Speaker 1: It's eleven fifty eight pm back in Roswell, New Mexico,
Speaker 1: and you're listening to Night Call. Hello, and welcome tonight Call,
Speaker 1: a call in show for our dystopian reality. I'm Emily Oshida.
Speaker 1: I am in Charlotte, North Carolina, and with me on
Speaker 1: the other line are Molly Lambert and Teslaly and shere
Speaker 1: in l A. Hello, Hi, guys. This is the Night
Speaker 1: Call Finale spectacular. We have a lot of stuff planned
Speaker 1: for this episode, a lot of calls, more calls than ever. Um.
Speaker 1: It's We've got so much feedback from you guys after
Speaker 1: we announced that we were ending the show, and it,
Speaker 1: you know, really moved all of us. We were very
Speaker 1: grateful to all of the calls, all the emails we
Speaker 1: got from everybody, and so this episode is dedicated to y'all.
Speaker 1: We love you guys, and we're this has been such
Speaker 1: an adventure and such your ride to do this podcast,
Speaker 1: and so we want to send it off into the
Speaker 1: night proper. How you guys feeling, Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: think it was such a great idea to do a
Speaker 1: call in show, and I think Emily, that was maybe
Speaker 1: your idea. I don't know if I would ever want
Speaker 1: to do a podcast that didn't have call ins, because
Speaker 1: one of the coolest things about this show has been
Speaker 1: that we have gotten to know so many people, Like
Speaker 1: we got calls from all over the globe, we got
Speaker 1: serialized ghost stories, true ghost stories, which we'll talk more
Speaker 1: about later. And I just think we have a really
Speaker 1: amazing group of listeners who have supported this show and
Speaker 1: it's it's really fun to have gotten to know them
Speaker 1: and we will take you with us. Yeah, this show
Speaker 1: has been like a magnet for like such a specific
Speaker 1: kind of weirdo, a tune to our our collective frequencies
Speaker 1: that the people that we've heard from, the people that
Speaker 1: we've met at live events, like all of the above
Speaker 1: has just been I don't know, it's it feels like
Speaker 1: a very special and unique little thing that happened, and
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm very grateful that it happened. It
Speaker 1: was almost three years three years in February, Yeah, our
Speaker 1: first episode. I have to scroll the way back in
Speaker 1: my iTunes. H Yeah, February was the debut night call episode.
Speaker 1: So yeah, where did the time go? I mean, especially
Speaker 1: in the last few months, like it could have been
Speaker 1: five years. Who knows. I feel like we've just been
Speaker 1: doing a podcast for like just an infinite amount of time,
Speaker 1: and then sometimes the frequency tunes in. There was always
Speaker 1: a podcast there. Um. Yeah, So we are going to
Speaker 1: play a lot of your calls this week, and we'll
Speaker 1: still take some of your questions. We're still answering questions
Speaker 1: on here. Um. So yeah, do you guys wanna do
Speaker 1: you guys want to open up the voicemail bag? Let's
Speaker 1: do it. Let's do it, high ladies, um, it's talent.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to call and say congratulations on a
Speaker 1: great run. I am going to miss the podcast very
Speaker 1: very much, but I know that you know it's happening.
Speaker 1: This is happening for a reason, and I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to um see whatever you are all up to it next.
Speaker 1: And I do have a question about an important topic
Speaker 1: to me, UM that I need y'all's perspective on, which
Speaker 1: is what show is better, Cheers or Frasier, because I
Speaker 1: watched all of Cheers from like March two. I don't
Speaker 1: really know when I finished, maybe like Junior July um
Speaker 1: earlier this year, and I haven't really been able to
Speaker 1: get into Fraser in the same way. Obviously, there are
Speaker 1: quite different shows, even if one is you know, a
Speaker 1: spinoff of the other. And so I wanted to know, Um,
Speaker 1: for your money, which is better and why? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: about it. So UM, take good care and thank you
Speaker 1: for the fun fun times by the question for the question, honestly,
Speaker 1: I know, I feel like maybe we've been always tiptoeing
Speaker 1: around this question because we're too cowardly to answer it. Um.
Speaker 1: I think Cheers is better. Um, no question, Cheers is
Speaker 1: a better show and more beloved for a reason. I
Speaker 1: don't think it would be possible for a spinoff to
Speaker 1: surpass the original, although if anyone can think of any
Speaker 1: counter examples, please let us know. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of spinoffs that are like not really known as spinoffs,
Speaker 1: that have their own life but like, and I feel
Speaker 1: like Frasier is on on the cusp of that, Like
Speaker 1: it's almost completely broken off from the host being even
Speaker 1: looking at the Happy Days universe, like, we can all
Speaker 1: agree that Happy Days is a more important show than
Speaker 1: Mork and Mindy, Laverne and Shirley. They're like five other
Speaker 1: Happy Days spinoff Joony loves Chacy, Mork and Mindy was
Speaker 1: a Happy Days spinoff? Yes, really, yes, there's like an
Speaker 1: episode where an alien comes to Happy Days, and it's
Speaker 1: more what people were doing a lot of drugs in
Speaker 1: I watched The Ship out of Work and Mindy everybody Mindy. Actually,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, maybe more than Mindy is more beloved
Speaker 1: than it's certainly beloved by the people it's beloved among. Ye. Anyway,
Speaker 1: getting back to my point, I think Cheers is better
Speaker 1: and and so you think it's better purely by the
Speaker 1: rule of the original can never be surpassed by a
Speaker 1: spin off or what are the quality specifically that you
Speaker 1: think make it. I mean, I think Cheers is probably
Speaker 1: just the best sitcom of all time. It's like very funny,
Speaker 1: it's very dark. Sometimes it's very emotional. It's like before
Speaker 1: sitcoms turned into like there's a hug and a lesson
Speaker 1: at the end. Always it's like, because I didn't before
Speaker 1: I saw it Cheers, I was like, why would anybody
Speaker 1: watch a show about a bunch of alcoholics hanging out
Speaker 1: in a bar? That sounds really depressing? And then I
Speaker 1: lived on the East Coast and understood why people hang
Speaker 1: out in bars. But also I watched Cheers almost like,
Speaker 1: oh it knows it's depressing. It's a show about broken people,
Speaker 1: and that's what makes it great. It's it's one of
Speaker 1: those ones that you understand it more deeply, uh as
Speaker 1: you get older, or it has more pathos as you
Speaker 1: get older, because before it's just like grown ups hanging
Speaker 1: out at a bar, which is a gross It seems
Speaker 1: like fun. You could be friends with the mailman, that's right.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think Fraser is also a good show
Speaker 1: on its own terms. And I think we all agree
Speaker 1: that it's like more of a nostalgia thing necessarily than
Speaker 1: that it's the greatest show of all time. Oh I
Speaker 1: would disagree with that. I have a lot of nostalgia
Speaker 1: for it. But I think in every revisit that I
Speaker 1: do of Frasier, I'm impressed with how technically great it is. Okay, Fraser,
Speaker 1: I mean I I'm just reminded of this treat that
Speaker 1: Hello Cullen on Twitter, but he did the Street is.
Speaker 1: I am a psychiatrist. I moved from Boston, where I
Speaker 1: went to a bar every day, to Seattle, where I
Speaker 1: don't go to no bars. I'm on the radio now,
Speaker 1: even though I never did that before. How did I
Speaker 1: get this job? How did I even hear about it um,
Speaker 1: he doesn't go to a bar because he goes to
Speaker 1: Cafe Nervosa. It's clearly a one to one swap, and
Speaker 1: he like joined a wine club instead. He like, he
Speaker 1: doesn't go to a dirty, you know, basement bar, and
Speaker 1: he grew up more. Yeah, grew up, Emily. Would you
Speaker 1: argue that it's that Frasier is better? I so better
Speaker 1: is a hard thing to say. I think, well, there's
Speaker 1: a lot. I think there's a bit more of Cheers
Speaker 1: and there is a Frasier, and Cheers is just a
Speaker 1: richer ensemble, like Cheers is more like there's truly something
Speaker 1: for everybody in it, which I think is a really
Speaker 1: good argument to make. It if not the best to
Speaker 1: come of all time, at least a better to comm
Speaker 1: than Fraser, Frasier is one note that is just like
Speaker 1: really extremely well done and extremely itself and commits to
Speaker 1: this bit and actually find like gets a lot of
Speaker 1: mileage out of which like a lot of shows would
Speaker 1: only get like a season out of, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's fancy pants and more fancy pants versus cricket, cop
Speaker 1: Dad and a dog. But I think, like I guess
Speaker 1: in terms of like, I just think that Cheers could
Speaker 1: never be replicated again. And I just think that Fraser
Speaker 1: is something that is like the best version of something
Speaker 1: that I wish happened more often, you know, And in sitcoms,
Speaker 1: Fraser is like opera, yes, and that's why I love it. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's just so silly. Yeah, And I love all the
Speaker 1: like mistaken door knocking forest episodes at the ski Lodge.
