1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: America Trap behind Enemy Lines, Day number forty eight, forty 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: eight alright, hour two Sean Hannedy's show Toll free eight 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: eight hundred and nine for one Sean, You want to 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: be a part of the program. Forty eight days Americans 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: abandoned by Joe Biden behind enemy lines, their families, thousands 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: of Green card holders, people eligible to live in this country, 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: our Afghan allies that we made a solemn vow to 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: that if this day ever came, we'd get him the 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: hell out of there. There they're they're being killed systematically 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: by the Taliban, and yet there's no effort at all. 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's turned the page and they're all patting themselves 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: on the back. It's unconscionable to me. Now it's all 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: got started. We have this situation involving Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Sheller, 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: seventeen year veteran, six tours of duty, one for an 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: entire year, putting his life on the line the country. 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: He sees the abandonment of our fellow Americans. He knows, 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: he fully aware of the risk. Seventeen years, he's three 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: years away from a pension, and he goes on social 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: media and he tells the truth, this can happen. This 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: is not an America that I recognize. And here's what 21 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: he said. People are so upset on social media right now. 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: Is not because the marine on the battlefield let someone down. 23 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: That service member has always rose to the occasion extraordinary things. 24 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: People are upset because their senior leaders let them down, 25 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: and none of them are raising their hands and accepting 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: accountability or saying we messed this up. If an O 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: five battalion commander has the simplest lie fire incident EO 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 1: complaint boom fired. But we have a Secretary of Defense 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 1: that testified to Congress in May that the Afghan National 30 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Security Force who withstand the Taliban advance. We have chairmans 31 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: of Joint chief who the com out is a member 32 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: of that we're supposed to advise on military policy. We 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: have got Marine combatant commander. All of these people are 34 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: supposed to advise. And I'm not saying we've got to 35 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: be in the in Afghanistan forever, but I am saying, 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: did any of you throw your rank on the table 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: and say, hey, it's a bad idea to evacuate Bagram 38 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: Airfield a strategic air burries before we evacuate everyone. Did 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: anyone do that? And when you didn't think to do that, 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: did anyone raised their hand and say we completely mess 41 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: this up. I've got battalion commander friends right now. They're 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: posting similar things, and they're saying, you know, wondering if 43 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: all the lives were lost, and if it was in vain, 44 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: all those all those people that we've lost over the 45 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: last twenty years. And he goes on to say that you, 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: we're all part of the chain. While every link may 47 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: not be tested, the strength of chain is only as 48 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: strong as each link, and you got to be a 49 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: good links something like that. And what I'll say is, 50 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: and from my position, potentially all those people did die 51 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: in vain. If we don't have senior leaders that own 52 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: up and raise their hand and say we did not 53 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: do this well in the end, Without that, we just 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: keep repeating the same mistakes, this amalgamation of the economic 55 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: slash corporate slash political slash higher military ranks are not 56 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: holding up their end of the bargain. I want to 57 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: say this very strongly. I have been fighting for seventeen years. 58 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: I am willing to throw it all away to say 59 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: to my senior leaders, I demand accountability. Well now they 60 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: now they have thrown him in the brig and his 61 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: parents have been unable to contact him. Congressman Looie Gomert, 62 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: our friend from Texas, was able to go yesterday and 63 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: see him. Stu and Kathy Sheller, Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller's 64 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: parents are with us along with Congressmanlois Gomert. Welcome both 65 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: of you back to the program. Let me start with 66 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: you Stu, and you Kathy, and you still have not 67 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to talk to your son. Tell us 68 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: where the case stands now. There is great outrage now 69 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: that has built among the American people since you were 70 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: last on the radio with me and on TV last 71 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: night with us. Well, I will I will tell you, 72 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: thanks to the efforts of Louie Gomert, thanks to at 73 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: least three dozen Congressmen writing in the Commandant, writing the 74 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: Secretary of Navy, it is working America. Clearly, many Americans 75 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: have found their voice and they're standing up and they're 76 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: contacting their congressmen. But I will tell you we are 77 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: not out of the woods. We do not have an agreement. 