how I feel. And I
Speaker 2: played with him, I sat beside him for five years. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, no, man, all right, man, man, just man, damn,
Speaker 3: I missed miss We got cheated, man. But you know,
Speaker 3: and shout out to the statue being that they're gonna
Speaker 3: put it. Yeah, just we feel like we need great,
Speaker 3: great gesture that the team is gonna do by putting
Speaker 3: the statue for him that truly he just truly deserves
Speaker 3: that it's.
Speaker 2: Time to switch gears. Man. The initial fifty three man
Speaker 2: roster has been Uh, we're gonna do something called set
Speaker 2: the tone. We called set the Tone.
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Speaker 3: our passion is your protection. Who do y'all think needs
Speaker 3: to set the tone for this season?
Speaker 2: This year?
Speaker 3: For me Man and I might take the shine on
Speaker 3: and I want to jump out there before London because
Speaker 3: I know London probably feel the same way about this guy.
Speaker 3: I think Frankie Levu is a superstar, you know, and
Speaker 3: our lineback and or has been tremendously upgraded. But for
Speaker 3: some reason, the first time I saw Frankie Levu, I
Speaker 3: was like, what, Like, this guy is a predator out
Speaker 3: there and he's a superstar on a defense side of
Speaker 3: the ball. And way the reason why I said he
Speaker 3: could possibly set the tone because if you think about
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn, you think about Dallas, you think about Michael Parsons,
Speaker 3: I think Frank Frankie Levu has that he got something
Speaker 3: about him that he could be just dynamic in the
Speaker 3: blitzing coverage hit Fred Warner come to mind in London.
Speaker 3: You can probably speak on a little more, but I
Speaker 3: think that kid could be a superstar on that defense.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go against the grain from what we probably
Speaker 1: look at offensively and we might say, okay, you got
Speaker 1: the quarterback that you know what I mean, he can
Speaker 1: do so much with his legs and with his arm.
Speaker 1: Then you have a guy like Terry who I can
Speaker 1: easy throw out there. I'm gonna say b Rob. I
Speaker 1: think b Robb last year with the carries and people
Speaker 1: fail to realize you. You know, you look at Cliff
Speaker 1: and his out of play, you think past, past, past,
Speaker 1: but go back and watch history, look at history. When
Speaker 1: it comes to Cliff. His run game has has always
Speaker 1: been up there too, you know, the best of the league,
Speaker 1: you know, when he was out there doing this thing
Speaker 1: in Arizona. So I think b Rob is going to
Speaker 1: be a surprise to a lot of folks thinking that
Speaker 1: hey it's all about just you know, spread out offense
Speaker 1: or whatever. He's going to be able to set the
Speaker 1: tone and slow things down for a young you know
Speaker 1: quarterback that we have that now he can go out
Speaker 1: there and be that guy and see the guys and
Speaker 1: see those lanes you know a little much clear because
Speaker 1: we have the run game, you know behind b Robb Blake.
Speaker 3: So piggyback it off of you with with the b
Speaker 3: Rob standpoint in order for be Rob to do his thing,
Speaker 3: need that old.
Speaker 2: Lined to do that.
Speaker 1: You got to do that thing.
Speaker 3: And one person in particularly that I feel like it
Speaker 3: is going to have to set the tone.
Speaker 2: Sam Cosmy Sam Costan.
Speaker 3: He's a last year he balled manna play play.
Speaker 2: He finally got settled in it till his home.
Speaker 3: I think the best position at right guard, physical tone
Speaker 3: cetter man. He's Sam in a in a year where
Speaker 3: the offensive line didn't didn't play play up to.
Speaker 2: The expectations so to speak. Sam did.
Speaker 3: He was a bright spot on that offensive line. He
Speaker 3: played out standing football. And I think even this year
Speaker 3: with him being in the guard position for a second
Speaker 3: year in a row on a new coaching staff with
Speaker 3: a greater emphasis on running the football, Sam with his
Speaker 3: athleticism and its temperament, he's a tone center because at
Speaker 3: offensive lineman it is one thing that has skill and
Speaker 3: technique and all that you have skilled technique and a
Speaker 3: nasty temperament and demeanor which he has. You have the
Speaker 3: ability to set the tone. And that's that's. Uh, He's
Speaker 3: gonna be my my tone. Cetter the fifty three man roster.
Speaker 3: Any any surprises to you as any you know, like okay,
Speaker 3: things you like? Well, Driscoll keeping the third quarter quarterback,
Speaker 3: I think you alluded to about you know, like man
Speaker 3: because now teams are looking maybe put the third guy
Speaker 3: on practice squad something like that.
Speaker 2: But uh, I think it was maybe it was the
Speaker 2: fifty yard run. He was rolling, but he's looking like
Speaker 2: somebody please please.
Speaker 3: But you know, in the modern day football, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, usually you just think about the first and
Speaker 3: the second guy and the third guys like I picked
Speaker 3: somebody off the street or somebody you know, uh that
Speaker 3: may be available. But uh, I think that that kid
Speaker 3: that that was like all right, they keeping a quarterback.
Speaker 2: That that was kind of a like that's interesting.
Speaker 3: And then another thing I was thinking about this and
Speaker 3: how many dbs on him about you can.
Speaker 2: Talk about about that, but that was like one of
Speaker 2: those things.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all the safety. I mean that's my
Speaker 1: that's my wow, that's my surprise. Just so many safety
Speaker 1: But when you think about it, when you really think
Speaker 1: about it as a whole and understand what this defense
Speaker 1: is about packages, and then you're saying to yourself, yeah,
Speaker 1: we might have eleven that we say, you know, I
Speaker 1: guess you can say named as safeties, but it's really twelve.
Speaker 1: When you have one of the guys playing linebacker's he's
Speaker 1: slaughtered as a linebacker, and you just understand the packages.
Speaker 1: And when you watch what dan Quid did defensively in
Speaker 1: all the spots he'd been in, he was one of
Speaker 1: those guys and showed different looks and you had guys
Speaker 1: that fit the mold. So when you have that, it's
Speaker 1: a great thing to have, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You can't look at it and say, well, man, why
Speaker 1: we got so many? Say does you look at it
Speaker 1: and say, I'm happy to see that we have so
Speaker 1: much you know, flexibility in that position that we can
Speaker 1: have that many guys and use them in different spots.
Speaker 3: London, you mentioned the new kickoff rolls and because it's
Speaker 3: closer to the type of bodies. Yeah, right, So normally
Speaker 3: that the bodies would have been like tight end linebacker
Speaker 3: type guys, women in offensive lineman. But we're being close.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's interesting. Maybe the special teams just
Speaker 3: dictating like we got to have more of those bigger dbs,
Speaker 3: but faster because the game is playing in space, right
Speaker 3: And understand this, at the time that we're recording this,
Speaker 3: the fifty three man roster could be adjusted by the
Speaker 3: time you all see this, so there could be some
Speaker 3: changes that take place and things like that. But I
Speaker 3: will say this, and and Dan Quinn has touched on this,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure if we if you talked to Larry Izzo,
Speaker 3: a special.