Speaker 1: It's very it hits those those nets. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: grew up watching like Marx Brothers movies and stuff when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. My mom was early into Mark's Brothers,
Speaker 1: so we would like rent the vhs is from the library,
Speaker 1: and so like getting into Frasier, which I also probably
Speaker 1: was into at the same time, it just felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, one led to the other and it's all
Speaker 1: kind of borderline slapstick but still really verbally driven. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I love Frasier a lot. I won't hesitate
Speaker 1: to say it's better than Cheers, but I think I've
Speaker 1: probably watched it more and that for whatever that story.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, fine, I'm going to say it's better
Speaker 1: than Cheers just to make it interesting. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: take a stand. So that task has to be the
Speaker 1: tiebreaker her favorite position to take. Oh god, um, here's
Speaker 1: my my take on this is that Cheers is a
Speaker 1: gumbo and Frasier is a consummate, and you can't ever choose.
Speaker 1: You can't ever choose which is better because they belong
Speaker 1: to entirely different moods and stages life. Good answer, I
Speaker 1: thank you, diplomatic. Diplomatic as ever, I think like in general,
Speaker 1: I go back to Cheers more because it has more
Speaker 1: texture and more depth. But I agree with Emily that
Speaker 1: Frasier is kind of like there there is something kind
Speaker 1: of like operatic or whatever it's. It does it's things
Speaker 1: so well, and it exceeds your expectations if your expectations
Speaker 1: are that it will kind of like start to go
Speaker 1: soft or whatever. It's like it doesn't ever disappoint in
Speaker 1: the way that when I first started watching Frasier, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to be so sick of all
Speaker 1: of these people. So I was kind of amazed. I
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, they really hooked me. And it's like
Speaker 1: it's an ambient vibe like it you know, it puts
Speaker 1: you in a kind of alters your your state of
Speaker 1: mind a little bit. I've been watching some star Trek
Speaker 1: Next Generation with my mom out here, and it's like
Speaker 1: I realized how much they're very similar design vibes too.
Speaker 1: But the bridge of the enterprise, like the whole enterprise
Speaker 1: and and Fisher's apartment are like so embedded in my
Speaker 1: brain is just like a place I want to be mentally. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was watching Girlfriends because it came on Netflix finally,
Speaker 1: Um and Girlfriends. It's like so similar a Frasier in
Speaker 1: many ways. Um, and it's produced by Kelsey Grammar, which
Speaker 1: I had forgotten except then he comes in an episode
Speaker 1: as himself. Jones was like, Wow, it's TV's Kelsey Grammar. Um,
Speaker 1: but Jones house in Girlfriends that they spend all of
Speaker 1: the time in the show in because it's like a
Speaker 1: beautiful craftsman house in Pasadena that is owned by like
Speaker 1: a twenty eight year old lawyer or whatever. Um in
Speaker 1: wonderful sitcom logic. Uh, it reminds me so much of
Speaker 1: Frasier's apartment. And then somebody was like, oh, well, they're
Speaker 1: set designed by the same person. The person who did
Speaker 1: the set design on Fraser also did the set design
Speaker 1: on Girlfriends. And Girlfriends has a lot of also, just
Speaker 1: like dinner Party Forest and stuff and slapstick. So that's
Speaker 1: my other recommendation if you like Cheers and Fraser Watch Girlfriends. Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of our favorite media h hobby horses of the eighties,
Speaker 1: we also have a night email from Batia, who writes
Speaker 1: to us, I can tell how much I'll miss the
Speaker 1: podcast by the fact that, upon learning the following bit
Speaker 1: of Big Chill trivia, y'all were the first people who
Speaker 1: came to mind as the correct audience for it. So
Speaker 1: before it's too late, here goes Lawrence Kasdin and Kathy
Speaker 1: guys White have been friends going back to their time
Speaker 1: together in Michigan, and she would regularly include references to
Speaker 1: his movies and Kathy comics. So who in the Big
Speaker 1: Chill is Kathy? It's got to be Meg, right. And
Speaker 1: two is it too much of a stretch to say
Speaker 1: that there's some crossover between the two, something about the
Speaker 1: cognitive dissonance with regard to the adulthood you expected and
Speaker 1: the one you have. This is completely new information to me,
Speaker 1: So thank you, Batia. Yeah what, Yeah, this blew my mind.
Speaker 1: I'm very surprised at this. This is also it's totally
Speaker 1: like a college paper that one of us would have written, um,
Speaker 1: right in this connecting will right, it would have been
Speaker 1: like bourgeois affectations of baby boomers and like ac, yeah,
Speaker 1: did you see a friend of the pot. Amy Nicholson
Speaker 1: got this shirt that like, Kathy guy's wife has been
Speaker 1: selling the dead stock of Kathy merchandise from her personal website,
Speaker 1: which I tried to find. I need to text Amy
Speaker 1: and find out where exactly this this is. But um,
Speaker 1: these incredible vintage Kathy's shirts. She's still around the guys.
Speaker 1: Why is an amazing person. So it totally made sense
Speaker 1: to me that well, it's also interesting she and Laurence
Speaker 1: Cason are like these people who yeah, they also like
Speaker 1: they made their artistic hobby into their career and made
Speaker 1: it like a profitable, real career. They are the big chill.
Speaker 1: I watched a documentary for Grantland about comic strip people,
Speaker 1: and she was featured in it, and I just found
Speaker 1: out that Kathy was like a very pioneering comic strip
Speaker 1: Like there were not a lot of comic strips written
Speaker 1: by women. It was the Murphy Brown of the Sunday,
Speaker 1: It truly was. And also I learned from the documentary
Speaker 1: that she is like very skinny and pretty in real life,
Speaker 1: and the comic is all like her projection of her
Speaker 1: insecure self. Um, it seemed like she definitely struggled with
Speaker 1: some eating issues, all stuff that you can get from
Speaker 1: the comic. But you're like, oh, there's like a real
Speaker 1: person in this comic who's very interesting and uh would
Speaker 1: totally be a character in The Big Chill. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: she's um she was hot, Uh like very she looks
Speaker 1: like she could just like walk into the kitchen and
Speaker 1: Big Chill. She doesn't look like Kathy is look her up.
Speaker 1: She looks like like the ultimate seventies woman in who's
Speaker 1: totally like would be in The Big Chill. Um. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not surprised that she and Lawrence
Speaker 1: Castin had a you know, a close friendship lived in
Speaker 1: the co op together. Also, she's just like peak boomer.
Speaker 1: She was born in nineteen fifty September five, nineteen fifty.
Speaker 1: She's a virgo. Um. Yeah, it's just interesting because like
Speaker 1: Kathy is this comic that people used to make fun
Speaker 1: of women or it became just sort of like all
Speaker 1: the women yeah dieting. But watching this documentary, you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: none of this stuff had been in a comic before.
Speaker 1: It was very groundbreaking at the time, and just like
Speaker 1: a lot of men's underground comics are about putting all
Speaker 1: of your weird it and sexual neurosis into a comic,
Speaker 1: and when you see like a woman do it, it
Speaker 1: can be really uncomfortable in the case of Kathy, because
Speaker 1: you're like, Kathy, just love yourself, Kathy, we love you. What.
Speaker 1: Thank you Batia for the email. Thanks for also bringing
Speaker 1: Big Chill into our final episode because we couldn't get
Speaker 1: through this finale. So who do you think Kathy is
Speaker 1: in The Big Chill? No, this stumps me. Somebody, she said,
Speaker 1: Meg obviously. Do you think she's Meg? Is that Mary
Speaker 1: kay Place? That's that's what I also, I was like,
Speaker 1: they all in my mind, they have no names anymore
Speaker 1: in The Big Chill. Their names are their actor. All right,
Speaker 1: who is she? I think she might be Glenn Close's character. No,
Speaker 1: I think she's closer to Mary kay Place. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: she needs to have it all. She's a cool lady, alight.
Speaker 1: She's more neurotic, I think maybe, but they're all neurotic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she's where's it on the outside a little more?
Speaker 1: I don't know. She'd be the one who's married to
Speaker 1: Robert or whatever his name is. But now I wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, like like as you were saying, like, you know,
Speaker 1: Kathy does not give off the vibe that you would
Speaker 1: expect the creator of Kathy to give off. And I wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, I was picturing that Onion article that's like
Speaker 1: Gene whatever. It's like a column by a woman named
Speaker 1: Jean that was always on the Onion, and she seems
Speaker 1: like a stock photo, but it looked that is what
Speaker 1: I picture Kathy looking like. So yeah, then she looks
Speaker 1: like you know, Jill Clayburgh, and you're like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is complicated, right, Yeah, like Lawrence Cosden's impression of her
Speaker 1: and how he would like quote unquote write her into
Speaker 1: a movie might be different than how she would right herself.
