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Speaker 2: On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Need's Dan Patrick
Speaker 2: Show got into a heated discussion with Chris Simms last
Speaker 2: hour talking about inflating footballs, deflating footposts. It's ten years old.
Speaker 2: It was a random topic there. Probably didn't expect to
Speaker 2: dive into that with Chris Simms, but he was with
Speaker 2: the Patriots and spent a year there as a coach,
Speaker 2: and we started joking around socializing with Tom Brady. Did
Speaker 2: Brady invite him out when he took his teammates out
Speaker 2: and he brought up Deflategate And then I wanted to
Speaker 2: know where Chris stood on that, and then he told
Speaker 2: me that, you know, he's basically a get off my lawn.
Speaker 2: It's the rule, don't deflate the footballs. And I said,
Speaker 2: I think it's a silly rule. Should Tom Brady have
Speaker 2: been punished? Yes, he broke a rule and he lied
Speaker 2: about it. More importantly to the commissioner. He lied to
Speaker 2: the commissioner. The rule is the fact that Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: came on the show and said that he over inflated.
Speaker 2: So somebody went out of their way to over inflate
Speaker 2: a football. Remember it was this clandestine way of getting
Speaker 2: the football and breaking into something or trying to do
Speaker 2: it without the officials.
Speaker 3: Not knowing what's going on.
Speaker 2: You had the deflator on the team, which was the
Speaker 2: obvious giveaway.
Speaker 3: Guys, nickname is the deflator.
Speaker 2: And I just think if both quarterbacks decide how they
Speaker 2: want the football, I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 2: But that rule is still in place. But Chris Simms
Speaker 2: and I we went back and forth. March is here,
Speaker 2: the dance is just beginning, and the Big Ten in
Speaker 2: Big East men's basketball tournaments tip off live tomorrow exclusively
Speaker 2: on Peacock. You had a couple of teams that punched
Speaker 2: their ticket, as they like to say, Wafford. It's Wafford College,
Speaker 2: not the University of Wofford, but they beat fu Furman
Speaker 2: and Troy also got in. Four more berths coming up
Speaker 2: tonight the Horizon League, Northeast CIA and the WCC eight
Speaker 2: seven seven three DP show operator Tyler sitting by.
Speaker 3: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: Bruce Pearl, head coach of the Auburn Tigers, will join us.
Speaker 3: Coming up.
Speaker 2: Lewis Riddick from the Mothership. A little bit later on,
Speaker 2: as we continue to discuss some of the hits and
Speaker 2: missus with free agency, the Jets get Justin Field, Seahawks
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, the Commanders acquire Laramie Tunsell, and Josh Pause.
Speaker 2: Sweat goes to the Cardinals. You still have the Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers to the Steelers question mark. And if that's the case,
Speaker 2: then Russell Wilson maybe to the Giants question mark. But
Speaker 2: if the Steelers wanted to keep Russell Wilson, they would
Speaker 2: have already done it, right, But they're holding out hope
Speaker 2: for Aaron Rodgers because Russell Wilson can make you nine
Speaker 2: and eight again. Aaron Rodgers maybe could get you twelve wins,
Speaker 2: eleven wins, maybe a first round playoff win more importantly,
Speaker 2: but still wait for that. Maybe that comes down by
Speaker 2: the end of the day. A Pole question Dylan is
Speaker 2: in for U Seaton. Pritzy is here, the King of Content.
Speaker 2: Marvin is here wearing the T shirt that I got
Speaker 2: in Santa Barbara brought it all the way back. Thought
Speaker 2: about him. I don't know why I did, because he's
Speaker 2: not necessarily a Bulls fan. You're a basketball fan. But
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety one Chicago Bulls championship shirt. If you're
Speaker 2: watching on Peacock, it looks lovely.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I like Paulie and Fritzy. I
Speaker 4: live in the creates.
Speaker 2: Yeah you do, which means you love the history. Correct,
Speaker 2: Yes much, Yes you do, Dylan. Poll question from our
Speaker 2: one and then what are we going to go with
Speaker 2: hoard two?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Dan, our one was next season, the Steelers should go
Speaker 6: with Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. Russell Wilson is taking
Speaker 6: it at about fifty six percent. Wow, I'm inclined to agree.
Speaker 3: Wow. Oh, I would go with Aaron Rodgers. I'd roll
Speaker 3: the dice.
Speaker 2: I would I think he's done that Aaron Rodgers is done. Well,
Speaker 2: if he's done, then Russ is done.
Speaker 6: They're both done.
Speaker 3: It's which one's.
Speaker 2: Less done, less done, done done. I take Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: Russ can get you nine inning.
Speaker 6: Gay, I had neither, as.
Speaker 2: You could, I'd prefer you didn't. Okay, what would neither be?
Speaker 2: They don't have a quarterback? Just yeah, just roll Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 2: What's the poll question for hour two?
Speaker 6: So we got a couple options. Dan going off the
Speaker 6: deflate gate talk. Are you in favor of the rule
Speaker 6: against the fighting the football? Yes or no?
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to go down this
Speaker 3: road today.
Speaker 6: We could do an alternative one. Okay, who is the
Speaker 6: better QB situation? The Seahawks with Darnold, Raiders with Gen
Speaker 6: Smith or Jets with Justin Fields.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it might be just Sam Donald and
Speaker 2: Gino Smith.