Speaker 2: Teams coach.
Speaker 3: For the last few years, the kickoff coverage and the
Speaker 3: kickoff return teams, really that special teams element really wasn't
Speaker 3: there anymore. There used to be guys who made football
Speaker 3: teams based on their ability to cover kicks. You remember
Speaker 3: named Roy Office Roy Yeah, yeah, I was scared of him.
Speaker 2: Roy Man's a dude that used to play for the
Speaker 2: Carolina Pathos. He was a special tam sush teams team.
Speaker 3: And then then the Ravens had the boy that played
Speaker 3: that won All O J.
Speaker 2: Shoot, he was my teammates too. Now, O J. Bergantz
Speaker 2: was Special Teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a guy here who played and end
Speaker 1: up end up playing lineback up for Buffalo one man game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to my boy Slater.
Speaker 3: Uh, Matthew Slater man like that kid made a career
Speaker 3: on Special Man his dad a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: It could be coming back to your point, right.
Speaker 3: But but when you look at that element, you're gonna
Speaker 3: have to have more athletic guys, bigger bodies, guys who
Speaker 3: can cover kicks, and guys who are blocking and the
Speaker 3: kick offf return. As I looked at this roster, I'm
Speaker 3: always intrigued to see how many undrafted guys are able
Speaker 3: to make the team, or even a guy like you
Speaker 3: mentioned Jeff Drisco or a guy like Jeremy McNichols, guys
Speaker 3: who initially when you when you come into this look
Speaker 3: at the ross as it's being put together, or the
Speaker 3: ninety man roster, like these guys are kind of afterthoughts,
Speaker 3: so speed not in their minds, and you know, because
Speaker 3: and they proved it, but you know, not a lot
Speaker 3: of fan fear and they earned their will to just
Speaker 3: learned it. But a guy undrafted free agent Tyler Owens, Yeah,
Speaker 3: man plays and.
Speaker 2: Every single time he got opportunity.
Speaker 3: To make plays as a defensive player, but also as
Speaker 3: a special team to tell her kicks and then Coason
Speaker 3: Yankova as a fourth tight end.
Speaker 2: So you know, taking advantage of your opportunity.
Speaker 3: Yes, And it's interesting now because now that you can
Speaker 3: put veters on a play on a on a practice squad,
Speaker 3: it's interesting to see how teams are deciding who are
Speaker 3: you gonna put on a practice squad? Am I gonna
Speaker 3: let this guy hit that market? Because to your point,
Speaker 3: I mean, Orange making the team, I mean was like
Speaker 3: you would have thought, like, now he's a camp body, right,
Speaker 3: Like he's gonna just.
Speaker 2: Cover a couple of kicks. Man, that kid was.
Speaker 3: He was out there dominating after that, like every single
Speaker 3: time he got out on the field.
Speaker 2: A play was made.
Speaker 3: Tanna wire receivers, Man, you look at the initial guys
Speaker 3: who made the wide receiver.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that position group? After the
Speaker 2: big news, after the big news of the week.
Speaker 4: Well, well, yeahs, we can.
Speaker 1: Start with the news. We can start with the news.
Speaker 1: I was wild. I was a little floored by it
Speaker 1: because you look at the potential there. One of the
Speaker 1: things I know about this game, man, the ability to
Speaker 1: be you know, a lot of guys have ability. You know,
Speaker 1: you can see it. So many guys be on the
Speaker 1: practice feel you be like, man, he's talding that he
Speaker 1: got this that. But if you're not putting it out
Speaker 1: there consistently, especially in the floor of a game, then
Speaker 1: we have no place for you. And that's what kind
Speaker 1: of was some of the little whispers was around, like, look, man,
Speaker 1: we know the guy can play, but we don't get
Speaker 1: that energy from him all the time.
Speaker 3: Well, it was really about players. Sometimes it's about the
Speaker 3: attitude or the type of.
Speaker 2: Attitude, that type of player the coach is looking for.
Speaker 3: I say this, and I've always been a big Jiha
Speaker 3: Dodson fan. Me too, going all the way back to
Speaker 3: his college days. I'm a big Ohio State fan. You
Speaker 3: went to Ohio State and I can remember Johann just
Speaker 3: destroying the fire State always go back, and so I
Speaker 3: was a big fan of his. I'm sorry that I
Speaker 3: hate to see that it didn't work out for him
Speaker 3: in Washington, just because I was a big fan of
Speaker 3: his and a.
Speaker 2: Lot of times but Philly London.
Speaker 3: Hey, man, that man got the best offer from you.
Speaker 3: At this point, in time, and Philly had the best offer.
Speaker 3: You take the best offer. I look at it like this, everybody,
Speaker 3: every scheme is not for everybody, right, and whether I
Speaker 3: look at myself like I came into the league as
Speaker 3: a four to three inside linebacker, I couldn't have been
Speaker 3: a three four linebacker three four inside linebacker initially in
Speaker 3: my career. Eventually, as I got more season than became
Speaker 3: later on in my career, I was able to play
Speaker 3: in the three four defense, and I did that on
Speaker 3: under Jen has lit in this defense and playing in
Speaker 3: front with sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just different. It's different.
Speaker 3: So with Johann maybe the things that they wanted him
Speaker 3: to do at the wide receiver position, his skill set
Speaker 3: may not have fit as much as the guys stay
Speaker 3: opted to keep. So it's not necessarily it's a detriment
Speaker 3: or a criticism or what he did. It might be
Speaker 3: a testament to what the other guys did. So I
Speaker 3: can look at it like this. Ros Philly is a
Speaker 3: team that has Super Bowl aspirations. They like his skills
Speaker 3: had enough to today say hey we can utilize some
Speaker 3: put him in there.
Speaker 1: He's by far a plus to anything they had in
Speaker 1: the slot. Every day, I've seen over there, so you know,
Speaker 1: and not to cut you off, but just to get
Speaker 1: back on the office. You know those wide receivers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you you you hit it on the head. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe it don't fit here, but I understand what you're
Speaker 1: coming from saying Philly, but you have think about it
Speaker 1: two from two aspects. Say we keep them and you
Speaker 1: still can't pay him next year.
Speaker 3: If Philly's offered me a third and Cleveland's offered me
Speaker 3: a sixth, you tek him to send him to Cleveland
Speaker 3: because Cleveland, let's say clevean off for four. Am I
Speaker 3: gonna sit him to Cleveland for this fourth? Or am
Speaker 3: I gonna take Philly's third?
Speaker 1: I'm getting a third? So it's like and you have
Speaker 1: to be confident knowing that, hey, yeah we put him
Speaker 1: over there. We want to see him twice a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know he'll be We all get motive, everybody
Speaker 3: that's just to nature this baseness.