Speaker 1: Or probably it's definitely different than how she would write herself. So, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: Mary kay place, I'll go with that because I've already
Speaker 1: revealed how little of Kathy I know absorbed. No, Kathy
Speaker 1: rolled right off my back. It was just it was
Speaker 1: just there for her. Yeah, But legacies, so let's open
Speaker 1: up the voicemailbox again. Let's do it. Hi. My name
Speaker 1: is Dan Uh. Live outside of Chicago. Longtime fan. Going
Speaker 1: back to the girls in Hoodies days. UM really started
Speaker 1: to hear the show is ending, UM, and I meant
Speaker 1: to call you. Uh. Months ago, I went to summer
Speaker 1: camp with Whitley Streeber's son. It was a performing arts
Speaker 1: camp and upstate New York called Long Lag. I unfortunately
Speaker 1: can't remember his name. It was the summer after eighth
Speaker 1: grade UM when I went there, and we were in
Speaker 1: a performance of Oklahoma together. He was curly and I
Speaker 1: was Judd, which meant that we du edit poor Judd
Speaker 1: is Dead together. So that was an experience. UM. I
Speaker 1: didn't necessary like I think. I think I was familiar
Speaker 1: with communion at the time, and I remember some of
Speaker 1: the other campers UM referencing who he was and who
Speaker 1: his father was, UM, and they made it pretty clear
Speaker 1: that he didn't necessarily want to talk about that, so
Speaker 1: I never brought it up to him. He was a
Speaker 1: really good guy, really nice guy. UM, But I thought
Speaker 1: you'd get a kick out of hearing that. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: I was in Oklahoma UM with Whitley Strieber's son. Uh,
Speaker 1: This is back in like nineteen summer and ninety three,
Speaker 1: I think, so I'm dating myself anyway, I thought you'd
Speaker 1: like to hear that story again. Really started to hear
Speaker 1: that the pot is ending, um, and I hope to
Speaker 1: see all of the wonderful things that you all go
Speaker 1: on to do in the future. Take care. This is
Speaker 1: Patrick and it's about thirty Michigan. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: give a call bease. Been of same you guys since
Speaker 1: the jone Quickly episode of Behind the Bastards. It's just,
Speaker 1: you know, sad to see they come to end, but
Speaker 1: I am hopeful that I'll hear from you guys again.
Speaker 1: I guess the only thing else I have to say
Speaker 1: is I wish you guys would have talked about cryptids. Uh.
Speaker 1: Living in the Midwest, it's definitely one of those things
Speaker 1: that you know, there's hundreds of roads that you don't
Speaker 1: go down because there's some type of X murder or
Speaker 1: my personal favorite as the dog Man of Michigan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope for the best for all you guys, and
Speaker 1: I'll see in the future. Ahem, ahem. We have talked
Speaker 1: so much about cryptids that you you must peruse our
Speaker 1: archive I personally, I think we all agreed that maybe
Speaker 1: the most cryptic heavy episode was when we had Dan
Speaker 1: Hernandez on the podcast. He had some really good insider
Speaker 1: cryptid knowledge because his dad is a crypto zoologist who
Speaker 1: went on a big adventure to try and find cryptids.
Speaker 1: That was then wasn't it like derailed by a hurricane
Speaker 1: or something? His plans were thwarted. Yeah, they couldn't take
Speaker 1: the boat out, which I recommend that. But also cryptids
Speaker 1: have been on my mind recently because I get these
Speaker 1: like news local news emails and there's this one person
Speaker 1: who lives in my neighborhood who, uh like every few
Speaker 1: weeks sends out the same like email that basically is
Speaker 1: asking if anyone has seen big Foot in Griffith Park.
Speaker 1: And he keeps describing a night five years ago where
Speaker 1: he swears he saw big Foot. And of course this
Speaker 1: starts happening right when we were taking a break and
Speaker 1: now we're ending the show, and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is a local mystery I could solve on night Call. God,
Speaker 1: we really we haven't ruled out the possibility of coming
Speaker 1: back for some night Calls Super specials, Cryptic super special
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do some kind of one off mystery solving
Speaker 1: you can get on a case a private detect of agency.
Speaker 1: I know Tess is going to start researching this anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: as as I do. Yeah, maybe this is just your
Speaker 1: next show. Probably. Well, the stay at home order is
Speaker 1: kind of like destroying my plans to you can still
Speaker 1: go to the park. Well, it's so confusing the stay
Speaker 1: at home orders in l A. It's like you can't
Speaker 1: leave your house unless you're going to the mall. And
Speaker 1: if you're at the mall, you can walk, But if
Speaker 1: you're at your house, you can't leave your house on foot,
Speaker 1: bike or bike car unless you need to go shopping
Speaker 1: at a store. Alyssa walker in front of the pod,
Speaker 1: had a good tweet where she was like, I can't
Speaker 1: see my niece and nephew at the playground, so I'm
Speaker 1: going to meet them at a tattoo parlor exactly. Um,
Speaker 1: but this just also sounds like Under the Silver Lake, Yes,
Speaker 1: my favorite film of all time. Yes, um, I'm looking
Speaker 1: now that. So if you go back, this is just
Speaker 1: you know, uh news you can use. I think it's
Speaker 1: listed as uh it's on seventy three on iTunes. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that number means honestly, because it counts
Speaker 1: down from the most recent too now, but it's from
Speaker 1: six nineteen. If you love the crib Cycle with Dan Hernandez,
Speaker 1: there's so much cryptic talk in there, and I'm there
Speaker 1: are so many other ones too. I mean, is that
Speaker 1: the one where we talked about the um? What's it
Speaker 1: called this? The squid? What do they sunk? The squawk?
Speaker 1: Was that squawk talk? I think Squank made it. We've
Speaker 1: talked about the Squawk a few times over the years.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for only realizing, uh, the very end of
Speaker 1: the podcast that a good thing to do is to
Speaker 1: put the topics and the title of the episodes so
Speaker 1: that people can find it UM. But yeah, they're in
Speaker 1: the descriptions generally, and we definitely talked about cryptids a
Speaker 1: time or two. So yeah, if, yeah, if you want
Speaker 1: to go back and rediscover it, you know, I think
Speaker 1: you'll be happy. I think you'll be happy. Patrick. I
Speaker 1: can't remember if it was when we I think Molly
Speaker 1: and I were on Creature Feature podcast with Katie Golden. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we talked about cryptids there as well. We
Speaker 1: also Colin Dicky on for an entire Sasquatch episode. There
Speaker 1: you go, oh yeah with the UM. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that was a bonus episode Patreon episode. But if
Speaker 1: you want to listen to the episode with the second
Speaker 1: Colin Dickey episode, Um, yeah, we talked about the whole
Speaker 1: Bigfoot c I a Jimmy Stewart connection. I think that
Speaker 1: was when we did a We did a chat for
Speaker 1: Skylight with him, which felt like a podcast because it
Speaker 1: was in uh it was during lockdown, so anytime you
Speaker 1: get on Zoom with him, Mike, it feels like you're
Speaker 1: touring a podcast. But I think I think that was
Speaker 1: for Skylight, but I'm sure that they have that saved
Speaker 1: somewhere to Skylight Books. We did it, Molly and I
Speaker 1: did a chat with Colin Dicky for Skylight of his
Speaker 1: book The Unidentified, which is extremely niccall and highly recommended
Speaker 1: and highly recommended. If we're missing a good Um, all
Speaker 1: the books from the book club are are still out there. Yeah, yeah, consumed,
Speaker 1: but especially that one. Yeah. I definitely get all the
Speaker 1: podcasting and just regular zooming I've been doing mixed up.
Speaker 1: They just totally fixed Mike's to our heads at the beginning,
Speaker 1: it's just coppercorn style and if we're just broadcasting somewhere
Speaker 1: all the time, there's plenty to discover Patrick. So yeah, hopefully,
Speaker 1: hopefully that will say your your desire for crypto chat.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Unidentified, I feel like we should probably
Speaker 1: discuss this freaking monolith that's been popping up all over
Speaker 1: the world, because it popped up when we were off
Speaker 1: last week, and it just feels like such bait for
Speaker 1: us UM and we obviously got a lot of tweets
Speaker 1: and and and people wanted us to talk about this
Speaker 1: UM and it feels a little bit like just weird
Speaker 1: timing that it's again that it's coming out as soon
Speaker 1: as we're we're ending the show. But what do you
Speaker 1: what do you guys think of this monolitht you mean
Speaker 1: these monoliths, these monoliths the yeah, there's three. Didn't want
Speaker 1: when you try disappear and people were saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: it reappeared in Romania, and I think there are three
Speaker 1: separate monoliths. I didn't even know about the third one.
Speaker 1: I have a spoiler on the first one, but spoil away. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like the most boring thing it could be is
Speaker 1: that West World was filming nearby, so people think it
Speaker 1: was a prank by some West World set deck people,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean human hands were clearly involved. It
Speaker 1: did not have the markings of an alien thing where
Speaker 1: you can't tell how it got there at all. They
Speaker 1: were like, this is clearly like somebody drilled here and
Speaker 1: maybe an alien drilled there. Maybe, But I just feel
Speaker 1: like it being a West World thing is is the
Speaker 1: dumbest thing it could be. So yeah, I mean, would
Speaker 1: they still sick that kind of I don't know. I guess.
Speaker 1: Actually we were off the pod too when I got
Speaker 1: really into Stonehenge in the last couple of weeks. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think you talked about Stonehenge something. Maybe that was
Speaker 1: also a bonus episode or just me talking to you
Speaker 1: and being like, yo, we gotta talk about stone. And
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of National Geographic specials on Disney Plus
Speaker 1: that I watched that are about ancient monoliths, uh and
Speaker 1: some of the stuff we've been talking about mounds, ancient
Speaker 1: burial sites, mountain rids and they're all really cool. Um,
Speaker 1: but some of that stuff too, it's like they still
Speaker 1: don't know how it was done, which is why they
Speaker 1: say it's ancient aliens. This. They're just like this was
Speaker 1: made out of aluminum and well and like Well died,
Speaker 1: and then the Romanian one is allegedly more poorly welded. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am like number one would love to believe and
Speaker 1: the like it just being like a glitch in the
Speaker 1: matrix or something, or you know that we're about to enter, uh,
Speaker 1: the next phase of human evolution or whatever because of
Speaker 1: big daddy monolith dropping down on Earth. But yeah, it
Speaker 1: feels as soon as the one popped up, and I
Speaker 1: think if it was just the single one in Utah,
Speaker 1: I think I could be pleasantly mystified by it. But
Speaker 1: I think that it continued to have It's like this
Speaker 1: continuing story that's been picked up. It just feels a
Speaker 1: little orchestrated. It feels like, do you guys remember I
Speaker 1: was really like, this is such an early I mean
Speaker 1: not early early Internet but like middle middle Internet mystery.