Speaker 3: We can do just the two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because one happened. Because the other one happened.
Speaker 2: You know, the Raiders, you know, traded for him. Therefore,
Speaker 2: Seattle it opened up the opportunity to get Sam Darnald.
Speaker 2: All right, eight seven seven three DP. Show a couple
Speaker 2: of basketball highlights. Golden State, Golden State. Here they go
Speaker 2: and they have a home stand here. You know, the
Speaker 2: Lakers have a brutal stretch. They lost to the Nets, right,
Speaker 2: they don't have Lebron and you know, the West is
Speaker 2: so tightly compacted there that if you end up losing
Speaker 2: like five of your next seven, now all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you're looking at play in territory. But with Golden State,
Speaker 2: they're twelve and two since February eighth. They got a
Speaker 2: game coming up. They have Seattle, New York, Denver, Milwaukee,
Speaker 2: and Toronto, so they have home games here and what
Speaker 2: a big advantage. Jimmy Butler has played well and I
Speaker 2: like the Jimmy Butler deal in the short term. I
Speaker 2: don't want him for more than two years, but it
Speaker 2: does give Steph Curry one more shot at maybe competing
Speaker 2: for a championship. Because I ended up talking to Mike
Speaker 2: Dunleavy Senior at the Super Bowl. And the reason why
Speaker 2: I bring this up is his son is the GM
Speaker 2: of the Golden State Warriors, and I said, now I
Speaker 2: can I can say this, but Mike Senior, I said,
Speaker 2: how desperate are they to get somebody at the trade deadline?
Speaker 2: And so we started talking about this. Now he didn't
Speaker 2: say it's off the record, but you know we've spoken
Speaker 2: generalities of.
Speaker 3: You know, can you get KD? Can you get Jimmy Butler?
Speaker 3: Like who fits?
Speaker 2: And so he gave me a little bit of information
Speaker 2: that I'm sure that he gleaned from conversations with his son,
Speaker 2: the former Duke Star. But they got Jimmy Butler. You know,
Speaker 2: they were going for KD. And I think Kd's on
Speaker 2: another team next season, but they wanted Kevin Durant, and
Speaker 2: Durant didn't want to revisit that. I mean, would I
Speaker 2: want to go back and play with Draymond after he
Speaker 2: made life miserable for me while we're winning titles. No,
Speaker 2: you are winning, but it comes at a call like
Speaker 2: they won. But it must have been so bad that
Speaker 2: he wanted out where you go? I'm tired of listening
Speaker 2: to Draymon. Oh okay, Draymon.
Speaker 7: Yeah, PAULI, Losing is miserable. Winning with Jerks is tolerable?
Speaker 5: Is that fair?
Speaker 3: Until it's not? Apparently?
Speaker 2: Because you know, but he won his titles and they
Speaker 2: probably said, all right, I've done what I need to do.
Speaker 3: Now it can go have my own team. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think that was the flaw.
Speaker 2: I get to play with somebody I like in Kyrie
Speaker 2: and let's go to Brooklyn and Okay, it didn't work out.
Speaker 2: But I don't think he wanted to revisit that. Okay,
Speaker 2: got to join Steph to win another title. You just
Speaker 2: don't want to go down that road. I don't think
Speaker 2: he needs to go down that road. But he's going
Speaker 2: to be on another team next season. But Golden State
Speaker 2: is playing. You know, you want to be quiet you
Speaker 2: don't want anything stupid, said by Draymond. You just want
Speaker 2: to play good basketball, get your bench ready, get ready
Speaker 2: for the playoffs, and then there'll be a tough out.
Speaker 3: But you know, the.
Speaker 2: Lakers are in a trickier situation because this is the
Speaker 2: stretch and the schedule. Lebron was publicly criticizing the most
Speaker 2: brutal stretch and their schedule. You know, the rest of
Speaker 2: the season is I think the toughest in the NBA.
Speaker 2: I've been talking about this, maybe too much, but I've
Speaker 2: been talking about Joker some of the numbers here and
Speaker 2: saying that he's not going to win the MVP, but
Speaker 2: he should. And Michael Malone, the Nuggets head coach, had
Speaker 2: this to say about the MVP race.
Speaker 8: Obviously, Shay Gilgos Alexander is a great player, and if
Speaker 8: he wins his first MVP, you know he's deserving of that.
Speaker 8: My thing is this, you know, if you didn't know
Speaker 8: that Nicola won three MVPs, and I've put player A
Speaker 8: and player B on paper, and you had no idea
Speaker 8: that the guy who's averaging a triple double, the guy
Speaker 8: who's top three in the three major statistical categories, things
Speaker 8: that no one's ever done. He wins the MVP ten
Speaker 8: times out of ten, and if you don't think so,
Speaker 8: I think you guys are all fully.
Speaker 3: All right, Michael, don't call me Mike. I agree with him.
Speaker 3: I agree Joker could have four MVPs. He can have five.
Speaker 2: MVPs if you include this year. He's playing at that level.