Speaker 1: But speaking of that core, I'm pleased with it. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I've never been the guy that got caught
Speaker 1: up on names. Now what I love to see more firepower? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think man, Also, you know a lot of
Speaker 1: that stuff stems from you know what the offense allow
Speaker 1: you to be, you know what I mean. We saw
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk in his offense in Arizona, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and he was like whoa, and you see
Speaker 1: what he did, went and got paid. So you know,
Speaker 1: same way with Terry. When Terry came here some years ago,
Speaker 1: what six years ago, he was a third round pick.
Speaker 1: We never knew Terry was gonna be Terry, but he
Speaker 1: got that because of the ability of having the opportunity.
Speaker 1: He was available and then he had opportunity. So now
Speaker 1: that's gonna be these next guys. You know, you get
Speaker 1: your you get your Diammie Brown, you get the guy
Speaker 1: I can't think of his name. A lot of that
Speaker 1: is the kids, the kids, the kids, you get all
Speaker 1: these guys now that have the chance to step into
Speaker 1: that molde of saying, hey, McCaffrey, you know, young guy.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, he's a young guy. But
Speaker 1: now they have the opportunity to go out there and
Speaker 1: make do with this, you know, you know, with their
Speaker 1: their ability and his opportunity. So I'm just looking forward
Speaker 1: to these guys going, you know, having a great year.
Speaker 1: I'm not big on size because I hear everybody, that's
Speaker 1: all you hear.
Speaker 2: Ring on size.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, because a couplet five five on a
Speaker 1: good day went out there and and ran circles round
Speaker 1: the best of them. So of course you're right. But
Speaker 1: I feel like we have those kind of guys there.
Speaker 3: You know, Jameson crowded shout out to yo GM him
Speaker 3: and Pringle crowded and Pringle hats off to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, just thinking about another defensive blue. Let's think about this.
Speaker 3: Let's we need I think we need to touch on
Speaker 3: this the defense in general. We haven't seen this projected
Speaker 3: starters play in a game together. You know, Duran and
Speaker 3: Jonathan neither one of them played in any of the
Speaker 3: preseason games, or Bobby Wagner defensively, what do you think
Speaker 3: this defense is gonna look like?
Speaker 2: Exciting?
Speaker 3: For one reason, I love the way those guys ran
Speaker 3: to the ball. And you're right, the starters that made
Speaker 3: it got the reps in practice and the joint practices,
Speaker 3: but the backups were just running to the ball. Everybody
Speaker 3: was around the ball, and it looked like and it's
Speaker 3: not a knock on last year and the staff what
Speaker 3: they did last year, but it felt like this defense
Speaker 3: under Joe went everybody, whether you're the first or third
Speaker 3: or second team, I mean second or thirdeen, you were
Speaker 3: all on the same page. You communicated, you move well.
Speaker 3: You know, London, we talked about a defense like, ain't
Speaker 3: no real big gaps here. It was a few times
Speaker 3: where teams may plays whatever, for the most part, they
Speaker 3: play well together at every level. So I think the
Speaker 3: defense is gonna be exciting. And you talk and talk
Speaker 3: about one reason is Joe Witch's attitude and what he
Speaker 3: brings down. Another thing man is bringing in Bobby wagoning
Speaker 3: with it. You know, people don't give that London. You
Speaker 3: came in year what nine here.
Speaker 2: Was going to season people closer and closer similar to
Speaker 2: look like Bobby, but the similar to Bobby.
Speaker 3: But people don't understand how important that is for you
Speaker 3: have that type of leadership in the middle of your
Speaker 3: field to get people lined up.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that is not like talk about it. You don't know.
Speaker 3: You have to be able to set the defense. Yes,
Speaker 3: and you so from your office perspective as soon as
Speaker 3: you come out, as soon as y'all come out of
Speaker 3: the field, off the out of the huddle, and a
Speaker 3: lot of time teams don't even huddle. Now me as
Speaker 3: a middle linebacker, I have to be able to see everything,
Speaker 3: everything in order. The reason being, I gotta set the
Speaker 3: front to your formation and who's the who's this still
Speaker 3: tight end? Whereas the pass if we got to blitz
Speaker 3: that set off the passing strip. We got a pressure
Speaker 3: to set off the week the weakness up the week
Speaker 3: passing strength, so I mean weakness, uh, things like that.
Speaker 3: All those things you have to be able to process
Speaker 3: and process quickly. Because Sean is a corner, I'm relying
Speaker 3: on London to make a ram call so that I
Speaker 3: don't have to take on to be rock well, not
Speaker 3: only you gotta you gotta you want to get outside
Speaker 3: and get set and look at the formation. Now he
Speaker 3: can go through his process of okay, this is the formation,
Speaker 3: here's an alignments this alignment this so the.
Speaker 2: Quicker you can make that call out.
Speaker 3: It allows everybody to play faster and play more, play better.
Speaker 3: So having a guy like Bobby Wagner, who's my season
Speaker 3: and they still can play so a lot of times
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, we talk about the experience piece,
Speaker 3: and he's a tremendous uh experienced player, but he's also
Speaker 3: still can make play make plays. He let league and
Speaker 3: tackles last year. Yeah, hell let league and tackles still
Speaker 3: can make plays. I'm looking forward to seeing what those
Speaker 3: guys do. I think the standard that Joe West had,
Speaker 3: Joe Jr. Has those guys playing that practice in that
Speaker 3: like he tell you, man, they safe for everybody.
Speaker 1: And I'm happy you have that kind of standard because
Speaker 1: you know, you understand, playing a long time here or
Speaker 1: just in the league alone, you know you don't like
Speaker 1: those teams where Phil has that country club by, you know,
Speaker 1: where everybody just happy and everybody feels safe. No, got
Speaker 1: you gotta fear that your job is on the line
Speaker 1: every time you step between those white lines on the
Speaker 1: practice field. That's how I took on practice, whether we
Speaker 1: had them kind of coaches around or not. And luckily, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I've always had I guess you could say probably one
Speaker 1: year that I didn't have a coach that put that
Speaker 1: kind of fear in his players, and that was my
Speaker 1: last year here, you know, understand, So so I've always
Speaker 1: had Gibbs was like that, Shannon Hans was like that,
Speaker 1: you have those coaches that, man, look, we're not taking
Speaker 1: you coming out here. Lack of day zuku in practice
Speaker 1: or not showing up and being the guy that we
Speaker 1: expect to be you to be on Sunday. So I
Speaker 1: love that temperament from my staff alone, because I feel
Speaker 1: like that's going to create the kind of chaos that
Speaker 1: they're trying to build within. You know, you know their playing,
Speaker 1: you know style or whatever.
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Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you, Jay.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you joining this man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys having me Aspir's finest man. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah right, you're right. JA got a new head coach.
Speaker 3: This is your third head coach that you've been in Washington.
Speaker 3: What's it like playing under Dan Quinn?