Speaker 1: Do you remember this? And this is like an artist
Speaker 1: that exists now. But it was like a YouTube account
Speaker 1: called I am am I Who am I? Do you
Speaker 1: guys remember seeing this song? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, this was
Speaker 1: big on. Oh no they didn't. They were like convinced
Speaker 1: it was Christina Aguilera. But then it was just a
Speaker 1: random person. Yeah, it was just like a random like
Speaker 1: European singer songwriter or something. It was very people thought
Speaker 1: it was Gaga and this was like kind of early
Speaker 1: in Gaga being around. But they were these very kind
Speaker 1: of evocative music videos with um like kind of snippets
Speaker 1: of songs and then some animal which show up somewhere
Speaker 1: in the middle of it. And they would come out
Speaker 1: like every couple of weeks, and I remember whatever job
Speaker 1: I had at the time, we were all super into
Speaker 1: it and like, oh, what's the next one, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: we have another clue. And then it's just like a
Speaker 1: marketing campaign for an artist that I never ended up
Speaker 1: caring about. Really, I still get like press releases for
Speaker 1: I am am I, who am I? Or whatever her
Speaker 1: name is now? Um, but yeah, uh it's it's so
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you get burned one which is
Speaker 1: not even really being burned. It's just like somebody doing
Speaker 1: something interesting, but somebody doing a little project is not.
Speaker 1: You know, it can be fun, but it's not as
Speaker 1: fun as a real monolith from Alien Yes from Alias, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so my son whom I've been tweeting about because he's
Speaker 1: making websites and it's just like can't handle that he's
Speaker 1: that old that he's making websites. But I told him
Speaker 1: about the Monolith, and he he was very certain that
Speaker 1: it was people basically doing I r L. Easter Eggs
Speaker 1: because everyone's been kind of like driven so insane and
Speaker 1: bored by quarantine that he thought it was someone like
Speaker 1: making life more video game like. And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's great. I really want to believe that. But Molly's
Speaker 1: West World thing, like, yeah, that that also sounds reasonable.
Speaker 1: I wish I weren't so cynical. Yeah, and I wish
Speaker 1: I just thought it was Aliens, real monolithe as a treat,
Speaker 1: like come as a treat. Yeah, yeah, No, it reminds
Speaker 1: me of the random nodding that we talked about earlier. Um,
Speaker 1: but if it's a marketing thing, that again, like that
Speaker 1: just makes it less fun. It's also like, if it's
Speaker 1: just a person, do we a random thing just sort
Speaker 1: of a disruptive thing with no purpose, like just in
Speaker 1: an for its own ends. Um, that's also interesting and
Speaker 1: kind of cool, I think, yeah, um, and mysterious because
Speaker 1: you know it doesn't end in commerce. Uh, it makes
Speaker 1: me want to do that because I am so bored
Speaker 1: that I want to I want there to be like
Speaker 1: more to chew on mentally. Uh. And it made me think,
Speaker 1: like what would I put in random places for people
Speaker 1: to think was placed there by aliens? I feel like
Speaker 1: when I was a kid in like playing in the
Speaker 1: woods and around Tacoma, like we would always this is
Speaker 1: like a four Blair witch, but we would always like
Speaker 1: put up scary ominous like stick figures and stuff to
Speaker 1: scare people if you're running around, just to like be like,
Speaker 1: oh my go then and then you know, walk up
Speaker 1: and be like, oh my god, what's that? You know? Wait,
Speaker 1: so are you the dog Man of the woods. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm the original dog man. It's been on the Squawk.
Speaker 1: Tess is going to go looking for the Wolfman and
Speaker 1: just find unifind Yeah, in the woods nanotent. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: that's I guess that's that a analyst, I guess I wish.
Speaker 1: I guess we all wish we could be a little
Speaker 1: more um, we could suspend our disbelief a bit more.
Speaker 1: It's like the ancient aliens thing. It's like it's even
Speaker 1: cooler that human beings did it, And it's dumb that
Speaker 1: we think we're smarter than those human beings in any way. Uh,
Speaker 1: because humans are just like the same level of smart
Speaker 1: all the time in my opinion, Wait, what do you mean,
Speaker 1: just that like people are like, oh, people in the past,
Speaker 1: like they were able to build these things that like
Speaker 1: we can't even build them now. It's like, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: they didn't have all the technology that we have now,
Speaker 1: but they could still have even more other ancient technology
Speaker 1: that we don't know how to do now. So you're saying,
Speaker 1: don't ascribe the magic of the monoliths to aliens because
Speaker 1: humans and or the marketing department of HBO have, you know,
Speaker 1: our ingenious in their own right. They can get it done.
Speaker 1: It's cool. It's just like real stonehenge is cool enough,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. We don't need fake monoliths because
Speaker 1: real monoliths are amazing. Um. And the fact that like
Speaker 1: anything that ancient has been standing that long anywhere is cool. Um.
Speaker 1: This reminds me there's a fake there's a fake stonehenge
Speaker 1: in Washington State that I went to that I've almost
Speaker 1: blocked from my memory because it was yes, somebody thing
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, it's a Mary Hill, Washington. Uh, the
Speaker 1: American Stonehenge. It's like a super weird, wavy gravy town
Speaker 1: and like southern Washington, I believe, kind of close to
Speaker 1: the Oregon border. That's what you're saying. If you need
Speaker 1: to migrate northward because the fires have have pushed everybody out,
Speaker 1: then Mary Hill, Washington is the place to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're saying it's hippie dippy and it has its own stonehenge.
Speaker 1: I am moving there. Yeah, what's the stonehege? Mate? Is
Speaker 1: it like in a way to recreate it? Is it
Speaker 1: made out of like foam or something concrete? Uh, it's
Speaker 1: a I guess some World War One memorial. Um. But
Speaker 1: I recall the vibe and I'm gonna link it here
Speaker 1: so you guys can see. I recall the vibe in
Speaker 1: the town being not like I don't know. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have guessed that it was a World War One memorial
Speaker 1: just because it felt like a very new a g town.
Speaker 1: Um there it is. I was very young when I
Speaker 1: went there, so I don't remember. Yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: people love to put up a monolith in Nebraska. There's
Speaker 1: also Carhinge, which I have always wanted to see, which
Speaker 1: is the stonehenge made out of of old cars. That
Speaker 1: have been spray painted gray. I just love land art.
Speaker 1: Give me land art. Well. The thing about Stonehenge that
Speaker 1: people don't understand is that the stones are so heavy
Speaker 1: that nobody knows how people could have moved them, the individuals,
Speaker 1: because they're not It's not like the Pyramids where there
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a feat of engineering. But like
Speaker 1: people are just like literally like how could anybody have
Speaker 1: picked that up without a huge crane or some kind
Speaker 1: of machinery or something. That's the that's the mystery of Stonehinge. Right.
Speaker 1: One of the things about the Pyramids those that they
Speaker 1: found out that some of the blocks had been cast
Speaker 1: into specific shapes. I believe it was like early car
Speaker 1: create uh, which again just things. They were like, oh,
Speaker 1: we didn't know that they knew how to do that.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, because you're fucking dumb. You're not You're
Speaker 1: not as smart as the ancient Egyptians. We only wish
Speaker 1: we had concrete. Now, all right, monolith sorted verdicts in um.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have any other favorite episodes of the podcast?
Speaker 1: You just talked about that Dan Hernandez episode and some
Speaker 1: of our other cryptic heavy episodes. Oh, I sure, do um.