Speaker 2: But you know, he won three and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's we can't let that happen. Lebron James
Speaker 2: hasn't on an MVP since twenty twelve. He was twenty
Speaker 2: eight years of age. I find that amazing that the
Speaker 2: best player in the game, or at least for during
Speaker 2: that period a good portion of the period, never won
Speaker 2: an MVP. It's he got to the point where, okay,
Speaker 2: he finished second three times, conceivably could have seven MVPs.
Speaker 2: Joker could conceivably have five if you're being fair to
Speaker 2: what you see. We get caught up in okay, best
Speaker 2: player on the best team. Okay, Well, the best player
Speaker 2: on the best team right now is Donovan Mitchell. And
Speaker 2: I haven't heard his name at all, but Shay Gilgis
Speaker 2: is a incredible score.
Speaker 3: But he's not better than Joker. He's not.
Speaker 2: You could ask Shay gilgis he probably, in a true moment,
Speaker 2: say jokers a better player. Jay Gilger is going to
Speaker 2: say I'm a better score but better all around player.
Speaker 2: It's not even close. But that's value, how you interpret
Speaker 2: it value. I loved voting for these awards. I felt
Speaker 2: like it was a privilege and honor, and I had
Speaker 2: to equate what is value. I struggled mightily over Jason
Speaker 2: Kidd and Grant Hill for Rookie of the Year. I
Speaker 2: changed my vote on the last day, the last hour
Speaker 2: that you could send in your bount I went back
Speaker 2: and forth. But you got to have the same people
Speaker 2: watching the same amount of games understanding what's going on.
Speaker 2: There's certain players you have to go out of your
Speaker 2: way to watch, you do because some of the other
Speaker 2: games are always on right in front of us. Then
Speaker 2: we tend to lean towards those players in those teams.
Speaker 2: But if Shay wins it and he's going to good,
Speaker 2: it's good for the league as well. I think another
Speaker 2: young player MVP not in your major market there and
Speaker 2: they've done a wonderful job in building that team.
Speaker 3: So it's going to be a topic.
Speaker 2: It was a topic last year when all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: Joker was going to win. Kendrick Perkins came on and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden had this barnstorming tour to tell
Speaker 2: everybody it should be Joe El Embiid that I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: Kendrick Perkins, you don't know what you're talking about. And
Speaker 2: I still stand by that that Joker was better than
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid. Joe El Embiid, it was his turn, it
Speaker 2: was his time. I'm like, that is silly, but he
Speaker 2: was a great player. Was He'll never be a great
Speaker 2: player again, guess.
Speaker 7: Paul Lebron had a five year stretch aged twenty four
Speaker 7: to twenty eight. He won four out of five MVPs.
Speaker 7: He finished top two for Defensive Player of the Year twice.
Speaker 7: He was top five five years in a row. Oh,
Speaker 7: he never won another MVP after age twenty eight. He's
Speaker 7: finished second place three times, second place to Giannis Harden
Speaker 7: and Durant.
Speaker 3: Lance in Vegas, Hi Lance, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9: Good morning Dan, first time, long time hoping five to
Speaker 9: seven and a half, one hundred and fifty seven. Hey,
Speaker 9: you were you were talking about Josh Sweat, Yeah, and
Speaker 9: names like that, the one that's made me laugh inappropriately
Speaker 9: for years. Is Mark Sweeney, the former Kansas City Royal
Speaker 9: Mark Sweeney.
Speaker 2: We're all twelve, Thank you Lance. Yes, hey, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Mark Sweeney. Uh brings me back to the name game
Speaker 2: when I was in high school and I can't even
Speaker 2: tell you some of the names that I grew up with.
Speaker 3: I win this.
Speaker 2: I win this competition every single time, every single time.
Speaker 3: Yes, paum.
Speaker 7: We were on the road when I first started working
Speaker 7: with you back in like Dayton, and the topic came
Speaker 7: up and I said, I went to school with a
Speaker 7: girl named April Shower. You're like, hold up a second,
Speaker 7: I'm going to tell you something, and you went through them.
Speaker 7: I was like, I still had that reaction.
Speaker 3: When my mom was alive, I would call her.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it'd be all hours of the night because be
Speaker 2: out drinking and people to say, oh I knew somebody,
Speaker 2: and I go hold on here, and I'd get my
Speaker 2: mom on and I'd make her pronounce the name of
Speaker 2: my priest and you would have to look it up
Speaker 2: on YouTube. But because she's she told me, you know
Speaker 2: a long time before she passed away, to not do
Speaker 2: that to our priest at Saint Susannah and so. But
Speaker 2: I would call my mom and say, Mom, what was
Speaker 2: the name of our priest? And she'd go, oh, Danny,
Speaker 2: and then she we'd give you the name and people
Speaker 2: would be like.
Speaker 3: You gotta be kidding me. Nope, not kidding.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll get to more phone calls. We're gonna
Speaker 2: play the Cooper Flag game coming up. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it is, but I'm excited we'll have that. But
Speaker 2: coming up next talk some college basketball. Bruce Pearl, Auburn
Speaker 2: head coach, will join us. Hope you'll join us after
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Speaker 2: DraftKings just sent me the odds to win it all
Speaker 2: in March Madness. It's Duke, followed by Auburn, Florida, Houston,
Speaker 2: and Alabama. He's the head coach of the Auburn Tigers,
Speaker 2: his eleventh year there. He's Bruce Pearl. It was six
Speaker 2: years ago in Minneapolis. I had you in studio, you
Speaker 2: had your team in the final four, and I said
Speaker 2: to Paulie, I'm gonna make Bruce Pearl cry that day,
Speaker 2: And you did shed a teer a light tier, but
Speaker 2: I got you to cry.