78 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: We have been told by his legal counsel that it 79 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: be prepared. He could stay in prison for a long 80 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: time and before this is a result. So we are 81 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: leaving Ohio and traveling to North Carolina this weekend. His 82 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: counsel has asked for an open hearing on Tuesday. We 83 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: hope to see our sun. We hope that they can 84 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: negotiate navigate a positive settlement between both the Marine Corps 85 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: and Stewart this weekend. But you know, I gotta tell you, 86 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: I don't trust go Figure, and so we can't let up. 87 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: And I'm still Kathy, and I are still asking Americans 88 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: to keep doing what they're doing because it is working. 89 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: This audience is fully engaged in this with you. I 90 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: can tell you that. And I know there's a lot 91 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: of calls going into Washington. I'll even give out the 92 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: phone number here in a second, so people can call 93 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: their representatives. Why don't you give them the name and 94 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: number of the Secretary of the Navy that helping that 95 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: individual will have to sign off on this agreement. Two 96 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: O two two two four three one two one. Okay, 97 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: that's the number. You call him then and talk. I 98 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: asked people when they do call, be respectful two two 99 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: two two four three one two one, and be respectful 100 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: and say please work to free Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller. 101 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: Your son, Kathy, let me bring you one on this. 102 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: He offered to resign his commission under honorable conditions. According 103 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: to Marine Corps documents, the offer was rejected by Major 104 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 1: General Julian Alfred, the commander of the Marine Corps Training Command, 105 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: and he posted this video in August demanding accountability. Now 106 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: there is no excuse. I've been showing this map on television, 107 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: and we saw the Taliban on the march from South 108 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: Afghanistan all the way up to Cobble. We saw it 109 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: in March, April, May, June, July. They were taken over 110 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: twenty thirty forty fifty sixty percent of the country. Now 111 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: we understand from testimony that the Taliban even offered to 112 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: stay out a Cobble until everyone was evacuated. You can't 113 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: have a big screw up than what they've done here, 114 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: one of the worst foreign policy debacles in the history 115 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: of this country. Your son, speaking out as a patriotic 116 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: American and a Marine and a serviceman, is repulsed by 117 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: abandoning Americans behind enemy lines like this. I think it's 118 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: warranted and justified. He was willing to again resign his commission, 119 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: and now they throw him in the brig and are threatening, 120 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, threatening perhaps to keep him there for a 121 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: period of time. Well, the days were looking dark, but 122 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: things look I have a little bit of hope after 123 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: yesterday's hearing that charges weren't slapt on him right away. 124 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: And I guess we can thank the great state of 125 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: Texas for that. And by the way, we do have 126 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: four grandchildren in Texas, so thank you so much. No, 127 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: it's awful. All he did was asked for accountability. He 128 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: know he broke command, but what our senators did was 129 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: a with broken command as well. And if you're going 130 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: to punish one for breaking command, the others should probably 131 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: be broken or punished for breaking commands. So whatever they 132 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: I feel they have done this hypocrisy there, it's this hypocrisy. 133 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: And he did, he knew, and he had said in 134 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: a subsequent video, I know that I broke command. All 135 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: you had to do was take accountability. It mattered, and 136 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: I would have gotten back in rank and I would 137 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: have submitted. Let's not forget. I would have submitted. He 138 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: asked them, and they said, no, Louis Gomart, you got 139 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: a chance to spend time yesterday were Lieutenant Colonel Stewart Scheller, 140 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: how's he doing well? Yesterday he was doing much better, 141 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: and like Micheller said, he there was hope. Yesterday it 142 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: looked like, you know, there was an agreement they were 143 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: going to allow him to resign instead of having a 144 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: court martial, and that it would be under honorable conditions. 