WEBVTT - Hour 1 - Paul Lukas (04-16-20)

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<v Speaker 1>the country. As plans is starting to develop to open

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<v Speaker 1>up sports, leagues are facing the very real possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>competing without fans. And there's a lot of factors to

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<v Speaker 1>consider here. First of all, you have public safety, you

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<v Speaker 1>have the financial impact, and then just the logistics of

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<v Speaker 1>getting everybody in one area to try to play these games.

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<v Speaker 1>But something that's harder to quantify is really the bond

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<v Speaker 1>between fans and the competitors. You know, that adrenaline rush

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<v Speaker 1>you get from hearing the roar of the crowd, you

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<v Speaker 1>hit a last second shot, you hit a home run,

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<v Speaker 1>you strike somebody out with the bases loaded, the rituals

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<v Speaker 1>of tailgating, the sense of community you have when your

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<v Speaker 1>team goes out there rallying for the home team, and

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<v Speaker 1>the stronger leagues can make this work financially. TV money

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<v Speaker 1>has changed the way many sports are organized, and most

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<v Speaker 1>of the industry should be able to survive without ticket revenue.

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<v Speaker 1>As fans were hungry to watch. We want to watch

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<v Speaker 1>something that's real, But something will be lost during the

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<v Speaker 1>strange and unprecedented time. It'll be lost in translation there

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<v Speaker 1>because we're going to be watching, we won't be there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to be playing, but they won't hear us.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be something that we're not going to forget. Players

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to forget. But hopefully it's a brief

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<v Speaker 1>period that will be able to safely root for our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite teams in person at some point. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about jump starting the economy, and everybody wants

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<v Speaker 1>that to happen. I don't understand when we attach sports

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<v Speaker 1>to jump starting the economy. You jump start the economy

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<v Speaker 1>through sports. If you're able to go to sports. If

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<v Speaker 1>I can have one hundred thousand fans at the Big House,

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<v Speaker 1>if I can get twenty thousand, it's staples. If I

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<v Speaker 1>can get ninety thousand at the Coliseum to watch USC football,

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<v Speaker 1>that's helping to jump start the economy. If you're playing

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<v Speaker 1>a game and I can't go to the game, and

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<v Speaker 1>all I'm doing is doing what I'm doing now, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's sitting at home. That's not jumpstarting the economy. So

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree with the leaders who say, hey, this will

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<v Speaker 1>help jump start the economy until we get to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a game. It's not jumpstarting the economy. It jump

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<v Speaker 1>starts our mood because now we have something that we

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<v Speaker 1>can watch that's live, instead of saying, hey, let me

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<v Speaker 1>go back and watch something from nineteen seventy two. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Kareem Abdul Jabbar and the Bucks against the Detroit Pistons, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I was watching this morning. Kareem is

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<v Speaker 1>so great. He is so great back then. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was Oscar too, his point guard. And then you had

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<v Speaker 1>some people talking yesterday, people who get paid to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>The Vice president Vice President Pence had a call with

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<v Speaker 1>college college commissioners, and you've had some reaction to this.

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<v Speaker 1>USA Today said part of the call had to do

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<v Speaker 1>with differentiating college sports from professional leagues. Pro athletes can

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<v Speaker 1>collectively bargain their working conditions in their return to play.

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<v Speaker 1>College athletes cannot. In fact, the liability of bringing college

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<v Speaker 1>sports back too soon and exposing athletes to infection could

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<v Speaker 1>be significant. The Commissioners USA Today goes on to say,

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<v Speaker 1>will be the main entity that will decide when college

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<v Speaker 1>sports return, with input from the NCAA and medical personnel.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, college football does not have a central authority.

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<v Speaker 1>Most power is held by the Power five conferences, ACC,

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<v Speaker 1>Big ten, Big twelve, Pack twelve. In sec you can't

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<v Speaker 1>order them back, and you can't you can't say to

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<v Speaker 1>your athletes, hey, it's not safe enough for students to

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<v Speaker 1>come back, but come on back. Not gonna happen, can happen,

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't say to them they're student athletes. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it really puts them in a precarious position. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if your kids, you know your children are one of

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<v Speaker 1>those players, and you can't go back to school, but

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<v Speaker 1>we want you to go back and play football. If

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<v Speaker 1>they have safeguards put in place where everybody is tested,

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<v Speaker 1>where those who need to get tested can get tested.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we start to look at the athletes and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get them tested, and you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that on a weekly basis. All it takes is

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<v Speaker 1>one person to test positive, and then you shut down

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<v Speaker 1>one person. Let's say Michigan's football comes back one player

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<v Speaker 1>test positive, you shut it down right. Those are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the hurdles that you have here, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>it's difficult. You know, you're talking about a mayor in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, Mayor Garcetti. You're talking about the governor, Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to be having fans in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>at sporting events, not anytime soon. You know, the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>is planning on this. I told you, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's I don't even know what day it is sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>but was it a week ago or two weeks ago?