Speaker 5: Hi Bruce, Hi, Dan? Who are you?
Speaker 3: I'm great. I'm not going to try to make you
Speaker 3: cry this time.
Speaker 5: You know, of all your great accomplishments over the course
Speaker 5: of your career, I hope my shedding a tier isn't
Speaker 5: one of them.
Speaker 2: It was just a goal to see if I could,
Speaker 2: you know, bring out that emotion. Because you're an emotional guy.
Speaker 2: You say you cry a lot. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've cried the last two games that you lost. You know,
Speaker 2: no offense here the timing of this, but you know,
Speaker 2: when's the last time you cried.
Speaker 5: Let's see, I probably cried after we'd be Kentucky at
Speaker 5: RUP and won the championship. I'd say, I would say probably.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm pretty passionate. You talk about fan only
Speaker 5: talk about the lord, you know, talk about the blood,
Speaker 5: sweat and tears that go into all the things that
Speaker 5: it takes to win a championship. In other words, just
Speaker 5: like putting up with me and my expectations, my accountability,
Speaker 5: my you know, my my temper. I'm grateful, grateful, uh
Speaker 5: and blessed and did not cry after we lost to
Speaker 5: text A and M and Alabama because we've lost four games.
Speaker 5: We've lost to Duke and John Shire at John Shied Duke,
Speaker 5: and we lost to Todd Golden at Florida, and those
Speaker 5: that those had been the only two losses we had
Speaker 5: had for a long time. And and and so for
Speaker 5: a while I could say, like, the only coaches in
Speaker 5: the country that I'm willing to lose to are Jewish
Speaker 5: coaches John Shired, Todd Golden, Like, if you're not Jewish,
Speaker 5: I'm not losing to you. We Jews don't like to
Speaker 5: lose very often, in case you haven't noticed with our
Speaker 5: Israel con. And but then Buzz Williams came in ranked
Speaker 5: you know, fourteenth in the country, and and then of
Speaker 5: course we love to nat oates. And I don't think
Speaker 5: either one of those guys you know, got a temple.
Speaker 2: Uh, Princey, would you check and see if they're the
Speaker 2: other two coaches or Josh?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Okay, So why'd you cry after you lost or one
Speaker 2: at Kentucky at rupp Arena.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think just I guess the motion
Speaker 5: of it all the the the being being, you know,
Speaker 5: really really grateful. Dan. I think what we do as
Speaker 5: we work in this this this ministry, or in this
Speaker 5: thing about coaching, we are we are we are built
Speaker 5: to win and compete for championships. We really truly do.
Speaker 5: And at the end of the day, there was a
Speaker 5: championship that could be one I didn't cry at when
Speaker 5: we beat when we when we won the Maui Invitational.
Speaker 5: You know that that you know, that wasn't that wasn't
Speaker 5: big enough. But I think because the league was so
Speaker 5: good and it was so hard, and every night you
Speaker 5: had to kind of get and and there were a
Speaker 5: lot of upsets. My basketball team did not get upset
Speaker 5: very much at all. Uh And in the sense that
Speaker 5: they beat a lot of people they were supposed to beat.
Speaker 5: And uh, I probably just tried it cried out of gratitude, gratefulness.
Speaker 3: Who's the best player in college basketball this year?
Speaker 5: Well, I think jan I Broom is that it should
Speaker 5: be the college player of the year because of all
Speaker 5: that he's accomplished and and and all that he's able
Speaker 5: to do for our team. Leads us and scoring and
Speaker 5: rebounding and assists and and and and obviously stepped up
Speaker 5: in the biggest games. I think Cooper Flag at Duke
Speaker 5: is going to be if he's not the first player drafted,
Speaker 5: is gonna be one of the top player drafted. And
Speaker 5: and Cooper is an amazing player who plays so hard
Speaker 5: and impacts the game so much. But what Auburn has
Speaker 5: done this year through this league to have sixteen Quad
Speaker 5: one wins has never been done before. That means on
Speaker 5: we we had twenty games against the Corps one. Now,
Speaker 5: when you're playing a quad one game, I don't care
Speaker 5: where you're ranked one through thirty five. Let's say we've
Speaker 5: got a fifty five sixty percent chance of winning that game,
Speaker 5: even if we're one, playing against the team that's twenty
Speaker 5: and win sixteen of those out of twenty is just unprecedented.
Speaker 5: And so therefore I feel like our best player is
Speaker 5: the best player at college basket.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say you're coaching Cooper Flag yep, and you
Speaker 2: want him to come back for another year, but you
Speaker 2: want him to realize he wants to come back for
Speaker 2: another year, not you selfishly as a coach, how would
Speaker 2: you go about trying to convince Cooper Flag to stay
Speaker 2: one more year?
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I would I would only try
Speaker 5: to convince him to do it if I truly felt
Speaker 5: like it was in his best interests, not just in mind.