Speaker 8: I love it, I love it. I mean it's been
Speaker 8: my favorite coach so far. And I think it said
Speaker 8: something when you got guys like Bobby Wagner going in
Speaker 8: the year thirteams who want to come and play here
Speaker 8: because of coach Quinn in the atmosphere that he breathes
Speaker 8: like you guys see it, like the energy, how he
Speaker 8: takes care of the players while pushing us.
Speaker 7: Man, there's nothing like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And when you get a new coach, you always
Speaker 3: feel like you got to prove yourself. And so what
Speaker 3: was it that you wanted to show the new staff
Speaker 3: what you brought to the table Because they knew about
Speaker 3: you right obviously, but what did you want them to
Speaker 3: know about you?
Speaker 8: For me, the biggest thing that I wanted them to
Speaker 8: know about me is how hard I practice. I feel
Speaker 8: like I feel like everyone is going to play hard
Speaker 8: during the game. Come, I mean, that's just what we do.
Speaker 8: But I take a lot of pride in practice. And
Speaker 8: for me, I wanted to show them how tough I
Speaker 8: was on the practice field and how I don't like
Speaker 8: to miss time and really my work ethic, you know
Speaker 8: what I mean.
Speaker 7: So that was my biggest thing.
Speaker 1: Being that you've been through this before, you know, as
Speaker 1: London just you know, he alluded to this is your
Speaker 1: third head coach? Was it ever a time? And knowing
Speaker 1: that we finna get a new staff in here was
Speaker 1: it ever a time you saying how long is this
Speaker 1: going to take? You know what I mean? Am I
Speaker 1: going to get this staff that's going to come in
Speaker 1: and take me to where I'm trying to go on?
Speaker 1: So I need to go elsewhere? Like, did you ever
Speaker 1: have any of those thoughts in your head saying, Man,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I want to go through this
Speaker 1: again here.
Speaker 8: I'll be honest. That's how I felt at the end
Speaker 8: of the season last year. But after talking to mister
Speaker 8: Peters and coach Quinn, I knew that it was something
Speaker 8: I wanted to be a part of. I just like
Speaker 8: the energy they brought out, like what they were saying.
Speaker 8: And you know, I always said that I wasn't going
Speaker 8: to let the things that went on in the other
Speaker 8: regime effect my decision about this one. And you know,
Speaker 8: after OTS, I was like, win, loser, draw, this is
Speaker 8: something that I want to be a part of. I
Speaker 8: want to see it out.
Speaker 3: And it's Mitch just I'm glad you mentioned last season
Speaker 3: because we had you late in the season on the
Speaker 3: players Club and just looking you can see the frustration
Speaker 3: and that you were dealing with and seeing you and
Speaker 3: observing you this off season in training to cap in preseason.
Speaker 3: I can tell a different you, different energy, different vibe.
Speaker 3: You seem like you're in a better place, better space.
Speaker 3: What did it take to get you there? I know
Speaker 3: you went through you know, talking to Dan Quinn, talking
Speaker 3: to Adam Peters, but it also you know some things
Speaker 3: you probably had to do. Is just like, Okay, let's
Speaker 3: really get to where I want to be and really
Speaker 3: embrace this.
Speaker 7: I know for me it's not about the wins and losses.
Speaker 8: And I feel like that's something that a lot of
Speaker 8: fans think that I'm just frustrated because we lose, which
Speaker 8: I am, but whening there losing the NFL, in my opinion,
Speaker 8: comes down to five players a game, give or take.
Speaker 8: If they sing a different way, that's usually going to
Speaker 8: determine the game. For me, it's the process, and I
Speaker 8: mean the simple way I can put it. I just
Speaker 8: want to be around a bunch of dudes who love
Speaker 8: the game and want to play football the right way.
Speaker 7: If I can get that, hey, I can work with it.
Speaker 2: You played with Nick saban Man, but you want at
Speaker 2: every level.
Speaker 3: You won in high school, you won in college, and
Speaker 3: I know that's been adjustment. That's adjustment in your mindset.
Speaker 3: So you say it's not about winning, but you want
Speaker 3: to win.
Speaker 7: The Super one thousand percent.
Speaker 8: I definitely want to win, But before I can even
Speaker 8: focus on winning, if we're not doing the little things
Speaker 8: right here every single day, I can't even focus on that.
Speaker 8: So I love what we're building here. I love the
Speaker 8: guys we brought in. I mean, obviously, when you have
Speaker 8: a quarterback like Jayden Daniels really just gives everybody hope
Speaker 8: and really gives you a chance because you know, without
Speaker 8: having that quarterback position figured out, you don't got a
Speaker 8: chance in this league in today's football.
Speaker 1: You spoke about Bobby being here. Now has his present
Speaker 1: been felt already?
Speaker 7: For sure?
Speaker 8: I Mean when you look at a guy like Bobby,
Speaker 8: who's usually one of the first people here, how hard
Speaker 8: he works, it really gives no excuse to anybody else.
Speaker 2: You got a new DC also, Joe widd Jr.
Speaker 3: This is his first year being a defensive coordinator, and
Speaker 3: when you interview him, when we talk to him, I'm
Speaker 3: looking like, man, why is it what took him so
Speaker 3: what took him so long to get a deep DC job?
Speaker 3: We know what it's like to, you know, to talk
Speaker 3: to him outside of the meeting room. What's he like
Speaker 3: in the meeting rooms and also on the field? Good question,
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 7: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 8: You guys know, you can teach anybody exs and those
Speaker 8: that's not really hard. It just comes down to just
Speaker 8: knowing the game of football. But when you got a
Speaker 8: coach who you want to play hard for, who preaches,
Speaker 8: who lives what he preaches, and loves that physicality from
Speaker 8: the back all the way to the front, seven man,
Speaker 8: I love it. I just love him, and I'm I
Speaker 8: can't say how excited I am for Tampa bay Man,
Speaker 8: and if I don't, I don't like to guarantee a
Speaker 8: lot of things, but you're gonna like the way this
Speaker 8: defense looks. I can't say how we're going to perform
Speaker 8: because I don't like to make guarantees, but we're gonna
Speaker 8: go out there.
Speaker 2: We're gonna play real quick, real quick.
Speaker 3: So earlier today I actually was talking to to Joe.
Speaker 3: I ran into him in the hallway and I mentioned
Speaker 3: to him there was a play in the preseason game
Speaker 3: against New England where they ran I think a screen or.
Speaker 2: Something, and it was ten guys in the in the frame.
Speaker 3: Ten guys in the frame just around the football, and
Speaker 3: the eleven guy the only reason he wasn't in the frame,
Speaker 3: so just because he was a corner, you know, playing
Speaker 3: outside or whatever. That's what you're talking about and playing
Speaker 3: with that type of intensity and just go get.