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL's looking at a truncated schedule that they're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at twelve game, fourteen game. Maybe you get to sixteen games,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have to look at alternative plans here. Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Post had that yesterday, Mark Maski, while still publicly committed

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<v Speaker 1>to kicking off its twenty twenty season in September to

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<v Speaker 1>pack stadiums, the NFL has been contemplating contingencies that include

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<v Speaker 1>a potentially shortened schedule, holding games and empty or partially

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<v Speaker 1>filled stadiums, and moving or rescheduling games if necessary. That's

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<v Speaker 1>three people familiar with the league's planning set on Wednesday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got that information. Two weeks ago and they were

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<v Speaker 1>looking at you know, it was probably going to be

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<v Speaker 1>twelve games. I said, would they go down to ten?

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<v Speaker 1>And I got a pause at the other end and said,

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<v Speaker 1>probably not. They would want to try to get twelve

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<v Speaker 1>games if possible. A lot of scenarios, and we should

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<v Speaker 1>be thinking about scenarios. But I also think you got

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<v Speaker 1>to Mike Trout said yesterday to Mike Treco on NBC

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Network. Look, I don't want to be quarantined for

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<v Speaker 1>four months. My wife is pregnant. I can't leave to

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<v Speaker 1>then be there for the birth of my first child.

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<v Speaker 1>But they want to get paid. They need to get paid.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's so many different loopholes here. Can I put

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<v Speaker 1>a big bubble over Phoenix and Scottsdale and Chandler, Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>and say, yeah, go in there and it'll be safe.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it's safe. Can I do that to Florida

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<v Speaker 1>where it's far more spread out. It's just a challenge

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<v Speaker 1>here to try to do it. You got the WWE

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<v Speaker 1>coming back, the UFC is going to be coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk to the Commissioner of Golf the

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<v Speaker 1>PGA tomorrow and ask about golf coming back. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see golf coming back. You know there is

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<v Speaker 1>social distancing. I could see tennis coming back. There's social distancing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any fans there, but you could still

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<v Speaker 1>hold those types of events. You could do remote cameras

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<v Speaker 1>with golf. Augusta could set that up right now. They

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<v Speaker 1>have the money, they have the infrastructure there to just

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<v Speaker 1>set up remote cameras. It's not going to look pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll have robotic cameras. That's what we have here in

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<v Speaker 1>the man Cave, robotic cameras. One person is in control

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<v Speaker 1>of that, set it up. Number of people. You limit

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<v Speaker 1>the number of people who go out to work on

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<v Speaker 1>the course, and you hold an event. Now the players

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<v Speaker 1>understand social distancing, You and your caddy. That's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can do some of these sports. It's

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<v Speaker 1>what are we rushing back for. You know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>jump starting the economy. And if it was, I'd say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, but if no fans can go, this is

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<v Speaker 1>about TV revenue, This is about the TV networks here,

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<v Speaker 1>This is about the players getting paid. That's not jump

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<v Speaker 1>starting any economy. But we continue to search here and

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<v Speaker 1>we continue to try to come up with scenarios which

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<v Speaker 1>which we should It's when we put a time frame

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<v Speaker 1>on these leagues on a decision. Look how many times

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<v Speaker 1>we've done this all of the sports, you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to come back in April. Hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>planning on coming back first to May. Hey, we're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about June. Hey, now there might not be football in

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<v Speaker 1>the fall. Now we're talking about springfoot. We're all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place here, and that's where it gets dangerous because

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<v Speaker 1>you're pushing something that maybe it's the immovable force against

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<v Speaker 1>the irresistible object. You've got to be careful of how

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<v Speaker 1>much we push, how much we open this up. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have friends who live in states and say, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the big deal here? I have a friend who

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<v Speaker 1>lived lives in Arizona. He's playing golf every day. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>We don't see anything. This isn't a big deal out here.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, it might be, but there are other country,

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the country that are severely impacted by this,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got to be fair to them. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>Rutgers playing in the New York City area, can you

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<v Speaker 1>really host a game? Can you travel Syracuse? Can you travel?