Speaker 1: One of the we've talked about this again and again
Speaker 1: because it was a really memorable arc was the Woodworker
Speaker 1: slash Murder Board Adventure and that that played out over
Speaker 1: a lot of different episodes because just when we thought
Speaker 1: that the chapter had been closed on the Murder Board,
Speaker 1: it opened back up with a new update. And for
Speaker 1: people who have just recently joined into our podcast, uh,
Speaker 1: we should give you a brief synopsis, which is that
Speaker 1: a man, a woodworker, was UM. He had a commission
Speaker 1: come in to make a Weigi board or a Hui
Speaker 1: jaw board out of a piece of wood that UM
Speaker 1: was supposedly from somehow involved in a murder scene and
Speaker 1: had bloodstains on it, and the commission was canceled because
Speaker 1: the commissioner's mom, I think, was like, oh no, You're
Speaker 1: not gonna get a creepy, haunted piece of wood in
Speaker 1: our house. So the woodworker had nothing, had like no
Speaker 1: idea what to do with this thing, and our listeners
Speaker 1: called in. We got everyone invited it involved in advising
Speaker 1: the woodworker on what to do, and eventually the Murder
Speaker 1: Board ended up at the Paranormal Museum, which is yeah,
Speaker 1: just like an incredible just Kisma of all of our
Speaker 1: interest in us connecting the right people. I love It's
Speaker 1: honestly not just the highlight of our show, like a
Speaker 1: highlight of my life that we were at all involved
Speaker 1: in this. It's a professional achievement honestly for all of us. Definitely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was just like a trade like that. That's like
Speaker 1: once that started getting going and I was just like,
Speaker 1: this is why we were doing this podcast? Yeah exactly. Um,
Speaker 1: that was so Yeah. I never knew what was going
Speaker 1: to happen next with you. I also really loved UM
Speaker 1: when we had carvel on and we talked about like
Speaker 1: food forbidden foods basically like foods that we felt like
Speaker 1: we're unethical to eat. And I think we also talked
Speaker 1: about sea horses in there. But that was when we
Speaker 1: were recording at UM, this little studio. We were a
Speaker 1: different platform, and there was just something funny about the
Speaker 1: studio that we were recording in, Like I just it
Speaker 1: was so just had to be there. It was really small,
Speaker 1: it was really hot in there. That's a whole side podcast,
Speaker 1: the story of our our old studio. It made me
Speaker 1: thinking about like every time we had a guest in there,
Speaker 1: we would all just get like so sweaty and then
Speaker 1: we would just laugh. But the one with the one
Speaker 1: with Carvel I remember because I would be recording in
Speaker 1: New York for that UM and I sometimes it was
Speaker 1: like hard, especially if there was a guest there and
Speaker 1: so I was a lone remote person to like kind
Speaker 1: of you know, get into the rhythm of it. But
Speaker 1: like that Carvel one, I just remember feeling like, oh,
Speaker 1: I was there in the room and I was silly
Speaker 1: vibes with everybody. That was a good one. That was
Speaker 1: a really good one. What about you guys? God, I
Speaker 1: have so many I think like a little I guess
Speaker 1: this is about a year ago. Uh. We did a
Speaker 1: couple of episodes with Tom O'Neill, who wrote Chaos, the
Speaker 1: Charles Manson book UM, which was one of my favorite
Speaker 1: things that we read for this podcast, And both of
Speaker 1: those episodes are great. When is um one was a
Speaker 1: bonus up and then when I was on the main
Speaker 1: feed and he was just like a fascinating guest and
Speaker 1: like just our kind of favorite, like you know, like
Speaker 1: a true journalist who will just like shoot the ship
Speaker 1: about anything um and here. Yeah, and it was a
Speaker 1: fascinating book and he was just like an endless font
Speaker 1: of information. Um, and yeah, he was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite guests for sure. Yeah, he was incredible. Actually he
Speaker 1: talking to Tom, you definitely get the sense that he
Speaker 1: needs his own show totally. Yeah. I just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how he like because that that book
Speaker 1: was such a long term project and he was working
Speaker 1: out forever and ever. I don't know how, like anybody
Speaker 1: keeps something like that to themselves, like of course, like
Speaker 1: once it's out, you just want to talk about it
Speaker 1: endlessly because you've been like sitting on it for decades
Speaker 1: or whatever. That. Yeah, that highly recommended revisiting that one.
Speaker 1: Seems like he had a lot of problems not talking
Speaker 1: to people about the Manson murders for like ten years
Speaker 1: of his life, which I very much understand. Yeah. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: I loved We loved having Darcy Wilder we're talking about. Um.
Speaker 1: I loved having Nicki Mayor and on recently to talk
Speaker 1: about the Vow. Nikki was awesome. Yeah, that was one
Speaker 1: of our best recent episodes, I would say, and also
Speaker 1: did bonus episodes with her too about the Vow. Super fun.
Speaker 1: There is like a good era of like genuine uncut weirdness.
Speaker 1: Courtesy of UM when of her former producers Rachel Jacobs
Speaker 1: at Audio Boom, but she was the one who brought
Speaker 1: to our attention the Plague Mask a s MR, which
Speaker 1: was a guy on YouTube who whispers at you through
Speaker 1: a plague mask and it's this weird, sort of scary
Speaker 1: goth but also a s m R video audio experience UM,
Speaker 1: which just yeah, I felt like true, true dark corners
Speaker 1: of the Internet, and it was very fun to get
Speaker 1: into that with her. That's in an episode called Connecticut,
Speaker 1: Connecticut Muffin in Honeybrain's Court, just to give you a
Speaker 1: vibe of the true data is UM that we were
Speaker 1: working in it. That was great. Yeah, We've had so
Speaker 1: many good guests over the years, Meredith Whittaker. I mean there, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's so many people. Andrew T we had a really
Speaker 1: really like funny, silly episode. I I didn't get to
Speaker 1: be on the episode with Andrew T. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: when I was out, But that was a great episode.
Speaker 1: Love listening to it. Next Incarnation, Emily are not allowed
Speaker 1: to leave leave zone? Yeah, no traveling for you know.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back into the voicemail bag. I
Speaker 1: can't decide if it's a bag or a box. It's
Speaker 1: both and neither. High Night Calls me. I was good
Speaker 1: to hear about the pod coming to an end. It
Speaker 1: really offered something different in my weekly routine and I'm
Speaker 1: so sad to see it go. I was wondering if
Speaker 1: you could send us off with some recommendations on ways
Speaker 1: to begin to start to or try to fill the
Speaker 1: cosmic void left by Night Call fading into the ether.
Speaker 1: Thanks again for so many good years, and I wish
Speaker 1: you all the best. By great question, how do we
Speaker 1: fill our own cosmic void? Well, I mean there are
Speaker 1: some a couple of really obvious to me. Answer is
Speaker 1: one of which is Molly's upcoming pod also from from
Speaker 1: My Heart, which I know you announced on Twitter, Molly.
Speaker 1: But if you want to give a little more of
Speaker 1: a teaser, Oh sure, I am doing a podcast about Hollywood,
Speaker 1: Madam Heidi Flice that I'm super excited about. That is
Speaker 1: my new under the Silver Lake like obsession, a lifelog
Speaker 1: obsession that I'm excited to make a podcast about. Um,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of weird l a history
Speaker 1: and stuff like that too, So definitely if you like
Speaker 1: Nightcall check it out. Um, it'll be out next year.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be great. I wanted to recommend UH Kate
Speaker 1: Wrath podcast UM Hot and Rich, which is a three
Speaker 1: times a week Twitch show on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday
Speaker 1: on Twitch. UM at Hot and Rich, friend of the
Speaker 1: friend of the show specialist UM does. Yeah, she does
Speaker 1: a great celebrity news round up UM talk show that
Speaker 1: I think is just really cool and funny. And UM
Speaker 1: Also Joan Haley Ford, who we had on the show
Speaker 1: UM pretty recently, has does some really great like Twitch
Speaker 1: horror hosting kind of stuff, like Elvira kind of stuff. UM.
Speaker 1: She was doing a show about Fall called Fall Talk
Speaker 1: Fall Chat. UM. But yeah, I think there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people doing cool, weird, interesting stuff. UM. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think a more like straight podcast that I
Speaker 1: listened to UM I Excitations Needed, which is a media
Speaker 1: criticism podcast that is is really good. Well, I would
Speaker 1: say my more recent like listen to them right away. UM.
Speaker 1: Podcasts that I've been listening to recently UM are former
Speaker 1: guests Justin Charity and Micro Peters's podcast Sound Only on
Speaker 1: the Ringer Network, which is UM. It's a pop culture podcast.
Speaker 1: It's a very specific to their interests and away that's
Speaker 1: not exactly the same as ours, but I think is
Speaker 1: similar in spirit where they're like really into some zones
Speaker 1: of pop culture, mostly like anime, hip hop, and uh
Speaker 1: just like internet weirdness. Um, and they're really fun, Like
Speaker 1: their conversations are is really fun and digressive and stuff. Um.
Speaker 1: I am a big fan of that one. I also
Speaker 1: this is just like in the realm of of like
Speaker 1: listening to something and learning something I had no idea about.
Speaker 1: There's a great podcast called Bad Gays. It's on I
Speaker 1: think it's third season. It's like more kind of you
Speaker 1: just are listening to somebody, kind of in the style
Speaker 1: of of Creana Long Worst Podcast and a couple of
Speaker 1: day podcasts like you kind of are just like hearing
Speaker 1: a story. It's a story being told to you about
Speaker 1: different problematic or complicated queer figures in history. And there's
Speaker 1: always something fascinated that that I learned in every episode. Um.
Speaker 1: And they do a really good job with that. The
Speaker 1: host of that, and then on the non podcast side,
Speaker 1: Making Garvey just started a sub stack. Everybody started a
Speaker 1: sub stack, but I think that she's put out one
Speaker 1: issue so far. Um. I feel like it's going to
Speaker 1: have some good spooky vibes, some good like weird Americana vibes.
Speaker 1: That is definitely adjacent to the Night Call state of mind.
Speaker 1: So I would recommend that it's called scary, cool, sad,
Speaker 1: Goodbye and you can hop in now and be an
Speaker 1: early adopter. Those are good racks. UM. I really like
Speaker 1: Creature Feature Pod, which is also on I Heart UM
Speaker 1: Friend of Pod Katie is really fascinating and cool. And
Speaker 1: then in the same vein as that, um, Apologies Friend
Speaker 1: of Pod Alie Ward's podcast. I am sure everyone already
Speaker 1: knows about Apologies because it's way more famous than Night Call,
Speaker 1: But I love Oologies. It's a really cool group of people.
Speaker 1: Their their listenership reminds me of ours in many ways.
Speaker 1: And I know that because I belong to the Facebook
Speaker 1: group and I'm very I actively read all of that. UM.