145 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: And today things have changed, as I understand that Major 146 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: General Offered now is saying no deal. He wants to 147 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: nail stew to the wall. I can't help, but wonder, 148 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: do you only have courage to crush people under you, 149 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: or have you stood up to Milly and said, Milly, 150 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: what you did was wrong? Sir? Have those conversations been had? 151 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: I doubt it. I don't think so. I don't think 152 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: Milly would have called the Chinese military and said, hey, 153 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: don't worry about Trump. You know, I'm going around him. 154 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm taking charge, and I'll let you know if he's 155 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: going to do something stupid. Some of us think that's 156 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: quite a crime that he committed. But so where was 157 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: Major General Offered and standing up to the people above 158 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: him as they were what many of us think was 159 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: betraying our country. Did you only crush people that are 160 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: underneath your command, or do you have the courage? Apparently not, 161 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: but the courage that Stu has to say, look, this 162 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: is wrong. And Sean, I've been saying for a long 163 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: time before this horrible thing happened where they just pulled 164 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: out and surrendered. Never lost a battle in Afghanistan and 165 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: yet surrendered to the Taliban. And my concern especially was 166 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: I didn't think we'd leave people behind like these military 167 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: people did, and the president did. But but for those 168 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: like Stu who had fought over there, and if you 169 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: read his Bronze Star award, what he did, he didn't 170 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: as a captain. He didn't just send people out, you know, 171 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: go do this. He was leading them being fired at, 172 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: you know. And that's why he got this medal for 173 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: his courage. This is a guy that will take an 174 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: order and follow the order. But then when he sees 175 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: that commanders are just violating everything he was trained to understand, 176 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: it's it's not good. And I'm quite concerned that we 177 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: have people that served in Afghanistan, Marines, Army, Navy, that 178 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: an air force and they saw their friends die and 179 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: they are suffered from PTSD And I'm quite concerned that 180 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: the way this has been done, they're being triggered. And 181 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: so with people that have struggled, they fought, they're honorably 182 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: courageously that people like offered. Really, this is what you 183 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: want to do. You want to crush them. Why don't 184 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: you pick up your glove and slap them around like 185 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: Patton did. Why don't you just go ahead and do that. 186 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: But somebody like Stu, he stood strong and courageous in 187 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: the face of fire, and he's continuing to do that. 188 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: But he is behind bars. Yesterday afternoon it was looking good. 189 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: Today You've got people that they won't stand up to 190 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: the people above them, so they're coming after Stu. All 191 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: I gotta take a break here. We're going to continue 192 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: more on the other side. We've got Stu and Kathy 193 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: Scheller and Congressman Louie Gomert. Will give them an opportunity 194 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: to ask Louie who was with their son yesterday. They've 195 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: not been able to see their son. A few questions 196 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: when we come back on the other side. As we continue. 197 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: Last night in Kabul, the United States ended twenty years 198 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: of war in Afghanistan, for longest war in American history. 199 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: We completed in one of the biggest airlifts in history. 200 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: With more than one hundred and twenty thousand people evacuated 201 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: to safety. That number is more than double what most 202 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: experts so were possible. No nation, no nation has ever 203 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: done anything like it in all of history. The only 204 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: the United States had the capacity, that will, the ability 205 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: to do it. We did it today. The extraordinary success 206 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: of this mission was due to the incredible skill, bravely 207 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: and selfless courage in the United States military and our 208 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: diplomats and intelligence professionals. Three possibilities here. Either the President 209 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: lied to the American people, or he legitimately cannot remember 210 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: the council of his top military advisors and winding down 211 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: the longest war in American history. Or you have not 212 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: been fully accurate under oath, General Mackenzie, I'll ask you, 213 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: which is it. I want to be very direct. I 214 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: cannot share advice I give the President, and I will 215 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: not do that. I will also tell you, though, that 216 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: it's been my consistent position throughout this earring and the 217 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: earring yesterday that I believe the appropriate level of our 218 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: forces in Afghanistan should have been twenty five hundred. Is 219 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: the war on terror over General Millie. Absolutely, No, General McKenzie, 220 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: the war in terror is not over. In the war 221 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan is not over either. Has the exit from 222 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: Afghanistan made the war more challenging for US? Are less 223 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: challenging with respect to continuing to try and protect the 224 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: homeland and US interest abroad. Senators made it more challenging, 225 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: General Milli great, absolutely. All right. On the other side, 226 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: remember we're going to talk to We're gonna allow Stut 227 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: and Kathy Sheller. Remember their son, Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Sheller 228 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: is in the brig for daring to tell the truth 229 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: about Afghanistan. Anyway, they're gonna have some questions for Congressman 230 00:14:51,360 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Louis Gohmert, who was with their son yesterday driving the 231 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: liberals nuts. John Hannity is back on the radio right now, 232 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: all right, twenty five till the top of the hour, 233 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: continuing our conversation with Stu and Kathy Scheller and Congressman 234 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: Louis Gohmert. As you know, Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Sheller has 235 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: been put in the brig for daring to tell the 236 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: truth about the disaster that is Afghanistan. Now we have 237 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: a lot of congressmen speaking up. Many of you are 238 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: contacting your members of Congress two O two two two 239 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: four three one two one. Please be polite, that's the 240 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: only thing we ask or senator and demanding that he'd 241 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: be released from prison. We got this hearing on Tuesday. 