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<v Speaker 1>Can somebody you know they're all these logistical nightmares. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we're exploring it, and yes, we all want

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<v Speaker 1>it to come back, but I just don't think anything's

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<v Speaker 1>coming back anytime soon. There's gonna be a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure to do it. I just don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>we could do it and make it safe for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get on any political soapbox. I try not to.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to be realistic. I'm being honest with

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<v Speaker 1>you in what I see, what I hear, and what

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<v Speaker 1>I think. There're no political I don't want to weaponize

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<v Speaker 1>anything that to do with COVID nineteen. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>had opportunity to go to Yale Hospital two days ago

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<v Speaker 1>with my wife, who makes ice cream, and she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to hand it out to workers, just to show up

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<v Speaker 1>and say, let's put a smile on their face. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're witnessing the front lines. They have four hundred cases

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<v Speaker 1>of corona virus there, and you could see in their

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<v Speaker 1>faces they're shell shocked. They're like, oh my god, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they just wanted something that's said thank you, smile

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<v Speaker 1>on your faith, just anything. And they said, well, how

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<v Speaker 1>come you're here, And I said, look I'm along for

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<v Speaker 1>the ride, just to try to get some credit here

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<v Speaker 1>with my wife. She's the one that's wanted to come here,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, thank you. No one on the streets,

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<v Speaker 1>no one. It's like a ghost town in New Haven,

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<v Speaker 1>Connecticut at Yale, one of the great hospitals in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could just see what they're going through. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go, hey, let's just be cavalier about this.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't be. If you're around it, you see it,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel it. And I'm fortunate that I'm I'm safe

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<v Speaker 1>and my kids are and nobody has contracted this. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel lucky that I'm able to do this every

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<v Speaker 1>single day. So just understand it might not be where

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<v Speaker 1>you are, but it could, and it is affecting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. Maybe not as many people as we thought,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still affecting quite a few people. New York

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<v Speaker 1>City is apocalyptic. You don't even you know, people who've

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<v Speaker 1>been in New York and people who have to live

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<v Speaker 1>in New York and stay in New York and stay

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<v Speaker 1>in their apartment tell me you just look outside and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no life. There's nothing there. It's just you can

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<v Speaker 1>hear echoes when people talk. So it's haunting, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I always caution, let's not put a time frame

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<v Speaker 1>on this. Let's understand exactly what we have in front

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<v Speaker 1>of us here, tack it together, and hopefully we get

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<v Speaker 1>something in our lives that we've come to appreciate, expect

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<v Speaker 1>take for granted, and that is sports back in an arena,

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<v Speaker 1>in a football stadium, all of those things which I

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<v Speaker 1>think we could all use some comfort right now when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to that, all right, eight seven seven three

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<v Speaker 1>d P show email address dp Adwanpatrick dot com, Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>handle a DP show, we'll get to phone calls coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Mclov and you got a poll question for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is an actual poll question, but

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<v Speaker 1>if we put up are you okay having sports without fans?

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<v Speaker 1>How do people respond to that? At this point, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fine with it, but but I don't have an option.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think most fans feel that way? Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>can put it up there, but we don't. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have an option. So it doesn't feel like there's any

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<v Speaker 1>other answer than yeah, I'll take sports because we have

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<v Speaker 1>we have no other choice here. Yeah, another question to

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<v Speaker 1>you said that it won't jump to start the economy

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<v Speaker 1>from like a dollar in sin San Clois. But is

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<v Speaker 1>there like a financial value of lifting the mood of

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<v Speaker 1>the country and putting sports on TV. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes like the stock markets all based on the mood

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<v Speaker 1>of the country anyway, So I feel like lifting the

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<v Speaker 1>mood has a value maybe. So I'm just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>these smaller cities, these college cities, college towns, small businesses,

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<v Speaker 1>people who rely on tailgates and that they supply food

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<v Speaker 1>that you come in, there's takeout, there's atmosphere, Like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the economy I'm talking about. It's the little guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>being crushed here. You know, bigger business they'll survive, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>take a hit, but they'll survive. The smaller guys. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where you go into these You know, you go to

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<v Speaker 1>Lambeau and you know there's certain places you can go

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<v Speaker 1>there and eat. You know, you can go there and drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Like those people, they're the ones that are hurt. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been stung and may not recover. So when you jump

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<v Speaker 1>start an economy and our mood changes and the stock

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<v Speaker 1>market goes up, Okay, but that's not what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>When we're dealing with the economy. Yeah, McLevin, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>on Andy, Sorry. Another question about college sports. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that this will end up getting payers played or

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<v Speaker 1>just change the whole structure of college sports because you

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<v Speaker 1>said they can't go back as regular students. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>any chance that they label them professionals and go back. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Pauli and I talked about this yesterday after the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you just say, look, we're going to treat you

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<v Speaker 1>as college employees, then we pay you minimum wage. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder what the future of the NCAA is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I do I think big picture. I wonder what the

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<v Speaker 1>nc double A is going to be after this year,

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<v Speaker 1>after we get through this pandemic. I don't know, are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to expand A We're going to rip up

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<v Speaker 1>that contract with the final four that ESPN has and

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<v Speaker 1>make it sixteen teams because you have that might be

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<v Speaker 1>the lifeblood for some of these A lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>universities with their secondary sports, they may all go under.