Speaker 2: And have you seen the Washington Wizards roster, Bruce, Yes,
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 5: Here's here's here's the one the one factor that I
Speaker 5: would ask to consider him. To consider Dan, you know
Speaker 5: that because you've been doing this a long time, it's
Speaker 5: not how much you make, it's how long you can
Speaker 5: make it. That's the truth. And so the question for
Speaker 5: Cooper Flag would be what's the best position for you
Speaker 5: to be in for your second and your third contract?
Speaker 5: And if there can be any discussion about the fact
Speaker 5: that at eighteen or nineteen, when you are in position
Speaker 5: at age twenty one, maybe to have to sign that
Speaker 5: second big contract. You know, there's a difference between being
Speaker 5: rich and being wealthy. People that are wealthy have made
Speaker 5: it for a long time. And so that's the only
Speaker 5: thing I would look at as far as what might
Speaker 5: be in his best interest is would waiting another year
Speaker 5: put him in a better position to sign that second
Speaker 5: and third contract that takes him from being rich to wealthy.
Speaker 2: He's only eighteen, that's right, crazy, crazy, that would be
Speaker 2: the only factor. We're talking to Bruce Pearl, Auburn head coach.
Speaker 2: SEC Conference tournament starts on Friday. We've talked about ofvariety
Speaker 2: of things the NBA has, you know, face of the NBA.
Speaker 2: Could we get the non North America basketball players to
Speaker 2: play against the US based players in the All Star Game?
Speaker 3: Like where do you see?
Speaker 2: You know, the globalization of basketball is the future in
Speaker 2: Europe and other countries more so than it is in
Speaker 2: the United States. If you consider I could probably give
Speaker 2: you seven or eight of the top ten players in
Speaker 2: the game and they're not from the United States.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the game. I think the game is in great
Speaker 5: shape DWN in the sense that worldwide it's really really popular.
Speaker 5: And you're right, some of these international players, European players
Speaker 5: are playing the game better than our guys have. One
Speaker 5: of the factors has been just a skill level that
Speaker 5: they are brought up through a training program that isn't
Speaker 5: like high school, AAU college, so on and so forth.
Speaker 5: At the same time, your interest in our game and
Speaker 5: the college game has never been better. Like the numbers
Speaker 5: that we're pulling for the best. This is a tremendous
Speaker 5: regular season in college basketball, just even just the SEC.
Speaker 5: How many ranked teams against ranked teams and then how
Speaker 5: many of those games delivered Like the last two Saturdays
Speaker 5: in the SEC Alabama Tennessee over time, Auburn Alabama overtime,
Speaker 5: and the ratings are really good. I don't know. I
Speaker 5: read a little bit about what's going on with the
Speaker 5: NBA and what, but I couldn't tell you why. Some
Speaker 5: of those numbers are down, But our numbers have never
Speaker 5: been stronger.
Speaker 2: But the talent level, I mean, they're young, they're you know,
Speaker 2: these guys, I mean jokers, what thirty or somewhere around there.
Speaker 2: But if you put in Giannis, you put in Embid
Speaker 2: and you put in Luca Shay Gilgis, you know, from Canada,
Speaker 2: and maybe we go back to the dream team that
Speaker 2: the Dream Team in ninety two sort of you know,
Speaker 2: birth this, they spawned all of this. I'm just curious,
Speaker 2: does the does US basketball try to model itself after,
Speaker 2: you know, instead of this AAU and we've seen that basketball.
Speaker 2: It can be pretty ugly talented but ugly feels like
Speaker 2: you know what Europe is doing in other countries is
Speaker 2: they get you into a system, learn how to handle
Speaker 2: the ball, learn you know, the fundamental, be a big guy,
Speaker 2: handle the ball on the perimeter, like all of these things.
Speaker 2: It feels like the US is missing out on that opportunity.
Speaker 5: Well, I think there are people that are in the
Speaker 5: professional basketball in world basketball that are studying this very
Speaker 5: factor right now. They're absolutely looking at it. You know.
Speaker 5: The the best explanation I can have for it is
Speaker 5: the age that they have these European kids starting to
Speaker 5: train the specialization into you know, the one particular sport.
Speaker 5: They don't have the same you know, rules as far
Speaker 5: as how many hours you can or can't train, whether
Speaker 5: you're a high school player and you can only practice
Speaker 5: a certain amount of time, and in college so on
Speaker 5: and so forth. You know. I think the other thing too,
Speaker 5: the skill level right now is what is dominating our
Speaker 5: sport in the sense that the men are so big
Speaker 5: and they're so strong, and they're so athletic that now
Speaker 5: we're putting five guys out there on a perimeterive to
Speaker 5: three point line and spreading the floor just so that
Speaker 5: we have some space to be able to drive down
Speaker 5: the lane and make place because nobody, hardly anybody is
Speaker 5: putting a post player on the inside because there's there's
Speaker 5: just no room for him. So side. Sometimes in some ways,
Speaker 5: the size and the athleticism of the American player that
Speaker 5: may have been a dominating force in basketball is now
Speaker 5: no longer as as an important a cog as the
Speaker 5: ability to spread the floor and have the skills to
Speaker 5: be able to shoot and handle, which is more akin
Speaker 5: to the European player.