Speaker 1: I was gonna allude to that too, because that's noticeable.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, you know, we watching preseasons, so it's
Speaker 1: hard to really get up for it and say everything
Speaker 1: is vanilla. But the one thing that stands out, especially defensively,
Speaker 1: everybody to the ball. I mean, you had young guys
Speaker 1: in there tackling like they was linebackers. And I'm sitting here,
Speaker 1: you know, I was joking with Fred. I'm like, Fred, yeah,
Speaker 1: you couldn't play very noticeable, bro, And that's something that
Speaker 1: you know. I'm a receiver and I understood what it
Speaker 1: took to stop guys on a high level. And I
Speaker 1: used to I'm watching I'm gonna be real with you.
Speaker 1: I've said this all last year. I didn't like the
Speaker 1: way we played outside because no one was physical, Nobody
Speaker 1: bumping on it, nobody putting hands, nobody. And instantly you
Speaker 1: see that already, so you know that's that jumps off
Speaker 1: the screen. You just spoke about it. We're gonna like
Speaker 1: what we see. I can't wait to see. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to see it in a real game, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 8: The standards of the standard and Coach Coin said the
Speaker 8: best places for anybody.
Speaker 7: But it's not for everybody.
Speaker 2: So what's next for Jonathan Allen Man, perennial pro bowler.
Speaker 2: How do you take your game? Which is year seven?
Speaker 7: Right, you're going to year eight?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what's next? How do you take your game? Here?
Speaker 8: I think for me, the difference between great players and
Speaker 8: average players just consistency. Great players have. Great players have
Speaker 8: more great plays more consistently. And I don't think that's
Speaker 8: me going out there and search for players, but I
Speaker 8: think that's me falling back on my training and doing
Speaker 8: little things the right way, taking care of my body
Speaker 8: like I never have before, take care of my nutrition
Speaker 8: like I never have before, and just raising up my
Speaker 8: floor so my floor is high consistently. So if I
Speaker 8: do that, I think that's the difference between you know,
Speaker 8: good and great players. So I'm looking to be great
Speaker 8: more consistently.
Speaker 3: You're missing changing your nutrition and you shared that you
Speaker 3: hired a chef for the first time this year. You
Speaker 3: look lean even at you know, three hundred poles. I
Speaker 3: guess whatever you are, but you look lean at and
Speaker 3: you can tell the difference. What was kind of the
Speaker 3: thought process behind, Hey, I want to I want to
Speaker 3: hire a chef, get in the best shape. I don't
Speaker 3: know if this best shape you've ever been there, but
Speaker 3: just just maybe doing something different this offseason.
Speaker 2: What was the thought process?
Speaker 8: I saw a quote from Lebron James and I thought
Speaker 8: that was so interesting. He said, if you want to
Speaker 8: be great in your craft, you're going to have to
Speaker 8: sacrifice your loved ones.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.
Speaker 8: And that's a conversation of how my wife like, we're
Speaker 8: not gonna be able to spend as much time together,
Speaker 8: We're not gonna be able to go out on days
Speaker 8: like we like to. It's going to be a sacrifice
Speaker 8: between me and you and our relationship. You just have
Speaker 8: to understand why I'm doing it. So I saw that
Speaker 8: and that really hit home to me because I would
Speaker 8: I want to sacrifice my relationship as much as I
Speaker 8: feel like I could have, and I think that's been
Speaker 8: a huge change for me. We don't go out anymore
Speaker 8: handing those at seven o'clock every night, I'm putting on
Speaker 8: my game ready, my normoutech got a two hour routine
Speaker 8: every single night going to bed. Can't go home and
Speaker 8: watch TV and spend the quality time that I know
Speaker 8: that she likes.
Speaker 7: But and that's why I think it's.
Speaker 8: So important to have a great woman, you know what
Speaker 8: I mean that I don't have to do it on
Speaker 8: my own, but she has to understand if I want
Speaker 8: to take my game to the next level, it's I'm
Speaker 8: gonna have to sacrifice you.
Speaker 7: And she's cool with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've all had we've all been on that road.
Speaker 1: I remember just talking to someone recently. Someone from my
Speaker 1: university reached out to me like, hey man, we want to,
Speaker 1: you know, collaborate with you on Instagram about the six
Speaker 1: six days until we play our game. And he was
Speaker 1: asking me some questions and I was like, that's one
Speaker 1: of the things that stood out to me in college
Speaker 1: that I took with myself, you know, pro wise. You know,
Speaker 1: I remember when I got hurt my first year and
Speaker 1: I was trying to get back to Tanner that was
Speaker 1: playing on that level collegiately in the pros, and the
Speaker 1: first thing I had to do was cut friends, cut
Speaker 1: my eating habits, cut my hanging out having us. You know,
Speaker 1: I knew that that got me through college. So when
Speaker 1: you speaking of it, it just resonated with me, because
Speaker 1: that's what people fail to realize. Like if you take
Speaker 1: a little bit out. You know, Coach Coach Davis or
Speaker 1: Bush Davis used to always ask us how many slices
Speaker 1: of pie you giving out your pie? See what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you say I got a piece for everybody and
Speaker 1: all these other things, then you don't have enough for
Speaker 1: yourself to be great. And that's you know that that
Speaker 1: made me think about that. So that's the way to
Speaker 1: go about it. Man. And I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: But I've been watching you every year here throughout your
Speaker 1: whole career.
Speaker 2: Here with us, and I've been watching them since high school.
Speaker 1: Regardless.
Speaker 2: I watched this West Scale scrimmage real quick before we
Speaker 2: let John go.
Speaker 3: You gotta tells the story about what he showed up
Speaker 3: at your your camp.
Speaker 2: You hand.
Speaker 3: So you know, I through the Shawn Springs camp every year,
Speaker 3: and real good camp. It was all about giving it
Speaker 3: back and it wasn't as many high schools was today
Speaker 3: and the aspern this community, and I'm looking on the sideline.
Speaker 3: I see a big old dude in the cut off shirt.
Speaker 3: I'm like Mackey, coach, who's the new parent. He goes, Man,
Speaker 3: that's that's that's my uh my d tackle Jonathan Allen.
Speaker 3: And when I said it was a tenth grader, right,
Speaker 3: he don't even remember he was about in tenth grade.
Speaker 3: I said, hey, man, and I think Jonathan, if I'm
Speaker 3: not mistaken, he just came from like Alabama or somethingwhere
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: He had moved up here.
Speaker 3: And uh he was just a humble kid working the
Speaker 3: camp at the sleeves cut off the stone Bridge. And
Speaker 3: I remember watching him in scrimmage the very He'll remember
Speaker 3: this play, man. I seen him like I think it
Speaker 3: was Westfield Centerville, like bull rusted center. Threw him down,
Speaker 3: hit the full back and slacked the quarterback. I was like, man,
Speaker 3: he can start for us to do.
Speaker 2: He can start from you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Like that's a great way right here, man, joh We
Speaker 3: absolutely appreciate you being on this edition.