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<v Speaker 1>And it started with since Mattie's saying we're getting rid

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<v Speaker 1>of our soccer program because they were going to save

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<v Speaker 1>close to eight million over the next ten years. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you had Old Dominion canceling their wrestling program. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they opened the door. They opened the door, and

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<v Speaker 1>all bets are off right now. So I just think

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much attached to this, and as much as

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<v Speaker 1>we want to come up with game plans, using caution

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<v Speaker 1>is the smartest thing that we can do. How can

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<v Speaker 1>I ensure safety for these football players when they come back?

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<v Speaker 1>How can I ensure safety for these baseball players when

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<v Speaker 1>they come back? The NBA, if it comes back, fans

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<v Speaker 1>aren't going to be able to go out. I'm of

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<v Speaker 1>the mindset I will not see a game in person,

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<v Speaker 1>probably in the next year. Like I really wonder when

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<v Speaker 1>we could actually go back. When do you feel confident,

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<v Speaker 1>when you feel safe going back? Because as we found

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<v Speaker 1>out with Rudy Gobert, when one guy test positive, he

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<v Speaker 1>brought down an entire league. And you extrapolate that he

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<v Speaker 1>basically brought down sports because now we realize there's something

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<v Speaker 1>really attached to this. Now, it could hit anybody. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be the people who came in contact with him,

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<v Speaker 1>the referees who did a game, they contracted this, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, other players, Donovan Mitchell and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're fans around this, the training step like it, it

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<v Speaker 1>just trickles down there, and that's where trying to jump

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<v Speaker 1>start the economy. I hope we can, and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>sports plays a large role on that, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't see that happening. We'll come up with a pole

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<v Speaker 1>question today. We'll talk about the Bulls documentary. And also

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<v Speaker 1>there was talk yesterday with Odell Beckham Junior, the third

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<v Speaker 1>maybe being traded. It was I'm going to say it

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<v Speaker 1>was more of a I'm hearing or a rumor by

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<v Speaker 1>a sports host a w f an in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I did some work on that and have an update

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<v Speaker 1>on the possibility that Odell Beckham Junior was on the

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<v Speaker 1>trading block to the Minnesota Vikings nineteen after they were

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing well, doing well. I think we have seven

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<v Speaker 1>left on the shelf. Yeah, we have seven left. Why know?

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<v Speaker 1>We have a couple here in the mail room. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Yeah, this is one of the few shirts

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<v Speaker 1>that we've actually gotten people writing in like hey can

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<v Speaker 1>I get one of those? Not just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like fans of the show or whatever, other people that

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<v Speaker 1>are like, hey, can you send me one of those? Also,

0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:49.680
<v Speaker 1>people might be in the industry. It's like people, yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll tell them to order go to dan Patrick dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on special treatment around here, just ask the dan Ets.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I did some research yesterday, did some homework

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw the report. I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 1>was a report, Andy, can you tell me exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>that was presented by a host on wfa N. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was Mark the Lusis said that he

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<v Speaker 1>was hearing that the vikings und we're talking. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was a hearing I'm talking about that Odobal trade. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So you know, when if it's a report,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one thing. But I'm hearing, you know, then I

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<v Speaker 1>sort of go, Okay, I hear a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of things I don't tell you because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just hearing. That doesn't mean that it's happening. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, all right, let me reach out to a

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<v Speaker 1>source and I said, uh, let me see why would

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<v Speaker 1>Obj want to go to the Vikings run oriented, defensive

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<v Speaker 1>minded head coach. And my source said, well, he can

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<v Speaker 1>be the number one wide receiver and a very good

0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:51.080
<v Speaker 1>team offense is run by Kubiak and the staff includes

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<v Speaker 1>his son. They've been together for a while. And I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but Minnesota they need a big time guy. Since trading digs,

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<v Speaker 1>they go from one hard to coach wide receiver to another.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, exactly, like, why is Minnesota wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to bring in Odell Beckham junior when you just had

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<v Speaker 1>Stefan Diggs who wanted to get out of Minnesota. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know Obj is great, I get it, all of

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. I don't want him, and if anything, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Cleveland, I want to see if I can make

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<v Speaker 1>this work with Baker Mayfield, Jarvis Landry. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see if now everybody's got to change the problem I

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<v Speaker 1>have with OBJ is I think Baker Mayfield tried to

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<v Speaker 1>force the ball to him to make him happy. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to OBJ as much as I can,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you force it and you're not looking elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>then it affects the overall performance of the offense. So

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<v Speaker 1>then I got a text this morning from the same