Speaker 1: I also really love see Jane Marie at sub stack
Speaker 1: dot com. UM, friend of Pod Jane Marie's sub stack
Speaker 1: is really really good. She's just cool. Yeah of her Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: those are my wrack. Her interests often on with our Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's very like no bullshit. You know. She has
Speaker 1: a Friday bargain bin thing, and I don't normally like those,
Speaker 1: but I read every word because I just love how
Speaker 1: she's very frank. It's it's refreshing. I like it. She's
Speaker 1: such a midwestern Er. It's great totally speaking of the Midwest. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm also almost like I need to start a freaking
Speaker 1: sub stack. Everybody. You do, Oh my god, yours? Yeah, yours? Um.
Speaker 1: I think we had a shout out to that in
Speaker 1: a call, so maybe I'm repeating myself. Shout out to
Speaker 1: the weather letter. Yeah, it's a tiny letter. It's it's
Speaker 1: just just a tiny start to test this weather letter.
Speaker 1: If you do. It's just I've been told it's like
Speaker 1: too sad. No, it's no, it can be quite sad.
Speaker 1: The cheers it is. The cheers. Well, that's a huge compliment.
Speaker 1: I can't agree. But thank you. Making away in the
Speaker 1: world today takes over everything you got. I wish we
Speaker 1: could play the Cheers theme song at some point on
Speaker 1: this episode. I think Doug will agree. We're probably allowed
Speaker 1: to sing it. You can sing it. Well. I think
Speaker 1: that is about all we got. It's everything we got. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be really sad to say goodbye to
Speaker 1: night Call. But I also feel like it has been,
Speaker 1: and I hope that our listeners feel this way as well.
Speaker 1: It's been such a like cornucopia of cool ship that
Speaker 1: I never would have spent time thinking about or learning
Speaker 1: about if I hadn't been podcasting with Tess and Molly
Speaker 1: and have this excuse to gather around a microphone every
Speaker 1: week and and get into the weird corners of the world.
Speaker 1: It sounds cooty to say the word inspiration, but it's true,
Speaker 1: like there's no other work because I've been like actually
Speaker 1: inspired by the stuff that we've gotten into, like by
Speaker 1: where my brain goes when we're talking about it, of
Speaker 1: like written things based on stuff that we've talked about.
Speaker 1: It's just it's like what I would want out of
Speaker 1: a partnership like this, a show like this, especially as
Speaker 1: a host, and hopefully as a listener. You got that
Speaker 1: out of it as well. I definitely agree, and I
Speaker 1: think um one of the other things that we we
Speaker 1: don't talk about a lot on the podcast, but we
Speaker 1: when we podcasted together at grant Land, we were employees
Speaker 1: and I'm really I don't want to say I'm proud
Speaker 1: of us, because I already called my weather letter the
Speaker 1: Tears of newsletters. But I am really proud of us,
Speaker 1: yeah too, because it's you know, we're three friends, and
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of how well we've worked together, and
Speaker 1: I you know, I am very I'm so happy that
Speaker 1: we had this experience. It's been so awesome, and I'm
Speaker 1: even more excited to see what Emily and Molly do
Speaker 1: because they really are just incredible people and just very, very,
Speaker 1: the smartest people I know. I'm very proud to have
Speaker 1: worked with you guys h from work. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll always be grateful that Emily asked if we wanted
Speaker 1: to do a podcast at Grantland UM, a show that
Speaker 1: the network originally suggested, calling grant Land w NO. I
Speaker 1: suggested it and it was a joke, and then I
Speaker 1: realized nobody would get the joke. It was supposed to
Speaker 1: be bad. I will take ownership, then became Girls in
Speaker 1: Hoodies and then came back as Night Call. We're obviously
Speaker 1: open to leaving the door open for another iteration in
Speaker 1: the far off future, but at the very least I
Speaker 1: have made Tess and Emily promise that we will do
Speaker 1: on Eagles style raises over reunion concert with Mountains of
Speaker 1: blow Uh. And yeah, I've been thinking a lot about
Speaker 1: like who the different Nightcall uh members are in different bands,
Speaker 1: because I was like, cool, which Eagles are we? I
Speaker 1: feel like, uh, TuS, I think you're Don Henley. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're John Henley, Emily's Glen Frey, and I
Speaker 1: think I'm Joe Walsh. I mean, I'm tempted to agree
Speaker 1: just but that's also because I have a connection to
Speaker 1: uh the End of the Innocence and other John Henley
Speaker 1: Don Henley solo exploits great embarrassing that way. Yeah, Glenn
Speaker 1: Frey is cool. Um. I was talking about how, just
Speaker 1: like every I was watching a Black Pink video and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's so funny how every K
Speaker 1: pop group has a left eye, Like I love that
Speaker 1: about it. Somebody was like, you're obviously the left eye,
Speaker 1: and Emily is t Bos and Tests is Chili, sure thing,
Speaker 1: and I was like that's true. And then yeah, I
Speaker 1: just couldn't stop thinking about like how how the personality
Speaker 1: archetypes go with different bands. I hope that people continue
Speaker 1: to submit their suggestions of who we are in various
Speaker 1: trios or bands forevermore. But just keep in mind that
Speaker 1: we've got a Libra, a virgo and a Capricorn, and
Speaker 1: that really all we're doing is just talking about astrology
Speaker 1: when we talk about who we I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: there's the immutable fact of astrology. You have to take
Speaker 1: the astrology into account. That's how all bands should be formed,
Speaker 1: is around. Uh yes, to look at your charts. Just
Speaker 1: like a spinal tap stone bring it back to stone.
Speaker 1: I was reading about the tiny stonehenge um in Spinal
Speaker 1: tap was inspired by Black Sabbath tried to have a
Speaker 1: stonehenge but it was like too big so they couldn't
Speaker 1: even get it on stage. Uh it's still I will
Speaker 1: still watch the clip of that sometimes and just laugh
Speaker 1: and laugh. It never gets old to me. It's the
Speaker 1: best lowering down tiny stonehenge. Fine holiday fun um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think I remember we we got together
Speaker 1: into an episode of North Mollywood. I feel like like
Speaker 1: in the dark days of January, and we were very
Speaker 1: much and like bunker mindset and like what are we
Speaker 1: gonna do? Like you know, And I think that's sort
Speaker 1: of where I would say the germ of Night Calls
Speaker 1: started from, even though it was about a year until
Speaker 1: we put out our first episode that I think that
Speaker 1: kind of is where we got the gears started turning
Speaker 1: and we're like, Okay, we're gonna bring it back, but
Speaker 1: it's got to be like it's got to be really
Speaker 1: specific around our needs and are and our interests in
Speaker 1: an incredibly weird time, not that there's any unwird time,
Speaker 1: but I think it was just more in our face
Speaker 1: at that moment, and it was all something something we
Speaker 1: all wanted to talk about, the Dystopia of at all
Speaker 1: strange days and lonely nights. We obviously aren't saying that
Speaker 1: the dystopia is in any way over now. Um. I
Speaker 1: hope that nobody took that away from like we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden one, so it's all good, everything is normal now.
Speaker 1: That is absolutely not It's entirely coincidental timing. We're not
Speaker 1: abandoning you for the next phase of the dystopia, which
Speaker 1: will be extremely weird in its own way. Yeah seriously,
Speaker 1: Um no, we're just, uh, we're going to see what
Speaker 1: the next phase looks like and then you know, we
Speaker 1: do you know, throw up the nightcall light and we
Speaker 1: all might come to the rescue like moths. Yes, like
Speaker 1: I was thinking like Batman, but yes, also like like
Speaker 1: moths around the lux or pyramid at exactly. Um, well,
Speaker 1: we want to and the show with a bunch of
Speaker 1: thank you's because there are so many people that we
Speaker 1: couldn't have done this show without, and people who have
Speaker 1: been supporters of the show for a long time or
Speaker 1: short time, any time at all. We appreciate you've all,
Speaker 1: in your own way made the show what it is.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be like play the exit music, like
Speaker 1: where I don't know words show let's uh yeah. So
Speaker 1: first of all, we gotta thank Doug bum, our producer
Speaker 1: who has just who's just been with us for a
Speaker 1: little while but it's just been such a joy to
Speaker 1: work with and has so many ideas and it's been
Speaker 1: honestly like I'm I'm I'm I'm too. I'm very sad
Speaker 1: to stay about it, dog, But thanks duck, Yeah, thank
Speaker 1: you Doug. Doug has really been an amazing person who's
Speaker 1: really gotten our show. Um. We should also definitely think
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien. Uh. He brought us to my heart. He
Speaker 1: was a big fan of girls and hoodies back in
Speaker 1: the day. And sometimes when people say that, you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't think you've actually listened to the show Jack
Speaker 1: totally had and did. Um. We also absolutely love Joel
Speaker 1: Joel Monique. She was phenomenal um and she still has
Speaker 1: shows at I Heart, so you should listen to them
Speaker 1: all and support her because she's awesome. Um. Also say Serrano,
Speaker 1: she has been such a big, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: just a booster of us. He was. He really got
Speaker 1: the word out of about our Patreon early on and
Speaker 1: it's just been so generous with his platform. As they say. Um,
Speaker 1: we love Shay uh thank you. Also love Sophie Lichtman
Speaker 1: at A Heart and Anna has Ni like truly missed
Speaker 1: going to the studio and playing with the dogs. Um.