242 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: As lawyers are asking that this hearing be made public, 243 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: Let's see if they allow. That. Doesn't seem like they 244 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: want that. Stu and Kathy, I know that you had 245 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of bed briefed by by Louie Gomert, 246 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: But if you have any questions you want to ask him, 247 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, please do it. This is your son. You're 248 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: worried about Louie. You did emphasize that he's being treated 249 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: well in the brig and he's in good spirits. Yeah. Well, 250 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: they like it because they know everybody that I know 251 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: it serves in the military. They know he told the truth. 252 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: And everybody that I know that served in Afghanistan and Iraq, 253 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: they're disgusted. They find this repulsive. They find this, you know, 254 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: a debacle of monumental proportions. And many that have the 255 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: most severe injuries are asking themselves, what the hell did 256 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: I do this for? And many that lost loved ones 257 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: they are apoplectic that we had full control of this country. 258 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: And this was not Donald Trump's plan. Donald Trump's plan 259 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: was predicated that he would obliterate them like he did 260 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: the Caliphate and Solomoni and Baghdaddy. That he would keep 261 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: Bagram Airbase forever in perpetuity, and that if the Taliban moved, 262 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: if they violated one period, one comma, one dotted I 263 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: or cross tea, they would be they would pay the 264 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: price immediately. And Joe Biden let them march all the 265 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: way up from the South, all the way up through 266 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: Cobble and didn't withdraw our fellow Americans and their families 267 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: and Green card holders and allies and equipment while they 268 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: had full control. There's no excuse for this, Stu, you 269 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: wanted to say, Louis. Louis, I'm going to ask you. 270 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: I have been Kathy and I have been calling for 271 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: Americans to pray. They've been calling them, We've been calling 272 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: them to call their congresspeople to vote in twenty twenty two. 273 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: But if this were your son, and I would ask you, Louis, 274 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: what action are would you be asking Americans to take 275 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: today on Friday, October first? And where should they take 276 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: that action. And I'm the wounded veteran in Omaha, Nebraska, 277 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: or a veteran in Tampa, Florida. What should I do today? Well, ever, 278 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: through the yeah, I would say, let's see what's going 279 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: to happen Tuesday. But let's just have people burn up 280 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: the phone lines to General Alford and to the staff 281 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: judge advocate. His name is not Shelly but Schueler there 282 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: at kemp lea June, and two members of Congress and senators, 283 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: so that they will place a call to these commanders 284 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: and say, hey, you look really bad. It looked like 285 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: you'll crush a guy underneath you, but you won't stand 286 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: up to the people who've lied and help the enemy 287 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: above you. Why don't you just stop looking so bad, 288 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: do the right thing, and let him go. I think 289 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: we would get some action pretty quick if enough people 290 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: burn up the lines and burn up the email line 291 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: send a messages. I think that's what needs to be done. 292 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: But let me also make this point real quick. One 293 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: of the things I've been fighting for. Having been an 294 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: army for four years, I've seen injustice. I've seen justice, 295 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: but man Sean, since I've been in the things that 296 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: were created so that military could have trials in combat 297 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: theaters and cut through a lot of red tape, cut 298 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: through a lot of due process. We're at a place 299 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: now it's so badly abused that most people don't know 300 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: the convening authority who signs the charges sending a guy 301 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: to be trial. Try to the court martial. That's also 302 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: the same guy that picks every one of the jurors 303 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: that will sit on that panel and sit in judgment. 304 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: And the military doesn't require a unanimous verdict in order 305 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: to find somebody guilty and send them to prison for 306 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: the rest of their life. Doesn't have to be unanimous, 307 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: and they can control whether the defense even gets to 308 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: call a single witness in their number of cases. They 309 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: bring them back from Afghanistan trial here in the US 310 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: and they don't allow any of their witnesses to come back, 311 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: and they go, oh, well, no, they can't come back 312 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: there in a combat theater. It has been being accused 313 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: and it's time and I've been pushing for a few 314 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: years now, and I've got Derek Miller on the staff helping. 