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<v Speaker 1>source and he says, sounds like the Vikings are more

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<v Speaker 1>inclined to draft a wide receiver than make that trade.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, how come and he said, more of

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<v Speaker 1>the same headache. You know, Look, we're hoping for stories

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<v Speaker 1>like this, but in you know, the reality of this

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<v Speaker 1>is Mike Zimmer's a tough minded guy. They're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put up with this. That head coach is not why

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<v Speaker 1>you don't trade for that. Stephan Diggs was already there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Stefan Diggs maybe became a different player. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you want your touches because hey, I had this

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable catch to beat the SEC like I'm something now

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<v Speaker 1>I need to have the ball. I need my touches.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're not looking for a headache. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you would be doing if you trade for OBJ. You're going, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look for another headache here. Now that doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>any sense. I want to see what Baker Mayfield does.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot attached to this season. I think with

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<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield it may not be you know, success or

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<v Speaker 1>bust poring, but you know, we'll get close to that

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<v Speaker 1>if he has another year where he struggles, but he

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<v Speaker 1>has to stop zeroing in on one guy. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the great quarterbacks spread it around. Go back to one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite moments in painful moments, because I was

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<v Speaker 1>a Bengal fan back then, when Joe Montana leads them

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<v Speaker 1>down and they score the touchdown under a minute ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and he throws it to John Taylor because you know

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<v Speaker 1>what they did. They put Jerry Rice as a tight end,

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe knew Jerry was going to confuse them and

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<v Speaker 1>open things up, and John Taylor had single coverage and

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<v Speaker 1>he threw it to John Taylor. One of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>moments in forty nine or history and the greatest wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver of all time was a decoy. That's the interesting

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<v Speaker 1>part of that. Use all of the weapons you have,

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<v Speaker 1>and if Baker Mayfield's going to be great, he has

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to that rookie year where simplify it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't try to be Brett Farve, just make the plays

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<v Speaker 1>that are there in front of you. Because that team

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<v Speaker 1>is so good in so talent I should say, not good,

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<v Speaker 1>but talented. And I think that'll be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens with the Cleveland Browns trading Odell Beckham. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have brought him in the first place, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want somebody to take this out of context.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fascinated watching him, but understand I was fascinated watching

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<v Speaker 1>Jameis Winston. OBJ is an incredible talent. He's an entertainer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like entertainers. I like guys who know what

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<v Speaker 1>they do and how they make a team better. Entertainer, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds so singular and selfish, and that makes me

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<v Speaker 1>nervous here. I know wide receivers or divas, but even

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Rice was a team player. He would come back

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<v Speaker 1>and tell Montana, and Montana says this, Hey, I'm open,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta throw me the ball. Well, the quarterback has

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to say, I'll get it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I had somebody else, you know. And that's where the

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<v Speaker 1>coach comes in and says, look, it doesn't run through you, Odell.

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<v Speaker 1>The offense does not run through you. You compliment the

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<v Speaker 1>offense because it's an entire offense, not just you. And

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<v Speaker 1>I never met a wide receiver. Wasn't open, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Kay Cabot, she covers the Browns does a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>She had this to say about the possibility of trading

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<v Speaker 1>Odell Beckham Junior. I haven't gotten any sense so far

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<v Speaker 1>that there really is anything to it. Now. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that a conversation or a phone call didn't take place.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean somebody didn't try, didn't inquire, But as

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<v Speaker 1>of right now, from everything that I understand, there's just

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<v Speaker 1>nothing there. Yeah, and that doesn't mean something won't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But from what I'm told this morning, you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>source said that more likely to trade. Every team in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft will get a wide receiver. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how deep this draft is from every single one.

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<v Speaker 1>So all thirty two teams the first round they're not

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<v Speaker 1>at all taking okay, yeah, yeah, in the draft they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take They're gonna get a quality wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I think there's forty two they are considered

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<v Speaker 1>quality wide receivers. That's how deep this wide receiving field is.

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<v Speaker 1>That everybody's gonna get a wide You get one, and

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<v Speaker 1>you it'll be like Oprah, you get a wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get a wide receiver. Did we set on

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<v Speaker 1>a pole question? McLevin. I actually kind of want to

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<v Speaker 1>go with a uniform question maybe, Okay, keep it light

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<v Speaker 1>on the pole question. Okay, so the Browns came out

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<v Speaker 1>with a new uniform. It's kind of old school. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask you to put your eighteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>shoes on your recruit. Would you go with an old

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>school uniform or a new school uniform? New school like

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<v Speaker 1>our friends in Oregon Oregon, Baylor, Yeah, Likenville, Yeah, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who changes up every every week. Penn State, Michigan with