Speaker 3: Okay, but what would you do with Shack if he
Speaker 3: was your center?
Speaker 5: Oh, I'd find a way. I have. I am Jani
Speaker 5: broom right now, and and and and we're gonna find
Speaker 5: ways to get him inside and and and and and
Speaker 5: and and and run our offense accordingly. So oh no, no,
Speaker 5: you give me Shack. His big ass has got him
Speaker 5: on the block, and good luck. The only way you're
Speaker 5: gonna stop him is to hackershack him.
Speaker 2: Who's the best player you recruited didn't get but the
Speaker 2: best player you you recruited?
Speaker 5: Wow? Well, you know it's interesting. Aj Devansta was somebody
Speaker 5: that the kid, that young man is going to b yu. Uh.
Speaker 5: He grew up in Boston and actually grew up in Brockton,
Speaker 5: which is really a town outside of where I grew up.
Speaker 5: And we got in early on him and and uh,
Speaker 5: guy he's got a great family and and he he
Speaker 5: was one of the highest rated players I think I've
Speaker 5: ever you know, not not gotten. Uh, Anthony Edwards maybe
Speaker 5: in Atlanta would have been another one that that, you know,
Speaker 5: that we worked on but didn't get there. There. There's
Speaker 5: probably a long list of kids I finished second on,
Speaker 5: but those are two probably pretty big names.
Speaker 2: Tom Izzo said, Chris Weber made him cry because he
Speaker 2: thought he was getting Chris Webber and then you lose
Speaker 2: him to Michigan.
Speaker 3: That's painful.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, no, it's that definitely is I remember
Speaker 5: when Tom was an assistant for jud Heathcote and they
Speaker 5: were playing the old Jennison Field House, and so I
Speaker 5: don't know that Michigan State's program was in position when
Speaker 5: Chris Weber was coming out out of Country Day High
Speaker 5: School in Detroit to pick Michigan State over Michigan and
Speaker 5: tom Izzo hadn't quite done what he done now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he still had the magic Johnson era.
Speaker 5: That's great, and that's about I don't want to speak
Speaker 5: to Michigan basketball history Michigan State basketball history, but the
Speaker 5: perception of Michigan's program at that time was much stronger
Speaker 5: than Michigan State.
Speaker 2: When where were you in your career when Burden Magic
Speaker 2: U arrived on the scene in college basketball.
Speaker 5: I was just coming out of high school. I was
Speaker 5: just starting at Boston College for doctor Tom Davis, starting
Speaker 5: to be a manager and work in the industry.
Speaker 3: So you're a lifer. You're a lifer, aren't you.
Speaker 5: I was at BC in nineteen seventy eight before the
Speaker 5: Big East was born. I saw Dave Gavitt get that
Speaker 5: thing started. Doctor Tom Davis in the job he did
Speaker 5: at Boston College goes way under the radar because of
Speaker 5: you know, Louis Carnoseca and John Thompson, really Messamino, you know,
Speaker 5: just Jim Beaheim and Yukon and we were at BC
Speaker 5: kind of doing great in those early early years of
Speaker 5: the Big East. They almost took Holy Cross. Boston College
Speaker 5: had to write a fifty thousand dollars check in the
Speaker 5: athletic director Bill Flint at the time wasn't sure that
Speaker 5: was going to be a good enough investment. Had to
Speaker 5: get a door named Bernie Plansky to write that check.
Speaker 5: Otherwise Holy Cross have been in the Big East and
Speaker 5: now the CC not Boston College.
Speaker 3: Wow, who do you get mistaken for in public.
Speaker 5: Uh sometimes uh loop for Rigno, like the incredible, incredible,
Speaker 5: the Green Monster that back when I when I was
Speaker 5: a little bigger, not anymore. Every now and then Greg
Speaker 5: Brady remember Brady Bunch had the affro, A little bit
Speaker 5: of that, hey hey, and a really good day thirty
Speaker 5: forty years ago.
Speaker 3: Tom Jones, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, if women start throwing their underwear at you at
Speaker 2: an Auburn game, like you know, Tom Jones in concert,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking a little bit of Jeff Garland from curb
Speaker 2: your enthusiasm, like Larry David's good buddy like that, like
Speaker 2: a smaller verb maybe just the face, uh, and and
Speaker 2: your voice you could be you know, Jeff Garland.
Speaker 5: I've gotten a lot, a lot great you know, coaches,
Speaker 5: we do agent Doggie.
Speaker 3: Years, you know, are you okay?
Speaker 2: Coaching seems to be the fun easier part than the
Speaker 2: N I L and the recruiting.
Speaker 3: Is that fair?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Coaching because coaching is still you know, teaching and
Speaker 5: and and and and developing and and and the gym
Speaker 5: and the ball and and uh. Look, I like N
Speaker 5: I L. Dan, because we're way overdue. Thank God for
Speaker 5: n I L. For you for me and and it
Speaker 5: would make this country great. And obviously the numbers that
Speaker 5: these kids are getting right now tells you how late
Speaker 5: the n cua A was. Yeah, recognizing the value of
Speaker 5: these student athletes. Now, listen, there's no right now. There
Speaker 5: there are no rules. There are no regulations. We gotta
Speaker 5: find so we gotta we go. If we're gonna have
Speaker 5: a national champion Dan, then we truly need to be
Speaker 5: playing more by the same rules. They play more by
Speaker 5: the same rules in Major League Baseball, in the NFL
Speaker 5: and the NBA. Right now that we are on college
Speaker 5: and we are trying to figure it out, there needs
Speaker 5: to be bipartisans support in Washington, d C. To try
Speaker 5: to find a way to bring this great college system
Speaker 5: back while we're able to compensate the student athletes, you know,
Speaker 5: wait for what they're worth. But there's got to be
Speaker 5: some guardrails. Senator Ted Cruz has got legislation right now.