Speaker 1: It's one thing I miss about the podcast is actually
Speaker 1: getting into a studio and just like fulfilling our dream
Speaker 1: of making it from a weird alleyway in Hollywood yep,
Speaker 1: and taking like so many sodas just stuff in him
Speaker 1: in the purses. Yeah that was maybe just me. Um.
Speaker 1: We also got to thank our other producer, Zack McKeever
Speaker 1: um and our original producer at Audio Boom, Ben Hosley.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Ben the Ben Doucer. Thanks to David
Speaker 1: Sims and Griffin Newman who brought Emily and Audio Boom,
Speaker 1: which is how the show got started. UM, and also
Speaker 1: do our producer Rachel Jacobs, the fabulous Rachel such Schamp.
Speaker 1: We loved her work. It was great. She made the
Speaker 1: night Call Museum and it looked exactly like we would
Speaker 1: have wanted it a look. It was such a great
Speaker 1: treat that she did for us. UM shout out to
Speaker 1: Miles Gray, who, along with Jack O'Brien, made My Heart
Speaker 1: seemed like a really fun place to do this show
Speaker 1: when we were first getting over here. Thank you to you.
Speaker 1: Must remember this is Corina Longworth, a long time friend
Speaker 1: and fan. Two time guests, I believe. Yeah podcasting legend
Speaker 1: featured on the episode of The Simpsons this year at
Speaker 1: a pot as a podcaster. In an amount rushmore of podcasters,
Speaker 1: we were lucky enough to get her on our show.
Speaker 1: So thanks to Karina. Thanks to Ryan Johnson, who was
Speaker 1: a guests at our first ever live event and has
Speaker 1: always been a supporter of the show and also a
Speaker 1: guest on the He was on our contact episode. Yeah
Speaker 1: thanks for our legendary live event and seance at Tay
Speaker 1: which where everyone had to pledge allegiance to Satan. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just as a lark not tempting fade or anything that
Speaker 1: was kind of the original Devil's try tone under the episode.
Speaker 1: We did not bargain for this. Yeah, we've just had
Speaker 1: so many fabulous guests in general. Also Amy Man, who
Speaker 1: was another guest at another live show, uh and was
Speaker 1: so game for it, so much fun. Thanks to my Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks to my friend Emma Cunningham who did table magic.
Speaker 1: But yeah, she was just like the fourth night caller
Speaker 1: at our live shows because she was just like, she
Speaker 1: would do our sound, help with our sounds, she would
Speaker 1: do magic. She was just like, it was so fun
Speaker 1: to think about a time when we could do close
Speaker 1: magic to close magic. More guests, So many guests that
Speaker 1: we have loved. But this is by no means an
Speaker 1: exhaustive list. Uh, but we love all our Jane, Marie,
Speaker 1: Ali ward Um, Tom O'Neill, Colin Dickie, Uh, Carvel wall Is,
Speaker 1: Claire Evans, Brandy Brown o our our butter queen, uh,
Speaker 1: Dan Hernandez, Richard Lawson, who I think I was like,
Speaker 1: was he our first guest? I think really? Yeah? That
Speaker 1: was Yeah. Shout out to Richard Love Richard another great
Speaker 1: Richard Richard rush Field. Um with one of the scary
Speaker 1: who provided us one of our scariest episodes. I would say,
Speaker 1: great ghost story, Andrew t Rachel True, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: The list goes on and on. Chris and Elizabeth can't
Speaker 1: Well another power couple. We had a lot of power
Speaker 1: couples who both guested on our show. Sadie Dupui, Meredith Whittaker,
Speaker 1: Robert Evans, Katie Golden, Jane, Marie Well she deserves again,
Speaker 1: Oh my God, from Garden of Sound. So I gotta
Speaker 1: give it up to Roy. Like, Roy was just so great.
Speaker 1: And I think Roy may have like spoken one or
Speaker 1: two words on an episode of our pot past. Maybe
Speaker 1: he was a total night call guy. He was great.
Speaker 1: He we talked a lot after episodes about stuff we've
Speaker 1: talked about all in the episodes. And I also missed
Speaker 1: just shoot and the ship with Roy after recording an episode.
Speaker 1: I missed that. Um. All of our producers. UM, We've
Speaker 1: been lucky to have some of the greatest producers in
Speaker 1: the world and just like get our show. People who
Speaker 1: get the show and you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: who have had to take rains from other people and
Speaker 1: and really you know, seamlessly made the show feel like
Speaker 1: it was all one thing, um, but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of work behind the scenes that went into that. So
Speaker 1: thank you so much to all of our producers. Yes,
Speaker 1: we also should just say thank you to some of
Speaker 1: our night callers who we've gotten to know, Um, night
Speaker 1: caller Francisco, then Mr Eric Hoffman, John Martin's my kid
Speaker 1: Emmett who talked talked on a podcast one time. Um,
Speaker 1: there are so many of you men like it. We
Speaker 1: just love you guys so much. And everybody who supports
Speaker 1: the Patreon which a lot of people we've already mentioned,
Speaker 1: but also John Flansburg and Robin thrilled to see you
Speaker 1: guys pop up on the list. Oh my god. We
Speaker 1: also have to thank song Finch. Dude song. The most
Speaker 1: disappointed I've ever been in my life, I think is
Speaker 1: that song Finch wasn't like, alright, guys, We're just gonna
Speaker 1: sponsor your whole podcast. You guys be the song Finch
Speaker 1: ambassador song for every episode, like they made us such
Speaker 1: a good song. I still play here just a little.
Speaker 1: I put the link in there. We can oh nice. Um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not often that you get a sponsor
Speaker 1: that makes you want to devote an entire segment of
Speaker 1: your show, too did because that was incredible. I can't
Speaker 1: believe it was like only a year ago. We were
Speaker 1: doing weird stop motion scary eighties puppet movies. Yeah, broke
Speaker 1: barroke eighties Yeah, followed by by weird c g I wow,
Speaker 1: that was a year ago. Oh my god, crazy times.
Speaker 1: Time makes no sense. Time is like the lawnmower man.
Speaker 1: We're back like we never lived. It's so dramatic. Get
Speaker 1: sold to the best, thank god, we thank God doing
Speaker 1: research and she's gonna play the Saton Molly's Love the Valley,
Speaker 1: send you articles, the freaking out. Emily got the remedy
Speaker 1: from a music critic. She could be avocans vocal right.
Speaker 1: We just tell it like it's gonna be will be
Speaker 1: back like we never live. We never never left, we
Speaker 1: never left. You sold it to the best. We thank
Speaker 1: god webbing. Oh my god. So one thing that's funny.
Speaker 1: I mean, it goes on, but you got the chest.
Speaker 1: The funniest part of that song is that it's like
Speaker 1: Emily's gonna one day be like a movie critic because
Speaker 1: I already were the prop that. I was like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: they're just like tell us a little bit about yourself,
Speaker 1: and I was a movie critic at the time. They're like,
Speaker 1: she could be one day if she plays her all right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that I can't think of a better way to
Speaker 1: go out than with with that that tune by the
Speaker 1: Great Rich Low Its song Finch. We'll be back like
Speaker 1: we never left, maybe one day, like we never again.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I can't make you sing the cheer song
Speaker 1: after that. Well, thanks everybody for sharing your strange days
Speaker 1: and lonely nights with us. We've we've loved it more
Speaker 1: than anything, and we're gonna miss everybody. We'll see you
Speaker 1: soon like we never left. Making your way in the
Speaker 1: world today, taking a break from all your worries. Hellot
Speaker 1: get wait wait, so you want to do do do? Do? Do? Do?
Speaker 1: Do you do? You want to be where you can
Speaker 1: see all they say, troubles and people are all the
Speaker 1: same you. You wanted me where everybody do do do
Speaker 1: do Do do do do do? Hey. Um, I'm actually a
Speaker 1: first time caller and also, um ironically a first time listener.
Speaker 1: I followed all of you on Twitter for years and
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed grantline back in the day. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what it was about today was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm going to finally listen to Night call And it
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a gut lunch because the
Speaker 1: end and find out you're ending it. But um, I'm
Speaker 1: just to say that you all are great. Um, I
Speaker 1: love this podcast. I'm excited to get to the backlog
Speaker 1: of all of the episodes that I have in front
Speaker 1: of me now and in your future endeavors. Um, we're
Speaker 1: just weird experience that. But yeah, I'm excited for everything.
Speaker 1: And I've said for you all, so good luck and
Speaker 1: thanks for making such a great show. I'm sorry I
Speaker 1: was so late to it. Uma. Hey, Night callers. This
Speaker 1: is John and Chicago. I called in early on in
Speaker 1: the life of the show with the story about the Hatman,
Speaker 1: which was fun. I just wanted to say thank you
Speaker 1: for the community of weirdos you've cultivated. H really enjoyed
Speaker 1: all three of you as writers and cultural voices since
Speaker 1: the Girls and Hitty days. And well, I'm sad the
Speaker 1: pot is ending. I'm excited to see what each of
Speaker 1: you does next. Take care and be safe listeners. This
Speaker 1: is Jack from Network, longtime listener, first time Night caller.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to thank you guys for creating what
Speaker 1: you created here gave me one of my favorite podcasts.
Speaker 1: I couldn't be a bigger fan of y'all and the
Speaker 1: vibe you created with this show, the world felt more
Speaker 1: mysterious and more interesting after every episode I listened to.