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<v Speaker 1>the old school. I as much as I hated Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>and growing up, I'd still think Michigan's got one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great uniforms in all of sports. I do Ohio

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>State has been varying there as they change it up

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit with their helmets jerseys there. But yeah,

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and Penn States it's sharp. But if I'm an eighteen

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>year old, yeah, I didn't like Penn States uniform back then. Yes, boy, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I was raised Irish Catholic south Side Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no choice but to be a Notre Dame fan. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I can remember, maybe eight or nine years old, I

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<v Speaker 1>watched a Michigan football game and that's probably the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I saw them and watched them. I was like,

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I saw those helmets and the look and Anthony Carter

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.159
<v Speaker 1>and the gold pants and May's pants, excuse me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I like that, and I Fritzy did

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the same thing with the broncos. I know it's different, question, Yeah,

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 1>like I love the old school ones. I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the kids may not understand or appreciate a tradition,

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>but if you've got a chance to play for a

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 1>team that's been around one hundred fifty years or whatever

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:58.919
<v Speaker 1>and everything is pretty much stayed the same, I'd want

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<v Speaker 1>to wear one of those with the Yeah, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that it's marketing, and you know, because I don't like

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean I mean that's not I'm not their

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>target audience. If you've got an eighteen year old or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two year old, they're like, yeah, it looks pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to be buying into what I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up with and say, yeah, that looks awesome, that looks classic.

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get I mean, that's why the Rams took

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<v Speaker 1>a chance on their uniforms. It's not for me because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go what are you doing? I think a

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Gabriel Jack snow like, what are you doing to me?

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to, you know, then we become to

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>get off my lawn guy. When it comes to uniform,

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>they're not marketing for me because I haven't bought a

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>jersey in since Archie Manning with the Saints. Is the

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 1>last time I think I bought a jersey. That's a

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>great jersey, Yeah it is. It was. Now I have

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of jerseys in here, but I haven't bought

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:56.400
<v Speaker 1>any jerseys in a long long time. You might think

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>that this is the Michael Jordan documentary. It's the Bulls

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>documentary and it will start airing on Sunday. Michael. Michael

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:06.919
<v Speaker 1>has already come out and had that preemptive strike to

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 1>basically say when you watch this, ah, you're probably not

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna like who I am, but that's who. So he

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>was on Good Morning America with Robin Roberts, and that

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>was a whole different Michael Jordan because he was emotional

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:24.199
<v Speaker 1>and he was funny. And I don't know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>like looking at yourself when you're younger, I think I

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>think Michael is this is what Mike had to do

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to become Michael Jordan. He pushed you, He pushed himself.

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>But as he says in the documentary, I didn't ask

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>you to do anything that I wouldn't do. He wanted

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 1>to push you. He picked on people. He also talked

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>about Jerry Krause, who was one of the architects of

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the Bulls back then told the head coach Phil Jackson

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>that Phil was not be not going to be coming back,

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 1>hence the Last Dance. This was a courtesy of Good

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Morning America at the beginning of the season. It basically

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>started when Jerry Kraut told Phil that, you know, he

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>can go eighty two and O and he would never

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>get the chance to come back. And you know, knowing

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>that I was, I married myself to him, you know obviously,

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and if he wasn't going to be a coach, then

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously I wasn't going to play. So Phil

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 1>started off the year by saying, this is the last dance,

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and and we played it that way, you know, so

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>mentally it just kind of it tugged at you throughout

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the course of the year, you know, but that this

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>had to come to an end. But it also centered

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.959
<v Speaker 1>our focus to making sure we end it right. So

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that's Michael Jordan. That was courtesy of a Good Morning America.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine you have a team that's still in its prime.

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>You have Jordan, you have Pippin, you have Rodman, and

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you why not max this out one more year? You're

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>going to win another championship. Here, all you're doing is

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>writing a check, like how much is that? Is it

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>fifty million dollars that you're going to spend thirty million

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 1>to Mike. But you're making money, You're making tons of money,

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>and an ego getting in the way is truly amazing.

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>But ego gets in the way of dynasties all the time.

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Go back to Shack and Kobe. Ego got in the

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>way the greatest band of all time, the Beatles. Ego

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>got in the way. You don't want to be around

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>this person. You can do it without this person. Hey,

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll show you I built this, I can build another one.

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Amazing and it's something that you it's hard to quantify

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>that when you when you see somebody their ego, like

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>what is that ego and what's it mean? You know,

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>you can say magic and his ego, how he played

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 1>he was selfless, you know, Bird his ego different than

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan's ego. Hey, I don't want to throw it

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to you because I could. I'm better than you, So

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>why would I throw it to you? Because I should

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>be the one taking the shot like just and then

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>two of the biggest shots in Bull's history were by

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>John Paxon and Steve Kerr. It's ego. It's about winning?