Speaker 2: Of the Players Club.
Speaker 3: We like to have all our guests side of football, Matt,
Speaker 3: if you would side of this ball with my side
Speaker 3: of this ball.
Speaker 2: We greatly appreciate that offus.
Speaker 7: I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 8: I used to come up here every year for y'all's
Speaker 8: training camp and be out in the stands, so it's
Speaker 8: always sur real for me being able to come here
Speaker 8: and talk to you, guys.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: for everyone since nineteen eighty eight, fellas what we got
Speaker 1: to do to get off to a fast start this season.
Speaker 3: You know what, I think, first and foremost, gotta protect
Speaker 3: the football. That's the first and foremost thing. Turnovers are
Speaker 3: such a big indicator or determinate of who wins the
Speaker 3: football game. So protecting the football and being able to
Speaker 3: also convert on the flip side of that, take the
Speaker 3: ball away. We protected the football, winning and turnover battle,
Speaker 3: I think those are That's definitely one way we can
Speaker 3: get off to a fast start.
Speaker 2: For me, it's play clean football.
Speaker 3: I think they did a good job in the preseason,
Speaker 3: not too many penalties or whatever in games. And one
Speaker 3: way you can lead to turnovers is you can get
Speaker 3: like a holding on offense, get backed up and then
Speaker 3: have a third long and you.
Speaker 2: Get a penalty. So for me, it's about play clean football.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's let's not jump off side.
Speaker 3: Let's you know, there's no passing apperance, that's do all
Speaker 3: the things. Let's not give the ball game away. Let's
Speaker 3: let's make opponents beat us.
Speaker 1: I think that go hand in hand. I think you know,
Speaker 1: if you playing clean football, protecting the football. That allows
Speaker 1: you to now get yourself in position to score football,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's that's my number
Speaker 1: one thing. You know, when I was an offensive guy,
Speaker 1: uh playing each and every time we had a we
Speaker 1: had a driver is I wanted to get get in
Speaker 1: scoring drive, whether it's three or six, and were kicking
Speaker 1: the extra field you know, I mean, I'm kicking an
Speaker 1: extra point. You're trying to get points every time, you
Speaker 1: feel and it makes the world of a difference if
Speaker 1: you see yourself offensively having those opportunities, because now, regardless
Speaker 1: of what you know happens defensively, if you're scoring, you're
Speaker 1: still giving yourself a chance, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you're not and that that next team get the
Speaker 1: ball in driving score, you're putting yourself that far behind
Speaker 1: the eight ball.
Speaker 3: So, and what's what's the term is a fast start?
Speaker 3: Are we talking at the first quarter of the season?
Speaker 3: Is two and two a fast start? Or three and
Speaker 3: one a fast start? Obviously we love to go four
Speaker 3: and oh right, you know we're talking like.
Speaker 2: I guess that's that's a very good point. That's a
Speaker 2: great point. What's what's the fast start?
Speaker 3: You know, let's say this the game against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3: We haven't talked a whole lot about that. That's that's
Speaker 3: gonna be a challenge going down there. But I love
Speaker 3: it though, because now you Tampa Bay very under the rated,
Speaker 3: under the radar type of team. They were a playoff team,
Speaker 3: won a playoff game. One of the Detroit last last
Speaker 3: season had them as a one score game late now
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter or in the fourth quarter of
Speaker 3: that ball game, you know Todd Bowles and that defense.
Speaker 3: We don't have to go in there protecting the football.
Speaker 3: I think, Well, let's address the elephant in the room.
Speaker 2: Then to the fast start.
Speaker 3: Then with a rookie quarterback, well let's address so let's address.
Speaker 2: It like you elefit of the role.
Speaker 3: I don't know, we've been messing around, but in order
Speaker 3: to we all know that the quarterback position and how
Speaker 3: they bring Jayden because because in the preseason he played
Speaker 3: and he looked when he was in there, and but
Speaker 3: that wasn't the you can't count that and that wasn't
Speaker 3: the full full. Uh, what's the arsenal of everything that leash?
Speaker 3: How much are you going to little faster I be,
Speaker 3: how much you put on Jayden's plate the first game
Speaker 3: when it comes to the play calling and you know
Speaker 3: what you give him.
Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna talk about just when you mentioned
Speaker 1: far as record wise being a fast.
Speaker 2: Start, but it's all coming down quarterback.
Speaker 1: It all comes to the quarterback. It all comes to them.
Speaker 1: Its playing as a unit a fast start. To me,
Speaker 1: that's gonna basically hear at both of what y'all questions,
Speaker 1: record wise and quarterback wise. It's how how much they
Speaker 1: look like a team out the gate. Yeah, because they're
Speaker 1: not a team until you go out there and you
Speaker 1: play together, you know what I mean. Yeah, we could
Speaker 1: come out and say we all the same any more.
Speaker 1: But when you know you have a team, it's when
Speaker 1: those guys are complimenting each other. You understand defensively, offensively,
Speaker 1: special teams. Everybody's out there putting each other in position
Speaker 1: to succeed. So to me, the fast start would be one,
Speaker 1: how well do they look like a group? You don't
Speaker 1: have to win to look good as a team. You
Speaker 1: can play good enough and say, man, they just lost
Speaker 1: it by a field goal, they just lost it by
Speaker 1: you know, whatever it may be. But to me, that
Speaker 1: will that will basically get that to what you're saying
Speaker 1: record wise, because if they look like a team early,
Speaker 1: then they have the potential to have a better record,
Speaker 1: whether it's it starts early or leader you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But you want them to look like what
Speaker 1: they're trying to be the culture that said, and you
Speaker 1: want to see that out the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Now you you made the comment that the fast start
Speaker 3: and getting off to a fast start and winning all
Speaker 3: that it's all about the quarterback.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's.
Speaker 1: All about I don't really I don't think it's all
Speaker 1: about the quarterback.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 1: You don't have to put it, so go ahead.
Speaker 2: He's a major part of it.
Speaker 3: The quarterback is because the position, he's a major part
Speaker 3: of But if you think about this, there's so many
Speaker 3: other weapons that we have offen we got it. We
Speaker 3: got some backs that can run the rock. We got
Speaker 3: you you can get the ball out of his head quick.
Speaker 3: We got some defense that they don't have to do
Speaker 3: their part. They don't have to make plays, they're don't
Speaker 3: have to take the football away. So the it's it's
Speaker 3: not all about the quarterback. All eyes will be on
Speaker 3: him because that's just the nature of the position. And
Speaker 3: he's the second overall pick, Heisman Trophy winner. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: he don't have to play well, but he doesn't have
Speaker 3: to be the saving that's have to And I don't
Speaker 3: think I don't think you going to Tampa Bay in
Speaker 3: that type of environment with with the Todd.