Speaker 1: You guys will be missed, but you created something great.
Speaker 1: I'm proud to have been involved in a small part
Speaker 1: of making some of it, and now I bid you do.
Speaker 1: So excited and so grateful for you guys. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Hi, Nightcall, This is Zach calling
Speaker 1: from me. I was gutted to hear about the pod
Speaker 1: coming to an end. It really offered something different in
Speaker 1: my weekly routine. I'm so sad to see it go.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you could send us off with
Speaker 1: some recommendations on ways to begin to start to or
Speaker 1: try to fill the cosmic void left by Night Call
Speaker 1: fading into the ether. Uh. Thanks again for so many
Speaker 1: good years, and I wish you all the best. By Hey,
Speaker 1: Night Call. It is twelve thirty four and Upstate New
Speaker 1: York and I just finished listening to this week's episode
Speaker 1: and when I heard the announcement at the end, I
Speaker 1: just had to call and say thank you for being
Speaker 1: the best part of my Monday's during our dystopian reality.
Speaker 1: I'm a Patreon subscriber and I would always look forward
Speaker 1: to the mixes and bonus pods and night letters each month.
Speaker 1: Our days are going to be a little bit more
Speaker 1: strange and our nights are going to be a little
Speaker 1: bit more lonely without night Call in our ears. But
Speaker 1: thank you so much for everything you've given up. As
Speaker 1: sad as I am that pod is ending, I will
Speaker 1: be sure to tune in and listen to, or watch
Speaker 1: or read anything the three of you are involved with
Speaker 1: in the future. That's it. I just wanted to say
Speaker 1: thanks and uh saving a spot at the commune by Hi,
Speaker 1: it's Christina. I God, I had so many more night
Speaker 1: calls that like I needed to call you about. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just didn't can get around to it. But anyway,
Speaker 1: like okay, like the time I went on like a
Speaker 1: job interview to the Wax Museum and it was like
Speaker 1: a three hour job interview and then they ghosted me
Speaker 1: and they never called me back. But like then I
Speaker 1: started having dreams that I would get up in the
Speaker 1: morning and go to work at the waxing seum and
Speaker 1: like brush out wigs all day and they were like
Speaker 1: really boring dreams. But it went on for like a year.
Speaker 1: And then oh, also earlier in the summer, UM, they've
Speaker 1: rebuilt the suicide railing on the Golden Gate Bridge and
Speaker 1: they accidentally turned the bridge into like a windharp and
Speaker 1: it started playing the Devil's tri tone in like the
Speaker 1: sky and like the sky was howling, but like no
Speaker 1: one I was talking about it because there was like, um,
Speaker 1: other stuff happening. UM. But anyway, Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: guess while I have you in this brief moment when
Speaker 1: I still have you, what I'm asking it? Um, should
Speaker 1: I sue the wax Museum. I'm like, please be aware
Speaker 1: that I'm going to see them guardless, and I'm also
Speaker 1: suing you for leaving me. No, I'm just kidding. UM.
Speaker 1: I like you, ye hi, and I call Minemes Miles
Speaker 1: Unde l A. I was raised in the valley actually. Um. Anyway, Uh,
Speaker 1: first things first, and super bond to hear the show's ending.
Speaker 1: You guys have been something that I consistently look forward
Speaker 1: to listening to a weekly basis. UM, and I've really
Speaker 1: really enjoyed everything you guys have done on the show.
Speaker 1: You actually are the ones that inspired me to start
Speaker 1: my own podcast. UM, so thanks for that. It's been
Speaker 1: going strong for about two years and I have you
Speaker 1: guys to thank for it. Anyway, I'm wanted the call
Speaker 1: in real quick to UM talk about what Marra Wilson
Speaker 1: said on the show last week. I also was a
Speaker 1: child actor, UM until I was about college age, and
Speaker 1: I really a lot of features that resonated with me,
Speaker 1: um in terms of, you know, the way that children
Speaker 1: and child actors in particular can be very very vulnerable
Speaker 1: without realizing it, and then they hit a certain age
Speaker 1: where you know, um, they they kind of have to
Speaker 1: turn that off in order to continue to exist as
Speaker 1: an adult in the real world. UM. And it really
Speaker 1: kind of fucked me up as an adult because there
Speaker 1: was a period of time where I, uh stopped having
Speaker 1: a motion. Basically I had to really like turn myself
Speaker 1: off completely. UM. And it's taken a lot of years
Speaker 1: of therapy for me to kind of, you know, get
Speaker 1: back to the point where if someone compliments me or
Speaker 1: shows me affection, UH, it doesn't completely send me into
Speaker 1: a tail spin. UM. And Uh, I beat myself up
Speaker 1: for just you know existing basically. Um, it's really a
Speaker 1: problem and I'm working on it. But I think a
Speaker 1: lot of it had to do with the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, I was so open emotionally as a trial
Speaker 1: actor that I kind of had to go one eighty
Speaker 1: in the opposite direction when I got older. Anyway, UM, again,
Speaker 1: thanks for everything, guys, and I really forward to see
Speaker 1: what you come up with next. Take care, high night
Speaker 1: call um. This is my first time calling in. I
Speaker 1: recently actually just discovered the podcast and have been bingeing
Speaker 1: it for the last like two weeks or so. UM. So,
Speaker 1: like obviously super sad that you guys are leaving, but
Speaker 1: I did want to call and tell you, uh my
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, dreamy story that I've been telling to
Speaker 1: anyone who will listen since it happened, um about like
Speaker 1: eight years ago. So I lived in Boston where I
Speaker 1: went to college, and I lived there several years after. Um,
Speaker 1: and so I was up there one summer for the
Speaker 1: entire summer and basically like I got a job working
Speaker 1: for my school and they put us up in student housing.
Speaker 1: So I was like sleeping in this like very creepy
Speaker 1: kind of like super high density dorm that was built
Speaker 1: by someone who also makes prisons. It's called Warren Towers. UM.
Speaker 1: Just totally creepy vibe. UM. But basically, I had this
Speaker 1: dream that night that I was laying down on the
Speaker 1: grass in like a big, big grassy area where a
Speaker 1: bunch of people were tending to their cattle, and they
Speaker 1: were all dressed in what I would imagine would be
Speaker 1: clothing that pilgrims would have worn, UM. And it was
Speaker 1: a beautiful day, like gorgeous summer day, not a cloud
Speaker 1: in the sky. When all of a sudden, just a big, big,
Speaker 1: big black darkness kind of felt over the entire area,
Speaker 1: and everyone was running around screaming crazy like dropping to
Speaker 1: their knees and praying UM. And then I woke up
Speaker 1: and just like kind of started to go about my day.
Speaker 1: So just kind of like for some background, like I
Speaker 1: have really intense dreams to begin with, UM, I also
Speaker 1: have really bad sleep paralysis and has like had a
Speaker 1: number of lucid dreams. So me having like kind of
Speaker 1: really weird intense vivid dreams is and out of the ordinary.
Speaker 1: But something felt very like distinct about this, UM. But anyway,
Speaker 1: like woke up. That's just like creepy dorm that I
Speaker 1: was living in. And I went to like a farmer's
Speaker 1: market slash like food truck sort of thing um with
Speaker 1: a bunch of friends, and we went to a coffee shop,
Speaker 1: sat down to um just like you know, gets some
Speaker 1: water and cool off and everything. And the Boston Glope
Speaker 1: was next to me, like the kind of the remnants
Speaker 1: that someone had kind of rifled through, and I started
Speaker 1: to just kind of flipped through it and then got
Speaker 1: to the section of the newspaper where they have the
Speaker 1: like this day in history where they kind of left
Speaker 1: the same things. Ladies, this is Matthew Wills. Altos just
Speaker 1: wanted to I've actually wanted to call you guys for
Speaker 1: a while, but I'm a lazy procrastinator. Uh. This podcast
Speaker 1: has been really cool. I haven't want to listen to
Speaker 1: every single episode that I plan on doing that, so
Speaker 1: name I just wanted me a few random notes. Uh
Speaker 1: so thirty nine you talked about traumatic movies. Uh, mine
Speaker 1: would probably the robo Cop. I think RoboCop was brought
Speaker 1: up in that episode. I watched it with my mother
Speaker 1: at home because I really wanted to go to see
Speaker 1: RoboCop two in theaters because it's still would call rober
Speaker 1: Coop had a cartoon show and a toy line and
Speaker 1: comic book. Uh it was for kids, which still I
Speaker 1: thought I probably weren't every square word in the book
Speaker 1: watching that movie. Um, and no, the scenes of ultra violence,
Speaker 1: I was cool about my mother's arms avoiding the screen
Speaker 1: and crying obviously. Um, let's see Uh, I don't see
Speaker 1: you guys talks about value the dolls. Um, I read
Speaker 1: the book to watch the movie. Um, I've always felt
Speaker 1: that title. The title has always been cool to me.
Speaker 1: Valid the dolls. I don't know, it's it's evocative for
Speaker 1: some reason. Um. I love your plastic surgery episodes. Uh,
Speaker 1: promoias here. Um, this is stake Fair episode. It was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Um like everybody else. Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make this quick. Um. Yeah, it's been a
Speaker 1: great podcast. Um. Well, because I have to say, I
Speaker 1: can't wait for you know follows you guys since the
Speaker 1: granting all days, And I can't wait to see what
Speaker 1: guts movie next. Uh makes so much with us but
Speaker 1: mm hm