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Is it winning together? Is it winning in spite? You

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>want to show that you can do it. You know,

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Kobe wanted to, you know, disassemble and say I can

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>do it without Shack. Shack wanted to prove that he

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>could do it without Kobe in Miami, Phil Jackson, Oh

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't think I can. You don't want me here

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. I'll go to La I'll do it again.

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>But ego, and you know, you try to put that

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>in the proper perspective and it's hard to do because

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you're going, wait, what, why do you have a problem

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>with him? Why don't you want Donovan McNabb and Tarall

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Owens problem there? Teammates problem went to war together in

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl. Ego you know, was the ego of

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady's or ego Bill Belichick? How involved. Was that

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>with the Patriots, Tom's ego saying, I don't want Jimmy

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Garoppolo around him. Trade him. Robert Kraft trades him. The

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>ego Bill Belichick saying, all right, all right, you got

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>what you wanted. Now let me see what you can

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>do when you go someplace else. And I'm coaching the

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Patriots ego. Yeah, the ninety seven ninety eight Bolls with

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Pippin, Robin all that Crewker, they're sixty nine and

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, we're sixty two and twenty. And of course

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>they won the NBA finals. Do you know the roster

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>of the team the next year that won thirteen games? Uh?

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Well that was Tim Floyd's team. Yeah, Tony Cook coach

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>was the holdover. Didn't they have a guy out of

0:31:54.720 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Iowa State? Oh, Marcus Fiser, the Marcus Spiser era. That

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>was one year later because I got a high draft

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>pick that had Brent Berry, Ron Harper, Randy Brown, Dicky Simpkins,

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Mark Bryant, Andrew Lang, Cornell, David those are the starting

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>like like Grahamville Waiters wasn't on the rosters. Waiters now

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>he was not Eddie Curry area, but that was Tyson Chandler.

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Like Tyson Chandler has carved out an unbelievable career, but

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>not at first. Remember when you had those those high

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>school guys and they took both of those guys and

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Curry. Do I still have the Eddie Curry Dallas

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Mavericks jersey around here? It's in the bathroom. It's Mark

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Huban sent it to us that it's the largest jersey

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the Mavericks ever made, and he used I don't I

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>think he used it for four games. It could be

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a prom dress. It's so long, it could be a formal.

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>That is a huge, huge uniform. All right, we'll come back.

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about the best uniforms and uh

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>an updated list here. Um. Paul Lucas is going to

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>join us. He does a uniwatch and he actually helps

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>rank the best uniforms that we have in sports. I

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>was surprised at USA today put out a list the

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>number one uniform in the NFL. We'll see if the

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Browns are rising on that with their new uniform. What

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>about the Buccaneers. We'll talk to him coming up next

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:20.719
<v Speaker 1>and our play of the day after this. Thanks for

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:23.200
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0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.040
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0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:32.800
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0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.040
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0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>The Dan Patrick Show. The documentary coming up at the

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>top of the hour. We saw where the Cleveland Browns

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<v Speaker 1>new uniforms. We also have the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Falcons. Paul Lucas actually does this for a living.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks at uniforms. He's the founder and editor of

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>uniwatch dot com. What do you think of the Cleveland

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Browns new edition, Dan, I think it's a great example

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>of moving forward by going backward. They basically went back

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>to their classic look, which they never really should have

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>gone away from. When you look at these new uniforms,

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you think this is what the Cleveland Browns are supposed

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>to look like. And it's sort of a question of

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>how did they get it so disastrously wrong five years

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 1>ago with the set that they're now moving away from.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>How did the Rams get to where they are now?

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Where you have one of their legends, Eric Dickerson, who

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 1>works for the Rams railing against the Rams with their

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>new logo. Here. You know, the Rams have done something

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>that it's a little uncommon, and I think in a

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 1>way is a little unfair to the fan base, and

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>that is, instead of unveiling their entire new identity, meaning logos, uniforms,

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the works, they just did the logos and they're going

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.280
<v Speaker 1>to do the uniforms sometime in May after the draft.