Speaker 5: But you know how Washington d C. Is completely dysfunctional,
Speaker 5: and if the Republicans wanted the Democrats vote, we got
Speaker 5: to find a way to bring it to be able
Speaker 5: to have the intercollagiate system what we do and still
Speaker 5: compensate our student athletes, and I think that's the best
Speaker 5: way of doing it. Right now, we're just putting band
Speaker 5: aids on it and we're all trying to navigate it.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you. Congrats on the success. Hopefully
Speaker 2: you don't run into a Jewish head coach of the
Speaker 2: rest of the season. But thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5: Always a pleasure, Dan, and thanks for not making me cry.
Speaker 2: All right, this time, that's Bruce Pearl Friday SEC Tournament.
Speaker 2: They will get underway, opponent to be determined, We'll take
Speaker 2: a break and we'll play the Cooper Flag Game.
Speaker 3: Some phone calls as well. Right after this.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 3: Update the poll results. Dylan in for a Seaton this week.
Speaker 6: Yes, Dan, who now have a letter QB situation the
Speaker 6: Raiders with Gina Smith or Seahawks with Sam Donald Buy
Speaker 6: a hair. Sam Donald is taking.
Speaker 2: So the odds to win March Madness. It's Duke and
Speaker 2: then closely followed by Auburn, Florida, Houston and Alabama. Three
Speaker 2: of those teams out of the SEC SEC has been
Speaker 2: great basketball wire to wire here. Oh, I have some
Speaker 2: over unders here. Davante Adams over under touchdowns with the Rams.
Speaker 3: All start with you six and a half, Marvin.
Speaker 4: Eight and a half blue bloopom.
Speaker 2: Dk Metcalf over under this according to DraftKings touchdown receptions
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, Dylan.
Speaker 3: Five and a half, Todd seven and a half blue
Speaker 3: bloo bloop over under, Miles Garrett sacks for the Cleveland
Speaker 3: Browns Super Bowl contender Cleveland brown m Todd over under
Speaker 3: sacks for Miles Garrett this.
Speaker 4: Paul thirteen and a half, Marvin fifteen and a half.
Speaker 3: Dylan eleven, fourteen and a half, fourteen and a half.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's going to be angry. He's going to be
Speaker 2: angry this year. Ready to go with that. And once again,
Speaker 2: I have more information. I can't share it with you,
Speaker 2: but I'm giving you sort of vagaries on the periphery
Speaker 2: of some of the things that I found out on
Speaker 2: Sunday about this deal.
Speaker 3: But I do think he wanted to leave.
Speaker 2: I think the Cleveland Browns were really steadfast and saying
Speaker 2: we're not going to even entertain offers. And from what
Speaker 2: I was told, unless it was a herschel Walker like
Speaker 2: Hall that the Cowboys got from Minnesota. It wasn't going
Speaker 2: to happen. Therefore, Okay, you're not going to trade me.
Speaker 2: How are you going to compensate me for playing for
Speaker 2: this team. It's not that he thinks they're going to
Speaker 2: be a contender. There's no way you could think that
Speaker 2: you're going to be a super Bowl contender. I do
Speaker 2: think that he did want to play. He wanted to
Speaker 2: go elsewhere. Do I think he was also going to
Speaker 2: get a new deal if he went elsewhere. I do
Speaker 2: he was going to get paid either way. It just
Speaker 2: he's getting paid to play for a worse team.
Speaker 4: Yes, time, but I thought, once you get the bag,
Speaker 4: you may not be quite as motivated. Even though he's
Speaker 4: upset that he's stuck with the Cleveland Browns. So where
Speaker 4: do you wait the two of those?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Did Patrick Mahomes seem motivated when he got the bank
Speaker 2: five hundred million dollar deal? He's a unique show. Hey, O,
Speaker 2: Twani seem like he was motivated when he got the bag.
Speaker 2: I think it's an unfair, you know, blanket we throw
Speaker 2: on over athletes to say you made your money, now
Speaker 2: you don't care I mean, those are two of the
Speaker 2: highest profile guys and they care as much as anybody does.
Speaker 2: Andy and Rhode Island. And then we're gonna play the
Speaker 2: Cooper flag game. Hi, Andy, welcome back. Good morning Dan.
Speaker 5: Dan.
Speaker 12: Ask what's going on Marvin and pritzy Dan? Have you
Speaker 12: ever thought about never really retiring? And I know that
Speaker 12: might be a crazy idea. And the reason I bringing
Speaker 12: up there is because I'll sound tigh of that. You know,
Speaker 12: I'm having a hard time with it because your show
Speaker 12: is a lifestyle to us. We wake up, we tell
Speaker 12: the kids to be quiet from nine to twelve because
Speaker 12: you know, your words was something that a lot of
Speaker 12: people appeal to.