315 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: But we clean up some of these things that prevent 316 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: our military members from having fair trials, from having due process, 317 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: and it allows somebody like a gutless commander to crush 318 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: people under them because they they are basically the judge 319 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: jury prosecution, and the judges they are evaluated by the 320 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: command and or that sends these things to court. And 321 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: if you're a judge and you want to stay in 322 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: the military, you've got to please the commanding general. If 323 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: you rule some way that takes him off, you're not 324 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: going to get another promotion, and you're not going to 325 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: get another job. You're going to end up out of 326 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: the military. So there are a lot of ways that 327 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: a military commander like General Offered can crush military members 328 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: that are just concerned and they're devoted to their country 329 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: into the United States Marine Corps, and those things have 330 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: to be reformed. They've got to be But for now 331 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: we're dealing with meet. Let me give them the last 332 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: word amount. Yeah, please, just to stew and Cathy, I'll 333 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: let you have the last word here today. And I 334 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: know you guys have to run, but I want to 335 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: give you an opportunity to. I know people can help. 336 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: I know voices help. Giving out this number helps two 337 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: two four two two four three one two And so 338 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm what I'm anything else that we could do in 339 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: the intern to help you. I'm dathy, heartbroke. I don't know. 340 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm just heartbroken. We're both heartbroken and we're sad. It's 341 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: a been a roller coaster. I'm asking every veteran, every 342 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: veterans family, every citizen. Stewart said it best in one 343 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: of his posts or one of his videos. We are 344 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: not that divided, and as divided as they want us 345 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: to think we are. We have had an outpouring from veterans, civilians, republicans, 346 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: democrats from all over the world. Keep it going, Please 347 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: turn it up. You deserve that. He deserves that he 348 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: risked as for all of us, and now we ought 349 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: to protect his right to freedom of expression. And if 350 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: the military doesn't appreciate it, they don't have to keep him. 351 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: He offered to resign, but to put him in the 352 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: brig is beyond repulsive. And he spoke the truth. That's 353 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: the saddest part of this. Are this commander in chief 354 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: let down this entire country by abandoning our fellow Americans. 355 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: And I know the rest of the meeting he's not 356 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: talking a whole hell of a lot about it, but 357 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to stop his Council asked for an 358 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: open hearing on Tuesday. What are the chances of that happening, Well, 359 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: it should happen. You're going to take a guy's liberty 360 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: away with a star chamber where you don't even let 361 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: you the parents are the public know? If they're going 362 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: to have this massive injustice, then somebody there ought to 363 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: have the courage to say, we're going to open this 364 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: up and let the public see. Just want to hide it, Louie, Louie, 365 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: this is not our first rodeo, Louie. They want to 366 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: hide it. They have a hearing and not allow the 367 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: parents of Lieutenant Colonel Seller he You know, we do 368 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: have something called due process and the presumption of innocence, 369 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: or at least the last time I checked, we did, sir. Well, 370 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot less in the military than there used 371 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: to be when I was there, and it's got to 372 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: be corrected. But the only way that's going to happen 373 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: is if people make enough noises. All right, you counter 374 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: pars are with you and everybody listening to this program. 375 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: I ask you to be polite. Call you Congressman, call 376 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: you senators two o two two two four three one 377 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: two one and ask them to speak out on behalf 378 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: of Lieutenant Colonel Stewart Sheller asked that he'd be released 379 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: from the brig that he's now currently confined in allow 380 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: that his parents get to see their child. This guy served, 381 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: all of us, risked his life, six separaturs, won for 382 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: over a year, and all he did was point out 383 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: the truth. That's his that's his crime. Here. Remember the 384 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 1: scene with Jack Nicholas. You can't handle the truth. A 385 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: few good men, they can't handle the truth. Millie admitting 386 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: this week that in fact he told the Chinese, his 387 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: Chinese counterpart, he would tip him off, you know, getting 388 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: loyalty oaths from other top military officials, inserting himself in 389 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: the chain of commander, surping the the constitutional authority of 390 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: a president. God only knows what he would conspired with 391 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosion speaking, spending his time, you know, gossiping about 392 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: his boss as commander in chief, with every Trump hating 393 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: author in America, it's he, it's these are unbelievable times. 