Speaker 2: Bows defense saying hey Jaden, you gotta you know, that's
Speaker 2: not what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm saying in a different way London and Seawan Springs
Speaker 3: on defense, we know going into the game, a rookie
Speaker 3: quarterback is gonna have to beat us. That play calling
Speaker 3: edge going to be. I don't care how good Santana is.
Speaker 3: He could be all pro. But if I don't feel
Speaker 3: like Jayden can get him the ball accurately deep ball
Speaker 3: hit me in spots, I don't have no fear. So
Speaker 3: what I was saying, it's not all about the quarterback,
Speaker 3: but it is also everybody is going into the game
Speaker 3: Kennem rookie quarterback beat me, beat one.
Speaker 1: But with that being said, is what that rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: brings to the table as well.
Speaker 2: That's exactly so.
Speaker 1: With that being said, you can't also be in certain
Speaker 1: coverages knowing that he can be running up behind you,
Speaker 1: behind if you got your back turned to him, that
Speaker 1: that's what And just from what you saw, simple sized preseason,
Speaker 1: he's thrown it in him. So get your point. You
Speaker 1: one hundred percent right, But when you look at him,
Speaker 1: you're gonna come in that game saying this is what
Speaker 1: I know about Jaden from what I saw in collage
Speaker 1: and what I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. Pros give him that
Speaker 2: respect the first week. First you fastart, I don't know
Speaker 2: if we do, and.
Speaker 1: And and then you'll be that product that ball going
Speaker 1: behind you. You know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, I will, I would, I would respect you because
Speaker 3: I'm saying I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit on Santana.
Speaker 2: Yeah but you But but we're talking, we're Runnon and
Speaker 2: Greg and we were.
Speaker 3: Talking like, here's the here's the thing that we have.
Speaker 3: First and foremost, they don't know what the offense is
Speaker 3: gonna look like. They mean, it's the type of bay bucket.
Speaker 3: They haven't seen Washington, the Washington command, this true offense.
Speaker 2: They got some. They got some.
Speaker 3: They might they watch watch and all the stuff, But
Speaker 3: you gotta understand this. It's a mession of Arizona's offense
Speaker 3: athlete Lynn As the run game coordinator, what he brought from,
Speaker 3: what he's bringing to from San Francisco, and those elements
Speaker 3: Brian Johnson past game coordinated, what philosophies and things he'll
Speaker 3: he's bringing to him, you know. So there's a lot
Speaker 3: of different elements to this office. They they don't see
Speaker 3: one thing that we know. We know who the Tampa
Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers are. They're high pressure team. They blitch the
Speaker 3: third most out of anybody in the National Football Ball
Speaker 3: League from a percentage standpoint last week last year.
Speaker 2: So having a game plan that has answers.
Speaker 3: For those blitzes is what the game plan will, you know,
Speaker 3: be highly predicated on.
Speaker 1: And thank god they don't have shack and white.
Speaker 2: That's worrying. It is time for fan questions. Let's go,
Speaker 2: let's do this and let me kick it off. The
Speaker 2: Actress TV twenty personal question.
Speaker 3: When is the world? When in the world are they
Speaker 3: going to give you your gold jacket? I think she
Speaker 3: might be talking about London, but I will answer for myself. No,
Speaker 3: that was a personal questions. Here's a real question, serious questions.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about the linebacker corps and well,
Speaker 3: Jamin Davis breakout as an ad as an edge rusher.
Speaker 3: That's a great question. Yeah, I feel great about the
Speaker 3: linebacker corps. I look at the additions that they made.
Speaker 3: First and foremost, Frankie Louvu was the highest, the highest
Speaker 3: rated linebacker free agency. We were able to get him
Speaker 3: very underrated, playing in a small market like Carolina. He
Speaker 3: just didn't hear a lot about him. He's a baller,
Speaker 3: can do everything. Then Bobby Wagner, we know what he is.
Speaker 3: Speaking of gold jackets, he will have one of those.
Speaker 2: And the young guys.
Speaker 3: You know they drafted Jordan McGee. I know he's injury
Speaker 3: right now, but I thought I thought he's he was
Speaker 3: going to sail. But collectively, it's an entirely new lineback
Speaker 3: and Corps is looking at Jamin as a edge rusher,
Speaker 3: and as it speaks to Jamin, I think he's really
Speaker 3: developing as an edge rusher and be showing that he
Speaker 3: can play that position.
Speaker 1: What's up? Next question? Fan question at Dominique Underscore O
Speaker 1: r S. I n I that because I don't know
Speaker 1: how to pronounce it. What player on this roster were
Speaker 1: you most like to have on yours? I guess they
Speaker 1: can say your team, and uh so, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's a two question things. So I'm gonna answer
Speaker 1: that one first, which player on this roster? What I
Speaker 1: most likely have on my team? That's a good one, man,
Speaker 1: that's a good question.
Speaker 3: They try to ask, like, who you think is the
Speaker 3: best player that you want to say? What team were
Speaker 3: talking about?
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of my Washington teams. If I had to
Speaker 1: pick a guy, I would have loved the two guys.
Speaker 1: I would have loved the dran Payne type player, John
Speaker 1: day Adam type player, because I felt like we was missing.
Speaker 2: That we had big griff.
Speaker 1: We had big grip, but we was missing the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber griff remember you good he got hurt. Was
Speaker 1: missing that Pro Bowl rush talent. So I would have
Speaker 1: loved to have two guys like then, what you about
Speaker 1: you guys?
Speaker 2: For me, it's Jane Daniels.
Speaker 3: I think Jaden is a I mean he is a
Speaker 3: superstar potentially in the making. You saw Chris Collins work
Speaker 3: on Sunday Night said, hey man, this guy is a star.
Speaker 2: I think Jane is gonna be starting.
Speaker 3: Let me get let me, let me touch real quick.
Speaker 3: I would love to have seen you paired with Terry
Speaker 3: Terry Klain. I think y'all too with this dabbit.
Speaker 1: You're right, you absolutely right, I said, cook because you
Speaker 1: got a guy that's real gritty and Terry, Terry, just
Speaker 1: get it, get it done, no matter how. And I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I was like a batterina out
Speaker 1: there on the field, man, right on my toes. Don't
Speaker 1: watch the light on my toes out there.
Speaker 2: Maybe laid on.
Speaker 1: My toes out there, man, watch me.
Speaker 2: Man, it was like a mosquito.
Speaker 1: I was. I was tip toe across. I was light
Speaker 1: on my toes. Hey, No, okay, next question, what player
Speaker 1: from your roster would most help this current squad?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 3: They need a covered corner like me, I would say,
Speaker 3: I like that Chris Samuels.
Speaker 2: Though, I would say your left tackle. Yeah.
Speaker 4: In a big addition, top yeah, man, I would blue
Speaker 4: definitely because he said you need a corner, need a corner?
Speaker 2: Man? Who else Sean Oh got they got safeties. They
Speaker 2: got safeties. That's left. I think we in the consistence
Speaker 2: may be the left tackle Trent or the left left
Speaker 2: tack Hey Tanner on this team. Yeah, think about it.