Speaker 2: Wait, well, Andy, do you want me to stay on
Speaker 2: the air so your kids stay quiet?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 12: Absolutely no, No, that's not what I was just saying,
Speaker 12: in the sense when you speak, everyone got to be
Speaker 12: quiet because you know, you can't miss out on what
Speaker 12: Dan is saying. But I was thinking about the idea
Speaker 12: of how about using AI to you know, preserve you
Speaker 12: broadcast and style, you know, a virtual Dan you know
Speaker 12: with us was still with the Dan nets because you know,
Speaker 12: I can't lose the.
Speaker 5: Ambassador of humor.
Speaker 12: Marvin seeing Paulie, like, we need the guys.
Speaker 5: And you know, even if.
Speaker 12: You decide to step away, it's going to be a
Speaker 12: hard voice for anyone to feel because who does it
Speaker 12: better than you did?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: But thank you, Andy, Yeah, thank you. I'll look into AI.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll look into artificial intelligence with my voice, but
Speaker 2: I don't know if we can do a hologram. And
Speaker 2: you know, I did wonder, okay over the weekend, just
Speaker 2: throwing this out there. Did this was brought to my
Speaker 2: attention by my wife and she said, are you are
Speaker 2: you certain you're going to retire, you know, Christmas Eve
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. I said yes, And she said, well,
Speaker 2: you started your career in Atlanta at CNN. Why don't
Speaker 2: you end your career in Atlanta? The Super bowls in
Speaker 2: Atlanta that year. And it's the only time I ever
Speaker 2: gave pause to this, and it was I I was
Speaker 2: speechless when my wife said that, because I did start
Speaker 2: my career, my TV career, my sports career in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: And she said, what if you ended your career in
Speaker 2: Atlanta at the super Bowl? And I said, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'll think about Yeah, paul.
Speaker 7: I've thought about this before, not because of the Atlanta Angle.
Speaker 7: But retiring in the home stretch of the football season
Speaker 7: would have felt a little weird for you. For us,
Speaker 7: I thought that you would extend it two months. Maybe
Speaker 7: not now, but down theroad. You're like, man, it's the
Speaker 7: middle of football season. We're about to go to the playoffs,
Speaker 7: and we're going to stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but usually by that time of the year, I'm
Speaker 2: tired of you guys, yeah, and you're tired of me,
Speaker 2: and it's a good time to just take a break.
Speaker 3: And then not come back.
Speaker 2: But my wife brought that up to me over the weekend.
Speaker 2: We were on a romantic vineyard tour and maybe I
Speaker 2: had too much wine and I'm one of the contract What.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. That's pretty good. Huh.
Speaker 2: Time to play the Cooper Flag Game. I don't know
Speaker 2: if we have music to play the Cooper Flag game.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's kind.
Speaker 2: Of the football theme music, all right, That's what I
Speaker 2: had on day. All right, So Paul, let's play the
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag game.
Speaker 3: Here we go.
Speaker 7: Duke Blue Devils freshman true freshman guard or forward has
Speaker 7: been named both ACC Player of the Year and Rookie
Speaker 7: of the Year. The eighteen year old is the fourth
Speaker 7: player in AC history to win both honors in the
Speaker 7: same season. A freshman winning Player.
Speaker 3: Of the Year. Who who are the other three? Would
Speaker 3: you like hints? How many of them played at Duke?
Speaker 3: All of them? Yeah, Zion correct? Johnny Dawkins, No, Johnny,
Speaker 3: I don't have Johnny Dawkins. Even winning Player of the
Speaker 3: Year Jay Williams, Nope.
Speaker 7: Also a sophomore, yes, Marvin Julia okafor jeel okafor is correct?
Speaker 7: In okay, I'll give you a hint.
Speaker 3: One more. Also, a Duchie.
Speaker 7: I loved him going into the draft and said he
Speaker 7: should be number one overall. So it's somewhat recent history.
Speaker 4: Okay, Oh, no, I thought he was going to be
Speaker 4: a star. Marvin Bagley the.
Speaker 7: Third Marvin Bagley junior, the two thousand and eight Freshman
Speaker 7: of the Year Player of the Year. Here's a couple
Speaker 7: of sophomores who won. David Thompson at NC State seventy
Speaker 7: two to seventy three. He won the next two, by
Speaker 7: the way, as a junior and senior Player of the Year.
Speaker 7: Ralph Sampson won it as a sophomore, junior and senior.
Speaker 2: How about oh, I can't do it right now? I
Speaker 2: have a trivia question for Cooper Flag about Cooper Flag
Speaker 2: that has to do with the draft. But I'm up
Speaker 2: against the break. So that's a tease into the next hour. Well,
Speaker 2: you don't have to wait that long. I mean, you're
Speaker 2: gonna wait maybe seven minutes, and then I'll ask the question,
Speaker 2: and you know what, Marvin will probably come up with
Speaker 2: the answer.
Speaker 3: You live in the crates Man, you do sure?
Speaker 9: Do you do?
Speaker 3: A final hour in this Tuesday