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's not clear. They haven't said if that's because

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>the uniforms aren't ready yet or they just are trying

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 1>to sort of draw out the suspense, but it really

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>isn't It doesn't disservice to the fan base, and I

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>think a disservice to your own marketing program when you

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>release logos without the full context, because it's hard, you know,

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>for for an NFL team, a logo could be appearing

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>on your helmet or not, and you know, with the Rams,

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.720
<v Speaker 1>probably not because they're probably going to keep Ram horns

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>on the helmet, and you really need to see the

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>context of these logos. And so, yeah, you have fans

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and you have ex players like Eric Dickerson saying we

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>don't like these logos, but really what matters is the

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>uniform and that that's, you know, the most primary thing,

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>especially for a team like the Rams, which as I said,

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>are not going to almost certainly not going to wear

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 1>their logo on their helmet, So I think, and we're

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to wait and see where that goes with

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the Rams. But I don't think they've done themselves or

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 1>their fan base any favors by doing this two part unvailing. Well,

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>what is the target demo for these new uniforms? I mean,

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the reason why I bring it up is the Rams

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>aren't marketing to me, The Browns aren't marketing to me,

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 1>The Atlanta Falcons aren't marketing to my age group. So

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>so what if I don't like it. I'm not the

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>one buying these jerseys unless I'm buying it for my

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:02.240
<v Speaker 1>son or grandson, and you know, then they're still getting

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>their money out of there. So if you were going

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to say, what's the sweet spot for you know, marketing

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>these uniforms, what would it be? Well, I think it

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>depends on what you think the function of the uniform is.

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>You're suggesting that it basically is just a piece of merchandise,

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's certainly part of it, but it's also the

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>thing we see when we watch a game every Sunday,

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's what we you know, look at and connect

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>with when we when we turn on the TV. And

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, the famous Jerry Seinfeld line that we're all

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 1>rooting for laundry is largely true. The players come and go,

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 1>they get traded, they retire, but we keep rooting for

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>that uniform no matter which player is wearing it. And

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 1>that's an important thing as well. So while you could

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>say that you know only the whatever the eighteen to

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>thirty four year old demographic is what you know, who

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>buys the jerseys, but they are marketing to you. They

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>are marketing, you know, to me or my dad or whoever,

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>because those are fans as well, and those are the

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>people you want to connect with your you know, with

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>your team and having an emotional attachment. But I won't.

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 1>I won't turn my team off or pick another team

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.359
<v Speaker 1>because they have a crappy union form. No, but you

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>may feel like a little warmer and fuzzier about it,

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and that can that can that can translate to other things.

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at teams like the Packers or

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, or you know, for the Rams, for that man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Rams fans, And I can tell you because

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<v Speaker 1>I hear from a lot of them. Rams fans feel

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<v Speaker 1>really strongly about that helmet with the you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>the curly ramhorns on it, and and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, irrestio and think of the NFL. We

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<v Speaker 1>feel really strongly about NFL helmets, right, Like what do

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<v Speaker 1>you have in your studio or TV studios they have

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<v Speaker 1>the helmets of the two teams that are playing, because

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<v Speaker 1>that is almost a de facto logo for an NFL

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<v Speaker 1>team is its helmet. And we don't buy helmets, helmets

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<v Speaker 1>or not merchandise. I mean, you may buy a sticker

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<v Speaker 1>that shows a helmet or you know a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a mini helmet or something like that, but in general,

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<v Speaker 1>the helmet is not a major piece of merchandise. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a really important piece, arguably the cornerstone of any

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<v Speaker 1>team's branding visual branding program. And so I do think

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<v Speaker 1>it goes beyond just the merchandise sales. All right, final

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<v Speaker 1>minute here, if you ran the Buccaneers, what would you

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<v Speaker 1>do with the uniforms? Personally, I go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>creamsicles and bring back Bucko Brusa because I have a

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<v Speaker 1>soft spot for that, but I certainly think they, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>similar to the Browns, they rejected a sort of Nike

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<v Speaker 1>approach of of let's go newfangled, let's kind of break

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<v Speaker 1>the mold, let's push the envelope, and let's leave people

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<v Speaker 1>scratching their heads thinking, you know, what the hell are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing there? And let's go back to basics. And

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<v Speaker 1>so they are now going back to their their classic

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl era uniform, and again, I think that's an improvement,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's it's, you know, a step backwards on

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<v Speaker 1>the timeline, but I think it's a step upwards in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of design quality. Great to talk to you again, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining us. Always a pleasure. Damn thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>having Paul lucas founder and editor of unwatch dot com USA. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you the top ten here. These

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<v Speaker 1>are their favorite jerseys. Philadelphia Eagles come in at number ten,

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<v Speaker 1>tenth best uniform in the NFL. Number nine the Minnesota Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like the Vikings. I think I think in

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<v Speaker 1>person I like it better. I think it's underrated. The

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys are at eight. I love that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I hated the Cowboys growing up, but I love the uniform.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the star. Okay, number seven is gonna maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it'll surprise you. The Indianapolis colts it I like the horseshoe,

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<v Speaker 1>I like the color. I'm surprised they're that high. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me see number six the La Rams. I'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>the top five, coming up top, the next down or

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<v Speaker 1>tease one hour in the books from The Dan Patrick Show.