394 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: And while we're talking about this, yeah, forty eight days 395 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: America is left behind enemy lines. Each day it gets 396 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: harder to get them out. And on top of that, 397 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: it's thirty one day since Joe Biden's ever mentioned them. 398 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: He's turned the page. Mister Seller, Stu Kathy, thank you, 399 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: Louie Gomert, thank you. We appreciate both of you very much. 400 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. God Bless America. Quick break right back. The 401 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: final hour of the Sean Hannity Show is up next. 402 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: Hang on for Shaun's conservative solutions. Your time's advisers warned 403 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: against with drawing in this timeline. They wanted you to 404 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: keep about TWI. They didn't. It was split. That wasn't true. 405 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: That wasn't true. My assessment was back in the fallow 406 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: twenty and it remained consistent throughout that we should keep 407 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: a steady state of the twenty five hundred and it 408 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: couldn't bounce up to thirty five hundred maybe or something 409 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: like that. So no one, no one told your military 410 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: advisors did not tell you, no, we should just keep 411 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: twenty five hundred troops. It's been a stable situation for 412 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: the last several years. We can do that, we can 413 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: continue to do that. No no one said that to 414 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: me the not can room call Jenner McKenzie. Did you 415 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: receive advice from General Miller in the end of twenty 416 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: and early twenty one related to troop levels in Afghanistan, 417 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: I recomember I did what was that advice? The advice 418 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: his view and my view were essentially the same view, 419 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: and my view was that we needed to maintain about 420 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: twenty five hundred. The extraordinary success of this mission was 421 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: due to the incredible skill, bravely and selfless courage of 422 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: the United States military and our diplomats and tellers is professionals. 423 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: People are so upset on social media right now. Is 424 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: not because the marine on the battlefield let someone down. 425 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: That service member has always rose to the occasion extraordinary things. 426 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: People are upset because their senior leaders let them down, 427 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: and none of them are raising their hands and accepting 428 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: accountability or saying we messed this up. If an O 429 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: five battalion commander has the simplest B fire incident EO 430 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: complaint boom fired. But we have a Secretary of Defense 431 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: that testified to Congress in May that the Afghan National 432 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: Security Force who withstand the Taoban advance. We have Chairman's 433 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: of Joint Chief who the commut is a member of 434 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: that we're supposed to advise on military policy. We have 435 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: at Marine combatant commander all of these people are supposed 436 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: to advise. And I'm not saying we've got to be 437 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: in the an Afghanistan forever, but I am saying, did 438 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: any of you throw your rank on the table and say, hey, 439 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: it's a bad idea to evacuate Bagram Airfield, the strategic 440 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: air burries before we evacuate everyone, Did anyone do that? 441 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: And when you didn't think to do that, anyland raise 442 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: their hand and say we completely mess this up. I've 443 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: got battalion commander of friends right now that are posting 444 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: similar things and they're saying, you know, wondering if all 445 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: the lives were lost, and if it was in vain, 446 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: all those all those people that we've lost over the 447 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: last twenty years. And he goes on to say that 448 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: you we're all part of the chain. While every link 449 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: may not be tested, the strength of chain is only 450 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: as strong as each link, and you gotta be good 451 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 1: links something like that. And what I'll say is, and 452 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: from my position, potentially all those people did die in vain. 453 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: If we don't have senior leaders that own up and 454 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: raise their hand and say we did not do this 455 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: well in the end, Without that, we just keep repeating 456 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: the same mistakes. This amalgamation of the economic slash corporate 457 00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: slash political slash higher military ranks are not holding up 458 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: their end of the bargain. I want to say this 459 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: very strongly. I have been fighting for seventeen years. I 460 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: am willing to throw it all away to say to 461 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: my senior leaders, I demand accountability. Pretty sad what this 462 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: poor family is going through, and I'm hopeful that they 463 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: release Lieutenant Colonel Stewart Sheeller. Your voices are very important 464 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: in all of this. We'll keep you updated regularly.