Speaker 2: They Yeah, you need you need more than one? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got two ones? Yeah, you got him
Speaker 3: and Teri's two ones. Ballerida over here, Yeah, Ballerina all right,
Speaker 3: I got a questions for you. This is ye jab fifteen.
Speaker 3: Who besides Jaden are you? Who besides Jayden are your
Speaker 3: breakout starts to watch on offense and defense this year?
Speaker 3: For me, it has to be a Centistra Mike is
Speaker 3: a monster. That kid that's gonna play. Obviously, we saw
Speaker 3: him playing in a slot London. We talked, we were
Speaker 3: talking about this earlier. We saw him playing in the slot.
Speaker 3: But we think he has a footwork and potentially even
Speaker 3: play outside if need be. I think he's a he's
Speaker 3: an X factor, is a rookie, and I think he's
Speaker 3: gonna be He's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: Defensively, I would say Louver. I mean, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: wagon It's gonna be Wagoned. He's gonna be the guy.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the QB or the defense. But I
Speaker 1: just I want to see that that kind of play
Speaker 1: from Louver level. And I don't know if I'm pronouncing
Speaker 1: his name right, you know, but Louvu love Louvu. He
Speaker 1: just one of those guys. He had that fact he
Speaker 1: had like you just look at him. Man, the way
Speaker 1: he lines up, you are jerseys back in the day.
Speaker 1: He was like one of those guys watching him in practice.
Speaker 1: So I can just imagine how he's going to be.
Speaker 1: And I watched them all last year, you know, playing
Speaker 1: in Carolina, so defensively.
Speaker 3: I would say him, what about your offense, guy, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say mine for the last both y'all got offensive guy.
Speaker 3: I want to see, you know, and I might be
Speaker 3: a little biased because I played against his dad. I
Speaker 3: want to see if McCaffrey could develop into the third guy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I want to see if he actually because because because
Speaker 3: the kids been playing with receiver two years, I thought
Speaker 3: he showed some spark in preseason.
Speaker 2: His pedigree with his family, you know.
Speaker 3: You know, so I would say him, and that might
Speaker 3: be a little bitter because I think Yai had a
Speaker 3: great preseason, but I would love to see McCaffrey like,
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a good player.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just keep it obvious, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with Terry. I mean, we've seen Terry put up
Speaker 1: the number and take obvious what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, because because it's obvious that he's one of those
Speaker 3: guys that you can count on.
Speaker 1: But every year is a new year, and he got
Speaker 1: a new quarterback. So I want to see Terry. Terry
Speaker 1: hasn't been dynamic the way that we know he could
Speaker 1: be because of the said you understand now having this quarterback.
Speaker 1: If these guys get on track.
Speaker 2: He's still a rookie, He's still a rookie yet, right.
Speaker 1: This is the talent, the the his abilities that you
Speaker 1: know what, the way he can pass the ball, the
Speaker 1: way he can you know read right now, from what
Speaker 1: we saw some of the things just getting Terry the ball,
Speaker 1: he seemed to be a guy that knows how to
Speaker 1: get the guys that can help him out the ball
Speaker 1: in their hands, you know, fast and let them do
Speaker 1: what they got to do. So I just want to
Speaker 1: see Terry have a great start, you know, with the
Speaker 1: with a quarterback, because I think he will help the
Speaker 1: quarterback tremendously if he can get out there and show
Speaker 1: him like, look, men, I'm open s throw me the ball.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I'm so Offensively, my breakout star is
Speaker 3: be rob rob Robinson Jr. I think him in this
Speaker 3: offense was his ability or greater emphasis first and foremost
Speaker 3: on running the ball, he's gonna he's gonna put up
Speaker 3: turn up yards. He should have over a thousand yards rushing.
Speaker 3: But also his skills set in catching the football. He
Speaker 3: had natural hands catching the football. And I'm sure they'll
Speaker 3: figure out ways to get him involved in the passing game.
Speaker 3: So when you can buy those two things together, him
Speaker 3: being able to catch the ball out of the backfield
Speaker 3: great inferences on running the ball.
Speaker 2: He's going to be a breakout star in this league.
Speaker 3: And if you play fantasy football, I know a lot
Speaker 3: of teams that a lot of people are drafting players
Speaker 3: you want to I think you want draft well, I'm
Speaker 3: thinking about the fantasy But he is gonna split those
Speaker 3: touches with Eler on the third down, right because you
Speaker 3: never was clearly brought here for the down package change.
Speaker 3: But and then so that that's my offensive guy. Defensively,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Dorance Armstrong. Yeah, like he produced
Speaker 3: in a limited role with the Cowboys last year. Ye
Speaker 3: as a pass rusher, could go inside, could play outside.
Speaker 2: It's defensive man.
Speaker 3: He's going to play a lot more snaps here. Whether
Speaker 3: it's I don't know what the percent is gonna be.
Speaker 3: Imagine at least sixty percent of the place he can
Speaker 3: be on the field. With more snaps, he'll he'll get
Speaker 3: more productivity out of him and offenses, if you think
Speaker 3: about it, they're gonna be first and foremost. Hey, we
Speaker 3: gotta get it. We gotta get Deron and Jonathan Block.
Speaker 3: Got to make sure we get these guy So he'll
Speaker 3: be getting a lot of one on one something like that.
Speaker 3: So I'm thinking and thinking that he can have a
Speaker 3: breakout season because with more playing time and the guys
Speaker 3: he'll be playing with the loan that defensive front. Let
Speaker 3: me ask you thinking about in that same line, So, uh,
Speaker 3: jar Man, he's playing d n now, right, he's an
Speaker 3: edge rush jam I'm sorry, Jamie's playing ed rusher now.
Speaker 3: So we gotta look at him as it's a new
Speaker 3: new breakout guy. Could he be a breakout guy? I
Speaker 3: don't know if he was.
Speaker 2: I don't a few standpoint how many yeah, how many snaps?
Speaker 2: So how many?
Speaker 1: Now he could be could be that guy like like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had last year when they used to bring
Speaker 1: in Fouler and he got the spark he said, that's
Speaker 1: the defense at times. He could bring that kind of
Speaker 1: spark to the defense. Just knowing that he probably gonna
Speaker 1: be subbed in at times when we need to play,
Speaker 1: need somebody to come out, you know, come off the
Speaker 1: edge for a little faster or whatever, because I think
Speaker 1: he brings that to the team more than anything. You know,
Speaker 1: he might not, he might be rusty or I can't
Speaker 1: even say rusty. He might be what she called it
Speaker 1: raw raw at that position. But I think with just
Speaker 1: his ability to play fast, it's gonna be a shock
Speaker 1: to I might want some teams tackle that. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I want. I won't ready for this. And now he
Speaker 1: gets he gets into a rhythm and gets into a
Speaker 1: groove and you know, have a good season doing it.
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